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>Rotten tomatoes
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>>81018210
They did that all ready with Captain America 2.
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>>81018210
>Big dumb punchy film is secretly good because YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Oh I love this. Please keep melting down further. This is the best week

>Philosophical political drama
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>>81018210
>@justice.league.memes

Please tell me this is bait
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>>81018210
>damage control
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Captain America 2 did it better.
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>>81018223

Nobody see Captain america 2.

So, it fell under the radar.
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>Here's a philosophical political drama

>Here's a 70's political thriller

LOL
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>>81018210
>Go to see a philosophical political drama that explores mankind's need for hope and the dangers of absolute power
>it's a capeshit
>two grown men refuse to sit down and talk things out for 3 hours
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Films aren't video games, if you want to explore these themes you can make proper movies about it.
Fucking Superman and Batman shouldn't be that venue.
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This place is just going to be shitpost central for the rest of the month isn't it?
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>>81018262
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God forbid you enjoy yourself in a movie without someone jerking their politics off in your face.
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>>81018287
>month
Try year.
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>>81018307
>Just turn your brain off!
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>>81018287
If things are like MOS...it will be 3 years.

Thing is, this will be much WORSE because it had bigger stakes and Civil War coming.

I'm out of this board tomorrow, for a long time.
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>when they don't understand RT.
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>>81018287
>the rest of the month
Bad news, anon:
a month and a half
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A talented writer can also make that entertaining.
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>>81018210
That's funny, because even the positive reviews point out the "philosophical political drama" is barely explored and that ultimately this is a just a movie of big guys punching each other
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>>81018342
>>81018317
>4 more years of Man of Murder
One of these days we will get mods.
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>>81018210
>even fucking casuals are going into full damage-control mode

Did MoS's reviews get people this riled up?
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>>81018262
>Nobody see Captain america 2.
Please do go on. Nobody saw GotG either right?
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The one thing that the critics seem to agree on even the positive ones besides Batfleck being the best part is that the philosophical drama and all that shit is heavy-handed and not done well at all
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>>81018381

Let be frank, A-lot movies happen in that year.

It is like the frozen of the marvel movie.
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If theatrical's a mess, I wonder how the extended DVD release will be.
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I'm still seeing it. Twice. So are you.
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The RT scores are a sad indication of the damage Marvel films have done to to the way we culturally perceive superheroes. Critics see something as grand in its ambitions, scope and philosophical scale, and are reviewing it based on how good a Marvel quip-em-up family film it is instead of how good a drama it is.

The bad reviews are happening for one reason, and one reason only. Film critics who have been conditioned to not take comic book movies seriously by Marvel's outings are seeing this film fail to be a Marvel film and lambasting it under the false assumption that's what it's trying to be and failing to give it a chance as a film that uses pop culture icons to explore questions about human nature.

/co/ can laugh it up now over RT scores. Marvel fans tend to live in the moment, the now, and give little concern to the implications of the things they indulge in. Mark my words, in ten years time this film will be remembered as one of the most critically misunderstood films of the decade, and it's reassessments will be marked by regret over how little its direction was understood.
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>Complains that 2 and a half hours is too long for a movie.
>Binges 5 episode of Daredevil in one sitting.
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>>81018496
>grand in its ambitions, scope and philosophical scale

Holy shit my sides
Your not as smart as you think you are kid
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>>81018496
I'm saving this one.
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>>81018496
THE CRINGE IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE THREAD
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>>81018487
Yeah, probably.
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When have DC comics ever been fun? The whole DC universe looks like a horrible place to live, so I'm somewhat shocked when fan boys hate on it for not being quipy and sunshiney as Marvel.
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>>81018262
Oh good God....
I haven't seen BvS, but I can guaran-fucking-tee it'll be nowhere near as entertaining as all the damage control I've seen since yesterday afternoon.
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>>81018487
I'll rent it for 5 bucks.
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>>81018496
Go to bed, Zack. The difference between Marvel's movies and this isn't that those are family films and this is deep and philosophical. The difference is that those are written and directed by people who don't actively hate caped superheroes and would rather be working on something else.
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>>81018487
Yes, but only because I have two different groups of friends

>>81018496
>Critics see something as grand in its ambitions, scope and philosophical scale
The problem is that it does not deliver on this

You can be as grand and ambitious as you want but if you're just a shallow piece of shit pretending to be deep, you're going to be judged more critically
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>>81018496
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>>81018611
Ban all users under 25 already.
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>>81018496
I hope it's satire. I'm really sad that people who think capes are deep exist.

If you think DC is better then Marvel, this means capeshit is not something you watch to relax while being able to consume better fiction if you are in the mood. It means it's your intellectual celling - big guys punching each other.
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>>81018537
TV shows=movies obviously
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>>81018487
I might see it once in the middle of april after everything has died down, but I'm gonna see it for free no matter what so it's not like I'm gonna affect ticket sales.
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>>81018614
That makes absolutely no sense at all.
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> A popcorn film - and this is a popcorn film - should never feel like Sunday night homework.

Literally, too dense for normies.
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>>81018487

I'm seeing it multiple times. I'm just not paying for it.
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>>81018210
>>81018496
MORE OF THIS

The butthurt is absolutely delicious.
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>People acting like B v S is some Beasts of No Nations-esque drama about the nature of man

Fucking Zootopia is a more socially relevant film than B v S. And that has a shit load of colorful scenes and fun events in it.
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TWS Guardians and MoS were the best comic movies yet. avengers 1 and 2 were soft. excited for bvs and civil war. dp wwas tough shit too
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>>81018687
Special snowflake confirmed
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>>81018688
>no boobs in that doujinshi

Cocktease bs.
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>>81018374

Nah, now it's Bat of Murder.
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>>81018334
And there's nothing wrong with that. Not everything has to be politicized and meaningful. Especially a god damn cale movie.
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>>81018496
The thing is DC tries and fails.
Marvel doesn't even need to try at this point, which is sad.
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>>81018487
I haven't seen MoS and I'm sure as shit not seeing this
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>>81018695
Batman Begins, Spiderman 2, TWS, TDK and Iron Man are the best comic movies yet.

Guardians and MoS were meh.
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I don't give a flying fuck about rotten tomatoes
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>A philosophical drama that explores mankind;s need for hope and the dangers of absolute power
>Reports stating that Lex Luthor's most villainous deed is peeing in someones drink

What a deep and thought provoking film!
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OP, phrases like "philosophical political drama" and "exploring mankind's need for hope" and "exploring the dangers of absolute power" are completely meaningless.

Every story dealing with Superman can be said to be those things. The fact that it "explores" them doesn't mean it explores them well, or in an interesting way, or in any meaningful way.

The Smurfs explores agrarian communism, y'know? Doesn't mean it provides insights or a new or interesting take on the subject.
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>>81018735

How do you even live your life?
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>>81018233
Lol. This.
>Damage Control: The Thread
Countless other movies can tell a philosophical drama that is enjoyable that is rated well. When Snyder does it though, there is a condpiracy and/or a problem with the system when it is reviewed badly. There is no way it is just a bad movie made by a talentless hack. No sir, no way!
Christ, get off of the manlet's dick already. It's going to be amazing how many people continue to defend him after WB boots him, and the new director's first DC movie is certified fresh.
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>>81018735
I watched MoS and that's why I'm not watching this. So good call, I guess.
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>>81018726
>And there's nothing wrong with that.
There is when "turn your brain off" capeflicks become the norm. People like you are the reason why we can only have animation aimed at children. Cartoons can only be profitable if they are comedies aimed at children, because otherwise no one would care. Same deal here.
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>>81018726
Okay so then what is it?

What is BvS then? Is it a no-brainer cape flick you need to turn your brain off to enjoy or is it a deep political analysis using two heroes to tell a message? Is it about Batman and Superman with some heroes or does it need to set up the JL movie? Is a movie about these heroes or is it breaking them down? It can't be fucking both. It would just be a clusterfuck, and DC has been going back and forth on what this movie should be perceived as and that hurts it.
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>>81018334
*kale
>ftfy
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>>81018210
Civil War will be both of those things, just saying
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>>81018735
Why are you even here you stupid cocksucker?
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>>81018496
This is bullshit. Chronicles is a superhero film and it's taken very seriously by critics. It's "Man of Murder" done right.

In fact, go watch Chronicles. It's one of the best superhero films to come out, ever.
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>>81018496
>DC puts out its 4th boring, miserable, 2deep4u shit movie in a row
>once again it's everyone else's fault that it's shit and DC isn't to blame
How much do you hate your own life?
A lot, right?
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>>81018365
This this is what's amazing. You guys are free to ignore the negative reviews if you want to claim they're biased or shills or whatever but even the ones that say the movie is good are resigned as hell about it.

My personal favorite is the positive review that essentially went "Well that happened."
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>>81018787
Why do you want cartoons aimed at adults? Are you too autisitic to watch live-action?
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None of you have even seen the movie.
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>>81018496
>A bloo bloo bloo Drama is dead
Sweet copypasta.
People would love serious capes. Just not from a shit director. It's not our fault you bet on a horse with a gimpy leg.
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>>81018487
I'm definitely gonna see it once so I can adequately shitpost about it, but twice?

Fuck that
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>>81018807
It's called Chronicle, dipshit. And no. Found footage films are a gimmick to make up for a lack of storytelling ability.
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>>81018808
>4th boring, miserable, 2deep4u shit movie in a row

Talk about reaching hard
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>tfw even the positive reviewers are not that impressed
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>>81018262
and this board claims to hate Cap 2 so how is any of this justified?
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>>81018859
>I'm definitely gonna see it once so I can adequately shitpost about it,

This is what all others should strive for. You need to know the movie inside and out to be able to shitpost at your best.
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>>81018692

I think Zootopia was trying a bit too hard with its racism parallels, though. It didn't feel genuine, and "racism is bad, guys" isn't exactly deep social commentary.

I enjoyed it as a buddy-cop kids movie but let's not act like it was profound
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>>81018877

>Mara Reinstein
>Jordan Hoffman

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>81018487
You're right, but if it's shit I prevent my sister and her friends from giving g their money to it because they trust my opinion.

