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Holy fuckballs...
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JUST
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How can it possibly be doing worse than its predecessor?
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Dawn of JUST
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I hope Civil War and X-Men are disasters too.

Please, just end this tyranny, O God.
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>Batman V Superman spent the day leveling down
> My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2 spent the day leveling up
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>>81038085
Going off of the critic consensus, the problem was that it used too many effects?
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It's now officially lower than The Room. Zack Snyder is a bigger hack than Tommy Wiseau.
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>>81038085
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>>81038237
BvS confirmed for getting BTFO by My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2. Just you wait.
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>>81038085
somebody needs to go check if they are installing nets around the WB buildings to catch jumpers
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>>81038085
what the audience score will be when they see the actual movie?
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>>81038253
From what I've read
>Too dark
>Too serious
>Too many effects
>Boring
>Bloated
>Poor character motivations?
I think that's the gist of it, which honestly is what I expected from this movie. Some of those criticisms seem a little trivial though.
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>>81038085
>its somehow worse than yesterday
>Batman Forever has a higher RT score
dance thread?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ateQQc-AgEM
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>>81038253
it seems like the same problem the transformers movies had, constant incoherent action.
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>mfw even my normie mom thinks it's a stupid fight.
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It'll make $1.5 billion anyway
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We live in a world where Deadpool is a bigger critical hit than a BATMAN VS SUPERMAN MOVIE.
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>>81038306
>implying anyone will see this shitfest
It's going to make literally 0 dollars, cap this post
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Thank god for RT, now I don't have to formulate my own opinions.
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>>81038272
Maybe they'll reboot the whole DC movieverse and let someone with actual talent and knowledge of the source material have a shot at it.
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>>81038198

>implying Winter Soldier 2: Superhero Boogaloo will be bad

>implying Bryan Singer makes bad movies as long as he has his fresh supply of Hollywood twinks delivered to him
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>John Carpenters the Thing gets bombed by critics because it isn't like E.T.
>Batman vs Superman gets bombed by critics because it isn't like Quidvengers
Like clockwork, guys.
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>>81038250
Is it really an accomplishment when your opponent breaks their own leg?
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>>81038353
*million
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Whose fault is this?
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RT Reviews in a nutshell.
>“We better wait for the next Marvel movie”
>“It is too grim, a superhero movie should be full of color and fun”
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Do you think it will reach the 20s?
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>>81038250
Fuck off.
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>>81038386
>John Carpenters the Thing gets bombed by critics
You fell for /tv/'s bait you mong, it has 80% on RT
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>>81038085
Nice Sho-
>its real
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>>81038386
>comparing BVS to The Thing
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>>81038365
I'll formulate my opinion when there's a decent rip, the reviews certainly don't encourage me to pay for it though.
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>>81038425
Ever heard of The Dark Knight? Or is that before your time?
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>>81038207
suicidesqaud am i rite?
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>>81038412

Goyer, Nolan, Snyder and the Batman centric view of WB.

And it will only get worse. I assure you that much.
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>>81038474
>bait
Not been on 4chan in a bit, mate.
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>>81038198
Let's be honest. Snyder was riding on a streak of failures, each worse than the last. Last decent movie he made was Watchmen, and that was in 2009. 7 years ago.

Russos have great track record with Carter and Winter Soldier, and so does Singer with Future's Past and First Class.

They're gonna be good. They're gonna be good and DC will be out of the game for upcoming years. Hell, maybe even Batman will lose some of it's status as a cultural icon - weirder things have happened.
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Holy fuck.

I keep telling myself the score will go up but it just sinks more and more, not because I'm a DC fan, but because I never thought we'd see a bomb of this proportions 'till 2020
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>>81038425
>>81038386
it sucks irregardless of marvel. you can have jokes that arent piss. just dont have stuff like luthor giving people jars of piss, or writing witch on martha's forehead. or a swarm of bats literally raising bruce up like jesus
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>>81038108
DAWN OF JUST
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>>81038124
Trying to cram so much shit into one film without letting it breath
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>>81038412
WB for allowing Zack to direct this after man of steel. Zack Snyder and David Goyer for being shit. Chris Terrio for writing such a shit Luthor.
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>>81038549

I bet you haven't even seen the movie
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Angry reminder that every one of you started this stupid ass "KEKEKEK DC IS FINISHED WE WERE RIGHT KILL YOURSELVES" with your smug Chris Evans reaction images as soon as the VERY FIRST review came out. How can anyone take you seriously. How do you take yourself seriously, and how do you sleep at night knowing you're so stupid?
Everyone in this thread are firing on all cylinders of stupidity. This board is dead.
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>>81038412
An oversaturated market looking to make a fast buck before another cheap trend comes and goes?
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>>81038517
Better than "The lasso of truth isn't immune to mansplaining".
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Why is it so bad? I was planning on seeing it with friends but
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>>81038549
>it sucks irregardless of marvel. you can have jokes that arent piss. just dont have stuff like luthor giving people jars of piss, or writing witch on martha's forehead. or a swarm of bats literally raising bruce up like jesus
The bat thing is dumb, but the rest are all totally cool.
>He doesn't think Lex is petty
Well okay then.
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>>81038085
Even if this manages to not bomb, I doubt Snyder will stay on for future movies.
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>>81038412
Zack Synder. He's a good visual stylist for movies, but he sucks ass as an actual film maker/director. It's like if you took a great chef at a restaurant and put him in charge of managing the restaurant with no managing experience. He's good at making food, but he would suck at anything else in the restaurant.
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>>81038602
Just go watch it. It's not as bad as people think.
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>>81038549
>irregardless
Not a word
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>>81038494
That's it, really. Dark Knight is a serious movie, and it behaves like one. Avengers isn't, and it behaves like one.

BvS is a 12 year old who still plays with his action figures, but pretends he's all Dark and Mature now.
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>>81038494

>Referencing a movie that came out 8 years ago before Marvel took over
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>>81038386

Calm down and drink your peach tea, Rooney dear
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What does DC stand for now?
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>>81038593

Calm the fuck down, Snyder. We didn't made this movie.
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>>81038446
Depends on how many more reviews it will get
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>>81038611
It's in our best interest if he doesn't.
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>>81038623
>It's not as bad as people think
They should put this on the posters
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>>81038622
Don't you mean he's great at making food presentation, but the taste actually suck?
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>>81038412
a severely retarded bro with an unearned arrogance
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>>81038622
Would he be a better cinematographer?
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>>81038494
Yeah & it was before your time, as before MCU set the standard.

If you released TDK in fucking 2016, pretty sure it would get a rotten score even with the dead actor depending on if you think Heath Ledger had anything to do with the film's hype or not.
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not enough quips
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>>81038604
>bats raise Bruce like Jesus

He says inmediatly after that it is a dream but whatever bro, keep at it
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>>81038611
He probably will. WB is as dumb as Sony. They need to be hacked.
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>>81038545
When Capeshit dies, it's going to be just as dead as Westerns.

This shit is ridiculous.
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>>81038642
Why are you acting like that's not a funny joke?
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>>81038622
It's almost as if he's a commercial / music video director with no skill at storytelling.
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>>81038549
>swarm of bats literally raising bruce up like jesus
To be fair, he wasn't the only one that got a Jesus analogy
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>>81038623
>It's not as bad as people think.- Zack Snyder.

You know. I really feel for the cast. Henry is a great Superman.
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>>81038634

>hurr durr if I make up fake rules that make me right I'm a master debater

Dredd has a 78% RT score.

DoFP and The Wolverine both took themselves seriously and were well-received.
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>>81038611
Not that his wife has anything to say about it.
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>>81038593
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>>81038705
Oh so the only actual negative criticism is a dream sequence? Sounds like a great film to me.
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>>81038517
did DC steal all the better artist that day?
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>>81038604
Lex is petty but he is above pissing in a jar and giving it to someone. read some fucking comics.
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>>81038124
Doubles down on everything critics didn't like about MoS
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So who went full retard for this?
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Feel conflicted about this, film is getting savaged but it is the 1st time Bats/Supes team up in live action film.

Still gonna go and watch it but, holy jeez.
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>>81038517
>Black man Going to a Pride Parade

That's unrealistic as fuck i don't care how liberal they are pretending Sam is
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>>81038784
>Lex is petty
Stopped reading there. Thanks for agreeing.

>>81038798
The review cuckolds that decided money > integrity.
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>>81038622
This is not a bad analogy, but i'm more concerned with the owner of the establishment letting his chef move to the front of house.

Who the fuck let Snyder be in charge a mulit-billion dollar franchise set to compete with an already wildly successful franchise?
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... guys

GUYS
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>>81038816

Make your own opinion dude.

Terrible movies could be good for you.
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>>81038722
That seems ideal actually.
People still make westerns occasionally, and they're oftentimes really good.
I'd rather have that than having four of varying quality per year
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>>81038698
Jesus how delusional can you be?
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>>81038798
Anyone who thought it wouldn't be dogshit.

I get that Batflex looked kind of cool, but the movie was obviously a crowded, overly baroque mess.

>It's going to do in one movie what marvel did in 7
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>>81038816
I'm a manager at a theater so I never pay for movies anyway, but I honestly am not even sure if I want to see this now. These reviews are fucking savage.
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>>81038849

HOLY SHIT, THIS IS HILARIOUS!
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Wait for more reviews they said.
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>>81038849
Tommy Wiseau confirmed as Justice League director when?
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>>81038787
>defending Zack the Hack Snyder's superhero film
Who has low IQ here?
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>>81038891
In what way?
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>>81038611
Rumor is that if BvS doesn't make a billion dollars, WB is pulling Snyder off Justice League.
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>>81038849

>7 fresh
>13 rotten

>43 fresh
>86 rotten
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>>81038849
The Room is actually entertaining though.
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>>81038545
Singer did not make First Class.
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>>81038878
Batfleck is supposed to be one of the only good parts of the movie.

Ben finally kills it in a superhero role, and still gets shit on.
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>>81038849
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Just the title of this movie should tell you its utter shit
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>>81038907
>>81038891
Marvel are paying off reviewers and taking the competition out. We get less choice in the future. I thought you Americans loved your freedoms?
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>>81038908
I feel like they'll do it regardless at this point. I'll never know why they don't just get actual comic book writers to do the scripts. Or at least consult. Imagine if they had like a Bruce Timm take a pass at this movie....
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>>81038631
>it behaves like one.
Yeah hence all the jokes.
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>>81038758

>Fake rules
>Some literal """""""top"""""' critic writing a review saying superhero movies should be like Marvel quip fests like IM3 and Deadpool is making up fake rules
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>>81038908
They're going to fire him either way. WB can't seriously be dumb enough to still let him be in charge after all these critical failures, right?
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>>81038787
>TDKR did just fine
Box office: 1 billion
You're talking out your ass, there. Rises was great for both audiences and critics.
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>>81038849
>>81038915
>>81038910

>The Room
>Total Reviews Counted:20
>Fresh:7
>Rotten 13

>BvS
>Total Reviews counted: 129
>Fresh: 43
>Rotten: 86

I guess DareDevil got SAVAGED by Supergirl by your logic.
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Gentlemen,

How do we kill the Batman?
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It doesn't matter how well this flick does with Mexicans and Chinks. Snyder is booted from this.
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>>81038899

Where have I defended Zack you mongoloid?
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>>81038861
True, been consuming cape media in many forms for almost 30 years. Why stop now.

