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Why is this season so Frank, bros?
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Cause frank is fukin franking everyone
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Daredevil Season 2?

More like Frank Season 1: Daredevil shows up occasionally and is a faggot
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>>80898453
>implying that's what the gun scene corresponds to in the comics
Fucking cringeworthy OP
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On a percentage based scale, how close was Elektra to cumming when Matt was beating the shit out of the man who killed his father?
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I'm not sure I understood the Hand's plan
>Step 1: Dig huge hole in the ground
>Step 2: Make a normal human with above-average fighting skills your leader
>Step 3: ????
>Step 4: World domination
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>>80898566
One hundred percent. It's not a matter of "close."
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>>80898588
>Step 5: Die from blood infection
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>Every time Foggy says war zone
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why hasn't karen died already
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>>80898453

OPINION!!!!!!!!

They should have replaced the Elektra shit with Kingping shit and the season would have been beyond perfect
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>>80898566

forced edgy shit
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Anyone else regret watching it in one sitting? I have nothing else to watch now
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>mfw the Potato Niggers threatened to torture Rex
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>tfw /co/ hates your waifu just because she's trying her best even though she's not perfect

Feels bad

You have to appreciate her earnestness
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>>80898803
Counter-opinion. They should have replaced the Elektra shit with Typhoid Mary shit.
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>>80898788
She needs to become a porn star and a drug addict first, and later be told that she has AIDS
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>>80898588
>>Step 1: Dig huge hole in the ground
Yeah, what the fuck was that hole for?
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>>80898588
Yeah Elektra being Black Sky was super disappointing.

Like I'm pretty sure Nobu could destroy her in a fight so what's the point of her being leader
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>>80898596
Watch Alexander, retard. Colin Farrell plugs her in that and she's topless.
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>>80898453
does frank show up after episode 4?
what about the dog?
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>>80899255
They dug a hole from Japan to New York
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>>80899893
>does frank show up after episode 4?
Yes
>what about the dog?
No more doggo
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>>80899953
b-but he was franks buddy!
he could've become the dog-punisher!
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>>80900037
>dog sidekick with guns
Season 3.
I wish
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>>80898903
I like her, anon.
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>>80900142
Yeah but people in these threads bash her like she's Felicity

I really hope she doesn't become Felicity in season 3
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Is Elektra the Huntress of Daredevil? ie a shit character that nobody cares about that just won't go away.
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>>80900210
She was so useful, uncovering shit and being badass
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To people complaining about the Elektra Black Sky thing, remember that kid from Season 1 who was also a Black Sky? That skinny little shit who was chained down? Clearly there's still a bunch of shit the hand is into that we don't know about.
Fuck, we don't even know what the Black Sky even IS except that the Hand wants it, and, going by how the Black Sky is always referred to as an "it" it may not be just the person.
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who was that redhead that was with the hand
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>People shitting on Karen and Elektra
W E W
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>>80899933
>>80899255
It's where they've found the Urn.

Either that or Magic ain't gotta to explain shit, yet.
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>>80900210
Whut? How?

For fuck sake, I get that felicityi s considered a mary sue, but page is clearly an human character, not a stand-in fantasy. It's an as real character as you can get.

It's really like people are charging their engine for the sake of hatting, no matter what, and using BS reason to justify it because they have seen it work somewhere else.
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>>80898849
i am currently watching Ascension. Not a cartoon or comic based, but really good.
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>>80900599
Yeah, she's the 'love interest that doesn't know they are dating the hero' trope done right. It's been done well before, but the CW shows run it into the ground with Laurel and Felicity and Iris.

Netflix benefits from affording better actors and writers, though.
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>>80900322
I wouldn't call her a badass. Elektra was. She was tenacious, though. I liked that.
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Cole-Alves when?
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>>80900726
Beginning stuff with her confronting Grotto and calling his shit was kind of badass. I liked when she leaned for a kiss and gave him the bird instead.
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>>80898453
What was he laughing at?
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>>80899255
Nobu order them to dig a hole and they dug a hole.
Must be how riddlers henchmen feel, they don't quite understand the point of their task but they do it because it's their job!
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>>80900822
The thugs being fooled by an empty weapon.

He only used it until the marine got inside the house.
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>>80900846
They all met Kilgrave and threatened him and he racistly just said. "Oh fuck off straight back to China".
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>>80899058
I think that's part of her past in the MCU, because the newspaper guy told her Ben had a file on her, and that he and Ben didn't care about what was on it.

The most we'll see is cropped footage of it with someone seeing an old video of hers and freaking out when they realize it's her.
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>>80900889
meant for
>>80900836
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>>80899299
>Like I'm pretty sure Nobu could destroy her in a fight so what's the point of her being leader
I am pretty sure part of being Black sky required to go in urn (alive or not), where her potential power would have truly unveiled.

They have said it. Black Sky are child with secret power. Nobu didn't have the genetic to make it work.
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>>80900892
>Matt finds some porn
>Starts masturbating
>Realizes it's Karen
>Starts maturbating more furiously
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>>80899933
lmao
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>No mention of S.H.I.E.L.D
>Foggy isn't wearing a CA emblem shirt or talking about being rich like Tony Stark
>no quips
>No body talking about Tony Stark

Why is DD ashamed to be part of the MCU?
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The moral of the story is:
It's wrong to kill someone, unless that person is a zombie.

(also, resurrected count as zombie).
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>>80900962
Matt wouldn't be able to perceive video on a screen
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>>80900453
>mfw
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Just finished episode 5. Please tell me this is the worst episode of the season.
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>>80900977
The movie division wants to stay as far away from Netflix shows as possible.
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>>80901017
It actually is
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>>80901017
5-7 is the weakest imo, but it immediately gets better
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it didn't really make any sense that punisher showed up at the end to pick off those ninjas, but I'll be god damned in hell if it wasn't awesome

Frank really stole the whole series. Maybe they'll shitcan that jessica jones trash and make a Punisher spinoff.
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>>80900987
>Foggy finds some porn
>Starts masturbating
>Realizes it's Karen
>Starts maturbating more furiously
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>>80901017
Yeah, it actually is.

They start a new season there almost. It builds up from there on.
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>>80901065
Before that scene he started listening to the police radio, heard about ninjas with bows, probably saw what was going on and knew the ninjas were worth killing because they killed the cops and DD was fighting them.

It makes sense if you put two and two together.
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What was the song that played when Frank dropped the biker with the headphones?
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>Decide to look up Marci's actress
>Her tits are so big there's no way she doesn't have nudes
>She does not
Why is this allowed?
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They should've had segments of Fisk just trying to fit in the prison & have him network some prison politics until he becomes a King Pin in the cells.
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Why do people act like JJ was so bad? It was fine. Not as good as Daredevil seasons one or two, but it was in no way bad. Its biggest flaw was that it could've been shorter, but other than that it was solid.
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>>80901022
So Agents of S.H.I.T is fine but the Netflix series isn't? what bullshit.
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>>80901160
Have you checked Ancensored?
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>>80901215
Agents of SHIELD is finally good now.

Yeah, it took 3 seasons but it actually is.

The Netflix shows are too dark and violent for muh MCU
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>>80901264
And shitposting reachs a new low. Somewhere an australian cries.
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>>80901179
I'm one of the people who "acts like it was so bad." I wouldn't whine about it except that the media talks about it like it's the greatest thing ever. In the DD season 2 reviews, everyone was saying how awful DD was, and how much better JJ is. Go look at any aggregate review site. Critics fawn over JJ, fans love DD.

JJ was not good. It might have been better if it weren't trying SO HARD to be in your face about being political and if the JJ actress weren't shit. DD is basically a fucking masterpiece for the genre, and it infuriates me that critics jizz all over it and even go so far as to shit on DD because of their poisonous, feminist bullshit.

I'm sure I'll be accused of autism or w/e, but you asked.
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>>80901215
It's about tone. Approximating the two too much would make Daredevil seem needlessly violent of the movie MCU feel naive.

If it tells the story, I'm fine with it. I prefer to watch the characters be themselves rather than try and get as many combinations as possible on screen.
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>>80901334
I disagree with some of what you said, but I agree with your anger at retards saying JJ was better. We may disagree on whether or not JJ was good, but I'm not a dumb retard who thinks it's better than DD in any fucking way.

Also Ritter was perfect as her.
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>>80901326
How the fuck am I shitposting? Shield started off really bad, but over time improved immensely.
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>>80900977
Because the MCU is a joke. Why do you faggots need stupid little references every 10 seconds?
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When she's on her period but you still eat the pussy.
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>>80901149
Anybody?
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>>80901160
>people are actually arguing Karen vs Elektra with that bimbo around

what are they, low test?
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>>80901423
She was supposed to have ptsd and be an emotionally complex character, and instead acted like a drunken Meg Ryan or something.

It just really didn't work for me, idk senpai.
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>>80901255
I just did, seems like Amy Rutberg is pure
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>>80901546
same, people can say what they want about DD, but it's miles above JJ in every possible aspect, from waifus to action and now it has Frank
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>>80901334
You seem jaded by 4chan as a whole. Jessica Jones wasn't really a feminist show. Se kept fucking up and suffering from her own mistakes. They actually managed to make her and Trish feel human. I never felt agenda pushing like you sometimes get.