Word of mouth works both ways
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>>81018365
>Quarter billion dollar remake of The Odd Couple
>in which Oscar and Felix are literally trying to kill each other
I'd go see that.
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>>81018754
Man the movie probably doesn't even explore them. Man of Steel was like that too. It just went "these themes exist" and left them at that. Saying a theme exists isn't exploring it.
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>>81018262
>Went to see Cap2 with friends
>They thought it was shit
>Going to watch BvS with them
>tfw I expect them to praise it as the Citizen Kane of cinema
(Can't wake up)
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>tfw you go away for a day and everything changes.
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>>81018840
No, but I seem to remember "you don't get it" being the same damage control used for Man of Steel even though there was nothing to "get". I'm not getting fooled twice.
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>>81018787
>People like you are the reason why we can only have animation aimed at children.
This movie isn't exactly helping either. The positive reviews are saying it's not doing the philosophical elements well, and something trying and failing like this is just gonna make people point to what's working even more.
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>>81018891
>this board claims to hate Cap 2
What? /co/ voted Cap 2 as the best superhero movie of 2014 and every time there's a "rate the MCU movies/what's your favorite MCU movie" question TWS is pretty much always in the top 3.
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>>81018876
>Bats v. Supes: Yawn of Justice
>Man of Murder
>The Dank Meme Rises ft. Big Guy
>Green Lantern Insert joke here

My math isn't great but I count 4.
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>>81018952

>green lantern
>2deep4u
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>>81018952

/tv/ sounds like your home board
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>>81018262
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>mfw this shitstorm
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>>81018487
Not fucking likely. I walked out of Man of Murder, I'm sure as hell not walking into Daredevil 2: Cashgrab boogaloo.
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>>81018537
>Daredevil can make watching 12 hours of DAD I CANT SEE entertaining
>BvS can't manage 2 and a half
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>>81018817
If the live action is also aimed at kids...
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>>81018788
>Is it a no-brainer cape flick you need to turn your brain off to enjoy or is it a deep political analysis using two heroes to tell a message?
I've always held that you have to turn off your brain (and possibly throw it into the nearest bi) to enjoy a Snyder movie. That hasn't changed with these reviews.

>Is it about Batman and Superman with some heroes or does it need to set up the JL movie?
It needs to set up the JL movie. That's the only purpose of the Knightmare sequence you guys were losing your shit over. It wasn't to galvanize Bruce against Clark (Lex does that) it was to go "vagueness is coming get hype for a sequel!)

> Is a movie about these heroes or is it breaking them down?
Yes.

>? It can't be fucking both. It would just be a clusterfuck,
Because no one ever has ever made a clusterfuck of a movie. Least pf a;; Zack Snyder
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>>81018920
>went to see Cap 2 with friends
>"anon, this movie was pretty hard to follow and didn't have enough jokes. Thor 2 was better".
Could be worse, at least your friends aren't as retarded as mine.
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>>81018939
>/co/
>voted
yeah right, I don't remember voting
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>>81018496
>/co/ can laugh it up now over RT scores. Marvel fans tend to live in the moment, the now, and give little concern to the implications of the things they indulge in. Mark my words, in ten years time this film will be remembered as one of the most critically misunderstood films of the decade, and it's reassessments will be marked by regret over how little its direction was understood.
this is the kanye west of films
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>>81018611
>I haven't seen BvS, but I can guaran-fucking-tee it'll be nowhere near as entertaining as all the damage control I've seen since yesterday afternoon.
Someone on /tv/ last night said "It's still a decent 40%"
If they got a 40 on a test would they say "That's still decent and not a miserable failure"?
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>>81018866
Slow motion ramping and chroma key are just as gimmicky. You're just not aware of them.
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>>81018985
I know. I haven't laughed this hard and for this long in a while.
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>>81018600
Christopher Reeves superman. Michael Keaton Batman. Every single DC animated series.

How fucking old are you kid?
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>>81019007
The annual /co/ awards, newfag.
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>>81019001
>Least pf a;; Zack Snyder
You ok anon?
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>>81018985
The defense force is out in full and the movie hasn't even been released yet.

This is some 8.8 level shit.

It's everything I could have hoped for and more.
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>>81019007
12 year olds couldn't register
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>>81018487
I haven't seen a Live Action superhero movie since 2010, I'm not about to start now.
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>>81019007
>Barack Obama is the president of the US
Yea right, I don't remember voting
You were probably still on /tv/ then
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>>81019021
>If they got a 40 on a test would they say "That's still decent and not a miserable failure"?

Depending on where you live, that's a possibility.
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>>81019028
Keaton Batman was grimdark.
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>>81018634
two GROUPS of friends!?

anon how?
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>>81018896
I thought it was perfectly solid on it's points about systemic bigotry. About how even victims of it (Judy) can still be guilty of it (towards Nick) and that it's all our responsibilities to understand where that comes from and fight against it.

Besides, heavy handed or not, it still has higher dramatic aspirations than B v S most likely does.
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>>81018985
It's so fucking good.
Whether this movie is good or bad doesn't matter, because so far it's the most entertaining thing to happen to cinema and it's not even out yet.
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>>81019023
Those are just techniques.

Found footage films are a genre of their own. Hence the name "found footage film"
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>>81019057
I'm sure on some planet you are correct, but your weak link is: This is Earth.
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>>81018487
I saw the last Batman movie once and regretted it.
I pirated Man of Steel. I did technically watch it twice, but only because I fell asleep during the second act.
I'm not even bothering with that for BvS. Why bother? It can't be more entertaining than this thread, right now.
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>>81019030
you mean, shillcentral?
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>>81018487

>implying I'm even seeing it on release weekend

Fuck that, I'm getting my spook on and seeing The Witch this weekend, BvS can wait.
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>>81019007
https://coawards.wordpress.com/

Newfag. Go back to /tv/ already.
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>>81019035
New keyboard. Not used to it yet.
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>>81018985
It's amazing isn't it?

Like I thought Fant4stic was going to be the best we would get for a while but this is a goddamn meltdown
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>>81019154
I like Marvel and DC, but I'm posting out of spite for Snyder. Does it count?
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>>81019147
>wordpress
it's getting better.
what's next, tumblr?
oh wait, it's already confirmed that tumblr rules this board
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>>81019154
I don't really like Marvel, I only like it for not being not DC.
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>>81019154

95% of the thread 2bh. It's seriously pathetic.
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>>81019153
/co/ hadn't been waiting on Fant4stic for three years. There haven't been numerous stickies on /co/ and /tv/ for Fant4stic.
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>>81019173
nope.
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>>81019154
/co/ is the melting pot for /v/ and /tv/ shitposters these days.
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>>81018210
The reviews say that it is a philosophical political drama at first but then throws everything away to have a bunch of dumb action(which includes the destruction again of the whole city and batman killing people with guns) and trying to set up the shitty universe.
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>>81019021
Fuck that, I just saw someone on a /co/ thread call 35% "average" like two hours ago.

This whole ordeal has been fucking amazing, my phone has been glued to my hand for the past day.
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>>81019098
Man the thing is, I don't have any found footage movies that come to mind that I've even liked, but I'll be damned if I don't give them a fair shot when I compare them to a Snyder movie. The man should stick to doing commercials because he can't tell a coherent story to save his life. Eighty to ninety percent of the pathos in his movies is soundtrack and lighting.

And the stunning thing is people blame everyone except him, even though we literally have an example of his work when it's 100% free of out outside influence in Suckerpunch and its the worst of the lot!
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>>81018210
I'm gonna have to keep this open in another tab and show my brother, I fucking told him a thread like this would happen. I just didn't expect it so soon. Bravo your saltiness has exceeded even my expectations.
Now tell us about the philosophical underpinnings and political ramifications of the piss scene. Dead serious. I crave your insight.
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>>81019225
>phoneposting

The absolute worst of society.
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>>81019153
>>81019203
/co/ was united against Tranktastic 4%.

I guess you could say /co/ is having its own Civil War now.
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All this anti-DC shilling actually has me pretty stoked for the movie. Seeing as /co/ is pretty much never right I have some faith it'll be an enjoyable time.
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>>81018537
Well here's your problem.

Daredevil is actually good and worth people's time.
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>>81019265
>Seeing as /co/ is pretty much never right
Yeah, Fant4stic and X-Men Origins are pretty god tier films
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>>81019225

I keep thinking like you but I just get super sad at how invested people are
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>>81018210
I'm impressed that they've added Abandoned Warehouse Districts to the DCU's cities to prevent future Man of Steel style criticism.
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>>81019154
Yeah the Marvel bandwagon lives on. The bubble will burst eventually.
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>>81018496

Here's a good question for you then.

If Marvel poisoned the well like you say, why are Daredevil and Jessica Jones so well regarded?

Days of Future Past reviewed well, and it opens in a dystopian fucking hellscape where most of humanity is dead

Deadpool is full of "quips", but it's also family unfriendly and ruthlessly crass and vulgar by mainstream movie standards

Maybe it has nothing to do with Marvel, or deep themes, or shit like that

Maybe it's just BAD
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>>81018210
There is kinda a point to that image. If you are making a serious grim drama, why make it about people that run around dressed in capes and tights like some kind of vampire ballerinas?
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>>81019283
A fucking vegetable knew those were going to be trash. Can't credit /co/ for that when EVERYONE knew those movies would be shit.
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While the movie is probably bad. Where are these standards when Marvel release a new movie? because deadpool aside they haven't had a good movie in years and yet everyone of their shitty movies get good reviews.
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>>81018985
I'm still going to give the movie a chance and watch it on Monday (when i have to pay only 4€), but this whole situation is hilarious
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I'm going to see the movie and probably enjoy it for what it is, but man I feel like this meltdown and all the damage control might actually be the most entertaining part. I've been laughing since yesterday.

I guess it helps that I don't have expectations for any of these movies.
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>I can't think for myself so instead of forming my own opinions i need internet critics to give them to me
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>>81018496

This must be why every critic shat on The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises...

...oh wait.

People are shitting on BvS because for all its bluster and grand ambition it's literally named for two action figures slamming into each other, and it's so desperate to be taken 100% seriously that it may as well star a bunch of fucking Hot Topic goths. "SHUT UP, mom! I'm DEEP now! I'm DARK and I'm DEEP!"
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>>81018210
It doesn't really matter, the contrarians of /co/ at the end of the day will praise the movie the same way they praise Man of Steel.
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>>81019297
>Yeah, the Disney bandwagon lives on. The bubble will burst eventually

-Anonymous WB Executive circa 1955
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>>81019287
No dude, don't get me wrong, there's probably people who were really looking forward to this and the whole connected DCCU thing. Now who even knows if anything past WW will come out?
I know what it's like to really get your hopes up just to receive disappointment.
FUCK YOU FALLOUT 4, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE GREAT. WHY COULDN'T YOU JUST BE NEW VEGAS 2?
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>>81019391
Bethesda didn't make New Vegas.
You should've knew it would be shit months in advance.
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>Batman and Superman reduced to antiheroes killing everyone without mercy
>deep

lol, you can't be this delusional
stop pretending to be retarded to get clicks
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>>81018754
>>81018919
Sounds like Naruto. Really, it explores politics, the destructive side of human nature, hope vs fear as what should lead mankind, etc but it's still Naruto so the writing is fucking terrible and touching deep subjects only make the writing flaws to be even more noticeable.
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>>81018877
>OP, phrases like "philosophical political drama" and "exploring mankind's need for hope" and "exploring the dangers of absolute power" are completely meaningless.

clearly even the positive reviews were paid by marvel to not be as positive about the film.
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>>81018600
You only started reading in the last decade, didn't you.

