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What are your thoughts on Volpina?
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>not talking about the peacock brooch(?)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3IhB39v_cU

miraculousubs for volpina
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I was disappointed she wasn't a miraculous holder but I still like her. I hope we see more of her.
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she was cool and the episode was good
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>>80959575
The episode was pretty obvious about it.
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>>80959417

Damn, those guys are fast.
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>>80959295
She did nothing wrong.
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>>80959417
>transforms just to call her out
wow
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>>80959417
I think the biggest problem of the show is how much of a bitch the main is
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>>80959575
She'll probably take the Fox miraculous from Fu sometime during next season.
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>>80959295
She's a cute little heart-breaker.
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>>80959394
I really hope that Gabriel really is Papillon and the writers aren't going to do some bait and switch. I assume that the peacock miraculous was either his or his wife's.
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>>80961997
even if he isn't Hawkmoth I think he has some thing do with Miraculous
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>>80962221
Well of course. He wouldn't have the book and the peacock miraculous if he didn't. Not to mention, Tikki said Fu was looking for the book, so it was probably stolen.
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http://strawpoll.me/7147602
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>>80961795
I bet she's a sweet little lovemaker
I wanna take her home
I won't do her no harm, no
She's gotta be all mine, all mine
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>>80959295
>it's a "let's sexualize foxes" episode
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She was too much of a bitch.
The appeal of fox characters is that they are cunning and mischievous, but not outright malicious.
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>>80959394
Why did Plagg just ignore the peacock miraculous? Is it a fake?
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>>80959295
>fox

Since it's French I expect them to have a chicken girl or rooster guy later.
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>>80961596

Unless she changes her attitude this is as likely as Chloe getting the bee miraculous.

is not
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I don't know why, but she reminds me of Chel from The Road to El Dorado
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>>80963045
Never said I expected Fu to give her the miraculous, although she could try be redeemed in the eyes of Fu and Marinette only to turn on them.
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>>80962429

>best villian

This is a hard one.

Lady Wifi had a great design and interesting powerset, she also came close to get the miraculous.
Mime had a nice story (better than Chloe was mean to me and now I want revenge at least) and I liked the idea behind his powers, as cheap as they might be.
SImon Says had the best episode but not thanks to him.
Copycat was basically an excuse to have Chat on Chat action but that's fine by me
And Mr Pidgeon will always be best boy.
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>>80961453
Hardly. It's easy to be overcome with emotions like that, especially when you're head over heels for someone. Marinette makes mistakes but she is one of the only characters in the entire show to apologize for it (without being a victim of an akuma attack).
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>>80962577
This. I wish they would have gone in a different direction with her. If you have any ideas of how she would have turned out better, share 'em.
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>>80959295

It's going to be wonderfully ironic when someone else gets the Fox Miraculous.
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>>80959295
And here I was getting emotional about the last thread.
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>>80963666
I can't see it happening. They went out of their way to create a character who fit the outfit/miraculous so well, it wouldn't make sense to have someone else have it. However, I can imagine her getting it either by stealing it or after being redeemed.
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>>80963724
Same. I'm glad there's still a little bit more to talk about. Hopefully the comics will be something worth talking about as well.
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>>80963666

>mfw Natfags go back to the idea of him getting the Fox miraculous
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>>80963730

I just saw this art of Alya getting it and wanted this to happen, since she's way more desserving of superpowers imo, but I could totally see Volpina becoming Hawkmoth's subbordinate and using her powers to piss people off enough to get them Akumatized.
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>>80963724
Which episode is that from?
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>>80963780
The Nath-train will never end until they get BTFO'd

>>80963846
Numéric/Digital
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>>80963730

At first I thought she was going to get it because there may have been a grain of truth to her story about having been descended from a Fox Heroine and that necklace, but I just don't think a pathological liar who can't accept an apology from someone who called her out on her behavior will ever get a Miraculous unless she becomes a villain. Someone else desserves that power, and she'll become an elite servant of Hawkmoth because someone else got fox powers.
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>>80963846
Numéric.
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>>80963832
If Alya got it I immediately thought she'd become this.
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>>80963880
I wonder if Hawkmoth will ever find Fu?
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>>80963879
>>80963780

Did someone say Fox Nathaniel?
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>>80963977
That will be the leadup for a season, maybe even the series, finale. Assuming the spare Miraculous haven't been given away at this point.
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>>80964015

*GASP* and give him a paintbrush for a weapon so he'll be like pic related!
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>>80963977
I'm wondering what he would do if Nooroo got sick too.
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>>80964015
Does he really need a pectoral window?
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>>80964135
Probably just throw him away.
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>>80964147

No, but it's fan art, chill
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>>80963879
>>80963884
thanks
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>>80961596
> Hawkmooth locate master Fu
> He has to fight himself but he get his hand on one miraculous and Fu give away the last one since keeping it isn't safe anyway.
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>>80964015
Reminds me of Bruno from Jojo.
>>80964147
Gotta make up for the lack of butt somehow.
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Volpina's a bitch and Ladybug did nothing wrong.
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>>80962944
He barely cared about the book after it was HIS idea to check out the safe.
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>>80964386
inb4 Plagg is the real villain
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>>80964082
Give him nine paintbrushes so he'll be like pic-related
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>>80964440
That... Would actually be a good twist.
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>>80963780
>>80963832
>>80963730

Let's be real, though, we all know who's going to get the Bee miraculous.
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>>80964386
Well, he said he love secrets. Once the safe was open, it wasn't a secret anymore so he stopped giving a fuck.

