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What do you want to see in season 3?

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What do you want to see in season 3?
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Season 3 will be Wilson Fisk getting his power back and using Bullseye which kills off Karen Page.

The other 12 issues are filler.
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>>80970607
>mfw when that's probably exactly what it's going to be
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>>80970564

Wilson Fisk regaining power as Punisher has eliminated all of his competition and Daredevil is fighting The Hand in Japan. Ikari should make an appearance.

Karen and Matt get married and subsequently the introduction of Bullseye.

Essentially Born Again, Vol. 2, then shadowland.
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Stiltman's Rise to power
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Less sjw shit and karen having a rape baby of frank.
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karen die
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>>80970952
>Less sjw shit
Such as?
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Hopefully they won't reuse the basic plot of the first two seasons
>Matt can't balance his superhero life and his civilian life
>alienates his friends
>everybody makes up and is buddies again in the final episode
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>>80970607
Yeah basically this. You know for Bullseye's costume Id go with the classic pic related only instead his entire face is covered and the target decal is dead center. I guess you could have Matt or somebody carve the target in his head if your really wanted to.
>I missed..............I NEVER MISS!
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>>80970952
>Less sjw shit

What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>80971081
Im guessing hes still salty about Jessica Jones or something
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>>80971111
People didn't like JJ?
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Frank franking Matty's boipussy
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I liked the subtle alterations to the costume. It' still not quite right, but at least his head and face don't look as smushed up as they did in the original helmet.
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return of Kingpin
Bullseye obviously
but also like stilt-man, a new Owl (didn't the old man have a son?), etc. maybe make it so the villains are having a competition to see who can kill daredevil first. So rather than focusing on regular crime, they're all focusing on targeting DD
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Fully-realized Kingpin
Bullseye
Owl
More Turk
Maybe Melvin as Gladiator

Save Born Again and Elektra's return for season 4.
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>>80970564
More Frank. I want him and DD double teaming bad guys, shit was so cash in s2.
I want Bullseye killing Karen, hopefully early on in the season because I'm so fucking tired of her character and I want him to show up quickly.
I want Kingpin out and about and being really active in trying to destroy DD.
More Claire, she's wonderful.

I also would enjoy seeing more than just 1-2 scenes of Matt actually being a lawyer and doing lawyer stuff.
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>>80971068
I wouldn't say he made up with Foggy in the final episode. Nelson and Murdock is still done as far as we can tell. Besides, Matt repeatedly ruining his entire life is kinda his whole character.
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It's going to be fucking terrifying when Fisk finds out Matt is Daredevil.
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>>80970564
/I want that negro cop to have to say ambulance in every scene he is in
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>>80970564

Either tell us what the Hole in Ground is about or stop chasing that plot-point.
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>>80970607
Only three or four episodes in Season 2 really felt like filler. Besides it's not that bad.
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>>80970564
Better acting.
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>>80972714
>"ambulants"

Is that how all black people say it?
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>>80970564
Batman
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>>80973202
Daredevil IS Batman. Just blind and a lawyer
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Turk becomes the Kingpin and big bad of the season
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>>80971220

People liked JJ?

Outside of Kilgrave the thing was an inconsistent trainwreck with a wholly unlikable protagonist and numerous plotholes.
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>>80973284
Turk is a punk and will always be a punk. He ain't no Kingpin
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>>80973254

And shit
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>>80970564
Moon Knight or Spider-Man.
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>>80970607
I think Jessica Jones had more "filler" than Daredevil. Everything feels more planned out on Daredevil.
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>>80970607
Nigga you dumb.

Season 3 will be Fisk getting power back with Bullseye introduced.

Season 4 will be Born Again.
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>>80973310
It was ok

Not really up to DD but it was watchable for the most part
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>>80970564
First half would be finishing up the Elektra and Hand shit, second half would deal with Fisk getting out of prison and hiring Bullseye to kill Karen after he finds out Matt is Daredevil.
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>>80971731
>tfw that cocktease S1 when you thought Claire was the love interest
>tfw you still thought you were safe when Foggy was taking the bullet in late S1
>tfw you finally have to accept Karen is the love interest and how much focus they give her in S2
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you could have born again as the 3rd act of season 3

you have 13 hours to work with. you could easily have kingpin get out in the first 3rd and reclaim his throne. then he makes matt completely miserable and broken in the climax. then matt rebuilds

> POST YOUR FACE WHEN THERE IS NO CORPSE
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>>80970564
Frank franking some franks
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>>80973439
Born Again is too big to cover in just a handful of episodes. It needs to be its own season.
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>>80973439
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i want to see Matt get outed as DD and spend the season bumbling around in court to be like "How can i be DareDevil, i'm a blind!"
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I'm kinda mad that Nobu stole Bullseye's thunder by killing Elektra with her own sai. But if they bring is Bullseye hired by Kingpin to make Matt's life a living hell and killing Karen, I won't mind so much. I imagine the Hand is going to resurrect Elektra too.
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>>80973284
Turk pls go
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>>80973836
Bullseye should kill Foggy. I think too many people would expect Karen.
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>>80973402
>they kept teasing Matt and Karen falling in love
>they even become a couple
>Matt keeps telling Elektra to fuck off
>when she's recovering from the poison blade in his house he confesses that he still loves her

I don't know why, but that shit got to me. Matt and Karen still have 0 chemistry after 2 seasons, but Matt/Elektra was fire from their first scene. Fuck Karen, bitch is annoying.
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>>80973901

Honestly Matt was retardedly inconsistent the whole series.

There's a part where he literally says he'll accept her for whoever she is and just doesn't want to lose her, she then kills a Hand assassin, he tells her to get out, then they're fighting side by side later and she's killing indiscriminately and he says he loves her again.

It's like he's completely normal 90% of the time then he sees Elektra and immediately wants to run away with her.
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>>80973726
yeah, Bendis's daredevil run was pretty great
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>>80970564
Certainly not ninjas.

S2 dropped the ball hard. The villains weren't menacing or entertaining. It was pure shit. Nobuo is not final boss material. Hell, he was almost a fucking henchman in s1.

The military guy as the blacksmith was also a shit reveal. They literally had to make someone, anyone already presented, into the blacksmith character. Almost chosen randomly.

Elektra was also a terrible character.
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>>80973879

Come on DD

please don't make me go
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>>80973898
>kill Foggy
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Karen and Frank make the greatest couple in all of capeshit.
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>>80974002
Because he knows that Daredevil is who he is and Elektra is the only who understands that. By the end of the show he basically accepts that he can't force people(Frank, Elektra) to be someone they're not.
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Open with the conversation between Matt and Karen.

Everything with her dying and being a heroin addict is boring and predictable. Do something new.

Bullseye.
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>>80973901
I felt the exact opposite. Didn't buy Matt and Elektra at all, but him and Karen always felt pretty natural.
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Just cancel everything and give us three seasons of Frank.
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>>80970564
Finds out who the fuck killed the DA?
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>>80974767
It was General Eiling. He was trying to frame Brad.
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>>80974124
Aquaman and Mera, lad
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>>80974077
blacksmith was a bit of an asspull. I didn't like the ninjas either but I don't think they were bad.

Honestly it felt like there was too much shit going on at once, but they did it pretty well all things considered
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>>80975013

Now who's ready for Defenders, which will be probably be Shadowland with Elektra leading the Hand instead of Matt?
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>>80975067
So wait, do people think they're actually going with The Beast for The Hand? Because I hope they're going with The Beast.
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>>80973726
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>>80974002
I think, in the end, Matt realized that ninjas aren't actually people, so it's okay to kill them.
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>>80975321
No, he realized that his way wasn't working like he told Frank.
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>>80970564
I want Vanessa back and craving that sweet revenge. Then she gets Frank'd through a window
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They dug the hole too deep, now Daredevil and The Hand must team up to face...The Moleman!
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Charlie Cox's bare ass.
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Some things that would make me cream like a creamy creamboy:

Bullseye hired to take out Frank, whom Fisk sees as a more immediate obstacle. Karen goes Karening as always and gets caught in the middle of it. Frank has Bullseye on the ropes when Bullseye kills Karen just so he can make his escape while Frank is in shock.

Fisk spends the first part of the season rebuilding his empire while also searching for hard evidence that Matt is Daredevil.

