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Why do you hate my show, /co/?

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Why do you hate my show, /co/?
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>>80936344

I liked your show, I just don't think it needs a second season. Save it for characters who have more material to work with.
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>>80936344
I personally don't
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worst body odor in MCU
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>>80936344
Because the central character is an idiot.

>I'm going to let Kilgrave murder and abuse innocent people rather than kill him because I need to exonerate this girl I've never met before.
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>>80936344

Bitches always bitching, bad character development and sucky use of a villain.
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>>80936378
This.
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>>80936403
>implying that's a bad thing
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>>80936344
I don't. I really enjoyed it.

It's your fucking comic book I hate.
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>>80936344
I like your show. It gets a bit boring sometimes. Filler episodes are obvious. But I like your show. Even though OC comic was miles better.
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>>80936344
I don't hate it tho, it's bretty gud.
If it was a choice between your show and Daredevil's however, the choice is obvious.
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>>80936430
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>>80936344
I thought your show was pretty good... I just don't think it has anywhere interesting enough to go from here to justify successive seasons as a standalone series.

You'd be better off doing Heroes For Hire once Luke Cage finishes its single series.
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>>80936344
>Why do you hate my show, /co/?
It doesn't have Frank franking people with his machinefrank. it's, frankly, shit.
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>>80936344
I don't, I just like Daredevil's better, especially season 2.
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>>80936516
For you.

In addition I'd like to say that when the second season drops that I hope it'll be her and Luke with Iron Fist recurring frequently.
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because its a snoozefest
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>>80936471
>>80936629
>>80936632
Who here /can'tFrankup/?
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>>80936430
I bet when she farts little bits of parsley come flying out. Like confetti.
>poot
I won!
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>>80936344
I don't hate it, I just think the script needed to go through two more drafts before filming to fix the pacing and tension issues. There needs to be a better reason to not kill Kilgrave first chance beyond just 'a girl who is willing to go to jail if it means Kilgrave dies would go to jail if he dies'
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>>80936344
I didn't. But it was painfully obvious that David Tennant carried the show on his back and you killed him. There's nothing for me to get invested in with an S2 because the only reason to care about the show is ded.
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>>80936344
I started out enjoying the show, but every time Kilgrave was captured and then inexplicably escapes made me like it less and less. Nearly dropped the show when Jessica gets knocked out by a woman and Kilgrave escapes for a 3rd time.
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>>80936344
you stole luke cages innocence
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>Jessica drinking
>Jessica having a hangover
>the annoying neighbours being annoying
>the junkie neighbor being a junkie
>Killgrave being the baddie in the shadows
>Luke Cage being very disquietingly erotic
>JJ's irritating friend being irritating
>Carrie Ann Moss making butchy dyke faces
>rinse and repeat
What was so good about this series, again?
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Well, like the first season of Daredevil you were four episodes longer than you should have been.
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Everybody loved it. Stop rewriting history.
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is there Bendis speak in the show?
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>>80937068
Bendis speak?
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>>80936916

>Jessica made pure hasbundo Luke impure
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>>80936378
Yeah. I'd rather see her in a supporting role in a She-Hulk series. SINGLE FEMALE LAWYER
Having lots of sex
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>>80936344
But I liked it, Ritter!

Needs Frank though.
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>>80936344
You failed my three episode tolerance test. We had a three hour date and you just didn't interest me.
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>>80937164
Everything needs Frank though, even shows like the Office.
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>>80937092
They speak like Bendis.
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Didn't kiss Trish. Please kiss Trish.
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There are things I do like about this show. Luke Cage is awesome, Trish I really like, and there are some great moments.

But the biggest flaws are
>>Almost the entire show is devoted to catching Kilgrave
>>They capture him 3 times and he escapes by their incompetence 3 times
>>Jessica during the subway scene made me start to want to root against her
>>A lot of the death was cheap and had no lasting consequences
>>Really weak ending
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>>80937164
And Frank needs us
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>>80937194
>The Offrank
>Franks and Recreation
>30Frank
>Seinfrank
>Frank and Grace
>The Unfrankable Frank Castle
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Jessica Jones: The Frank Edit
>Kilgrave at coffee shop
>Frank taking Franking position on opposing building rooftop
>"Bang"
>Mind Controller has his mind painted against the wall
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>>80937324
>The Unfrankable Frank Castle
yes please
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>>80937229
>>>Jessica during the subway scene made me start to want to root against her

Her torturing the helpless villain that was powerless against her made me root for him. She was a meta and none of his juju worked on her. That's not how you make a villain threatening. It didn't work like that in the mini. By the end of it, I wanted her to fall under his spell again.
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>>80937229
>Luke Cage is awesome

He was ruined for me with the dead wife obsession.
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>>80936953
That was every episode like holy shit. I don't feel like anyone really expanded there character at all or learned any lesson at all.
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>>80937302
He already has the greatest IRL Uncle the world could ask for.
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>>80937229
>Not Loveing based Nuke.
He was actually my favorite character fallowed by Pre-Attack Trish and then Luke Cage.
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So how well would Frank fair against Luke Cage? Keep in mind a point blank shotgun blast did some damage to Luke
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>>80937302
Does anybody have a pic of him in his full costume when he's sniping Ninjas?
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>>80936344

I actually like it. Jessica was still a dumb bitch for not killing Kilgrave sooner.
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because you look like that chick who does all the porn of PG

I cannot take you seriously
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>>80937461
Well, I don't have one of the sniping but
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OK WHAT IF

THERE WAS A SUPERHERO

WHO JUST KILLS PEOPLE

BUT

YOU CAN'T HOLD HIM EMOTIONALLY ACCOUNTABLE BECUZ HE HAD A HARD LIFE SO THE FOOLS IN THE AUDIENCE WON'T FEEL CHALLENGED BY HIM
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>>80937499
That's good enough.
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>>80937460
Frank shoves a grenade down his throat. Wears his skin as a suit.
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>>80937302
I wasn't on /co/ for a few day because i was watching daredevil season 2. When did this glorious frank meme start.
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>>80936404
To be fair that is basically the crux of the show and 90% of what she does is trying to stop him doing anything short of killing him be ause of the aforementioned crux of the show. Every time Killgrave kills someone she tries to do something drastic from putting herself into jail to going without sleep for days.
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>>80936344
I liked your show, Jessica, I just liked Matt's show a lot more.
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>>80937547
It started since Jon was cast and pictures started coming out.
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Am I the only one that didn't like Jessica at all? I understand that "sympathetic assholes" are the hot new thing, but I couldn't identify with her. Instead of thinking "She drinks way too much and hates waking up? She's just like me!" I just wanted her to stop being a jerk to everybody.
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>>80937368
>her karmic punishment for torturing the rapist who ruined her life should be to get raped by him for the rest of her life
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>>80937547
Years ago
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>>80937368
Kilgrave lacked intimidation since the first time he was captured.
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>>80937527
Yes, Anon, it made $700,00,00.
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>>80937368
Yep. I had to stop watching the series at episode 9 because I was starting to root for Kilgrave and I didn´t want to see him die.
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>>80937547
>>80937581
Get the fuck out, newfags. This shit started on /b/ circa 2008.
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>>80937028
DD S2 was as well honestly. Netflix should cut their shows to 10 episodes or even 8 episodes like some brit shows, but they won't ever do that because the longer the show the more time people spend on the site
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>>80936344
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>>80937229
To be fair she got sabotaged the last two times by other people's incompetence.
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>>80936344
Not enough budget. effects are cheesy and cinematography is a tad offputting.
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>>80937547
Way before that, because people kept storytiming Frank, and we focused on Ennis' run with Dillon
>pretty interesting insight
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>>80936344
2
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>>80937660
BIG
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>>80937499
I havent finished yet but out of curiosity, what inspires him to start wearing the skull?
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>>80937681
>>80937660

It's not the show's fault you have a micro penis
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>>80937660
wow, you're so triggered by an interracial pairing your either made or saved a sex webm.

i bet you spend a lot of time on BLACKED as well, don't you? we have the closet for gays, we really need a term for these types of people.
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>>80937660
The worst part is this belongs to a universe owned by DISNEY.
And both JJ and DD overuse shot/reverse shot editing.
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>>80937697
A newspaper runs a picture of his x ray
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>>80937697
Nothing. He finds some gear with an oddly skull shaped design, paints it, and makes it his symbol
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>>80937613
his charm and whit and what makes him a great villain, his appearance doesn't need to be imposing, just his character.
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>>80936953
David Tenant depicting a legit psychopath who could recognize and emulate normal human behavior but never understand it
everything with him buying her childhood house and not understanding why Jessica didn't love him was great
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>>80937697
When he saw the newspaper declaring his death and the image of the skull from his "autopsy"
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You know guy know why i hate jessica so much?