Or like a cat that bothers you to get something and instantly lose interest when he get it.
Also work with babies.
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>>80964444
I like the way you think, good sir.
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>>80964231
>lack of butt
Sad, but true. Nath's the Incredible Buttless Boy.
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>>80964440
> It's a heroes fight their evil alter ego episode.
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>>80964506
I can see that being plausible with her design but with her attitude I have no idea how that's going to happen.
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>>80964506


imo if it happens it would be like in Total Spies where the mean bitch got to be a Spy for a day and then her memory was erased.
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>>80964680
I forgot about that episode! When mean people get what they want, even for a little while, it leaves such a bad taste in your mouth.
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>>80963021
we have peacock, turtle, fox, cat, ladybug, butterly
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>>80959575
what if her necklace is actually a miraculous and she just lacks the kwami, and she doesnt know it
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>>80964831
Bad head canon, friend.
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>>80959417
>she just walks away at the top of eiffel tower
she either died a horrible death or it was all an illusion
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>>80964962
i dont follow
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Is Chloe going to get any development at all in the next season? She's a fucking threat to society.
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>>80965094
She walked out of a store .She brought the fake fox miraculous .
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>>80965198
>She's a fucking threat to society.
Spider miraculous then.
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>>80965240
I found the perfect costume.
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I disliked that Marinette had so many better ways to confront or deal with Lila. She could have just said hi to Adrien as Ladybug and introduced herself to Lila, than it would have been obvious to Adrien that Lila was lying. She also could have just entered the library lika a normal person and just pretend to look for a book instead of the weird hiding.
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I would have found it much more interested if Lila would have been into Chat Noir instead Adrien. She'd still dislike Ladybug and would like to pretend to be a hero.
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>>80964440
>>80964478

It would be a good twist but it will never happen in this show, and we'll just have settle for plagg acting like pic related.
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>>80965474
>>80965556
This. The episode could have gone in a number of more interesting ways but instead it fell back on played out scenarios. I'm honestly waiting for the right fanfiction to come around that rewrites Volpina into a better character. Really the only good the episode did for the plot was to show where Marinette's weakness lies and confirm that Lila would be a returning character (and possibly a villain).
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She reminds me of pic related
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>>80961453
I kinda like viewing Ladybug and in turn Marinette's arrogance as a character flaw, her ignoring Chloe in Antibug and this episode being prime examples
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>>80963382
kek
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>>80959295
Pretty foxy, senpai
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>>80959792
Talia? Is that you?
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>>80965556
Ladybug wouldn't care as much.
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Her skin colour is really ambiguous

Is she black or not?
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>>80966876
She's Italien
There are more ethnicities than black and white
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>>80959295
we didn't need another chloe, a waste of good character design
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>>80965474
the problem was that they wanted to show her jealous but needed to justify it by making Lila a bitch. It would have been even worse if Marinette acted like that about a nice girl crushing on Adrien.

They either need to save all the jealousy for Chloe or make Marinette grow up about it. The show doesn't need to go there, we know she owns Adrien's dick.
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>>80966876
She's brown like most Italians.
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I want to cram my cock down her throat until she's choking and gasping for air.
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>>80959295
Is this show made for sexual?
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>>80967309
I wish they would tone down the jealousy thing. Its kinda annoying at this point. Every episode is her doing shit to get next to Adrien instead of just talking to him normally.
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Why is Lila trying to flirt with both Adrien and Chat Noir? Why is she such a slut?
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>>80967735
It's French.
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>>80967735

Maaaaaaaybe.
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>>80967883
we need more kung food/origins and less volpina when it comes to adrien/marinette

Now that the season is over, what would you change and what are your hopes for season two?

(we know you read these threads, astruc)
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>>80966876
She's an olive-skinned white girl. Think something like Penélope Cruz (well, Cruz is a Spaniard but it's mostly the same thing, genetics-wise).
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>>80967898
She was flirting with Adrien but at the time she joined up with Chat Noir and Ladybug, she didn't care about her crush anymore. She just wanted to destroy Ladybug. So by flirting with Ladybug's partner, whom she assumed LB had a crush on, she would be causing LB pain.
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I want to learn more about Hawkmoth. Why does he want the miraculous ? Is he really Adrien's dad ? What happen to his wife ?
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>>80968592
I'm 90% sure he wants to use them to bring his wife back to life. I'm 50% sure she's actually not dead but had to leave.
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>>80966876
I thought she was a brown chinese.
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>>80968765
Adrien does say she "disappeared" rather than died in the webisodes. But then again that could have been what Gabriel told him had happened.
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Does anyone have a crush on Chat? Adrian has several, Labybug and Mar have a few, but I don't think anyone in-universe fawns over the cat boy slut.
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>>80968826
Maybe she became a miraculous and left her family because it was too dangerous, faked her death, and was last seen in Tibet. Hawkmoth thinks she's dead and wants the miraculous to bring her to life. Eventually, in a final battle he will get them but they won't work because she's already alive. Clifhanger to new season.
Then
A. A new threat emerged, perhaps keeping the mom hostage.
B. Mom IS the new villian or corrupted
In either of those scenarios, Hawkmoth will join up with his son and LB. Or give up his own miraculous to someone else.

I hope this show ends with LB or Chat getting all of the miraculous to use for a final battle fight against the big bad or save the world from some apocalyptic event. There's alot of places and potential to go with this.
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>>80959295
Can I put my dick in her?
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>>80968913
sure not in-universe
but I sure do
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>>80964440
Well he IS destruction/chaos incarnate
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>>80968131
Hawk Moth is defeated in a 2-part season opener.
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>>80969085
>Mom is trapped inside the miraculous which is why HM needs the power to free her and made up the story about Tibet to protect young Adrien.
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I just watched the mech ep and this was the first thing that came to mind.
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>>80964669
Well she already acts like a queen beetch so I guess she has the right attitude.
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On a scale from one to ten, how is Hawk Moth's plan?
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>>80971231
A four or five when he first tried it (i.e. decent enough), but after it didn't work the first time, and he couldn't get the akuma multiplication effect to happen again, it quickly became a one. In Jackady, it became a full on zero and nearly got himself killed.
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>>80970310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1RYSy55KtA
>bees
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>>80968913
Turns out the whole cat motif really is only attractive on women.
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>>80972664
>That shitty half-a-second heavily filtered tumblr gif that doesn't even loop right
Get out and never show yourself on this site ever again. This is beyond disgusting.
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this show sucks dick with bad villains like hawkmoth. I hope we get an interesting villain like Donald Trump in it
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>>80972664
>>80972742
Stop it, France, you're making it weird.
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>>80964147
Yes, it exposes a bit of skin and gives me something I feel the need to lick.
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>>80964680
Those lips are a little too kissable
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>>80959295
This series is now being dubbed in México for all the spics. I'm amazed it took so long...
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>>80974872
They know exactly what they're doing, even when they're not doing it.
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>>80975454
>>80974872
Chat Noir has kissed those lips and doesn't even remember it. There is no worse fate than that.
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>>80968812
She is explicitly stated to be Italian
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>>80968913
>As Chat's exploits become more well known, a Chat Noir fan club forms
>The members start showing up at his fights, hoping to catch a glimpse of their idol
>It's a bunch of fat neckbeards in suits and Guy Fawkes masks