>>81038890
Might as well watch it for posterity sakes.
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>>81038970
>that Supergirl critics vs audience score
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How many hours until it opens up in the states? Cause someone might want to check on some of the cast members to make sure WB aren't trying to Ledger them
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>>81038970
Why didn't you put DD season 1 in that ebin meme of yours?
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>>81038594
Nothing about Batman vs Superman was cheap or fast. Safe, bland, corporate, perhaps. Written and directed by hacks, absolutely. But definitely not cheap.
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>>81038923

>There will never be a World Finest movie
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>>81038768
Shitposter of Steel
Faster than a middle schooler five minutes before bedtime
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>>81038845
True. DC should have fired him after Man of Steel honestly. I know that the majority of people liked the film (it was somewhere in the 50's on RT), but if you're going to kick off a new franchise to compete with MCU, the highest grossing film series ever, you better be damn sure that the first installment is at least in the 70's or 80's. This is a multibillion dollar franchise on the line, WB shouldn't have let Synder direct another DC movie after the first movie was a universal "It's OK I guess". I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I read a headline saying "Warner Brothers fires Zack Synder from future DC Preojects", in the the next 2 weeks.
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>>81038326
Should they not judge this movie like every other movie because it's a super hero film and some things are expected to be terrible
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>>81038971
Hack Snyder solo film.
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>>81038970

Why do people unironically take RT scores seriously?

>2/66 critics think supergirl is an awesome show
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>>81038085

oh these are just critic reviews, honestly who even follows that. The critics that review them on the site aren't even legit critics.
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>>81038837
>Pissing in a jar
>integrity

I knew you were a retarded tripfag but wew lad
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I mean..what did they really expect?

DC wants to catch up to Marvel and the "superhero team up" they've perfected.

If Superman actually got a second movie by another director, it probably would have been good. And Supes Vs Bats? That shit is fucking perfect.

But it's clear they're trying to shove every other Justice Leaguer into the fray to get a jump start on a Justice League movie; problem is they have to share with Supes who still hasn't been fleshed out enough.
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>>81039026
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>>81039026
>statistically an equal number of people that liked Paul Blart should like BvS
I wonder what the overlap in the two is
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>>81039013
Because it wasn't my meme? just proving a point. Marvel babies sure are sensitive.
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>>81039036
TV criticism on RT is a joke. Almost every show has 70-100%
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>>81039036
But Supergirl is an awesome show.
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>>81038849
oh hai clark
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>>81038970
Supergirl is fucking terrible.
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>>81038376
Why can't Geoff Johns direct the whole DCMU?
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>>81038698

Is this really what some people believe?

Wake up, dude.
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>>81039062
Southerners.
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How can you even take this seriously when every fucking review is either NOT MUH MARVEL or THIS IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?
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>>81039057
It's not so much the JL cameos most people are complaining about, more like everything else.
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>>81038907

Like watching a video of 9/11 with a yakety sax music in the background.

>>81038940

Go fuck yourself m8. I ain't americunt.
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>>81039075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M
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>>81039075

Peep that audience score. It's only an awesome show if you're a teenage girl with a tumblr blog.
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>>81038970
Irony.
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>>81038375
This really needs to happen. Then can keep Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern and scrub the rest of the DC D-Listers.
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>>81039082
because he shares blame for how bad Green Lantern was.
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FUCK IT!

I am going watch Black nerd and see his opinion.
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>>81039111
>audience score only matters when I say it does
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>>81038963
Snyder seems to be the best they can get. They want a critically acclaimed director for Justice League and no one will bite. Remember when they asked Ben Affleck to direct Justice League?
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>>81039137
I thought the opposite was true.
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>>81039089

I'm wondering the same thing. And then some idiot in here is trying to convince me that Marvel hasn't set a biased precedent for what 50% of these rotten tomatoes scores are.
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>>81038784
No. No he really isnt.

Lex is so petty he became god and had a chance to make all of reality a utopia where everyone is happy, but gave it all up because that included Superman.

he is that much of a dick.
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>>81039089
>loud cluttered joyless muddle
>WAHH ITS ONLY ABOUT NOT MUH MARVEL


Do you get this mad when shit animated films get compared unfavorably to pixar?
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How long until news breaks of Zack Snyder being killed by an angry DC fan?
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>>81038940

Can you please shut up already? God, this is why people hate Tripfags. How can you be this delusional and retarded?

What are you, a 13 years old kid?

Fuck it, I should had started blocking tripfags long ago.
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>>81038940
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>>81039190
maybe it'll top the news when that woman threw a ball of her pubes at Hugh Jackman
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>>81039143

So you are a teenage girl with a tumblr blog.

The audience score is at 52% for Supergirl but 95% for Daredevil.
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>bvs will drown zootopia
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>>81039055
RT doesn't use on-site critics. It's an aggregate site that takes what it views as the most reputable critics and combines their scores by pigeon-holing them into "positive" and "negative."

You can feel free to disagree their choice of critics, but they look pretty "legit" to me.
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>>81038412
It's overproduced, meaning it's the product of top-down focus-grouped, screen-tested, statistically calculated, fan-pandering, executive-meddled, repeatedly-rewritten, obedient-director-on-a-leash, bandwagon-hopping bullshit.


This is a result of cynicism and a desperate flailing attempt by Warner Bros executives to rush out a competing product without having any real clue why their competition were successful.


If there's a one thing that I want /co/ to take away from this it's that if something sounds way too good on paper, then the movie was probably made on paper... by a committee of executives.
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>>81038738
And he's not even close to other directors with those backgrounds. Fincher, Bay, and Gondry blow him away.
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>>81039139
>trusting black nerds
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>>81039254
socks with sandles
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>Movie did not have Shaquille O'Neil
>0/10
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>>81039055
Fine. Metacritic puts it at 44, which is also low as shit.
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>>81038085
WB should just quit making superhero films themselves. Farm it out to Disney like Sony did with Spider-Man.
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>>81039162
It's okay

They'll replace him with Joss Whedon
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>>81039204
>getting this easily baited by a retard trip

don't give him the (you)s he craves.
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>>81039260
>trusting white nerds.
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>>81039171
I counted the RT reviews that gave it a positive and negative after comparing it to Marvel.

Positive: 3
Rotten: 2

You're just being babies, blaming critics instead of the filmmakers.
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>>81038272
Name one thing wrong with the room
>you can't
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>>81039236
The critics themselves determine if their review is fresh or rotten, actually. Which is why you have 6/10 reviews that go either way.
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>>81039080
Yes but "STRONG INDEPENDENT FEMALE" gets instant A+ from critics
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>>81039294

Have you seen the movie?
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>>81038412
I blame the fans who keep going out to see shit movies.

They're going to go out and watch this, despite knowing it's shit, and so they're only going to keep doing it.
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>>81038085
if this is true then I can take happiness in the fact that my neighbour who recently died of cancer a day ago who was a big batman fan did not have to see this shit film
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>>81039162
They need to shop outside of the same store. WB only uses WB directors. I absolutely hate to say it, but JJ fucking Abrams would have been a better choice.
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>>81039080
>>81039080

Don't wanna give it a bad review and lose your job for being a misogynist do you?

>>81039330

>A movie is shit because some hipster from LA said it was
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>>81038353
Of course. You have to watch the movie to see that it's shit. Shit movies still make tons of money
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So will this R rated directors cut for Blu-ray be better or worse than the theatrical release ?
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>>81039278
would actually be a substantial improvement.
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>>81038085
First Sony.
Now WB.
Then Fox.
Once Disney has no competition...
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>>81039288

I usually don't care, but just thinking there is someone somewhere that thinks he doing something with any form of value by keeping that shit on? It depress to a board with him.

I just really wish I could punch people on the internet, I will make the whole so much more fun, and you could actually help humanity by taking some shit out of the genepool
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>>81039339
Too bad he's watching it from Heaven.
Unless he's into reincarnation. Or maybe he liked it.
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>>81039385
Think about that.
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>>81039358
They have some good directors
>George Miller
>Alfanso Cuaron
That's all I can think of actually
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>>81039339
>Have terminal cancer
>Huge fan of DC
>Can't wait to see the big crossover movie
>Friends and family manage to give enough money to travel to an early screening
>It's shit
>Dies in theater
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>>81038353
>who cares about quality, look at the sales
I've said it once and I'll say it again, snyderfags are the sonyggers of /co/
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>>81039089

Why are you so jealous of Marvel?
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>>81039229
No, austismo, I'm talking about the Audience Score on BvS.
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>>81039275
>have DC movies be soulless cash grabs like their publisher counterparts.

I'd rather have what we're getting now than for DC movies to be another cookie cutter executive board directed, played safe, inoffensive blockbuster.
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>>81038085
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>>81038085
hey guys, remember when Goyer said 11 years ago that Batman Vs Superman is the ultimate sign they've run out of ideas?
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At least this means DC still has control of DC for the time being.
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>>81039459
Oh shit it's tied. $10 on Paul Blart!
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>>81039447
>I'd rather have what we're getting now

Yeah fucking right you tremendous faggot.
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>>81039443

The movie hasn't officially been released in the US so why are you talking about the audience score already?
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>>81038412
Warner Bros. for chasing after superhero movie money
That's why they made Green Lantern, that's why they made MoS, that's why they made this BvS, that's why they're making Justice League.
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>>81039477
What?

>>81039447
This kind of reception gives DC a bad name. We don't need that shit. They need to cut their losses, let it go, massively retool their approach and start over.
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>>81039526
Chasing after superhero movie money is not wrong, they're a business.

Doing it ineptly is.
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>>81039489
>>the audience score only matters when I say it does
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>>81038593
Fuck off Zack, Henry deserved better than what you gave him
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>>81039536
Fuck starting over. They can only improve from here anyways.
Do you really want another batch of boring origin stories?
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>>81039488
said the tremendous faggot that wants Disney to pretty much be the only film distributor in the world only because they made your favorite funny book movie for whatever reason.
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>>81039438
The critics are literally mad at it for not being a Marvel movie. I want both companies to succeed mind you.

>>81039182
Most of them shit on it for not having any humor or light heartedness unlike MAHVEL. It's almost as if they expected DC to completely change their tone.
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>>81039339
He probably saw the early reviews and simply gave up on life
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>>81039275
WB should let DC go so they can't hold it back anymore.
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>Rise of the Silver Surfer has a higher score

Just fuck my shit up, fahm. Just fuck it up.
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>>81039254
new balance
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>>81039423
Avengers 1 is better than literally everything Snyder has made.

While vastly inferior, so is AoU
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>>81038358
Outside of the internet and especially this place, no one cares that it sucks
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Friendly reminder to set your 4chan filters to hide posts with the phrase "now that the dust has settled"
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>>81039591
There are legit technical issues with it. Snyder's had these issues from day one.
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>>81039479
Nah, check the average rating. The movie's scoring terribly, but the average review ratings are at least higher than Mall Cop. That the $250 million production is only barely scoring better than Paul Blart: Mall Cop is funny and tragic.
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>>81038697
Eh, not really. Cinematographers only really handle the actually shooting and lighting.

Much of the style of a film is in it's blocking and editing.


The hollywood system isn't really set up to accommodate someone whose only gift is style.

Typically this kind of director might luck out and get a good script with good actors a few times.

Or maybe despite their handicap they'll makes something everyone can't help but like because their style is just so refreshing and interesting.

But eventually their other weaknesses will show. They'll make several stinkers in a row. All their movies will start to look the same. And then they'll get dumped into the pile of has-beens. There are a *ton* of former 'bigshots' in hollywood that have ended up just like that.


A film director is supposed to be an auteur. He has to do more than just 'make stuff look cool'. He has to control it all -- he has to do it all. Or at the very least, make up for his deficiencies by cultivating long-term relationships with writers, actors, cinematographers, etc that he can always work with.
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>>81039618
People do man. You don't think casuals want a good DC movie like we do?
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>>81039618
I've heard "normies" in public talk about how "Man of Steel was a terrible movie". Quoting verbatim.
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>>81038124

Because MoS was a mess of poor characterization and pacing that managed tol remain as a self contained movie whereas BvS is a clusterfuck of World's Finest, The Dark Knight Returns, Death of Superman and Justice League that was more concerned with setting up upcoming movies.