DC used to be the lighthearted kid-friendly universe and Marvel was the grimdark one, but DC's sales have always been worse so they doubled-down on trying to out-Marvel Marvel, while Marvel has shaken the 90's grit by becoming known more for its movies than its comics.
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>>81018496
>The RT scores are a sad indication of the damage Marvel films have done to to the way we culturally perceive superheroes.

>movie sucks
>Better blame Marvel!

The anatomy of a drone.
As an actual DC and super heroes fan I just hope the movie has a good Batman/Wonder Woman. I already gave up Lex and Superman (my two favorites).
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>>81019398

But, Creepy jewish man.

That is common sense.
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>>81019308
Maybe...
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>>81019330
Well that's the thing. People have a hate boner for Snyder and Marvel fags are the Sony fanboys of the comics world.

Insecure as fuck and worried more about hoping for the failure of the "rival company" than enjoying their own shit. Where was all this fuckery when Amazing Spider man was confirmed shit or when Thor 2 failed? Now you see these huge fucking threads citing critcs opinions and the movie isn't even officially out yet so if at the end it goes on to do Transormers money, what will these fags have to say then?
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>>81019330
Yeah, good point. Marvel pumps out a solid 5/10 and everyone here shits themselves with excitement.
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>Unfortunately, the script’s early promise recedes as the movie unreels. “Batman vs. Superman” is a disorganized, lead-footed movie that carries itself with unearned confidence; you see every card it’s about to play ten minutes before the movie plays it, yet Snyder doesn’t just slap each one down on the table with gusto, he keeps pointing to it and telling you what rank and suit it is. We surely would have surmised that the identical first names of Bruce’s dead biological mother and Jor-El’s adoptive mother—Martha—would come into play eventually, but the film is so worried that somebody might not get it that it has Thomas Wayne croak “Martha” with his dying breath, then finds ways to keep repeating “Martha” over the next two hours, building toward a reprise-flashback of Bruce’s parents’ murder that will bring latecomers up to speed.

Man

This movie sounds so deep

SO deep man
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>>81018210
It's a tendency I've noticed, too. And I'm sure it explains why most action films and blockbusters are at most PG-13 only. People don't want depth, drama, scary things or even conflict in their stories; they want films that make then feel safe, that won't stray to far from what is fun and kid-friendly. And /co/ is not the exception; this board is infested with comfyfags, in both /car/ AND /com/ sides of the board.
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>>81019398
So what's it like having no self awareness? Oh you probably can't answer that can you..
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>>81018487
Only if I meet some dyke who really wants to go to it as a movie date. But unless I meet her tomorrow or something, odds are that she'll have already seen it.

Maybe I'll watch it when it comes out on disc/download. Is funny, I'm liking Ben as Bats and I've HEARD good things about Gail as Wondy, but everything Supes related which seems to be the main point of focus, seems awful to me.
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>>81019154
I'm posting out of spite for OP being an idiot.
I was excited to go and see BvS and Civil War on the same day, I'm downright disappointed by how shitty it sounds. Might not bother after all.
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>>81019406
I was ignoring the obvious signs it was gonna be shit and tried to convince myself all its shortcomings didn't matter.

Sound familiar, DCfriends?
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>>81019431
>People have a hate boner for Snyder
You guys keep saying this. I don't get why it's never occurred to you that maybe it's deserved.

Do you defend Michael Bay and M Night Shymalan this fiercely or is it just Snyder because WB inexplicably backs him?
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>>81019430
>>81019459
>Company wars

I bet you fags are in your 40's too.
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>>81018210
>Here's a philosophical political drama

You fucking autists never even saw the movie yet but you are all raging at reviews because muh batman, muh superman.
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>>81019484
>Michael Bay and M Night Shymalan
Both great directors.
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>>81019173
Same here. Hell, if anything, I usually like DC more than Marvel. But Snyder is a fucking moron.
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>>81018487

I knew I won't pay for it the moment that horrible trailer appeared.

It pretty much spoiled the entire fucking movie.
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What is Capekino?
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>>81019484
Difference between Snyder and those two is i enjoy his movies. I also don't adhere to the interne hivemind mentality so i don't go around agreeing with shit just because a lot of faggots say something.

I do realize that there is not a lot of self awareness among angry fanboys though
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>>81019484
If Michael Bay and M .Night had been tapped to make Flash or Green Lantern, DC Shills would find some ridiculous way to defend Warner Bros.
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>>81019547
The Rocketeer
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>>81018817
Because a live action Venture Bros or Rick and Morty would be shit
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>>81019431
>Where was all this fuckery when Amazing Spider man was confirmed shit or when Thor 2 failed?
Nice selective memory bro. Amazing Spider-man got a LOT of hate. Especially the Lizard's design and the crane scene.

Thor 2 got a fair amount of hate too. Except
- Even MCU fanboys think the Thor movies are the weak link. There was no vehement defense force to encourage daily threads. (And this is the part you should be paying attention to. If you could just let it go and say "yeah the movie sucked" it'd take the wind out of a whole lot of sales Snyderfags exude so much butthurt that it's impossible to stay away. The schadenfreude is too tempting.)
- It came out at a time of year that was generally pretty slow so nobody cared
- It was after Man of Steel so everyone was stuck in full time MAN OF MURDER memeposting and defending.
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>>81019536
Literally who.
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>>81019547
Its a superhero movie that is fucking boring.
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DC/WB and Disney/Marvel are both crap factories without any interest on cinema as a narrative medium, even mediocre movies can still follow a narrative but modern Hollywood left the movie business a long time ago in favor of franchises. Disney/Marvel just has a better PR team and more accurate focus groups.
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>>81018496
>not take comic book movies seriously

It's a movie about a dude who cosplays as a bat to fight crime. And a Jesus from space who fly around in spandex costume.

If you take something like this seriously you need to grow up.
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>>81019547
A dank /tv/ meme
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>>81019555
>lolcompanywars

And i though console warriors were autistic
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>>81019549
>I do realize that there is not a lot of self awareness among angry fanboys though
I know I shouldn't ask this but are you including yourself in that statement?
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>>81019330
Marvel films usually don't try for such a grand scale with themes like this and when they do they rightfully get crapped on (see: Age of Ultron).
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>>81019574
There was nothing remotely on the level of this and most were claiming it better than the Raimi films.
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My main problem with this movie is that pretty much everything was spoiled in the trailers.
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I expected this movie to be pretty bad after the trailers. Nothing I've seen of this movie has been good. Eisenburg was also a terrible cast. Plus it's made by Zack Snyder. I'll still watch it though the day it comes out.
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>>81019431
>. Where was all this fuckery when Amazing Spider man was confirmed shit
What? ASM was always majorly thought of as a disappointment

>or when Thor 2 failed?
Thor 2 has basically gone down as the worst Marvel movie. Much like Age of Ultron, people do admit it wasn't great or anything. That said, Thor 2 is also completely inoffensive and nobody tries to pretend it was deep
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>>81019614
I'm not fighting a company war, kiddo. Not that i expect you to get that being an autist and all.
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>>81019641
>most were claiming it better than the Raimi films.
Now you're just shitposting and making stuff up.
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WB once again commits to my greatest fear. Their undying commital to the "Epic" movie type for all DC movies. Sure The Dark knight was amazing, and Epics have the highest possible revenues, Avatar was an epic. But Epics are also the hardest to make, they are the biggest gambles, and WB has no variety in their movies. I heard their BvS morality rhetoric in Man of Steel and The Dark Knight Rises before that.

If only WB would reconsider their strategy and ask themselves what are customers looking for when they "hire" a super hero movie. That is right out of my marketing textbook.
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>>81019411
Even Naruto manages to have some interesting gems in it about the cycle of revenge and the whole thematic thing with the shipping that /a/ pointed out while dancing in the narusaku flames.

I can honestly say that Naruto is a half increment of quality greater than Snyder's movies tend to be.
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>>81019536
>professional critic
Whatever happen to critical thinking?
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>>81019547
/tv/ considers kino as the highest level of filmmaking.
It's based on a fucking Avatar character.
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>>81018866
The "found footage" angle of Chronicle is barely noticeable because the camera is steady 90% of the time.

There's barely any shakycam (I think there's ONE shot of shakycam, but there could be another, I don't remember), no spooky camera angles, no bad lighting or intentionally bad photography.

The reason it's "found footage" is because this idea works perfectly with the personality of the main character.

Everybody go watch Chronicle and see what a good Superman film could be like.
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>All these anons taking pride in the fact that they will see it anyway

Oh wow, your such an intelligent free thinker going against the internet hive mind.

Fuck off, shitters like you are the reason this movie is going to make money and we will be stuck with fucking Hack Snyder directing the DC films. Comic fans deserve this.
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>>81019431
So Suckerpunch was derided by obsessive Marvel fans, even though it has nothing to do with any DC superhero property, or indeed any superhero property ever made?

>>81019447
This desu senpai. People sure hated all that depth and drama in Nolan's movies!
That's the only explanation! Can't be the director, he's a saint!
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>>81019484
I've argued with people here that unironically defended Bay's Transformers movies because "i ask fun fights with giant robots and that's what i get, nothing wrong with him!"
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>>81019701
I still have to see the movie to make my own opinion

Me buying a ticket to see Green Lantern didn't help it's box office or general reception any
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>>81019555
M. Night did some good stuff, Unbreakable was outstanding. Bay is not as bad as his reputation would have you think, Bad Boys or Pain and Gain were great. But please tell me of what a great filmmaker Whedon is or the person that directed the Thor movies(that is if they shared a director, which isn't likely since Disney doesn't value them)
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>>81019547
What does kino mean
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>>81019431
>Marvel fags are the Sony fanboys of the comics world

i want /v/ crossboarders to leave
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>>81019555
>Michael Bay on GL

I'll be honest, it'd be a lot better than what we got. He gets normies in by the droves for Transformers and TMNT so if he could do that with GL and keep it at least tangently related, I wouldn't mind. Now getting him to do the new one in 2020 (if that's even still a possibility), hell no.
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>>81019447
Yeah, which is why TDK flopped.
BvS is PG-13.
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>>81019677
The thematic thing with the shipping was half Kishi's blatant sexism and half shippers's autism
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>>81019694
Shut the fuck up, Landis.
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>>81019747
Marvel sacks directors over a fucking 70% RT score. DC needs to take note.
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>>81019641
Again, are you at all capable of stepping outside of yourself and entertaining the thought, NOT AGREEING WITH, just saying that maybe it's humanly possible, that the difference is that this movie MIGHT maybe in one of the infinite universes, poorly done?

That the difference in quality and vehement defense might make for a difference in reception?
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We're at 72 critics now. Almost at the "this is the consensus" level of 100
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>>81019784
American Alien is better than Man of Steel.
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>>81019484
Well I've yet to hear an objective criticism of Snyder's actual directing skills.
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>>81019666
So that's a no then.

