Daredevil

I'm at ep.4 right now.

#TeamFrank

Ending of the trial made that episode a Frank/10.

That's not how you rate seasons

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>>80887964
I really hate that trend with Netflix shows which is starting out strong but losing the steam up to the end. Why not make fewer episodes (like 10 or 9), cut the boring crap and increase the fight choreography budget (not that I complain of Daredevil's fight scenes, but they ain't flawless either)?

Bit of a clusterfuck storytelling wise. And the fight/action scenes weren't as good as the first season. Still good though. and Bearball was great.

>>80887964
>Not rating 9-11 10/10

This season does a lot better at staying interesting then 1 did

>>80888095
Not gonna happen
Get ready for 12 seasons of House of Cards!

no really, Kevin Spacey actually said that.

>>80887964
Either a 9/10 or a very strong 8/10 at the very least. The beginning was weak, and there was some weirdness with the Hand plot and the Frank plot not really gelling, but all the individual elements were pretty great for the most part. I absolutely love what they did with continuing all the character arcs from season 1, Karen and Ellison's subplot particularly, and most of the new stuff was really cool, particularly Frank who was excellent.

Frank Episodes: 10/10
Non-Frank Episodes: 7/10
Hallway/Stairwell Fight: Overrated/Season 1
Wilson Fisk: 10/10

>>80887964
Eps 1-4 went from 7 to 10 gradually.
Eps 5-8 went from 6 to 10 gradually.
Eps 9-13 went from 11 to 8 gradually.

Overall, 9/10

>>80888270
Yeah, the one fight they tried to hype ended up being too try-hard. The true successor to that fight is the one in episode 9, where it felt much more natural and brutal.

>>80888333
Nigga's just trying to go down some stairs

>>80888270
>Hallway/Stairwell Fight: Overrated/Season 1
Agreed. Tired of these pretentious bullshit action scenes. The best fight scene was DD vs Nobu from season 1.

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>>80888265
>The beginning was weak

Only two episodes deep
Costume looks retarded but Frank is dope

So seriously guys, where the fuck is the torrent?

>>80888349
>>80888333
>>80888366
I mean, I liked it, but it wasn't any better than the rest of the fights.

It still baffles me that the critics didn't like episodes 1-4, they were clearly the best bunch and most critical to set the themes of the whole freaking show.

Some morons are criticizing this for being Nolanized. Motherfuckers, the problem with Nolanization in the late 00's was that EVERYTHING was being Nolanized. It's a fine to use it here and there. Making everything light and cheery is boring as well. Variety and matching the tone of the characters should be the priority, not comic accuracy.

>>80888374
Episode 1 was by far the worst episode of the series, and 2 was pretty mediocre. It wasn't until 3 and 4 (which were both excellent) that the series really got into the swing of things.

>>80888366
Please tell me what you found pretentious about the hallway scene
I can't see anything pretentious about one guy punching a bunch of other guys

The graveyard scene and frank's speech in the diner made the entire series imo.

>>80888467
And the rooftop scene and the scene in the hospital

I'll add Matt and Fisk's meeting to that as well

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>>80888467
>The graveyard scene

I cried up desu ;_;

>>80888480
>>80888467
Yeah, every time frank was on screen you knew shit was about to happen. It was almost Pavlovian at some point.

Which is why having a punisher show wouldn't work. You don't need to have all the Punisher asking questions and shit. You need the Punisher for the answers.

>>80888290
According to basic math you're rating it 7/10.

>>80888435
Pretentious was probably the wrong word. But the stairwell scene came across as way too try-hard. Like they were trying to top the hallway scene from the first season. Just didn't work for me at all.

>>80888560
Gradual doesn't necessarily mean linear. Also, It might be a logarithmic scale, of which I can choose the base to make the average 9, so yeah, average 9/10.

Theres no overbearing thread like Fisk and nothing emotional. And you don't really know what to expect from it.

First its about copycat vigilant thats better than Daredevil. Then Punisher's origin story. Suddenly Kingpin, followed by other weirdos from season 1. And then it just happens to be the one-handed butler.

All the while Elektra is back in Matt's life, going against Yakuza, thats digging a hole, thats actually the Hand, who all had autopsy, that bleeds children, who turn out to be bodysnatchers, but then Nobu again, who wants Stick, so they can have Elektra, who is actually the Boraku Sky, so she can lead them, but end up killing her, but then they steal her corpse. And Nobu keeps hitting his head, until Stick cuts it off.

Theres a lot more silly action scenes this season. Sharpshooters trying to hit Punisher while he fights Daredevil. Frank's face is smeared, clearly smeared by blood on the shiv fight. Many of the punches have no kick, latest I remember is when Daredevil breaks into Karen's appartment.

And they lost the law firm, again.

