Really?

My hopes of seeing the DC cinematic universe pan out was one of the few things stopping me from killing myself

What should I do now?

Anon, you don't understand. It wasn't FUN enough! Where were the quips and the jokes and the memes?!

>>81014858
Watch the DCAU cartoons

>>81014862
Fun =/= funny.

Nolan's movies were fun.

>>81014862
>it wasn't fun so it was panned just like The Dark Knight

>>81014847
Fuck WB. Fuck Snyder. DC deserves better.

>>81014881

lol no

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>>81014869
This.

Are DC movies dead now?

>>81014858

Go back and watch the Justice League cartoon. It's better than any live action superhero thing ever. And there's a lot of it.

>>81014911
It's good, but it didn't have nearly enough of my favorite superhero.

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>>81014862

It's got memes! MMM BOYS! PEE!

>>81014847
Hey! We went up 1%. That's pretty good,

>>81014923

Who's that?

>>81014862
It's not like baneposting/why so serious didn't got abused by the internet,right?

>>81014939
It was 38% earlier, then dropped to 36%. I expect it'll settle somewhere around Man of Steel in the end (56%, if I recall correctly), maybe slightly higher.

>>81014858
Wait and see if Suicide Squad manages to save this clusterfuck that WB has gotten themselves into.

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>>81014902
>Are DC movies dead now?

Nah, if it makes a billion somehow they will keep flogging increasingly awful films out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdUa13gwgQ0

>>81014948
Those just became memes because people latched onto them. They weren't written to be that. Marvel stuff is intentionally written to appeal to the internet.

>>81014946
Captain Marvel

>>81014847
I don't know if it's good or bad.

It shows DC putting Batman in everything doesn't work everytime.
But knowing DC they may decide to do just Batman stuff for next decade.

I wish Ladderbro was here so he could regale us with his rapier wit.

37% is decent and pretty good.

>>81014999

Well the good news is, the proposed Captain Marvel movie is separate from the rest of the DC movies, apparently.

The bad news is, all those plans might change now that BvS is a resounding thud.

>DC fans will continue to defend shit depictions of their favorite characters which will lead to more shit movies leading to more defending
It's not a good cycle to be in

>>81015015
1% worse than X-Men Origins: Wolverine, bro.

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>>81014977

>Their entire shtick is to be contrarian

>They can't even get that right

>>81014858
Life is worth a lot more than some shitty film.

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can we just have a justice league vs avengers movie now!?!

>>81015014
I'm waiting til I see it, honestly. I do not shit on stuff I haven't seen.

>>81015015
I agree. Where I come from, that's only a B-.

>>81015021
That can only be good news. We actually get some good DC movies who look and feel true to the comics played by real actors.

Off with Snyder's head.

>>81014847
Uh-oh! Spaghetti-O's!

>>81015058

If you get 85%, does your teacher give you a blowjob?

>>81015058
Yes but you take a short bus.

>>81014972
HOPEFULLY it means they give snyder the boot

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>>81015065
>We actually get some good DC movies who look and feel true to the comics
Historically, when has WB made that sort of DC movie?

>>81014847
Sadly, it is legit bad...WB better kick Snyder out asap, he's bad news.

>>81015073
No, that's only for 90% and above.
She lets you ride her strap-on if you get 85% though. That's pretty much about as good, right?

Maybe Disney should have bought DC in the 70's instead of WB.

>Snyder is still directing Justice League

Jesus Christ, FUCKING SACK HIM

>>81015085
Reeve

What were WB expecting from Zack Synder anyway?

>caring about critic reviews when it is the audience revenue that really matters

>>81015093
Only bad box office can kill him off of this.

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>>81015054
this

>>81015095
So the late 70's.
and arguable two Batman films in the 80's.

DC BTFO

Zack: Look how pretty this scene is! Look how gorgeous the visuals are! Man, so dark and gritty!
Audience: Uh yeah that's nice, but where's the story?
Zack: Story?
Audience: Yeah, you know, the reason why we go see movies? Why cinema is loved by so many? Movies are a form of storytelling, to see a character's journey and feel for their struggles, hopes and dreams, to hopefully be amazed with something new and novel, to watch something that hopefully leaves a mark on you, a story that make you think about life itself. Just like all the great auteur directors like Kubrick and those from the past, sought out to do. Not throwing cars in the air and huge explosions to muh dark gritty teenage angst shit.
Zack: Fuck that shit, oh god, this is the best part, look at all that cgi! Man, look at Superman flying with his beautiful manly dick sticking out, I'm jerking off right now.

Ben was great. Zack is to blame. He'll get fired fortunately.

>>81015091
Maybe Disney should buy DC now.

Or do it like the current Spider-Man situation with Sony where the better company supports his otouto.

>>81015099
Did you mean review?
Because I don't own enough WB stock to care about the revenue.

>>81015096
According to someone at superherohype Snyder was the last choice for MOS, they couldn't get anyone else. I think the problem now is that I doubt many directors are going to want to take over justice league.

This is a joke right?

>>81015114
While I don't doubt Disney would do a much better job making movies than Warner Bros. is, I don't like the idea of Disney owning everything. Monopolies are bad. WB just needs new management, period.

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>>81015111
>Ben was great.