We also need a pic of Chat browsing /co/ for the first time and getting turned on
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>>80975591
Being Chat is suffering. Sexy, sexy suffering.
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>>80963210
>Lady WiFi
>almost winning
>not Puppeteer

It's sort of crazy how a 9 year old came closest out of all the villains to getting the Miraculous. Fuck, if she hadn't thrown a tantrum and beam-spammed all of the villain powers she would have won. If she wasn't so reckless she would've just had the villains hold off Ladybug and made Chat Noir take off his Miraculous.

Best part: since she's so young and kind of a brat there's really nothing keeping her from throwing another tantrum and getting re-Akumatized.
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>>80977040
Man, I've never liked that suit. Some of the fanmade costume designs look better than that shiny unitard. Changing her hair up after the transformation would also be a plus - would also help suspend my disbelief about nobody recognizing Ladybug's identity.
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Why is it Marinette is the only character that can make more than one facial expression?
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>>80977646
>Lady WiFi
>almost winning
>not Puppeteer
It didn't specify why you thought they were the best villain. If the poll asked who the most efficient villain is or who did the most damage to Paris prior to the fix it spell then Puppeteer would be higher on the list.
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>>80959295
it's really bad when this is all I can think of when I see this
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>>80978849
Hmm that's true.

Though she was the most efficient, she didn't damage Paris too much, since she was one of the few villains who targeted only Ladybug/Chat Noir

As far as damage I'd say either the Gamer or Mime.

Favorite either WiFi or Volpina
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>>80963724
is her hands too lewd they have to pixelate it
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>>80963724
Yeah, I just joined the thread and I thought that would be the last until Season 2.
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are there lewds of volpina yet
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>>80969964
Eh I thought of him more as bad luck.
Sort of like Jinx from Teen Titans, where things she touches can erode or break at will.

Plus there's the fact that Chat Noir has TERRIBLE luck when transformed.

>successful sneaking up on villain, bystander yells wishing him good luck
>nearly crushed by bus in first episode
>locked in freezer during fight with Lady WiFi
>mind controlled at least twice (causing bad luck for the villains since he's on their side at this point)
>locked in sarcophagus
>digitized during fight
>tricked into chasing an illusion
>transformed into Reflecta
>absorbed into time
>nearly beaten up by own bodyguard
>beaten up by Antibug

I figure the only reason he doesn't drag down Ladybug with him is that her good luck powers cancel out any bad luck he could bring her.
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>>80964440
Why is evil always sexier?
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>>80968131

-Lila ends up befriending Marinette, giving an interesting contrast where she likes her civvie form but not her alter ego. We could also learn more about her this way - for example, she could actually be tremendously insecure while still being prone to outbursts of anger and being vindictive. Clear flaws, but we don't need her to be a one-dimensional bitch like Chloe. It wouldn't justify her lying to everyone, but we'd understand the why behind it.

-As a matter of fact, give Chloe some character development so she can stop being such a one-dimensional bitch. Her bitchiness is so excessive I swear any more of her shit will end up with me being akumatized after my anger breaks the dimensional boundary and is felt by Hawk Moth (maybe my power will involve throwing out greentext).

-Plagg is playing the long con and he is just pretending to be stupid. He knew damn well about the book and the other Miraculous, but he actively acted like "muh cheese" for some reason, probably he already figured out who Hawk Moth is and doesn't want to go "yeah your dad is our mortal enemy lmao".

-Fu allowing for identity reveal. At thid point LB and CN would probably be better served by knowing who the other is.


-Have an episode with a non-Miraculous hero helping the duo. Astruc has made clear there are other heroes in this universe.

-Have someone find out LB or CN's identity and act as secret keeper. Preferrably Alya.

-Just be more plot-focused in general. And stick to chronological order.
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>>80980511
>(maybe my power will involve throwing out greentext)
> Anon, I'm Hawkmoth. You... hum... will be able to...damn... I got nothing.
I think it will be hard to do something with Chloe. It would either take a huge time to develop or need her to be broken with isn't in the tone of the show.

>>80980511
>Just be more plot-focused in general. And stick to chronological order.
I'm expecting that to happen, Code Lyoko went the same way: one season with very little plot and almost no specific order (except for season finale). A shame they have to make a full season before being able to really start the plot.
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>favorite animal is foxes
>there's a girl that has a fox costume
maybe i should start watching this show now
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>>80959295
I think that she was ultimately an unnecessary addition to the cast, we already have a Chole we don't need another class a unrepentant bitch.
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>>80961453
Just pointing out eventually Lila would have eventually been called out publicly anyway, and she was lying between her teeth about Ladybug.
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>>80964533
Or he wanted Adrien to lose it so that the book would no longer be in Hawkmoth's hands.
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>>80981462
But that assumes that Plagg has figured out Hawk Moth's identity. I suppose he might have only been pretending to be an idiot. But I find that unlikely. The fact is Adrien and Plagg lost the book in the library. That was kind of a bitch move by Lila.
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>>80968242
No she still cared in fact she ran to Adrien and continued to lie to him. Then got mad when he didn't believe her.
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Just watched the first episode and I've got the feeling that this show is going to be very, very formulaic. When's Volpina?
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>>80981591
The turtle kwami was able to sense Nooro being used, so maybe Plagg can do the same. Or he may have just put two and two together Adrien's Father shouldn't have the book after all.
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>>80981658

>Just watched the first episode and I've got the feeling that this show is going to be very, very formulaic.

Everything but 3-4 episodes more or less follow what you've already seen, yeah. There's also little to no continuity outside those few.