Thing is, I'm not fighting a company war either. I'm fighting a director war. Because if Marvel hired Snyder to-fucking-day I'd say it was their second worst mistake ever made.
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We all know the real reason this movie is going to flop: Wonder Woman.
They literally re-wrote the entire script to add her in.
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>>81019555
>Michael Bay Doing a Crazy ass Space War

Muh dick
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>>81019677
Wait, what with the shipping now? Did the manga address the fan shipping or shoot it down or something?
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>>81019777
I wouldn't call it blatant sexism so much as thematic contrast and cultural values dissonance. Hinata is basically a yamato nadeshiko, whereas Sakura is designed in such a way that she'd appeal to western audiences more.
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>>81019835
That's the thing, i'm sure the movie is bad, i'm sure snyder did bad shit, but so far everything is about muh jokes, muh fun, muh "too deep".

Since when all action movies need to be equally dumb?
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>>81019063
Nothing by Tim Burton is grimdark, that's the irony.

It either tries to hard to be edgy or it has a gothic artstyle.
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>>81019881
Do I need to spoiler this?
No, fuck you.

>Naruto ends up with Hinata
>Sasuke ends up with Sakura and turns into a deadbeat dad
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>>81019853
Most reviews say she's one of the best parts though.
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>>81018223
Did what, make things go "boom" and punched people? Well, they sure did. Not sure about the punching, I've seen better editing in 70's low-budget horror.
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>>81018210
>image.jpg

lmao
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>>81019411
It even has a stupid generic villain to unite everyone at the end.
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>>81019773
If TDK were made and released nowadays, it would definitely flop.
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>>81018496
I honestly think the user score is gonna be at least 15% higher than the critic
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>>81019920

This is why i love hunter x hunter.

So, I don't get to see shipping like this. Maybe gay shota porn but the series is straight forward.
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>>81019920
Yeah, no need to spoiler it. I wasn't going to read it. That's what I expected to happen based on how far into the manga I got, though. I don't get it. What was the problem there? Did shippers just get mad that their ship wasn't canon? Isn't that what always happens when a main character has multiple potential love interests and settles with one of them at the end?
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>>81019967
>If TDK were made and released nowadays, it would definitely flop.

Agreed. Critics would hate on Heath Ledger's joke for not being as quippy and "relateable" as Loki
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>>81019929
Exactly. They focused on a side character instead of caring about Batman and Superman.
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>>81020004
>This is why i love hunter x hunter.

Is it off hiatus yet?
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>>81019967
With Heath Ledger's performance? Nope.
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>>81019689
Fedoramancers out of reddit and rationalwiki made it look so bad, people just preferred to turn their brains off all the time.
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Hah its cute that a grown man that dresses as a wants his movies to be serious

Batman movie based on adam west's tvwhen?
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>>81019835
Hard to hear things with your fingers in your ears.
Snyder values style over substance. His cinematograhy is big on spectacle, but devoid of pathos. He thinks in terms of scenes rather than a narrative; he shoots for wallpaper shots and trailers. Stuff that looks cool, but when you try and fit it together the edges push up against each other and the story stops working. Putting aside his cape movies, look at Sucker Punch; he uses the dream sequence motif to hide it there, but that's exactly what he's doing yet again; a bunch of cool looking but ultimately just cool looking stuff, thrown in a blender, and then he comes up with an intellectual sounding justification for it after the fact.

He can't pull good performances out of his actors. Which is a tragedy because he ends up with incredibly charming and talented actors. How is it that Cavill is more charming in The Man from UNCLE than Man of Steel? I KNOW Costner can perform with more warmth than he displays, Field of Dreams alone is evidence of that. This isn't a dialogue issue (although that is not a strong suit of the movie) but an acting one, purely on the shoulders of the director.

Snyder's pacing is also horrendous. Again because his directorial style relies on set pieces rather than plot. He has a big flashy action beat three times a movie, and the rest is a boring slog of psudeo-intellectual soliloquies where characters talk at each other and completely lack any chemistry. Because Snyder doesn't get chemistry. He relies on color and score to impart emotion, not performance.

But whatever. LA LA LA LA LA MARVELDRONE AUTISM, right?
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>>81019967
Actually I don't think so.

Made the exact same way and with Batman Begins behind it, I think it would do even better because unlike Snyder's bullshit, it actually would be different
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>>81019756
Movie theater in German.
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>>81020010
They would have hated it back then too if he didn't die.
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>>81020017

Mo, it never going off.
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>>81020005
Were you around long enough to remember how the Avatar fandom reacted to Legend of Aang ending? How the zutara people started pulling their hair out and threatening suicide?

It was like that. Times ten. It was delicious. Made even worse (but infinitely more entertaining) by the fact that Kishimoto, the animators, the other fans, pretty much everyone even tangentially related, even the characters themselves, started rubbing it in their faces.
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>>81018877
>a popcorn film
What the fuck does this even mean
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>>81020058
I don't think so. But I'd wager he wouldn't have gotten an Oscar if he lived though.
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>>81020109
It's a synonym for 'comfy'.
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>>81018914

>Felix has Oscar in his crosshairs, about to squeeze the trigger
>his sinuses act up; he wheezes and misses the shot, causing a massive explosion
>Oscar tries to poison Felix's dinner but is so inept at cooking that he starts his own kitchen on fire
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>>81020031
Aren't those more the issues of the writers and actors? Isn't the script at fault for lacking narrative flow? Shouldn't the actors be able to properly emote?
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>>81020022

Nobody would give a fuck about him if not for the fact he died.

Begins made 300 million $. TDK only became so popular because muh Ledger. Muh best Joker ever.
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>>81020005
>>81020084
Niggas, you don't understand

http://imgur.com/a/XKwJ4#0
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>>81020017
>>81020075
It's coming back mid-April, but for how long is anyone's guess.
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Fresh: 29
Rotten: 44
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>>81019751
>thor movies
I went to see the 1st because it was directed by Kenneth Brannagh. He got completely lost in the Marvel industrial production line. I have no idea if he didn't care, didn't manage, or got shit on by the studio but that movie was fucking shit. I don't know about the 2nd, that was the last live action capeshit I'll ever watch.unless del Taco directs something
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>>81020135

Holy fuck, You still kept it?
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>>81020170
I googled "Hall of Anal Devastation" since I remembered that's what the album was called
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>>81020130
So you're saying that it just so happens that everytime Zack Snyder makes a movie he's forced to work with faulty scripts and lazy actors?

Directors have way more influence on the movie that you think, Snyder isn't just a cameraman
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>>81018210
>philosophical political drama

What kind of dank-ass shit are you smoking, son?
where can I get some?
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>>81020084
Yeah, I saw those. I saw it happen in Harry Potter too. I even saw the Oreimo reaction. Nekofags are still mad to this day. Hell, I still remember the Digimon Adventure 02 shipping holocaust at the end. This is just something I always expect to happen.
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>>81018210
A film can be philosophically insightful while still being entertaining. Often by allowing the work to simply be and letting the questions develop naturally, rather than shoving it down the audience's throat constantly, you create not only a better work but you also don't come off as a bunch of pretentious crap. Which seems to be the issue here: Super heroes raise a lot of interesting questions regarding ethics, but Snyder thinks that you have to draw attention to those notions constantly and without remorse or reservation. It's the same problem that Man of Steel had. It disappeared way too far up its own ass to be enjoyable and came across as a bunch of pretentious crap.
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>>81020135
NARUTO should have ended with SASUKE.
I'm not even gay or care for shipping or for Naruto in general, dropped that shit along time ago, but from what I remember they both were hot for each other. Maybe they fuck each other when no one is looking, maybe homosexualism isn't accepted in their culture.
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>>81020242
Sasuke deserved nothing short from being killed off early and forgotten about.
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>>81020190
That could've gone bad if you remembered wrong.
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>>81018210

Wants your fucking superhero blockbuster to be pretentous and whiney.

Get back to your arthouse crap if you want "dept"
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>>81018487
Eh, I'll see it once it's on Netflix.
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>>81018487
>You're going to see BvS

I didn't watch MoS. I didn't watch Green Lantern. I didn't watch Fant4stic Four.

Why would I pay money to see a shit movie?

That's retarded.
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>>81020294
Worked for the Nolan Trilogy
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>>81018210
Dude, no one is buying your red herring, people just don't think it's a good movie.
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>>81020294
Hellboy II had "dept" without being arthouse.
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>>81019447
>People don't want depth, drama, scary things or even conflict in their stories; they want films that make then feel safe, that won't stray to far from what is fun and kid-friendly.

yeah, I sure was glad TDK took the comfy, non-confrontational route and didn't have a psychotic clown blow up the protagonist's love interest and kill the likable DA after turning him into a disfigured madman
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Whole movie from what I remember

Movie opens at Wayne cemetery, and Bruce's parents are being put in the tomb. Bruce runs away, falls down a an old shaft, bats fly out, and there is a shot from the ground of the shaft of him rising up in the bats as this is a dream Bruce has. Also see his parents murdered, and his mom was shot in the face

Next is Bruce landing by chopper in Metropolis as the World Engine does its work. He drives around avoiding disaster, saves Scoot McNairy from rubble that crushed his legs, and saves a little girl whos mom died during the fight

Now in present day, Lois is in Africa to interview some warlord/terrorist. KGBeast betrays the warlord and all of the warlords men are killed. Superman comes in to save Lois and is in turn blamed for all the dead bodies.

Cut to gotham, two cops are checking out this building. They find a bunch of Chinese people in a cell in the bottom who refuse to come out because "the devil" is still there. Screams come from upstairs, Batman had branded a guy. Batman escapes from the building and goes back to the batcave. Hes looking for someone that is gonna set off a dirty bomb in Gotham

At the Daily Planet, Clark wants to go to Gotham (right across the bay from Metropolis) to do a story on the bat of gotham, but Perry says do football instead.

Knightmare happens. Bruce kills some people with guns, is captured where Superman desmasks him. Bruce wakes up at desk, then portal opens with a bunch of lightning, metal suit pokes head through "I WAS TOO EARLY," as the face peels away to reveal flash with his costume and gives Bruce some warning about "you were right about him." Bruce really wakes up then.