Batman/Bruce is the most rote and unchallenging damatic role of the last 100 years.

All you have to convey is that your PARENTS ARE DEEEAAAD! and that you are fairly upset about it.

Anyone can growl in a rubber suit.

WHEN'S THE REBOOT COMING?!

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Can I just kill myself now or should I wait to see it tomorrow and then kill myself

>>81015135
Flashpoint asap I guess.

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>>81014881
Are you fucking serious?

>>81014881
>Nolan's movies were fun.

If you think grimdark melodrama and overacting is fun, sure.

>>81015132
Ironically old friend, that's what I was saying ages ago in one of our spats about Affleck.

>>81015141

Just go home and watch the first two Christopher Reeve movies again after seeing it. After seeing MoS, I was convinced that I hated Superman. But re-watching the good movies made me realize I don't hate Superman, I just hope whoever is in charge at WB/DC gets flogged to death.

>>81015153
Yes, but with acting heavyweights Gal and Henry, you needed SOMEONE who could propel a dramatic narrative.

Instead it seems we got Eisenberg tittering like an twit.

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Yfw this picture was accurate

I'm bummed, not so much for Snyder since you could see this coming a mile away, but for the other DC films which may never get made. I was willing to give Miller Flash a chance.

Look at the bright side. Maybe WB will make the CW shows the primary Earth for the movies too so we can have a Crisis and shit with Snyder's rejects.

What did you people fucking expect. Its a Snyder movie.

Maybe BvS should have been 'R'?

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>>81015153
Now we get:
" I HATE YOU, MY PARENTS ARE DEAD!!! YOU FRIGHTEN EVERYONE"
"Wait, your entire idiom is striking fear into the populace so they behave...."
"HAAATE YOU, WE GONNA FIGHT, PARENTS DEEAAAAD!!!"

>>81015163
>acting heavyweights
>Gal and Henry
Oh fuck off. they're both mediocre.

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>>81015150
You don't?

>>81014847
Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman straight to video then.

DC needs some time out.

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>Challenging the Mouse

You all should have seen this coming.

>>81015184
>Being too autistic to see obvious sarcasm

>>81015021
as if anyone in the industry cars about review score.

>>81015160
>Just go home and watch the first Christopher Reeve movie again after seeing it
Fixed

>>81015189
It's another Minions Shoah!

>>81014858
Re evaluate your life instead of waiting for a normiebait adaptation of comic book characters. Find a creative hobby or some shit.

>>81015180

But it's a stupid kids movie. A kids movie with a lot of tryhard angsty shit for 13-year olds and people saying bad words to appeal to 13-year olds. But it's still a kids movie. If it were R-rated, literally no one would go see it. They're trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator crowd. Most of those people are under 17.

>2016
>trusting movie critics
Just make up your own minds about the movie when you see it

>>81015167
Guarantee Doctor Strange get at least a 90% rating. With it being Feige's dream project, and having the best cast of any Marvel film, it's going to be huge. The great thing is, no one is expecting much of it which is why it'll be even bigger.

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>>81015221
This would please me, but we'll see.

>>81015221
I hope it bombs hard.
Cumberbatch can't even begin to act well.

>>81015167
Is it irony that Deadpool might not have been as great without some of the legacies of the past it could make fun of? Though I guess Reynolds is a strong enough comedian to probably find other ways to inject funny shit in anyways.
But, making fun of Wolverine and that shitty Deadpool, GL, studio jokes and such, could they have been left out and still been quite as hilarious overall? I guess maybe a rough percentage guess, perhaps 5% less funny without them.

>>81014847
its a lame attempt to play catch up and make a DC superhero team to compete with the MCU

its probably rushed and is all style no substance. whats the moral of the story? send dead kryptonians to a black hole?

>>81015217

But be sure when you see it, pay for a ticket to DEADPOOL and sneak into BvS. That way Warner doesn't get any of your money.

>>81015228
>wanting movies to fail

M-maybe the R-rated cut will save it

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>>81014847

The one thing to make this worse are all of Marvel pointing and laughing.

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>>81015217
you're a fucking IDIOT

I
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Reviews are meant to help consumers avoid a bad purchase, if reviews are saying something is bad, they're trying to prevent you from wasting your money

seeing a bunch of bad reviews and then watching the bad movie to see how it is makes you a fucking retard

>>81015252
If it has a body shot of nude Gadot than all of my NOPE.

>>81015228
>cumberbatch
>cant act
What do you gain from saying stupid shit?

>>81015267

that doesn't really work for subjective things like entertainment

>>81015083
>give snyder the boot
If he keeps cranking out more watchmen than he does suckerpunch then no

>>81015221
Very likely, in a way they kind of wanted it to be like Deadpool in that it's sort of off in its own universe as I recall, because it's the introduction of actual magic and crazy shit into the MCU.
Though I suppose each time the MCU tried to do something as a pseudo stand-alone project it's rewarded them handsomely, can't see how they could fuck that up.

Just give the rights back to Marvel already

>>81015204
>Comparing Zootopia to Minions
Like even from the most basic marketing perspectives that's wrong

>>81015267
>they're trying to prevent you from wasting your money

How poor are you that a 20 dollar ticket is something to worry about? If it sucks, then it sucks, but there's been too many cases of good movies getting bad reviews that you can't trust them.