She could have used Killgrave.
He saved 3 lives just because she asked him to.She could use him to save so many more lives.And who knows,maybe even save him in some way.From what i remember,he liked the fact that he saved those people.He's still a kid really,throwing tantrums and all,but for the first time,someone had control over him,not the other way around.

Some people say that he's a criminal and a rapist,and i think that he's worth saving only because i like the character.That may be true,but that doesn't change the fact that jessica didnt used his powers to save people just because she wanted revenge.He raped you,yes,but you can use him for good.
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You don't know if you want to be overt or allegory.
Too many unlikable characters.
Stole most of the character elements that make Luke Cage interesting so he can never properly star or co-star in a series.
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>>80937697
he looks at the x-ray of his head with the bullet in it and just decides it
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>>80937728
Who cares? Children know all this shit nowadays. Besides, this isn´t meant for kids anyway.
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>>80937324
What would Castle become?
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>>80937769
He´s like nuclear power. He can be extremely destructive as it was his original purpose, but in the right hands he can be a great gift to humanity.
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>>80937806
Castle, Frank
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As a huge fan of the original Alias series, I loved your show. Also, there's clearly more to do with Nuke and Roxxon who gave Jessica her powers.
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>>80937805
no anon that's the american way you see. decapitating a man with a car door? fine. burning nobu alive? fine blood and guts? bring it on. but sex? THINK OF THE CHILDREN. i'm so tired of that shit
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Anyone else kind of bugged that the larger MCU doesnt really acknowledge some things in the netflix MCU? Which yeah I get it, "small scale vs big scale" and whatnot but at least a throwaway line with Daredevil or Frank. I mean Spider Man is street level
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>>80937660
>>80937681
I liked the parring in the comics but this was a little offputting. Then again i just dislike on camera sex scenes in shows/movies in general
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>>80937806
CASTLE
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>>80937203
They speak like Bendis?
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I found the characters bland and unlikable, and the story wasn't at all compelling

really all there is to it, it was just a boring ass show.
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>>80937672
He isn't blame Jessica Jones for that, he's blaming the writers for it.
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>>80937603
>I just wanted her to stop being a jerk to everybody.

I think you're supposed to think this.

I know I felt deep satisfaction when Luke found out about Jessica murdering his wife and was completely disgusted with her. 100% deserved it.
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>>80937901
Bendis?
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>>80937851
avengers are world-famous celebrities. why the fuck would they, however, know about jessica jones or luke cage or even daredevil? thor doesn't even read the papers
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>>80937769
that he was swearing blind to Jessica that he can turn over a new leaf, then torturing the housekeepers a scene later was proof that you could never trust him. He was only listening to Jessica because he still believed she could come to love him. the second he becomes disillusioned of that, or gets bored of her, or finds some other bit of green grass to lust over, all bets would be off.
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I didn't hate it, but I really wish that Kilgrave was still alive and that he didn't rape Jessica. What made him so fucked up/terrifying in the comic was that he didn't.
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Jessica unfortunately is the least interesting character in the show. Luke and Kilgrave kind of carried the show. The only thing that really bugged me was how light everyone treated the implications of mind control, especially Miss Hellcat
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>>80937947
You know, Bendis.
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>>80938000
The writer? That Bendis?
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>>80937961
Thats the point,there's no one like jessica for him.
Don't expect him to go from a fucking psycho to a nice guy in couple of hours.
He has to be thought empathy like a child,because no one ever did when he was a kid.
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>>80937955
I feel like Tony would, you know?
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>>80938016
Yeah, Bendis, that guy that writes.
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>>80937849
The 'one fuck limit' on PG-13 exists because the violence is simulated but the cursing isn't. That's why Family Guy and South Park get away with all the shit they pull.
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>>80936675
Why is she such a slut?
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>>80936344
I liked Kilgrave's show, but it just wasn't Daredevil.
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>>80937955
Which I get. But then you have Tony magically taking in Spider Man, a street level hero considered a myth, and letting him join in. Showing someone at least reads the paper. Which Im not implying we should have full on crossovers Im just saying SOMEONE should acknowledge Punisher or Daredevil exist. Luke and Jess not so much.
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>>80936632
i thought season 2 failed to pop as much as the first season. It had some very good highs, but some pretty low lows, too. In particular I hated how they redid the interpersonal drama dynamic from season 1. Oh sure DD having trouble balancing his work and heroic activities was a given, but his issues with Foggy adn Karen were practically the same shit from season 1. Then FINALLY revealing his identity to Karen is treated like some huge cliffhanger after dragging it out for two seasons.

I'm not really sure what they'll do with JJ season 2. Like people said her material is a little light. Maybe it's a chance to add to her, though.

Actually what I'd rather have than any of these shows is an entire series about Ben Urich investigating shit and getting involved with various heroes. I really liked his character in DD, they did some good things with him but he felt wasted in the end. Well, literally, but him investigating Purple Man in JJ would have been a nice tie-in. Not that Rosario Dawson wasn't, she's great in all of this. Karen replacing Urich just wasn't the same, even though it was obviously where they were going since DD season 1.
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>>80937324
Seinfeld already had more than enough Frank, and it was glorious.
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>>80938179
ONE BATCH TWO BATCH GEORGE!
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>>80937527
But what if
...just listen to me
guys
seriously guys
what if...
they wrote really compelling villains and supporting cast, good enough to carry a series on its own?
Wouldn't that negate the need for a character arc?
Guys?
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>>80937769
They had an episode about this. 1) Killgrave was still torturing people while supposedly being a "hero," and 2) it's not someone's job to be a walking conscience to a murderer who can supposedly do great good.
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>>80938179
Same with Always Frank in Philadelphia
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The gratuitous sex. I am an adult if I wanted to see sex I would watch porn. I can understand it in old movies and tv shows where it is risque to have it but I can look at people fucking anytime I like and it just cheapens it.
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>>80938267
>2) it's not someone's job to be a walking conscience to a murderer who can supposedly do great good

If it were anyone else I'd agree, but Jessica has literally nothing better to do.
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>>80937660
I can't for the life of me understand 4chan's obsession with interracial sex.
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>>80938526
Over in /tinfoilhat/ they think third parties are spamming BLACKED threads to turn us against interracial.
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>>80936344
Because it isn't Tall Slut, No Panties.
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>>80939041
>>80938811
>>80938779
Even if they weren't fucking blacks they still wouldn't be fucking you
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I like it.
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>>80939329
Is that honestly why you think people dislike it? I just don't want to see ugly people in porn.
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Godawful pacing and a plot that could/should have been wrapped up in about half the time, mainly.

I also fucking hated the main character in a "I really don't care what happens to her" kind of way, which dampened my interest in the series.
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>>80937852
Luke was right to freak out that she had sex with him after she knew she killed the love of his life. That was pretty messed up, but then Jessica's entire season was largely based around people not making the best of life choices.

>>80938526
FWIW I find it kind of funny how recent studies show that humans who left Africa have a percentage of Neanderthal and/or Denisovan genes, so technically the groups that stayed in Africa are purer Homo Sapien.

Which ultimately doesn't really matter a damn. The more important lesson to gain is that it is true humanity has a biological Captain Kirk Imperative to explore new lands, seek out new life and new civilizations, and make sweet tender love to them. You'd think 4chan would be all for that. Or at least our natural instinct for Delicious Brown would override whatever /pol/ influence there is in these threads.
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>>80939517
Out of Africa is a theory not a fact you dumb fuck.
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>>80939407
The plot could have been but wouldn't have been. Purple Man set it up that way. It's why his triumphant return into her life involved recreating what he did to her with Hope. Jessica did all this to try to save someone who was in her exact same situation. Hope was quite literally her hope. It dragged out everything, kept her from killing Purple Man so many times. It couldn't be a coincidence, he knew exactly how to push Jessica's buttons. Even when you aren't under his power he knows how to manipulate people.

Even Hope knew this in the end so she took herself out of the equation by committing suicide, finally freeing Jessica to do what she had to do.

