Arrow being ruined by felishity

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I called this WAY back when Felicity kissed Barry... then went on to fall in love with someone else.

She's like some softcore promiscuous character meant to fight against the "if a key opens many locks, it's a good key, but if a lock is opened by many keys, it's a bad lock" analogy.

Either that, or the writers are 100% incompetent and have been writing her back and forth in some chaos-infused script.

Between the writing and the blatantly failing choreography in recent seasons, Arrow is looking like it's just about finished digging its own grave.

>100% RT score
>Encouragement for CW's Felicity.

She's become a strong independent white woman who don't need a man for his green.

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Why is it that there's always a Hamburger Helper lookalike behind horribly bland, bleeding heart, everything-revolves-around-romance writing?

>>81045884
>Everybody said it was written by a hambeast without knowing what the writer even looked like
>now we know
>It's a hambeast

Toppest of keks!

>>81045884
>her breasts don't fit where they're supposed to

hopefully
just hopefully
felishitty gets her own show
it may be a huge waste
but we'll be free

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JUST

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>>81046970
jesus fucking christ

So many things.
>Felicity is against being bait because Cupid might kill her
So, being bait for Dollmaker 2 seasons ago, that was different?

>Felicity using the very argument viewers have been pointing out for her redundancy on the show
>this is supposed to be a sad excuse she's using to distance them
Yknow, plot holes are sad. But not for the reason they're aiming for.

My god, I can't believe she gave that fucking love speech and got Ollie's hopes up just to fucking leave him entirely. The fucking gall of that.

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>>81046970
I enjoyed Arrow season 1 even though everyone hated it. I remember how hype /co/ was by the end of the season.

I enjoyed season 2. It was great.

I held out hope through the suckery that was season 3; I enjoyed the mountain sword fight and one or two other moments in an otherwise poorly written and choreographed season.

Arrow sucks now. I give up. I wanted it to be good but it's never gonna happen; it's fallen too far.

Hold me /co/. Please

>>81046488

Because all shitty fan fiction writers are fat, ugly girls.

>>81047698
i have to keep watching it only because of how it ties into flash and LoT

its killing me each week

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>>81047713
I feel like I've come too far to stop now; I don't like to leave things unfinished.

I have the same problem with the walking dead.

>>81047713
Do we really have to watch all the shows due to how connected they are?

I mean, it seems like they're going for something similar to how other comics will connect with each other from time to time, but from what I've heard about Arrow, I really do not look forward to watching it just because it ties into Flash.

I haven't checked out LoT but I will eventually. But Arrow is something I really don't wanna go into.

>>81047764
>TWD

jesus how do you keep doing it. that show literally put me to sleep more times than i can count...

why cant Arrow die off so The Following can get its 4th and final season... I NEED TO KNOW HOW IT ENDS!!!!

>>81047776

LoT is great. It's the camp of Flash but x10 because Captain Cold is on the team.

I think this is the first episode of any capeshow (or action show in general for that matter) where I wanted to skip anything but action scenes, and I don't even like most capeshows.

>>81047713
>its killing me each week

It's not so bad for me. But I'm not so invested in it anymore. I mostly only pay half attention when it's on.

It's sort of how I felt about the last couple of years of Supernatural before it got good again. But even at its lowest it was still capable of putting out decent standalone episodes. Arrow on the other hand can't seem to go even 1 episode without a Felicity story.

>>81047788
The Following? The Fox show? It's canceled, bro.

>>81047909
>before it got good again
Fuck you man, don't lie to me. I dropped it halfway through Season 10 because Dean got the shitty CW syndrome bloodlust thing again. Don't lie to me on the internet that somehow it's good.

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THIS ISN'T WHAT I MEANT WHEN I SAID I WANTED A FELICITY REVIVAL CW

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>>81045884
>i just want off this depressing ride already...

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>>81047950
i know but i cant be dealing with not knowing how it ends...

AASPOFKDPOFKDPOSGKPOSDGKPODSGK

>>81047713
I know how you feel.

I've tried looking for sites that would give a summary of each new episode of Arrow so I don't have to watch it and I'm not confused when Arrow is brought up in Flash or LoT.

I don't even enjoy watching it anymore for the over-arcing plot of the season anymore. I forced myself to watch through season 8 of the X-Files because I just wanted to know what happened to Mulder, but in Arrow all the characters I like have either left, died or just been forgotten.

My only hope is that when Arrow is canceled that the writers of Arrow season 3 and up are fired and not moved to Flash, LoT or any new DC shows.

>>81045884
what I can't understand is the constant bitching

you want off the ride? then stop watching this shitshow you faggot

you know why they'll keep going with this crap? because retarded sheep like you will tune in no matter how bad it gets

>>81049454
HOTHEAD
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>>81049454
Don't stop now bro
Take it one step further and call everyone retarded faggot sheep.
Baaaaaaaa

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>>81049454

>>81049454

>retarded sheep like you will tune in no matter how bad it gets
>Implying I watch it on CW
>Implying I stream it from CW
>Implying I stream it

The last episode was the last straw, I am done with the show. Felicity was a bitch throughout the episode and yet again stopped a villain. I was like well the next episode will at least focus on another character, then the promo came out and the villain is a felicity one, plus it's the one that ruined a flash episode. Poochy needs to be stopped, holy God the last episode was bad, I can only imagine how terrible the next will be. Arrow doesn't even fight crime anymore, Felicity just nags the villains down.

>>81049454
I have, I wander into these threads from time to time to see how people are suffering watching "Felicity and her Arrows"

>>81049728
Also I forgot to add that Felicity lied to Oliver while they were living in the suburbs, but that was okay. I know the writer is a hambeast so she has to be a Mary Sue but come on. It has been a bumpy ride /co/ but I am getting off. I know many have already, seeing how a talkback thread wasn't even up an hour after airing. Guess I will see you all in the flash talkbacks

I'm actually glad that Felicity is getting a more and more important role on Arrow. That way, she will never be part of the main cast of a new LoT season. I dropped Arrow, so I don't care how bad it gets, its only job now is to seal Felicity away so she will never infest LoT.