>>81015280
You realize that Watchmen didn't make WB a cent and was panned by audiences and critics, right?

You are using Watchmen unironically as a Snyder home run.

>>81015238

>sneak in

Do you really need to sneak? It's not like anyone will stop you.

>>81014858
>no one told him to kill himself

I wonder if /co/ is part of 4chan sometimes...

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>>81015276
any entertainment can have objective flaws

christ, this board is filled with children

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>>81015256
What makes it worse are all the DC fans who once defended the film now turning against the it to save face.

"Haha! What a piece of shit! I-I knew it was going to fail! I'm one of you guys now! I'm... I'm so... glad my hopes and dreams are crushed... Hehe..."

>>81015294
I'm only saying that Man of Steel had to run close to a Minions film which was the DC friend excuse for it's rapid 2nd weekend dropoff.

I hope DCbros can enjoy the movie at least because... Damn.

I'm still reserving judgement. But A LOT of what I've heard about the movie has me majorly concerned. A certain thing about Batman makes it seem like Zack Snyder does not understand these characters at all.

batman kills people in the movie

>>81015307
Trying to be original

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>>81015299
people like you are the reason transformers movies make so much money

all you do by not listening to reviewers is rewarding shitty movies with money to make more shitty movies

>>81015308

if you talk about technical shit, then sure. but big budget films aren't really going to have those kinds of problems anyway.

>>81015306
now THIS is shitposting

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>>81015306
>37% isn't a bad score

It's objectively a bad score for anything.

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>>81015299

>>81015280
>If he can film a story that's already written, and storyboarded and does pretty much nothing but point the camera at action then yes

>>81015312

I'll still watch it. The reviews aren't all bad but this is definitely not good.

I just wanted there to be more good superhero movies and for Marvel to actually have some competition.

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>>81015329
>but big budget films aren't really going to have those kinds of problems anyway.

You must be new to WB/DC.

>>81015302

Or just walk in. Whatever you like.

>>81015312
I'm pretty sure a lot of faggots have been against Snyder from the very beginning. Even since Man of Steel.

Are the critics retarded? Snyder haters?
This movie is enjoyable as fuck.

>>81014858
You just answered your own question.

Wb should just stick to making DC cartoons

People swear by the "Disney is evil" meme. Hell maybe it's true, but in reality Disney just funds and oversees all of their product. None of the greed shows in the films. What shows is the passion of a smaller team with the budget of a large one, and that's why Disney basically has a fucking monopoly in the good movie biliousness.

I mean look at this shit and compare it to Deadpool. It's fucking sad.

>>81015328

If it's enjoyable to so many people (critics don't count as a representation of a real audience), then it isn't so shitty then, is it?

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>>81015306

>>81015361
disney didnt make deadpool, fox did

>>81014858
Should be fine, all reviewers seem to be ok with how it set up the JL stuff, they just hate the movie itself for being something of a terribly edited clusterfuck. The common theme I'm seeing is they can't wait for solo Bats, I'm concerned that because he fucking kills so many they can't do Under the Red Hood properly, unless they just ignore it or do some really retarded logic in his fight with him.

>>81015363
>critics don't count as a representation of a real audience

kek this is clearly bait, not wasting my time on you anymore

>>81015344

i really doubt the majority of big budget movies have glaring technical problems.

reviews always come down to whether or not the person writing it personally enjoyed the movie, which isn't helpful unless you personally know that person and their tastes.

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>>81015352
>I'm pretty sure a lot of faggots have been against Snyder from the very beginning
Nope, 300 was breddy good.
Because he made 300 into a movie.
Most of us wish he'd stop making the DC comic universe into a "Zack Snyder Joint" with horribly Goyer writing.

So did the trailer really contain the entire plot or is there stuff they haven't shown yet left?

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>>81015354

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>>81015374
>solo Bats

>>81015390
Maybe they could give Jason his spirit-sabers.

>>81014858
make your own movie

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>>81015401
>Beating up guys in costumes is sereeus bizness guyz

>>81015361
The whole Disney is evil thing has always been blown out proportion. You don't hear about them having sweatshops or destroying environments. Heck Disneyland and World were both never segregated and Land was around in the 50s.

The worst thing Disney does is use the power of marketing to make as much money as possible. And god forbid a business do that and be good at it.

>>81015306
>37% isn't a bad score it's average.
wew, nice damage control fag

>>81015415
>all superhero films need to treat their subject material the same way

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>he expected this to be good
>he was surprised when he saw the low review scores

Why? Snyder was a death sentence for this movie.

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>>81015434
>They don't need to be entertaining if they pretend to be DEEP.

>>81015306
I guess X-Men Origins was totally fine then

>>81015228
hey you can make all the memes about Benedick Cumbersnatch, but he's a decent actor.

Guyz, maybe making superhero movies in the first place was a bad idea.

>>81015434

I agree with this. I've been asking for that gritty Care Bears reboot for decades. Why won't these studios make all my childhood favorite things as adult and mature as I am?? At least WB gets it.

>>81015453
Hiring Goyer to write them has certainly been a tragic error.

>>81015221
Doctor Strange is going to be the greatest sci-fi movie of all time!