Bruce suspects Lex has something to do with the dirty bomb and attends a party Lex is throwing to hack is computer system. Clark and Diana are there, and Diana steals Bruce's hacking device because Lex has information on her she wants back


contd
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>>81020313
Sorry anon, I didn't knew you were poor.
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You guys do realize that if this movie makes less than 1b JL is finished right?
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>they never address the dead Robin thing as to why Bruce was willing to kill
Seriously?
For fuck sake, I was okay with it assuming they explained it but a quick line about Robin would have been fine. I swear to god if Snyder left that part out but its in the R-rated cut I'lm gonna freak
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>>81019751

Going by Avengers 1, Whedon's a pretty good filmmaker. Going by Avengers 2, Whedon's only okay at filmmaking.
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>>81020386
We have summaries, no one cares about that anymore.
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>>81018877
>sadistic, fascistic, half-crazed vigilante

I already have a perfectly good Punisher, I don't need Batman to become him too.
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>>81020319
Wrong. The Nolan trilogy has it's fair share of humor and sarcasm alongside it's tone because the characters act like fucking human beings. It doesn't pretend to have a grandiose message to tell, it is a story solely focused on that of Batman
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>>81020366
2007 was almost 10 years ago, anon. The social climate is another; people want comfy and safe spaces more than anything.
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>>81020410
oh good
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>>81018210
>DC: our movies are deep and have a philosophical meaning, the audience is just stupid to realize the deepness of my movies.
>movie comes out
>two guys punching each other and a "plot"
>DC:y.you guys are just stupid!! You dont get the deepness!!
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>>81020391
Good. I do want JL, but not like this.
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>>81018273
Isn't that how wars happen in rel life though?
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If you people think this film won't break records, on a day where there's no school no less, you're fucking stupid.
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>>81020386

>Batman killing people is in a dream sequence

With the way people make it sound from what I've read here and on reviews, it's like he's the punisher
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>>81018379
Critics won't shut up about "muh fun" but the general public was tiring of that by the time Age of Ultron came out.

These were my thoughts upon seeing the second "fun" trailer ("I thought she was with you"), which according to the reviews complaining about the lack of quips, were unfounded. DC should avoid trying to outquip Marvel; that niche is filled, they've had eight years of experience, and those who like the quips will prefer Marvel, anyways, due to company loyalty. No one they have, be it Terrio, Ayer, or Miller is capable of beating Whedon in that department. The best thing for them is to keep targeting the demographic that actually liked MoS, instead of lightening things in an attempt to please everyone and instead alienating both groups.
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>>81020512

>It's a console wars poster

Will you ever get a life?
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>>81020574
He doesn't do it just in a dream. He also kills a bunch of people with the batwing and explosives.
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>>81020391
Great, the sooner Snyder is killed off completely from all DC projects the better. I can't fucking believe how anyone can fuck up the movie where FUCKING BATMAN AND SUPERMAN meet for the first time and even fight each other! The only way this movie could be anymore failure proof would be if it somehow included Spiderman and Wolverine. FUCK SNYDER.
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>>81020391
Good, maybe they'll get someone other than the fucking hack to direct
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>>81020556
It's not like it was a decade ago.
Kids aren't rushing to see movies anymore.
They have unlimited options on their computer, hell, even smartphone.
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>>81020366

TDK came out almost 10 years ago. Crazy right? But the world has changed a lot since 2008. The Marvel movies have set the precedent for what the public and even critics now think they should be. TDK didn't have a single light moment, it was dark and gloomy throughout.

You can't have super serious cape movies anymore.
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M-maybe the R-rated cut'll be good
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>yfw Daredevil on Netflix does edgy, bleak superheroes better than a multi-million dollar Hollywood production
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>>81020556
oh i have no doubt that it will make money, just not the money their looking for.
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>>81020391
Nah, they'll just change director and plaster their name all over it if its someone like Miller
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>>81020632
You know jack fucking shit about the world outside of this place.
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>>81020647

>Netflix platform is the same as blockbuster

Surely you aren't this dumb.
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>>81020588
Some reviews really like the beginning of the film, the serious self-reflectiveness of it, but got that sinking feeling afterwards. But yeah I think you got a point there.
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>>81020679
If you don't think that's true, you're the one that doesn't know how the world works today.
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>>81020684
That's what's funny about it.
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>>81020023
>implying it didn't come out of here first
Don't blame reddit. They learned it from you.
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>>81020684
wat

I'm just saying that Daredevil does the concept in question better than a movie that's had a gorrillion dollars and high-profile actors poured into it, which is funny.
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>>81019536
>Reinstein

Of course. She must've hated the Christ allegory, the fucking christkiller herself.
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>>81020647
Too bad daredevil is shit.
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>>81020135
Holy fuck that delicious butthurt and denial
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>>81020647
And it still manages to be fun.
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>>81020556
It'll do well, but Civil War is more likely to break records.
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>>81020727
So you've seen the film?
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>>81018210
>Thinking this film is anything but trash.
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>>81020556
>on a day where there's no school no less

That's why I'm taking Monday off. I feel like it won't be as fucking ridiculous and I've been meaning to take a day off.
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None of you have seen the film.
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>>81020727

Daredevil has 12 hours to do it, a movie has 1/6th of that time, and when they do it they get grief for it. It's not that they do it better, it's cause they literally have more time to explore Matt's personality throughout the series.

Also shows made for netflix don't have to jump through the same hoops that a movie has to in terms of demographics and advertising.

All the hate BvS is getting for not being quippy and light is being actively sabotaged by the fact that these same critics went and saw Deadpool and imagine that's what all comic movies ought to be like.
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>>81020574
He kills at least 10-15 people with the Batmobile and Batwing, mostly from crushing car but also the mini guns on the vehicles. He also shoots a guys flamethrower and he explodes, and kind of kills someone with a grenade
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>>81018210
Who's calling it a philosophical political drama? That's fucking hilarious.
No seriously, I'm out of the loop.
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>>81020663
What the fuck does that even mean?
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We have a Critics Consensus folks

>Critics Consensus: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice smothers a potentially powerful story -- and some of America's most iconic superheroes -- in a grim whirlwind of effects-driven action.
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>>81020455

>almost ten years ago

Holy christ, that JUST hit me.
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>>81020864
Cue the retards.
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>>81020843

Are they real bullets or rubber?
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>>81020843

I'd be mad, but Batman blew up a bunch of henchmen and threw the Joker off a roof back in 89, so I guess we've come full circle
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>>81020843

>mostly from crushing car

Are these confirmed deaths or are you just speculating?
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>>81020864
That's literally what I expected, and I am in no way, shape or form surprised. Now I'm gonna get a goddamn bowl of chocolate Cheerios.
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>>81020918
This entire board has been speculating since yesterday.
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>>81020864
Honestly, sounds about right
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>>81020864
Can't wait.
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>>81020836
>it's cause they literally have more time to explore Matt's personality throughout the series.
Bullshit. It' because Zack Snyder thinks dark and brooding are the same thing.

Hallway fight number 2 is the perfect example. Matt beats up a bunch of bikers. Beats them to death after being tied up and almost blackmailed into breaking his own code of conduct as a catholic.

That is Dark.

How do they make it work? Have the bikers attack a vietnam veteran and Matt defend him to his best resources, and then throw in a smirk before the fight after he successfully tricked the other guys. That makes the scene so much more impactful because you know that Matt is a smart caring guy that's doing it for the better of his city, but he's still mature enough to admit he's gonna enjoy the fuck out of it.

Maturity isn't when you stop thinking the world is all colors, anon. It's when you accept that colors are as important a part of the world as the black parts.

So Zack isn't childish, he's adolescent. Which sucks for the rest of us that hold the characters he gets the priviledge to work with to a higher esteem than he does. And that's enraging, especially after 3 years.
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>>81020864
This honestly sounds fine to me. Grim looking action is entertaining enough for me.
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>>81018877
>and this is a popcorn film
brutal
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What did people seriously expect from this movie? Be as detailed as you possibly can, cause from where I stand there was no way a lot of people wouldn't have been upset with the route it took.
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>>81020864
>All flash no substance
Exactly what I expected from the very beginning.
Yes, I would like a cookie and an award, thank you for asking.
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i saw the film and i`m so fucking dissapointed, my expectations were dirt ground but still i was expecting something dense and profound (from zack snyder because i`m a moron) but goddamit what a bleak piece of intente hardtry, the performances were good but the script was a giant piece of shit

i wanted to enjoy this crap

i kinda enjoyed the nightmare scene but really what a bleak piece of crap DC needs to work this out i fucking love their universe.
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41 and rising.
we got this, boys.
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>>81018487
>>81018496
I'll torrent this shit
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>>81020973
That scene was trash though, if that were in a movie the critics would rip it to shreds too for being "mind-numbing action" just like much of the fight scenes in seasons 2 where Matt punches faceless mooks and nothing really feels that dire.
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>>81020973

>Beats them to death

But he didn't. Everything else you said in the post is irrelevant cause you haven't even seen the film.
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Everyone should have known it was gonna be bad. Did you even see the trailers?
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>>81020973
>Beats them to death
Wait, is "death" in this sentence an exaggeration? Because I don't think DD killed anybody in that fight.

He did cripple a lot of people tho, so your point still stands.
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>>81019915
Tim Burton's Batman came when Adam West was the iconic Batman. Plenty of criticisms were made about Burton's comparatively dark tone.
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>>81021031
You're missing the point.

>>81021037
>>81021060
Yeah, fuck, death is just an hyperbole that slipped by me. Beats them to a pulp.
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>>81021002
What a whiney little bitch. I'm glad it bothered you. Go watch black and white French films, this is a movie for guys that like movies.

Maybe you're too young to know where that phrase comes from.
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>>81021060

Not him, but the way he yanked some guy from a balcony by his neck with a chain and have him land on his spine on the staircase makes me think he damn near killed him.
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>>81018210
>this level of asspain and delusion
its a fucking hack snyder movie

it's guaranteed to suck and spoiler alert, Justice League will also
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>>81021037
>you haven't even seen the film
>film
You're criticizing Anon for not seeing it, and you've yet to realize that Daredevil is a TV show?
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>>81021110
>they look like penises going into a light vagina.
the fuck is this shit>
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>>81021103
No, the guy gets up. He's only fighting like 6 or 7 people in that scene, they all just get up multiple times.

But thats beside the point: you have brutality contextualized with some levity and a purpose: save the vet and take punisher away.

Instead of building smashing for 40 minutes in MoS or a guy having his head put through the ground in BvS.
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>>81021110
fugg Grybdon benis
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>>81020588
>but the general public was tiring of that by the time Age of Ultron came out.

Deadpool
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>>81021127
He means the movie this thread is dedicated to bub. Reading comprehension.
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>>81021127

>TV show

It's a netflix series, a relatively new genre different in its execution from what traditional TV series are, there are no mid-season finales, hiatuses, breaks etc.

Daredevil, House of Cards etc are handled like films with a run time of 12 hours.
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>>81020441
better go back in time then, he's been that way for years
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>>81021179
Deep Philosophical Drama
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>>81021192
The "film" being referenced in this case is Daredevil though. Anon's point of reference for the other guy having not seen it was Anon taking "beaten to death" literally, which DD did not do in the show.
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for fuck's sake can we at least wait until some of us have actually seen the movie to shit on it? Can't it wait a day or two?
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>>81018210

OP, please calm down and drink some Peach Tea.
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>>81021181

So your criticism about Snyder films is that Superman isn't fighting like a mixed martial artist? Don't know if you know this...but when Superman fights, a lot of buildings collapse.