Lots of MattXFrank.

Matt becomes Foggy's client rather than his partner, which would make sense following JJ, while also setting up their involvement with Heroes for Hire/Defenders. Or Matt is of counsel with Hogarth, or something else less than a full-time associate/partner.

After Bullseye kills Karen, Matt goes apeshit but gets fucking wrecked by Fisk (after taking out Bullseye). Before Fisk can finish off Matt, Frank shows up with Vanessa hostage and while Fisk is in the middle of autisting super hard, confessing his love while threatening Frank, Frank just plugs Vanessa in the head.
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>>80975765
>it's a DD is bleeding out on the couch episode
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>>80974002
She hurt him once and he was a bit on the defensive side about her but the more he got to know her the more he realized she was the one he wanted to be with, especially when he nearly lost her the first time, IIRC he even tells her he felt a void inside of him when he thought of Elektra dying.

Her killing the Hand ninja turned him off from her because life was precious to him, the ninja was a young mam, and he thought Elektra was just some kill happy psycho.

But then after learning about her being the black sky, people thinking of her as an it and as a property, the fact that Elektra is so messed up thanks to these people, that she needed someone to love her, that she did it to protect him, that she was the only one who understood Matt's Daredevil side (and the part of him which was the lawyer part that she didn’t understand she accepted in the end), and then after finding out the Hand were a bunch of dicks who come back to life anyway, yeah of course he wanted to be with her.

Karen he liked and cared about but she's never going to be part of his Daredevil life and he was very willing to drop her for Elektra and didn't pursue Karen anymore when she dropped him.

Also the actors had some chemistry but the characters' relationship was never that developed and them hooking up felt weird especially since Matt was the person Karen knew the least, hell she had more of a relationship with Foggy and Frank (who most of tumblr is shipping with Karen, lol).

Claire, IMO, is another character who I think is perfect for Matt but too bad he's not the best person for her not to mention she doesn’t want to deal with his drama and bullshit (as a matter in fact Matt, along with the other superheroes, is the one who is always giving her trouble).
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>>80976025
Hnnng.

Fisk knows Melvin has been helping daredevil and has Betsy killed, making Melvin go full gladiator and act as a wildcard, buzzsawing his way through fisks goons whilst hunting daredevil for failing to protect Betsy
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When do you guys think we can even expect season 3? Aren't they only doing 2 shows a year?
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>>80970923
maybe
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Just what most people seem to want. Daredevil and Punisher fight Fisk and stopping him from coming back to power. But I want them to fail and for everything to go to shit
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>>80970923
Why not, stilt-man can't drag the show down any further after this shit season
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>>80976184
This I want a season 3 and 4 about DD and Frank vs the Fisk empire, feat bullseye, feat gladiator
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>>80970564
Bullseye
Absorbing Man
More Kingpin
More Frank
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>>80973310
I quite enjoyed it. DD season 1 was better but JJ was wayyyy better than season 2 of DD. I liked how different the tone was, Matt is so confident and sure of his actions and skills while Jessica is like a regular person fumbling her way through shit and constantly getting her ass kicked
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>>80976118
They're teasing that Gladiator reveal so hard it's unfair. That would be really cool, I just don't want him to get corrupted. He's my sometimes-confused husbando!
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>>80976128

>mfw we have to sit through another season of Jessica Jones before we get more Daredevil

She has one story and they barely stretched that out. I have no hope for season 2
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>>80976268
Maybe Danny will get dragged in and we can watch him become bffs with Luke.
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>>80976241
Its funny i rank the seasons in reverse.

DD2 > JJ > DD1
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>>80976328
I'd rank it

DD1 > DD2 > JJ
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>>80976372
DD1 = DD2 >>>>>>>>> lolhaven'tseenJJanddontplanto
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>>80976201
Well, at least we made it through the weekend before shitposters started calling season 2 shit.
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>>80976397
Why wouldn't you watch it? That's just retarded, make your own decisions. Just because /co/ shit talks something doesn't mean it's actually bad.
/co/ hates everything
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>>80976268
have they even confirmed JJs2? I thought the plan was DDs2, Luke, Iron Fist this year. Next year Defenders and 'maybe' DDs3
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>>80976444
Doesn't seem very appealing to me.
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>>80976482
Season 2 has been confirmed for JJ. All we know is that it will definitely be post-Defenders.
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>>80976415
Season 2 was shit. There was so little plot progression, ninja's popped up every 5 fucking minutes and Matt would be fighting them forever because he has to throw in unnecessary cartwheels and flips. Frank spent most of the season doing nothing but grunting, shooting people or talking about how he was a great American soldier. Foggy was a whiny bitch that became a Mary Sue after he got offered a named partner position at a prestigious law firm for no fucking reason. Karen at least did something interesting, which was reminiscent of season 1, but other wise this season was little plot with too much action to eat up time. It was boring
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>>80976397
>>80976490

Worth it for Tennant as Kilgrave. Arguably better than Kingpin.
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>>80976561
I'm one of the few who couldn't stand season 1 Kingautist. Season 2 Kingpin was GOAT though.
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I still don't get why there was a giant hole
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>>80976529
Punisher never talked up his own military achievements. He did much more than grunt. All of the dialogue between Matt and Frank was pitch-perfect.

Foggy was a Mary Sue after he got offered his job? So the season finale where he was barely present? And the named partner thing likely just meant he would be partner-track/given some years of credit toward partnership. Also, that trial was fixed by Fisk and things never went Foggy's way. Learn what a Mary Sue is.
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>>80976616
There is absolutely no reason for Foggy to have gotten that offer. A name fucking partner? Are you fucking kidding me, you don't higher some random dude to join your firm with the intention of having him eventually become named partner because he gave some narutard level inspirational speech at the start of a trial that got fucked up.
Or how about how he magically made everything work despite only having a few days to prep for the trial of the century on his own. This shit was just to play up how "special" Foggy is and how he needed to realize that he's a star all on his very own
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>>80976735
>higher
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>>80976735
I really want to know how he managed to talk the DA down from multiple executions to 20 days of community service or whatever ridiculous deal he made when killing Frank was literally all she wanted.
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>>80976798
420blazeitpussy
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>>80976803
He didn't convince her at all. Watch the show. They were trying to tie him to crimes in DE where the death penalty is an option (unlike NY). She was grasping at straws and there wasn't enough evidence to indict him in DE of anything. He was still going to serve multiple life sentences. Foggy was simply trying to use the insanity defense to get him institutionalized instead
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So why exactly was Elektra killed by not-Bullseye?
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>>80976803
Especially considering how blood thirsty that DA was and how easy a win this would be for her. But it's Foggy, he can do anything if he tries
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>>80976849
He worked out a possibility for parole in like 20 years or something retarded. How is that even possible? He's a mass murderer, there's no way a DA would ever agree to that
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>Jessica Jones is "sjw shit"

how is "rape is bad" a sjw thing?
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>>80976907
SJW has lost it's meaning, ppl use it to describe everything these days
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>>80976907
Not that I agree with people bandying about anti-sjambok bullshit, but there are other aspects of the show. Personally, I'm a fan of these details and I'm afraid to even point any of them out, lest these mouthbreathers use it as fodder.

For example, Kilgrave made his victims do fucked up shit. But, if you recall, the well dressed, wealthy, white dude merely has to hand over his coat. Kilgrave implicitly respected his status in society and his taste. That white dude felt equally victimized, which is valid in an autonomy kind of way, but didn't stack up against the other members of the support group.

Again, I actually like this subtle commentary.
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>>80976988
anti-sjw*

My autocorrect is tripping its dick off apparently
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>>80976529
>Frank talking about being a soldier

Did you even watch the show
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>>80976803
>20 days of community now equals multiple life sentences

Did half of you guys even pay attention to the show? Where you too busy on /co/ while watching?
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>>80976858
Because the Hand's master plan is involved in The Defenders miniseries, most likely, and they need Elektra to be resurrected by the Hand in that.
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>>80977100
Yo check this shit out
In episode 6 Foggy very clearly says that he managed to talk the DA down from 3 life sentences without parole to 1 with possibility of parole in 25 years.
Why the hell would she agree to that?
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>>80977265
Because she would just make sure he gets killed well before 25 years pass?
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BULLSEYE

WHEN
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>>80977295
The case is pretty open and shut, theres no reason for her to hope the lawn can kill the lawnmower in 25 years when she can just throw him in jail forever.
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>>80970607
First reply nailed it.
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>>80976988

Actually never thought about it this way. I just saw it as a lol fuck whitey type of thing which doesn't get under my skin anyway but interesting to see it a different way
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I want Kingpin in power and I want Matt to be outed at Daredevil. I think what would mAke for some really interesting things.