Basically another ASM2
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>>81039591
Most of them shit on it for being unintentionally ridiculous. There is plenty of humor, but in a "laugh AT the movie" way.
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>>81039536
>This kind of reception gives DC a bad name
DC's bad name is that it's not Marvel & owned by major multimedia conglomerate. Guaranteed if they stay the course & fire Snyder, they might just get an average 70 RT score instead of what they're getting now.
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>>81039653
This.
The real question is, would Larry Fong be a better director.
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>>81039635
Damn shame. Kevin James' performance as the american icon really exemplified the ideal man. My favorite scene was when he battled Zod and the ashes of the city rained down on him as he kissed Adam Saddler.
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>>81039618
Even my dad who's casual as fuck did not like MoS.
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>>81039634
Yeah but that's not why it's 36%. It's probably at absolute best a 70% movie, but they're rating it that badly because they had preconceived notions of what a superhero movie is supposed to be, and to them, trying something and falling short is a lot worse than never trying at all.
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>>81038386
>Quidvengers
It's Quipvengers. Get it right.
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>>81039653
So there is no hope for Snyder
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DC's never gonna shake the lame company reputation, huh
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>>81038412
WB's & DC's trepidation to jump to release films in even competition with Marvel combine with an excessive amount of corporate meddling, along with leave Zack Snyder in charge of a project he is fundamentally incapable of doing well or correctly. They waited too long and misinterpreted why the Avengers did well while trying to preserve the mythic, mature feel of Nolan's Batman trilogy: something that doesn't work well in anything more than a film about Batman.

They tried to jump from Ironman to The Avengers and forgot to make the characters memorable or likable first, something Marvel had the benefit of other films to do first.

WB & DC had so much riding on this film that they forgot to check if it was good or not.

Zack Snyder, the writers, and the editors of this film do not understand Lex Luthor on any level and should never have included him in this film.
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>>81038970
This, I don't know why so many memes of the RT scores, it's getting pretty crazy, and /tv/ is pretty unbearable now.
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>>81039394
>>81039394
The great mouse is coming,
the great mouse is coming~
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>>81038970
this is... not right. Daredevil is the best capeshit tv show yet. Supergirl i couldn't watch past episode 3 because terrible cg, black Jimmy, so campy, terrible wire stunts etc.
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Man, justified or not, comprehensible or not, legitimate or not, all these Marvel comparisons must be burning a hole in Snyder and the producer's head.

Good.
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>>81039618
I've seen people get mad at the mention of MoS. Remember some spic was like Superman is my favorite hero and shouldn't kill people.
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>>81038085

As stated the reviews don't matter. This movie can have a rating of 19% and WB/DC would not give a flaming fuck, at all.

The only thing that matters is the box office gross. That's the only thing WB/DC is looking at right now. In order for this movie to be declared a success it has to hit a overall box office gross between 1 to 2 billion dollars.

The thing that you guys are ignoring is the user reviews which are around 80%. So that means a shit ton of casuals will pour their money into this film.

So show all the low metric scores you want but in the end this movie will be declared a success because it brought in a mad amount of $$$.
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>>81039697
>anon in charge of knowing how to read RT scores
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>>81039697
Or maybe it's just a bad movie?
Deadpool was a huge hit and took a huge risk by not being the typical superhero movie.
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>>81039704
None whatsoever. He doesn't even have the benefit of the doubt that we gave George Lucas or Luc Besson
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>>81038085
The 33% number is fucking meaningless. It's average is 5.2/10 which sounds about right.

This is why RT is fucking useless. People see the big shiny number and think that's the rating critics are giving it.
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WAKE ME UP
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>>81039727
you can watch DD without RT making the decisions for you. Are you a fucking sheep?
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>>81039706
They'd have to stop being a lame company first.
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Im trolling twitter

Majority of positive tweets are people coming out movie
Majority of negative tweets are people referencing reviews

Interesting disconnect
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>>81039570

I hope youre only pretending to be this dumb
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>>81039773
>This is why RT is fucking useless. People see the big shiny number and think that's the rating critics are giving it.
That's just an argument for people being stupid, not for the site itself being useless.
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>>81039773
5.2 is still a pretty bad score.
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Oh fuck off. 129 votes? That is not accurate. Who the hell do you think got early access? Movie critics. And pretty much every movie critic hates super hero movies. SO shut the fuck up till it comes out.
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>>81039784
DC isn't in charge of the movies. Not even Marvel is now. DC is bound to WB and Marvel Studios is separate.
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I'm so sorry DC bros.
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>>81039026
damn. I thought BvS was shit, but i'd gladly see BvS again for the action sequences than an Adam Sandler or any of his bud's movies in cinema.
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>>81039765
What bad films has Luc Besson made?
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>>81039792
i kept seeing tweets of people being buttmad at reviews and trying to stick it to critics by watching the movie as if they give a shit lel.
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>>81039742

Should DC just sell out and start making Batman quip like Tony and Superman an insufferable patriot like Cap? Is that what it will take to get these hipster critics to not write rave reviews?
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>>81039816
I'm saying they suck as a movie and comic company.
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My dad may not read comics at all, but him saying the movie doesn't make sense since Batman shouldn't be able to stand a chance against Superman gives me life because he wanted to see MoS, but he doesn't want to see this train wreck.
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>>81038849
The Room got an oscar nom because of rape culture thinky time.
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>>81039812
>>81039773
>5.2

HYPERCRISIS
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>>81039671
Not to be a dick but is WB not considered a major multimedia conglomerate?
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>>81039671

>DC's bad name is that it's not Marvel & owned by major multimedia conglomerate.

DC isn't owned by a major multimedia conglomerate?! Jesus, nobody tell WarnerBrothers.
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>>81039773
>It's average is 5.2/10 which sounds about right.
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A guy proposed to his girlfriend right before the movie started. She said yes obviously. By the end of the movie half of the room was empty.
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>>81038474
Critics at the time. As in 1982.
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>>81039859
MCU Captain America is a fantastic character, though.
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>>81039872
Batman has kryptonite.
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>>81039876
>>81039885
Oh boy.
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>>81039872

What does this got do with the topic?
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>>81039762
Deadpool had quips and jokes. The only thing that separates it and MCUshit is the swearing and violence.
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>>81039895

He is insufferable in the avengers movies.
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>>81039814
>http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/captain_america_the_winter_soldier_2014/
>89% certified fresh
>http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/guardians_of_the_galaxy/?search=guar
>91% certified fresh
>http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/antman/?search=ant-
>80% certified fresh

They sure have a funny way of showing that.
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Holy shit can you people think for yourselves? Who cares what the ratings are, if you so interested in seeing it that you are spending time to check its review and then post on a website asking other people's opinion just spend the 10 bucks and see it when it comes out and forget wasting all this time before hand.

Just because a bunch of critics say it fucking blows doesn't mean its true. Movies are an art form and art is subjective. Every single person on earth can say a movie is awful but their opinion is no more valid than yours.
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>>81039872
My dad just hates capeshit in general, says its all for money.
He loved Nolan trilogy and was kinda ok with the first Iron Man.
I told him about Civil War and Dawn of Justice where the heroes are fighting each other.
He thought that was just the dumbest shit he's ever heard of and makes no sense.
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>>81039859
They should start by writing them like their comic selves. You know, where Supes exudes confidence and trust, and not condescension and worry like he does. He doesn't need an arc, he needs to make every character he comes into contact with have one.

Also make Batman enjoy himself. He's broody all the time except when kicking ass and being smug that he planned it all all along, not go along for the ride.

Also, remove the fucking bleak filter.
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>>81039895
He's a bland as shit character who has pants stuck up his ass

Oops, I'm not allowed to swear since he doesn't like swearing
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>>81039876
AWWW SHIT

ANTI-LIFE EQUATION IN REAL LIFE
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>>81038085

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czLYl4fM8yk
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>>81039918
Everyone is. What is your point?
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THE DAMAGE CONTROL IS REAL
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>>81039918
he turns into Captain Quip. That's why.
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>>81039918
He's okay in the Avengers movies. He has at least one line in each showing how much he cares though.

That's two more than Superman. And that's Whedon. Fucking WHEDON did a better job at an earnest character. Think about that for a second.
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>>81039954
>Not being a sheep who uses other opinions to validate his own means you're a crying DCuck lmao DC BTFO yet again!!!!!!!!!! xD
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Can someone edit this with a scene from BvS? Actually with the scene of Bats Supes and Wondy would be perfect.
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>>81039859
How about they just write Superman better?
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>>81039976
>A REMARKABLE ACHIEVEMENT in how boring one superhero movie can be
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>>81039963
Breh it aint a 9% like fan4stick or insurgent

no shame in quoting good review
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>>81039976
>>81039963

>1.png 2.png
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>>81039939
HAIRY CHESTED LOVE GOD
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tfw there's a alternate timeline in where Bruce Timm is in charge of the DC Movieverse

I wanna go there...
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>>81039684
Would he?
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>>81039920
X-men version:
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/x_men_first_class/
>87% certified fresh
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/x_men_days_of_future_past/
>91% certified fresh
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/deadpool/?search=dead
>84% certified fresh
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>>81039752
yeah but at 100k user reviews compared to mall cops nearly 400k it's not like its record breaking numbers
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>>81039994

Dude your sodium levels are off the charts

it's okay bro. it's just a movie bro.
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>>81039859
Batman is apparently alright in this movie except bat of murder

Superman shouldn't be a brooding frowning robot. He should be a man who exudes charisma and confidence, and is actually likeable. He can brood, be insecure, be unsure of himself, but it he shouldn't be doing it 24/7.
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Funny how people think all the reviews are bitching about lack of humor/not muh Marvel, when the worst ones are far nastier than that.
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>>81039973

Nah Captain America is awful in the team-up movies and average at best in his own.
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>People are surprised

The moment that one trailer came out (You know the one) we all knew the ENTIRE plot of the film, and we knew it was going to be trash.

Anyone who didn't see this coming from a mile away is a dope
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>>81039026
Wait is that critic consensus fake because I'm not seeing one
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>>81039996
The Lex piss jar would be better.
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Fucking Christ DC, get it together.
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>>81039963

Yeah they should post that review of some nerd in glasses saying "WAIT FOR CIVIL WAR"
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>>81040035
I'd say there's only 33% chance he could be worse.
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>>81038085
Jesus, just get me off this train. I want out.. I can't take this anymore. I'm supposed to go see BvS with my friend this week, and I'm going no matter what reviews say, but this is just depressing. Count me on for suicide watch along with Affleck and DC.
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>>81040075
>"Basically a dumpster fire."
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>>81040030

>There exists an alternate universe where WB wasn't run by complete mental deficients who saw how popular the DCAU was and decided to make a movie universe right there and then
>The people of that universe are about to sit down and watch Justice League :Final Crisis part 2

It hurts
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>>81040094
>DC
>Not WB
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>>81039918
>insufferable
Hey, language.
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>>81040104
But nobody supported Fant4stic unlike this.
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>>81039889
Thanks for the tale of intrigue, anon
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>>81039339
sorry to hear that.
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>>81040039
>DoFP higher than First Class

Fucking RT
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>>81040056

No salt its just annoying that this sub is absolutely flooded with the exact same posts.

OMG OMG OMG Batman Vs Superman is horrible omg guys, guys omg, can you believe it? Lets have a total circle jerk about how terrible a movie is based off of a couple of lines I read by someone who saw the movie without any first hand experience.