>>81045884
>Felicity is the self insert of a monstrous ham planet
I didn't need my sides anyways. This is so perfect.

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>>81046970

so i havent watched since the middle of season 3, how bad has Felicity become? she was already getting pretty bad before I quit.

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Everyone loves Felicity. Your tears are delicious.

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>>81045884
At this point, I just watch them so I can just be upset.

>>81050238
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE DAISY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

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>>81050280
And I'm with Felicity now.

>>81050450
waifu status = dropped

>>81045884
She's still better than fucking laural, jesus christ when can we get her sister back?

>>81050472
>>81050450
>>81050280
>>81050238
Daisy is here seen transferring all her cuntyness into felicity. It's how she managed to become the best girl in her show at the same time felicity became the worst.

She's the next Stan Lee.

>>81049936
took over palmer tech because ray died
ray wasn't really dead, but let felicity keep it because he doesn't want the company he dedicated his life to, and conveniently frees him up for legends
oliver found out he has a son, the mother will only let ollie be part of his life if he keeps it secret, because ollie's life is a shit show of disasters.
felicity bitched ollie out because he didn't immediately break his promise to the mother of his child.
there's other little details like them constantly fawning over how super cool and awesome and amazing and smart and strong and pretty felicity is

>>81046835
Nah that's where they're supposed to be it just doesn't flatter her at all. If they were supposed to be in the top bit her tits would be on the same level as her shoulders.

Laurel as never that bad all her actions made sense the first 2 seasons i will never get the hateboner for her.

You guys seem pretty upset about this show that you refuse to stop watching even though you hate it.

>>81047972
Not him, but I think season 11 is close to season 8 good.

>>81047972
Yesterday's episode was legit good. Don't get me wrong. It's been hit and miss since they introduced Metatron, but even at it's worst, it's still been watchable.

I'm also going to have to disagree on the bloodlust thing. Sure, it's overused, but Supernatural, at least, did it right and had the balls to have Dean massacre an entire family line, kids and all. Arrow, on the other hand, gets hung up on Thea going postal on borderline pedo creepers and legit bad guys; which is why its take on "Bloodlust" sucks. That's not bloodlust. Dean going into a killing frenzy IS.

>>81050849
Tom, c'mon.

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>>81050539
It finally makes sense.

>>81051018
I know. If I told you in 2014 that Felicity would become worse than Skye, and that Skye would become a company woman ready to do her job even when she doesn't agree with it, and leaving her personal views of most matters to AFTER the mission, you'd kick me in the nuts. And rightfully so.

But here we are, in DC's week, where SHIELD was actually better than the Flash, and Marvel's entire live action universe was *momentarily* all better than DC's. Dark days, my friend.

>>81050755
The shirt's stem line is supposed to fall under her breasts natural,That's how empire waist works. That shirt is too little for her. Its sitting on top were its not supposed to.

>>81050849
Like it's not fun to look at a trainwreck. Shit's best comedy on air, yo.

It's an exercise as to how much of a cunt can they make her each episode, and I've accepted that and have been laughing since April last year.

Either it keeps digging and getting better at being a comedy, or they get competent writers and we'll have to watch them backflip like mad to make it watchable again.

It's going to either be the biggest catharsis when they kill her, or the biggest blunder since Dexter if they drop it even further. It's still entertaining.

>>81051166
That's a tit curtain, man. They wrap arount the tits and hang. In her case, it rests on her stomach instead of hanging. Not flaterring to anyone that doesn't have reasonably big tits and a flat chest, but then again, nothing short of a salad would be on her.

>>81047713

Just give up and hop on the Marvel Netflix train, where at the very least the future is still bright and promising.

>>81050539
Then what explains the thickness? Absorbing bestness?

I blindly hoped my favorite show from 2014 would pick itself up out of this slump, while a bunch shit gargling fucks wrote the new scripts and had it edited on fanfiction.org to end up having a plot not dissimilar from the work i expect written from an 8 year old with a maggot infested head wound.
I sat on my thumbs hoping it would be okay because I genuinely think the lead actor is a pretty cool guy but it's too late for that shit now. If the a sinking ship has a good captain of course he's going to go down with the shit-storm equivalent of the titanic in TV series form. Before season 4 dropped, I could forgive it, because beforehand only 1/3 of the show was bad. But now 1/3 has turned into 50% and there are some absolute dog shit season 1 episodes so it is no longer even a pass to me anymore.
Maybe if i gained half my weight in pure unadulterated body fat, chucked on my sisters clothing and made myself a tumblr account, I would understand this neo-arrow shipping fanbase better.
My final hope and prayer for this show is that Arrow is actually more philosophical than we give it credit and that it is actually a study of what the capeshit genre is becoming to the population who never read comics.
"Capeshit it's the soap opera teenage males can enjoy."
Seriously fuck Guggenheim, fuck Wendy Mericle, fuck Speed Weed, Nolan and fuck that fat fucking hambeast who's script writing portfolio is probably her own Twilight fanfiction her greased up, rom-com loving brain shit out and hoped would get her the 50 Shades of Gray experience. I have a lot of spare time these days but i would rather spend my time watching story-line porn than watch this show anymore. At least a porn storyline has a foreseeable fucking end and better acting. There are only 2 characters in the whole show that don't get a Cleveland steamer on their head and that's because they never do anything in these episodes

There are so many flavors in the world I can choose from /co/ and today I choose salty.

It genuinely feels like a parody now.

Like someone really sexist is mocking female writing with it.

>>81051267
Yeah, it was more of a trade than a straight absorption.

Unreasonably pretty and fashionable girl hacker trope as the key element to the team.

It's just so fucking weird how SHIELD manage to write themselves out of that organically. It took half a season of her training and getting her ass beat, and then another of her learning her inhumie powers, but they managed to pull it off. They even gave her mother and father a purpose and a reason to explain her development. What does Felicity's mother ever done for the show? Even her father is just another villain du jour.