It was more psychological than Daredevil, so some people like it more. It certainly is more different from the norm in the genre from Daredevil, so it has novelty to go with it too.

The action did suck, but no one watched it for the action, anyway.

I actually don't know which I like more. I guess it changes with what you want to watch.

Also Kristen Ritter is a fucking amazing actress, she has amazing range. She didn't look the part, but she felt like the part.
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>>80899933
fastest way to get drugs/people/tentacle monsters into new york
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>>80901628
>Jessica Jones wasn't really a feminist show.
I don't really disagree with what you're ultimately saying, but the writer/producer said it was and made a huge stink about it. Which I would have been happy to ignore, except every single goddamn reviewer kept talking about how GAME CHANGING it was and HOW STRONG JJ IS LOOK SHE'S A WOMAN AND STRONG ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION BOYS

It definitely soured my enjoyment non-trivially. But I stand by my other criticisms of the show.
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>>80899761
Watch Trance, she has a full frontal and she's completely waxed.
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>>80900836
such loyalty in a henchman is hard to find
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>tfw everyone talking about Claire, Elektra, and Marci
>tfw you can only die happy if you see Karen's butthole
>sadfrog.jpg
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Damn Melvin, you awesome bro.

Nice billyclub.
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>>80901876
I have a weird fetish. When I see a famous person's pussy or anus, I feel like I own them. Thinking about that makes my dick more hard than the feeling that seeing them naked.
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>>80901628
>Jessica Jones wasn't really a feminist show.
It was actually quite the opposite, every single female character in the show was retarded as fuck to the point it was cringe worthy
Rewatch it and you'll notice that absolutely everything bad that ever happened in the show was a woman's fault
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>>80900690
Starts off promisingly but quickly turns to shit.
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I just watched Frank's outburst in the courtroom. He just keeps getting Frankier
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>>80901747
Heh, you shouldn't let the artist affect the performance. But fair enough. Daredevil is more cathartic, but Jessica Jones kept me horrified and at the edge of my seat for longer during the mystery solving plots.

I don't think either show has managed to deliver a good finale, although DD S2 is in the lead. This is what's keeping me from calling them masterpieces. They missed great opportunities too:

DD S1 should've spent more time choreographing/shooting the last fight. It looked very amateurish, especially for the big climax.

JJ S1 she should've punched him in the voice box before killing him or something more relevant to the theme that just snapping his neck.

DD S2 Frank should've killed more than 4 ninjas, that was kind of pathetic.

Which is odd, because SHIELD has had pretty great finales, despite being a cheap show.

>>80901989
Which is why I think the show humanized them pretty well. You're not supposed to agree with everything the MC does.
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>>80901065
i was disappointed you didn't hear him mowing them down with the minigun while matt and elektra were talking
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>>80901915
Melvin is the cutest, most positive thing in this series and nobody can prove me wrong.
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>>80901179
Season 1 of JJ was only good because of the villain, which they killed off. Everything else was mediocre.
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>>80902062
>I don't think either show has managed to deliver a good finale
I loved the DD S1 finale. I actually thought it was perfect. Season 2 should have just been Frank, the whole show should have been Frank. Cancel everything else and make everything Frank. No I'm not joking or being sarcastic.
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You know, considering the amount of his own DNA that DD has left around crime scenes it's a wonder nobody found it was murdoc
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so was karen starting to fall for Frank or something?
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>>80900760
Frank Boss makes me so wet
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>>80898843
>edgy

Edging. It's called edging.

I'll use it in a sentence.

Elektra was edging closer to orgasm the more Matt pummeled Roscoe.
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The season would have been much better if they just named it "Punisher and Friends" and gave frank more screen time to be franking. He was by far the best part of S2, and every scene with him in it was leagues better than any DD + Elektra scene.
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>>80901264
Well not just dark, I think they are realistic about how often people on the streets would talk about people like the avengers. Like, I don't talk about Warren Buffet all the time like they don't talk about Stark.

It just isn't a part of their life unless the city is crumbling. And if the city is crumbling well, it becomes the driving force behind Fisk's plot in season one what with the invasion causing cheap real estate
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>>80902231
they need some dna to compare it to and murdoc isnt in the system yet
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>>80898453
How many days until we get Punisher series confirmed?
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>>80901179
JJ was bad because that fucktard Bendis was involved, hes stayed far away from DD as far as i know
I just hope he keeps his chubby digits off Luke Cage
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>>80901179
>inb4 its because men cant handle a strong woman
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>>80902166
Yep, the villain was pretty great.
He wouldnt stand a chance against Frank, tho.
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>>80901264
>Yeah, it took 3 seasons but it actually is.
sounds like Stockholm syndrome.
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Finished binge watching this and I gotta say, Matt is a real faggot. The reason why I say this is he's constantly pushing the "Your way is wrong my way is right!" on EVERYONE.
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>>80901621
u had me by frank
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Do people really like these Netflix shows?
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>>80898453
>People cheer that the Avangers slaughter hydra soldiers
>Jessica Jones kills the BBEG
>Frank kill too, only hes a monster

Why are people so frankphobic, /co/?
Its 2016, people!
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>>80902672
>Calling us people
lol
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>>80902675
#FrankLivesMatter
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>>80902503
He's no Frank, but until we get Punisher's own show, hes the best we got.
Because franks show up on his show.
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One thing that really bothered me was Matt's severe case of scully syndrome when it came to the Hand.

>Theres no way that these guys are immortal or mystical in any way because thats too wierd and crazy to be true!
>Meanwhile hes standing a few blocks from ground zero of a fight between an army of aliens and the Avengers one of whom is motherfucking Thor. This event was in broad daylight and highly televised.

I know we cant have the plots of the movies overshadow the smaller stories they're trying to tell but this is getting ridiculous. It was the same problem I had with Jessica Jones and no one believing in the purple man.
The writers have to remember this is not our world anymore. The civilians in the MCU have been exposed to too much publicly displayed crazy superhero shit for them to react with such denial still when someone comes to them with stuff like this.
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>>80902503
That is part of the charm of the season. On the boat Daredevil is about to break down and agree to killing, but the Frank saves that bit of pure naivety by kicking him off the boat
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>>80902766
There should be more ongoing arcs with people exploiting shit like that fortheir own gain.
Like a smart crook that was selling fake super powers or shit,.... no that was a bad idea. Ask the writers to come up with something smart, they are the ones getting paid.
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>>80902766
>Daredevil throws people off the roof and shit
>"It's okay because they're not dead. They might be a vegetable now or paralyzed but at least they're alive. Also if anyone dies it's not my fault because I didn't kill them, I just chose not to or couldn't save them."
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>>80902766
>The writers have to remember this is not our world anymore. The civilians in the MCU have been exposed to too much publicly displayed crazy superhero shit for them to react with such denial still when someone comes to them with stuff like this.
Sadly, even in the comics writers keep trying to pretend people would act like it's still the real world
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>>80902675
>slaughter hydra soldiers
never happened.
Iron man rays are set to stun, black widow uses electricity, clint doesnt aim for vital spots, hulk has a 0 kill count, cap shield is blunt, etc, etc.
They are heroes, not killers.... and we will hate them for it. as it will be revealed in civil war.
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>>80902862
>In season 1 Matt threatens a pedophile he knows is molesting his daughter
>Just leaves them alone after that
>Frank just fucking puts a bullet in a child porn peddler's head
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Season 2 should have been an all-out gang war in the city ending with Matt declaring himself Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen.
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>>80902916
>bullet
that's a fun way to spell bat
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>>80898907
She's a mutie, dudie. No dice.
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>>80902949
It was Frank, clearly he shot the bat out of a gun.
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>>80902943
this is daredevil, not shadow the hedgehog
>inb4 something like this happened in the comics
everything happened in the comics.
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>>80900303
>Huntress
>a shit character

In what world? How fucking bad are Huntress comics other than Cry for Blood?
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>>80902943
Shadowland is for S3 or even 4 friend.
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>>80902862
No, it's okay because they are zombies.

The Hand people are already dead.
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>>80902971
Wheres the punishers sidekick?
Does he show up?
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>>80900889
>Killgrave tells them to fuck off back to china
>hundreds of ninjas take shifts literally fucking the ground to make a hole
>What Matt and Elektra found was the result of hundred of man hours of continuous ground dicking.
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>>80902889
>I don't see any evidence of regular visitations
I take it this teacher doesn't watch the new much. Or have access to the internet. Or ever talk to people outside of the classroom.
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>>80902889

That is one thing I've always liked about DC over Marvel. At least pre-Flashpoint. Erryone knew about aliens because for over a decade, they'd been a well-accepted fact.

Whereas in Marvel, they've had routine alien invasions.

Hell, the Daily Bugle and whatever Fox News-equivalent it was listed the reason Stormin' Norman became head of S.H.I.E.L.D. as "stopped an alien invasion by shooting the queen with a ray gun".
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>>80903002
Shadowland and Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen were years apart, dude.
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>>80902243
She was projecting onto Frank because of her past and she killed Wesley and never told anyone

Basically she was hoping with every fiber of her being that someone like Frank could ultimately be a good person because that would mean that she is still a good person.
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>>80903029
>cant handle the franks
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>>80901160
>Mfw her tits aren't as big as I thought
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>>80902989
He might be referring to Arrow Huntress.
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Huh.