>>80888535
Frank would be mostly silent in his own series. He'd be like the main character from Drive without the autism.

>>80888627
Then it gets boring after 2 or 3 episodes. A movie is too short, a show is waaay too long. Especially since you already have his origin in this show anyway.

>>80888270
Frank "Hallway" scene: frankmax/Ennis

>>80888652
Nigga, use your imagination. the screen time would be made upof the police trying to find the Punisher (so some detectives following in his trail) and well written bad guys that set themselves up to be Franked.

>>80888627
He doesn't really do anything clever. Either he shoots through windows or lures people in the open so he can snipe them from the rooftop.

>>80888560
>All I know how to do is average

Also, this >>80888608

>>80888627
A supporting cast and drawing from stories from a time when he acted somewhat human would help.

>>80888719
That's what we'd have so far if it wasn't for this show. Frank works best when he has someone to bounce ideology off of. He's street-level hulk, he has no arc, no moral influence on people like Cap. He's just the terminator save for a few slivers of humanity here and there, which are great, but can't carry a whole season without being repetitive, I don't think.

Plus, they have more creative and interesting characters to explore. Frank can overstay his welcome if not very carefully written.

I understand that he's just starting out, but frank isn't pretty tactical in comparison to punisher max/war zone.

Also, why the fuck did they change the gun scene? Could they not bear to think that daredevil might shoot a guy?

>>80888880
It seriously violates Daredevil's character. Ennis is a punisher fanboy, and makes him right, but Punisher should never be right above heroes like cap or daredevil.

>>80888880
>but frank isn't pretty tactical in comparison to punisher max/war zone.
he's fresh from the war and his valley forge in this show only had 30 guys

>Also, why the fuck did they change the gun scene? Could they not bear to think that daredevil might shoot a guy?
too dark for casual audiences I assume which is absolute bullshit

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>>80888467
>>80888480
>Frank if you keep going that's it, you're dead to me
>I'M ALREADY DEAD

POST YOUR FACE WHEN

>>80888800
Get Ennis in. He knows how to write ground level Punisher the best.

>>80888880
For some reason, that half a second that Daredevil points the gun at Frank before dropping his head, he has such a broken look on his face, it gave me the serious feels.

>>80888968
>tfw she's trying to emotionally blackmail him but he just flat out ignores her

Based fucking Frank.

>>80888880
>>80888958
Plus in this adaption it just looks like he's a 0317 and not full on SOF shitkicker, right?

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>>80888968

Someone needs to make a webm of the first 15 seconds when that female cop gets shot in the vest and falls down like a fucking wrecking ball hit her. It's hilarious how Hollywood still has no idea how bullets work.

>>80888800
>Frank can overstay his welcome if not very carefully written.

They'll go with full on repetitive violence, too many iraq flashbacks or too many family flashbacks

I thought I was going to be disappointed by them not using the skull, but I'm glad they didn't. It's become such a cliche for try-hard edgy teenage fat fucks that I don't think I could have taken it seriously. The way they used it at the end was enough, I felt. Especially because frank was badass enough to earn it.

>Frank killed half as many people in New York by himself as the entire Chitauri army did

The movies are such a joke.

>>80888968
I was so fucking worried that they were actually going to go through with the B-BUT YOU'LL BE JUST AS BAD AS HIM ABLOOBLOOBLOO kind of bullshit

>the door closes, and then bang

>>80889132
You know the numbers on the screen in civil war are and easter egg, right? If you add them all up you get an Avengers issue with the title 'Divided we Fall' title, feautring Zemo as well.

One Batch, Two Batch. Penny and Dime

Daredevil S2 feels a lot like Bojack S2. The original series worked really well as a self-contained story, but once they became seasons of a longer show the writing became less tight and thought out, minus a few stand-out moments/elements. "Here's this new thing" is inherently less interesting than "here is more of that thing." 7/10 in general, Frank gets a 9/10.

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>>80889156
That's fucking dumb. Just put the number somewhere else, not scattered in clips where it's supposed to be meaningful to the overall plot of the MCU thus far.

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I'm on Episode 5 and I could not care less about all this stupid elektra bullshit. Is that seriously the end of the Frank stuff?

If so, fuck this season. I probably won't even be able to bother watching more if it's more of this schlock.

>>80889127
As long as he keeps using it from now on i found it a great way to give meaning to the skull

Much better than the Thomas Jane movie in that retard

>>80889206
I don't think the numbers were meant to be analyzed by anyone that wasn't looking for easter eggs. Like, they are just numbers on screen, like the fact that Ronan's ship coordinates spell 'momscancer' in GotG.

It's a rare case of people only going slightly autistic. No autistic and full autistic would've been fine.

Nice image though, I chuckled.