Also, does anyone have a picture for the timeline of the marvel netflix shows?
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>>80971081
A girl did something useful at one point in the show. This is unacceptable SJW behavior.
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Season 3 only needs Bullseye desu
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I want them to introduce Bullseye, have him kill Karen and have the season end on an adaptation of Roulette.
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I didn't quite understand the scene where punisher kills the blacksmith and then finds the secret room full of guns. Who the fuck did they belong to? How did he even know that blacksmith had kidnapped karren? Didn't the drive anway from his house? If so, that cabin obviously didn't belong to him. Was it just a coincidence that Frank happened to find a house with a million guns in it?

Also, I feel like the Colonels role as the blacksmith was poorly explained and made little sense.
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>>80976988
I figured Kilgrave was "nice" to him because he was a steady source of well tailored, fashion concious clothes.
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I love Bullseye as much as any other Daredevil fan, but how exactly do you make him a season-length villain? With the exception of the Ikari arc, he's not exactly a schemer.

I wouldn't mind a season where Kingpin tries to regain his empire, while the real Owl fights to take it from him, with Bullseye as his hired assassin to even the odds between the two.
Slowly, through interactions with Daredevil, Bullseye starts to get an almost "The Dark Knight" Joker-like obsession with Daredevil, even down to wearing the costume. In the end, the war between the two gang leaders ends somehow, and Bullseye basically fucks off on his own to just go on killing people for his own amusement.
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>>80977987
>I love Bullseye as much as any other Daredevil fan, but how exactly do you make him a season-length villain?

Use him as the hand of another like usual.

Alternatively let him find out Matt's identity and fuck with him over the course of the season.
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I want to see him costar in a few Punisher episodes.
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>>80971002

Calling your boss's concern for your well-being patriarchal shit
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>>80978536
I cringed hard when she actually said "patriarchal".

How insecure are women who immediately jump to sexism when men are simply concerned for them?
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>>80978587

She was going at it for the whole season, and I get it, she killed a dude so it's harder to catch her off guard now, but she wants everyone to treat her accordingly without actually telling them what she's been through.
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>>80976803
>>80976849
>>80976900
>>80977265


Except for the fact that this DA is afraid of her fuck-ups being dragged into the light. So while she was looking to bury Frank with the original Public Defender who would roll over and let her execute him in Delaware, she took a deal when the firm that has already outsmarted her and called her on her bluffs twice shows up. If the case doesn't go to trial, and instead Frank takes a deal, she doesn't run the risk of evidence being dragged up. She puts away a criminal who would never actually get parole, all while minimizing possible exposure of her previous involvement.
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>>80976025
>Frank is in shock

You forget who you're talking about?
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>>80977918
They drove a couple hundred metres from the Colonels house, it was probably a toolshed used to hide his armoury.
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>>80978587
>>80978536
Patriarchal does actually mean something outside of SJW bullshit.

In this context she was referring to how her boss was behaving in a fatherly way, worrying over her wellbeing.
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>>80972360
You telling me that blind lawyer is a Daredevil? Yeah, sure and Batman is Bruce Wayne
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>>80979126
It's an easy mistake to make, Anon. His twin brother was the first Daredevil.
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>>80978938
That's what I got too patriarchal as in patriarch because the editor dude was acting like a protective father.

That said the show gave him the reason when Ben was brought up.
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>>80979217
Ah yeah Matt's stylish twin brother, Mike Murdock.
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>>80979596
Who is also Thor
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>>80970564
>see

triggered
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>>80979606
>>80979596
Is it canon Matt had no sense of style?
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>>80979596
>>80979606
Can't wait until Mike appears in season 3
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>>80979632
1) It was the 60's, who knows what style was like back then.

2) He is literally blind.
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>>80979654
Even a blind man can see how ridiculous this looks
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>>80976226
Absorbing Man is on Shield I think.
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>>80972919
That or ambahlamps.

Drives me nuts.
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>>80976576
>I'm one of the few who couldn't stand season 1 Kingautist.
Ok now I hate you
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>>80979668

HEY MATT DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY BUT ARE YOU DAREDEVIL
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>>80979668
Dude, that suit kicks ass.
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>>80979775
You could even say that it is SSSSSMOKIN' hot.
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>>80979739
>HEY MATT DON'T TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY BUT ARE YOU DAREDEVIL

He is actually the Riddler, but don't tell anyone.
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>>80979778
>>80979785
>>80979785
>They aren't posting the cock edits.
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Did they ever actually confirm the military guy is Blacksmith?

I think he's just working for Blacksmith and Punisher is going after the real one in the future.
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>>80970607
Ill take it

Tho idk where this complaints coming from
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>>80979799
He did mention something about how their was something bigger than him going on.
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>>80979796
I don't have them.
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>>80970607
i liked what the movie did with the target being a body modification
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>>80980077
somehow I remember him being fatter in that movie
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>>80980077
with renner wanting a netflix series i think a bullseye then it leads to him being the new hawkeye if he did hawkeye gets fucked in civil war
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>>80976576
THANK YOU WESLEY
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>>80976576
cause his autism only works when he's scheming
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>>80970564
How about some ninjas?
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>>80970564
>>80970564
A fucking budget that doesnt flake out at the end, or the middle.
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>>80970564
One word: Bullseye.
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>>80979596
>>80979606
>inb4 I'm told it looks good.jpg
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You know what i want?
Consistency.

Season 2 is two unrelated storylines jammed together in a way that doesn't even jel together.
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>>80981090
>BANG
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I just read Born Again, where do I go next for Daredevil comics?
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All I really want is Bullseye. Also, don't forget to pay your taxes anons
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>>80970564
Matt unJUSTing himself
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>>80976583
So the ninjas could walk there from China.
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>>80979632
Dunno about Matt, but Mike knows his stuff.
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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>>80981453
MY FRANKA FRANK
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Is Melvin gonna become a bad guy? I really like the weirdo.
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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>>80981583
Melvin Potter may become the Gladiator in season 3 or 4 depending on how long they want to make him DD's armor and weapon supplier
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>>80978536
Do you know what patriarchal means?

It means he was behaving like an over-protective father.
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>>80981975

Right. cause that's totally the word a normal person would use instead of something like fatherly along with the word shit to show just how offended this strong independent woman felt.
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>>80981453
BARELY
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>>80980077
best fukken villain Marvel had

also>>80981453
>she barely 12 mane
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so how long until Karen ends up doing porn and selling out Matt for more drugs
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>>80970564
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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>>80982376

Typically one would say patronizing but yeah it's totally a normal thing to say. I've had plenty of conversations where it's come up when appropriate. Fatherly would sound fucking stupid "You wouldn't be acting fatherly if this was Ben" doesn't flow as well as patronizing or patriarchal, Sorry your vocabulary is so limited anon-kun.
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Mary plz
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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>>80971543
I'd like to see this. Basically a super villain gang war with DD caught in the middle mixed with Born Again stuff.
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I'd like to see Nuke emigrate over to DD. Would love the scene from Born Again, but there's no way in hell we're getting Cap
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>>80976184