I kind of expected it to turn out that electra stopped her own heart and was faking death

But apparently not.
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>>80900760
After they introduce Lynn.
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>>80902675
>>80902742
>Being FJWs
Fuck that. We need to build a wall around Frank.
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>>80903545
This shit right here.
This is the kind of shit that keeps me coming back to this board.
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>>80900396
Typhoid Mary you filthy casual.
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B U L L S E Y E
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>>80903268

I'm really glad her "YOU'LL BE DEAD TO ME FRANK" amounted to him telling her to fuck off. So many chances to ruin the Punisher and they dodged all of them.
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>>80902243
Way better then the vanilla matt/karen relationship
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>>80901017
5 - 8 aka Matt fucks his whole life up: the episodes are pretty bad

9 puts it back on track
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Why would anyone read capeshit when this just dominates the source "material" (for once)
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>>80902071
I expected the gattling to play a role, but instead he just carries it out of his house as foreshadowing for later I guess.
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>>80901065
>He doesn't wanna see JJ season 2 with Foggy as a main cast member

>All that grim depressing shit in Jessica's life
>Foggy just making fun and being a bro
>Together they solve mysteries or some shit
Come on, man, it writes itself.
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Do people dislike Jessica Jones to make a point? I fucking hate feminism, SJWs, etc but I can't comprehend liking superhero shit but disliking JJ... unless of course you hate everything that isn't Adam West and Christopher Reed also.
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>>80905648
>Reed
I knew there was a reason to be suspicious.
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>>80898453

>YFW Finger Splint Scene
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>>80905814
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>Hanukah!
Of course.
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>>80905922
its new york after all
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>>80900987
You know that braille machine Matt had in Season 1 to read the court documents on the computer?

I bet he has something like that for porn.
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So Luke Cage is going to be the best out of the 4, yes?
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>>80903369
They certainly are in DD, but in everything else I've found she's kinda flat. I guess she got an upgrade before the show.
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lmao I've enjoyed JJ the most so far out of these 3 seasons. Could it be that Daredevil is retarded with how many scenes are in pitch blackness? I don't know I'm not an autist that keeps notes. The fight scenes didn't quite do it for me this season besides episode 3. The show has lost its edge (disregarding Punisher).
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>>80906084

> Matt breaks down on the boat, agrees to kill Blacksmith.
> Frank doesn't want to see a fellow soldier go down the same path as him. Franks him right off the boat.

That was a damn fine moment. Frank is a true patriot.
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>say something
I'm giving up on you
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>its a Kingpin episode
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>>80906367
Honestly my favorite episode if we ignore deep Frank/Matt conversations.
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>>80898513
Since bitches were whining about this I thought it'd be the Frank show going it, but it wasn't. Daredevil was in it a titsload. They didn't forget its his show.
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>>80906403
>that talk between Matt and Fisk
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Is the redhead working with Nobu and The Hand supposed to be Typhoid Mary or someone?
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>>80901628
It's similar to what happened with Mad Max.

It's a movie where women are no better than men, morally or otherwise. Women are as hateful, violent, distrustful, cruel and destructive as men. Furiosa helps a dictator until right before the movie, the Many Mothers are murderous bandits who failed to protect the last Green Place, and so on.

Only by collaborating with the men they initially hated could they win.

But the media sees women protagonists, ignores the context, ignores the story, ignores the actual message of union and real equality, and says "SEE, WOMEN ARE BETTER, FEMINISM!".

That said, JJ may not even come close to DD, but it's still better than all the other superhero TV shows, MCU or otherwise.
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>>80906576
>mfw Fisk is going to go full Born Again on Matt next season

I just hope he doesn't turn my waifu into a junkie porn star
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So who gave frank the body armor was it the the colonel?. Wes his plant to make frank the ultimate killing machine or something?
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>>80906604
could go either way
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>>80901628
>The action did suck
How? Because it wasn't flippy cuts in pitch blackness? The action certaintly did not suck, but as you say it's besides the point.
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>>80906660
You mean early season?
He got it all from the cortel.
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>>80906712
Because it was boring and generic.
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>>80906660
How do you mean gave? The final reveal in the shed armory was body armor.
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>>80906750
DD2's weightless jumpcut kung fu is more generic than super strength cunts throwing people around.
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>>80906808
Nah
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>>80906712
The only episode with well directed action was the one with Nuke at the end, I thought. That and Kilgrave's escape from the cell, mostly because of the quick succession of 'OH FUCK' moments. That was GOAT.

Every super-strong character has trouble being brought to a tv screen because everything they lift seem like Styrofoam. You never feel the impact and you could always see the actors being lifted up by strings and stuff like that. Kristen is a great actress but she's built like a chopstick so there's no way around it. Also, Jessica's strength is a bit inconsistent throughout.

Not that it hinders the show at all, but I can see why it was underwhelming for people coming from DD.
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>>80906367
>its a Elektra episode
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So was the action in DD2 a step down from DD1? Ignoring Frank of course. I notice A LOT of offscreen hits where Season 1 won me over partly with its focused carnage. I guess you should expect DD to feel less real the more powerful he gets but I didn't think that'd mean niggas being KOd off screen so much.
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>>80906901
>it's a Frank episode
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>>80906712
>The action certaintly did not suck
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>>80905814
Ah, the ancient bamboo sprout under fingernail torture technique!
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>>80905648

the show was slow, dumb and watered down.

not worthy, purple man was great but the rest was shit
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>>80906755
Yeah so who's shed is it?
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I just wrapped up episode seven and I hope this Matt/Karen relationship drama ends up going somewhere.
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>>80905648
Jessica Jones is a shitty, uninteresting character who got a show before any of the other team Daredevil characters because she is a female and because Elektra was booked for Daredevil. They should have given Mary an arc in Daredevil, given Elektra her own show and delegated JJ to Luke Cage.
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>>80907331
B-but muh abusive boyfriend just like IRL!!!
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>>80907312
heh, wait for it.
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>>80907260
Clancy Brown's. Wasn't that supposed to be our assumption? If not then holy shit someone will be pissed.
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>>80906996
It's a budget thing. This season had a 1 on 10 fight every episode. At least they do it without compromising the style or the tone. Choreography takes time to design and perfect, and this roughly follows a weekly show schedule (with a few more freedoms), and it would look like power rangers or arrow, where everyone is flailing around ducking before the kick is even on the air.

>>80907331
Idiot, she had her show written for 4 years. It had already been pitched for ABC. They just needed the greenlight from an HBO-rating channel that let them be violent. Daredevil was also already conceptualized by Drew Goddard before FOX let the rights go. Luke Cage and Iron Fist had to be built from the ground after the announcement.
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>>80907415
How does that change anything I said?
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When Matt was interviewing Frank on the stand, I was waiting for Frank to say:

"You sound real familiar, Red."
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>>80906808
I don't think 'generic' is the right criticism exactly, but the JJ action scenes are terrible. It's like in chick flicks, there's always some scene that's supposed to be for the men who got dragged there, but it never makes any sense in the context of the film and the men aren't satisfied by it regardless. That's what the fights in JJ felt like. Shit that didn't really work, was tacked on only because people felt it "had to be there", and ultimately half-assed and boring.

Be honest: do you remember the details of ANY JJ fights? Compare the fights in JJ to the 2 long fights in DD season 1 and 2 (the fact that you know exactly what I'm talking about proves my point), and you'll see what I mean.
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>>80907446
>who got a show before any of the other team Daredevil characters because
despite both having been written before there was even a Netflix deal.

>>80907465
If Charlie Cox had red hair like the comics he could've casually called him Red in front of the others without them knowing.
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>>80907571
So what? That still changes nothing I said. Elektra didn't get a show, instead being pawned off on Daredevil and dragging down the show like she does everything she appears in. JJ did get a show first and it is because she is a woman on team Daredevil that isn't Elektra. And JJ absolutely should have been delegated to the Luke Cage show because that is literally her only relevance. The fact there wasn't a Luke Cage show planned at the time adds insult to injury but ultimately changes nothing about my statement.
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>>80907497
I remember Luke vs. Jessica, because it was the most even fight after the Nuke one.
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>>80907723

>Nuke

Daily reminder Nuke was right and everyone else is a shithead for pushing him away and forcing him to make deals with the shady black ops dudes.
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>>80907657

>JJ got a show because she is a woman

I think you mean because she's one of Bendis' pets.

I can imagine him sitting at home jerking off when 'BASED ON THE COMIC WRITTEN BY BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS' came on screen.
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>>80907751

It's still a shame that they can't call the program Weapon X in this universe. Not yet, anyways.
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>>80907793
I wish I knew that fat cunt's home address so I could send him my issue of Deadpool where Kitty gets knocked the fuck out.
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>>80907657
Are you seriously this stupid? They had two almost fully written shows. They put them on air first, since they were already ahead in production, compared to the ones that fucking weren't.

Jessica Jones only relevant run is better than most of Luke Cage's solo career, and her relevance hinges on the villain and how lonely she feels against him.

Also, introducing Elektra without Daredevil, or even sharing the same production schedule? What would you like to be if you weren't retarded?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu9a29UR2dU

So I'm a bit confused, was that Wesley's car? Or just some random car from someone who died at the hospital?