Honestly what pissed me off is you'd have people like the freak sister and those other douches who got Hope into that fucked up no-win situation and they never once owned up to how much they screwed it up and it was their fault that young woman died.
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>>80939402
but porn never uses attractive men. no matter what race the actor is, they're always mildly retarded looking and incapable of conveying any desirability.
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>>80939517

Relevant.
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>>80938239
Does JJ have any more compelling villains to drive her series? Okay DD season 2 was driven more by Frank and his anti-heroic crusade for most of the season. The Nobu ninja stuff was mostly at the end and Elektra proved a distraction to DD more than anything else.

Whether she gets a new main villain or not honestly I wished the JJ had a bit more actual detective work. She was less an actual detective and mostly using scam tactics. Not that those two are mutually exclusive. Anyway since her practice was picking up at the end, whether she wanted it or not, maybe they will next season.

>>80939647
Science isn't concerned with facts. If you seek truth, take a philosophy course.

Enough with the off-topic bait.
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>>80936344
The Hope Schlottman arc, which was the main storyline, had no payoff. Seriously, she just kills herself after she's released from jail?

Then there's the lesbian divorce arc. So boring, so bland. And how is Trinity's GF guilty for murder? When you kill someone to prevent that person deliberately killing a defenseless person, I'm pretty sure that's legal.

Also, I know it's more plausible, but Kilgrave should have been a recurring villain rather than some guy you killed off. Personally, I feel that he has the most interesting powers in the show.

I did grow to like JJ. As whiny and annoyingly dumb as she is, she's a perfect example that not every metahuman is meant for superhero work.

Luke Cage is also pretty boring. I know that it wouldn't work in the 2010's, but from what little I've seen on /co/, I like his Blaxploitation character better than just Mack with invincibility.

Trish was really hot, though, to me, she's the second-cutest chick following Simmons from AoS.

I also like your supporting cast. Malcolm, Trish, Simpson, hell, even Robin all grew on me.

All in all, not as good as Daredevil Season 1, but decent.
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>>80939804
any street level supercrook, crime lord, or corrupt businessman could be repurposed as a JJ villain
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Everyone I know likes it. It just wasn't as good as Daredevil is all. I also think it doesnt need more seasons. It should be replaced with a Moon Knight or Blade series.
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>>80939402
they hire specifically for dick size and fuck ability. They aren't commercials n sheit
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>>80936344

Nuke was 100% right about killing the purple guy but he was made out to be a villain for some reason.
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Jess and Trish are unlikeable bitches and are both dumb as hell, but this is excused because Strong Independent Female.
Krysten Ritter looks like she's never thrown a punch in her entire life.
Everyone is damn boring.
Lesbian Carrie Anne Moss' affair was boring.
Killgrave support group was dumb and boring.
What few fight scenes there are absolutely suck. Seriously cringeworthy.
Pacing was off and Killgrave escaping all the time was annoying, but killing him off was worse because he was the most compelling part of the show.
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>>80936344
It was good, but not great. It really missed the point of the character and transformed her into something unoriginal and ultimately boring.

I hope they do more investigative stuff, like the MGH plot, but who knows. 7/10.
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>>80936344
Because
>/pol/ -comics and cartoons


Other than that, JJ was as equivalently flawed and successful as any other show.

I liked it, though the genre practically changed halfway through.

It also gave us the MCU "totally not Weapons Plus".
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>>80936344
You could have been a really solid six episode series.
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>>80939989
>Trish are unlikeable bitches and are both dumb as hell
I hate you.
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>Luke Cage trailer
>Luke Cage is shown
>Rap music
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>>80940198
would you have preffered country?
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>>80940189
I am nourished by your hatred so that's fine. But why?
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>>80940198
Dude is based off old blaxploitation movies. Were you expecting polka music?
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>>80940226
I want that black Trump supporter to play Luke Cage. New direction for the character.
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>>80939907
That's true. Oh hell, I actually forgot. There's the whole mystery of where her powers game from. That secret program that was enhancing people, plus you know Nuke will be back.
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>>80940260
No, I would have preferred blaxploitation music.
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NUKE WAS RIGHT
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>>80940304

>Black Trump supporter punching out liberal protestor carrying a sign labeled KKK while another liberal protestor right behind him is wearing a KKK pointed hood.

It's a strange world we're living in.
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>>80939997
>something unoriginal and ultimately boring.
Jessica Jones is, factually and intentionally, a bootleg Jessica Drew
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>>80940400
At least Frank liked his music old school.
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>>80936378
How's this:

She's now working private investigator full time. She's stopped drinking. A bunch of different, seemingly unrelated clients ask her to retrieve some lost piece of personal heirloom that's been stolen. All contracts have a main suspect, they just can't find them.

She goes around investigating and finds the stolen stuff and retrieves it to her clients. All her clients seem very standoff-ish, like they are feeding her bullshit and sending her on wild goose chases and suspicious runs, but all the targets are crooks, so it doesn't make much sense for regular people to be fucking with her. She starts to get paranoid.

At some point one of the first clients shows up again with a new, completely unrelated case for her to solve, but she doesn't want to because she thinks he's fucking with her. He claims not to know what she's talking about even after she beats the shit out of him, sending him through a window out of frustration. She occasionally starts seeing different clients/robbers/people around her she already knew acting completely different and like they never saw her before. The jobs become weirder and start including stuff that obviously don't belong to the clients, so she stops doing them and clients stop showing up as much.

She gets suspicious and starts chasing the former clients and interrogating them, but none of them knows her or what she's talking about. She begins to break down and get paranoid about Kilgrave having come back. The whole season has that uneasy feeling that someone is fucking with her on purpose, like the first chapters of Alias. Pieces of the puzzle don't match without memory wipe/mind control. She visits the grave of, well, Kilgrave, and it's untouched. The paranoia starts getting to her and she becomes restless and aggressive and almost begins drinking again. She eventually doubts it and digs the grave only to find a skeleton wearing a decomposing black suit, with a purple tie. It's neck is broken.
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>>80939981
That's not why he was the villain. He was a villain because he went apeshit and started murdering people left and right.

Very unFrank.
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>>80936344
It didn't have the authentic emotional nuance of the flash and arrow.

YEAH
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>>80940526
(cont)

And after whatever climactic revelation to be decided she starts putting clues together about the missing heirloom from the early cases, and somehow tracks it down to the residence of one guy:

Dmitri Smerdyakov, the chameleon. He came across one of those masks from TWS. It is broken/he doesn't know how to fully use it, so he needs to use someone's face from close to Jessica's block because it times out after a while. With some preparation and good acting he can create his characters without being recognized.

Turns out, he never meant to fuck with Jessica in particular. He just wanted a decent PI to find stuff that he knew a bunch of his old crooked friends had, but he couldn't find. After robbing all his former associates and seeing Jessica throw that one repeated dude out the window, he found out she had powers and started asking her for different, riskier stuff. She was basically robbing for him. Turns out, it wasn't about Jessica at all, she was just the first decent PI that Dmitri found and he just took it from there. The fact that she wasn't being targeted serves as an eye-opener and gives her the self-confidence she needs to stop thinking she's the center of the universe always being the victim on purpose.

Mix it up with some Hellcat B-story and there you go.
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>>80939900
>The Hope Schlottman arc, which was the main storyline, had no payoff. Seriously, she just kills herself after she's released from jail?
That was the point. See >>80939652
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>>80940526
>She's now working private investigator full time. She's stopped drinking.

I will cut you
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>>80940581
Fine, she keeps drinking throughout. Helps the story, in hindsight.
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>>80940198

>Harlem level
>african beats start playing
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>>80940567
Oh shit
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>>80940567
>>80940526
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>>80940642
>>80940630
The trick is to keep using a mystery/slow psychologic thriller of the first season. If they go with just a detective show, they've fucked up.
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>>80940567
10/10 would watch.
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>>80940567
>>80940526

Unfortunately I see this falling into a similar trap as the first season: this story would probably work better as a nine episode series and would need some serious padding to hit thirteen.
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>>80938061
Actually teaching empathy to an emotionally disturbed adult who has gone their life without a moral compass that has been established by society is nearly impossible. Typically the only thing you can do is instill in them an understanding of the consequences of their actions 'rape this person, get arrested etc'. But having a drunk, emotionally damaged, private dick with no social skills and poor impulse control instill empathy in a psychopath narcissist who can control peoples actions with a word is fucking ludicrous.