Volpina should be episode 24, going by French airing. The English dub is a ways from getting to it.
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>>80981719
Alright. I suppose they use the same transformation sequences every episode?
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>>80967883
I think that both Adrien and Marinette have things to work on. Adrien needs a fucking backbone and to be less gullible.

I do think that we either need to tone down Marinette's jealousy, or do something about Adrien. Because at the end of the day a lot of her jealousy stems from Adrien being a doormat, think that both characters were at their best in Kung Food.

I think I'm the only one who was annoyed by him in this episode.
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where's the lewd
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>>80980901
IDK I heard it can be pretty bad.
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>>80982407
I can't stand the intro song, that's for certain.
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>>80982531
Which version?
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>>80981927
But there is no lewd to see here, voyons!
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>>80959394
Hawk Moth confirmed for Gabriel's evil half.

Gabriel is Peacock confirmed.
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>>80982407
It has a few inconsistencies in the writing and the villain of the week format isn't for everyone (great designs, though), but it can be fun. I watched it pretty much for the characters.
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>>80964444
Madcatz okami pls go
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I know she's only been in one episode but Volpina has become my favorite villain .
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Is this the face Alya makes when Nino sticks it in?
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>>80959295

It would be really funny and ironic if Lila winds up befriending Marinette. Also I want to find out if the other classmates learn that she's a pathological liar.
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>>80978849
>>80963210
The Black Knight came pretty far with fucking Paris up.
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>>80982531
But anon, how can you not like it? It's simply the best!
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>>80980511
It would be so excruciating if Alya learns that Marinette is Ladybug, Nino learns Adrien is Chat Noir, both blab to each other about their gest friends's secret identity, & have to sit in silence along with the audience as if either tells it could ruin their friendships.
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>>80990423
You might even say that it's miraculous
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>>80980511
Plagg was the one that wanted Adrien to search the safe, pretty sure he's as interested as Tikki in stopping Hawk Moth but is too proud to act like he cares so he just uses his laziness/mischievous nature to nudge Adrien in the right direction.
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>>80992815
kek
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Any ideas on what a peacock's power would be?
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>>80994290
illusion comes to mind, dunno why

peacocks are flashy, stage magicians are flashy
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>>80994340
That was akumatized Lila's power, though, and is probably going to be Volpina's too.
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>>80994290
hypnotism maybe, all those eye patterns
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>>80994290
the power to fly
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>>80963832
Looks like that idea is catching on.
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>>80996231
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>>80996231
I didn't even notice the "Guuuuuuurrrrl" at first, how cringey.
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I would rather have Lila be Volpina
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>>80996231
Eh, she looks better as Lady Wifi.

Who is not beyond redemption...
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>>80995096
Akuma powers are made to reflect the person being akumatized, ergo Lila is a liar so her powers are illusions aka lies.

Miraculous though don't seem to reflect their users.
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just wanna say started watching because fuck me and catching up on other stuff.

But Sabrina is cute.....CUTE!!!
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>Thinks about being fucked by chloe with a strapon in dominatrix gear
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>>80994933
Nathan is tiny
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What do you guys want to see in season 2 ?
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>>80997617
>>80997840
Regardless of how she looks, Sabrina is pretty fucking terrible. Maybe she would get some actual friends if she wasn't completely oblivious about the shit Chloe pulls on her.
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>>80994290

something something wind fans
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>>81000881

Hawkmoth not being an incompetent Rita Repulsa knockoff
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>>81000779
I like how he makes himself taller in his fanfiction.
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>>81000881
More episodes from Adrien's PoV. He's supposed to be the co-protagonist, but most episodes are about Marinette. Either you have a show called "Miraculous Ladybug" and make it about the titular character, or you call it "The Adventures of Ladybug and Cat Noir" and give both MCs equal importance and screentime.
Adult female villains. We didn't have a single one this season, I want to see what kind of designs they come up with.
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Lemme get some of them good fanfic recommendations. I don't want some bullshit marichat fluff that's 20,000 words long, don't give me that shit.
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>>81002666
that parachute is adorable
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>>81000881
Also, now that I see >>81002666, more than one set of clothes for the characters. I get that making 3D models is expensive, but at least give the classroom a winter outfit so we don't have the kids running around in T-shirts and 3/4 pants in the middle of February.
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>>81002925
Allegedly February. I don't recall seeing any snow in that episode, it was winter in name only. Once again, this is because of the limitations of 3D animation, but that is something they should have thought about before making a Valentine's Day episode. I get that the romance between the two characters is a major component of the show, but there are other "romantic" holidays.
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>>81002766
Secret Santa by the Last Pilot. Or would you rather like to read about Marinette getting her period and Adrien getting boners?
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>>81003278
>Happy Mother's Day Adrien!
:(
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>>81003572
Shit I already read that one, and I'd prefer no puberty or smut.
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>>80997840
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>>80979488
She had just been using it to hold someone else'
hand.

You tell me.
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>>81003572
I'd link you mine but I haven't updated since the middle of Jan because of school.

Honestly I would just browse the ones with tags like angst and hurt/comfort, the writers tend to be marginally more mature and the angst doesn't usually go overboard.
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>>81004033
Meant for>>81003670
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>>80996231
People ship this shit?
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>>81001640
watched the first 6 episodes so far
so Im guessing she gets no redemption episode even a little for season 1?