If this happens, I hope Kingpin starts appearing in the movies where he plays everyone.
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>>80972740
I have a feeling that the hole in the ground/what's the Hand doing won't be resolved until Defenders
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>>80976184
I dunno I think it would be better if Fisk continued to work behind the scenes and get all his power back while he's still in jail with no one the wiser
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>>80976254
I know I loved it when he got upset with Matt and picked up the sawblade
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>>80970564
>Matt is taking care of ninja shit, maybe finally Madam Gao
>Foggy represents JJ in his new job
>Karen finally reveals to Frank that she killed Wesley. There were a lot of moments when I thought she was going to but didn't
>Fisk overhears this while tracking Frank and switches targets to Karen
>Hires Bullseye to kill Karen, which he does
>This obviously hits Matt hard and reminds him that he can't just focus on the Hand all the time when he has to clean up after his mistakes, so he starts juggling Fisk and the Hand
>JJ has got away with killing Kilgrave because legal things and has a long talk with Matt (out of costume) about whether or not it's ok to take a life
>By this point Fisk is in full Kingpin mode and has his office at the top floor of a skyscraper and is in control of NY
>Foggy asks JJ to investigate Bullseye and Matt (in-costume) acts on her intel to confront him, meets JJ there and they team up against Bullseye, and he ends up getting locked up
>Enraged by Karen's death, Frank takes the less subtle approach of just Franking his way up Fisk's skyscraper, Franking every goon in sight and blowing shit up
>He reaches Fisk's floor, only to discover some weird Hand shit going on and shitloads of ninjas climbing in through the windows, so he bails in a Punisher-brand skull parachute and detonates a bomb, injuring Fisk
>Matt is angered to find out that Bullseye has been released on bail because Fisk, and realises that his skills as a lawyer are still needed
>Matt and JJ confront Fisk and Bullseye after Frank has completely decimated Fisk's forces, but once again the Hand show up, and Fisk's association with them is elaborated upon a bit more before Elektra shows up
>The investors shit themselves as Fisk fights JJ and Matt fights Elektra
>Both are beaten but manage to escape during some severe Franking, sort of setting it up for the Defenders
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A more climactic climax.

I loved the ninjas, but when the End Boss is just "Ninja Guy we saw last season", it's kind of lame in comparison to Season 1's finale which was fucking DAREDEVIL VS KINGPIN.

When you go from a finale that has DAREDEVIL VS KINGPIN to a finale that's DAREDEVIL VS that one guy, remember that guy, it's that one guy, he's serious, you have a bit of a step down.

Otherwise, I generally loved the season.
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>>80976907
more often than not SJW is just used as an insult by people who don't understand it's meaning like autistic is
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>>80970564
I don't really care. These shows, like most TV, all kind of suck, (DC and Marvel both) but they're okay to have on my tablet while I'm at he drawing table.
Even just half watching it, I had to skip a bunch to make it bearable. Foggy and boring fucking courtroom shit send my hand to the slider every time.
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Walton Goggins as Bullseye
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>>80988810
>both are beaten
I mean JJ and Matt are both beaten, though maybe just Matt should get beaten, thinking about it. Jessica Jones would probably beat Fisk in a fight and after a season of Matt being the better fighter it'd make more sense with Elektra being Black Sky for her to win.

So a bit of an Empire Strikes Back style ending where JJ has to carry Matt away and Fisk has suffered heavy losses but ultimately him and the Hand are still winning
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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I wanna see more batman and superman
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double barrelled season

>Fisk gets out, is rebuilding, focuses all his energy on taking down DD, but also knows Frank is a threat.
>Introduce bullseye to take out Frank, Bullseye goes pull MAX, delves into franks psyche and backstory to try and get to know him on a deep level so he can kill him.
>DD endures intense levels of Born Again shit, whilst Frank is constantly scraping by numerous assassination attempts as bullseye gets closer to knowing him.
>Culminates with DD/Frank team up vs Fisk, Bullseye gets franked.

Not perfect but id love it.
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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>>80986851

>Sorry your vocabulary is so limited anon-kun.

And yet you're the one who can't construct a sentence that sounds naturally.
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Yfw Nobu does this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=onvfnqj-LbI
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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Anyone have that scene where Matt screams st the Avengers?
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>>80981453
I WANNA FRANK THAT FRANK
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>>80992240
>yfw
>no pic
newfag get out
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>>80970607
Okay here we go gonna ignore the complications that will surely arise from Matt being in the Defenders

>Season 3 picks up shortly after season 2 ended. Matt is in a relationship with Karen, Foggy is working with Hogarth at his new law firm and hasn't spoken to Matt since Season 2, the Punisher has gone to ground for a while to reflect on his mission
>Matt's relationship with Karen is awkward. He is still grieving over the death of Elektra but Karen hasn't been told yet about that. She is noticing that Matt is acting more erratic and violent when he's Daredevil however
>The Kingpin, still in jail, has deduced Daredevil's secret identity and is setting out on his promise in season 2 to destroy everything in Matt's life
>Kingpin hires a mercenary named Bullseye to assassinate targets close to Matt.
>Bullseye proceeds to kill the clients that were in the Hand's bus at the end of season 2. Matt meets him a few times and the two tussle but Bullseye always manages to get away
>Kingpin has Betsy kidnapped and beaten causing Melvin to attack Matt in his Gladiator costume, buzzsaws and everything
>Meanwhile Elektra has been revived by the Hand and is now their leader. She becomes psychotically violent when she learns that Matt started a relationship with Karen so soon after her death and also declares war on him. Her Hand ninjas attack Matt in his apartment with Karen where she learns about Elektra. Karen becomes upset when she realises that she is essentially a rebound from Elektra (similar to Milla's reaction when she found out about Elektraand Matt's breakdown). Karen leaves him intending to leave the city for good.
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>>80994309
>Kingpin proceeds with phase 2 of his plan and releases the information that Matt is Daredevil to the public. He is targeted by scores of criminals (with cameos from a bunch of Matt's D-Listers in their civilian identities) who overwhelm Matt outside of his suit. Frank appears and saves Matt's life by gunning them down.
>Matt is subpoenaed to appear in court and his attorney's licence suspended pending the results of the trial
>Matt's bail is paid by someone who turns out to be Foggy who is also willing to represent him in court.
>Foggy during the trial gives an impassioned speech on the importance of vigilante justice with nods to the one Matt gave about the Punisher in Season 2 and also abuses legal loopholes and Matt's blindness to make reasonable doubt as to whether he's Daredevil
>The court is moved but before the trial ends, Foggy is shot through the window by Bullseye, his life barely saved when Matt tackles him to the ground at the last second
>Matt rushes out of the court and runs down Bullseye, beating him to within an inch of his life. He remembers some moralistic thing Foggy said during the trial and leaves him for the cops to arrest
>Bullseye never makes it to hospital, he is intercepted and brought to a private clinic owned by Fisk who surgically implants strips of adamantium onto his bones (not sure if Netflix is allowed to use adamantium)
>Matt realising that this will only end with either him or Fisk dead, willingly allows himself to be arrested, confesses to being Daredevil and has himself thrown in jail
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>>80994354
>Matt faces off personally with Fisk in jail who gloats about defeating the Devil himself. Matt proceeds to do a Back in Black Spiderman scene and severely beats and humiliates the Kingpin in front of all his men, sending him into a coma after promising to kill him if Foggy dies.
>Matt resigns himself to jail to pay for his failures when Elektra's ninjas kill the security guards and tell Matt to meet Elektra in his local church so she can kill him personally. To provide more incentive, they reveal they have kidnapped Karen.
>Matt arrives at the church and proceeds to duel Elektra to a standstill. The fight is interrupted however with the arrival of the now fully healed Bullseye who joins in wanting to be the one who personally kills Matt. Daredevil, Bullseye and Elektra proceed to have a lengthy three way fight
>Elektra is the first to be knocked out since she still has reservations about killing Matt. Matt gets the better hand of Bullseye but as he goes to tend to Elektra, Bullseye throws her sai at Daredevil which is intercepted by Karen who dives in the way to save him
>Matt wrecks Bullseye and uses the sai to carve the bullseye into his head giving the same speech he does in the comics
>Matt however realises that his life is now in ruins. He covertly meets Foggy at the hospital who is now conscious. They arrange a plan not heard by the audience but is soon revealed to be that Foggy will claim Matt died when the Hand attacked the prison. He states very emphatically in front of the news that "Matt Murdock is dead."
>The last shot of the season is Matt in his Daredevil costume (sans mask) looking sadly over his city. Stick comes up behind him and asks if he's ready to fulfill his destiny. Matt sadly says yes and puts his mask on showing that he has given up on his civilian life.
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>>80990154
I think you meant "natural" there buddy, otherwise you're the one writing the unnatural sounding sentences :^)
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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>>80994354
Vibranium, not adamantium, but yeah.
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>>80976241

DD2 > DD1 > Daredevil (Ben Affleck Film) > JJ

Yeah, JJ was that bad. Kilgrave was the only good thing about that show, and they killed him off.
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>>80976241
>JJ was wayyyy better than season 2 of DD

>There are people with tastes this bad.
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>>80976735
I got the impression Hogarth (that's her name, right?) was just flattering Foggy to get him to join. I mean, it's always been apparent he's a talented lawyer, and it benefits her to pick up someone who's making waves and jobless, so making him feel important is reasonable.
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I watched season 2 but haven't paid much attention.