It blows me away people are honestly like 'why didn't she just turn him to a force for good'. Really? like yeah its that fucking easy. Just give up ones own life, freedom, autonomy and aspirations so you can spend the rest of your days babysitting a mind controlling rapist inhuman monster in the off chance you can eventually make him stop doing horrible things to people.
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>>80939981

He was right when he wanted to kill the purple man from the start. The most right of anyone really, purple man was a dangerous psychopath who was completely immune from normal law enforcement.

He a villain as soon as he killed old black "2 years from retirement" cop who probably had a name.
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>>80940256
Pathetically acting like Hellcat wasn't best character.
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>>80940730
>mystery/slow psychologic thriller of the first season
>Mysterio for S2 villain?
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>>80940824
Leave mysterio for spiderman, dude. I went out of my way to find a simple enough to do villain in a tv budget.
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>>80940824

Mysterio is too good for Jessica Jones, I want him to be in the Spider-Man movie.
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>>80940824
>IMplying Jessica Jones would have the budget for the fabulous Mysterio we deserve
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>>80940824
No, Mysterio deserves better than Jessica Jones.
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>The Kilgrave show featuring Jessica Jones minus Kilgrave

no thanks bruhs
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>>80936378
>He doesn't want JJ season 2 where Foggy is a main cast member.
>JJ is always moody and depressing
>Foggy is the literal opossite, joking around and being a bro in general
>together they work for Hogarth and solve cases

It writes itself
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>>80936344

Because your bullshit was like watching live-action Korra: boring, trite, poorly written, with a monumentally stupid protag that never learns shit until it's too late even while everyone around her tells her how not to fuck up. Also, not nearly as much focus on the actual interesting characters in the show, like Luke.

At least Korra had a bunch of characters in it that I wanted to fuck.
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>>80941076
Sounds like a sitcom.
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>>80936344
Single focused main storyline the entire time who kills the best thing about the show. 6/10

Daredevil S1 did a better job balancing a main story and sub plots.

Daredevil S2 blows away much of S1, despite needing to improve on how to frame some of the action scenes.

Luke Cage should be fun because it's from the man behind Almost Human.
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>>80941086
>Bitches talk too much, give me my thick hard chocolate husbando!
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>>80941086
>not nearly as much focus on the actual interesting characters in the show, like Luke.
I honestly found the actor kind of boring. He does the cool Luke well, but the mad Luke not so much.
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>>80937806
Frank.
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>>80941086
You know Luke is getting his own show very soon, right?
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>>80937368
>>80937619
>there are people that are this retarded

How the fuck can you root for a faggot who went around killing, abusing and raping people for his own simple pleasures? There's nothing sympathetic about him especially when you find out the truth about what his parents were doing. You guys seriously can't be this retarded.
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>>80941751
>How the fuck can you root for a faggot who went around killing, abusing and raping people for his own simple pleasures?

Edgelords, anon. Edgelords.
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>>80938441
Hey now! She's got tons of cheating spouses to expose for money!
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Because it's one of the worst pieces of television I've seen all year.
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>>80936344
It was boring. But hey Daredevil and AoS are boring as fuck too. I just watch them because I'm a capefag that wants to support live action adaptions of comic characters and they do have brief moments of amazing stuff. Like episode 8 of AKA when she tries to work with Kilgrave. It was so weird and challenged her in a way that made me think of what the fuck would I do if I was in that situation?
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>>80941429

And Jessica Jones isn't getting a second season.

What does that tell you?
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>>80937660
Damn, I wish I was fucking her.
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>>80937613
Pretty much this.
>>80937741
His character wasn't imposing either. He was a complete bitch.
>charm
He had no charm at all. He was a boring manchild faggot.
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>>80942056
>He was a boring manchild faggot.
Oh, so that's why you didn't like him.
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>>80936378
Something like....Patsy Walker AKA Hellcat Season 1 featuring Jessica Jones?
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>>80942092
Kind of hard to like a villain who the show tells you is scary, yet extremely pathetic. Not even pathetic in a terrifying way, like Trinity from Dexter. Just simply pathetic.
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>>80942166
His powers are scary on their own. The weirder the dude is even worse.
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>>80936344
Her super strength was inconsistent

She could throw guys and catch punches from dudes twice her size but then she'd be tackled or knocked out by some old bitch.

Trying to tackle someone stronger than you is pretty hard to do. It should be pretty impossible when someone is like 4x stronger than you. Her bones should be tougher too to support her strengthend muscles and tendons so knocking her out would have to take some effort.

Also that shit with Simpson/Nuke was fucking terrible. Annoying character, annoying actor and he does some heinous shit to more likable characters later on.

I know they're setting up for the Defenders so we can see DD and Luke and the others taking on IGH as a drug by the Yakuza or Owl like MGH was in Bendis DD run but the storyline felt random as fuck
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>>80942203
>muh powers
Powers are never scary on their own. They're as scary as their owner. Which in Kilgrave's case is not at all because he's a bitch with a shitty "wahh I had hard childhood so I'm a cunt" backstory.

Seriously, I hate how /co/ overrates this shitty villain.
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>>80941898
That jessica jones was received well.
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>>80942311
>Seriously, I hate how /co/ overrates this shitty villain.
yeah but thats just because you're a fag. i mean opinions on the character aside if you honestly have that much of a problem with others liking something you don't like...it's because you're a fag.
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>>80942343

Not well enough to get a second season.
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Because Hannibal already did everything Jessica Jones set out to do (minus hamfisted feminist undertones) and did it better.
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>>80942311
Mind control is a pretty scary prospect dude.
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>>80942397
No clearly it was. because they okayed a second season. You or some other people you know or on /co/ clearly do not represent the majority because if almost noone liked it, they wouldn't bother making another season.
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>>80941076
>>80941135

2 Broke Girls - starring JJ and Foggy
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I know it's sacrilegious to say this on /co/, but rewatching DD and JJ S1 in anticipation for DD S2 I ended up enjoying Jones more then Daredevil. I just liked the character stuff in Jones more, and the fact that is was so focused on the people rather then plot made me able to forgive the slow pace easier.

And the screaming over the feminist undertones was full-on retarded. Apparently Daredevil dealing with so many masculine-focused plotlines was just fine, but heaven forbid a show starring a woman deal with female issues or say anything at all.
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>>80942430
So is the ability to make someone powerless in their sleep then kill them. Even more so than mind-control.
Didn't stop Freddy Krueger from becoming a joke of a villain.
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>>80942397
Herp derp

https://www.instagram.com/p/BApbHKHo3pa/
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>>80942467
I forgot what thread I was in for a second and thought you meant J Jonah Jameson.
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>>80942471
Honestly I liked JJ more than DD the first time I watched them. No idea why DD gets so much praise here. The show felt really tight with the first episode but then the whole autsitic Kingpin and those stupid Russian brothers and all that garbage with Karen and what they did with Ben and the lame fights really brought it down.
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>>80942405
hannibal just replaced the feminist undertones with gay overtones
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>>80942387
You know, when all you see is "OMG BEST VILLAIN EVER SAVED THE SHOW" everywhere for a character you find very boring, you'd start hating it too.
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>>80942491
>J Jonah Jameson and Senor Foggy as 2 Broke Girls
absolutely incredible
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>>80942484
someone who always kills their victims isn't very scary
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>>80936344
Kinda-sorta fugly.
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>>80942610
Only if you're a contrarian faggot. In which case, try 23 boards to the right.
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>>80942657
Neither is someone who mind-controls people.
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>>80942471
But dude heres the deal. Whent he white guy punches bad guys and his muscles are all bulging and everyones getting punched thats cool and not designed to appeal to anyone in particular. Certainly not me as a guy who has read comics about white guys punching bad guys with their big muscles for my entire fucking life.