>>80889253
You're at the lowest point right now. Keep going, I promise.

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>>80887964
Jumped the shark. At least we still have The Flash

>>80889276
How did the Jane punisher do it? I don't remember.

>>80887964
As somebody who never read the comics I was a bit "ehh what the fuck is going on" over the whole Hand and ninja shit, but overall it was still great.

7.5/10, I love how Kingpin just runs the joint inside, and can get out whenever he wants

>>80889253
Keep watching you faggot

>>80889292
Kek, could you imagine?

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>Thomas Jane's face right now

>>80889253
Oh wait until you hit 7-8

>>80889297
He was walking down the street and saw a guy selling a bunch of shirts, the black shirt with the skull on it was one of them, he bought it

I know comics and tv are different mediums, but I feel the idea that Frank can't carry his own show is reducing him to the moment he goes pew pew.

>>80889321
>As somebody who never read the comics I was a bit "ehh what the fuck is going on" over the whole Hand and ninja shit
I don't necessarily blame you for not reading the comics but I want to kill you

>>80889321
He can't get out whenever he wants, you missed the point of why he freed Punisher

>>80889253
Elektra gives me a boner. I love crazy women who just want to fuck after committing crimes.

>>80889352
Ha! Stevenson already had his at the beginning, right?

>>80889377
I thought he freed Punisher so he could go and wipe out all of the other gangs, so Kingpin had no rivals when he decided to leave? He was just biding his time inside, eating steak and shit, until the perfect time to strike

>>80889382
I loved her because she was always lusting for Matt

Then it kinda made me sad because i'll never have a relationship like that

>>80889366
It's not that he couldn't carry a show, but it's an extremely delicate balance to not make it a guy mowing down everyone over and over. Remember that most of his pathos was already explore here, so scenes like the cemetery one were to repeat themselves, it'd be too emo a show for frank. It's possible, but it requires multiple lightnings in a bottle. Also, it's better to be left wanting for more than let it rot before your eyes.

I liked that it was not about a singular threat, since it shows that things aren't always about a BBEG trying to kill everybody.

I liked the first act and its ending in the graveyard. I loved the back and forth between Frank and DD.

The second act felt the weakest. Elektra was a huge asshole the entire time. It was hard to give a damn about her as the stuff wore on.

Stick dropping by to pour exposition all over everyone was boring. Shame since I like the character, I just cannot give a shit about the Hand nor can I really take them seriously since ninjas are right up there with zombies and androids for disposable henchmen often not booked right.

Brett is apparently the only goddamn cop in the city. What happened to Detective Thicker Than My Dick?

The Blacksmith reveal really pissed me off. That's a lot of bullshit coincidence to swallow at one time.

Foggy was actually competent and I liked that. Karen was pretty smart although she seemed way too invested in everything. And poor Claire constantly getting fucked with by superheroics. I hope she gets a happy ending eventually.

>>80889352
>>80889297
His son bought it for him.

>>80889405
Kingpin wants to get out "legally" so he is not a wanted man.

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>>80889413
>Then it kinda made me sad because i'll never have a relationship like that
I'm with you pal.

>>80889352
Actually, his son gave him the shirt. Had some voodoo connection or something.

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>>80888968

>>80889449
Ah ok that makes sense

>>80889413
>Then it kinda made me sad because i'll never have a relationship like that

bro ;_;

>>80889395
Stevenson started as already being the Punisher for 5 years and he had the skull painted on his vest/punisher suit like Bernthal

>>80889405
That's part of the reason, but also because they would kill each other in there eventually.

He can't leave, his magic money only does so much, his black bussinessman said that

>>80889447
>What happened to Detective Thicker Than My Dick?

This. That guy was based

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Way worse than the first season. God, the fighting sucked. You could tell the strikes weren't hitting and he wasn't even punching and kicking hard. There's part on that fight in the building where he touches the other guy with his foot and the guy drops on the floor.

The overall plot sucked as well. Frank and Elektra just didn't connect. Two separate things that didn't make any sense when thrown together in the same season. Should've just been DD and Elektra vs The Hand or DD vs The Mob while defending Castle as Murdock. Trying to mix the two was disastrous.

Every time ninjas showed up it was boring as fuck. "Another ninja fight? ok...". I felt like skipping parts after episode 9 or so. Also, the whole thing of keeping the fans at bay to give the character his costumes only in the last episode for a few seconds is already getting pretty fucking old and annoying.

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>>80889468
>you will never have a qt3.14 billionaire ninja girfriend who wants you was much as you want her, both sexually and emotionally

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>>80888467
>The graveyard scene

>>80889447
>ninjas are right up there with zombies and androids for disposable henchmen often not booked right

You must have hated the Hand then as they are basically all 3 of that combined

>>80889512
The only thing that disappointed me was the finally, they should have made Frank have a bigger impact there

>>80889433
The problem is that we're caught up in character arcs, we've forgotten episodic storytelling and series characters.