>>81003722
the soulless gingers true form has revealed itself.
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>>81004430
I think they find the irony of it funny.
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also dat.teacher hnnnnnnnnng is she a perma background character or is she atleast featured in an episode or 2?
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>>81004662
Or maybe just some yuri retards wanting representation from straight characters.
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>>81002766
Holy shit that picture is saucy.
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>>81004430
If a two characters exist, someone will ship them.
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Does this show air on tv? Because ive constantly looked for the scheldule and i see nothing
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>>80981775
Yeah, though there are one or two variants iirc
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>>81005717
Depends where you're watching from. I don't know the full list but currently it airs in North America, UK, France, and Korea. You'll probably find that answer on mlsubbing or miraculousubs tumblr. A majority of fans watch the french dub with eng subs.
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>>81005798
It's just the regular and origin ep. variants, right?
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>>81002697
adrien gets possible two miraculous holders as parents, and his father is the big bad and people still bitch he doesn't get enough focus?
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>>81002766
>bulshit marichat
my nigga

http://archiveofourown.org/works/5978767/chapters/13739953 no powers, but pretty funny and well written
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>>81001640
sabrina is not oblivious, she's a petyr pettigrew, likes to bully and humilliate others but is too much of a coward to do it on her own
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>>81005805
I watch it in the us
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>>80959417
>>80959295
My family name is Volpi and apparently all it takes is one character with even a remotely similar name to interest me. Hope this shit is good.
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At the beginning of the origins episode the audience is greeted with a mass amount of knowledge. Nuroo is narrating to Hawkmoth the abridged history of the stones. Hawkmoth learns about the powers to rival god's by combining the ladybug/chatnoir stones, and aspires to use said power-- looking down at the locket of Gabriel's wife/Adrien's mom. Nuroo reminds him that using the stones for evil is some bad shit, dont do it, etc.

From this the audience can gather
>Cockmoth wasn't always evil
>Hawkmoth is just now acquiring the moth brooch/pin
>His motivation lies in Gabriel's wife/Adrien's mom.

Then later on in the Volpina episode we learn that
>Adrien's dad has the Peacock stone
>HIs wife's dead or missing
>He's got a book on this shit

Putting this together, I'll add it to a personal guess of their personalities. I'm betting Gabriel was the original owner of the Peacock stone and used it (similar to Marinette/Adrien) without knowing of the origins; he knew the effects and powers. His showyness was part of his success to being the BIG BOSSU of a fashion industry.

His wife on the other hand had Nuruu; and inspired people. SHe was a muse of sorts and would change people for the better, and give them skills of confidence, agility, and talents they knew not that they possesses. Unlike Cockmoth, she used the abilities for good.

Eventually, she either died or ran away. Maybe defeated in battle, or someshit. Who knows.
She leaves behind the miraculous to her husband, quitting all the bullshit pressure, and ashamed, Gabriel puts both his and her miraculous away. Too butthurt to put his on, one day he puts hers on- hoping to find the runaway ho and ends up having a brief summary of the powers.

Somewhere in him, it clicks that maybe he could use the stones to find her (and then later he learns about the godlike power to bring her back.)
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>>81005996
It's on Nickelodeon.
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>>81005880
Adrien might have a bazillion plot coupons, but that matters very little if the underlying plot is irrelevant for about 85% of the season. We see very little of Adrien's daily life, his job, his relationship with other people, his dreams, because the episodes always follow Marinette: "Marinette enters a contest!" "Marinette designs an album cover!", "Marinette is hornier than a chicken!", "Marinette babysits a brat!", "Marinette runs for class president!". I'd like to see more episodes where Adrien does something/has a problem and we follow him through his day.
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>>81005864
Pretty much, though I believe the MCs transform once or twice without any sequence, though that's usually in episodes where they transform once already
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>>81004736

I have no proof, but they definitely seem to like using every character they have at their disposal eventually.
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>>81006873
Because Adrien has very little connection to the outside world, besides he might be frustrating to follow.
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>>80987422
Lila would never befriend anyone who likes Adrien
Mari or Chloe
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>>81008653
Yeah Lila was stated that she wasn't looking for friends she wanted to be the center of attention.
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>>81006249

I think Fu also mentioned in the Origins episode that he's only made one mistake in his life, and won't make another one right? Kind of wondering if he was referring to Gabriel with that (assuming he was the original owner of the peacock miraculous). Perhaps in giving him his power to begin with.
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>>80972664
>>80972742
>fake Chat's boypussy resting firmly against Chat's crotch

Oh jesus.
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>>81011809
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>>81002766
Werecat in London is pretty good, runs with the idea that other countries have their own magic shit going on. Might have smut later if the author's previous works (also good) is any indication
http://archiveofourown.org/works/6176572/chapters/14151175
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Ah yes, Alya.
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Love those hips.
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Why can't ladybug stick to walls and ceilings like actual ladybugs and Spiderman?
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>>81016995
Or fly for that matter?

Though I think the answer is that they came up with her design way before everyone else, though I hope they take the Magical girl route and upgrade it eventually.
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can someone do me a favour and post the adrien fedora pic

i went looking through the archives for it and couldnt find it anywhere

i'll give you an upvote if you post it
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>>81017240

>upvote
This isn't reddit.
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>>81017223
Her costume is just so plain compared to Chat Noir's. She doesn't even have on actual shoes. I wish it were better.
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>>81017784
no shit, really?
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>>80997617
Mmmm
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>>81018027
It actually needs less polkadots on the outfit, and a bit more black and more buggy so to be more reminiscent of an actual ladybug.

I mean I get why her outfit looks the way it does, because the original concept was in a similar vein as Kick Ass. But we've kinda moved away from that concept so her character design should reflect that. Just giving her gloves and boots improves her outfit immensely.
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>>81006360
I know that, but can you watch it on tv or nicks site
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There will be a ladybug panel at a german convention (DoKomi) in spring. Thomas Astruc will be joining. Anyone going?

I'll be cosplaying Chat for this, seems like there will be many cosplayers and fans attending.
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>>81021142
Forgot source:

fb.me/4EOYY8QuT

and

http://miraculous-yoyo.tumblr.com/post/141550137802/thomas-astruc-at-dokomi-2016-in-germany-great#notes
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>>81021142
I want to see Tikki and Plagg interact.
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>>81021142
I'd just spend too much money on merch and go home broke. I'll pass.
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I wonder how the Butterfly Miraculous works when you're not evil. All I think we know is that it is used to make a champion but how do you choose them? Or does Hawkmoth only use the ones with grudges and anger because they're easier to persuade?
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I want to fuck Cat Noir.
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>>81024326
My nigger. He's the most handsome male I've seen in western media in years.
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>>81024212
It probably senses emotions like bravery or fear gives powers to them
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>>81024326
Who doesn't
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>>81008536
Jackady is one of the best episodes of the season and is an Adrien center episode.
Not the same anon, but i agree that another episode following Adrien would be interesting.
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>>81025489
There was literally no reason Adrien couldn't have kept the book and found his way to Mr. Miyagi.