If Netflix Daredevil was a MCU film, you think critics would be okay with all the gore and blood and that parents would take their kids to see it? Really dude?
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I'm more excited for seeing the Half in the Bag episode about this movie than seeing this movie.
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>>81020386
>Batman branded a guy
The fuck?
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>>81021193
IT'S NOT TV. IT'S HBO.
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>>81021257

That's enough shilling for one day
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So the people shitposting about this movie have seen it right? They're not just parroting what reviewers said and pretending they saw it right?
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>>81021250
Not that Anon, but critics fucking loved Deadpool and that pushed the R rating to the max.
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>>81021294
It's the truth. I'm not really looking forward to seeing the actual movie; all the reviews say it's long and boring.
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Thank god Captain America is next month to wash this taste out our mouths
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>>81020895
doesn't say but it shreds a car with people inside

>>81020918
I guess speculated because we don't see the corpses, car full of people crushed completely, and then whipped into another car full of people. There was also a semi trailer with like 4 people in it, batman crashes into it, then there is only one left
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>>81020756
Stick with your Bat of Murder, DChill.
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>>81021279
>The fuck?
>I don't read comics
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>>81018487
Only movie I watched on theaters twice was 'The Winter Soldier', and only because a friend of mine didn't want to go alone.
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>>81021110
>it's a Snyder takes a cue from H.R. Giger episode

Fucking why?
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>>81020843
This sounds awful.
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>>81021279
Batman has knuckle dusters with Bats on them that leave a permanent mark when he punches someone in the face.

Although after thinkin about that for more than 30 seconds that seems like it wouldn't be a deterrent but rather it would lead to a lot of bragging rights in prison. It'd show you survived an encounter with the Bat and would be tougher than most.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcF48z6TVf4
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>>81021329
not gonna lie, I'm such a Captain America mark that part of me is really happy that we're potentially going to live in a world where a Captain America movie outgrosses a Batman and Superman movie.

but I'd rather BvS just be good to be perfectly honest with you :(
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>>81021329
Remember when BvS and Civil War were set to premier on the same day?
Thank God WB backed out, seeing as how mods are deleting posts and threads left and right, /co/ would've fucking exploded.
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>>81021383
Because it's deep and philosophical
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>>81021411
Can you imagine the threads? The review embargoes would have been lifted on the same day too. The shitstorm would have been glorious
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>>81021444
maybe this is why Snyder had those comments about a month ago that he was worried that people were too stupid to understand the movie

he was readying excuses because he realized the movie sucked
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>Everyone praising Snyder before today and hyping this shit up
>I'm the only one that hated him and thought his castings for the DC universe were trash apart from Perry, Clark and Lois
feels good when you expected this shit to implode from the start
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>>81018808
What were the first two?
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>>81021411
I was really looking forward to that madness
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>>81021444
Nigga should have gone balls-out crazy with the shit then. It would have at least made for an interesting viewing.
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>>81021383
Giger designs a painting/structure based on something sexual then builds onto it.

Snyder strapped a rocket on a dildo and called it a day.
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>>81021411
>Implying it still won't
>implying people won't start shitting all over again when cw comes out
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>>81021484
You weren't the only one. It doesn't feel good though. I wish I was wrong.
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>>81021485
Jonah Hex and Green Lantern I'm guessing
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>>81018349
What am I missing?
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>>81019242
>current year
>still 4chaning with a pc
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Thats what you get for talking shit about BASED ANTS to promote your own shit movie.
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The template for how to make a great Batman movie laid out by Christopher Nolan in his Dark Knight trilogy—grounded characters, a somber tone, believable emotional stakes—has now been pureed by Man of Steel filmmaker Zack Snyder into this indigestible, posturing, two-and-a-half-hour mope-fest. In the past, the man behind Watchmen, 300, and Sucker Punch has let style suffocate substance, but even his misfires have always had a welcome kink or spark to them. By comparison, Batman v Superman is simply soulless, which is strange for a film whose main characters are supposedly plumbing the depths of their souls most of the time.
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>>81021190
Deadpool was the edgiest superhero movie, and balanced drama and humor better than just about anything from the MCU. The entire lab sequence was straight up terrifying.
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>>81021411
>>81021506
We're just going to get back to back months of shitposting. Just kill me now
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>>81021314

Yes they loved it cause it was comedic violence
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>>81021538
>by Christopher Nolan
Tim Burton*
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>>81018487
Nah, I'm gonna see Deadpool for a third time.
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>>81021538

>Pretending like TDK would succeed if it came out today
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>>81021537
>talking shit about ANTS
Explain!
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>>81021504
>shneider had some CGI nerd strap a rocket on a dildo and called it a day

Is what you meant. Giger also knew how to make horror arousing. I don't think Schnederlink know how to arouse a nympho. Or the audience's brain for that matter.
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>>81021539
Deadpool felt more like a comic book than any movie I've ever seen. I say that to its credit.
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>>81020937
People here have seen it already Dkek
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>>81018487

Seeing it once

For free

I work the closing shift as a projectionist.
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>>81021250
Jesus christ dude, what are you talking about? It's context. There's no levity or Joy to justify the destruction and ends up being like watching someone else's fetish porn: it's not just that it bothers you because it's not your thing, it bothers you because you know Snyder is creaming himself over it.

It's bleak, dour, unearned and honestly dull. It's destruction/violence fetishized without substance or any particular style to be frank. There's no joy, no purpose, no meaning. They fight because that's what they do. But without any self-awareness or purpose other than fighting.

>inb4 what does joyless mean

It's a fucking emo movie without Tim Burton's modern aesthetic to cover it's ass. It's an evanescence song song put to film. It's adolescent and tryhard and honestly insulting to watch.

What more can I say? Daredevil has it, Spartacus had it, Matrix had it, Dexter had it, Nolan has it, and they are all 'dark' in some aspect and I hate half of those. But they have purpose and style to it.

Snyder can't connect to people, he just thinks he's deep, but he's not. You know that feeling you have when you think how you were 5 years ago? What an imbecile self-absorbed naive prick you were? That's a regular feeling that everyone shares thoughout life about their 5-years-younger self. That's growing up. Snyder doesn't have that. He's stuck at 14 years old.

And if his cinematography is always so good and pretty, why not just put the DP directing? I'm sure he'd do a better job with characterization.
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>>81021598
>I work the closing shift as a projectionist.

nothing to be bragging about kid
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>>81021591
>felt more like a comic book

You do know that there are different genres of comic books right?
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>>81018487
you don't know me, man.
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>>81021586
>Zack Snyder, who directed Man Of Steel, is currently putting the finishing touches to Batman v Superman: Dawn Of Justice, and has been tasked with forging Warner Bros.’ DC universe, was asked for his opinion on Steven Spielberg’s recent comments that the superhero genre will ultimately go the way of the Dodo and the Western. Snyder then admitted that he believes Spielberg’s assertion was correct, before then explaining how Batman and Superman won’t be troubled by the potential demise of the superhero film because they transcend it. Snyder remarked:

>"I feel like he’s right. But I feel like Batman and Superman are transcendent of superhero movies in a way, because they’re Batman and Superman. They’re not just, like, the flavour of the week Ant-Man – not to be mean, but whatever it is. What is the next Blank-Man?"
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It was bad enough that Man of Steel trampled on the memory of the first two good Superman movies. Now Snyder has gone and ruined Batman, too.
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>>81021539
It also balanced it better than anything in the DCEU.
We live in a universe where Deadpool is probably going to end up the best cape movie this year.
Every day I wake up and wonder if I'm on drugs.
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>>81021588
Rest in peace, Hans.
We miss you.
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>>81021619
Why is he so far up his own ass, bros?
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>>81018210
https://www.instagram.com/justice.league.memes/
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>>81021611
duh. That's basically the point.
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>>81021619
>trying to talk shit before you even have a universe up and running
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>>81018487
Piracy is a wonderful thing
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>>81021523
I think anon meant that RT is a review aggregator.

Rotten Tomatoes doesn't write original reviews outside of their "critic consensus". So the OP picture is fucking stupid, since RT has no voice if its own. It's just reporting on what everyone else thinks.

RT is just an easy source to blame/support what critics think of your favorite movie. Beyond that, it's an empty shell.

Personally, I'm not surprised the movie did not well critically. Snyder has never been a critical darling, so why would BvS fare any differently? This is just par the course.
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How the fuck did you make Superman least interesting character in the movie?
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>>81020864
J-JUST WAIT FOR THE DIRECTORS CUT
CULT CLASSIC, YOU'LL SEE
Damnit, DC, just let the TV people take over everything non-comic already.
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>>81021619
He sounds like he doesn't even know who Ant-Man is to begin with.
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>>81021647
>tfw Prometheus killed Giger
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>>81021652
Because whenever he makes a shit movie everyone blames everyone else except him. They'll blame the writers, the studios, the critics, the audiences, but Snyder is made of teflon or something. He just keeps failing upwards and getting bigger and bigger franchises and fatter and fatter checks.
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>>81021603

I feel like people like you go into the movie with your nose high in the air with a motive to criticize at all times cause you think director x is a hack.

>There's no joy, no purpose, no meaning

What in the world are you even talking about? Have you even seen the film?

You could have spared yourself all those sentences to just say you hate Zack Snyder and everything he touches.
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>>81018487
Yeah I'll see it. Streams are still free after all.
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>>81021652
because he's "smarter" then us.
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>>81021619
What a fucking cunt.
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>>81021016
Hoping it gets higher but I've seen a couple of online reviews on YT and it seems like they're not very far off.
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Interesting. I assume DC fans can't be too excited over this. I wonder what the ramifications are for the DCEU
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>>81021661

No it isn't, because you think that a "comic book movie" has to be a certain way, and that you think Deadpool making fun of fighting in tights and not taking himself seriously is how Superman should be too.

That's literally why one of the reviews I read said, "Wait for the next Marvel movie" because mongoloids somehow believe comic books are meant to be childish light hearted little comedies.
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>>81021619
Oh my God this is delicious.

It's just like that one comment Michael B. Jordan made.
>"It doesn't matter that Johnny is black, everyone's gonna see the movie anyway."

This is good.
This is sooooooo good.
And we haven't even reached the backpeddling part yet.
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>>81021693
>just let the TV people take over everything non-comic already.

What TV people? All their shows are fucking canceled because CN are assholes.
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>>81021696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg4OCeSTL08

if only
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I honestly can't wrap my head around the fact that Zack Snyder is the hill so many of you are willing to die on.
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>>81021619
>this hack dissed ANT

deserved to bomb
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>>81021745
Wait, Flash and Arrow are cancelled?
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>>81021740
Sure are a lot of assumptions in your post. I said Deadpool felt the most like a comic book because it felt like I was watching a Deadpool comic. If Superman came off like a Deadpool comic it'd be shitty. If Superman came off like the Superman comics I've read and enjoyed, that'd be great.
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>>81021693
> just let the TV people take over

Yes we need more Felicity teen soap opera drama on the big screen.
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>>81020553
There's plenty of sitting and talking before wars.
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>>81021712
I really, really hate Zach Snyder and everythign he touches.