I swear the majority of the people on this board are autistic.
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>>81038085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUFWXpYJKaI

CONGRATULATIONS WB!
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>>81040138

Then you're a fool. That was a trap so /tv/ could b8 with it later
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>>81039112
>tells "shills" to get out
>going full damage control for BvS

Well if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black
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>>81040104
Fant4stic was just another unsuccessful and completely unanticipated crack at making live action Fantastic 4 a thing.

Batman V Superman was supposed to be a big deal.
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>>81040131
Poor Henry, he seems like a nice chap.
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>>81040117
>Not Batman v Superman, that fight sucked. The Stars of this movie are Doomsday and Wonder Woman!
The Fresh review is the meanest one there.
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>>81040154
Look, I'm just a Marvel fan trying to cheer up the fanboys who are normally delusional and will defend anything DC to the death.
This isn't easy.

Ummm, well, at least it's not Catwoman?
>>
Marvel movies really ruined comic movies. Because of the wide appeal many movie viewers are expecting quips, and SJW material in comic movies. Is BvS a masterpiece? No, but it is better than the first Avengers movie, and not as good as Wintersoldier. But critics eat quips and humor up.

I hope DC just scraps movies, and focuses on television shows. A showtime or HBO Constantine, or a well budgeted Batman or Superman series.
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>>81040085
The one with Doomsday? Or the "Tell me, do you bleed?" one in April?
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>>81040180
>not loving the horrible puns and scenery chewing of Batman and Batman Returns
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>>81040180
still like returns, forever's bearable, B+R:death of batman is shit.
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>>81040131
To be fair they already saw this Superman in a whole movie.

I would expect Spider-Man to blow everyone out of the water in a CW poll, with T'Challa placing better than his C-Tier status.
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>>81040171
>I swear the majority of the people on this board are autistic.

Where_do_you_think_we_are.jpg
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>>81038378
>implying Winter Soldier 2: Superhero Boogaloo will be bad

I want to believe but people were saying the same about BvS.

At least Civil War's directors delivered last time.
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>>81040219

Doomsday. The one where the BIG REVEAL of General Zod's corpse was spoiled in the fucking trailer.
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>>81040165
It's correct though.
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>>81040228

Touche
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I LITERALLY have Zero Fucking Doubt there are hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars, being deposited on so-called "Reviewer's" PayPal accounts as we speak, from some silly Disney subsidiary (if it was named Funtime Inc. it would be too poetic) that is too well hidden to prove anything because this is a conspiration.

This is how this happens.

This how a giant corporation kills art.

You are fucking seeing it: form opinions on drones without giving them a chance to make up their mind utilizing propaganda. Anyone not on Disney's picket and with a working brain will acknowledge BvS is really an amazing accomplishment of storytelling, but it has a lot more in common with William Wyler's Benn Hur than The Avengers. It is a story about humanity and not a comedy about people who only look human on the outside.

If anything WB was right about "normies" being unable to GET this movie. And it obviously (and painfully) goes over Marvel fans' head for the most part because its not carpeted with shiny bright lights and remedial attempts at comedy.

If Zach Snyder is guilty of anything, is of elevating the genre into something more abstract and artistic than western audiences can handle.

It's a real shame 4chan can't see past Disney's deception. It proves once for all this place is filled with little more than half-witted consumerist drones .
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>>81040103
That'll show em how smart you is

https://youtu.be/f0X-8tSgiuA
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>>81040216
>Is BvS a masterpiece? No, but it is better than the first Avengers movie,
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>>81040216

>am I out of touch?
>No, it's the children who are wrong
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>>81040171
>this sub
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>>81040171
>this sub
>>>/r/4chan
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>>81040192
Well, ummm...
At least it's not ASM2?
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>>81039435
>this ACTUALLY HAPPENED http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/batman-v-superman-sick-fan-saw-film-before-he-died-thanks-to-zack-snyder-a6943806.html
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>>81038198
I don't think Marvel can buy bad reviews at this point. Has anyone of their mediocre movies gotten a certified rotten?

Singers X-Men are much the same.
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>>81040216
No anon. For all Marvel's cookie cutter bullshit, at least their 1 formula has a coherent story (unlike BvS), all the actors like being there (unlike Henry Cavill), and have directors who don't tell their editors "just fuck my shit up" (unlike Snyder).

This film is badly scripted, badly directed, badly edited shit. But hey, at least the cinemtography is kinda cool, amirite?
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>>81039597
> mfw this is possible
> mfw that's maybe what happened
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>>81040259
Avengers was fun, yes. But it fell apart in hindsight. I'll see if my stance on BvS changes after i see it in 3D tomorrow. A second-viewing gives perspective.

But i actually really enjoyed the movie when i saw it tonight. It felt mature, less reliant on jokes and "safe" storytelling to market a mass appeal.

I'd expect a lot of complains from normies, but the people i've talked to so far and the people posting examples on here makes me surprised given the potential for stuff going over peoples heads in this movie.
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>>81040254

The levels of denial on display here are impressive.
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>>81040259
>>81040273
If you really thought the first Avengers was a good movie you have shit taste. Winter Soldier is by far the best MCU movie, followed by Antman. BvS is probably an 7.5/10 and the MCU movies are on average a 7, but get praised for some reason. I am actually a Marvel Fag, except Supes is my favorite all around hero. Just saying this before ppl call me a DC drone.
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>>81040319
>BvS is a Golgom plot
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>>81040254
>If Zach Snyder is guilty of anything, is of elevating the genre into something more abstract and artistic than western audiences can handle.
how can one man have all this autism?
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>>81040307
That sounds like the guy that wanted to see Force Awakens before he died.
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There is so much bait in this thread top kek.

I can't even tell who is serious and who isn't.
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Is it safe to say that if this movie is anything short of great, the DCEU is actually gonna be dismantled?
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>>81040335
>"normies" don't like it!
>that makes me superior to them!
jesus just go back to /r9k/ and never return
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>>81040254
Oh boy, it's like GG again, when children realized that media critics are owned by large corporation, and that collusion exists!
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>>81038412
DC.
They made one movie introducing one character, went full retard and it all went to shit.
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>>81040376
>skanky ho bag Harley Quinn
It's already shit. Bruce Timm design or nothing.
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>>81040254

Same shit I'm saying, its not even about defending DC, maybe its a god damn train wreck that is kind of the fucking point.

I DON'T KNOW AND NETHER DO YOU

Stop making an opinion about things you have not even experience for yourself. Movies are an art form and just because others don't like it won't mean you will agree with them.

Maybe the movie will be shit
Maybe the movie will be great

Maybe you should stop reading the god damn reviews if you are so invested in it that you are going to spew what you think on a website and instead spend $10 to form your own opinion.

Is forming an opinion so hard for you people that you'd rather just follow what the majority of people think?
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>>81040254
Did you just call batman v superman a work of art?
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>>81040364
to be fair FA is not a masterpiece but it was entertaining and has good chars
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>>81040309
yes its all a conspiracy.
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>>81040317
I just realized. Since JL1 is probably going to get retooled if not scrapped, that means delays and JK Simmons will be free to play Jonah in the MCU.
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>>81040416
Finn and Poe were great. Not Rey tho.
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>>81040216
>blame the critically & commercially successful movies for ruining a genre by instilling expectations that other production companies failed to meet or make up for with other qualities
>not blaming other production companies for being plain bad at making movies
I generally don't even like the MCU movies, but at least they're not this. All that happened was that WB and Snyder tried making something with a relatively serious tone and it turned out they couldn't pull it off. Blame it on the source material being fucking ridiculous, blame it on the people involved just being plain shit at what they're doing, or blame it one whatever. Doesn't change the fact that with or without Marvel, MoS and BvS are not good movies.
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>>81040235
Unlike BvS, the test screening rumors about Civil War have been positive. None of the trailers have been complete shit. The producers have a proven track record. The last movie by these directors wasn't highly divisive. And so on.

I'm not saying it'll be amazing, but they're probably going to avoid the cluster fuck that is Dawn of Justice.
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>>81040273

>Not liking quipy movies makes you out of touch
>Everyone now thinks comic book movies should be light hearted, lol hi im breaking the fourth wall here!, HEY LANGUAGE, quip fests
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>>81039889
Got anymore internesting stories that never happened?
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>>81040376

Yes

MoS failing was getting kidnapped by ISIS
BvS failing was the DCEU getting dragged out in front of the cameras and put on it's knees
SS failing would be the machete going though the DCEU's neck
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This is gonna help the bubble burst that much faster.
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>>81040254
Isn't Rotten Tomatoes owned by WB?
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>>81040397

>DC

No. They're really low on the list of who fucked this. They have no say
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>>81039963
Because other companies never do anything like this.....
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>>81039432
What about Del Toro?
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>>81040439
i didnt hate her

I liked Darth Vader jr, i like that he is basically a fanboy cosplaying and that even Rey knew that
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>>81040387
Maybe i should've been specific about what i meant. By normies i mean "non-comicbookreading moviegoer audience", thought normie would convey that better than that mouthful.

also
>thinking my usage of the word was about superiority
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>>81038272

That's because The Room is actually enjoyable on some level whereas BvS is just a dreary slog
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>>81038326
Too many effects can fuck up a movie, see the transformers series where it's just a fuckton of flash with no substance.

People actually like dark and brooding bats so the dark and srs complaint must mean it's edgy as hell and combined with poor character motivation it makes how shit the serious tone is really stand out.

Whedon may be shit, but he's fun enough that you can ignore how shit and face palm inducing he can be. Being >le edgy n serious deconstruction can fuck your entire movie if you're too shit to pull it off since it's harder to do.
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>>81039976
>Forbes

That's like getting a quote from someone with a Livejournal.
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>>81040410

It's a movie by that definition, yes, it is a work of art. What are you, 13?
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>>81040489
Him too
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>>81040483
>How do you manage to fuck up BATMAN VS SUPERMAN?
The premise itself is bad.
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>>81040353
Things Avengers did right that the whole DCCU still needs to work on.

>not feeling rushed
>heroes who feel like people to look up to
>heroes that can be related to
>changes to from the comics that at least still keep the basic sprite of the characters
>likable villain
Say what you want about Loki, at least there are people who like him.
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>>81040428
Do it Feige! Chariots chariots.
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>>81040487
Isn't Geoff Johns directly involved? He was on one of the segments that plays on On Demand talking about DC characters.
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>>81040478
RT is a review aggregation. They just repost reviews/Scores; not actually produce them.
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How are people saying critics are biased against serious super hero movies? Did you all forget the Nolan Batman movies were very well received? I mean, Rises even came out like four months after the Avengers and critics didn't shit on it for being serious.
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>>81040104
>Fant4stic.
Some of these critics are fucking acting like it is. moviebob literally called it he worst cape movie ever made.
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>>81039859
>Cap
>Openly defies the U.S. government on multiple occasions
>Insufferable patriot

Do you see what's wrong with your statement there? Of course not. You're too busy being booty-bothered about company wars shit.
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>>81040441
>WB and Snyder tried making something with a relatively serious tone and it turned out they couldn't pull it off.
Trying to be serious and falling on your head is really something that's hard to watch. I haven't seen BvS but MoS certainly felt like that to me.

There's nothing wrong with trying to make a serious superhero movie, you just have to actually pull it off.
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>>81038353
word of mouth is going to kill the second week of this garbage. I still have to find a review that didn't shit on the movie or call it garbage that is only fun while being drunk.
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>>81040490
Darth Faggot is worse than BvS.
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>>81040537
what stops them from not reposting reviews they don't like?
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None of this matters.