What was the hole for?
Why did they use kids as incubators?
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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>>80979668
I don't see any problem. Even had some black bits: thats cool.
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>>80976241

>Jessica is like a regular person fumbling her way through shit and constantly getting her ass kicked

This.

I think this is what I appreciate about JJ. She felt like a real person, good intentions, fuck ups and all. She was wholly flawed and had moments of selfishness. Basic human nature with super powers thrown in. It's a breath of fresh air compared to "WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY I'M A HERO BLAH BLAH" archetypes you see in most cape shows.
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>>80973254
RedBatman
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>>80981453
my kinda frank
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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I want a season one punisher. Didn't realize how bad I would want it especially since I don't really enjoy him (MAX was fucking perfect though and I'm glad they went that route )
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I hope we get a punisher season 1 with guest stars ghost rider and blade
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>>80976241
>Jessica Jones above anything
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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>>80970607
nooo pls not Karen nooo no kill pls
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>>80978536
That was funny because Karen was being all like "fuck the patriarchy I'm my own woman and sheet" and boss reporter Jew is all like "bitch this ain't because you a weak ass bitch it cuz the last person to do this job a tough ass nigga named Ben Ulrich got fucking killed".
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>>80981453

MY KINDA FRANK
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>>80979720
Wesley was the true villain of season 1.
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>>80988810
>Madam Gao
Nah nigga

I hope she turns out to be Crane Mother and Iron Fist has to deal with it
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I'm rewatching season 1, and god it was great.

Season 1=Season 2
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>>81008383
I'm thinking of watch Season 1 again, then Season 2 again right after.
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I want Bullseye to ruin everything ever
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>>80970564
Here's what I'd do:

- Kingpin gets out of prison, Vanessa comes home. We find out she's was pregnant, comes home with their son. Fisk gets to work rebuilding his empire further..

- The Chaste steps up after telling Matt that Elektra's body was stolen by the hand. Introduce Echo (mute ninja chick) as Matt's guardian, to keep tabs on him, AND be her test to full Chaste initiation.

- Karen has a crisis of conscience after Matt's reveal. Begins taking extensive notes when Matt's not around. Pressure begins to build, looks for a way to deal with it, turns to drugs.

- New vigilante begins making the rounds, decked out in white and seemingly "not all there" (MOON KNIGHT). In the season, Moon Knight's actions start resembling Punisher's level of violence, which is shown to have an impact on him as "lengths he doesn't want to go to, but sometimes, he's not himself at all".

- Foggy gets appointed as Jessica Jones' liason and personal legal counsel (to keep the both of them in check). When he finds out she's not "average" and needs help on something, he knows he has to go to one person alone for this matter: Matt.

- Kingpin sees the power vacuum in NY, and begins making a push, going up against an unexpected enemy: the Maggia and their leader, SILVERMANE.

- Karen, in her quickly devolving spiral, sells info to someone that shouldn't know about Matt's dual identity, which gets back to both the Maggia and Kingpin. As both sides fight for the attention of the Ones Who Killed the Devil, Kingpin brings in a new menace for all sides: BULLSEYE.

- Typical street level cape action happens, with Jones, Cage, Moon Knight and the Chaste stepping up to help Matt in his hour of need, with Matt personally facing off against Bullseye.

- Season ends with DD and some of the "Defenders" sharing info and keeping in touch. Kingpin's approached by the Hand, and taken to their new leader: Elektra, who then offers Fisk an alliance to take down their enemies. Namely, Daredevil.
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Fisk gets out of prison, tries to fuck up with Daredevil. Using Bullseye and targeting people close to him.

Almost succeeds. Punisher to the rescue. Defeated he plans to escape, But he knows that The Punisher will hunt him to the end.
So he fakes his death by "Crashing his plane".NO PUN Intended.

Only problem is, Bullseye is on the loose.
Kingpin employs a mercenary name "Bullet", to close al ties to him, so he cant be tracked down.

Culminates in a triple fight with Bullet-Daredevil-Punisher.
With Punisher crippling bullet and failing in killing him.
Bullseye becoming more psychotic,

Culminates with Bullseye vs Daredevil in a subway station, then to a traffic area. Bullseye manages to fuck DD's hearing gaining advantage.

DD overcomes Bullseye by being able to impact his body to a highspeed truck.

SHIELD or whats left of shield, takes Bullseye into custody.
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>>81009490
I like your ideas and love based Moon Knight and the idea of him assisting Matt but I wouldn't pull Jess and Luke in yet. Save them all teaming up for Defenders
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>Matt uses chain as whip and is 10x more effective than he ever seems to be with his fagsticks
>Wonder if he's going to have tard mechanic build him a sick whip or something similar
>Goes back to shitty sticks and proceeds to have his ass beat on the reg
Cmon red
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>It's a Fisk episode
>It's a Frank episode
>It's a Hand episode

JJ was great, but it/Luke Cage needs to step it up to really compete with Daredevil.
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>>81009490
Way too much going on.
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>>80970564
Can we see spidey in one episode? It would be amazin, I love DD and Spidey's interactions.
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>>81009490

>moon knight

nigga you what?
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>>81011339
>Luke Cage

WHY DOES HE GET HIS OWN SHOW? WHY DOES JESSICA JONES? WHY NOT THE FUCKING PUNISHER!!??
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>>81015027
Because they're doing an "Avengers" thing in the Netflix show where each of the members of the big team gets a solo series setting up the team-up.

And The Punisher doesn't exactly work well with others.
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Collin Farrell
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>>81008157
That'd be dope but it would require a fair amount of exposition, Seven Capital Cities and all that
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>>81009712
I'm fairly sure season 3 would be taking place after the Defenders mini, so I figured it'd just reinforce the whole "team dynamic" concept.

>>81011442
I think I wrote up less than what was written up for season 2. I understand you saying "too much", but there was a LOT that happened this season, too.

>>81014917
We all want to see Moon Knight, and considering he is actually placed rather close to Hell's Kitchen for his initial operations, it'd make sense to introduce him in DD.
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>Daredevil, at this point in time, seems so much less inspired than Jessica Jones, which came out seven months after its Marvel universe sister show in 2015 but seemed light years ahead of it in vision and execution. While JJ was a gloomy, noir-ish detective show with powers thrown into the mix, it felt like a superhero show for its time, exploring issues like the meaning of consent, the effects of post-traumatic stress disorder, and the dynamics of power in same-sex relationships. Daredevil, by contrast, is … about a man with a savior complex who wrestles with the morality of violence, which the show portrays in gruesome, prolonged, visceral ways.
>[Jessica Jones explores] issues like the meaning of consent, the effects of post-traumatic stress disorder, and the dynamics of power in same-sex relationships

Daredevil is garbage. Jessica Jones is one of the best shows ever.

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/03/daredevil-season-two/474519/
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>>81017693

??????
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I'm 4 episodes in and I'm loving it even more than the first season, but I have a bad feeling that once the Hand get involved I'm going to care a lot less for the ninja sheneanegains than I did for Frank. Fisk grabbed me a lot more the The Hand in season 1, and it's gonna take a LOT for The Hand to grab my interest more than Frank did in this season.
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>>80970564
I'm done. They are turning this into the Karen Page show. She had more scenes with the punisher then Daredevil did.
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>>81018569

Did the mention his cell block or the name of the prison?

Those might roll off the tongue better than just "The Prison".