>>81047909
Supernatural has some GOAT filler episodes.
>dat black and white classic monster movie one

>>81051528
Better yet, it has no fucking love triangles and little to no relationship drama, which is why it's still entertaining in an environment otherwise saturated with the CW drama formula. It's long since jumped the shark, but it's never really hit rock bottom.

>>81047776
>>81047713
I've never watched Arrow except the Flash crossover episodes. I just come to these threads because i love everyone's suffering. It's pretty easy to figure out what's going on so I don't feel pressured to watch the full series either.

>>81050238
>>81050280
>>81050450
>>81050472
>>81050539
>>81051018
>>81051267
>>81051267
>>81051415
>>81051415

Daisy a best.

>tfw Skye and Ward were the worst characters on AoS, and the writers were pushing that SkyeWard shit as bad as Olicity.

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>>81052109
Shit, I forgot the pic.

>>81047713
I have dropped all of them. It's all shit. I can't go on anymore. Back then rules were clear: it's not good, but it's fun. It's simply not fun anymore.

>>81052161
Flash is still fun. It was never good, but it was always fun.

The CW is starting to try too hard and repeating itself. In a couple of seasons it'll be a self-made meme fest like archer. LoT is already them trying to cash in on Flash's success by making it a reference factory.

And I mean meme as in repeated in-jokes and self-references to when the show had original stuff.

>>81052121
>dat booty
Why do Marvel have the best waifus?

>>81047713
I was like you until a couple of episodes ago I was cooking dinner and had it on in the background and realized the episode was over and I had only seen about 5 minutes of it in total and that I didn't want to rewatch it on Hulu the next day so I just dropped it, it wasn't even fun to hate watch because of how good it used to be, now my Wednesdays feel much better without all of that dissapointment

>>81051267
The only thing Felicity had on Skye was the ass.
>>81052121
Not anymore. So yeah, it's confirmed.

>>81051528

Fuck yeah I loved that one.

They've also made whole arcs that involve taking the piss out of the shittiest parts of their fangirl base

It is weird how the tables have turned. Agents of Shit and Gotham used to be mediocre at best, and Arrow and Flash were GOAT. Now Gotham has been great this season, AoS is still shit, but slightly better than season 2. Thanks to Poochy Arrow is complete dogshit. Flash dropped a bit in quality this season, mainly due to LoT setup and terrible Jay, however, it is still enjoyable comic book fun.

Its like korra all over again. Youre all sheep suckered in by the hype and hope

>>81052469
AoS this week was pretty poignant, man. It's been at Flash level for a while (although I admit I'm not the biggest Flash fan, it's gotten so repetitive in the episode-to-episode plot).

For Gotham I wait for Netflix, so I don't know. Last season was crap but got way better at the end.

>>81046914
She'll still be in Arrow

>>81046970
I knew this was happening when Thea was spouting ship names.

What made me drop Arrow was the arrival of Daredevil, which is by all means a better show.

>>81052556
I agree AoS is miles better than Arrow now. Once you get over the fact that the show isn't really about a large government organization fighting Hydra, but the remnants of said organization trying to rebuild and hold on. All this while battling the inhuman threat, and the last vestiges of Hydra.

Last episode would have been better if I did not know about the Bobbi and Hunter spinoff. Also the shadowforce guy was pretty neat, too bad they killed him.

>>81052714
I don't think that Arrow is in contention of being better than anything.

Unless you count it as parody.

>>81052668
Speaking of DD, it's so jarring to go from watching Daredevil's action, then see action scenes in this episode.
I never thought Arrow's fight scenes are as good as /co/ says, but maybe it's just contrast or maybe they really got worse.

>>81052788
There's a huge drop from the pilot to S1, another from S1 to S2 (slight) and an even bigger one from S2 to S3. Now it's just powerranger rubber-flailing until they get hit, and capoeira-style dodge before the hit is even beginning to be choreographed.

>>81052788
It's a combination of contrast and getting worse.

>>81052788
The first 2 seasons had decent fight scenes and for a network show were well choreographed, let alone for the CW. Problem is Flash came out, cutting the budget of Arrow a bit, all the good writers also left for Flash, and since Felicity doesn't fight there is no real reason to have good fight scenes anymore. Felicity can just nag villains into submission.

>>81047764
Eh, TWD at least feels like it's building up to some decent shit with the Saviors and Negan finally being introduced this season.

Arrow's just sort of floundering about at this point.

>>81053079
To highlight this here are the fight scenes from the first 2 seasons. Quality is meh on the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM9FBkIUyoI

>>81053079
>>81053145
By comparison, so many of Arrow's fight scenes in S3 and S4 just end up looking like a dozen people standing in a room hitting each other with sticks.

Even in the cases where the choreography isn't shit, it's rarely filmed well

>>81053079
Dude, Arrow's fight scenes always sucked. The editing was better, but the choreography has been pure shit since they decided on the kid-friendly "nonlethal" approach. There's really ZERO suspense in fistfights where no one can get hurt.

>>81052788
Speaking of DD and fight scenes, did the fight quality drop in season 2. Like there were scenes were people were selling hits a tad bit too early and scenes where it just didn't look/feel like the hits were connecting.

I remember in the flashback scene with Matt's dads murder the punches looked extremely fake.

>>81053208
I disliked the ninja ones. I've seen so much power ranger style fake kung-fu in other shows like Arrow, it's fucking boring no matter how well it's done.

>>81053208
Yeah, it was generally the same as S1 but with a couple more screw-ups. I think it was the sound guy that wasn't up to par (S1 had a lot of non-connecting punches that the sound covered for). That and Charlie Cox is afraid of hurting the actors. With the stunt doubles he doesn't mind as much.

>>81053297
They are a bit boring, but there's really no way around it. At least they stay down hurt and get up to attack, they don't flail in the air waiting like PR/current Arrow.

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>MFW This week's episode
>Those aggressive remarks
>Felicity stops the villain
>Diggle being a retard
>Sad excuse of a courtroom scene

How many more episodes of this trainwreck? Can't they just tell us who the fuck is in the grave already? At least Sara's murder mystery was done in less episodes (forgive me, Season 3 was a blur)

>>81053379
>Can't they just tell us who the fuck is in the grave already?
What do you mean? It's Lance. HE no longer has a job or leverage against Dhark.