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>>81014847
Guess what? It's still going to pull in $700m at the box office just like MoS.

They're going to be rewarded for their negligence and keep pumping these out.

There's literally nothing (zilch, nada, 没有) you can do about it.

>>81015361
You're right about the smaller team thing but Deadpool is a Fox movie. A Fox movie that the higher-ups didn't care about and solely left in the hands of a small team with a small budget and it turned out to BTFO every X-movie in the process

>>81015453

I'm beginning to think the whole concept of superheroes is terrible. Alan Moore was right.

>>81015468
You think we DC fans are happy about constantly being served shit?

>>81015434
I too await the day for my dark and edgy Ducktales movie

>>81015465
>>81015450
I honestly think Dr Strange is going to be the best superhero film of the year.

>>81015468

They need to do a lot better than $700m to break even.

>>81015472
Does that mean Deadpool 2 is gonna suck?

Oh come off it.

>>81015459
>>81015485
>superhero

>>81015468
Oh, I have no doubt about that. In fact I'll go even higher. 1.3 Billion. But DC dorks were talking how it was gonna challenge Force Awakens when in reality it won;t een get close to Avengers or Furious 7 numbers.

Ok, answer me one thing. Why did WB hire Snyder after MoS?

Regardless of your opinion of the movie, it got very mixed reviews and the box office wasn't anything special (it's a Superman movie after all, it should be able to make more money than GotG). What sane company would hire this guy to helm their DC universe? From a business standpoint, it doesn't make any sense.

>>81015453
>Guyz, maybe letting Snyder make superhero movies in the first place was a bad idea.

Fixed

>>81015468
>It's still going to pull in $700m at the box office just like MoS.
MoS did 668m.

If a fucking Batman and Superman movie, the movie that every goddamn fan has been propping up as "Everybody knows these characters, of course it's going to blow away every other comic book film" comes out and it 'only' pulls in around that much, you've fucked up

>>81015482
Well it seems 90% of your fanbase enjoys being served shit, or doesn't enjoy it but eats it anyway.

>>81015015
37 is a number

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Good, i hope WB burns

Batman akrham knight was so broken on pc they had to pull the game
MKX still doesnt work and pc doesnt even get kombat pack 2
MoS was boring

>>81015505
It's even worse he's doing Justice League.

>>81015505
Nepotism, or he gives good head. Probably both. He casts with his dick too.

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Sweet sweet denial

People complaining about critics mentioning that the movie was "no fun" and comparing it to the Nolan trilogy really downplay how silly, sarcastic and enjoyable were the Nolan ones. They weren't completely joyless.

Batman Begins had a couple of dumb moments in it (for example Gordon in the Batmobile or when Batman headbutts a guy after screaming I'M BATMAN), and in general many characters were sarcastic and cracking jokes at times, they were human. Sure, they were more serious and realistic but it also was aware that a guy in a batsuit beating up a guy in clown makeup ain't exactly the grimmest thing ever.

Meanwhile, Snyder's Man of Steel was almost always at the verge of tears and it tried to make up with the action scenes which are of course Snyder's forte.

>>81015519
Oh not by Monday he won't.

>>81015024
It's not worse than the cycle of the MCU

>>81015496

Superheroes are for kids, no matter how much you try to edge them up.

It's also OK to admit you like things meant for kids. It won't make your penis shrink, I promise.

>>81015515
>Playing video games on PC
Leave your parents basement faggot.

>>81015492
>to break even
No way this movie has more than a $500m budget.

>>81015306
>37% isn't a bad score
KEK

>>81015505
It makes perfect sense, you don't have the perspective of an executive or shareholder of a company. They do not watch these films for quality, as long as it looks semi-competent (and say what you will about Zach Snyders directing he knows how to make a film look intriguing visually at the very least) and it makes money that's all that matters, film quality isn't important when it comes to the short term goal of making money. They're not really focused on accolades because they really aren't that great, remember when The Dark Knight was getting pushed all over and Heath Ledgers Joker was super popular that the film never saw one Oscar. It got plenty of other awards but was snubbed hard.

>>81015493
It means they'll probably throw more money at the Deadpool team and tell them to repeat their success. Which means that Fox may want to be more involved, but they may also feel that it's best to leave them to their own devices and hope they can strike lightning twice.

>>81015545

Marketing, bro.

Looks like that Lobo movie is getting less and less likely

>>81015531
Zozzle. fucking this x10

>>81015537
Superheroes have had teens and young adults as their primary audience for years now though.

>>81015482
I wouldn't if there weren't people to this day defending MoS

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>>81015515
i know i hate it

>>81015562
Hopefully we get that Sheriff Lobo movie instead

>>81015545
Studio gets roughly half of the box office.

http://www.boxofficeflops.com/articles/when-does-a-movie-break-even-at-the-box-office/

>>81015533
In case you haven't noticed, /co/ fucking hates AoU and the people defending it are a very small minority.

I am a MCUfag and I'll tell you AoU was a disappointing mess and there are many who feel the same. Unlike with MoS, people don't go over their way to defend it and proclaim it a missunderstood masterpiece.

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>>81015505

>>81015565
Teens are kids.

Kids = under 18.

Anime is also for kids.

>>81014962
Suicide squad's release date alone indicates it's being sent out to die

>>81015570
Maybe it's because everyone is different and has different opinions?