Anyway, Thank You Black Wesley.
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Lot of people talking about more Frank in season 3 when I would much rather have The Frank Show starring Frank next year. Also what was up with the micro reveal was that the Black Smiths house and if so why did he have a CD full of Micros whatever it is ?
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>>80971078
He will only get his costume on the last episode. Daredevil in S1, Elektra and Punisher in S2. This seems to be how this show works.
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>>81018768
Are there any promo shots of Elektra's actual costume? You couldn't really see it well in the show since it was mostly dark so I mostly remember her sweater vest or whatever it was costume which for some reason really got my little buddy going if you know what I'm saying
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>>80979126
WHO'S BRUCE WAYNE?
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>>80974025
>Bendis
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>>80973836
She's not even gonna stay dead, so it's not like it matters... much.
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>>80970564
plot
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>>80974002
That part in the end where he said he'd give up on everything for her had me like "wait did I miss something?", shit was so sudden, a complete 180.
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>>80976060
Which of the 26 episodes?
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>>80994410
Bullseye needs one episode where it gives Matt and him some alone time so he gets all obsessed Ala Punisher Max.
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>>80970564
Tell you what I DON'T want to see: another power drill through a motherfucker's foot

Shit was rough
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>>80971543
Didn't owl die in the first season?
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>>81019361

There's still his son, whom has been mentioned repeatedly throughout S1
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>>81018569
THANK YOU BLACK WESLEY
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Who's got a picture of Frank's Frankface from the final episode?
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>>80976583
It's Fing Fang Foom's sleepy hole
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Outside the Steel Serpent name/symbol, and Madame Gao, have there been any other Iron Fist references?
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>>81018350
That's because of the 2 storylines thing, if there was no "The Hand" plotline then DD would have a lot more time to interact with Frank also he wouldn't have missed a single trial.
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Daredevil 3 & K̶n̶u̶c̶k̶l̶e̶s̶ Punisher
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>>81018714
that was franks house, I guess micro is someone they knew from their military days.
Next season i want them to introduce gladiator for real, have a spiderman cameo and have Frank franking some criminals in the background
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>>80975297

>candy cane

Too cute for me bros
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>>81020331
>spiderman cameo
never ever

sorry bro
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>>80970607
I hate Bullseye so much. Not only did he kill Elektra and Karen, he's also so smug about it. I don't want Karen to die but it's most likely going to happen next season. You're probably right about season 3
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I don't think Marvel TV gives a shit about Marvel Studio's no magic rule anymore, which is good because we can expect magic glowing hands and dragon hearts being consumed in Iron Fist.
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>>81020360
Why not? marvel owns him again and even just a single episode or a fight scene would be worth it
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>>81020478
There is literally no way to do Iron Fist without buttloads of magic, so they would kind of have to throw that "no magic" rule out the window. I hope we get based Orson at some point

Also they're making Dr. Strange, so that rule is gone for the studio too
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>>81020447
Bullseye is a shitty supervillain
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>>81020331
>Frank franking some criminals in the background
I'm imagining a fight scene between Matt and some new villain with Frank just showing up in the background to Frank some perps and walking away
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>>81020187
C'mon, you can't see where this is going?

Karen Page was a secretary in the comics, on the show she is now a budding lawyer/reporter who has equal say in the goings on at the law firm. She dug up information that Matt/Foggy couldn't be bothered to look for. she was the only one to give a shit about Frank's case and the only one frank would talk to. (a missed opportunity to have Matt Murdock interact with the punisher) DD should have been the one to find Franks house.

I found it really frustrating that DD wouldn't make time or even give a second thought to a case involving someone who was walking a thin line and could go either way. All to let this OC empowered female shine.
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>>80970564
>more Kingpin and another villain
>Punisher fights Luke Cage
>Jessica Jones crossover ep
>Stan Lee cameo
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>>81021155
>more Kingpin and another villain
Yes
>Punisher fights Luke Cage
No
>Jessica Jones crossover ep
No
>Stan Lee cameo
No
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>>80984669

Wat.

Yeah my casual is showing idgaf

Wat.
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>>80984669
Why is Frank crossdressing and making out with Chief Judge Hershey
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>>80981453
My kinda Frank
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>>81021220
C'mon Anon!
Frank vs Luke would make an awesome episode!
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>>81020487

Marvel doesn't own him again, Sony is sharing him with them.

Feige has outright said that the deal prohibits Spidey from appearing in any MCU shows.
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>>81021364
>>81021408

Jason Aaron's Punisher.

The Kingpin hires Elektra as a bodyguard, but she's secretly working for and sleeping with Vanessa, who wants Wilson dead.
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>>80970564
I know it's never going to happen but i'd love to see some Superior Ironman action.
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>>80970564

Karen has to die. Foggy has to be critically injured and out for most of the season. A coma will do fine. No more Stick - if The Hand and/or Elektra come back, they have to get fukt by Fisk and Bullseye.

More Frank, maybe some overlap with Luke Cage and the other Defenders. That should be good enough.
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>>80970564

- Kingpin continuing to be a conniving bastard, returning to claim Hell's Kitchen and ruin Matt's life.

- A charismatic and terrifying Bullseye appears at the worst possible times to fuck shit up.

- An episode featuring Luke, Danny and/or Frank. Claire starts to bring them together somehow.

- Elektra returns and gives some better coherence to The Hand plot. Maybe Matt realises that since they're zombie ninjas, he shouldn't have reservations about killing them. The subject of killing was well explored in the first half (like in the rooftop chained scene) but completely fell apart later on, with the more mooks Daredevil had to fight.

- Foggy going pro, but eventually having to collaborate in court again with Matt. The courtroom scenes in general have been thrilling.

- Karen being Ben Urich 2.0. I don't know how she'll take take Matt's reveal, but I sorta want them to get together again.
I'm glad that Born Again has been set up without her having to become a prostitute. The character's getting better treatment in the series than she ever had in the comics. Have Bullseye put her in a coma rather than have her killed off.

- Melvin having a breakdown and going full-Gladiator before Matt has to talk some sense back into him.

- Maybe Leland's son comes to town to terrorise as The Owl. And Turk steals the Stilt-Man armour.

but MOST importantly

- the series ends in a crescendo for once, a clear climax is reached.

I loved both series of Daredevil, but they both had pacing issues. The first staggered on in one beat too much, whereas the two plots of the second series didn't marry up well enough and the ending was wholly unsatisfying. Nobu and the Blacksmith were a disappointing end to a great season.

Pretty much everything I wanted from this series (Fisk taking over the prison, Frank Franking shit up, Daredevil in costume being more acrobatic) happened, I have faith season 3 will be even better.
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>>80971220
Some /Pol/tards manage to be almost as stupid as tumblr feminazis when it comes to being offended by literally everything.
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>>80978872
This Frank has definitely developed some kind of bond with Karen, though. He'd at least be distracted long enough for Bullseye to escape in the moment.
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>>81026766
You got BTFO already in the other thread already so I'll just copy my post from that one to make you shut up:
>Story gets stuck in a retarded loop of Kilgrave being captured only to escape
>Fight scenes suck
>Dark to a farcical extent.
>Nuke subplot goes to shit
>Obnoxious retarded twins
>Lesbian love triangle subplot that leads nowhere
>Cringeworthy sex scenes shoved in for no reason other than """"""maturity""""""
>The subplot about Kilgraves victims meeting up and discussing their feelings leads nowhere
>Main character is a useless asshole fuckup.
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>>80974719
Frank's too much of a straight man to pull off a show on his own. He'd either need a permanent supporting cast (not his style, so that's out) or a flow of other people to interact with.
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>>80975476
Them or Fing Fang Foom shows up and everything goes to shit.
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>>80978536

I hate how now I can't watch a show then keep thinking that some neckbeard out there got offended by a particular line. Jessica Jones must have been a nightmare for you.
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>>81018685
Cell block D
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>>80978872
This Frank still has the capacity to care.
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>>80976529
>he doesn't want ninjas and martial arts in his Daredevil
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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>>81021120
cool but you realize the reason was to show Matt running himself into a hole as comic Matt does. Matt fucking up is literally his character arc.
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>>81015039
>>81015027

I don't think the Punisher would make a good series. His character just isn't set up for it. The very basics of the Punisher is a guy looking for revenge and punishing criminals by beating the shit out of them and killing them. There's no moral dilemma. There's no possible love story because of his love for his wife. He has already gotten his revenge, so that's out of the question.

The Punisher is a PERFECT alternate storyline/character to have in the daredevil series. He is the opposite of Daredevil in that he is more of a means to the end. He seeks to punish criminals without any morale dilemma. Just that they pay.