I hate this word, but he's the definition of pretentious. He literally thinks he's smarter than he actually is, and it shows in his work. If he just kept making black/white morality, action-packed, CGI-laden popcorn movies, he would've fared fine. Instead, he thought himself better on the cinematic high horse, where he most certainly doesn't belong.

It's his own fault, and everyone else's fault for thinking he's better than he is at what he does.
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>>81018210
You can make all of those themes (which the movie doesn't have btw.) exciting and fun. You can make almost any shit exciting and fun.

BvS is just a shit movie. It's as simple as that.
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>>81021740
I like serious movies, I enjoy them more than I enjoy marvel shit but the issue here is not whether DC movies should be more like marvel, but about the execution being good, and DC has not executed as good as Marvel because fucking Snyder sucks.
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>>81021779
I attribute it to stubbornness about Man of Steel. If you cornered most DC fanboys I think they'd admit they still think Man of Steel was a great movie.
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>>81021762
If nothing else, that movie got him and O'Bannon attached to Alien. It would have been a mess unlike anything the world has ever seen, I'm still conflicted about it not getting made.
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>>81021610
a job is a job mate
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>>81021788
Oh, shit I'm retarded. That stuff just flew past my head. Either way, maybe get the Flash people but not the Arrow ones. Guggenheim has already ruined one movie.
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>>81020109
It means the sort of film that is supposed to dazzle you to the point that you are not aware of whats going on around you, eat your popcorn real fast.

I'll leave it to Eddie to explain it better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjC3R6jOtUo
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>>81019391
>FUCK YOU FALLOUT 4, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE GREAT.

Are you fucking shitting me? You thought a Fallout game made by Bethesda would be great? Do you people seriously just not pay attention? Bethesda has never made a good Fallout. Zack Snyder has never made a good movie. Why put so much blind faith in people who deserve none?
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>People are now shitposting about movies they didn't watch
Truly we have become /v/
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>>81021810
So does Nolan.
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>>81021844
I think it's cool anon.
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>>81021692
Wasn't this a MoS sequel too? Incredible.
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>>81021741
That whole situation was delicious
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>>81021869
>Truly we have become /v/

We've been there for a few years now. People shitpost about books they don't read, it's not like this is gonna be any different.
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>>81021712
I have seen it, though.

Me hating the movie is not a consequence of hating Zack Snyder, it's the other way around.

I actually had high hopes for it after they delayed it 2 years. I thought hat they were doing something really great with time and preparation, and the trailers looked okay. I like the aesthetic on it's own, but the lack of decent characterization or faith in the source material leaves it feeling either pretentious or childish. Like a turd wrapped with nice packaging. You know that whoever did it had to go through more trouble than just take a shit, which is even more aggravating.

People waited for three years for them to put the same shit on the plate. Shame on us, I guess.

I'm now wondering if it is a result of just bad editing or bad directing overall. I'd like to see the original Goyer script if this is the corrected version. But I'm done trying to explain it to you.
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>>81021856
Eh, like >>81021794 pointed out, we don't want the teen drama bullshit ride to extend to the silver screen.
I guess the point I wanted to make was, the people in charge of TV know how to put together teams that will design shit that their target audiences will love, the people in charge of the movies need to start doing that.

Come to think of it, isn't Cereal Lord Johns in charge of the cinematic universe?
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>>81021585
What makes you think wouldn't? The Nolan movies were both dark in tone and some subject matter while being "fun". Are you DCucks really going run "they just hate it because its not fun!!" argument to the ground?
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>>81021821

>DC can't execute

Lol piss off, I see idiots on here hating on Christopher Nolan and TDK damn near everyday. If that movie came out today, the comments about how edgy and non-funny the Joker is would be endless, yet cause it came out before Marvel took over, it got its rightful rating though it was far from quippy and funny.
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Pls no bully, Cap would be disappointed in us.

>tfw I will never see Superman and Cap in the same movie in my life time
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>>81020836
Isn't because Daredevil is basically CSI with some masked dudes hanging around? The writers have a solid formula to follow.

Anyway, I've never liked Man of Murder and BvS seems to make the same mistakes
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>>81021933
TDK had shitposters about it when it came out. You're just too young to remember it apparently.
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>>81021932

Hard pressed to think of a single "fun" moment from the Nolan movies that today's audience would enjoy cause reviewers seem to believe comic movies ought not to take themselves too seriously.


>DCucks

Take your petty console wars rhetoric back to /tv/
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>>81021933
Yeah, but you got to admit TDKR was very shitty.

DC can't execute.
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>>81019040
This is even further beyond 8.8. 8.8 was retards mad an okay game got an okay score instead of a perfect 10. This is retards mad a shit movie got a shit score instead of a perfect 10. I call this... 8.8.2
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>>81021894
Yes but this time we have review score threads to go with it :^)
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>>81021619
>What is the next Blank-Man?"
But Blank-Man already exist Synder, it was made in the 90s
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>>81018210
Y'know, I thought you were shitposting, but the more reviews I read, the more true that becomes.

I hope the DCCU goes full grimdark, if only out of spite.

Give me hardboiled Batman solving Se7en-tier fucked up mysteries & cases.

Give me Big Boss Superman struggling to help a world that rejects him and refuses change.

Give me Wonder Woman who has seen all of humanity's wickedness across thousands of years of history.

Give me Green Lantern locked in brutal and endless interstellar wars and battling cosmic horrors.

Give me Flash slowly losing himself to the extradimensional and mindshettering power of the Speed Force.

Fuck yeah. Make the Emprah proud.
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>>81018924
Here's the quandary I find myself in - Man of Steel was a fucking mess, but there were still good things about it even though the total package didn't work out. It wasn't good, but it had enough going for it to at least be entertaining.

Same thing can be said for The Amazing Spider-Man 2... it was a fucking train wreck, but again there were enough decent things about it that you didn't just get out of your seat and walk out halfway through.


... everything I've seen posted about the reviews for BvS suggest that it's fucking abysmal - hell, at 42% it's technically worse reviewed than fucking Green Hornet at this point - and that's what has me so baffled. Even if it's got it's head up it's ass, surely there ought to be a few things about it that are good enough to be entertaining, right?


Otherwise this could be the biggest big budget flop since Waterworld...


... which incidentally ALSO has a 42% on RT.
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>>81021968

>too young to remember

Stop projecting. It had its critics, but none of them were saying "Wait for the next Marvel movie" as a criticism.
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>>81021893
And we all get to relive it a second time.
I don't think I have enough pictures of anime girls who are about to sneeze to express my joy.
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Why do people constantly confuse serious with smart? Just because something is serious doesn't mean it's smart. Man of Steel was serious and stupid.
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>>81021873
Same guy, and fuck Nolan. He's smarter and more skilled than Snyder, but that's not saying much. He's never made an essential movie. TDK succeeded mostly, if not only, because of Ledger's performance. The writing was weak and full of holes, the directing was mediocre at best. Any scene without the Joker was forgettable and bland. I did like Eckhart as Two-Face, but I just like Eckhart as an actor.

With Ledger as the Joker, any director could've succeeded. Nolan was lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time.
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>>81022003
Seriously? Last Stand rates higher?

Dear god!
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>>81022007
Kill yourself, seriously. I'm saying this as a DCfag.
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>>81022007

>Flash movie

Ha, this has me thinking that even the flash movie won't be well received cause people now are so used to quipy Cisco and Wells.

When The Flash movie eventually comes out, you'll be reading the same reviews you're seeing now.
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Snyder right before MoS came out.

>"Really, Thor? Thor, has a movie? Like, really. I mean, come on - and there is no Superman movie? The world's out of balance. It's like we've lost our minds here, people. Come on."

http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/zack-snyder-slams-thor-and-says-superman-needs-be-fixed-man-steel-2012#axzz43kSwpxSE

He needs to stop trash-talking Marvel, it has a monkey's paw effect.
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>>81022003
>NINE PERCENT
Just Fantastic my Four up
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>>81021948

What the fuck?

Why is /co/ the only board that i see posting tumblr gifs?

Jesus, and some faggots still dare to deny that this place is /co/mblr
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>>81022015
>it had its critics
I'm not projecting, you clearly weren't here when TDK came out. Difference was TDK was a good movie so it didn't really matter what haters had to say.
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>>81022075
Man, fuck this pretentious cunt. He deserves every bad review he gets.
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>"WB execs are shitting their pants. If [Batman V Superman] makes less than a billion, [Zack] Snyder is out and Justice League will be delayed 8 months."
>"Chris Nolan is being courted as a producer and George Miller, David Yates, Louis Letterier, and Vincenzo Natali are all being courted to take over Justice League."

soon
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>>81022086
You obviously don't leave this board much
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>>81021948
That might be a good think. Cavill's Superman would probably just pout in the background while Cap actually does all the work.
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>>81022075
wew
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>>81022007
>I hope the DCCU goes full grimdark, if only out of spite
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>>81022075
Thor 2 was a better Superman movie than MoS.

At least Thor seemed happy to be there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10kkPoTal_A
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>>81022101
fuck this makes me want not to go see it just so Snyder fucks off.
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>>81022108

That must be you becauyse actually /co/ is my least visited board
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>>81022061
Why? It's all true. Just read some reviews, you'll see.
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>>81022048
Heat Legend managed to salvage that shitty script. And that performance I don't think is nearly as good as you claim it to be. His best film I think will forever be Memento.
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>>81021973
Please.

>Nearly all of Bruce's quips
>Nearly all of Alfred's quips
>Nurse Joker
>Magic trick.
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>>81022075
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>>81022123
>mind the gap
ah, memories
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>>81019505
>Both great directors.

No

At least Michael Bay has box office successes, but M. Night Shymalan is irredeemably awful
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>>81022101
Source?
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>>81022123
I fucking hate both of those movies. I wanted to disagree with you but I can't bring myself to defend MoS. I just wanted to say they're equally bad in my mind though, superhero movies don't get worse than those two
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>>81022123
The final fight was the only good part of Thor 2. The worst part was everything involving Portman. Thank God the Ragnarok takes place in space and has no humans in it.
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>>81022086
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>>81022101
Even with all the bad press, I'm not worried that there's enough shit taste casuals out there for BvS to make its money back and more. I mean, just look at this thread. Anal anguished faggots are promising to go see it multiple times to make sure their beloved Snydershit doesn't fail.
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>>81022075
>"Really, Thor? Thor, has a movie? Like, really. I mean, come on
I MEAN COME ON IT'S 2013

ONLY A-LISTERS DESERVE MOVIES, WHO CARES ABOUT OTHER COMIC BOOK CHARACTERS LOL
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>>81022092

>here

Here as in /co/? Not a lot of people here today were posting here 8 years ago I'd imagine. And I'm going by the mainstream view.