The idea that Adrien isn't allowed to be useful on an episodic basis, much less a series-wide basis is frustrating as hell.
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>>81024212
When used for good is has the power to reuse past villans as heroes.
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>>81015564
Well, in French at least, I believe she's voiced by Yugo from Wakfu's VA, so she somewhat hails from the land of hips to begin with.
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>>81025651
>series finale has LB and CN transforming all their friendos and everyone else into their akumatized forms, but this time with their proper senses in order to fight the Ultimate Evil
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>>81025489
But it was also a plot centered episode, which is a bit of a problem with him good Adrien episodes mean the story moves forward but outside of that you've got The Bubbler which focused on him and it was one of the weakest episodes.

>>81025521
He's already got a means of finding out without the book though.
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>>81025651
Probably since it being used for good maybe that the transformation isn't forced. Hawkmoth being a control freak actually lessens his effectiveness.
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>>81024212
Butterflies are symbolic in psychology (thanks, Jung), serving as "positive" and "normal" thoughts and emotions. When Hawkmoth "corrupts" a butterfly into an akuma, he's trapping those sorts of emotions, and blocking out more positive ones and accenting the negative emotions. This becomes obvious when an unpurified akuma can be expunged, but then called back when negative emotions return.

It's likely that the Butterfly miraculous requires a strong thought or emotion to get its kickstart. The more powerful villains have been those that were more creative (Lady WiFi, Evillustrator) or those more emotionally charged (Marionetteiste, Stormy Weather). Everyone else lies somewhere else on the spectrum, usually towards one or the other. In the case of Volpina, she's probably one of the closest we've seen to date of an akuma that was both Creative and Emotional, which is probably why she's a more dangerous foe in the long run.

This is also likely impacted by the "neutral" state of the person's emotions, not just "they're mad". For instance, Chloe is more or less always irritated and bitchy, so despite having a fairly strong emotion behind her transformation into Antibug, the fact that it wasn't that far from her usual state impacted the overall power of her akumatization. This combined with her known lack of imagination meant she wasn't honestly that good a choice as a villain.

So what does this mean for a 'good' wielder of the Butterfly miraculous? Probably something along the lines of "Paladins. Paladins everywhere."
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>>81025521
Adrien has a way to reach the conclusion of who Hawkmoth is without the book. Marinette has absolutely no connection on a personal level to what's going on with Hawkmoth or anyone else. The book was a necessity to get her personally involved in the overarching plot.

Adrien will jump in the moment a chance appears. Marinette has to be convinced. The only reason this particular episode is frustrating is because Chat's been handled poorly for most of the season. Nobody would be complaining if this was only the first or second time that Adrien "wasn't allowed to be important".
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>>81025440
I don't. Guess I'm too gay to like dicks.
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>>81029032
There's a lot of reasons why Marinette got the book instead of Adrien, in fact from a story telling perspective it's probably smarter to give her the book.

Though I think that Adrien's general lack of importance may be due to his personality. Adrien's not very assertive and generally inattentive and gullible. In top of that because of Hawkmoth's true identity he can't have an actual rival like Ladybug and Volpina, and he's too worried about stepping on someone's toes to do so. On top of that he's still in "the outside world is amazing" mode, so there's a big limit in what they could do with him, especially since he doesn't need as much build up as a character.
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>>81026175
Are you me?

I literally thought of this exact idea a couple days ago.
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>>81030793
I don't think there's anything cooler than the kind of final battle where everyone unites against the stronger foe. And seeing how the series is trying to build a theme of 'friendship and teamwork can overcome bad moments', it seems crazy enough to work.
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I need more fanfic recommendations, particularly involving a reveal and not involving a shit ton of gay ass marichat bull shit.
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>>81031688
You're in luck:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5989717?view_full_work=true
A couple arguably have some Marichat but mostly not
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>>81031688
>Wants a reveal
>Doesn't want "marichat bullshit"
You only get to have one of these. Any reveal that isn't immediately followed by 14 chapters of lovey-dovey bullshit between those two is writing the characters wrong.
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ladybug ships will never be as good as this
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>>81031799
thank you.
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>>81031848
i don't mind marichat, but when they write some bullshit like chat noir just starts going to marinettes house and they fall in love but they dont think it's right. it's all the same, and it got old, fast.
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This thread has been up for 2 whole days and I have not seen a single lewd pictures of the OP chick.

This thread blows.
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>>81031688
What's wrong with Marichat? I like Marichat.

I haven't read many MLB fanfics though.
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>>81031944
here is your (you), now leave.
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>>81032220
We don't even have a thread on /aco/, I can't explain the lack of lewd.

>>81031944
Look, I like that show too, but don't be that way. Don't be /sug/.
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>>81032261
The problem isn't marichat as much as it is how tumblr portrays them, and how many of these fanfics portray them as this taboo relationship between the good little girl and the rulebreaker, cool kid.
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I'm glad that Félix was scrapped in favor of Adrien. He didn't really seem like he had a reason to be such a dick.
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Has there been any confirmation on whether S2 is going to change up the episode formula?
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will Chat Noir ever be useful in a fight and not get his ass kicked?
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>>81032220
It's like you didn't even try >>81002766
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>>81032384
Sometimes I wonder how the episodes would have turned out with him as the male MC.
>Oooh Felix, let's study together! Come with me to the park after school and I'll tell you my greatest secret~!
>Fuck off slut.
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>>81032509
You must be blind because that is lewds of Adrien and Marinette and not Volpina/Lila.
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>>81032509