Seriously. What kind of story line would they do in a solo Punisher series that wouldn't kill the feel and perception of the character? Just some guy killing a "big baddie" by working his way up the goon list every season? How long would that last? I don't see it sitting well with the majority audiences at all.
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>>80976529

I'm glad I'm not you
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>>81027485
>>81018685

I didn't know what font to use, but here we go.
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It breaks my heart that Wesley's death wasn't at the hands of the Punisher in pursuit of the Kingpin. The dialog would have been fantastic.
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>>81015039
Frank isn't the kind of character who can carry a show on his own without it being just pure action, which gets stale after a while. He needs other characters who he doesn't want to kill to bounce off of.
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>>81028390
You clearly have never read a comic.

>Daredevil
>Punisher
>Spider-Man
>Heroes for Hire

Would be a million times a better line up than what we're getting. And I liked Jessica Jones before the series.
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>>80970607
>>80970822
>>80973361
>>80973388
>>80976025
>>80976184
>>80988810
>>80988743

>Wanting to give autistic fat man more screen time

fuck I'm tired of Fisk already
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>>81028467
Give me a single example of a good story line in which Frank isn't playing the straight man to an ally.
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>>81028671

>Hating Fisk

Truly you can never please everyone.
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>>81028680
The entirety of Punisher MAX alone would make enough story for multiple seasons. Samuel L. Jackson cameos as Nick Fury where they sit and chat about the war while drinking coffee could take up more space than Frank and Karen Page and tell much more of a story with much better acting and chemistry.
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>>81028189
Maybe a mini-series detailing what was going down at kandar (or where ever it was)
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>>81028671
Literally the best Fisk ever. You can say MCD but you're wrong. Being a better actor doesn't make you a better casting.
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Does anybody have a pic of Electra's Final costume?
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>>81028189
Punisher MAX was a bit like that and it worked well, I could see it working when the storylines are between 2 and 4 episodes each.
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>>80970564
Moar Frank taking care of business and for him to get his dog back.
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Pretty sure that blonde haired kid named Daniel that was in that chink's blood dungeon is actually Iron Fist.

That game of thrones guy is just a red herring.
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>>81029500
>Pretty sure that blonde haired kid named Daniel that was in that chink's blood dungeon is actually Iron Fist.
That was the old guys son they were trying to rescue.
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>>81029626
And he killed himself.
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>>81028254
THANK YOU BLACK WESLEY
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>>81028985

Yeah, that's the issue I think with Punisher. All of his "interesting" things have happened in the past. Things that give him depth beyond a killing machine.

>>81029171

Yeah, I guess. But I think they want to tie that into Daredevil. Especially since...well Fisk is in DD and is coming back.

But sadly, not everyone who watches DD and these TV shows are comic book people. Chances are they wouldn't like just watching Punisher kick ass and kill people. Maybe 3-4 episodes of that, but not a whole traditional 12 episode season.
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>>81028189
A Frank show would have plenty to draw out a long show and there are plenty of possible "love interests" with characters like Cole-Alves and O'Brien from Max. If the show followed the Max comics that alone is enough for a couple of seasons that is not to say the writers couldn't make changes to make the story longer or shorter as needed. Add to the fact that the Daredevil show already introduced a possible foil in Finn (who in the comic "lost" his face) and the Cave that Black Smith revealed he is part of a larger network gives plenty for Frank to do. Supporting characters there are tons.
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>>81029025
>YFW Frank hit that.
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>>81030121
>Chances are they wouldn't like just watching Punisher kick ass and kill people. Maybe 3-4 episodes of that, but not a whole traditional 12 episode season.
What you're failing to comprehend is there's a lot more to the Punisher than just kicking ass and killing people in the comics that you are pretending you read.
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>>81030420
Really?
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>>81030121
>Yeah, that's the issue I think with Punisher. All of his "interesting" things have happened in the past. Things that give him depth beyond a killing machine.
The Netflix shows so far are practically based around shit that happened in the characters' past.
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Bullseye and Typhoid Mary
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>>81030462

I'm speaking from the majority viewpoint. Many people don't associate The Punisher beyond what they've seen in the movies/that one viral video.
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>>81030695
Many people didn't associate Daredevil besides the shitty Ben Affleck movie so we see how little they know.
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>>81015027
I wanna eat a burger with Daredevil. Wonder if Hell's kitchen has good burger joints.
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It started feeling like Arrow somewhere around the middle and it never stopped. I didn't want this from Daredevil.
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>>81031282

I've never seen Arrow, what makes it so bad?
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>>80970607
Make the filler stuff with Typhoid Mary and I'm 100% down to clown with this.
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>>81028254
THANK YOU NIGGSLEY
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>>80978872
Considering his family got killed in a crossfire, it could really trigger him, especially after Karen managed to get to him
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>>81028254
THANK YOU BLACK WESLEY
GOD BLESS
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>>81030695
The majority viewpoint doesn't matter if that's not what the show is about. It'll keep people interested just like Daredevil and Jessica Jones and Arrow and Flash and etc. But also even draw in other people who are more interested in characters not wearing tights.
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>>81028254
Thank you Black Wesley!
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For Frank to use the fucking minigun instead of just teasing it.
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>>80975453
My wants exactly, and thats almost exactly how i said it to my gf. I said she should be Franked getting off the plane
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>>81031889
Biggest cock tease ever
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DROPPED.
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>>81032733
>Frank spends six dollars on postage to send Vanessa a bomb
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>>80977687
>Frank talks to younger Frank

God I fucking hate his art
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>>81028671
>fuck I'm tired of Fisk already
I hate Fisk in season 1. The picture/background stuff was fine but the quiet guy saying "I want to make the city a better place" but never explaining it was dull.

Him in season 2 was actually pretty good. Attacking Matt/Punisher he felt powerful. Ascending to the top of prison life felt good. He was more well rounded.

>>80970822
>Daredevil is fighting The Hand in Japan
Does anyone else think The Hand building themselves up might be a potential Defenders bad guy?

I believe we will get Fisk/Bullseye. I hope we get some more lawyer stuff. I think stuff with the Hand will be downplayed and saved for later.

A tiny flashback in season 2 also showed a Nun, possible connection to Matt's mum?
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>>81033272
She means that in the daddy sense you retard.
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Will foggy finally be with the blond lawyer lady who somehow manages to be a bitch and nice at the same time?
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So are we going to see multiple seasons for the other characters before they do The Defenders?
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>>81033272
She's referring to how he is acting like an overbearing father/patriarch. That word isn't exclusive to obnoxious feminism or whatever.
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>>81020478
>No magic rule

Wait, seriously? What a crock of fucking shit
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Why didn't Daredevil mention to Madame Gao about Nobu his army of undead ninjas?

Like, "hey Madame Gao, how do I defeat your main competitor in mystical bullshit?"
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>>80975453
>>80976025
>>81033281
I never realized before now how badly I wanted Vanessa to die
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So if a Punisher show does happen, how soon do you think we'll get 'Cuda?
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>>80970564
Bullseye doing to daredevil what the punisher did to the mafia
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>>81033844