I really hope Wesley secretly listened to disco cassettes.
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>>80907886
>Jessica Jones only relevant run is better than most of Luke Cage's solo career
Holy shit, is this Bendis? Fuck off.
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>>80907901
She stole Urichs car after she got him killed.
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>>80907934
Also his job.
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>>80907923
>implying you know shit about capeshit before hollywood drops a movie or show
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>>80907751
Nuke was right but he was still a piece of shit and went to far when Jess didn't go far enough..
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>>80907934
Oh shit, that was his car wasn't it. That makes sense.

>takes Ben's car
>takes Ben's job
>takes Ben's office

Mrs. Urich better watch out, I don't think audiences are ready for that.
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>>80907998
Yeah, because I'm the one keeping track of the production schedules of TV shows and citing them as justification for any and all planned characters within a televised universe. Take your fedora back to /tv/.
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>>80908040
Name 3 great Luke Cage runs. You've got 3 minutes.
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>>80908068
Name 1 good Jessica Jones run. You've got 1 hour.
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Fellas, I love this thread and everyone who posted in it, even the shittier trolls.

/co/ for 2nd best board (after /tg/) confirmed.
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>>80908068
Original, Heroes for Hire, Cagebolts.
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>>80907923
Fine. Tell me which solo Luke Cage run is good enough or different enough from the clichés to be adapted into a one season show.

Hating bendis now for fucking everything up is popular and all, but remember he got the power to fuck everything up by writing a bunch of pretty great stuff, particularly before people got sick of him.
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>>80898453
that screenshot and that cover are entirely unrelated and you should feel bad for comparing them
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>>80903025
there's a reference to micro at the end of the last episode
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>>80908123
>Heroes for Hire
>Cagebolts
>Solo
Right. Original sure as hell would've easy to put to screen too. It's not like they would be shitblasted for being racist or anything. It's like you don't even live in the real world.

>>80908097
Alias.
>inb4 Bendis.
It was good enough to be brought to screen. You guys think that because of the writer is writing shit now means everything he ever looked at was shit.
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Alektra and black nurses parts are boring.
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>>80908282
>It was good enough to be brought to screen.
According to who?
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>>80899255
Vampires
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>>80908301
>when when

Do you know how acronyms work, anon?
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How long to we get wildfrank?
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>>80898453

So what happened in Kandahar?
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>>80902501
I started with season 3 then watched one and two on Netflix
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>>80908329

Brian Michael Bendis.
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How would you describe Wilson Fisk's mannerisms in two words or less?
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>>80898453

>12 YEARS OLD

You dun fucked up
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>>80908282
Bendis was never good, and he's only gotten worse
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>>80908403
Weird, how Slingshot had better speeding VFX than the flash. or any of the quicksilvers.

I guess they could splurge a bit more, because they use less VFX, but still, I thought it was pretty cool.
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>>80908464
>Daredevil
>Ultimate Spider
>Alias
He might have become complacent and brought his dialogue style to places that didn't need it and single-handedly ruin modern marvel comics, but he wasn't always bad, despite the memes. Seriously, stop regurgitating what /co/ and /tv/ put in your head.
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So are Frank and Matt on good terms at the end of the season?

I mean, he sees him come back after everyone thought he was dead and shoots a couple of ninjas, but I guess the whole 'gotta stop him no matter what' attitude took a backseat to dealing with the Hand.
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>>80908365
I'm sorry, was trying to quickly type before my rocket league match started
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>>80908442

Asperger's Syndrome.
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>>80908551
Just be honest. You just started reading comics didn't you.
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>>80898453

Who else skipped past any part that didn't directly involve Frank in some way? Matt was just a prick this season.
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>>80908622
stuff like this makes me think they'll greenlight a Frank series after all.
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>>80908658

I think it would have been better if they just shortened the season to like 8 episodes centered entirely around Frank, and then saved the Hand stuff for the next season. Cause Frank just overshadows everything else. That's what he does.
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>>80908551
Negro, I have read every one of Bendis's earlier works including Powers, and the exact same flaws he has today are present in all his earlier works
>disregard for continuity
>panels oversaturated with dialogue
>giant splash pages with entire conversations
>extreme decompression
>no distinct character voices
>Repetition
>Repetition?
>Yes, repetition
>dropped plot points
he's worse today, but don't pretend these are new problems
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best girl coming through
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>>80908753
And those work for Alias perfectly fine, which is my initial point.

It doesn't tarnish the first runs the fact that he overstayed his welcome.
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>>80908401
FRANK ME UP INSIDE
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>>80908753
oh and waifuing Kitty Pryde
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why did those two Jakuza flunkies tie their pinkie fingers before getting shot in the head?
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post some season 2 frankface
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>>80908801
Elektra's last kick in that fight scene was fucking pathetic. The fight was pretty cool, but the last half-assed kick made me chuckle.
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>>80908845

They thought they were going to cut their fingers off for their failure.
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So who attacked the Irish in the very beginning? Did we see a ninja star go into a mick's neck? I know someone lost a hand postmortem, which isn't the Punisher's style, right?
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Why does Dare Devil punch like a girl? Didnt he learn anything from his dad?
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>>80908836
CAN'T FRANK UP
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>>80908961
he chopped the hand off to get the briefcase full of money to lure Finn Cooley to America
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>>80908961
It was the punisher. He cut the hand because it was cuffed to the case with money for his toys and to bring the boss into play.

There was no ninja star, he just started with a snipe.
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>>80908961
are you fucking stupid
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>>80904024
Incidentally, they set up so many cliche scenes, and dodged every single one of them.

>Foggy being a bit jealous of Matt and Karen, didn't develop into a shitty love triangle
>Matt and Elektra half naked talking and then sleeping in Matt's living room didn't develop into Karen finding them and assuming he's cheating on her
>Karen actually finding Elektra on Matt's bed, wounded, didn't develop into "you're cheating on me". She considers it one possibility, but in the end she's just tired of Matt's secrets.
>Every single instance of "DON'T KILL HIM, YOU'LL BE AS BAD AS HIM IF YOU DO" didn't pan out as they always do. Frank's "I'm already dead" one is the greatest.

Unfortunately, Elektra's last words were very cliche.
>I now know... how it feels to be good

Fuck, lady, you weren't good, you went out killing people like you always did. The only thing that changed was that Matt admitted he wanted to shag you if you survived.
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>>80909063
I apologize I don't catch every last detail in a 13 hour movie.
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call the ambwamps
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>>80906901
Elektra is cute you fucking faggot
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>>80909189

I was thrown off the first time Mahoney said ambu-lance, and then every other time I feel like was an excuse to hear him say it again.
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>Matt and Elektra letting it all out while she's in his bed recovering

Not gonna lie, I nearly teared up. They had really good chemistry with each other.
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>>80909104
>every last detail
>a major plot thread
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>>80909093
>>Matt and Elektra half naked talking and then sleeping in Matt's living room didn't develop into Karen finding them and assuming he's cheating on her

What? That's exactly what happened.
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>>80909262
I never hear these things. Maybe cause I'm not a native speaker.

I did notice that every time Matt needed to pronounce two r's close together, he skipped one of them. His accent is kind of spotty.
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>>80900072
>implying doggo won't show up in the punisher series netflix is making
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>>80909347
it could be written off as New York accents being weird

which they are
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>>80906901
>>80907015
>it's a Frank's family died episode
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Why is Reyes so hot?
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>>80909346
Not on that scene. She didn't find them napping in their undies, she found them along with Stick when Elektra was wounded.

Hence why she said something along the lines of "maybe you're an alcoholic, maybe you are in a fight club, maybe you're sleeping around, I don't care, I'm tired of the secrets"

Hardly the classic cliches that things like Arrow fall into 3 times per season.
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>See promo with Frank weilding a minigun
>No pic related scene
Seriously, what the fuck guys? I was waiting for it since the start.

Otherwise 9/10
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>>80898453

>The Hand collect everybody who Matt has ever saved

>This turns out to only be like 20 people
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>>80909446
>season
would that we were so lucky
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>>80909469
I guess they were the viable targets at the time.
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There wasn't too many easter eggs this season or am I just blind?
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>dat graveyard monologue
I never asked for these feels
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>>80909104
They literally tell it to you.
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>>80909610
I've heard/read that damn story so many times and it still made me cry like a small child
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>>80909423
the power of HBIC
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>>80908566
In the comics, DD never really attempts to subdue and hand Frank over to justice.

I was really expecting the minigun in the posters and shit to make an appearance during the rooftop fight.
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>goes to Matt's house
>random blind man answers the door
>goes into bedroom
>random lady in Matt's bed
>immediately assume that Matt's cheating and never listen to his explanations

Is Karen going to go down the dead path or the insane path? Because I want it to happen now.
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>SHE'S BARELY TWELVE
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>>80898453

The switch from the Hand plot to the Frank plot was always jarring. I didn't like it. I could have enjoyed the Hand plot on its own, but mixing it with the Frank plot just made it annoying. It's not a good ideal to mix the Punisher's more grounded story with fantasy elements like ninjas. But that's just my opinion.
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>>80909762
anon, she's a Daredevil girlfriend, what do you think
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>>80909818
That's why I asking which path, feggit
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>>80909610
>Not my girl, she was holding me up
Frank pls, just got back to killing Irish mooks.
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>>80909762
>tells Foggy about Elektra
>doesn't tell him about Stick

ONE JOB KAREN
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>>80909850
dating Daredevil is a death...dsentence
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>yfw 12 years old
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>>80909966
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>>80908566
>shoots a couple of ninjas

we saw dozens of ninjas, and dd and elektra didn't fight dozens of ninjas, so I think it makes sense Frank Franked the rest
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>>80909962
Or a "driven insane" sentence. Check out Milla Donovan.
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>>80909966

Frank was completely okay with everything until the word: TWELVE
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>>80909966
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How fucked up will Bullseye be? Hes coming for sure yeah
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>>80910090
>Bendis
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>It's a the producers expect me to believe Clancy Brown isn't the villain episode
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What was better?