The only other character would be Laurel, but then she'd take the spotlight from felicity, and this way there's felicity's mom to be sad so Felicity can blame ollie.

>>81053503
God is dead

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>>81053503
So this is what hell is like?

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>>81053503
>>81046970

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>>81053503
>>81046970

>>81052109
>and the writers were pushing that SkyeWard shit as bad as Olicity.
One of the very reasons i dropped AoS. So what ever came of that? Are they still into each other?

>>81053614
he turned out to be hydra and skye hates him forever.

>>81053614
Well, he's HYDRA and tried to kill the two scientists so she's over him

>>81053614
She's with ElectroWard now

>>81046970

Jesus Christ, just slit my throat in my sleep already.

>>81053637
>>81053653
>>81053667
>Ward is Hydra

hahaha really? well that's a good twist i guess.

>>81053843
Cupid a cute. A CUTE!

>>81053872
>my feet hurt
>remember when I was the star of this show?
>where are the turtles?
>Tommy ;_;

>>81053872
Someone should shop a falcon punch or a infinite mass punch into that.

>>81053872
>Nah, nah, I think it should actually be called the Felicity show

>>81053815
>the groom has an MBA and a B.Sc

Bwahahahaha

>>81053815
>The groom has an MBA from Starling Univeristy and a B.Sc in astrophysics from Star City University
What? Since when?

>>81053900
I really wish TMNT sank this show.

>>81051873
I like to look at it the way Chuck did in that one episode with the fans of the book.
>It's not really jumping the shark if you never come back down.
>>81052458
>that episode where they go to the real world and take the place of the actors that play them
>the high school musical episode
I know a lot of people hate the latter one, but the lesbians playing Dean and Cass are my fetish.

>>81053937
In astrophysics too

>>81053815
>>81053815
>Mr.Chris LastName
>Mr. William LastName
>The bride's parents

I know those aren't meant to be read, but come on

>>81053815
>Alfred LastName, Cousin-in-law of the groom
>Chris and William LastName
A show about the LastName's would be better.

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>>81054043
>not knowing about the L'Astnames

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>>81053872

>>81054136
saved

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>>81053543
>God is dead
I am your God now!

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>>81053872
Go nuts

>>81054179
She totally would take Shado's hood without asking and paint it pink because she wants to, and Oliver wouldn't say a word about it because he's not allowed to have his own thoughts anymore.

>>81053614
She put several bullets in him after he flipped over to hydra. Let's just say that gave him the hint to move on. He then had a thing with a version of madam masque,then May tricked him into killing her (he really hated May after that).And now there is a not goa'uld using his dead body as a meat puppet after Coulson crushed his chest with a cyborg arm for killing Coulson's new spy gf .
So yeah AoS has slightly more violent relationship conclusions.

>>81054492
With Inhumans and the possibility of magic (with Druid if he's around next season), AoS will be the first to join espionage, tech, aliens AND magic in one show. Neat.

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>>81054492
It...doesn't sound all that bad quite honestly. Might pick it up again.

>>81047713
I just found the talkback threads hilarious. That fucking running commentary on where felicity was every scene.

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>>81046970
I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING OH GOD PLEASE STOP

>>81047713
>i have to keep watching it
You really don't

>>81053822

Not him but you should count your stars to not have heard about it until now.

Ward is pretty cool after his turn and what they're saying is true. Pretty much everyone in shield hates him now for his bullshit. Fitz still hasn't completely gotten over his attempted murder.

>>81054618
This should be all of season 5. Like, every episode.

>>81054605
Didn't X-files do that already?

>>81054758

Like it has been mentioned, some of us just can't drop a show so easily. N2deep

>>81054865
I just keep watching in the hopes that maybe it will return to what it once was. I'm optimistic like that.

>>81054865
I get it. I stuck it out with Dexter, but I'm not making that mistake again.

>>81054805
Never watched it. It had advanced technology? As in, robot arms and stuff?

>>81054904

I'm just here for the ride nowadays until the bitter end. Seeing who might show up in live action or whatever but I am no longer emotionally invested into this show like I once was. I'm just lying in the dirt with this dead show

>>81054904
Irony here is that because you keep watching it, it won't change or get better.

>>81055045
The government was reverse engineering alien tech in secret.

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>>81045884
That is a VERY ugly woman.

Im trying to think of a situation in which Felicity does something so rage inducing that /co/ just goes nuclear. Like one big fuck you from the writers. Whats that scenario for you?

>>81055097
I think its more the unflattering pose and awful greasy hair

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>>81047713
>>81047764
This is why you play vidya games while you sort of watch these two. Playing Wind Waker right now and I sort of half watch it while I'm at sea.

I get the gist of it while not absorbing too much shit.

>>81055138
She made Ollie losing his son all about her, I dunno if it gets worse outside of murder.

>>81055138
>She actually dies in the season finale
>the next and last season is every character mourning her as even the villains come to pay respects

>>81055138
>I HAD TO BECOME SOMEONE ELSE, I HAD TO BECOME SOMETHING ELSE
>I HAD TO BECOME, THE GREEN ARROW
And then it cuts to Felicity putting on the hood

>>81055138
>bad guy shows up at the base (if that's still a thing)
>is beating the fuck out of Oliver
>Felicity picks up the bow and kils him
>With blood seeping out of his mouth Oliver crawls to her and apoligizes for everything he's done

>>81055183
That would require them having their pet actually kill someone though. More likely she hit the bad guy and miraculously didn't kill him despite hitting him in the heart.

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>>81055147
Whatever the reason, she should NOT do that again.

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>>81055008
That makes me wonder who's worse: Hannah or Felicity?
Also
>tfw have a pretty unique by the show's standards' villain who's charismatic and menacing as hell
>have him die by the hands of a shitty minor character and shill the Dexter/Hannah relationship before kicking the bucket
It's been years and I'm still mad.