Because he still refused toe believe that shit.
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>>80971543
I'm hoping Fisk will go after Melvin because he's been outfitting DD and in Melvins last stand he goes out in his Gladiator outfit, saw blades and all
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>>81033844
She referenced it for him before he mentioned The Blacksmith.
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>>81033927
Third season
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>>81035324
Thinking on it more, could they even really properly portray Baracuda in TV form? Sure he's a villain, but he kind of goes above and beyond
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>>80973836
>>81019046
>yfw they keep killing off Elektra at the end of every season
No happiness for Matt.
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Hopefully Daredevil and less of these side-characters/mary sues.
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>>81035656
I don't think anyone could do "Cuda the way he deserves
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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>>80983333
>not black fisk
The director's cut was grand
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>>81033927
Jigsaw first.
>>81033809
They're making Dr. Strange, so yes magic.
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>>81018569
THANK YOU BLACK WESLEY
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>>80988810
>so he bails in a Punisher-brand skull parachute and detonates a bomb, injuring Fisk
What the fuck, lol. Netflix is not a cartoon, this would never happen. But it would be funny if it did.
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>>81017693
>violence, which the show portrays in gruesome, prolonged, visceral ways
As opposed to Jessica Jones
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>>81033272
>mfw beard guy turned that shit around on her and said he wished he had
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>>80970564
I don't want to see a season 3 until after the Defenders, but if we get a season 3 I'd like to see Bullseye being set up early in the season, possibly being humiliated and defeated by Matt the first time we see him, I want to see him fall into madness and obsession and also go on killing rampages then I want him to kidnap or threaten Betsy so that Melvin has to make him his classic costume, that would probably turn Melvin against Daredevil because of their deal to protect Betsy and make Melvin go full Gladiator, then I want an over the top showdown where Bullseye is defeated or whatever and a recreation of pic related
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Sometime down the road an adaption of the murdock papers and devil in cell block D would be pretty cool, the second half could be dd, frank, and fisk in prison
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>>81033927
I wonder if it's possible to adapt Mother Russia and Man of Stone to this Frank.
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>>80970607
Expecting this, not the 12 filler episodes, but yeah expecting and hoping at least the Bullseye appearance happens.
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>>81019046
Her next death - if at the hands of Bullseye - just won't have the same impact. Unless she comes back as a brainwashed member of the Hand and Matt is the one to put her down.
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>>80977918
>How did he even know that blacksmith had kidnapped karren?
Frank recognized his old partner at the docks and realized that his old boss was the one pulling the strings.
When Blacksmith forces Karen to drive away the funky song that Frank liked was on the stereo which clues Karen on the fact tht Frank is about to frank that asshole
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>>80970564
spider man
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>>81033272

Isn't that in like episode 7 or something? How are you going to pretend that you're going to drop a show you've been binge watching presumably for hours on end?
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>>81031327

The fact that it's a soap opera for teens masquerading as a comic book show.
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>>81042414
The introduction of Spider-Man into the MCU should have far reaching effects into these Netflix series.

but they won't.
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK
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>>81031327
mary sue love interest who demands every episode be about her
and I'm not using that term lightly. she's the best hacker and better at running over people's companies than they are and every time she pulls a cunt move its the victim who has to apologize to her, and it just gets worse every season
it's a textbook example of an emotionally abusive relationship and we're supposed to be looking forward to when Felicity and Oliver get married
>>
>>81033470
season 1 was as much of an origin story for Fisk as it was for DD. When we finally see Daredevil all geared up in his red costume, we also see Fisk break out of that meek, impulsive character he was at the start and into the intimidating man that he is.
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>>81042604
Actually it's in episode 10, so just about the end.
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>>81041619
As like season 5 or something, ID love to see that. Like, when it's to the point that the show has peaked and the writers don't have anywhere bigger they want to take the show, I'd love to see Matt and Frank as cell mates.
>>
I feel like they shouldn't have killed off Ben Urich so soon. He was literally replaced by Karen and beardguy. But I guess they needed something for Karen to do so whatever.
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>>80979126
You are telling me the guy who fights wearing a blindfold is a blind lawyer?
>>
>>80977918
Heroin is made of Poppies that grow in Afghanistan and all over the Middle East.
The Colonel made his connections with the product while stationed there. It makes sense that he could move some heroin for the cartels out there.
>>
>>81033470
> "I want to make the city a better place" but never explaining it was dull.

How did he not explain it? It was clearly gentrification. Dude wanted to get the poorfags out and bring business in.
>>
>>80978938
>>80981975
She brought up Ben Urich in the same breath. It pretty obviously wasn't in the "fatherly" sense.

But Ellison called her out on it, so whatever, I don't know what that first guy is angry about.
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The scene with the pawnbroker pretty much destroyed my sides. He can't just be a sleazy fence, he has to be a sleazy neo-Nazi paedophile fence. They were REALLY dead-set on making Frank more sympathetic.
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>>81047051
To be fair, that's basically most of the people Frank Franks.
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>dat frankface
It's perfect
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>>80970564
Ghost Rider
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I would like more teamwork between characters advertised should any other heroes come into the scene in S3.

I KNEW how it was going to play out but the way the little trailer thing just before you press play and begin to watch gives you a sense of teamwork, that eventually Daredevil, Elektra, AND Punisher would be out there fighting. Like I said, I already knew what it was but it would have been nice if they would have actually delivered. In execution it felt, at least to me that Elektra and Punisher could have happened in two different seasons and the only way they could keep it from feeling completely untied was by having Frank "Red Hood" himself into the finale.

And I realize this is a nitpick but he didn't show up until AFTER Elektra died so even then it didn't feel like it was an effort between a trinity coming together. [/spoiled] Again, I know that wasn't the point, but the little trailer made it feel like it could have been.
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>>81046981

I don't know about ya'll but I fucking LOVED Potter and Ellison this season. The interactions were great and they certainly gave better character to them this season.
>>
>>81043340

Thanks to /co/ I can't help but keep a sharp eye on everything Felicity does anymore and holy FUCK was the inclusion horrible this episode. Not even based Cupid could save it this time. But it looks like /co/ is getting what they want and Olicity is officially dunzo.
>>
>>81047453
At this point I think they honestly should have just given the Olicity shippers what they wanted. Arrow is over for anyone with taste, it's at the point where no amount of tinkering can salvage it anyway, so may as well just pander to their new demographic instead of trying to win back the one they alienated.
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>>81047471

Remember how /co/ likes to joke about how the new mandate has to have everyone asking "where is felicity"?

THIS EPISODE IS PRETTY FUCKING CLOSE TO IT. Like holy shit she is tied to fucking everything.

I need to check twitter and see how people are reacting to tonight's episode.
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>>80981453
MY KINDA FRANK

YOU KNOW
>>
Less daredevil lawyer trash and more punisher.
>>
This season was as fun but as pointless as the first one.

Except the Elektra plotline. It was a drag. It took time away from the Frank plot and Elektra didn't resonate with me. Plus they had to botch the MattxKaren romance to make the story work this season. Why can't I have my vanilla romance /co/?
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>>81047896
Matt/Karen is literally the worst pairing on the show. Elektra and Claire are leagues more fun to watch.
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>>81047973
how can someone accurately tell when it was rushed and the ship was written to sink 5 episodes in? like did Karen and Matt even had good scenes this season?

I maybe biased 'cause I don't hate Karen and I got used to her Karenning. And Elektra is just, uggh...

If you like Elektra, good for you.
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Fisk rise back to power - Fisk hires Typhoid Mary and Bullseye - Karen killed by either Mary or Bullseye - Hints of Elektra's resurrection - Cameos by one or two of the other Defender characters
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>>81048018
Karen isn't a bad character but she's bad with Matt. Literally all they do is make bedroom eyes at each other and when they actually talk things out they awkwardly realize they have zero in common. She spends way more time and has far more chemistry with Frank, for god's sake.

Elektra's plot isn't great, but her teasing Matt is fun and there is some interplay between the two.
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>>81033272
You're a goddamn moron, anon.
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>>80983526
Mid season 3 or 4
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>>81045638
I always liked that scene of Frank reading about Matt being in prison so he makes a beeline for a pimp and snaps his neck in front of a rookie cop.
And then prison is kind of boring for him because no one wants fuck with frank
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>>81046986
>Frank you're a big guy
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>>81047051
>MRW that scene happend

http://youtu.be/OGp9P6QvMjY
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>>80970564
There should be tremendous fallout that impairs Fisk's plans, based on letting the punisher go free. That's the kind of stunt that draws a huge amount of outside attention to the prison and gets people fired, investigated, and so on.
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>>80974378
Even her becoming a porn star? Because I'd like to see that.
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>>80970564
a good show
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>>81019026
The bendis run on daredevil is one of the best if not the best daredevil run ever
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>>81048018
Elektra had me wrapped around her finger just like she had Matt.
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Kingpin continues to gain power in prison. Finds out matt is DD, uses it to get the whole case against him thrown out and matt under investigation. Then sends Bullseye after karen and foggy. Killing karen.

Meanwhile elektra comes back to wage a war on someone...the Hood would be cool and would fit this theme. 3 way war with elektra and the hand, the hood and fisk. Elektra kills bullseye.
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>>81018569
THANK YOU BLACK WESLEY
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>>80992240
It says a lot about that movie, that this is the first time I've ever seen that.

Dreadful.
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>>81055185
Interesting
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>>81055185
das bretty kewl
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>>81055185
DEEP
E
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>>81055185
Who represents the daredevil?
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