You can see the seeds of whats going on right now. Wonder Woman is getting a humongous social media push by WB marketers. A lot of things are claimed to be shills, but this actually is. WB is protecting her and Batman the most for obvious reasons. Man of Steel 2 is never EVER going to happen. Justice League will go forward as long as the opening weekend is $140-150+. Zack will not have final cut of Justice League. The Justice League script since yesterday evening is being picked apart by an assault task force assembled by WB. This sort of thing costs a lot of money to bring these guys in. Tough questions are being asked about the critical structure of that script but for the most part it is dialogue cleanup. Going to plan, there is no way to change the major points of the Justice League script since pre-production, shooting schedules, shot setups are already finished. This is more like a penalty box for Snyder for the bad reviews, but he will direct Justice League if BvS makes money.

Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman will be sheltered as much as possible. The DCEU will proceed as planned.
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>>81040444
I feel the same.

The only thing I'm a bit worried about is RDJ. He tends to act like a diva on-set. Dunno how the Russos will co-op with him.
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>>81040235
>I want to believe but people were saying the same about BvS.
One is directed by Zack Snyder, the other is not. BvS being bad isn't really that shocking taking consideration of Snyder bad movies streak.
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>>81040546

Moviebob has always been one for Hyperbole.
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>>81040523
It's worked in comics for about 60 years.
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>>81040447
Comic books should be entertaining.
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>>81040207
Nobody supported Catwoman either
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>>81040563
They way i understood it, he is intentionally cringy and much less skilled than he thinks he is.
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>>81038085
>A loud, cluttered, joyless muddle that might be described as Snyderissimo
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>>81038353
It's going to do crazy opening week, fanboys will claim it's going to be the highest grossing superhero movie, then it'll drop significantly in the second week when people who haven't seen it don't and no one goes back to see it.
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>>81038085
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>>81040523

Which part of the premise is bad?
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>>81040546
>moviebob

Is there a vid yet?
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>>81040259
>What mustache twirling villains faceless mooks shall we take out tonight Pinkey?
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>>81040530
I will give you this. These are some of the main problems with DC movies. Especially having likable heroes. Fuck Supes is supposed to be one of the most likable person, and in these movies he is far to dark. I was hoping with Batman in the movie, Clark could take a lighter tone.

Also Lex was horrible in the movie no doubt about that. The main problem is the lack of mass appeal DCCU has. MCU panders, which imo is going to cause an implosion soon, it already is effecting the comics. DCCU tried to pander in a different way by going gritty, instead of a lighter tone. That is not say there needs to be quips, but man make the heroes a beacon of hope at least.
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>>81040564

people give a shit about RT because it doesnt pick and chose which reviews to publish

if it starts doing that, all credibility will go down the drain, along with advertiser money (which is how it makes cash)
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>>81040564
It would look pretty damn obvious.
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>>81040405
See the thing is I think the sheep are the people that mindlessly buy into this capeshit.
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>>81039470
I genuinely don't, can you refresh me?
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>Let's take one fight during The Dark Knight Returns, completely strip all context from it, and pretend it's the origin story of the Justice League

Who thought this was a good idea? Why not just make a normal origin story for the Justice League, like New Frontier did?

In fact, why not just make a New Frontier live action movie?
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>>81040399
Bruce Timm has said he loves this design.
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>>81040607
Yes it was intentional but it made the film weaker. It's Star Wars, gotta have a good villain with strong presence like Thrawn
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>>81038849
>Room average rating: 3.5/10
>BvS average rating: 5.2/10

Look, I'm losing hope myself, but let's not get carried away.
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>>81040621
>gee I don't know brain, how about we just ask Zodoomsday?
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>>81040444
It definitely will avoid it. Not only because of the producers, but overall Marvel still controls what is made and released. They found their tone and formula long ago, and as boring as repetitive quippy Marvel movies have become, it'll still rate pretty high. I mean, just in the beginning of an epic battle "LE UNDEROOS" is shouted (but it's besides the point).

Marvel movies get the benefit of the doubt because it's Marvel, and shills will use "i-it's their style", yet Winter Soldier is their best movie, but when DC comes out with something, suddenly it's too dark and serious as if this isn't DC's way of doing things. I know that's not those are not the only things critics are saying, but they shouldn't be said to begin with. If it has bad story, pacing, and cgi? Then say it, but don't use "not enough quips, not mahvel" as the legs to stand on. I honestly don't think it's fair, and I'm a fan of both fucking companies.
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>>81040548

I'm not a consoles war idiot and I'm sorry I called your favorite hero insufferable (which he is)
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>>81040620
yes.
Spoiler alert: he ain't happy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTKDtoBR-2M
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I'm so fucking sad right now
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>>81040653
How would you update it? Unless you mean it's a one-off thing and the 50s thing is kept.
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>>81040565
WB is too hot and bothered about the idea of getting some of that Avengers money. Of course they won't drop the DCEU.

The question is whether or not this breaks $1 billion, who gets cut, who stays on, how it changes their planned sequels and spinoffs, etc.
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>>81040530
>>likable villain
Fuck off with this shit. There's not a single good villian in the entire MCU.
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>>81040589

t.someone who doesn't read comics
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>>81040693
If there is, he is killed immediately.
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>>81040682
He compares it to digestive track problems and calls it a tiresome movie.

I normally don't listen to him a lot, but he does know what eating and being tired is.
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>>81040672
Problem is anon, DC/WB does dark and brooding really badly.
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>>81040672
READ THE REVIEWS. Not even 5% are comparing it to Marvel. It is legit badly paced and edited. Stop complaining about Marvel success and start pointing fingers at the real culprit, Snyder.
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>>81040619
Let me break it down for you.
>Batman
Okay, this isn't a bad start.
>vs
Oh, so Batman's fighting somebody. I can see how that might work.
>Superman
And by the time we reach this part it and account for the two previous words in the title, it all implodes in on itself out of sheer stupidity.
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>there will never be a Superman live action movie with Mxyzptlk as a villain

Actually, imagine if WB tried to apply Nolan-ism to Mister Mxyzptlk. It would probably be the most unintentionally funny thing ever.
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>>81038353
It will probably have a great opening week, then when people will see how shit it is and tell everybody no one will go to see it again and will end up making around 150 000 000
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>>81040565
>dialogue cleanup

Please no quips.
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>>81040693
>Purple Man
>Fisk
>Loki
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>>81039885
Now this is a pretty sad comparison.
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>>81040630
>MCU panders, which imo is going to cause an implosion soon, it already is effecting the comics.

Meh, Marvel has had a noticeable drop in quality lately, but I blame ANAD more than the MCU since the MCU changes have not been the biggest problems in the comics.
For every MCU change that's a problem, I can show you 2 other problems that are much larger.
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>>81040630

I'm fine with an origin Supoerman being a bit moody about his powers but when he's in the suit he should enjoy being a hero. He's been a hero for two years and is still a sad cunt. It's a fine line between having a Superman who feels like he can't say everyone and a Superman who tries to save as many people as he can but having the former instead of the latter makes all the difference
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>>81040693
So piss luthor is better?
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I don't want Snyder to direct JLA.
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>>81040693
I didn't like him, but I think you know a shitload of people did like Loki, so much they decided to stick him in Thor 2.
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Help me bros

I can't fucking take this I have been literally crying for the past few hours

Wake me up from this nightmare

This wasn't supposed to happen

This was supposed to be the movie that saves DC

This was our time bros, OUR FUCKING TIME

WE WAITED THREE FUCKING YEARS

BATMAN AND SUPERMAN TOGETHER ON SCREEN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY AND IT'S A FUCKING FLOP WHAT THE FUCK WENT WRONG
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>>81040653
>>81040688
You could update it from the 50s and its air of the Red Scare to the modern day with a fear of foreigners or Islam or whatever other topical, controversial thing is going on when it's made.

Nothing about it necessarily means it has to be a one off either. New Frontier has no sequels, but the ending throws open the door for plenty adventures after the big, scary island is defeated. It works as a potential JL origin story, which makes me wish someone at WB had had a boner for NF instead of TDKR.
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>>81040665
>Don't be ridiculous, we have to keep the same plot every movie, quick, come up with some quips.
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>>81040707
People who read comics don't want them to be entertaining?
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>>81040741
i imagine the aliens from battle field earth.
that may just be me, though
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>>81040650

Different strokes. Batman has been my favorite comic book character since I was 10. My expectations have always been low, and if a movie genuinely looks bad I won't see it.

Batman vs. Superman looks entertaining and there is no review that will tell me otherwise. I would rather spend $10 then talk about how terrible it is without even seeing it to judge for myself.

I've seen a lot of terrible movies this way, but I've also seen a lot of great movies that I otherwise would not have watched if I went solely off of reviews. Cinema is an art form. Just because the mass population does not look a piece of art does not inherently make it bad or good. It's about how it speaks to you.

I've had reservations about this movie since I read that WW was going to be in it, chances are it will be too busy, but without seeing it its pretty hard to have my own opinion.

If you are going to make an opinion about something subjective without experiencing it first hand, you are the sheep. I'm sorry for you if you have a hard time coming to grips with that fact.
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>>81040693
Fisk and his entourage were great.
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>>81040772
Are you serious?
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DC movies are so bad they cause terrorism.
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>>81040772
consider suicide squad
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>>81040780
But Hal can't dogfight with proxy commies since the Cold War is over.
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>>81040796
>Obey me, my multi-ethnic crime syndicate!
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>>81040772

You
Are
A
Loser.
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>>81040734
Nothing bad about the premise, it has worked multiple times in comics and animated movies.

Just get out of here and stop pretending you know shit, /tv/fag
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I love all the little retards blaming Marvel for all of DC's problems. You all must have received participation trophies in school.
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>>81040693
>Loki
Even if you hate him, you are in denial if you think that there aren't a LOT of people who do
>yellow jacket
Don't tell me you don't love how over the top evil he is.
>Ward
Season 3, getting burgers for dinner.
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>>81040772
Calm down anon. It won't be a flop money wise- critically and quality wise though...

Just watch the animated movies instead.
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>>81040755
>>81040796
>Netflix
Fine. Not a single good villian in the entire slate of films.
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>>81040741

>So you managed to get yourself caught in the 3rd dimension. What's the next step in your master plan?
>MCGURK!
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>>81040830
Good point

I don't deny that some stuff would need to be changed, but none of them are really insurmountable.
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>>81040734
That's pretty much what happens everytime they first meet in comics, they start out with petty rivalry and then team up.
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>>81040741
>Actually, imagine if WB tried to apply Nolan-ism to Mister Mxyzptlk.
It wouldn't be difficult. There would be very depressing dream/nightmare sequences throughout the movie and only a vague implication that someone or something is behind them, rather than being brought on by stress. The main antagonist would be defeated by thematically "reversing" elements of the nightmares when confronted with the analogous real situation.
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>>81040832
>you will never have a black Wesley
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>>81040782

Someone who *actually* reads comics know that they're not eternal quip fests like the marvel movies. The mainstream view here is that comic book movies should be silly mini comedies of guys dressed in tights saving the world, we can't philosophical or political dilemmas or else it's "taking itself too seriously and being too dark"

It's how Aquaman has the stigma of being a whack hero cause "LOL HE TALKS TO FISH"
Marvel embrasses it's whackiness but DC doesn't, they're trying to with the SS movie.

But anyone who reads comics, actually reads them, both sides of the company knows that the mood in the DC universe is more grimdark than the one in the Marvel one. The DC heroes deal with much darker and bigger threats, and their heroes are much more powerful.
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>>81040693
Loki, fake Mandarin, Fisk

Loki is so liked that they will eventually make him an avenger in both the comics and the movies
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What DC is doing wrong is that they keep trying to push Superman when they should be doing it like Marvel and give him the Hulk treatment.
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The DCEU can go on, just give Zack Snyder the boot.
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All of these anons saying MCU is nothing but AOU le quip, did you completely forget Daredevil?