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>Episode 1-4
Frank/10

>Episode 5-7
8/10

>Episode 8-10
YOU EMBARRASED ME. YOU EMBARRASED ME IN FRONT OF HER/10

>Episode 11-13
9/10

Also, post yfw
>There's only one kingpin

Someone should edit the first episodes together to make a Daredevil & Punisher movie. Up until the graveyard part that's pretty much what it was.

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>>80889589
I was expecting him to show up and blow the fuck out of those ninjas. But nah. It was hilariously bad how DD and Elektra were surrounded and then they showed an entire army of ninjas and when they came out there were only a few of them and the ones there were coming from downstairs didn't even show up.

That was the perfect opportunity to get franked up.

>>80889596
But episodic story content for Frank would just be reverse CSI.

>>80887964
I'm up to Franks trail atm, got to say that I'm actually quite enjoying Matt and Elektras chemistry and their spy missions are pretty fun, it's got a Mr & Mrs Smith vibe to them.

Frank as usual remains based.

>>80889253
No one likes a quitter, you gigantic parading faggot

Talking about the future
Talking about a happy future
Talking about a happy future with Elektra
Matt Murdock talking about a happy future with Elekta

I have never seen a bigger death flag in my life.

>>80889654
Yeah, he had a fucking minigun for shit's sake, he didn't even use it

I liked how he blew up his home at the end to show Frank Castle was dead for good and he was now the Punisher

>>80889751
Nobody expected her to survive past one season anyway. Heck, I was surprised she managed until the last episode.

>>80889655
Or The Equalizer. I get that Ennis is the best thing that happened to Frank, but having read some of his older stories, he seemed to be up to a lot more. I do admit comics with the unlimited budget nature does allow for a lot more than what live action can offer in an hour.

>>80889654
>>80889754
Minigun ammo aint cheap.

neither are ninja extras. budget is always going to be tight on these things.

>>80889794
She is obviously coming back as a Hand zombie

>>80889823
Like money is an issue to Frank, whenever he needs it he just probably shoots up the local mob house and steals their cash

What is up with the hindsight attitude towards the skull?

Anything with Elektra
>Boner/10

>>80889841
I don't think she comes back soon. Next up will be born again, and that's only after the defenders.

Can't wait for Iron Fist, though. Madam Gao seems pretty fucking awesome. I love calm unbothered villains.

>>80889952
what do you mean?

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Post your face when...

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>>80889958
How would they even do Born Again? Isn't Captain America essential to the plot?

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>>80889993
pretty much

>>80889993
All I could think of "I'm pretty sure they watched The Raid 2 before they made this"

>>80890037
hehe

>>80889977
I've seen it discussed as if it's a superfluous part of the character, how it being there somehow degrades him like the white boots and jumpsuit people want to deny ever existed.

>>80889794
it surprised and disappointed me, I thought they would it next season with Bullseye.

FRANK ME UP

CAN'T FRANK UP

FRANK ME UP INSIIIIDE

Did you guys like Bernthal's Frank?

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>>80889993
MAXIMUM FRANK

>>80890105
I thought they were building up to Bullseye as the person who was setting up Frank for the death of the DA.

>>80890018
replace him with the Punisher, really. Have one of them whistle the star spangled man with the plan.

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>>80890018
Your fucking face when they do those panels

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Post yfw the potato eaters threatened Frank's doggo

>>80890091
It's just that the skull has been so ingrained in pop culture by tryhard faggots on /b/, that it became a parody of itself. It's basically a sign for teenage anger now.

>>80890105
No reason they can't do both. Have Karen killed instead of elektra, and make Murdock end up with Claire. Might be a bit muddled though, but replace Urich with the new reporter, Cap with Punisher and you can even set up the Punisher to go after Bullseye for Karen after daredevil succeeds in not killing him. After this season it'd all make sense.

>>80890133
I'll be honest, I didn't like his casting initially and hated how he looked in the set photos. But Bernthal killed it, he was easily the best part of the season.

I'm not finished yet, but every scene that does not feature Frank was wasted potential

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>>80889993

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>>80890227

>>80890233
Nah, it's the calm before the storm, man. This way, you subconsciously are associating BErnthal's face with hype. They are pulling a Pavlov on you.

>>80890227
I was seriously 100% about to lose it. Mainly because this is Netflix so I was pretty sure they would go there.

Frank's face in that scene is heartbreaking

>>80890233
Elektra was generally a drag on the season

Would have been happier if it was just Matt and Stick vs Nobu

>>80890091
It's really not. It makes perfect sense. A guy like him needs a symbol. Something to inspire fear and send a message. Something to be easily associated with him. Like the military use skulls, dogs and stuff like that Frank also uses one. Makes perfect sense.