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Alright, more importantly, did they have a great end credits sequence, music, and such? Or is it more likely to be saved for the Justice League title proper?
Always fun:
https://youtu.be/0UyITQydrao

Worth revisiting this article, following the critical failure of Batman v Superman.

http://www.comicsbeat.com/behind-the-scenes-at-wb-tons-of-presssure-on-batman-v-superman/

Along with this.

http://www.comicsbeat.com/batman-v-superman-is-either-in-trouble-or-a-savior/

> My entire key to understanding the WB comes from a conversation I had a few years ago at San Diego when I was randomly seated next to a former WB writer who told me “The problem is, the studio just doesn’t like or get superheroes.” And indeed, if you look at the long, long history of misfires and aborted efforts at WB from Nicholas Cage Superman, to George Miller JLA to an earlier, abandoned, Baman V Superman, to the leaden Green Lantern, you’ll sense moviemakers badly out of their comfort zone and just taking a shot in the dark and then regretting it.

>We will never get properly constructed DC cinematic universe and it will be just Disney and FOX competing for an eternity and ocassionaly borrowing each other's rights for characters.
I'm surprisingly okay with this.
They weren't even considering a TT or Sandman movie, so nothing of value was lost.

>>81015545
The way it works is you take the budget and multiply it by 2.5 or 3 times and that is the amount needed to get a profit. The gross is just that, revenue. It doesn't account for the theatres cut or the people who make the reels or digital things or the other marketing costs. Now for a movie like B v S, they probably already made the budget back through licensing and merchandise but most movies don;t have that so the 2.3 to 3 rule usually works

>>81015580
he kills in the movie

>>81015587
And that's exactly why it's going to succeed

SS will come out at a point where it feels like it will die, do much better than expected, get better reviews than BvS and WB will be left wondering what the shit

>>81015515
>playing PC games
hahahhaha omg what year is it?

>>81015488
My joke aside, my only hope for the movie is they stop with downplaying the fantasy elements of Marvel. Thor already dropped the ball when it came to portraying the Asgardians as a mix of sci-fi and fantasy stuff like in comics. I'd eat my hat if Ragnarok addresses that.

>>81015505
for the same reason Goyer is still lead writer on these things. Someone at WB is fucking retarded.

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>>81015604
>Meanwhile at the offices of Sony

>>81015583

I though visually it was exquisite, and the fantasy sequences were good.

But the overall plot was too depressing and bleak.

>>81015221
>yfw it gets a 62%
>Feige gets pissed and starts doing everything wrong.

>>81015554
That's the thing, MoS box office wasn't anything special.

Captain America 2 and fucking Guardians of the Galaxy made more money than a Superman movie. 668 million when we're talking about one of the biggest superhero icons is a mediocre performance.

>>81015601
>George Miller JLA
This would have been good, I think; the provisional script was really solid.

Instead it looks like we're getting the Daikatana of cape films

>>81015633
Literally won't happen.

>>81015613
I doubt it'll be particularly good, think several people said even before Deadpool, it needed an R rating so they could go wild, but instead we get Harley with 'voices in my head are so random :^)'

>>81014847
Snyder should just do a Duke Nukem movie, it's more his style.

..has anyone on /co/ actually seen the film? Or are we just going to blindly follow what the critics have said?

Won't it have a good opening weekend regardless due to ticket preorders?

>worlds greatest detective
>can't do any research into Superman not being evil

>>81015633
I'd honestly be shocked if it gets less than a 92%

>>81015645
>>81015657
fpsmind

>>81015592

That IS true. Many folks will undeniably not only take whatever is shat into their mouths without question, they'll defend mediocrity as ferociously as if it was their own cub.

HL Mencken, o one's ever gone broke, and all that.

>>81015660
>has anyone even eaten the steak? or are we just going to blindly believe that 30+ people say it tastes like shit and that it's a waste of money

>>81015586
You know when people talk about children they mean kids around 6-12, right?

>>81015663
It was always going to be financially ok just from sheer name recognition.
That's not exactly a thing to be proud of.

>>81015626
He sucks some mean sick.

>>81015150
Daredevil does it god damn well. Nolan trilogy is one long stinker. I'll never understand its appeal.

>>81015660
Give me 5 movies that preform against critic opinions. Be it low scoring > good movie or high scoring > shit movie

>>81015684
>implying dark knight wasnt great

hipster detected

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>>81015660
Of fucking course 90% of people here haven't seen it yet. This website is full of sheep who have to make a thread to ask if their opinion is acceptable for god's sake.

>>81015633
I will eat my shit if it gets lower than an 80%

>>81015663
I don't care how much money it makes DC, I wanted to see a good movie.

>>81015684
Daredevil is a masterpiece.

The show I mean.

>>81015663
Look if you start looking at how much money a movie made over the movie itself or it's critical reception, you're basically no better than the Transformers films

>>81015694
No it's just one neat take of a villain can't make up for everything else.

>>81015666
But Satan if they didn't fight than the movie wouldn't be over two hours long.

>>81015519

And Whedon was going to do Avengers 3.

And Goyer was the original writer for BvS.

I won't be surprised if they drop Snyder after this. They'll probably wait until the other movies come out to get someone else to direct.