Daredevil fucking up all the bikers, or Frank fucking up all the prisoners?
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>>80910281
Still counts, mate.
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>>80910331
I didn't understand what he wanted.
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Stick plays a better blind man that the guy that plays Dare devi
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>>80908464
he might not have ever been good put he's popular and as much as /co won't admit his his name alone sells books
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>>80910375
Frank. I chuckled at how over the top and brutal is was. This season veered into being bloody just for the sake of it many times, but everything about that scene was perfect.
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>>80910375
Well Cox just doesn't have the gravitas and that Bernthal does, so
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Is the secretary going to become a villain?
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>>80908845
they were prepping garrots cause they assumed they were going to be told to get rid of accountant guy, to bad for them boss guy realized they fucked up more getting knocked out like lil bitches by DD
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>>80910476
Money and power, same as always. I remain unconvinced that magic chinese lady couldn't have fucked his shit up for days, but for me it was such a massive red flag when he turned up. Even doing his normal schtick he's so distinctive and memorable I couldn't push it to the back of my mind either.
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>>80910502
It's probably because stick seems to be actually blind while matt has the whole radar sense and shit.

But yeah, that doesn't disregard that the actor has to constantly look dead straight at people since Matt knows he needs to play it up.

also:
>multiple times people lead Matt by his fucking hand and not having him grab onto their bicep
>mfw even karen does it and she's with matt all the time and should know by now
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>>80910566
/co/ admits it we just don't like it
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>>80910502
I liked how different they are with their walking sticks, Matt just moves his side to side gently to not take to much room, Stick just whacks it around like "out of the way morons I'm blind"
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>>80910664
>villain
>not hopefully die in a house fire
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>>80910724
she may have just wanted to hold his hand, anon

girls like that
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>>80910797
fuck that shit Matt would have fucking tripped and hurt himself if he wasn't blind

Seriously, how the fuck does Karen not know Matt can "see" by now?
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Froggy is like a battered housewife. He is just going to go back to that dick Matt again
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>>80910865
How many blind people do you know?
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>he'll be surrounded by criminals
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>>80911011
Two.
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>>80910865
I thought she hinted that she knew he is Dare Devil
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>>80911063
That's weird.
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>>80911106
Nothing weird about knowing blind people, mate. Both of them got it because they were too dumb to listen to the doctor.
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>>80909966
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>>80906047
IT LOOKS AND SCANS FOR THE GIRLS AREOLAS

THEN IT RAISES BUMPS IN THE SHAPE OF HER NIPPLES SO YOU CAN FLICK THEM FOR FUN
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>Luke Cage teaser has Nas playing in the background

durrhurrdurr
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>>80910682
no, they thought they were going to get their pinkies chopped off for their fuckup, but that's because they didn't know boss-man was Hand, not Yakuza
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>>80911580
Luke pulls the quiet cool guy persona well, but either we haven't seen him acting angry, or he's seriously lacking in that department.
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>yfw Shining Star started playing on the radio when Karen is hostage starts the car
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>>80903031

>Ninja Dicking, no less.
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>>80909792
I thought the Blacksmith was going to turn out to be Stick, and was really disappointed and thrown off by the thing with the one-armed guy. Like I have no idea what the logic was in that scene with Karen. I have no idea what connected him to it other than that dead guy and the fact that they Blacksmith's men had good weapons.

It would make more sense for it to be Stick since Stick doesn't give a fuck about people's lives and he was stick-ing it to Gao.
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>>80911902
>Shining Star
I hate itt when the music/needle drops don't last as long as the scene. I loved the intro to GotG because of it.
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>>80900210
I like her character but I hate their romance, it's annoying as shit. I was much more for Foggy and Kate seeing as how they fucking did everything together.
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>>80912043
Oh also, it would have made Frank's appearance to save Matt make a lot more sense if he'd actually been after killing Stick
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>>80912150
*Karen my bad.
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>>80912043
>Stick employing white males to use guns
>having none of them know close-quarters combat
>facilitating some kind of covert drug trade in public where everyone can see
>just bringing in drugs by one pier in the boat


Do you hear yourself? why would you think its him? there is no way I could see a possibility that it is him.
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>>80899255

Moleman confirmed for S3.
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>>80912208
>>80912150
>calling Karen Kate
I DO THIS EVERY TIME SHE'S ON THE DAMN SCREEN

I'm so glad I'm not the only one. No matter how hard I focus I always refer to her in my head as Kate. Why is she so much more of a Kate than a Karen?
>>
I want to protect that smile
>>
Should I watch this? I need something to cleanse my brain after watching all of Arrow.
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>>80912297
>daredevil
>being happy without life kicking him down again

I'll believe that when peter parker is finally happy

>>80912356
This is much better than Arrow, imo.
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>>80912216
To me, as implausible as that sounds, it's more plausible than a guy who happened to know Frank randomly deciding to take it upon himself to smuggle heroin into New York, and being really damn good at it.

Like if the guy wanted to get rich there are a million other ways to do it. Stick would at least have a reason to want to do that specific activity.

I'm not saying it would have been perfect but it would have been better than this guy who has literally only been in one scene prior being the plot twist.
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>>80912356

Do it for Frank.
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>>80912390
>Netflix show is better than a CW show
If you say the opposite you'd be a moron
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>>80898588
Weren't you wondering how they traveled to and from china so fast?
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>>80912356
>after watching all of Arrow.
Oh most definitely
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Only the first 4 episodes were good desu baka senpai
Also why didn't Frank just kill Frisk?
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>>80910797
Fucking disgusting degeneracy. Bring back the comics code authority and ban this filth from television.
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>>80900962
Well, I know he wouldn't see it coming.
>>80902071
I was hoping for that so hard, anon. As soon as I saw dat hand twitch when he saw it.
>>80901334
Man, dat's reasonable as fuck. I love the shit of of JJ but it would be an insult to both shows if I acted like DD wasn't worlds better.
>>80902243
Fuck, I shipped it because I'm trash.
>>80903025
You mean the Punish-mutt? I swear if I don't get that dog in body armor with a gun taped to him I'm gonna be sad
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>>80912273
Idk but I feel like this season tried to have way too much shit packed into it, I think ninjas are just kind of boring antagonists, and stick all he fucking talks about is "DA WAR" it gets SERIOUSLY old.

>>80912356
Yeah, it's really good. Just has some flaws, a lot less than arrow though.
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I am honestly wondering what the final boss of Defenders is going to end up being at this rate.
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>>80906901
Fuck man. I'll take it over that Jennifer Garner shit show.
>MFW I was excited for that movie
>Movie was so bad.
>Started legit reading the comics.
>Now have a love/hate relationship with Frank Miller.
So I guess some good came out of that dumpster fire.
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>>80912356
Why is Arrow so terrible? I liked the first season. But every season after 1 just gets exponentially more and more retarded. What the hell is their deal, seriously?
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>>80912616
Responding to myself because I want to add that this season needed mroe Fisk, he's much more interesting than the protagonists, I always get sick of the Matt Murdock side of the story near the end of thee seasons, it just turns to him fighting with foggy and then them making up.

>>80912734
they try too hard to be batman.
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If Frank showed up a minute earlier Elektra would be alive. He shouldnt have stopped for coffee
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>>80906660
Pretty sure that was Mr. Krabs' Murder Shed and he was gonna murder Karen in it.
>>80906622
>I just hope he doesn't turn my waifu into a junkie porn star
Maybe that was her past and it already happened. There's already hints that she's a high-functioning alcoholic.
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>>80912734
Trying to be Nolan without the Nolan genius.
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>>80912761
You mean the 1960's batman? If so, I agree.
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Will Stiltman rape the secretary next season?
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>>80912851
>rape
>not kill

for fucks sake, /co/
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I thought it was kinda dumb how DD made this big deal out of not killing people when he killed Nobu in like the dumbest way last season and didn't appear to feel any guilt for it.
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When will the Frank series start?
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>>80909966
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>>80912908
Nobu basically killed himself
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>>80912784
In all seriousness though, a great deal of Born Again. Particularly Karen selling out Matt down Mexico way.
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>>80912784
>>80912989
I'm really hoping they introduce Squirrel Girl as Luke and Jessica's babysitter so that we can get this scene.
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>>80898588
>>Step 1: Dig huge hole in the ground

The Technodrome needs a place to hide.
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>>80912908
he didn't. Nobu pulled Daredevil's billy club with the chain -knife into the light. He offed himself and Fisk Gave DD no time to save him.
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>Nobu fucks up Matt real good in season 1
>now just a jobber
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>>80913106
always thought dd threw the thing up into the light, thought the amount of fire that came out was a little ridiculous too.
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>>80913149
Because Matt got better at fighting
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>>80900303
>he doesn't like elektra
>elektra is a shit character
>huntress is a shit character
Mate are you ok??
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>>80913149
Matt got better and he got armor to protect him from the blades, which were what almost killed him the other time.