>>81055221
>>81055183
>villain survives
>as he is passing out he catches a glimpse of her and falls in love with felicity
>As he tries to reform to deserve such a radiant creature's love, Felicity realizes she has powers from the blast that made the flash, and can make anyone fall in love with her by shooting them with an arrow
>Now everyone has to love felicity

Well you guys dont have to wait too long for more field Felicity, because she going to take over as Black Canary once Laurel bites it

>>81045884
Why, what's going on? Someone spoonfeed me pls, last thing I remember watching was the archer guy being cast from the mountain or whatever.

>>81055138
Ganking the T-Shperes and becoming Ms. Terrific, while Curtis becomes Overwatch-Beta (Felicity would still also be Overwatch-Alpha.)

As someone who is currently watching Arrow 2nd season, can someone tell me why everyone hates her? She doesn't seem too bad right now.

>>81055138
>Legends of Tomorrow season two
>Felicity's been possesed by some kind of, Dark Side!
>We have to track down the pieces of something called a Mother Box before she does!

>Final episode
>Constantine lies dead on the ground after Felicity snaps his neck, after he confesses his love for her
>"Fight it Felicity! You're stronger than it, you're stronger than all of us!"
We see inside of her mind, she breaks her chains and stands up to an ominous figure
>say "you messed with the wrong girl!" as she slaps him
>I have underestimated you Felicity Smoak, there is a great power in you. But know that I shall return one day to make you my bride; The Bride of Darkseid!"

>>81055453
At that point, she was still a secondary character.
By now, she too many things revolve around her

>>81055453
Leave now while you can

>>81055487
I just threw up in my mouth a little

>>81055067
Nah, I always pirate it.

>>81054769
As much as I love Ward's Wild Ride, I'll be immensely disappointed if it doesn't end with Fitz flaying him alive with righteous fury.

>>81055487
God I'd love it

>>81052531
Korra was really good though

>>81047764
iktf

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Season 4 could have been great... if they had killed her off during this scene.

>>81046970
It's not like this shit doesn't happen in real life. "Bennifer", " Brangelina", "TomKat".

When the whole Arrow crew as about to be gassed, I was actually rooting for it. Acceptable losses if Felicity would have died.

As far as I'm concerned, Arrow ended in S2. I watch, but it's more of not having anything else to do.

Plus the overacting makes for hilarious screencaps.

>>81055805
The moment we saw that she would definetly be back in January, I lost complete interest in watching the show. I didn't even decide to stop, I simply thought "Meh, don't feel like watching it tonight, I'll waitto be in the mood".

Haven't been there yet

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How do we make Arrow good again?

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>>81055860
>tfw Manu Bennet is forbidden to be Deathstroke ever again.

>>81055074
I don't remember any magic. Wasn't everything explained by sufficiently advanced alien technology?

>>81053822
Ward is a pretty awesome character. Partially because he lasted just long enough, then died right when they didn't really have anything more for him to add to the story. That's how a good villain should be.

>>81055487
Is this the leaked script for the two part Justice League movie?

>>81055955
You fucking cant, because it was never a Green Arrow show to begin with.

>>81048115
It would be amazing to get Amell alone somewhere and find out how he feels about not being the main character on his own show

It's honestly bizarre, because even some of Felicity's biggest fans hate her now.

And I think the scariest thing is: the writers ACTUALLY don't know what they're doing. Between the awful flashbacks, the middling main plot, and the boring, soulcrushingly repetitive romance, it seems clear that the Arrow writing room is just dialing it in. I don't think they care about a single thing in this show: the only reason they're latching onto "Olicity" is because it brought them viewers and it's simple to write/direct.

It's so rare to see such a passionless show.

>>81056187
>because even some of Felicity's biggest fans hate her now.
I dunno, I follow Amell on FB and everybody loves Olicity with a passion. Like, sickening shit.

>>81050961
The ep of Dean killing all the Stynes is one of my favorites

>>81056187
I know a girl who loves the shit out of Felicity. Every time we talk about Arrow she goes on about how great of a character she is. I never thought there would be a day that I would not want to talk about cape shit with a girl, but Felicity ruined even that.

>>81051415
Felicity's mom makes my dick hard

>>81055955
- Kill Poochy.
- Improve the fight choreography.
- More consistency regarding character capabilities - if Oliver can stomp Ra's or Merlyn he shouldn't struggle to beat random mooks.
- Give Laurel a bigger role. Make the Canary Cry more useful, and give it visual effects.
- Give Oliver a proper goatee.

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>>81055045
>never watched X-Files

Ollie is worse than felicity desu

>>81056348
Well yeah, he's Felicity's bitch now.

>>81054631
yeah the talkback threads are the only reason to watch the show. especially whenever Felicity isn't on screen someone asks "wheres Felicity" and 5 seconds later she shows up in a scene she has no reason to be in

Why do crime shows put more thought into minor one-episode gangs than Arrow did into H.I.V.E for an entire season?
Imagine how cool it would've been to expand on and improve their hierarchy, show legal fronts they use to launder money, make them feel like an omnipresent entity instead of Power Rangers villains of the season, that kind of stuff.

But fuck that, have more shitty soap opera-tier melodrama instead.

>>81056348
Only because she took his balls. He used to be confident and driven, but now he just mumbles and pines over her.

>>81050238
Im more attracted to the doll then actual human being its based on. Arrow season 1 was an ok watch, but the quality since has been crap. I have no interest in figuring out if the decline intersects w felicitys rise. Loving capes lifelong doesnt mean you have to put up with crappy low budget tv versions of them.

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Meanwhile, in a better universe.

>>81055977
There was an episode that involved vodoo magic and they do dabble into the whole vision quest thing from time to time.

>Felicity happily dancing and twirling around the appartment planning her moving out while Ollie is looking at her, heartbroken
>OH BTW SEE YOU TONIGHT, I'M STILL ON THE TEAM
>Felicity being a passive aggressive cunt during the mission
>A BLOO BLOO BLOO BEING WITH YOU ON THE TEAM IS TOO HARD I QUIT

And then the next episode is -still- about her and Lance will die and it will -still- be about her because her mom will be sad and then the team will beat Darkh and it'll -still- be all about her because they avenged her getting crippled for a few days.