>>81015299
>20 dollar ticket

Where the fuck do you live that you have to pay 20 bucks for a movie ticket? That's expensive as fuck.

Around me, they range anywhere from 4usd to 12usd, for IMAX and such.

So while it's clear the film is shit, we still don't know what KIND of shit it is.

Is it a clean shit or a wet shit? Or a second wave shit when you think you're done and you realize there's still more? Or is it a lincoln log shit, the kind that's too big that you have to break it up into smaller pieces before you can flush it? Or a "Gee, I really wish I could shit." shit, the kind where you feel like you really have to go but no matter how much you strain you just can't get the shit out. Maybe it's a groaner, the kind that can't come out without some vocal assistance. Or a floater, the kind that tends to resurface despite repeated flushings? Perhaps it's a spinal tap shit, the kind that hurts so bad that you'd swear it was coming out sideways. Or maybe it's a "Gee I think I'm turning into a bunny" shit, when you drop lots of cute, little round ones that look like marbles and make tiny splashing sounds when they hit the water.

This is a very important question and merits some serious deliberation.

>>81015684
Daredevil has 13 hours to flesh everything out, not 1.3 hours.

>>81015660
Nobody's bloody seen it, all we've got currently is these reviews, hence we're talking about them because this is an anticipated film

Disclaimer: I probably won't even watch the film and don't care much for it

>>81015677

Well, when I'm talking about kids, I'm talking about people who are not adults. As in, still kids.

>>81015714
>The lost cause of DC, a study in cape cinema and revisionism

>>81015677
30 is the new 20.

>>81015725
Dude, you have to support your theatres, they make squat off tickets. You NEED to buy some drinks, popcorn, nachos etc.

If you don't you are equally as bad as those people who download cam rips.

The question has to be asked in the wake of the reviews: why Wonder Woman, why Doomsday, why 155goddamnminutes long?

I think the problem is WB took the wrong lesson from then-Marvel, they thought we loved tie in and in universe winks. That's not what made those movies successful. It's like they think we're too dumb to notice their corporate bullshit advertisements for what they are.

>>81015725
In Australia that's the usual price for a movie ticket.

Our currency sucks.

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>>81015714

>>81015751
As I said in another thread, the problem here is that they wanted to go all in and they wanted to go all in THIS MINUTE

Instead of taking time, building it up piece by piece and gaining hype earned by multiple separate movies climaxing into Justice League, they said "We need the heavy hitters on screen RIGHT NOW. Also Doomsday because RIGHT NOW"

>>81015024
Not me. This thing had a Gods of Egypt level death stench on it ever since their first promo used a line from fucking Dark Knight Returns to promote a movie about Batman and Superman meeting.

>>81015725
The superbig multitheaters are always more expensive.

>>81015687
Deadpool, Avengers, Star Wars 7, Avengers 2, Iron Man 3

>>81015761
The emu wars don't pay for themselves.

>>81015714
There's some chance someone might actually say it, there was basically a huge sigh of relief with Deadpool where everyone was saying, 'this is a great distraction from the superhero movie fatigue', then suddenly this.

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> Zack "The Hack" Snyder

>>81015785
>Deadpool
Stopped reading there.

>>81015672
>Daikatana

It's less about the FPS comparison and more the incredibly cocky marketing push and hype build up towards a mediocre release.

I would have gone with a Duke Nukem Forever comparison but that didn't seem accurate.

>>81015785
>Deadpool
>Star Wars 7
Oh so you're just an autist

Is the movie really as bad as the reviews suggest? I have tickets for tomorrow night.

>>81014881
fun is subjective in value. In this context, it's a codeword that means jokes and smiling to critics.

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>>81014847
How things change in so little time compared to yesterday's blind optimism.

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>>81015801

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>>81015307
I know right ? That's why I like this board, anons are pretty nice here. I love you guys.

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>>81015573
Maybe Lobo could be a sheriff in the movie?

>>81015801
>>81015805
He's right

Star Wars 7 was good however

>>81015379
>i really doubt the majority of big budget movies have glaring technical problems.

Either you haven't seen many movies, overall. Or you have no concept of the technical side of film.

Because tons of big budget movies have glaringly bad technical issues.

https://vimeo.com/28792404

>>81015799
batman of fucking murder

>>81015714
It's scary that some people unironically believe this.

>>81015812
Sell them, it's fucking bad.

I got to see it early, over 2 and a half hours of snooze, and 5 mins of "ok pretty cool"

>>81015843
Eh, Avengers 1 was pretty medicore at best once the crossover hype wears off on you. First time you watch it sure but probably not after that.

>>81015838
Didn't see that part of his post, I literally stopped reading there.

>>81014847
I have to admit, Wonder Woman is the least of the problem in BvS, she is turned out to be alright, given her presence is basically glorified cameo.
Yet, storywise, pacing, editing. It seems jumbled, all over the pace.

I couldn't give a shit about capeshit, but I'm certainly enjoying this.

Dc fans had this coming,consider this punishment for busting our balls for years

>>81015660
I'm seeing it tonight because I'm dating a theater manager. Although, I probably won't bother making a thread about it or anything because shitposting makes any real discussion nigh impossible

I'm seeing this movie no matter what and I'm going to force myself to like it.