Marvel did gritty, violent capeshit better than DC on a much lower budget.
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>>81040847
I like Stane, but that's also because I like Jeff Bridges.
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>>81040781
>implying that BVS didn't recycle stuff from MoS
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>>81040734

Cool, so in other words, you haven't a clue why you think its a bad premise.

Next time why don't you try to actually put description behind an opinion you hold instead of repeating what you said. It shows that you clearly have no idea how to hold a conversation.
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>>81040619
>Lets have han solo fight luke skywalker
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>>81038631
>Dark Knight is a serious movie
If you're 12. No one past that age could take it even slightly seriously.
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>>81040688
Replace jet age tech with boom tube era tech, have similar social reactions to it.

>Boom tube test astronauts treated like rock stars
>in the background, there's ads for commercial boom tube travel
>batman is considered old fashion for using his batplane instead of a boom tube, to which he gives a very brooding grunt and mutter something about newfangled technology

Green Lantern originates from a boom tube test flight that accidentally interrupts a fight between a Green Lantern and one of Darksied's soldiers, setting the stage for the next movie.

Atlantis and the Amazon lands are being disrupted by this newfangled technology. Atlantis wants to go to war and tries to get the Amazons to help, but Amazons tell Aquaman to fuck off.

The Centre begins to stir due to the boom tube activity. Superman is called in to stop it and Lex Luthor is his human counterpart. Obvious rivalry between them, but for now it's John Henry vs. the Steam Drill. With Lex as John Henry, a working man who has to climb his way to greatness, so he's an anti-hero.

The Centre attacks Atlantis, who was about to invade the surface. Despite Atlantis's preparations, they get fucked. Cool action sequence for trailers, this lets you know how terrible the Centre is.

Amazons are next in line to get wrecked. Superheroes team up to stop them. Blah blah blah, dinosaur island mixed with The Thing, and afterwards the Justice League forms and boom tubes help construct the orbital tower. Then we get a scene of Darksied talking about how the humans have unknowingly open themselves up to the rest of the world, and they should be ready for the consequences. Evil laugh.

And end with Kennedy's new frontier during the credits while various scenes of the League working together play.
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>>81040905

Still haven't answered the question. You are misdirecting what I asked.
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>Snyder in charge of anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wP8sMb7ZA0
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>>81038327
>0:32 that shot before they added color fiters.
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>>81040839
>>>Loki
>Implying likable = good
He's literally mustache twirling Bond tier
>>yellow jacket
Who? You'll have to be more specific if you're talking about over the top evil MCU villains
>>Ward
I'd rather watch every Zack Snyder film on repeat than watch that AoS crap.
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>>81040890
> Literally the face of DC
> Hulk treatment
That's like giving Spidey or Cap the Hulk treatment.
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>>81038631
>>BvS is a 45 year old who still plays with his action figures, but pretends he's all Dark and Mature now.

fixed
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>>81040788
You are literally just asking people to spend money
>>
>tfw the Half in the Bag review probably won't drop until next week
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>>81038549
it's regardless you stupid bitch
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>>81040917
doesn't say much about the average person's intelligence, but people did take it seriously.
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>>81040895
>>81040895
>did you completely forget Daredevil?

The MCU movies have. They may as well be seperate universe at this point. Does the Netflix NY skyline even have Avengers tower?
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>>81038545
>Hell, maybe even Batman will lose some of it's status as a cultural icon - weirder things have happened

Even his new 52 run is going to shit. Maybe. Finally.
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>>81040956
Fuck.
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>>81040772
>WHAT THE FUCK WENT WRONG

Zack Snyder, he focused way too much on setting up JLA that he forgot to acknowledge BVS as it's own film.
Hey, at least it's got great action.
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>>81038085
Why are people surprised?!

Its Snyder, I truly don't understand this, he knows 3 things, fights, designs, and music. He is oblivious to story, plot, and character development, no one should be surprised this happened.
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>>81040917
Being serious and being taken seriously are two completely different things. The movie does have a serious tone. Whether you take it seriously or not is another thing entirely.
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>>81040901
You're confusing building off of for recycling.
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>>81040216
Have you seen the movie, anon?
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>>81040904
>Cool, so in other words, you haven't a clue why you think its a bad premise.
Playing the Moviefag's advocate, it's a ridiculously one sided fight and one that doesn't exactly make sense for them to engage in. They're both orphans who want to protect the weak and make the world a little less shitty. The stories where they team up are generally more compelling.
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>>81040772
My sympathies, be well, anon.
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>>81040883
>The DC heroes deal with much darker and bigger threats,

"threats" are the exact same thing on both companies

even the "power level" is similar because they both make heavy hitters job to nobodies on the team books in order to create tension
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>>81040883
I'm not the guy you were arguing with originally, just pointing out that you made it sound that comic book readers don't want entertaining comic books.

>But anyone who reads comics, actually reads them, both sides of the company knows that the mood in the DC universe is more grimdark than the one in the Marvel one. The DC heroes deal with much darker and bigger threats, and their heroes are much more powerful.
Eh, some DC products embrace silliness just fine, and a lot of Marvel takes itself seriously, it's just not what their main output is right now.
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>>81040987
/tv/ meme magicked people into thinking capekino was a real thing
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>>81038910
Yeah bro and Sam Hyde is funny!!!
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>>81039235
D I S N E Y A L W A Y S W I N S
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tbqh I mostly just listen to YouTube reviewers but when they are saying a comic book movie is 'meh' you bet your ass actual critics will be much more scathing.
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>>81040942
You do know that that video was proved and admitted by the guys who made it to be total bullshit right? They drained the color out of the film so it would look worse than it actually is.
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>>81038327
Who doesn't like Batman Forever?
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>>81038593
[Spoiler]Bury it. [/spoiler]
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>>81040955

Not necessarily, you could just as easily download the movie when it comes out on DVD. If not, you could borrow the movie from someone when it comes out.

I fail to see how that hinders my argument in this situation. The amount of time you people are taking to read a review and post of this website bawking about an opinion you may or may not agree with could be spent making that $10.
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>>81040895
>>81040961
This, and they've basically copied Arrow, but trying to avoid what Arrow did wrong (which isn't technically a bad thing because Arrow learned from its mistakes)
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>>81040948
iron-man is the face of the mcu. dc should just give up on supes and find something that they can make work.
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Why can't DC get their films right?
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>>81040945
Fanboy conferned.

I didn't say Loki was good, I just said that he was more likable. But yeah, he is better than add the DC villains so far.

Also, this proof you didn't watch Ant Man.

The sooner you accept that DC doesn't care about it's fans the better.
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>>81039618
Maybe normies wont, most of them never give a shit and have shit taste, but any person that like capeshit movies and comics even the semi-normies that are fans of marvel movies care about this
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>>81040254
That pasta had me dying. Saw that one on at thread last night. BvS is the most fun I've had in years and I haven't even seen it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avxtbfRHnn0
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>>81040216
>>But critics eat quips and humor up.

Hardly. Serious critics are increasingly bored by the cookie-cutter Marvel formula.

Yet, Marvel succeeds in making fundamentally entertaining movies. They may not be knocking it out of the park with every single movie (Thor 2, IM3, Avengers 2) but they're still getting it right (Ant-Man, GotG).

Marvel / Disney had a plan and a formula and have refined their formula over the years. DC is playing catchup / copycat and, well, we'll see what their gross is in a week or two. But if it's only a moderate take, that'll count as a bomb, and heads will roll.
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>>81041014
>and a lot of Marvel takes itself seriousl
name a single on-going?
>awesome facial hair bros
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>>81041058
Making that 10 dollars to buy a ticket to your movie Mr. Snyder?
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>>81040990
Well, they recycled the same mistakes and built off them to make new ones.
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>>81040973
Tones get re-set all the time. "Quipfests" weren't the status quo of cape movies before the MCU came to full force (so post-Nolan), a good dark and serious cape movie could conceivably be well received.
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>>81039036
>Jessica Jones is 93%
RT is shit.
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>>81039976
so who won btw?
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>>81038549
Irregardless is not a word you dipshit.
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>>81041073
>faggot conferned
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I am 100% positive that WB is going to make everyone fall on their swords and take blame in order to salvage Gal Gadot and Wonder Woman. Despite being just as awful as everyone else involved in the movie, she is going to come out clean.
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>>81041007

> it's a ridiculously one sided fight and one that doesn't exactly make sense for them to engage in.

Lux Luther has been fighting Superman for over 70 years. I fail to see much of a difference. Both are geniuses, both have an almost indispensable amount of money. Really the only difference is Lex has less experience than Batman in fighting. I'm still failing to see your point.

>The stories where they team up are generally more compelling.

I haven't seen the movie so I can't comment on the quality of the story. I'm about 99.9% sure you haven't ether, so I'm still failing to see your point.
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>>81040832
Is this a criticism?
He's the Kingpin bro, he doesn't only control crime within a single ethnicity
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>>81041012
>the "power level" is similar

No it isn't. The Justice League is more powerful than The Avengers, and I'm not even saying this to start a dumb console wars argument. Ironman doesn't even have a proper rogue's gallery.
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>>81041070

They don't get what made their heroes popular in the first place. When people see Superman they should feel immense relief, be sure that everything is going to be alright because the Man of Steel is there to save them and when the threat is stopped he will fly down and ask if you're alright with an assuring smile. Instead Superman is depressed and everyone is shit scared of him. They fucked this up. They fucked this up big
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people wanted just another happy fun time quipfest of a film, instead they got a deep dark existential drama

based snyder BTFOing plebs left and right
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>>81040693
Pierce
Loki
Yellowjacket
Fisk

What Marvel really needs is a female villain for once.
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>>81041114
batman
because he is still alive at the end of the movie.
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>>81041092
>name a single on-going?
its like you missed the entire 2008-2015 era

right now the books that take themselves most seriously in marvel are shit like Whor and International BendisMan, and both arent very good. the general tone is lighter atm (expect that to change once CW2 hits in a couple months)
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DC oughtta stick with TV and animation.
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>>81040772
Seeing people like you makes me realize that my life isn't bad enough to consider suicide. Thank you you random retard on the internet.
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>>81041097

Failing to come up with a compelling argument Mr. Nobody?
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You guys don't get it, this is on the same level of Transformers. The mass will eat it up like fastandfurious and adam sandler movies. It doesn't matter if critics don't like it. It'll sell, it'll sell enough, and we will get years upon years of these shitfest. Zack Snyder is directing BOTH Justice League films.
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>>81041092
>on-going
Don't currently read anything desu. I imagine if there's a Punisher ongoing or something similar.
>it's just not what their main output is right now.
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>>81041214
Argument to what my man? All I said was that you guys that defend this terrible shit you've allowed to give your life meaning are sheep
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>Some purple faced villain is about to annihilate an entire planet
>DANCE OFF BRO is enough to distract him from his plans
>This is what people want comic book movies to be like from now till forever cause "LOL IT WAS SO FUN THOUGH BRO"
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>>81040755
>Boregrave
>good
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>>81041200
>its like you missed the entire 2008-2015 era
No I didn't. That's why I said on-going.
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>>81041218
Plz no.
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>>81041218

Might as well get Michael Bay to direct
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>>81041249
Any cape movie that is not like that is confirmed objective shit.
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>>81040681
Apology accepted, anon. That is very gracious of you. I'm sorry for insinuating you are a company wars guy.
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>>81041069
>iron-man is the face of the mcu
Not for long.
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>>81041180
Everybody's "power level" is whatever the editor's and writer's decide it is according to the story they are trying to tell in both companies. You have one book where start shields himself and his group from 3 nuclear missiles and quips about it like its nothing, then you have another book where some shitty ninja destroys his armor.