But when Jessica Jones does things about women its obviously PANDERING. Why would they do things that arent pande....errr i mean why wouldnt they just do normal things that I just HAPPEN to enjoy. I mean we have only 2 seasons of daredevil, 2 captain america movies (soon to be 3) 3 iron man movies, and 2 thor movies. i'm honestly fucking tired of it having to all be about women these days by having two avengers movies feature sometimes more than just one woman and jessica jones getting a second season instead of cancelling her and just having another guy focused series and the other three guy focused series.

and if they have to have a Jessica jones series why does she have to be the main character. Why can't she just wear a skimpy outfit while we cut to the super muscles of luke cage. But nope can't do things so they fit my personal desires....gotta pander to women. Fucking MCU is ruined.
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>>80942610
no I wouldn't. when LoK s1 was airing everyone was praising Amon to high heaven, but he did nothing for me. I just dealt with it and went back to cabbage posting
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>>80942666
>LE CONTRARIAN
Worst meme ever.
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>>80942536
Yeah but JJ sucked. It starts off nice but then the whole whiny Purple man, and that stupid nuke cop and all that garbage with Trish walker and what they did to Luke cage, and the lame detective investigations really brought it down.
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>>80942696
Does Marvel even have any female characters they can use? You have Widow and Jones. Patsy isn't even a superhero in this universe. The bitches in AoS who are never going to be in anything outside of that.

All the X-men chicks are at Fox, F4 as well. Spidey is kinda jointly shared. So basically they just have She-Hulk and Ms. Marvel and Captain Marvel right?
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>>80942610
Nah i'm okay with others liking things I do not and going on about why they like it. I actually appreciate the enjoyment people have for any kind of story. I'm not some mewling faggot who honestly gets ass-red because others dare to like a thing I don't like in large numbers. That just sounds pathetic.
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>>80942594
Small price to pay for everything else being better.
>tfw despite being more action-oriented series Jessica Jones never had an action scene as good as this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I5yFjdfVX0
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>>80942750
Yeah I can see that. It just wasn't as brought down as much. Maybe because the show's later episodes are far more interesting than the earlier ones which was the opposite for DD to me.
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>>80942686
being forced to do fucked up things and then having to live with it is plenty scary
there is a man out there in MCU who ripped his own dick off and sodomised himself with it, and never understood why
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>>80942769
Even with cosmic characters I can't think of anyone else, that's not a D-Lister or part of a team.
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>>80942536

Rewatching S1 the biggest issue is they basically get to a point where the "third act" should start(Matt discovering Leland's identity from the Russian gangster) and then the show takes a 3-4 episode break to play around with ninjas and Scott Glenn just so they can drag the story out to 13 episodes. Now I'm not going to sit here and say that DD fighting ninjas wasn't awesome, but it was still empty padding. Jessica Jones had padding too, but the fact that it was more character interaction and development then just punching.

I dunno, I liked all the rape survivor undertones, it was an interesting place to take the characters and the fact that they explored different versions of it with the cast. They had a thematic concept and actually utilized it instead of just paying lip service to it, and I like it when people use these comic characters to explore deeper ideas then just "I like punching shit." The Nuke plotline wasn't handled great and the incest twins made me want to shove hot spikes in my eyes, but those were the only real issues I had with it.

I'm sure this makes me part of the SJW cuck agenda though, because liking something feminist makes me feminist just like me enjoying masculine action movies makes me a pro-gun conservative. You can't ever enjoy anything out of your personal wheelhouse, that's clearly literally impossible.

>>80942696

Breddy gud, anon.
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>>80942807
Not really. Not scarier than dying while being completely powerless.
Again, powers are not scary. They're only as scary as the character who has them.
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>>80942397
They announced a second season less than a week after it premiered where the fuck you been
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>you will NEVER be a moderatly attractive white female getting railed by a strong black man

why live

whats there to live for
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>>80942769
Elsa Bloodstone who would make for a fantastic series/movie to help build up the supernatural side of things.

Monica Rambeau can be a series as well and they'd have their own buddy team up eventually. They're both good characters to expand outside of Hells Kitchen and NY considering their origins

Hopefully Colleen Wing and Misty Knight have far more energy and charisma than all the other MCU tv show characters. That could be a straight up action sock'em series that breaks the bank like the old tv show Fastlane did to Fox (did some really good camera work on that show)
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>>80936344
Your supporting cast is fucking annoying and serve no purpose.
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>>80942993
>this feel
I know it all too well.

I just wanna be a solid 7 white bitch who gets showered with attention and sex from stereotypical black guys. Why is life so unfair?
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>>80942769
nah there are a few
>dagger of cloak and dagger (WHICH I WANT)
>spider-woman (might need a name change or work something out with sony)
>Elsa bloodstone (which i want as much as cloak and dagger. fucking modern nightstalkers with guest appearances by blade and ghost rider)
>Tigra
>Valkyrie
>she hulk which you mentioned
>the characters in runaways (obviously a team show)
>moonstone (if your doing a thunderbolts related thing)
>crystal
>agent brand
>songbird
>colleen wing (if you spin off misty knight from luke cage into a daughters of dragon show STARRING FUCKING SHANG CHI oh god i want this now)
>......................squirrel girl i guess

but yeah id actually like to see a few of those character get some live action spotlight but wow mentioning them all together it kinda blows me away how little so many of them are utilized.
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>>80938016
Bendis :DD :D :DDDDD
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>>80936344
The only people who hate it are people who see a woman and automatically assume it's sjw shit. They're almost as bad as sjws themselves.
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>>80940490
>tfw it hits you where they might take stories to give JJ
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>>80943072
Here's your (you)
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>>80943053
Yeah a lot of comic wirters just stick with the old guard of Spidey, Iron Man, Cap,etc,etc

To be fair a lot of new books never really sell so I guess it's whatever
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>>80943098
>To be fair a lot of new books never really sell so I guess it's whatever
The thing is its kind of a shit cycle.

>people hate when characters are changed to female or minority
>why dont they just make new characters or focus on lesser known ones in their own ongoing?
>original the character sells like shit and gets cancelled
>well that was because it sucked

Well shit apparently as far as I know everything sucks (because people sure as shit dont seem to enjoy avengers, iron man, spider-man, or x-men comics) but the only things that moderately sell is the same old shit. So clearly the guys who take preexisting popular characters and gender or race swap em know what theyre fucking doing cos those characters books are the only ones that ever fucking sell.
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>>80943053
when you think about it, if JJ is already a success, what stops them from giving her other lesser heroes villains?
Like, its a very long shot to see Z-list spidey enemies on the movies, why not just give them to JJ for more seasons? Something like Agents of S.H.I.T.
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>>80942907
>>80942471
Oh, fuck off, Vash. I know you're a tasteless self-righteous faggot so not much intelligence is expected from you, but shut up. Don't even pretend the show wasn't an obnoxiously unsubtle, dumb feminist soapboxing.

>Daredevil dealing with so many masculine-focused plotlines
I love how it's white knights who always the bigger sexists than those they condermn.
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>>80936344
We never saw any armpit hair or someone commenting on how bad you smell.
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>>80936344
All those scenes of semi-attractive women getting fucked and not a single tit shot.

Shame on you.
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I don't, I really enjoyed it!
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>>80942956
dying isn't scary because its zero sum. there's nothing, good or bad, after that
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As an aside, did Luke Cage really do anything the entire season? I can't remember a single thing other than him being a sex object or fucking damsel for Jessica.
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>>80943644
He found out about his wife and called her a piece of shit
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>>80943644
The bar fight scene was short but kinda hilarious.
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>>80937499
This scene bugged me. WTF did he need the gattling gun for? All he was doing was burning down his old house.
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>>80936344
Yes. It was awful and so was she.
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>>80943644
He gave the main character something that grounded her, humanized her a bit, give her a reason for her guilt while simultaneously adding a little mystery with why she was photographing him, while also setting him up for his own show.
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>>80943644
Yeah, he helped Jessica out, even though he was being controlled. He also found the truth about his wife, which is why he was in HK in the first place.

Now to Harlem.
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>>80943637
>dying isn't scary
Spoken like an idiot, true edgelord or someone disconnected from reality.

You can get over doing terrible shit.

You can't get over an omnipotent sadist making you his toy by turning what remains of your life into pure hell, then discarding you like trash for your loved ones to find.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waiA1uSgK3w
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>>80943637
whoa there. You might want to have a bunch more philosophy lessons after the first before opening your mouth to spout shit.
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>>80937337
Wasn't that Nukes plan too tho?
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>>80936344
Because the fedora-tipping neckbeards on this board can't handle
>muh SJW
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>>80938526
The majority of 4chan does not have sex, hell most of em has NEVER had sex and probably NEVER will. Its not just a meme, its reality. Were talking about groups of young men who are absolutely convinced that feet are an erogenous zone and that women piss huge rivers of fluid when they orgasm because they saw it in a porn somewhere.
Sexually frustrated and insecure does not even begin to cover the scope of the average 4channer.
Now show them a fantasy world, call it reality where a black man, who they are absolutely convinced that they should be better than in almost every way, not only gets laid on average far more. But is also far better in bed than they will ever hope to be.
It just twist the knife a bit more. Kicks them while they are down. An they do it to each other, because they hate each other as much as they hate themselves.