Zach Snyder could take a big shit into a box and label it "DC movie" and I'd still like it.

Did I mention I'm a eunuch?

>>81015812
The RT thing? I doubt it's quite that bad, though dunno myself, judging from youtube reviewers, it's just good, not great, the editting is either shitty or sloppy, but Bats is fantastic, Supes is pretty good, WW has apparently 16 lines and is ok I guess, fighting and action was good, too much shit was thrown in needlessly apparently. I assume they don't even mean Justice League stuff or they might have just been like, 'ok that's nice'. Every reviewer was saying, this crap should have simply been taken out, though so far I think the reviews are spoiler free so don't know what it is they're talking about.

>>81015847
saved

BAT

OF

MURDER

>>81015880
>I'm seeing this movie no matter what and I'm going to force myself to like it.
You're the exact reason we'll never get a good DC movie.

>>81015893
batman is a fucking killer

>>81015493
>Does that mean Deadpool 2 is gonna suck?
>>81015556
>It means they'll probably throw more money at the Deadpool team and tell them to repeat their success.
The Deadpool crew already declared that they want to keep the sequel small, deliberately keeping the budget limited to keep the executives off their backs.

>tfw MCUfag
>tfw wanted this movie to be great so that we can have a healthy competition in the cape market
I'm sorry DCbros, you deserve better. Maybe they'll fire Snyder after this.

>>81015906
Did you not read the rest of that post?

>>81015873
Why were we busting your balls? Are you talking about the Batman movies by Burton and such?

>>81015903
THIS FUCKING THIS

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>>81015903
Is this even Injustice level of murder since both Supes and Bats are doing it?
Is dead Robin going to be Dick?

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>>81015648
Hi there, /kurwa/ !

>>81015637
>we're talking about one of the biggest superhero icons
That's funny, because I never met a Superman fan outside of /co/.
He's iconic, but general audience doesn't like him and that's why his movies flop.

>>81015906
All DC movies are good though.

>>81015054
It would make Gorillion dollars.

It won't ever happen in our lifetime.

>>81015892
So it's basically AoU. A mess with some good moments in it.

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Someone please make an edit of this with Snyder and Affleck.

>>81015696

Yeah, this. 4chan is fucking surreal sometimes.

And by surreal, I mean pretty much exactly as expected.

>>81015903

>INB4 "BUT HE KILLED PEOPLE IN THE OTHER MOVIES"

Yes, but he didn't just MOW people down en mass.

How are you people not up in arms like you were for Superman wrecking a city?

>>81015915
yeah scene he has everyone kill people

It's all Goyer's fault. He wrote the script. If anyone is to blame it's him.

>>81015918
Absolutely not.

>>81015922
he uses a fucking gun

>>81015947
Face it Zack, you fucked up. For the hundreth time.

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>>81015952

>this movie will make 2 billion dollars in the box office alone
FUCKING

SHOOT

ME

>>81015947
Nice deflection Zack

How touching is the scene of Ghost Dad telling Clark that being a hero results in all of your neighbors' horses drowning?

>>81015941
Oh I'm sure when the movie actually comes out, you'll see it

>>81015958
he makes everyone a killer

>>81015947

I don't know. Goyer has written good movies before. Snyder has never made a good film.

The real answer is the blame lies on the clueless management at Warner for putting these chucklefucks in charge of their billion-dollar movie franchise.

>>81014858
JUST DO IT
>>81015049
It cost 250 million to make though.

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>>81015961

>>81014847
So, I guess the Cyborg movie ain't happening anytime soon, or most of the other projects they prematurely announced

>>81015941
Lmao

>What is Batman Returns.

>>81015803

>mediocre
>Daikatana

Buddy, there was NOTHING mediocre about the release of Daikatana other than 'it was released'. I guess you could say that was mediocre, in that the average game that gets finished and has production backing gets released.

>>81015958
It's both of them. Goyer being a mainstream writer is one of the biggest mysteries of Hollywood to me. He must suck like a hoover, cause the guys a hack

>>81015962
No, it really wont.

1 billion sure, but it will never surpass Avengers. I'm curious how China will react to it.

>>81015926
>Green Lantern
>Superman Returns
>Batman & Robin
>Catwoman

>>81015542
Look at this peasant, what can't handle more than 27 fps?

>>81015962
Bruh, it'll be lucky if bad word of mouth doesn't keep from cracking a billion

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its back at 39

>>81015953
I see you Marvel guys being more aggressive with your HAHAFUCKDCAMIRITETODARKFORMEBROWHERESMUHQUIPS more often than not as compared to us DC guys. Not that my DC bias is coming into play, but this si what I've seen from all the company wars threads I've been in for a good laugh.
You've been busting our balls for the longest fucking time with the Man of Murder, Hack Snyder, lolololwillDCmovieseverGITGUD stuff.

>>81015990
Don't forget Jonah Hex.

>>81015980
Reviews don't matter if the movie is a financial sucess. But they don't help either in this case, and the WB predictions are quite high concerning the budget

>>81015990

Those are perfectly enjoyable popcorn flicks if you take off your marvel blinds.

>>81016003
good fucking killers

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>>81016007
the only reason quip is even a buzzword is cuz of you guys

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>A movie with two mary sues fighting one another, one being indestructible, and the other having all the plot armor in the world, turns out to be a shitfest
Wow, what a fucking shocker.