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>>80890227
>They never said what happened to the dog afterwards

>>80890307
The dog has become strong by Frank's presence and wins all the dog fights until Frank comes back to save him. That's why he didn't minigun the ninjas, he saved the bullets for the bigger cunts.

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Did anybody else feel like Frank didn't get his climax? He shows up, snipes two ninjas and go away. I was expecting him to cause a fucking massacre by the end since the first episode. There wasn't much PUNISHER in this season. The character really didn't pay off in the end. No climax.

>>80890227
That whole scene was great. Frank's voice went extra gravelly for the rest of the season, he started limping menacingly, and he cocked the shotgun not by pulling the forend back, but by pushing the whole thing forwards.

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>>80890307
He'll be back

>>80887964
I hate the punisher but this is the best one done. I like that he has brain damage, makes more sense for him being a psychopath.

But i prefer the Elektra stuff. And fucking finally get to see them in trial! Hates that last season there was almost no lawyering in trial.

>>80890346
>There wasn't much PUNISHER in this season.
Well the name of the show is Daredevil

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>>80887964
>mfw Fordham law grad, class of '05
>mfw corrupt DA is a Fordham law grad and gunned down wearing a Fordham hoodie

>>80890508
Elektra please go, no one liked you.

>>80887964
you have to split it up more than that

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Who /watched season 2 in one sitting master race/ here?

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>Karen gets into her care at gunpoint
>"You're a shining star"
>mfw

>>80888270
I don't like Wilson Fisk's role in s2. Sure, it fits very well with his comic book counterpart, but for me it feels like they were trying to make him a more down to earth character in s1 instead of someone who can just snap his fingers and magically gets someone to obey to him. I can suspend disbelief for parts of the story that don't take themselves too seriously, but not something the writers tried to make grounded in the first place.

>>80890678
I tried so hard. I really did but I conked out at episode 9

>she's barely 12
>get the mutt

some people really don't like being alive.

>>80890602
Go back to your corner Garner

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>>80889993

>>80889993
I realized they just love long hallway fight scenes hope they mix it up in a possible new season

>>80890707
>someone who can just snap his fingers and magically gets someone to obey to him

He didn't get loyalty from nothing, he paid everyone(police and prisoners) and went broke to do that

>>80890713
>she's barely 12
I felt bad for that dumb fuck

>>80890877
I want them to redo it in Luke Cage.

Luke comes into the same hallway as DD did in S1. Russians notice him try to punch him or grab his legs to slow him down. One of them shoots but only manages to hurt his buddies.Everything is useless, Luke carries on as if nothing is happening. One Microwave is thrown at him, any guy that stands in front of him he just genly pushes aside against the wall, never averting his gaze or his pace. He enters the room at the end and instead of carrying out a kid, he asks. Where's my money? He walks back out and steps on the door to break it.

>>80890971
Luke is a boring character

>>80890971
That would be a god character established scene in ep1

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>MY SON DANIEL
>MY DANIEL
>DANIEL
>DANIEL
>MY DANIEL

Got so hyped thinking we were going to see Danny Rand, but it was just some random fuckboy

seriously, they couldn't have given him another name?

>>80891023
i'll be honest, I know nothing of the comic book character, just what I've seen in JJ and yeah he really seems bland. Generic strong character. Frankly JJ seemed pretty boring as well

>>80888968
Karen was really good this season. If they reduce her to the prostitute heroine thing I will bomb disney

>>80891118
Danny doesn't have a dad anymore, mate.

>>80891133
Daredevil himself as a character really isnt all that interesting either, its becoming a problem with these shows.

>>80891156
>>80891133
Daredevil is at least more visually appealing, and he has good villains, so he's interesting in the same way Batman is.

Luke is a harder sell because he's basically invincible so there'll be little stakes. He works wonders as the straight man, but solo he's a bit non-existent.

Jessica isn't interesting because she was created to develop a villain story. Alias isn't about JJ, it's about purple man. The way to keep her character moving forward is to make another psychological thriller but revert the trope. I posted a pitch here in some thread about how they could use the chameleon for a JJ villain.

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>>80891156
>tfw Ollie is the only interesting live action superhero

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>>80891240
>Ollie is the only interesting live action superhero

That's not how you spell Barry

>>80891156
yeah I'd agree with that to an extent. I came into the show not really knowing much about the character except that he was blind and wore red.

My eventually reaction to him was that he was basically Batman but with better senses. But I like Batman so it was easy for me to get past that. When presented with LC though its just welp hes strong and really its about the villains creative ways to hurt him.