Neither one of those characters are Volpina.
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>>81032440
I see you cropped out the awful pose/proportions from the image.
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>>81032636
The only lewds that matter are Marinette/Ladybug
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That feel when a girl is better looking than the protagonist
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>>81032929
You take that back. Marinette is the cutest.
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>>81033086
She's cute but Lila hits all my spots dude. Marinette is the pretty girl next door. Lila is that girl you meet on a trip that steals your heart but you never see her again
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>>81033197
Lila is a lying bitch. That's worse than a regular bitch.
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>>81033231
You seem to be under the impression that it's a bad thing. Do you even femme fatale? being a bad person is like rule #1
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>>81033086
my nigga
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>>81033436
Actually no, I'm into military women.
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>>80959295
Sucks
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>>80959295
she looks more naked than the others
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>>81032636
She kind of turned everyone off to her, even she was revealed to be a lying bitch. The only people who like her are those who only care about looks and Chole apologists (who are delusional anyway).
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>>81005918
Know anymore fics like this one?
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>>81033436
She's not even a femme fatale just a lying bitch.
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>>81018536
You can watch it on Nick's site.
And the airings:
>USA: continuing broadcast on Nickelodeon Channels. New episodes are currently on temporary hiatus and TBA. Reruns on Saturdays at 4PM EST on TeenNick and 8:30PM EST on Nicktoons
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>>81034306
They might be stalling for time for the second season.
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>>81034275
why are you so vitriolic. She's hardly the first character to be a dick
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>>81032261
Canon Marichat is good, I can see how it could work and it's humorous; but, fanon Marichat absolutely obliterated my love for it. Unfortunately all the fanfics, fanart, and even the Marichat related au's (except maybe the Cinderella au) can't get their relationship right. It's sad, really.
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>>81032408
No confirmation, just our wildest hopes and dreams.
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>>81034386
Could be. They still are playing catch-up from S1, I'm surprised they still need more time. They're barely at Darkblade. If they changed the scedule to a new ep every other week, they might actually finish in time for the new season.
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>>81034460
In not the same anon that you were talking to before.

She's not a femme fatale character, as she's not good at seduction either, just a pathological lying bitch. Hell her name even seems to play off of that.
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has anyone got that picture of adrien mid transform, and someone has photoshoped a fedora on his head?

i saw it once on one of these threads and i can't find it anywhere
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I'd like to know if the 2nd season will change or not because honestly I wouldn't watch another season of this. Not that my opinion matters, really
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>>81034705
If your problem is Chat being played as the bad boy then there actually are fics where he isn't, and Marinette is the one who makes the first move though they're all on FF.net and 90% are angst.
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>>81034973
can i get some links?
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>>81036021
She looks like such a qt but acts like such an ass. What a waste
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>>80959295
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>>81036648
It was only one episode, if the writers aren't retarded, they'll develop their character into something other than a foil of chloe.
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>>81034936
I'm the same way. This actually worries me since I enjoyed the show greatly, but the writing, at least for now, is kinda faulty.

I've got hopes that S2 will definitely change, mostly because there's no way to keep up the villainization thing without introducing more characters, and there's no reason to do that because the whole point of S1 was introducing major and minor side characters and setting them up for further development.

All in all, I'm cautiously optimistic.
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>>80959295
I don't understand why she is tanned in all the fan art while in the show she is just a bit less pale than the MC
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>>81037025

>bit less pale than the MC

Are you watching the show with a tinted screen?
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>>81037025
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>>81037130
>>81037208
like I said she is tanned
she isn't a black woman from the ghettos like in the fan arts
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>>81037410
>like I said she is tanned
>I don't understand why she is tanned in all the fan art
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>>81037467
Are you that autistic that you can't see he's talking about the brazilian-looking shit in the fanart? oh my god. These are the people I share a board with
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>>81037734
Nice reading comprehension
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>>81032384
Felix probably would have been better. Adrien doesn't have much of a character.
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>>81037410
Have you actually seen someone in real life that wasn't white? Jesus dude, leave your house for once.
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>>81036802
There are many ways for them to go about her character. As it stands it seems as though they'll make her work for Hawkmoth which kind of makes her beyond redemption, but still useful for other character's development.

She's a problem for Ladybug since she knows Ladybug's only weakness. For Marinette she forces her to face her major flaw about herself. She's a problem for Adrien, since he's the only one whose really aware that she's a liar and in order to mitigate what ever damages she could cause he has to speak up even if it means that her feelings will be hurt, which will give him the courage he needs to face his father. It makes Chole look salvageable, hell it could even give Alya and Nino something to do.

In other words there's a lot we can do with the character.
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>>81037829
No Felix would just make everyone wonder why the hell Marinette would like such an asshole. People would probably prefer her Nathanael then.
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>>81037829
I think it's actually the opposite. Felix's two opposing personalities were too cliche imo, and seemed to be too much of a dramatic difference for it to actually be realistic without seeming ridiculous. I think Adrien's character blends better with how he acts when he is Chat Noir, but that might just be because we have seen more and understand Adrien's character more.
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>>80963832
>>80996231
>>80996271
If Alya became Volpina then who would record the ladyblog?
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How is this allowed?
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>>81038097
She would probably sneakily record it on her weapon or maybe just keep her cell phone around like Spider-Man did.
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>>81037829
I think Adrien is a pretty interesting character. He looks outgoing but truly he's pretty awkward but that's probably caused by his sheltered life. It makes sense why he's so confident as Chat Noir because he doesn't have to follow by any of the rules that he usually has to follow on a normal day-to-day basis.
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>>81038314
French magic
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>>81038054
>why the hell Marinette would like such an asshole.
you've clearly never watched shoujo anime. Or read teenage novels
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>>81038539
Hence why Felix was scrapped.
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>>81038539
I have but that doesn't make the cliche any better.
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>>81038539
And I don't want to see that shit again if I can help it. It's not fun.
Adrien is actually likable.
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>>81038054
Nah, he's a shojo manga love interest, so it would probably turn out that he secretly looks after kittens he finds in the rain and stuff like that
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>>81040338
I usually hate the "animal that is not a dog acts like a dog" joke, but Fang is too cute.
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>>81040457
that's a pretty specific joke to be hating
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>>81038842
No, the premise of Felix was that he was an asshole specifically to Marinette because he didn't like her. He wasn't a tsundere he genuienly didn't like her.
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>>81040505
Sounds like the French didn't know tsundere was a trope they could use.
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>>81040586
He did but didn't want to use it because it's cliche. Tsundere can be really shit characters.
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>>81040505
They did a piss-poor job at showing that in promotional PVs and illustrations, then. I think the only time Felix was shown to be mildly asshole-ish was a single pic where he used his powers to distract Marinette, who was pursuing him in full horny fangirl mode. The rest of the time he just came off as a cold lone wolf.
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>>81041187
The information was revealed in their first profiles. But the simple fact that it couldn't be gleaned from the PV should tell you that it's foolish to put too much stock in it.
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>>81041032
Male tsundere tend to be played better since they're usually just not honest with themselves more than anything.
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>tfw you will never be able to taste of Marinette's sweat after gym class.
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>>81037410
Tumblr-fanartists usually have a habit of darkening characters' skin in their art, kind of like reverse "whitewashing," you know?
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Any examples of neat framing/direction? There's plenty of dynamic action, but the storyboards are otherwise pretty bland.
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>>81025521
>There was literally no reason Adrien couldn't have kept the book and found his way to Mr. Miyagi.