>>80913247
He was about to throw it/ defend himself, but the blade pulled it into the incandescent bulb, that released a bunch of sparks into a gasoline-soaked floor/ninja robe.

I thought it would've happened by the blade scratching the ground the moment they show it pouring all over.
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>>80913295
So?
Nobu is still too weak.
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I really thought everyone was going to be flipping about the Moon knight connection, is /co/ that casual or we need to wait for more people to finish the season?
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>>80901264
Season 2 of AoS is fine
season 1 was definitely horrible though
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>>80914012
Oh shut up, there is no connection.
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>>80912734
Basically this>>80912761 and this>>80912825. Theyre Green Arrow in name only, and manage to fuck up two of his most favorable villains, Count Vertigo and Merlyn. Heres hoping DCEU picks up Oliver and does it right
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FRANKED
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>We'll never see Cap and Frank in the same room
>We'll never hear Cap say "Stand down soldier"
This kind of sucks. I mean I could give a damn if AoS connected, but sometimes moments like these make me wish the Netflix MCU meant more in the greater MCU.
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>>80909792
The jarring tonal shifts from gritty courtroom drama and what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-vigilante Frankenings to Elektra and the magical ninjas were a huge mark against this season for me.

That said, that almost seemed to be the point. Elektra is the siren tempting Matt away from his stable, good, "day" life to go full vigilante. She's the Black Cat to Karen's MJ. A huge theme of this season was Matt trying to stretch himself between the two worlds and failing miserably.

>>80912043
Could have been really cool. Explains how he funds his crusade and forces Matt to realize he may be the only vigilante out there who sees it his way.
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Funny how Finn Cooley got his face blown off since he has no face in the comics. He probably survived it, then.

Last season they did something similar by having John Healy murdering someone in a bowling alley, when Alvin Healy was a bowling pin juggler in the comics.
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>These torture scenes
It doesn't get any worse, right?
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>>80914600
?
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So did Karen just forget Stick was there when she saw Elektra in Matt's bed?
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I like this Frank. Keep him as the Punisher for anything in the future.
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>A BWOO HOOO FWANK STOP KIWWING THE EVIW CWIME WORDS THEY MIGHT STOP BEING BAD GUYS SOMEDAY!!!! :''''''(
Punisher's show can't come soon enough so I can finally be rid of these fuckng limp-wristed, half-measuring pussies that will never be able to truly solve any lasting problems.
Frank will save us all
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>>80902766
>>80902766
matt can't see tv images though

also what the fuck was up with the farm kids? my assumption is that they were oran farms for nobu's immortality but was that confirmed?
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>>80914600
That prison scene. That would be closest thing to a hotline miami moment I'll see on tv.
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>>80914788
Never outright confirmed

Gotta seed for plot points in Defenders

But all we really know is that they were being pumped full of something toxic and then drained. I'm assuming their blood is being used for the Hand zombie project or some bioweapon they plan to unleash in Defenders.
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>>80898513
kill yourself.
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>>80914697
The torture segments in episode four are pretty brutal.
>>80914847
Haven't gotten that far, now I'm excited. The biker stairway kinda felt like Hotline Miami to me.
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>>80912734
Because the writers have no idea how to write and create conflict between characters. Seriously, anytime anything bad happens in the city, some character will do some mental gymnastics to complain that they are the true victims and that its somehow Oliver's fault.
>Oliver is stuck on a hellish island for 5 years? Thea is the true victim here and its all Ollie's fault
>Tommy dies because of his supervillain father? Laurel is the true victim here and its the Arrow's fault
>Shadow dies because of some terrorist asshole? Slade is th true victim here and its all Ollie's fault
>Sarah dies? For some reason Captain Lance is the true victim here and it's the Arrow's fault
>Ollie almost dies in Nandar Parbat? Team Arrow is the true victim here and its all Ollie's fault

Seriously, people make everything that happens about them and blames Oliver for it and at some point you just don't care anymore about these people with clear emotional maturity problems.
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>Matt, Foggy, and Karen have always been massive fucking unlikable faggots but now that they are side by side with not only Frank, but Elektra and Stick, too, their faggotry is now even more glaring
Make it stop
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>>80915005
There is way too much whining at Oliver, but most of those aren't great examples.

Thea was being a bitchy, spoiled teenaged addict. Thankfully she's had enough character development to stop being Laurel-tier levels of awful.

Slade was off his rocker.

Captain Lance had a right to be angry at them for hiding that from him.
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Personally i disliked how in the end the series seemed torn apart between Elektra's and Punisher's arcs.

Also Punisher arc was much better than Elektra vs The Hand.
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>>80915026
Going to have to disagree with you

Amazingly, Foggy and Karen got loads better this season while Matt turned into the unbearable asshole of the bunch.

It's like a bizarro season 1.
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>>80913149
I dunno, Nobu did a good job fighting Elektra and DD at the same time.

They even played heroic music for Underdog Ninja Nobu.
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besides Nobu killing elektra when it should of been bullseye it was a near perfect season.

I was happy with all the action scenes

Stick was the most entertaining as usual.

Costume has gotten better, and I hope they get rid of all the black shit you see on the torso and pants for season 3

Glad to see Punisher's skull

Glad to see the show not being as Frank heavy as everyone thought it was going to be

Glad to see Daredevil destroy frank in every fight they've been in

Not happy about fucking nobu being the main villain of this season

Was pleasantly surprised to see Fisk for a few episodes

9/10

It does lack cameos though. I want to really feel like it's a shared Universe.

also the Luke Cage teaser was quite rewarding
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>>80913149
Did you miss the part where ski mask Nobu beats the piss out of Matt?
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>>80912043
Because everyone was back this season i thought Blacksmith was the Owl.
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>>80898849
Goddamn this release.

>Comcast dies 4 minutes before it launches so I stayed up till 2am for no reason
>have to take dad to doctor the following morning
>work all day friday and today

I'm watching this too slowly and it's killing me every time I have to stop to sleep or work or some other bullshit

I'm tempted to say fuck it to sleep and watch the next 4 episodes but I work in the morning tomorrow all day
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>>80909572
Stiltman armor in an early episode
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>>80915085
Yea that's true. Still people in that show have a bizarre method of always figuring they're the victims of the plot and that it's somehow Ollie's fault. What makes it worse is that Ollie almost never calls them out on their bullshit which means the writers seem to genuinely believe that he's at fault.

Also Ollie in his show is completely inept at his job compared to Matt. The amount of times an ordinary person manages to hold Ollie at gunpoint is ridiculous and actually breaks the suspension of disbelief of the show. How can Ollie possibly still be alive when some random European guy can throw a syringe at his neck from 10 feet away several times?
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It's going to be really hard going back to arrow and flash after this fucking masterpiece. This isnt some Marvel vs DC bullshit, but DC TV needs to step it the fuck up. Their melodramatic bullshit and unlikable side characters with arrow needs to end. Also The formulaic stories as well as the overly corny shitty villains with Flash needs to stop. They really should be taking notes.
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>>80915559
I think Flash is fine because it's meant to be much more lighthearted and higher-tier of superhero than just the street level. Arrow however needs to seriously re-evaluate the way they operate. Admittedly they have a higher episode quota to fill so they don't have the same budget per episode but they really do need to take a close look at DD and learn what makes that work. DD just blows them the fuck out in everything: plot, characters, fight scenes, everything.
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>It's a "Matt ruins his life episode"

Christ get me off this train.
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>>80915559
The Flash is actually good though. I would say its about equal with DD at this point. It's very different in tone (as it should be) and when its firing on all cylinders it's just as good if not better at times.
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>>80915730
Flash season 2 has had like, two good episodes (the one where Wells comes from Earth two and the one where they go to Earth two). The rest have been pump full of shitty drama. Patty's entire character was nothing more than the writers saying "Well shit now we can't have Iris bitching about how Barry won't tell her he's the Flash, guess we should make a whole new character to cover that role because we need it".

She then fucks off halfway through the season leaving every scene with her fucking pointless. Enraging.

And that's just one complaint of many. As someone who loved Flash season 1, Flash season 2 is definitely drifting towards Arrow territory.

Also also, they fucking reused the same villain plotline from season 1. So fucking lazy.
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>>80900210
I want to feel bad when she gets Bullseyed in S3 (I hope) not feel happy like I would if someone capped felicity's ass
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>>80912784
I was hoping for a fight in the rain

Don't have the picture, but you guys should know
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>>80898588
The Hand should just have been a small part of the introduction of Elektra and once we get to Fisk and Frank in Prison we get Bullseye in the third act of the season. that scene was bullshit. Bullseye kill or no kill at all.
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>>80898907
speaking of her, was she supposed to be the redhead in the last episode?
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>>80915935
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>>80915520
I thought 3/5 of the examples didn't work, but I do agree with your overall point. Too many people dump on Ollie for no good reason so they can force drama.
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>>80915276
>Glad to see Daredevil destroy frank in every fight they've been in
except for the first two of course.
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>Karen's hairy ass arms
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>>80898453
>>80898453
Okay everyone, let's have a vote!