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>>80891272
>I came into the show not really knowing much about the character except that he was blind and wore red.

where do these fucking people come from

currently on episode 9.
jesus christ foggy is reaching felicity-tier.

The episode with the biker gang fight and the one with Frank's trial were 10/10

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>>80891118

>>80891301

Matt fucked him over though

just dissappeared to crawl up Elektra's ass for a week and left Foggy to handle the case alone. Matt deserved to get shit for it, he's a fucked up asshole

Does Netflix Daredevil not have Radar sense? How come the ninjas can sneak on him just by stopping their heartbeat or whatever?

>>80891297
sorry but he always got out-shined by X-Men and Spider-Man where they offered a plethora of at least more visually interesting characters.

I'd rather watch Spider-Man chase Carnage around NYC than Matt Murdoch make love to a woman who uses sais

>>80891229
Its like you never read Alias. Only 1/4 of the comic even references purpleman. Just as many pages is given to the spider woman MGH story. Purpleman was around a long time before that story and all it did was make him less cartoon and more of a psychopath. The story is about JJ.

Sounds like you never read it and are pretending to based on your knowledge of the show.

>>80891301
Foggy is just tired of being the one keeping N&M afloat while mat is being Elektra's dog. Seriously he built a whole case of proving that a dude that murdered 30 people was innocent, and he almost won were it not for Fisk.

>>80891371
He does, it just doesn't show up in CGI. They use the world on fire analogy. And they don't make a sound and use soft clothes that mask their position. They are fucking ninjas.

>>80891371

Matt said he can't get a read on them, they don't have a loud heartbeat and maybe that's because they are ninjas that have literally already died and had an autopsy so they don't have a heart. Not sure if that's the case for every single one. But Matt said he can't hear the heartbeat so Stick told him to listen for an exhale

>>80891301
On the same episode, Matt deserved it, he basically ruined Foggy's career for a client he never wante to take, in a trial he doesn't even worked on.

>>80891301
>jesus christ foggy is reaching felicity-tier.
Foggy is literally the only reasonable person in the season. Matt is the one who keeps fucking his shit up.

Remember, this whole case was Matt's idea in the first place and here he is trying to keep together while Matt goes faffing around with Elektra. Where does that lead him? Getting shot Foggy did more for the Frank case than anything Matt did

>>80890678
Yo. Kind of regret it now, since there was nothing except Elektra's death that could've been spoiled for me, and I have no more sweet Frank action to see.

>It's another foggy and karen scene
Just kill me

>>80891400
I did read it. All the introductions were building up to having the purple man reveal, what are you talking about? She goes on cases to display her PTSD, but everyone acts weird around her and it raises her suspiscion. It's about the effect that Purple Man has on people, not just the character. It's not a detective run for the sake of it, man. Just because the reveal happens late in the game it doesn't mean it wasn't the purpose of it all.

>>80891380
>out-shined by X-Men and Spider-Man

Frank Miller's DD is one of the greatest capeshit runs of all time. Get the fuck out of my face. Don't even come around here and bother discussing this shit until you've at least set foot in a comic books store

How the fuck is Karen still alive?! She either kidnap or shot at for like the whole show.

>>80891371
>How come the ninjas can sneak on him just by stopping their heartbeat or whatever?
They do not make sounds period. You need sound for radar sense to work (and I'd guess their scents aren't easy to work with either). That's why Elektra says listen to the weapons.

They're fucking ninjas man

>>80891464
No.

>>80891156
I like that they showed a good bit of Matt's dark humor as Daredevil in this series. The sub-par Elektra stuff was worh it for Matt developing into a more comfortable, swashbuckling hero.

>>80891478
You'd need sound to bounce off of them, not them producing sound. But they are wearing soft clothes and are absorb most of it, I'd assume.

Elektra wasn't sai'd by Bullseye.

What blasphemy is this?

>>80891540

I like that he did toss Nobu off a roof though, kind of a reference to Bullseye

>>80891540
Wait who's bullseye?

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See you around, Red
>tfw

>>80891540
She'll be back

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>>80891578
>who's bullseye

>>80891540
This. They could've had her and Matt have a bit more of an affair and get their happy ending before Bullseye comes along to fuck shit up in S3. Would've made the hit hurt more.

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>>80891578
Christ almighty

>>80891578
fuck off redditor

>>80891578
Deadshot ripoff

So the Hand worships the "Black Sky" instead of The Beast? Weird change.

>>80891597
Yeah, I don't know what they were thinking. Unless they plan to resurrect her only to be killed again by Bullseye.

slogging my way through s1 for this. my biggest worry is not getting to see Bullseye do "I'm magic" am I SOL or hold out hope?

>>80891578
Evil Hawkeye

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Do you want the DDD /co/ ?