he's too close to hawk moth, he'd figure out who he is too quickly, marinette is more removed from it
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>>81032164
the problem is that every marichat follows heartstrings (to the point you can make a drinking game out of it) and they have the bad habit of treating adrien and ladybug like the are separate characters instead of part of adrien and marinette
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>>81034204
>The only people who like her are those who only care about looks and Chole apologists (who are delusional anyway).

some people defend her because they won't say anything against the show

i've heard ridiculous shit like it wasn't her fault for lying, but the fault of people that believed her
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>>81034248
smut ones? somebody made a rec list not long ago http://archiveofourown.org/series/415426 and http://archiveofourown.org/works/5776747
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>>81034973
the problem is that marichat portrays marinette as the tsundere girl next door and chat as the hot and sexy exotic seducer, while dismissing his feelings for ladybug and treating adrien like he's the nice guy rival instead of the same person
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>>81038539
it's a tired and shitty trope of shoujo anime and YA novels, adrien is refreshing because he subverts it
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>>81042946
Adrien's face looks off
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>>81043378
People defend Lila as if she was a real person instead of a character written to be disliked.
Even if you ignore all the lying, the writers made her steal a book and throw it to a trash bin after she was done with it, just in case any kid in the audience was confused whether they should like or dislike her.
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>>81043460
Fucking this. It boils my blood to see it happen.
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>>81043716
but you don't understand!!1 you hate her because she's a girl that crushes on adrien! she only lies because she's lonely!!1
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>>81043332
>to the point you can make a drinking game out of it

take a shot every time a marichat fic has a balcony scene

the funniest thing is that canon ladrien gets everything fanon marichat claims to be
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fug off smogonfag.
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has anyone got that picture of adrien with the fedora from his transformation?

I wish i'd saved it
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>>81043499
Adrien's a generic shoujo love interest too.
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>>81045053
nah, he isn't

if you think of him as a generic prince trope, yes, but he's clearly more than that
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>>80959295

Boring addition to the love square, as well as shitty villain.

As it stands unless they do something interesting with her in S2, she'll probably just become a lacky of Hawk Moth as well as trying to separate Chat/Ladybug and/or Adrien/Marinette.
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>>81045053

He's a combination of a few generic tropes ((general nice guy/pretty boy angle, does modeling, rich, has daddy issues, etc)) but he has enough personal character moments that he actually starts to feel genuine.
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>>81045053
Afraid of speaking up but still competent? What's the name of the trope?
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>>81040485
That's actually a pretty big trope in kids films and shows
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>>81043862
And yet based Ladrien is the least popular ship :( Life is unfair.
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>>81045362
Funny, because it's so much more possible than Marichat.
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>>81045362
mmmm dat ass

also ladybug looks good
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>>81045134
>>81045209
I do agree that Adrien is a unique character overall, but there's no denying that he's also based upon generic tropes. >>81045194 He's nice, popular rich boy who is seemingly perfect from the outside but has a shitty family life.

I just think it's silly to argue that Felix would've been a generic anime character compared to Adrien when they could have easily subverted certain character traits for him too.
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>>81045452
>>81045418
Oh so true.
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adrienette > ladrien > ladynoir > marichat
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>>81045998
I love Adrienette, I do but as it stands they aren't the strongest ship in the love square. They need more time to develop a connection beyond the masks. Kung Food and The Gamer were really good episodes for them. The biggest negative is Marinette's over the top stalking. Like to some degree the stalking is okay because it's comical but the calendar is creepy. I want to see more Adrienette moments.
ladynoir > ladrien > adrienette >marichat
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>>81046088

> mfw the origin episode where Marinette first gets her crush on Adrien actually feels somewhat genuine

I was really expecting him to just be introduced as a transfer student in their class and for her to just have a "love at first sight" moment.
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>>81046136
And how could I forget the origins. That greatly contributed to their cause too. It's a work in progress but it's a great ship. And the way they fell in love was incredible too.
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>>81045362
>>81045831
It'd be pretty sweet if this happens and what starts giving them away is recognizing their kissing.
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>>81046627
>recognizing their kissing
What do you mean? Oh and unfortunately last pic.
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>>81043413
Thanks
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>>81041555
No they can be just as irritating as female tsundere.
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>>81043378
They're coming up with some ridiculous headcanons to defend her.
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>>80959295
character's design got me into watching ladybug but then I got distracted by so many boybutts

srsly wtf this can't be a coincidence there's much gaybait in this show
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>>81045362
It could be because it's the least visually appealing.
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>>81001640
Personal suspicion is that Sabrina has a lesbian crush on Chloe and Chloe is exploiting that.
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>>81048332
Bad taste, anon.
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>>81048399
What it's true? Ladybug's design is kind of lazy, she actually looks cuter as Marinette which is why Ladybug lacks lewds.

While between Adrien and Chat Noir, Chat Noir is actually more attractive.
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>>81046627
The chances of that happening are low.
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>>81048571
just wait till they upgrade her costume, I bet that's why they haven't shown her original scarf, she just looks so incomplete without it
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>>81048612
She never had a scarf, that was just her hair ribbons, besides that wouldn't look good.
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