>It was a good movie

Yes it was, but if it came out today it'd get picked apart for the same reasons that BvS is.

>Way too serious
>Not muh joker
>Not muh Harvey
>Not enough quips
>Why is batman blasting up cars in a parking lot with kids still inside them? bat of murder!
>Not enough female and minority characters!
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>>81022132
>becauyse

And I can only guess you're from /v/ or /tv/ , in which case I can only laugh at you man
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>>81022194
>I-If it came out today!
kill yourself
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>>81022101
>George Miller.

Didn't he say he had no interest in making it?
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>>81022199
Not him, but picking on an obvious mistype(u is next to y you fucking mong) is silly beyond belief,
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>>81022194
>Way too serious
Incorrect senor, critics say that BvS fails at being serious and it's not fun either. If it was good at being a serious movie I'm sure critics would like it, much like how they liked the Dark Knight.
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>>81022132
Both /a/ and /v/, the most populous places, regularly post tumblr shit with tumblr file names.

Tumblr is a major image source and host nowadays. Even just googling simple shit will often get you an image from it. Most people don't give a fuck about where a picture came from, they just want the image that fits. You act like posting an image from tumblr means someone is trawling through there everyday, arguing about privileged or something, as that's obviously the only way anyone would ever have an image from it.

The filter that tumblr people put on gifs is dumb as shit and I have no fucking clue why they do it. I guess to be special artsy fartsy snow flakes.
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>>81022149
>And that performance I don't think is nearly as good as you claim it to be
I think it was a solid 8/10. Suffered from too much method acting based around the wrong, or a different, character.

I like Memento, and I like The Prestige, but they don't matter in cinematic history. That doesn't mean they can't be enjoyed, but in the long run, they won't be viewed as anything noteworthy.
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>>81021933

>If that movie came out today, the comments about how edgy and non-funny the Joker is would be endless,

You have anything to base this on other than Snyder's poor reception? Still unwilling to accept the more likely possibility that Snyder just isn't very good? Also, have you seen Snyder's movies? Why are you assuming that this movie is any better than his past work?
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>>81022229
Well duh

It's not like I'm just fucking with them as they get all pissy over a single image post
oh wait yeah I am
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>>81022227
He'll probably be too busy doing Mad Max 5: /tv/ rages again. And making a shitload of shekels and an action film with coherent action scenes
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>>81022154

>Bruce's quips

Where? Seriously when does he quip in the movie? His gf gets killed and he goes full emo. Alfred tells a story about a tangerine which would turn into a huge meme today.

>Magic trick

Yeah the scene where someone got a pencil shoved into his eye

Try harder.
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GUYS I GOT IT, FOLLOW ME HERE,
>Amazing Spider-Man 2 gets panned
>Marvel buys the rights back from Sony

>Fantastic 9% gets panned
>talks of Marvel discussing contracts with FOX

>BvS gets panned

See where I'm going with this?
Avengers vs Justice League confirmed.
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>>81022250

Learn how to read. I'm basing this off of the fact that the movie came out before Marvel had a huge monopoly in the superhero movies genre.

Don't talk to me about Zack Snyder cause I'm literally not interested on what your personal feelings are about him.
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>>81018687
^this statement triggers the fucks making the vast amount of hidden advertising and, dare I use /pol/speak, shilling in this thread. Keep it up
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Remember when people thought MOS was bad and it wasn't

its that all over again.
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>>81018794
Underrated post.
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>>81018210
To alll my DC friends, leave this board and site.
Don't let the shitposting, irony, criticism get to you, watch the movie and judge for yourself.
This movie was made for you, it has an incredibly rich story and A LOT of stuff that will go over people's head.
Oh, and listen to this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdc6QjBNOOU
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>>81022281
>Seriously when does he quip in the movie?

"I'm going to tell them it was all your idea."

"No, but I know how you got these scars."

It's a stupid shitposting criticism anyway; superheroes have always quipped.
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>>81022123
I liked the bit where he hung his hammer on the coat hanger.

I wouldn't really compare TDW to MoS positively, though. I'm not sure I could really compare them at all, beyond both kind of failing to evoke the proper reactions or pull off the things similar movies have done much better.
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>>81022316
ill never get tired of the damage control
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>>81022301
Fox had Deadpool. DC will have Suicide Squad.
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>>81022316
>MoS
>Not bad

I don't remember anything about the movie other than the fight scenes and him letting his dad die in a tornado.
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>>81022301
Avengers fight Darkseid before Kang.
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>>81022275
Well when you put it like that, I'm more excited for another Mad Max than for JL.

I'm sure there are other good directors they can choose for JL.
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>>81022333

You're seriously missing the point being made here.

>I know how you got these scars

How in the world is that a quip?
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>>81022316
No, but I remember when MoS was a soulless pile of shit that somehow got very sensitive and dedicated defenders.
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>>81022240
FUCK YOU!
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>>81022281
Other than the scene where Bruce fires Alfred and after his parents get killed he spends the whole trilogy quipping with Alfred, Lucius and Selina
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>>81022301
Jesus christ, could you imagine how much money a Marvel&DC movie would make?

There's nowhere to go from there.
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>>81022316
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>>81022319
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>>81022316
>MoS
>not bad
I'm tired of this meme.
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>>81022312
So you have nothing but speculation then? No reason to assume today's audiences would reject the Dark Knight other than feelings? I'm asking how does Marvel making successful silly movies change what audiences will accept and all I'm hearing is a bunch of baseless assumption.
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>>81022374
It's a witty remark. It's humorous because Batman is reversing the Joker's signature line about his scars right before finally using his Chekov's gauntlets from the beginning of the movie to beat the bad guy.
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>>81022316
>and it wasn't
What's life like on Bizarro World?
>>
I wasn't here 3 years ago. How bad was MOS's initial rating?
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So did they tone down the advertisements?

Those may have been the worst fucking thing about MoS.

If this movie mentions IHOP three times before setting a fight in one I'm gonna be a little heartbroken.
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>>81019967
If it were made nowadays, people would definitely have a problem with Ledger's lifeless performance.
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>>81022487
Almost every site dedicated to comic books rated it as one of the best superhero movies ever, kind of this movie's initial fans/regular people reaction. Then the RT score started at about 70% and went down fast.
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>>81022487
After the first 50 reviews the RT ratings always stay around 5% the same
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>>81019954
This always makes me smile. Fuck Snyder.
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>>81022541
>Ledger's lifeless performance
Buh-dum-tssh
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>>81022525
>Armored Batman punches Supes into an IHOP
>Leaps in after him
>"Welcome to the International House..."
>Picks up Supes by the neck
>"of Pain."
>Bat-punch
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>>81018496
>>81018487

JUST

DAMAGE


CONTROL
>>
Two days ago
>So you marvel drones ready to eat your words?

Today
>People just universally think it's mediocre because they don't GET it

I wanted this movie to be good, just another good movie for me to enjoy. But I'm happy that it ended up bad enough that everyone knows it failed, but not so bad that the DC bros can't try and defend it. This is the second best outcome really.
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>>81022452

>I'm asking how does Marvel making successful silly movies change what audiences will accept and all I'm hearing is a bunch of baseless assumption.

It's not speculation when LITERALLY one of the top critic reviews tells people to wait for the next Marvel movie. Go on RottenTomato and troll through the reviews if you must you gremlin.

>feelings

Yeah it's feelings why "Marvel Drones" and "DCucks" exist in the first place. Idiots just can't watch movies for what they were, they have to have an allegiance to a particular studio or comic company and throw objectivity out the window.
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>>81022541
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>>81021411
Justice league is still set to premier next to Infinite War
prepare yourselfs
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>>81022591
>Almost every site dedicated to comic books rated it as one of the best superhero movies ever

What?

Most of the comic fans at the time were raging about MoS. I am not a huge DC fan and actually didn't mind it, but at my local comic shop the DC fans who meet every wednesday after work were fucking bitter.

>Superman doesn't kill
>superman doesn't stand by and watch people die
>Superman brought the fight from a rural farm into a city, simply in an effort to get more sponsor $$$$
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>>81020386
>KGBeast
Of all the characters I never thought would make it to film
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>>81022683
>


>Yeah it's feelings why "Marvel Drones" and "DCucks" exist in the first place. Idiots just can't watch movies for what they were, they have to have an allegiance to a particular studio or comic company and throw objectivity out the window.

Seriously think about this for second. Because you're the guy defending a movie he hasn't even seen, claiming people who have seen it were just watching it wrong or whatever, even going so far as to craft the narrative that another really popular movie would get the same treatment if it was released today.

I'm not even saying that Rottentomatoes is necessarily right. Im just saying, it's fucking occam's razor. Is it more likely that Snyder made a bad movie, or that the entire world collectively decided they weren't going to like Snyder's movies no matter what? More likely that a movie that tried to be serious missed the mark, or that everyone did a 180 and decided they hate serious?

At least see the movie yourself before you decide how wrong everyone is for not liking it.
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>>81021383
Because it is the only way to stop the xenomorph nightmares.
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>>81022742
>Superman brought the fight from a rural farm into a city, simply in an effort to get more sponsor $$$$
This was by far the stupidest shit.
Ok, Zod targets Metropolis with the terraform beam to get back at Kal-El, I get it. The fight takes place in Metropolis because that's where Zod and his machine are. But purposefully punching the other Kryptonians away from deserted farmlands and into downtown Smallville was BEYOND retarded.
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>>81022742
I'm not shitting you, i was there.
BleedingCool, comicbook.com, comicbookmovie, ComicVine, all of them were praising the movie. That was before or around the time the RT score was released.
And no, most comic fans familiar with post-crisis Superman did enjoy the movie. Though maybe you're talking about those "fans" that have never read a comic in their life.
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>1000+ scores from the audience with most people giving it 5 stars
>a movie that isn't even out in America yet
Yeah because this movie really deserves to be rated at the same level of recently released great movies like Sicario and Bridge of Spies and directors like Snyder and Kaufman are actually misunderstood geniuses who don't get praise from critics
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>>81023105
>BleedingCool, comicbook.com, comicbookmovie, ComicVine, all of them were praising the movie.

What great pedigree there
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>>81023157
>bridge of spies
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Man, what a disaster. I was secretly hoping it'd fail, but I guess be careful what you wish for.

I feel like I need to see it a couple of times now, just on principal. And for Cavill's sake.
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>>81019934
Sure thing, friendo
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>>81022679
Man did I see this coming a mile away
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>>81022679
I also wanted this movie to do well, I mean, be honest, who wouldn't want DC's B to Z listers to finally be in a movie?

I guess Hack Snyder doesn't, >>81022075
and that's one of the main reasons why this movie ended up sucking, because he wanted to do his own thing without realizing why did the MCU got so succesful.

I only hope now that DC will fire him before he gets to touch Justice League, and someone who actually tries to read comics/actually tries to go for a movie that is not a bore-fest can move that movie in a good shape (inb4 the movie gets cancelled, though.)
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