>>80891118
I was scared not hyped because that would have been a really shit backstory. Thank god it wasn't though.

>>80891626
>resurrect her only to be killed again by Bullseye.

No, she'll just come back permanently, and probably be in the Defenders

>There will never be a turtles daredevil crossover series where the foot and hand is reveled to be part of a bigger organization.

>>80891658

no

I want that big guy Wilson Fisk

>>80891792
>The Torso
>The Legs
>The Arms
>The Neck
>The Head
why live?

>>80887964
I liked it more than S1
I thought it felt tighter. Having more characters and plot threads that actually mattered really upped the pacing from S1. It still sadly went with journalist-Karen, which mostly just feels forced and lazily written, but I suppose it's a necessary evil if they really want to give their version of Born Again impact. And really nice that they hinted at it coming for S3 that heavily.

Both Electra and Frank was the best part of the season by far. I knew that Frank would be good, but was a bit scared about Electra. But holy fuck, she delivered.

Ending battle was too quick. Which I don't understand. It only was about 10 minutes. They should have fleshed it out more and have given Frank a bigger role. Pissed that there were 0 interaction between Frank and Electra. It would have been interesting.

And why the fuck did they show Frank with a minigun in the promo material if they weren't going to use it? That's just mean. Like watching a 20 minute blowjob-scene, only for them to have cut out the money shot.

Overall 9/10

And fuck you. I like the new suit. It works great in motion.

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>>80891792

>Foot, Hand, Arm, Leg, Head, and Torso all combine to form the ultimate ninja army: the BODY

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>>80891832
>The Hips
>10/10 ninja milfs

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>>80891824
>>80891832
damn nigga they bringing TORSO into this shit!

How has an organization as powerful as the Hand possibly managed to stay secret for so long?
In the comics people were at least aware that they existed.

>>80888505
I shed a tear.
It hasn't happened because of fiction since middle school.
I don't even agree with Franks views on crime.
One batch, two batch
;_;

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>>80891540
You can't introduce Frank and Bullseye in the same season. He needs to be wrecking havoc for seven or eight episodes

>>80891156
Lol.

He is one of the best characters in superhero fiction. Eat shit. Casual.

>>80891860
>Elektra keeps comin back from the dead as a member of each orginization only to get stabbed and die again

>>80891962
I meant in the show sperglord

>>80891962
>triggered

>>80891764
Or she'll be the villain of the Defenders, leading the Hand.

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>>80892020
>>triggered

>salty

>>80891928
They've been mistaken by yakuza and kept silent most of the time.

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>>80891860
They should at least have a reporter in a yellow jumpsuit in the background.

>>80892101
>jumpsuit
>2016
What is this, Venture Brothers? Do people irl still wear these?

>>80891832

>then BODY joins up with SHIELD and SWORD

Is it me or did Charlie's accent slip a lot more this season than last? Every other line it seemed that I could hear it.

>harlem terror
>battle of new york

>dat episode 5 ending though

Has Matt made any attempt to help Melvin at all?

>>80888505
Didn't cry, but it was compelling. Shane was been a great Frank so far.

>>80889321
Agreed. I don't know too much about the Hand, but it was all a bit vague. My guess is that it will be brought back for either Daredevil's next season or The Hand might be one of the leading villains for The Defenders.

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>>80889794

I fucking did.

She should be killed by Bullseye and Bullseye alone. Season 3 shoulda been about him. The worst thing Hells Kitchens ever seen. He kills Elektra, and Matt drops him to his death in the finale. It'd be the one bad day Frank talked about. Instead shes killed by Nobu. Some nobody jobber Ninja that dies every time he shows up. Great. Theres your nemesis Daredevil!

She had no reason to die now. It felt like she only died because "Well thats what she does in the comics!" without actually thinking about why it happens and what it does to Matt. Yeah she'll come back. But what, are they just going to have her die again?

>>80891118
That shit confused me so fucking much. Fucking writers.

>>80889292
I dunno about DD jumping the shark but we can forever take solace in the fact that the Flash has jumping King Shark

>>80892256
He put Kingpin in jail

>>80891240
Felicity's mom has a more intrigue character than Ollie. He is seriously the worst character in his own show.

>>80892317
I agree with everything you said. I really liked this season, but the final disappointed me.

they could redeem themselves a little bit if they still do Bullseye and have him kill Karen instead

>>80892375
>He is seriously the worst character in his own show.
He's neither the worst character and it's not his own show. Both belong to someone else. Something else.

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>>80892343
True, but I don't like how they keep mentioning his missing girlfriend or whoever and not showing Matt trying to do anything about her
>pic related
What I thought was gonna happen this season

Why the fuck does Turk keep getting parole and house arrest? Why hasn't he been thrown in prison for decades like all other black criminals? He's a repeated offender

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do you think season 3 will do the porn actress on heroin Karen storyline?