Better / Worse/ Same compared to Season 1?

My vote: Better than Season 1

Reason: All dat Frank
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>>80916216
He still kinda rekt him in both fights. I forgot why he let himself get shot in the first but Im pretty sure he got distracted by something then in the second he was still reeling from the concussion of being shot in the head.
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>>80916227
better. it has a few flaws like no Bullseye and to much Karen bullshit but all in all I loved it.
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>>80916227

Better
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>>80916227
>what is strawpoll
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>>80916227
That biker fight and that prison fight scene put it over the top for me.
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>>80916275
>I forgot why he let himself get shot in the first

he tells Foggy in the next episode that he was to fast and trained that he couldn't react in time. he took a few solid hits that messed with him and he was clearly suffering a mild concussion afterwards which explains the second fight. that said was anyone else wonder why they dropped that little plotline? I mean he wasn't just hurting during the second fight he lost his senses for a bit. that was kind of a big deal and they just drop it.
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*record scratch* WHOA WHOA WHOA, HOL THE FUCK UP

Who actually shot the DA? And the coroner? And shot at Karen?
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>>80916409
The Blacksmith's men
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>>80916333
>That biker fight
god that scene was fucking great. pretty sure it was almost entirely one shot right?
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>>80916409
>*record scratch*
It was the Blacksmith's men, moron.
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>>80916376
I think it was mainly a plausible reason for Frank to be able to tie him up, rather than it being a real plot point.
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>>80916310
>too lazy, you do it
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>>80916437
Just edited together to look like one continual take.
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>>80916437
No.
You can pretty easily pinpoint the new takes.
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>>80916437
If you watch carefully you can see a few cuts, they start to get a bit more common as he goes down the stairs. Still the individual segments are longer than the majority of western shot fight scenes so still an achievement.
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>>80916453
yeah but why make it seem so massive and important only for it to almost immediately stop being a thing?
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>>80915185
>FRANK, DON'T KILL THE GUY YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO KILL ALL SEASON, IF YOU DO, YOU'LL BE JUST LIKE HIM!
Karen is absofuckinglutely unbearable and the show would become 90% more watchable if she was killed off.
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>>80916437
Nope. You can identify rotoscoping by all the mismatched lighting and shadows, and how clear a person or object is outlined against the unlit backgrounds.
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>>80916227
Better I'd say. My favorite episode of the entire show is still probably Cut Man from seaosn 1, but season 2 was just better as a whole.
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>>80916435
>>80916443
Ok i must admit I wasn't as engaged with the latter half of the season as i was with the first 4 episodes and it's pretty late where i'm at.

I have a few questions besides, did we ever understand the mysterious circumstances of Frank's military career? He was black ops right? And his CO was working with the blacksmith i guess? And when the guy who Frank coerced into admitting to being the blacksmith radioed the real blacksmith what did that indicate/ lead to? Also how did the explosion on the boat knock the goons on the dock adjacent to the boat into the water? Also i guess it'll explain whatever truth Karen wanted Frank's CO to reveal about him in Frank's solo show via flashbacks
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>>80912784
I'd like to see this moment
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>>80915185
Matt seemed pretty consistent to me. His moral code and martyr complex never changed. The only time he faltered in the "no killing ever" was on the boat with Frank and even Frank knew that was bullshit and pushed his ass off.

But I don't find Matt's moral code annoying because I don't automatically find edgy, shoot em up shit better than actual humanity. As fantastic as Frank was.
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Does The Hand have a goal beyond "let's take over the world and get power"?

Do we know what the Black Sky is supposed to be?

Why were those immortal-juice producing blood bags so eager to bleed for The Hand? The accountant's son wouldn't have been a true believer. What's in it for them?
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>>80909469
It's only based on the filed reports. Think how many people don't even do that
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>>80900977

Because the Netflix part of the MCU actually cares about stories.
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>>80915919
flash is great but dont call it an equal to DD.
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>white male jury candidates calling Frank a shit
>black female candidates calling him a hero
hmmmmmmmmmm
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>>80916216
what the fuck are you talking about? DD had control over both those fights until Punisher shot him the 1st time and DD was at a disadvantage the 2nd time due to him being shot in the head. He was still obviously beating the shit out of Frank before it.Even the final fight on the boat where there wasnt any excuses showed that DD could take Frank down with ease.
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>>80918242
literally what? What are you saying about it?
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>>80918242
It was Bizarro Day, anon.
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>>80918263
I feel like it was a commentary but I'm not sure on what
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>>80918292
How utterly insightful. They were saying *something*.

Maybe those particular people just had different opinions. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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>>80918316
no need to be a little snot about it
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>>80918316
you know Freud probably never said that right
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Can we all agree Stick is the most entertaining character in the entire series?

Everything that comes out of his mouth is pure gold.
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>>80918242

it literally happens in real life with trump, black women love him but beta white cucks like aids skrillex and carl the cuck hate him
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>>80918446
>black women love him
do you have a single fact to back that up
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>>80918390
Wouldn't matter if he had. I'm just using a common phrase to get across a point. I'm not using Freud's name or his outdated theories to back up any sort of psychological claim.
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>>80910281
>Milla going insane
>Bendis
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>>80918446
That's nowhere close to true, but thanks for playing I guess.

Is this some sort of "I have black friends" thing?
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>>80918464
>inb4 single not good enough goalpost moving

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Efpbq13rA
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>>80918524
"black women love him" suggests a good number of them. "Some black women love him" is completely different. That's not moving the goalpost since your original goal was a general "black women love trump".
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>>80900977
Cause they aren't relevant? But they did name drop JJ
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>>80918573

fucking called it
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>>80898513
Well a lot of Daredevil's season 1 was
>Kingpin season 1: an autist's love story with a lady who loves him because reasons
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>>80918411
I was kinda surprised by how much I liked him in Season 2. He wasn't as much of a dick as I expected, like he was in season 1, and it worked.
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>>80918601
Yeah, you won buddy. You predicted beforehand that your retarded post would be called out so you win.
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>>80918639

stupid libs always always follow the exact same playbook, it doesn't take a crystal ball to predict the obvious
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>>80900210
She's not Felicity she's Lois Lane, putting herself in unreasonable amounts of danger to uncover the truth (sometimes resulting in her damselling in distress), and being completely oblivious to her boyfriend being that superhero she's met several tmes who looks and talks just like Matt.

>>80912150
Yeah it felt like she was drawn to Matt because he's the MC and they needed a triangle plot with Elektra. And because he's attractive.
Could happen, felt a little forced atfer having teased her liking Foggy super hard in s1.
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Foggy was a goddamn boss when he went into lawyer mode.

The first scene with Ruiz specifically was perfect.
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>>80918688
He's right you know, your video doesn't prove that "black women love Trump"-
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>>80901149
>>80901529
Hours later, but here ya go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byCnHikVGEY
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>>80918783
cheeky
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I wanted there to be more Claire. She's great. Hot + snarky + nurse scrubs. Perfect.
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>>80913026
Christ Doreen is thirsty for that devil dick.
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>>80918882
Don't worry, you can have more of her in comics ;) your welcome.
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>Karen is a Frank fangirl
>/co/ still hates her

ya'll just hate women huh
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>>80918954
Nah, Karen's arc was probably my favorite part of the show. Frank and Ellison are both amazing characters, maybe my favorites in the MCU, and it was a really great direction to take her character after season 1.

I'm still really hoping her life falls apart and she becomes a heroin addict in times for a Born Again arc though.
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>>80918954
I still hate her because they killed Ben Urich and made her assume his role even though she has no particular reason to dig into Frank Castle besides "MUH TRUTH".

But not like actually hate hate her if you know what I mean. This Karen is definitely more interesting than comics Karen.
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>>80913068
I laughed. Thank you
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>>80918882
Rosario Dawson has chemistry with literally every character.

I almost began shipping her with foggy after they met.

>tfw the defenders won't be the name for Claire's superhero harem
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>>80919016
She's digging into Castle because she feels guilty over Wesley last season and whatever is in her file. She is trying to prove something to herself.
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>>80919012
That's why everyone hates Claire, right?
>>
WHAT DO THE JAPANESE WORDS ON THE MAGIC SPOOKY STONE URN MEAN?!?
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>>80919066
that just means /co/ loves it when women are just in like one episode.
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>>80915758
Maybe Daredevil isn't for you...
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>>80919066
The moment she gets more screen time instead of being special guest character you women hating fucks will turn on her too

Page and Elektra were great this season, yet here you faggots are singling them out as awful
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>>80916227
Much better. It went full ninja. You never go full ninja.
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>>80898453
Can anyone tell me if there's any explicit sex scenes in this like in Jessica Jones? I still live with my parents and my mom seems interested in watching it with me, but I don't want to if we have to sit through an extremely awkward sex scene.
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>>80919050
If anything, she should be running from Frank like fire not to get punished.

There's something very twisted about how Frank trusts Karen, who is a criminal. It's a proof that his way doesn't work that great.
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>>80919085
"For plastic only"
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>>80918915
Everyone wants to fuck Matt though.
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>>80919050
>whatever is in her file.
I have a theory that Karen was drug addict pornstar in Mexico prior to season 1.
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>>80919102
Not him, but let me enter here.