>Niggers are getting more and are better at it than you, booga booga. Also your penis is small, mwhahahahah! anything under 7 inches is a micropenis and you are a manlet for being only 5'11.

After a while you post shit like this because you know you are driving some angsty teenager out there up the fucking wall, no other reason.
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>>80940198
Why does no one aim for his eyes
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>>80943946
that's the think. you don't need to get over it because you're dead. it's not your problem anymore
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>>80937742
He carried the show honestly.
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>>80944211
Holy shit, you're retarded.
Or just trolling. Either way, fuck off.
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>>80944141
>you are a manlet for being only 5'11.
But that's true. Anything below 6'5 is a manlet.
>b-but muh Arnold Scwharzenegger
Overrated. Not that muscular. Not that badass.
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>>80944141
>that feel when you've only had sex once

It wasn't as good as I thought it would be :s
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>>80944160
Yeah why dont these guys who have no idea why their bullets arent doing anything in the few seconds they are emptying their weapons just aim at the tiny fucking eyes on the guy.
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>>80944406
Try doing it more than once than. Treat it like a test, study up with appropriate reading material, not videos.
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>>80944406
nope. the deep dark secret of the internet is that an orgasm from sex is not fundamentally different in sensation from an orgasm from masturbating.

and then some people can't deal with this, assume something must have gone wrong. they didn't do enough kegels, the girl was too loose or too tight, whatever, it'll be better next time. maybe next time. okay, the time after that for sure. becoming obsessed with finding the holy grail that is 'sex as good as I thought it would be'.
the average person has 7-10 sexual partners in their life and the irony is that a sizable chunk of those who have more are dissapointed with it every time and aren't even enjoying themselves.
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Because it sucked Jess.
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>>80943644
>did Luke Cage really do anything the entire season?

Jessica.
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>>80944670
>everything you've ever known is a lie and life is just a series of dissapointments from the cradle to the grave
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>>80937038
TAKE THAT DOCTOR WHO!!!!!!!
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It was a pretty good trailer for the Luke Cage series
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>>80937038
I really wish she beat him to death.
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>>80937038
That necksnap is even more awful in slow-motion.
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I could never hate Jessica Jones season 1 for one simple reason.

As much as i liked other shit, it could have all been crap and I still would love what it did with Killgrave. Specifically all the people at SJW sites like the mary sue dealing with being all about David Tennant being a horrifying monstrous mind controlling rapist. And reconciling liking him because its Doctor Who despite abhoring most men who aren't perfect.
He was as they say the ultimate 'problematic fav'.
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>>80946427
I liked that to the best of her ability, she just shut up and solved her own problems without complaining or refusing help in the end.

Also stuff like Trish getting stopped immediately, Hogarth getting her shit cut for being a manipulative cunt and Jessica having to have the person she's trying to save commit suicide so she could see that she wasn't doing anyone any favors but her own sense of integrity.

Is this what, 4th wave feminism? Which is the recreationally offended one?
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>>80936344
Too few likable characters. Almost no one is fun to spend time with.
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>>80946830
I loved spending time with everyone though. mostly because of how fucking dislikeable they all were. I mean hogarth was the most horrible cunt in the universe and I loved every second she was on screen.
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>>80946031
She needed to make it fast enough that he couldn't order his thralls to do anything else.
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>>80946830
The problem is not that they're unlikable. The problem is that they're all boring.
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>>80946856
I haven't finished Jessica Jones yet. The last thing I saw was JJ taking Kilgrave from her childhood home, neighbour lady blew up a bomb

Comparing it directly to its counterpart show, DareDevil has plenty of likable characters. I love spending time at the offices of Nelson and Murdock, watching drama unfold in the courthouse, watching flashy fight scenes unfold in dark corridors.
Almost every character puts the work in to draw me into their world. I haven't finished season two yet Frank is escaping with Karen somewhere and The Hand are attacking the hospital
But the DD stories are just so much better.
Watching assholes be genuinely terrible to each other just isn't as compelling to me. Maybe it's too real world for my small town white kid sensibilities but I just can't connect with it.

That and it just suffers from tons of female author callsigns.
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>>80936344
Faggots hated this show. I enjoyed it.
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>>80936344
I haven't seen the show, but I hate your face.
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>>80936430
>>80936675
Spooky scary skeletons...
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>Snarky alcoholic PI trope
>Trying to be edgy with graphic sex scenes
>Dr.Who as the villain
>Slow pacing

I just couldn't stick with it.
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>>80936844
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>>80947104
>watching drama unfold in the courthouse
I can't remember how I felt about the court scenes in S1 but something about the court scenes in S2 felt weirdly cringey for me
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>>80948464
They should've picked the guy who plays Dennis on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
He had experience with playing sociopaths and is far more charismatic than Tennant.
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>>80948464
KEK, sex is "edgy" now. You fucking autists i swear
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>>80948537
Putting an anal scene in the first episode is pretty tryhard edgy.
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>>80948565
There was no anal scene in any of the episodes. I was actually disappointed since it was a scene in the comic.
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>>80948565
how so?
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>>80948581
yeah there is. Luke cage fucks her in the ass.
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>>80948585
Sexy is "edgy" violence though is a-ok though! WESTERN VALUES!
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>>80948602
Unless you have a deleted scene for me to watch, no he doesn't that was in the comics though.
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>>80948604
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>>80948604
Exactly. I don't think ive heard anyone call Daredevil Edgy for having dudes shot in the throat and head in the first episode of season 2. And a guy beaten to a pulp after trying to transport women into sex slavery, tazing one of them in season 1's first episode.

I don't think i've ever heard of someone calling those first episodes 'edgy'.
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>>80948651
You've never been in Daredevil threads during the first season then.
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>>80939900
Think about what it looks like to the cops.

This lady and her girlfriend go to the house of a woman the lady is in a nasty divorce with. There are clear signs of a struggle around the house, and everybody alive admits the woman died when the girlfriend hit her and killed her.

Now, there were some wounds on the lady, sure. But maybe she got them WHEN HER EX DEFENDED HERSELF. You know, from these two people who showed up to murder her.

The implausible part of this wasn't that one of them was arrested. It's that both of them weren't cause this is fucking suspicious shit.
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>>80948879
Don't forget if they look at her computer they will see that she apparently had some blackmail material she was holding over her ex. That she sent out to her ex days before she died.

Yeah both of them should be in jail awaiting trial.
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>>80946865
True. But it's hard to make people do things when you're unconscious
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>>80948604

Of course in superhero media you're going to see violence. Violence has purpose; when is the last time sex moved a story forward? We need to see Batman fight the Joker, we don't need to see Batman hump Miranda Tate while she moans and screams "fuck me Bruce!"
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>>80938526

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6f9_1431521310
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>>80949059
It humanizes the characters and can further show how much they care for each other and their relationship. It can also show negative traits about a character.

But I agree sex scenes usually bore me as well since I only want to see people fuck when I'm getting cuccked or just regular fapping
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>>80937092
>>80937203
>>80937901
>>80937947
>>80938000
>>80938016
>>80938099
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>>80937742
>David Tenant depicting a legit psychopath who could recognize and emulate normal human behavior but never understand it

So he's just the Doctor again?
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>>80936344
I don't like rape stories
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>implying I don't love tall slut no panties with all my heart
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>>80944670
anon ... I
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>>80936344
Its degeneracy
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>>80949303
nah. Tennant's Doctor was one of the most human doctors ever. He never had any major 'does not compute' moments just 'I've genocided multiple races for 'the greater good' don't test me'
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>>80949164

>It humanizes the characters and can further show how much they care for each other and their relationship.