I want to get off the ride. Someone help. Please.

>>81056236
The scary thing about that entire arc was that it wasn't even really 'bloodlust' or some kind of crazed rage, it was simply Dean WANTING to kill (and enjoying it). A nice twist, imo.

>>81056750
Oh and to add there was an episode where they had to deal with a satanist cult in a small town with weird un-explainable shit going on.

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>>81056726
Jimmy Olsen travels into the Arrowverse. What happens next?

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This is how you save Arrow.

>Season finale
Ollie says fuck it and up and leaves Star City without telling anyone.

>Season 5 premiere
Ollie ziplines down from the fucking space needle

I don't watch Arrow, but I see these threads popping almost everyday on /co/ and /tv/ complaining about this one bitch and I don't get why. Can someone explain to me what the deal is?

>>81056861
She's the very literal definition of a Mary Sue. And Oliver is her lapdog.

Also, to anyone who truly wants to get off the ride:

You have to remember the saying, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me."

Season 3 was the first time we were fooled. The start to Season 4 promised a different outcome, but now we're fooled again. So now, it comes down to a simple question: do you REALLY, TRULY, in your heart of hearts, ACTUALLY believe that this show will ever get better?

Even if you remove Felicity, there's so much awfulness attached to the show. All of the good writers are on Flash; all of the mediocre ones are on Supergirl and Legends; and all of the crappy ones stayed behind for Arrow. The main plots aren't going to improve; the action isn't going to improve (because their old stunt coordinator is gone); the flashbacks won't improve; the NEW romantic subplots won't improve. It might be less painful because there won't be a Felicity, but it'll still suck.

And that's assuming they'll ever kill her off for good, which they won't.

"Fool me once, shame on you...."

>>81056861
Season 1: Green Arrow enlists help of geeky tech girl
Season 2: Geeky tech girl is a regular member of team Arrow
Season 3: Geeky tech girl gets more and more focus
Season 4: The entire fucking season revolves around the geeky tech girl

If you think I'm exaggerating, just watch how DC announced the return of Flash and Arrow after a 3 week break.

https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/711971892392026118

>>81056861
Writers pet that is systematically taking over the show. On the highlight reel of shit that triggers /co/ Felicity gets crippled like Babs, magically gets fixed by a computer chip 2 episodes later, and the first thing she does with her new legs is walk out on Oliver because she wasnt consulted on a matter that wasnt any of her damn business because shes a sociopath who makes it all about her

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>>81056777
Just stop watching man. This isn't good for you. We are all here to tell you its ok to move on.

>>81056969
>do you REALLY, TRULY, in your heart of hearts, ACTUALLY believe that this show will ever get better?
No. I've lost all hope and this week's episode was the straw that broke the camel's back. I'm done.

>>81056794
He falls deeply in love with Felicity and she rejects him

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>>81046970
I want off this wild ride

>>81055153

I play ff XIV while watching.

>>81056913
>>81056980
>>81057020
Wow, I'm sorry to hear that, guys. I remember this show getting praised when the first season started. Didn't know it dropped the ball this badly.

Synder was right
to claim this an alternate universe
topkek

You know what is really sad? This last episode showed Luarel actually doing her job as the DA and having to prosecute someone they captured in costume. And now just thinking about it, so much of the show is eaten up with the Olicity shit we never actually get to see the stuff where they have to not just capture criminals but also have to get evidence so Laurel can put them away in her day job. It would actually be kind of fascinating and a good way to put in tension since they could have some cases where they don't have enough evidence. Its something that doesn't get brought up all that much in capeshit that its not enough that someone turned in a criminal while wearing a costume. You actually have to prove they broke a crime.

>>81050961
>but even at it's worst, it's still been watchable.
Episode 200, Fan Fiction. Fuck you, that wasn't watchable. That was masturbatory fanbait garbage.

>>81057153

It dropped the ball harder than Daniel Bryant's career. Some of us are just dead inside with this show.

>>81057289
he wot?

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>>81057289
>>81057656
oh nevermind, thought this was a BvS thread, I have like 10 tabs open

>>81057656
This is what he said when people were wondering if the tv and movies would be connected I am guessing

>>81056818
Star City isn't the problem, it's the writers

>>81057739
speaking of
>Starling City
Who's idea was that?

>>81057739
Ollie dropping everyone and everything would give the show a fresh start.

No Felicity, no Dig, no Thea, no Laurel.

>>81057785
You have to remember anon that Arrow started as a Nolan style realism superhero show and they were afraid to get too comic booky. It wasnt until the Flash's success that they began the backpedaling

>>81055138
desu laurel dying and felicity replacing her as the black canary will be it.

>>81057557
>I don't understand satire

Unless you're a lesbian slashfic writer, I don't really understand your ire.

>>81056794
he fucks Felicity and Oliver watches while begging for her forgiveness

>>81057843
I like Starling better honestly. "Star City" is fine, but changing it like that was awkward. Better as a nickname.

I really want Ollie to do a solo run. Let Felicity leave, send Thea off on a Teen Titans spinoff, injure Diggle for a season, and let Laurel do her own thing most episodes.

We need to make Arrow great again.

>>81057839
>no Thea,
But where can I get my holland fix.
i don't even watch arrow anymore, just lurk for Willa pics

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>>81054136
>>81054618

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>>81045884
>seriously cant understand how people are liking her as she is now especially how shes acted in the last 2 episodes

I can explain it:
The writers realize what people of "day time" "nighttime" want. They love seeing couples on TV. They don't care about the "Hero/cape" aspect. Why? Cause normal people aren't into DC comics, super hero stuff, I'm ok with the hero being in a relationship or doing something sexual. But the issue with it on TV is that if it's all about superheroes, no one is going to pay attention to it. so they have to find something that will work with it.

>>81047693
They are killing this show for the ACTUAL fans and trying to get more "Adult no brain idiot fans" and not realizing it in the mix. This was doing well, she was ok with being bait, or OK with being with the entire time? I don't understand. Is this meant to sound really nifty to the audience?