In DC you suddenly have some shitty villiain that gets spanking by Black Canary fucking up the JL because a writer decided to give him a makeover.

Its the same
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>>81041067
And yet relationship drama continues to drive the show and ruin characters.
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>>81041249
Man even my fine arts professor said it was the characters that made the movie great and that the plot was not something to watch the movie for. You pick a part a small divisive (on /co/) scene to shit on GOTG when with BVS you could use any scene to show off its failures.
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>>81041294

IF I put that on my resume can I get a hot shot job as a Hollywood film critic?
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>>81038198
>"I hope for adaptations of shit quality even though other people enjoy the good ones and I can just not see them and can hide threads about them"

You sound like a bitter faggot
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>>81041238


>All I said was that you guys that defend this terrible shit you've allowed to give your life meaning are sheep

I haven't made a post yet that has actually defended it. My post could have easily been about any new movie. I'm sick and tired of seeing the exact same thread on this board about how much a movie that they haven't even see sucks.

It takes a child to have an opinion about something subjective that they have not experienced first hand.
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>>81041333
>the plot was not something to watch the movie for.
Then it's a failure of a movie.
>my fine arts professor
Oh. Just bait.
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>>81041188
>What Marvel really needs is a female villain for once.

Teen Jean is the worst fem villian in the MU
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I feel it's necessary to coin a new fallacy regarding this movie and its critical reception.

>argumentum ad quipum
>the argument that because a movie is less humorous than another movie, it has more merit
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>>81040772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiZNSzWIaLo

It sucks bro, I know. Remember though, great father say it can't rain everyday
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>DC Extended Univers
>http://www.rottentomatoes.com/franchise/dc-comics/

This whole fucking page is just embarrassing. I'm also reminded that we're getting another Green lantern movie in 2020, and its only been five years since the last one. DC just keeps treading on, trying their hardest that they're only turning into one gigantic joke.
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>>81038198
Marvel can do no wrong. Avengers 2 was bad, but got good reviews. Absolute vomit like Thor 2 gets pretty good reviews.

The new Xmen have been mediocre but show no signs of letting up, either.

BvS is probably balls, but people will still watch it because Batman is in it. The poor reviews might stop it from being really profitable though, but I'm sure merchandising will save it enough for them to crank out more.

These movies are meant for teenagers. Once they grow old enough to get sick of them, a new batch of teens take their place. Capeshit flicks have been popular forever. It feels like they are just a staple at this point and are never going away. Producers have just realized the Bond formula can be applied to anything and you can release Star Wars or Capes or whatever indefinitely and people will come.
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>>81041341
>Being this salty.

It's okay to be disappointed anon.
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>>81041188
We're getting Hela in the next Thor
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>>81041373
I know I just wanted to bring him up cause I know /co/ would love him. Asked if any of us ever watched the gargoyles cartoon.
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>>81041373
Every plot that has been done has. If you watch movies for plot you are literally an autistic shitbag.
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>>81041373
>Then it's a failure of a movie.
Not really. A movie with an unimpressive plot can redeem itself with enjoyable characters.
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>>81041249
How the fuck is it not?
Seriously. You're playing the maturity and legitimacy card to defend a Zack Snyder movie?

Serious doesn't mean good. The dance-off is good because it's unexpected and inventive and in character. It's also a trope subversion from the 'focus your power to defeat the vilain' cliche, where the main characters humanity -the very thing that separates him from the rest of the cast as established throughout the movie- and capacity to be self-aware in his defenselessness against certain doom, and breaks a dance to distract.

It's a million times more clever than anything Snyder has touched or understood in his entire life, but just because reddit and 9gag made it a meme, you think it sucks. GotG followed exactly 0 memes, it was just a memorable and quotable movie.

Levity in the face of universal bleakness is a way to display hope that we're more than our muscles and brains, but our hearts and creativity define us as a species. THAT, and the underestimation thereof from Ronin's part is why it's a good ending. That is what Snyder can't see or do - make his movie feel human.
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>>81041285
>>81041218
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>>81041188
Just wait till they lazily make a fan favorite villain into a female. And because it's Marvel, they might make it into a tranny.
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>>81041333

>Plot was not something to watch the movie for
>A professor said this

You sure you're not getting cheated out of your money?

I've only watched the movie once, and I remember Ronan told Thanos to fuck off, which was a ballsy move, with Thanos meant to be the biggest bad bad that all the heroes are meant to fight in the end, but this guy got distracted by "Dance off Bro" In fact if I go type "Guardians of the galaxy" into google, the number 1 suggestion is for that scene, so how can any one minded individual say Marvel movies haven't set a precedent for what comic book movies "ought" to be like?
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>>81041395
>its only been five years since the last one
So 10 years. How long since the last Spider-man?
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>>81041427
One hack of a man shouldn't have this much power.
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I'm sorry DC fans

I mean that sincerely, I'm truly sorry that these big screen adaptations of classic and beloved characters are so flawed. Seriously we've had Ant-Man and Deadpool movies that felt true to the characters. It's the age of the superhero blockbuster. Why the fuck does WB keep shitting the bed with the most iconic characters?

At least we still have the Flash TV series, as well as Legends of Tomorrow. At least we still have the first two Burton Batman movies. At least we still have the Adam West Batman TV show for batshit Silver Age shenanigans. At least the first two Donner Superman films are a nice Bronze Age snapshot. At least the Nolan films, flawed as they were, rooted the Batman character in a much more realistic world and exposed him to millions of new fans. At least we still have the brilliant cartoon universe that began with the Batman animated series in the 90s...

Not a console war kiddie, just disappointed that WB keeps shooting itself in the foot.
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>>81041453

>all the heroes are meant to fight in the end

Anybody feel like Thanos has been robbed of his standing because he is no longer the end game? I'm sure when the MCU started they saw Thanos as being the end but now that we know he isn't does he really matter anymore?
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>>81040772
Meh. I'm just happy Star Wars is good again. Batman and Superman will get rebooted soon enough. Or they'll get movies made by entirely different people and be great.
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>>81041423

Is your spine alright from all the backflips and bending backwards you had to do to defend that scene?

I haven't mentioned Zack anywhere in my posts btw.
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>>81041547
>Star wars is good again
stop
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>>81041453
>Google search a movie
>It recommends you a scene from that movie
>This proves Marvel has set a precedent for what comic book movies should be

I don't follow.
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>>81041547

The latter is more likely
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>>81041453
>>81041249
>criticizing James Gunn and defending Zack Snyder.
>The only critically acclaimed movie Zack Snyder has put out has been written by Gunn.
At least try harder.
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>>81041573
No /tv/.
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>>81041453
Shit I can't find my notes but he was using characters in GOTG over it's plot to describe some old greek way of defining the importance of story elements, and iirc character was above plot.
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>>81041512
Depending on which version of Thanos we get

Giffen Thanos can be used as a plot device to drive a bunch of changes and recasts into the MCU since they can use him to kill Iron Man and the like.

80/90s Thanos would be just a warm up for something else.
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>>81041547
>I'm just happy Star Wars is good again.
As a Star Wars fan I wish I could hate you to death.
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>>81041593
imdb is edited by users, not studios, anon.
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>>81041573
Rey is 10/10

deal with it
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>>81041625
>80/90s Thanos would be just a warm up for something else.
>10 years of build up for "The bigger threat is in another castle"

Marvel can die in a fire if they do that
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>>81041582

It recommending that scene as the number 1 option means that it's what most people were interested in about the damn thing.

They didn't care about Ronan or what his plans were cause at the end of the day, the day is gonna be saved by some guy doing a dance-off. It was a shoe-horned quip scene and people think *all* comic book movies should be fun quip-fests.

All movies Marvel releases are comedies, you can literally hear the laugh track every time a line is delivered.
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>>81041249
>>81041453
>Getting Triggerd by a Comedy
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>>81041423
This guy gets it.
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>>81041654
Ep VII would actually be pretty good if not for that insufferable cunt
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>>81041605

Where did I mention anything about directors? Maybe you ought to try harder in your reading classes.
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>>81041635
Wow, you're a fan of Star Wars too? As a Star Wars fan I hope you get AIDS.
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>>81041617
Classical highschool student here, i think i get what your prof meant. To make an easy example, in old greek tragedies it was almost taboo to show a character dying/getting killed, the action itself was to be implied but never shown, and in the next scene another character (or the chorus) would announce the death so that the story could continue through the reaction of the rest of the cast
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>>81041453
So because kiddies liked that scene that is what gotg was about? And it also somehow sets the standard for all of MCU? There are still differences in mood and tone between most of the Marvel flicks..Something like that would not be inserted in a Captain America movie.

I personally remember the more heartfelt scenes with Quill and his mother.
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>>81041423
I like this human he understands
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>>81041625
No matter what it's going to be bitchmade Thanos who's only doing it to impress Death, and they'll make some love story out of it.
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>>81041635
Your tears are delicious. Feed them to me.
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>>81041617
He sounds like a fucking hack.
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>>81041788
Fun = bad
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>>81039265
HELLO RATTO
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>>81040254

Literally NO ONE is stopping you from seeing the movie yourself and deciding whether it's good or bad. Word of mouth can go a long way. Look at GotG, Frozen, and Ant-Man. These movies have little to no advertising, but they exceeded expectations because they were good movies, and people promoted it.

Besides, it's not just RT who's giving it a lackluster review.
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>>81041788
GotG was both fun and good...but hey, to each their own.
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>>81041817
I didn't say that. It's bad because for a whole host of other reasons. It's bad yet fun movie....but it' still bad.
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>>81041765
>There are still differences in mood and tone between most of the Marvel flicks

>Most of Iron Man 2
>The entirety of Iron Man 3
>Thor 2
>Ant-Man
>GoTG
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>>81041423

Well put.
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>>81039976
>forbes
>not a shill
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I loved LOVED Watchman but MoS was a dull blur. If it is less like Watchmen and more like MoS I'm finally through with The Snyder. I think critics and even most of you guys part of LeNerd culture are absolutely retarded and hypocritical about so many things, so I'll need to see this myself.
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>>81041794
It's probably he's teaching and directing great films despite "muh knowledge" on how stories are made
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>>81041788
>Hating GOTG

Your a very special snowflake anon
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>>81041852
You said so. I saw it.
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>>81041843
not that guy but i've saved $440 to spend on BvS tickets just to support DC and Snyder
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>>81041678
It just means it's the number 1 scene most people want to rewatch. It doesn't mean anything else. I agree when you say Marvel movies are essentially comedies but the masses are also perfectly capable of accepting and enjoying other types of comic book movies. TDKR came out mere months after the Avengers and it was very well received by both critics and audiences. The X-Men movies take themselves seriously as well and nobody complains about it. The Daredevil TV show is mostly serious and people are loving it.

Nobody wants ALL comic book movies to be primarily about humor, they just want to be engaged. Humor can engage you if you find it funny. Seriousness can engage you if you find it compelling. DC doesn't need to make comedies, they need to get their shit together and make a movie that doesn't suck.
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>>81041788
>BvS may not be a good film but neither is GoG.
Wow, now that is what I call insecure.
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>>81041788

Your average Snyder fan, ladies and gentlemen.
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>>81041911
I don't hate it. It's just not very good and over rated as fuck. same with Winter Soldier
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>>81040772
>Believing the Disney shilled reviews

Kill yourself, my man
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>>81041975
??? I think Snyders a fucking hack.
>don't cum buckets over guardians of cringe
>must love snyder
I can hate both
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>>81041788
The difference is GOTG wasn't trying to sell itself as capekino, it wasn't pretending to be deep or more than it was - a lighthearted comedy in space.