Fair enough, but couldn't kisses, hugs, holding hands, etc. accomplish that? I don't mind sex, but just like violence doesn't need to be bullet to the head, gory, fetish junk, sex doesn't need to be soft core porn. There seems to be very few lovemaking scenes compared to animalistic humping.
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>>80936344
I'm not hating the show, anon.
It just Jessica Jones didn't naked enough for me to see her naughty bits.
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>>80939804
JJ is frankly a really shit comic that only got picked up for a show because she has a vagina and somebody raped it.
If JJ was identical except it was James Jones then nobody would give a shit and Netflix would've never wasted a show on it.
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>>80939804
Green Goblin if Pulse is anything to go by.
Marvel won't have the balls to use on of their most iconic villains as fodder for a Netflix show. Which is a shame, because I'd love to see Netflix Norman.
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>>80936430

Gross
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>>80936344
>/co/ is one individual

I didn't. I liked the show.
Like Daredevil, good for a solid bit of binge-watching.
Can't wait for Luke Cage and Iron Fist.
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>>80938117
>Why is Tall Slut No Panties such a slut?
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>>80936344
I liked the story.
I didn't like the sex scenes.
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>>80936430
she's a skelly larkin love
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>>80938526
It's just people having sex - you're the one who's obsessed.
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>>80936344
You were better on heroin
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>>80944141
HA! This, so much this.
The poor, desperate angry haters who just hate each other and themselves really do set the tone on 4chan.
Shrinks would have a field day here.
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>>80937765
Oh right, thats what triggered it.

With everyone dead who killed his family, he is dead. The news paper acticle is the last nail in the coffin to bury Frank Castle.
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>>80936344

Because there is an entire library of Marvel Comics characters more deserving of a show than you.
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>>80951542
>fictional characters
>deserving anything
>>/2chan/
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>>80936378
Pretty much this.

She's not a very compelling character. We've probably seen the most interesting story she could ever have. She has no real desire to be a superhero anyway. Watching her be forced to do heroic things while having an attitude is tedious.
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>>80937769
That's the problem in the comics - how the hell can one fear for the world endangered by Hand's mystical shit, Killgrave and so on when you have Thors, Sentries, Dr Stranges and Dooms and others of such paygrade running around? Doom already resisted Killgrave with sheer willpower, Sentry mindraped half of the solar system, Phoenix-powered Emma Stone couldn't enter Thor's mind and don't make me mention Moondragon vs Stephen.

I think it's good that netflix-mcu stays away from mcu, despite the inevitable nerfing of the big guns it would still be off-putting.
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>>80939989
It's true. All of it.
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When will Jessica and Matt meet?
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>>80951783
I'd prefer JJ meet Matt AND Stick and the old man calling her out for the bullshit-filled good for nothing bitch she is.
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>>80948382
fat fuck detected. Go be somewhere else you landwhale.
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>>80937769
Use him for good? What for?

Jessica isn't into controlling people like Kilgrave is. She wouldn't want to try to use him for her own ideals. She's just trying to stop a maniac from doing more harm.

There is no redeemable quality to Kilgrave. I thought the show went pretty far in showing that he is too far gone to be saved.

He's a criminal, rapist, serial killer, sadist, what have you. He has no morals and enjoys inflicting pain on other people. People like that are pretty much immune to saving.
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>>80951783
Matt will be hunting some villain and meet JJ investigating the villain for one of her clients who was a victim.
JJ will tell Matt to fuck off and surprise kick his shit because Matt let's his guard down.
The next meeting will have them both stalking some bad dudes and JJ will fuck something up and get them both unknowingly exposed so they'll have to fight together while the villain gets away.
Matt will kick JJs ass this time and she'll start crying and playing the pity card.

She'll go back home and get drunk in pity while Matt does something of value and tracks the villain again.
By the time Matt finds the dude, JJ will have shown up again and fuck things up a 3rd time and this time some innocent person will die from her fuck ups.
Matt will get pissed and try to fight her and be mostly winning but JJ will pull some lucky/cheap move and knock Matt out.
Then she'll go and finally kill the villain like she should've in the first place and a couple more innocents will die along the way.

The entire time, JJ will be feeling sorry for herself and blaming her and everyone for everything wrong while looking like she's slept in her own piss the last 3 nights consistently.
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>>80937660
lmao the only thing wrong with these scenes is that there wasn't enough nude or even semi-nude ritter. We stare at her ass for half the show, where's my butt shot?

But then this show is targeted slightly more towards women, so it makes sense that the emphasis is on Luke. Still though. Ritter has that perfect pixie chick ass. It's big enough for her body type.

In conclusion:

I want to tongue punch her fart box.
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>>80951783
I don't think that'd work at all. Daredevil is all noire crime and brutal fights, where the fantastical elements are extremely toned down and often merely hinted at. JJ meanwhile has legit super-powers, the entire first season was about a villain with super-powers and the fact that gifted/enhanced/meta-human people exist out in the open is brought up at several times.

The way the two shows are written just doesn't fit together. Either Daredevil would go full-capeshit or Jessica Jones would end up having to use her super-strength at every turn to fight off ninjas.
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I don't. It's a lot easier to get through then Daredevil S1.

Could I watch S2 without watching S1 first?
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>>80937660
>>80937681
The overt sexuality was what initially put me off the show. It works when they're chasing Kilgrave or doing detective stuff, but when it's about her fucking Luke or going 'muh PTSD'/'muh rape analogy' I started skipping stuff.

Other shows like Daredevil work much better, because the relationship crap is toned way down (ended up skipping over most of Elektra's stuff because her character annoys me).
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>>80951883
Elektra was arguably best-written and best-played "toxic and destructive ex-girlfriend" character I've seen in lower-class movies. Seriously, love it or hate it, but you can't deny that acting and writing was great.
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I don't. it was alright but had some terrible moments and used some annoying cliches. At least it was unique in some way unlike all these other superhero shows.
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>>80951873
you really shouldn't
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>>80951883
>because the relationship crap is toned way down
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>>80951335
This
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>>80942781
Nothing wrong with getting upset by this board's low standards.
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>>80936344
I liked it. Although it shot the load with Killgrave WAY too early. We should have gotten 2/3 with JJ being a private dick, and dicking around. Last third should have been Purple.

And what >>80936378 said
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>>80936403

I should imagine the hulk smells pretty bad after a good smashing session, can't imagine Tony Stark smells too good after a couple of hours in the Iron Man suit either.
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>>80937302

hold up a moment, is there a punisher series on netflix now?
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Crossover with JJ when?
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>>80952413
I meant Daredevil, duh
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THAT IS NOT A CARTOON
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>>80941751

Where the hell do you think you are? The man was literally living the dream of being a waifufag.
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>>80936344
My favorite marvel show yet. I love DD but JJ is just perfect for what i want in a show. I love shows about broken people and this delivers in spades.
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I just finished it last night. It was good, thanks.
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>>80951863
Uh...you know they are building the defenders with Luke cage and iron fist. They are getting their own team up show. Besides we have supers and normies in the avengers why wouldnt it work here?
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>>80937038
I wish she had pulled his head off.

How do they explain that he emits a virus, but when he powers up, he can now control over the phone?
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>>80936863
This. I don't hate it, but all the holes make it damn difficult to love. It's probably got THE most plotholes of anything thin the MCU.
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>>80952577
When did he do that? I don't remember him being able to control via phone.
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>>80952577
Don't remember any phone part but it doesn't matter. Once the virus is in your system distance is irrelevant. Distance only matters for infection.
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>>80936344
At the beginning of this show when they kept talking about needing Defense attorneys, was anyone else disappointed when we didn't get some Nelson & Murdock?
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>>80936344
Everyone except purple man and your upstairs neighbors were boring and uninteresting
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>>80937038
objectively the best part of the show and he's killed off
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>>80953762
I was. It would've been a pretty organic connection.
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>>80940802
Lester Freeman?
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>>80953791
>except
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>>80936344
I legit liked jessica jones, but it was a 7-8 episode show dragged out into 13 for no reason except for network mandates.

the incest twins served no purpose, neither of them gave any sort of development for any cast members. the closest thing we got was the sister driving the support group to go on a witch hunt because...?
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>>80953798
Yeah. Dont even need Daredevil at all, would have just been neat to have Foggy and Matt as side characters doing Lawyer stuff. Would have been better then the lesbians at least.
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>>80953278
>>80953542
he gave luke orders over the phone.
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>>80953988
God that was pointless. Seriously, I'm all for diversity and representation. There are lots of different people in the world and that should be visible in the MCU. But Jeri's entire subplot was literally there to illustrate "See, lesbians can be meanies too!"