>>81016021

NO.


kinda.

>>81015971
Come on. You can't honestly say that Snyder doesn't have at the very least, a strong, visually interesting directorial style though.

>>81016026
I don't think you know what a Mary Sue is.

>>81016034

He does. He also makes very, very bad movies. Maybe he could be an action and stunt director working for a real director one day and we can enjoy his action in a good movie.

>>81016034
Not that guy, but that depends on your definition of "interesting", I suppose.

>>81016017

>Catwoman
>perfectly enjoyable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNlmRId2FVQ

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>>81015941
>How are you people not up in arms like you were for Superman wrecking a city?
Because the movie isn't out yet. Once it does, expect BATMAN OF MURDER or CAPED MURDERER to become a meme

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>check out review

>make it to "Batman mows bad guys down with the machine guns on his vehicle"

>>81016017
If you turn off your brain about anything can be enjoyable, that's not an argument.

If you had a chance to make the BvS movie, what would you put in it to make it better?

What would you change? What would you keep?

I'd put in Krypto somewhere.

>>81016074
Seriously, you can be at the doctors office waiting room for half an hour and find enjoyment in a paper clip if you turn off your brain.

>>81016058
>implying that scene isn't a 10/10 masterpiece

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>>81016065

>>81016031
>The Lost Boys
>Falling Down
>Tigerland

Schumacher has a way better track record than Snyder.

>>81016074

>If you put the DC Logo on it, anything can be enjoyable.

Fixed that for you.

>>81016012
>Reviews don't matter if the movie is a financial sucess.
The issue here, is that bad reviews could possibly be due to the movie being of bad quality. No, the review doesn't mean it wouldn't make money, but bad reviews make it LESS likely that it would make money.

And this is meant to be the lynch-pin that lead to multiple new films. It needs to do better than "okay", to do its job of booting up a connect DC film universe.

>>81015233
I barely noticed the references. There was the action figure and him saying he didn't want a green CGI costume this time, and maybe a few more. They could have been easily replaced with more gay jokes

>>81016092

I'll admit, I've never understood the appeal of Miller's Batman.

>>81016094

Schumacher is a filmmaker. Snyder is a meathead with a camera.

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>>81016065
a killer getting mad at a killer

>>81015903
WHY THE FUCK AREN'T MORE FLIPPING OUT OVER THIS?!
forget cringe luthor, scrawny wonder woman snd grimdark superman they fucking ruined badman as well.

How can any DC FAN SUPPORT THIS SHITFEST

>>81016123

Some are. Wait until more people see the movie.

Most of the negativity is coming from critics. The fanboys will get their chance.

>>81015233
>Is it irony that Deadpool might not have been as great without some of the legacies of the past it could make fun of?
Reynolds actually agree with you. I believe he did say that Deadpool benefited from the superhero film genre being so developed, and that if it was made back when it was first proposed years ago, that it would not be as well received.

>>81015306
>All the other kids got 37% mom! It was just a hard test
On what earth is 37% average? Maybe on the Syfy channel

>>81016106
I guess that could have worked, my theater was dying especially hard on the references but overall they had fun with each joke anyways, especially trying to fight Colossus.

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>>81016123
im fucking mad

>>81016092

The funny thing about rubber bullets is how much people underestimate them. They've actually caused plenty of deaths and major injuries.

>>81016138
Earth 29, duh

Man of Steel was a film made by people who hate Superman for people who hate Superman.

It's starting to sound like this was a film by people who mostly like Batman, but think his whole "one rule" thing is for pussies. And who also still really hate Superman.

>>>/vp/25681722
>even /vp/ is jumping on the hate ban wagon

>>81015847
What the hell is this "kino" shit?

>>81016177
That's honestly what it feels like.

>>81015694
>hipsters now apparently hate the Dark Knight
Have we gone full circle?

>>81016200
It means the same thing as klocki.

>>81016177
Snyder is a dumb meathead so this is probably exactly what happened.

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>>81016200
Welcome, newfriend

>You still don't get it do you?

>After all this time, you're still dumbfounded and lost. This isn't "capeshit". That's a two syllable word used for any piece of superhero cinema to patrician for plebian minds. This is cinema. This is a pop-culture phenomenon.

>This is capekino.

>On March 25th we'll all wake up. We'll wake up to the fact that Hollywood still has it in them. That they can still craft a piece of intelligent big budget entertainment. Zack Snyder has painted a beautiful portrait of ideals and visuals. Batman v. Superman is the film we never knew we needed. It is because we have labeled Disney's formula-ridden schlock as the norm. We've become comfortable with it. We don't want to be challenged. That mindset breeds mediocrity. You see, Warner Brothers is in the mindset of shaking things up; of showing us what the superhero genre is really capable of. These films don't have to be simple beat 'em ups and quips. They can be Greek mythologies. Gods fighting. Ideals clashing. Morals being challenged; the biggest gladiator match in the history of the world.

People believed this.

>>81016220
That's not a good example.
Age of Quiptron doesn't even deserve a 50%

>>81015450
>but he's a decent actor.

Yeah, his Kahn role was Oscar worthy, amirite?