>>81047698
>>81047713
As the other anon said to you, I'm watching this cause it ties into the Flash and will at some point, I wouldn't doubt, tie into Supergirl since they are all together. They are making it more and more shitty. Fuck, even the New52s are this bad.

>>81047776
It's like reading a comic book and it says "TBC IN FLASH #12" and to understand what is going on, you have to read it which is dumb but it helps. They figured out that if they work with another show, people will watch all their shows and get higher ratings and realize how much they need the support of each sow.

If I had to rank what shows go where

1. Flash
2. Arrow
3. LoT (I've not even watched it and I give it a higher rating than. . . )
4. Gotham
5. Supergirl (this one)

Supergirl is youtube material. Any one who has seen the Nightwing and Dick Grayson serious on Youtube will even agree with me.

>>81049454
>Implying everyone here doesn't goto the bay/kickass or another torrent site
>See pic and name of the phile

The biggest thing I have noticed about this show is the simple fact that it's not written by nerds, it's written by Hypstr nerds. Meaning everything you are watching is by people who think being a nerd is "cool" when we have tried to get the normies into liking what we like for a long time but then always said the following

"I don't have time to read comic books/watch Batman VS Robin or anything like that"

"but you watch the Flash and ask me about the Speedforce and so on"

"I have a moment to watch shows!"

"I know exactly what your schedule is. What is so wrong with sitting down and learning things. You always say you're bored and I know of plenty of fun things we could do. *(I'm sorry /co/ for this reference pls dont kill me)Even on the big bang theory, the GFs of the main stars are into something nerdy. You just want to look stupid and not try shit out don't you. Have you even read the Harry Potter series?"

"No but I watched the movies!"

"They are very inaccurate compared to what JK Rowling wrote. But still close"

>>81045884
What is that orca doing out of water?

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>>81046439
>thought you were kidding
Jesus, RT's TV section is dire. How do Arrow and Supergirl have perfect/near perfect scores while Legends of Tomorrow and Daredevil are fumbling? This is embarrassing.

>>81060524
Like I said, because due to your "normie nerds" who aren't actually into comic books. If this went by the comics then you wouldn't have those scores. That's why they went with the Netflix outlet for DD vs CW or any other network.

It took every ounce of willpower I had to not make retching noises when Felicity went on her power of love horseshit speech to Cupid. And this is coming from a gril who reads romance comics.

>>81061099
A-are you a lesbean?

Poor Amell.

>>81061188
No, I am a Hibachi

>>81047713
No you don't.

I stopped watching after season 3 and I can watch Flash and LoT with no issues.

>>81061763
He looked genuinely destroyed this episode. I can't tell if that's acting or fatigue with the show but god DAMN it doesn't make Felicity look any better.

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>>81061807
pls r8 my grill anon(s)

>>81053614
Oh man I know you've been spoiled already but please go back an watch the show because they straight up ignored the fans who were into that pairing and just did their own thing.

I know it had a slow start but I would honestly say that it's one of the best cape shows airing now.

>>81060966

>If this went by the comics

As if Daredevil did

>>81056785
yeah Dean just went "big brother" on the guys who killed the closest thing he had to a sister. You can bitch about Supernatural all you want (and the show does make it pretty easy at times) but that idea of family and how they protect it and how they deal with someone who hurts it is part of it's core

>>81060524
Because RT is a measure of how many people liked it, not whether it's any good or not.

>>81062084
I've never watched or read Daredevil, I wouldn't know

>>81062573

In short, Daredevil's kung fu master stopped training him cause when still a kid Matt went after his father's murderer and an innocent person died in the mess, in the show though Matt was becoming too emotionally attached to his new father figure and the kung fu master couldn't stand it and left.

>>81063413
sounds dumb.

>>81057557
The joke
The moon
Your ass with your head inside

http://geektyrant.com/news/arrow-discussion-okay-im-officially-over-felicity

https://youtu.be/SGJ-vRbETDY

I remember reading Vulture's recap of the episode and one the commentor's wrote that this in regards to people not liking the last episode

"I hear you. I was feeling really good about the episode last night but then I read a couple of other reviews this morning and all the comments were filled with Felicity hate. I don't get it at all. That being said, Arrow ratings are actually holding steady (and sometimes up) compared to last year, so I think the faction of people on the internet who say that Olicity is ruining the show do not represent the general viewers."

>>81056818
I mean, he can zipline down it, but there isn't really anywhere to go when he gets down.

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>>81054136
yes

>>81060104
>He thinks Arrow is better than Gotham and Supergirl
>Both these shows break the CW formula
>Gotham by having no relationshit drama
>Supergirl by actually providing the proposed mix

You've just outed yourself as an
>"Adult no brain idiot fan"

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>>81045884
You know when you're in a relationship for a long time and it ends badly and your heart feels like it wants to break? That's how I feel about Arrow. I just cannot watch this show anymore, I'm ten minutes into the current one and it's just Felicity, felicity, felicity all the time. I truly give up on this show.

>>81062142
Mhm, I rather like how the writing staff manages to spin what is probably an editorial mandate from the CW ("Make something with muh secrets", "make something with bloodlust") into something semi-decent or even good. As far as character writing goes, the show is great. Overal plot is a biiit wonky these days, but it's been 11 seasons and I think the writing team knows the episodes people really like are usually the ones that are "filler".

>>81060524
Movie critics aren't TV critics. Generally speaking someone who reviews a TV show is someone who cares enough about it to follow it.

>>81052443
dIDNT SKYE GET A FAT ASS THO

>>81053815
>Ollie has an mBa in fucking Astrophysics

what?

I'm watching last night's ep right now... my God, they're not even trying to make her likable. Especially with all her little snide comments basically gloating about the un-engagement, and Oliver looks like he's about to fucking cry or something.

Also, I have no idea what's going on in the flashbacks anymore.