WB/DC's main problem is their movies are pretentious. They read like a teenager's idea of what makes something 'mature'.
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They will not let him direct JL. What's the point of seeing literally whos teaming up with the Trinity when they couldn't even get the Trinity teaming up right? If people see it either way due to brand recognition then why not hire a safe bet like Miller?
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>>81042014
Nope.
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>>81041938

Please stop bringing in Daredevil into this because it's not being offered on the same platform. TDKR getting good reviews hinges on the fact that people loved TDK which came out at a time when superhero movies weren't comedy fests so people were able to appreciate it for what it was instead of comparing it to "THESE FUNNY MARVEL MOVIES MANG"

>DC doesn't need to make comedies, they need to get their shit together and make a movie that doesn't suck.

Yes they don't and it's very daunting that I can't read a """"""""""""""""top"""""""""" critic review that references Marvel movies as a benchmark in some shape or form.
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>>81042027
So because it didn't sell itself as good that makes it better? So Zoolander 2 is the best film of the year so far?
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Ayer will save the DCEU

After his SS gets rave reviews and makes 1.8 billion he will be hired to make a New Gods movie to replace the delayed JL and it will be GOAT.
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>>81042112
No I'm talking about what the movie is, which is a pretentious turd.
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>You have destroyed my people, now, I have no people
>HEY ZOD DANCE OFF BRO
>What are you doing?
>DISTRACTING YOU BRO I GREW UP ON A FARM
>Zod gets taken down with the power of love and unity

>1 hour later on RT...MoS pushed into uncharted territory with this master piece, the pacing was handled elegantly, characters wonderfully fleshed out and a wonderful overarching message of bravery and heroism. 10/10.
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I feel Ben is seething over this. He's going to hurt Snyder. And he will get away with it too because he's the Batman where Snyder is a fucking tumor on WBs ass begging to get cut.
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>>81041788
Dude, Snyder and DC need to learn how to do some comedy. Like something along the lines of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFtp3GkwNPg

Or this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWVdv4Qalcg

Or this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8exSQXhCAE

Or hell, even the scene seen in the gif would make more helpful writing.

I know these are video game examples, but they would work far better.
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>>81042226
>so much fun 10/10
>had a blast 9.5/10
>smiling the whole time 10/10
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>>81042112
No it sold itself as what it was. It wasn't pretending to be more than a comedy cape flick. DC tries to bait audiences by advertising their movies as 'deep' and meaningful, mature and way more serious than that silly Marvel stuff! Which would be all good if they could manage to make just one good movie with that premise. .
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Why did the mods delete >>81041750?


> 'Batman v Superman' is a complete trainwreck, and director Zack Snyder is to blame
>http://www.businessinsider.com/batman-v-superman-is-a-trainwreck-2016-3

>With the recent negative reception to Zack Snyder's direction on such a huge movie, do you think Warner Brothers will realize what an albatross he is and get rid of him?
>I'd love to see a DC movie without Hack Snyder's grubby hands all over it.
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>>81042226
That would have made the movie better.
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>>81042226
I'd love the fuck out of that though

>Clark applying Kryptonian Dance methods he studied at the Fortress to cause vibrations in the fabric of reality to reopen the Phantom Zone again for a split second

Pure fucking genius
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>>81042226

kek

Snyder spend like 40 mins giving us an introduction to Zod and humanizing him a bit, by showing his he has a legitimate gripe and wants to save his people, his way, however, is nihilistic. There is a reason Supes' "logo" is equated with hope.

The payoff from that later would have been to have Superman convince Zod that the future of their race laid within them AND their relationship to humanity, to make him see they are both "hope" to prevent what happened to his planet to ever happen again.

But Snyder had him just break his neck basically making those 40 mins pointless. If this is what you are defending, you are retarded.
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>>81042328
I bet you love BnR and The Room you piece of fucking trash
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>>81042370
Still higher rated than BVS,
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>>81042226
>/tv/'s attempt at an ebin new meme backfiring this hard.
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>>81042360

He already trying doing that but Zod wasn't having any of it you dummy.
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>>81042283

The problem with Snyder is that he knows how to make a visually interesting movie, but really doesn't know how to make a character like Superman interesting without clunky dialogue about how godlike and important they are.

I swear to God if there's any more ham-fisted Christ imagery in BVS I think my head might explode.
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>>81042423

>Any post I don't like is from /tv/
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>>81042466
>He already trying doing that but Zod wasn't having any of it you dummy.

Then why show us that Zod was a respected ally to his dad? Why show us that while driven to "evil" extremes due to desperation, he wasn't inherently bad? This means there is a shot at redemption. To make his death work, we needed to be convinced Zod was beyond any form of intervention. Personally i wasn't convinced because of the prologue itself.
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>>81042466
Are you blaming Zod on the poor writing? What's wrong with you?
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>>81042239
Dunno, I think it should be financially fine just because name recognition and because they're holding the DCEU hostage with it, also basically every review has said Batfleck was awesome so at the very least he's making it out of the negativity just fine.
I might go see it, relatives are already and I want to see how they're setting up Bats's solo stuff since at least that seems to be alright, really need to figure out what the thing with Bats killing is about, another review I just watched didn't seem to think Bats actually kills, maybe they weren't paying attention or something? Or are the guns and explosions filled with rubber, stupid as that sounds.
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>>81042328
Pure Morrison, utter kino.
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>>81042652
>The Invisibles had Dane and Fanny dance to win over the Harlequinade's trust

It IS something Morrison would do
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>>81042310
Can't say anything negative, bro
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>>81042360
See, but Zack Snyder's vision of superheroes is the antithesis of hope. Every single movie he's made reflects an almost bizarre disaffection with humanity juxtaposed with exaggerated displays of violence.

I think he actually hates the idea of the moral superhero and thinks a more honest interpretation is aloof sadism in funny costumes. Like a completely unironic Super.
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>>81042735
He even said he made Superman kill because it's something Superman wouldn't do. He hates capes. He resents the source material.
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>>81042735
Homelander movie when?
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>>81042735
What i just don't get is why they set up Zod as a redeemable antagonist just to not redeem him.

Why equate Superman both with the concept of hope and a jesus-like figure just to have him kill someone in the end. It makes no sense.
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>>81038085
don't talk to me or my wife's son again
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>>81042826
I think it's part of Snyder's anti-religious sentiment. He seems like a tipper.
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>>81038085
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>>81041373

Character is king.

A movie could be literally about nothing meaningful, and still be good if the characters are well written and compelling.
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>>81041503
>Seriously we've had Ant-Man and Deadpool movies

But Ant-Man
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>>81042920
thats the entire premise of seinfield
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>>81043051
You haven't even watched it yet you fucking drone
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>>81042733
What! Really?
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>>81042826
To show that Hope is bullshit, and heroes fail

>We wanted you to learn what it meant to be human first so that one day, when the time was right, you could be the bridge between two peoples.
>You can save her, Kal. You can save all of them

Is followed by

>Krypton had it's chance
>*necksnap* NNNNNAAAAAAAAHHHH!

A movie about hope whose ultimate message is that people's hopes are not going to be lived up to. It's actually an incredibly cynical movie.
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>>81042826
The easy and most likely answer is that he's incompetent and doesn't realize the tonal disparity hurts any message he may have been trying to get across about the necessity of violence. Putting the blatant Jesus imagery in stark opposition to the senseless destruction invalidates much of the point of both.

The more chilling answer would be that Snyder intended to make you hate the apparent contradiction Superman represents between moral fortitude and infinite power and instead embrace the nietzschean virtue of Superman's arbitrary physical superiority. It doesn't matter if what he does is right, he's fucking Superman and nobody can stop him.

I don't put much stock into the latter theory, but I feel Snyder inadvertently represents the most transparent admiration of many superheroes' nascent fascism, and he likes to play up that mixture of hero complex and persecution complex in every movie he makes because it satisfies a sort of primal egotistical drive to rally around martyrs and demagogues.
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>>81042826
see
>>81043166
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>>81041788
>this joke is you
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>>81042467

Supes is pierced by a kryptonite spear, and sacrifices himself to kill Doomsday. Funeral is had. His resurrection is implied.
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>>81043173
>The more chilling answer would be that Snyder intended to make you hate the apparent contradiction Superman represents between moral fortitude and infinite power and instead embrace the nietzschean virtue of Superman's arbitrary physical superiority. It doesn't matter if what he does is right, he's fucking Superman and nobody can stop him.

That would basically make him Fletcher Hanks' Stardust the Super Wizard.
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>>81038085
>IMDb has 8.2
What? Isn't IMDb usually lower than rotten tomatoes?
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Well, maybe I'll still enjoy the fight scenes.
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>>81042226
I would unironically have preferred that to the necksnap.
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>>81043399
Why did you post this webm of Snape killing Dumbledore?
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>>81043295
Given MoS ends with Supes giving a middle finger to any means of public accountability by crashing monitoring satellites in front of a military general in a display of terrifying force while a female soldier has a small orgasm, it's more likely than I'd like to believe.
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>>81043334

this screen cap was for yesterday, but look at the fucked up distribution curve

its all shill accounts reviewing 10's and 1's
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>>81043173
Holy shit, it really IS genius!
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>>81043173
>he likes to play up that mixture of hero complex and persecution complex in every movie he makes because it satisfies a sort of primal egotistical drive to rally around martyrs and demagogues.

I feel that if he made an original super hero IP with this take overtly on it, it would be very good.

Just not Superman tho.
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>>81043603
That's what Suckerpunch is. It sucked.
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>>81042735

It isn't an anti-thesis of hope, it's just about individualism.

Jor-El gave a middle finger to his society and did what he thought he should, and that's alright. It's his choice.
Jonathan Kent only worried about his son well-being, and despite saying that the ultimate choice had to come from his son about his own life he forbad his son to act in order save him. Because that was Jonathan's choice.
Clark grew up obeying Jonathan and later heard from Ghost Jor-El all that shit about hope. Clark tried to follow both Jonathan and Jor-El throughout the movie, but in the end his forced to act on his own. If it was for Jonathan, Clark would never exposed himself, and if it was for Jor-El, Clark would forge a alliance between humans and kryptonians, but that wasn't Clark's choice. Clark exposed himself and just wanted to end the kryptonians.

So... yeah. Man of Steel is about individualism. About YOUR choice mattering more than anything else, consequences be damned. That's why the villains in the movies were programmed soldiers.
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I hope we live in the universe where Suicide Squad is so great that it ends up with a trilogy of good movies.
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>>81040582
>>81040546
Yeah.. I'm sure it's a crappy movie, but there have been some real fucking bad superhero movies over the years.

Like, the worst ever means being worse than Catwoman. Or fucking Steel. Is this movie worse than a movie starring fucking Shaquille O'Neal leveraging his basketball superstar status into a film career?
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>there will never be a live action Batman vs Owlman film
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>>81043737
This all sounds good on paper but not in execution.
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>>81043841

It is also a terrible premise for a Superman movie. Think about it.
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>>81043737
I don't really buy it. If it was about choice, damn the consequences, there wouldn't be such a deliberate fatalism in the narrative regarding Clark's role as Superman.

Or maybe it was about self-determination, but the strength of the theme got lost in the rewrites and muddled editing, like the hundreds of other core themes MoS apparently had.
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>>81043855
I disagree. I'd pay to see a Superman about Clark being a literal Nietzsche Superman if it wasn't a disjointed mess with plot, pacing, and characterization inconsistencies.
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>>81043887

The fatalism is there because Superman doesn't want to grow up, doesn't want to face the world and act on his choices. He's still a scared little child looking for someone to follow, looking for an easy way out.

That's what Jonathan's death scene is all about. Clark should had act, but he didn't, he cried his little bitch tears and watched his dad die because it was easier to follow commands than to do his thing, and he kept following his father command all his life. The whole movie you've people telling Superman what he should do with Superman following.
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