I disliked Karen in season 1. She was awful. I liked her this season. She wasn't bad.

How about you, anon? Did you really like Karen in the first season? Sometimes, some characters are just awful. Karen was bad before, so it's natural that such sentiments would carry over to this new season. Elektra? The new Karen of this season.
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>>80919118
No, nothing explicit at all.
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>>80919147
can you blame them?
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>>80919151
karen was based in season 1.

>having the balls to kill wesley

shit was great
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>>80919126
Depending on what's in the rest of her file maybe, but just based on Wesley he wouldn't give a shit. Meanwhile, she wants to believe killing a bad person doesn't make you bad, which is why she's so obsessed with the idea of Frank as having a particular code of honor but wanting him to stop.
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>>80909966
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>>80919126
>If anything, she should be running from Frank like fire not to get punished.
They make it pretty clear she somehow thinks she deserves to get punished.

>There's something very twisted about how Frank trusts Karen, who is a criminal.
Yeah it was weird.
>oh you broke and entered into my house, a sanctuary where even I don't dare set foot, wanna be friends?
Then again maybe he has the same moral compass as Matt on that, where if the chick is hot, she's trustworthy.
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>>80898903
Nah, its just a couple of fucks and autists who can't get over Ben.

Karen was the heart and soul of the trio, and I'm glad they found something to do with her character besides being their secretary.

Elektra is better tho. Crazy, but better.
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>>80919167
Good to know, there are mild sex scenes though, yes?
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>>80919189
I liked that more because it didn't fit the cliché of "character who usually doesn't kill willy-nilly has a gun, but the villain can calmly take the gun back because they're panicking". Just for the trope subversion I liked it.
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Matt really sees the best in people, doesn't he?
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Making Elektra work for Stick and member of Chaste was a huge fucking mistake.

Elektra bringing Jack's murderer to Matt's feet was absolutely great, it actually should've been done in season 1 I think. It underlines how Elektra is that darkness that Matt inherently has, but never allows himself to completely succumb. Now it's "lel mission". Why the fuck Elektra was even with the Chaste? Stick knew she was a killer, and a killer of innocents. For Matt it was enough to kill a stripper on accident to get kicked out.
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>>80902862
I always think back to what Kevin Smith said about Batman when it comes to things like this. People like Daredevil really want to kill, but don't want to sink to that level of low. Because of this they go for the next best course of punishment which is, "I'm not going to kill you, but when I'm done you'll wish I had." Matt even admits in S2 that he has to keep making the choice not to kill in every fight. It is clearly a struggle for him.
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>>80918689
I didn't see that romance as a love triangle between Karen, Matt, and Elektra. I thought the purpose was to contrast the two and what they brought out in Matt.

In the same episode we see a lovely, romantic date with Matt and Karen while getting a glimpse at how wild Matt is with Elektra. It further highlights his struggle throughout the season between having a somewhat normal life and doing his vigilante work.
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>got paid to translate 2 episodes of the second season
>got kinda intrigued by the series
>can't watch it because I can't take anything DC/Marvel seriously
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>>80919204
This universe's Frank has a soul though. Alternatively, he bonded with her over his grief.
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>>80919277
You're absolutely correct: they're both different sides of his nature and represent the internal pull in his own soul between light and darkness.
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>>80919190
>but just based on Wesley he wouldn't give a shit.
I don't think Frank supports other vigilante killers.

>>80919204
>where if the chick is hot, she's trustworthy.
I think that's just Matt. He never had mother, so it's enough for a chick to hug him and he will tell her his life's story.
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>>80919277
Sure, the main thing was "who will win the dardevilb owl" though. It was unnecessary shipping bullshit.
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>>80919278
Maybe you get the fuck over yourself?
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>>80919336
>I don't think Frank supports other vigilante killers
His whole introduction was trying to get Daredevil to kill someone. It gets more complicated later on in the season, but there is no situation where he gets upset someone killed a high-ranking mafia official unless he wanted to get there first or he wanted to avoid someone living with grief.
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>>80919342
Maybe Marvel should do it first. And Netflix. Stop shoving interesting plots in otherwise ridiculous universes
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>>80919379
What why?
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>>80919379
I cannot teach him: he is too autistic.
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>>80919392
why what?
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>>80919278
>it's capeshit so it inherently can't be good
Ugh, can you just like... NOT?!
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>>80919405
Because I'm coonfused, of course!
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>>80919379
That's some pretty genuine autism right there, folks.
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>>80916435
I always thought it was Fisk's men. Why would the Blacksmith even come for Frank?
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>>80919278
what language
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>>80919450
i dont know man.

Fisk is too broke to pull something like that off. Maybe it was the military.
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>>80919477
I hate how there are so many points still not addressed, but I guess this means we'll have a season 3.
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>>80919450
They didn't go for Frank, he was tying up all the loose ends? I kept wondering if they were going to bring up IGH from Jessica Jones; they implied it wasn't just a local issue and maybe the colonel was deeply connected. Wouldn't be the first time the government sold drugs in this country.
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>>80919484
Same here. The whole blacksmith shit, Castle's background and what he did.

The whole black sky deal was so vague too. Season 3 cant get here soon enough.
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Is season 3 confirmed? Would Defenders come first?
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>>80909469
>Turk is listed in the file as someone Matt saved without mentioning that he's a criminal Matt has beaten up like 3 times
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>>80919411
My point is that they don't have to make it capeshit. Just make up another world unrelated to anything Marvel and voila, they are no longer bound to a bunch of superpowered clowns in costumes running around and people acting like it's nothing
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>>80919522
They could knock out another season to be released exactly a year from now in 2017.

Defenders still has luke cage and iron fist to premiere before it can roll.

Either we get a JJ season 2 or a DD season 3 before Defenders premiers in fall 2017. If both are made then we may get defenders in march 2018.

Who knows.
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>>80912784
Wait, is Daredevil saying that Bullseye wants someone to kill him? What the fuck?
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>tfw based Hawkeye will never have a proper Netflix series
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>>80919604
>you will never see a season of Hawkeye being a family man
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Karen is gonna be the MCU Typhoid Mary

MARK MY WORDS, ANONS!
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>>80919547
But this show isn't something original. It takes material straight from fucking comics with some changes for the worse, if you ask me.

Matt vs. Frank and Matt vs. Hand wouldn't work any other way but capeshit.
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>>80919699
it is original in terms of superhero shows.
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>>80919670
Typhoid Mary is a mutant.

I wonder if they can cut a deal with Fox in which they will be allowed to use Typhoid Mary without mentioning her being a mutant? Nah, Fox is probably too salty at this point.
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>>80919729
>it is original in terms of superhero shows.
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>>80919732
They don't own the rights to all mutants, and I'm not sure that would even extend to Netflix or whatever the not-TV medium is in legalese.
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>>80919732
>>80919773
Typhoid Mary was in the Elektra movie, so clearly she was included in the Daredevil rights package. Since Marvel got the rights back, that means Typhoid Mary is included.
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>>80900892
Didn't you see the file? it said two people had been in a car crash, the other person was her younger or older brother, judging by age. Survivor's guilt or she's responsible.
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>>80912573
>Well, I know he wouldn't see it coming
kek
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>>80919830
Kek, you watched Elektra movie. Sucker.
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>>80902902
>cap shield is blunt

so is this faggot, doesn't mean shit
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>>80919732
Eden Fesi is a mutant
yet he's now on agents of shite
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Just started it this morning, on episode 2 now.

Bernthal seems great as Frank, but it seemed really out of character the way Frank just started waving a shotgun around in a hospital full of civilians, shooting at the guy through frosted glass and such, so much potential for a stray bit of shot to hit literally anyone else in the building, and given that his family were killed in the crossfire of a mob hit in at least one of his origins, that seemed pretty daft.
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>>80912784
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>>80919919
I didn't actually, I just read Typhoid Mary's wikipedia article
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>>80919979
Yes, god, please, I've been wanting them to do this so badly
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>>80919975
Imagine how many people caught a stray bullet from the guns firing during the fights.
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>>80919975
LE MILITARY PRECISION

Best meme after prep-time.
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>It's a Fisk episode
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When will we get Tombstone? Or Hammerhead? Or the Enforcers?
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>>80920339
save all of them for spidey man.

seriousluy, why would they pop up in daredevil?

its not a wilson fisk situation where the villain got stolen by matt.
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>>80919975
Yeah, it was weird, I get that it's for Drama's sake, but it was bizarre.
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>>80920475
>>80920475
>>80920475

New thread
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>>80902766
The purple man is a different case altogether. For some reason people don't believe in mind powers. Like in the start of agents of shield the only reason coulson didn't believe that there was a real person called the clairvoyant was because people just can't do that. They literally were fighting a man who was shooting fireballs the same episode he said that shit and they have an index of all powered or enhanced people so they know how weird shit can get but somehow people controlling other's minds or having some other psychic gift like future sight is out of the question. In Jessica Jones people like Jessica existing was common knowledge yet no one wanted to believe the purple man could even theoretically exist. I don't think this has ever been explained in either shows why people think that but hopefully that will go away now that both had encounters with that shit and all 3 parts of the cinematic universe experienced it if you count scarlet witch and that mind tampering she could do.
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