>>81068676
Also even Rebbit hates Felicity: https://www.reddit.com/r/arrow/comments/4bstzs/s04e16_so_about_that_gift/

I deleted Arrow of the recording list. Next episode is about her and if Laurel dies and she's in the front and center and becoming the adopted daughter of Lance then I'm done. Supergirl is better than Arrow. I'm going back to shield. Felicity is more important to Arrow then that's fine. It's going to blow up. Making a character more important than the title character is a dumb decision no matter how the fans think otherwise. A fictional romance should not be more important and it's pathetic to waist energy on it

>>81068761
I'm not surprised. Most of the Reddit "cancer" comes from overbearing SJW mods who try to mold communities to their liking - the actual users are alright. Aside from the karmafags ofc.
>>81068766
Should I check out Supergirl? I saw a webm a few days ago and the effects look really bad...

>>81068897
>Should I check out Supergirl?

Yes, episode 7 onward is pretty damn good. Just go in with an open mind and realise female lead will mean female problems at times.

>>81070077
I've been busy with work this week and haven't watched it. Are there -any- redeeming moments of the episode or is it just a big turd?

>>81070181
white cop dad was based

>>81045884
Will everyone who constantly says they're going to drop the show just drop it already so you don't continue to spam up threads that aren't even related to the show with all this Felicity whining. Seriously just drop the show or shut the fuck up at this point. Literally you're the ones who care.

>>81046488
>senior writer
goals

>One, Felicity needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine.
>Two, whenever Felicity's not onscreen, all the other characters should be asking 'Where's Felicity?'

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>>81070245

>they actually mentioned cupid stupid on the show

WHY DO THEY RUIN EVERYTHING

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>>81046488

>entire episode was about how awesome felicity was and how she don't need no man

>>81070077
>doesn't actually deny it
You can tell he's suffering.

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>>81062051
That is a pretty nice grill.

https://twitter.com/ARROWwriters/status/713101232143933440

#KillinIt

peace arrow
it's been real

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>>81073547

>>81045884
that fat hambeast is a writer for arrow? jesus christ it's like she's tumblr incarnate

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>>81073753
>35.8k tweets

>>81053565
are you kidding me?

should i start watching arrow? i want to have something i can get mad at

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>>81075357
It's 2016, Don't come near me or my wife's son again.
>>81075528
Sure, enjoy what this show will turn into.

>>81065942
Surprosed Barry didn’t ask her if she knew who Felicity was, lol.

>>81057432
>broke a crime

If you guys want to gove tour thoughts to the CW
>http://www.cwtv.com/feedback

>>81068761
Also some ONTDtard manufacturing fake drama

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/100921632.html?thread=17369180704#t17369180704

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Felicity is so cute and sexy.

>>81075528
Oh m8 you want a show that'll make you angry? Dexter is a good one.

>>81076876
You know what rally surprised me about the ONTD post? That user is one of the few FEW sane Olicity fans that I've seen online. So glad that other people called her out on her bullshit.

She's stronger than all of us.

>>81073753
I just realised oliver was talking about diggle and just substituted felicity's name.

Enjoying the agony, Arrow-boys? Come on over to Daredevil season 2 where at least the love interest is either a moody blonde wanting to get Franked or a bipolar dark skinned girl who thrill kills.

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>>81079517
I only watch this show for Olicity. DD s2 was so boring. Electra's ugly.

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>>81079720
>Elektra's ugly
I WILL FIGHT YOU, bitch oozes pure sex

>>81079743

She was oddly not very attractive on her own but managed to exude weird kinky sex appeal. It's like she could actually ACT or something.

Also she was hotter as Jinx. And looked more like Elektra too. Which was weird.

>>81079953
I agree with everything you said except for her not being sexy on her own. She's hot AND can act. That's fucking amazing in this day and age.

>>81079743
Cute

>>81071744
So... you want her to join the cast of Legends of Tomorrow?

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>>81081789

>>81078613
And if Katie was this difficult to work with it would be more than hearsay. Especially when Emily has tons of friends in the press who would love to shit on her.
But these totally true rumors are merely hearsay

>>81081955
What? It would give her access to a time machine.

>>81081956
Yeah, we'd have heard about it LONG before now. I think it's more the other way around, given how many good actors have just up and left the show. The Arrow writers seem horrible to work with. Hell, they couldn't even keep a chill guy like Manu around.

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>>81083216

>>81083545
B A S E D
A
S
E
D

>>81079743
boring white girls BTFO

>>81083216
>>81083545

Yeah, no reason to stay on a sinking ship, even in flashbacks.

Manu literally said that he wouldn't be back because he was so disappointed in his reappearance. THAT says something, IMO.

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>>81055487
You are a bad person and you do not deserve good things.

>>81053439

It's Laurel. The leaked set pics confirmed it.

>>81079517
>love interest
>not Foggy

There is only one person who deserves to love Matt.

>>81079720
Who is she? the lady in the pic?

>>81084650
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosario_Dawson

>>81084423
>laurel dead

once upon a time that might have been great. but now, it only makes my resolve to drop this show stronger.

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>>81058519
>I really want Ollie to do a solo run. Let Felicity leave, send Thea off on a Teen Titans spinoff, injure Diggle for a season, and let Laurel do her own thing most episodes.

HARD
TRAVELLING
HEROES

>>81086581
Arrow/Constantine
HARD
TRAVELLING
HEROES

It's okay now because she left, right?

Ollie is going to get with Laurel finally, right?

>>81059150
more?

>>81070077
Sumanth c'mon

>>81071381
Is this recent?

>>81081789
All she needs is access. Like how everyone on Marvel Earth can borrow Doctor Doom's time platform.

>>81090656
Yes.

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>>81090434

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3428799/
>wowitsfuckingnothing

>>81079192
Huh, just realized their characters swapped

Felicity started out okay and has turned into THE BEAST THAT MUST DIE due to the awful writing.

Skye started out shitty and has turned into COOL INHUMAN SECRET AGENT

>>81072978

It was their's to begin with. Sure it's stupid that she never said it in front of everyone but that's their joke to run into the ground if they wanna.

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>>81046970
>hey, what the hell is so fucked up about mispel-
oh