>>80954027
But Luke was under his control at that point.
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>>80954049
yes, but all commands he gave up to that point were in person so that the victim had to follow them...did killgrave say 'hey, go with jessica, pretend to be her lover until I call you with further instructions'? Because the powers he was depicted with don't seem like that would have worked.
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>>80936629
>frankly

kek'd
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Jessica Jones has a dirty butt hole for 5 episodes of her show.
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>>80954078
>did killgrave say 'hey, go with jessica, pretend to be her lover until I call you with further instructions'?
I would guess that the answer to that is yes.

>Because the powers he was depicted with don't seem like that would have worked.
I agree. Kilgrave's powers were a constant source of the plotholes in this show.
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>>80943097
Thanks buddy!
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>>80936344
Shit pacing, drug out a plot that should have been done and over with in 3 episodes, TOPS. Main villain was just some autistic manchild, JJ was a stupid cunt and it took her having the person she was trying to protect kill herself for her to do something about her villain instead of just mope around crying about MUH SOGGY KNEES.
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Daredevil is the only Netflix show that deserves multiple seasons. Jessica Jones without purple man is just going to be boring.
Luke Cage and Iron Fist's shows should run for one season and be replaced with Heroes for Hire.

That's two free slots for them to make a Punisher series, a Moon Knight series, a Blade series or even a Hellcat series if that's what they're going for.
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>>80953932
They did for Malcolm. They made him a more cynical, jaded person.
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>>80954269
which wasn't necessary.

malcolm could have gone that road himself, seeing jessica being legitimately selfish, doing nothing to help the support group.
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>>80954205
Can someone explain to me why Killgrave is heralded as some amazing villain?

Thing I was most impressed with was how he remained the only big threat thoughout the entire season. The stakes felt amazingly low.
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>>80954205
>Main villain was just some autistic manchild
Didn't you know? "He's just a big child" is what people think depth is nowadays.
I'm tired of people making their villains manchildren, and thinking it inherently makes the character deep.
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>>80954288
/co/ has amazingly low standards when it comes to villains. Just remember how they praised Arrow's whiny Deathstroke.
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>>80954315
>whiny deathstronke
>"You killed my lover who....never actually said she loved me....and you didn't actually kill her
>"But her ghost said to get vengeance, so I'm going to methodically take everything from you!"
>cue him taking everything from oliver, up to and including his will to live

>>80954347
because....I emBARRASSED YOU....in front...of her!
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If I ever find the fucking anon who recommended me this shit show and made waste 6 hours of my life, i will fucking skin him.
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Jessica was just too much of a fucking asshole, and her excuses for that became flimsier and flimsier as the show went along

At first you think she's like that because of what Kilgrave did to her, which, you know, fair enough

Then we get a flashback to before she met Kilgrave, and we see she was already an abrasive cunt back then, but then we remember the whole thing with her family dying and her stepmother being a total bitch, so she gets a pass

BUT THEN, we get to ANOTHER flashback to BEFORE her family died, when they get in the car, and she breaks her brother's game boy for no fucking reason at all

So no, Jessica. You're just an unlikable bitch, and karma keeps hitting you on the head because you just won't learn
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>>80954554
>she breaks her brother's game boy

Someone breaking a Game Boy was the most unrealistic part of the show.
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>>80936344
Creepyass eyes.
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>>80954347
He was really, really good this season. Dnofrio seems to have dropped that delivery and the character has become far more ruthless while in prison.
I'm a huge Miller DD fan and as such was underwhelmed by his performance in S1 but it seems they got him on the right track.
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>>80954582
No shit. Those things can literally withstand getting full on bombed and still work.

http://geekologie.com/2008/03/gameboy-survives-bombing-still.php
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I don't hate your show Jessia. I think Killgrave was a disappointing villain. I think you should have gone through way more physical trauma and hardship. I think Luke Cage is a boring and stale character. I think Hoggarth should have been given more screen time, because she's easilly the most memorable and actually threatening character on the show.

But I don't hate it.
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>>80954582
HOly shit this
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>>80936675
That's Killgrave's waifu you're posting there. I'd be careful if I were you
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>>80954288
He was well-acted. That's about it, as a character he isn't great, he works as a nice commentary on the nature of human condition, but he just can't be taken seriously because of how low the scale he operates on is.
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>>80954372
I like season 2 of Arrow and the Arrowverse in general, but I'm seriously baffled by /co/'s love for Deathstroke. He was shit.

>>80954582
>Jessica throws the Game Boy
>"She broke my Game Boy!"
>"Calm down. We'll get it fixed."
>"You can't fix me. I'm unbreakable." flashes on the screen.
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>>80955947
>He was well-acted
Really? Tennant felt like he was bored with the role. I get sociopaths are not very emotional people unless they need to manipulate someone, but it's not like you can't play unemotional characters well.
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>>80955947
I disagree. I think he works perfectly as a threatening villain and the scale he works on is perfect.

I don't know about you but I have basically no fear I'll get caught up in the next 9/11 or Boston Bombing (Avenger scale). I'm slightly paranoid that there is some conspiracy looking to fuck me over but I'm basically comfortable with my station in life and don't think they are after me in particular (Daredevil scale). But the idea that my life could get fucked up by one wrong decision haunts me, and Killgrave embodies that. He can ruin your life in an hour and not even notice. The best example of this I think is that guy he kidnapped to be his chauffeur for a week. That guy lost his job, his relationship with his wife tanked, and he probably irrevocably fucked up his relationship with his child, and probably gave him mental trauma forever. And Killgrave did it all of that to a guy in a week. By accident. It's a lot scarier and more of a 'real' threat to me.
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>>80956263
"Bored" is the exact thing he was supposed to be, so yeah it came across well.

The thing is, the scary thing about Killgrave is how inhumane he is.

Really think about. The way Killgrave aproaches human experience is fundamentally different from anything any other human being experiences. He goes through life without ever facing any opposition, without any social dillema, without ever not being gratified and fullfield. When he wants to be happy and content he gts it. Every time. In any way he wants.

That is scary. That is a character you cannot BEGIN to empathize with, there is just too much of a barrier in the way you percieve reality.

And it was acted pretty well. Killgrave does come off as a complete psychopath that is just completely bored by everything, because he has seen everything life has to offer. Everything.
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>>80955947
The problem is not the low scale. The problem is that he wasn't very menacing. He could've been at least creepy as hell if the show didn't go out of its way to make him laughably pathetic. More depth instead of blatantly making him a character audience should hate wouldn't have hurt either. I don't mean to make him a sympathetic figure by that, just more human even if in a twisted way.
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she looks like one of those primordial dwarfs
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>>80937547
There is a moment in the season when you know FRANK is starting barely 12
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>>80956399
>>80956431
The problem is, the scale Killgrave operates on is pathetic. For a villain to be threatening they have exceed the scale of the plot with their motivation and goals, not lower the bar. In a story that constantly tries to present Killgrave as a world-wide threat capable of unquantifiable levels of destruction he just... Wants to bang a girl. Live a normal life. Have a full belly and a roof over his head.

He comes off as... Lazy. There is this sense of amazing wastefullness with him, that he could do so, so, so much more, but he just... Doesn't. He has no reason and no desie to. He's got everything he needs.

That is why he doesn't work as a villain.
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>>80956399
Essentially "one is a tragedy one million is a statistic". Anyone who thinks that making the numbers bigger somehow increases the ability to relate to what's going on is an idiot.
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>>80956417
Let me approach it differently. It not even once felt like a character was bored. It felt like the actor was bored.
There's difference.

>That is scary
No, it's not. He's not inhumane, he's just a spoiled brat that's all. I'm sure there are many people like that, just without godlike powers.
Hannibal Lecter is inhumane with his messed-up reasoning and morality, Kilgrave is just an idiot manchild.
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>>80956647
>He's not inhumane
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>>80954347
>Implying you could hate Mr. Fisk
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>>80956668
Yes. It's pretty human behaviour, like it or not.
I guess you've never seen people who are too high on money and power to care about others. Or never interacted with bratty little kids with spineless parents for that matter.

>inb4 edgelord
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>>80946680

>Is this what, 4th wave feminism? Which is the recreationally offended one?

It's all still 3rd Wave.
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>>80954347
I don't. I watched the seond season of Dardevil entirely to see your big, sad puppy eyes again and I skipped on my seat when you showed up.
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