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>>80891118
>Got so hyped thinking we were going to see Danny Rand
That is your own fault for not keeping up, the actor that will play Danny Rand was just signed.

>>80890233
Disagree. Too much of a good thing is definitely possible and I think they used him the perfect amount of time.

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>>80892447
>Elektra gets lightning font
Sure, I guess

>>80892447
I was surprised he was brought back actually, thought he would just be a one off character. His continued presence on the show makes me thing they are building up to Gladiator.

>>80890346
Frank's climax is episode 4 when he blows that guy's face off. Everything after that is Hand Ninja stuff which is fine by me.

>>80892138
Can you seriously not spot April O'neil?

>>80889253
Oh, fuck off. Elektra is that girl you love who you know is terrible for you, and do your best to avoid but can't resist. She and Matt are electric together on screen. Frank will almost assuredly be back, but for the time being I'm enjoying the Elektra stuff so far. I'll admit that S2 is not as refined as 1, but it is still great.

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>>80892425

Nah Karens got to do Born Again. Elektra dies, Matt fucking kills Bullseye and is basically at his lowest point. Then Karen spills the beans and Fisk comes in to ruin him even further in season 4. Its all about breaking Matt down, pushing him to the very limit of his sanity. Which would make his eventual rise all the more satisfying. Ideally it'd be the final season but I dont know how long they're planning on making these shows last.

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>>80892334

>>80892447
Betsy is clearly safe Seeing as Electra gets the armor he made for Betsy

>that season finale

fuck my dick, my heart was pounding so hard.

So Frank knows Matt is Daredevil now? I guess he still "doesn't care", but he must have seen him in the scope.

>>80892511
>His continued presence on the show makes me thing they are building up to Gladiator.
They must be, his workshop is filled with sawblades that he picks up in almost every scene he's in and a big ass gladiator poster. Also STILT-MANS SUIT

>>80892540
>I lack reading comprehension

>>80892511

Fisk will have his wife killed and he'll go ape on Matt.

>>80892253
How did episode 5 end?

>>80892472
But who is DD going to bully for information if Turk is in the slammer?

>>80891447
if Foggy was Felicity tier he would have won the case by himself, beaten up a bunch of Hand ninjas, gotten paralyzed by Nobu and then week later told Matt "i'm sick of this shit" and gotten up and walked away, even though he couldn't walk the day before.

>>80888270
how about that Prison fight

>>80892472
Probably rats on people.

>>80892429
lel

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post yfw Daredevil, Frank, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, and Iron Fist show up and join #TeamCap

post yfw Coulson and his team + Deathlok show up and join #TeamIronMan

>>80892472
anon, Turk exists to suffer

just finished it.
was a bit meh, but better than Jessica Jones (sat through the a week ago, god what a waste of time.)
Wilson Fisk scenes were imo only good bits. (okay Foggy had a few good scenes too, much better than S1)

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>one year until season 3

Why is this allowed?

>>80892598
She will get Cancer and kingpin will blame Matt and Murdoc for robbing him of his time with her.

>>80892643
>Deathlok
please stop reminding me,please

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>literally no villain
hype out frank will frank daredevil out
frank train ended in episode 5-6 with a nods respectfully moment at the end
wish they just went with the whole wilson was behind it all
>literally 2 episodes of courtroom drama
wew lad
>nobu is literally discount nobu from season 1
why even have him at all if he just jobs out too much
>fucking jessica jones cameo from a character no one even cared about just to remind us that garbage show was relevant
>yfw she still has her fucking job after all the bullshit """""""she""""""" did

season 2 is 7/10 at most from a 10/10 season 1

>>80892643
MovieMarvel likes to pretend TVMarvel doesn't exist.

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>>80892671
no

>>80892643
Post your face when Matt ends up in Cellblock D and Iron Fist pretends to be Daredevil for three episodes.

>that one reviewer that said the season is bad because frank doesn't do enough violent stuff
this might be the most violent show I have ever watched actually, shit was like a slasher movie

>>80892690
thats why it will be so amazing when it happens anon

nobody will go in to expecting to see tv characters

and then all of a sudden, daredevil bounces a billy club off caps shield so it ricochets and knocks out iron man

poetry

true justice

>>80892659
Season 3 isn't even confirmed yet anon. We might get Iron Fist next year instead.

>Daddy's too tired

God damn I can't take this.

Why cant negroes say ambulance?

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>>80892695
why do you hurt me so?

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>>80892727
WHO DO I HAVE TO KILL?

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>yfw

>>80892735
you would be labeled a race traitor, much like how french people have to smoke and indians can't use deodorant

>>80892735

AMBALAMPS

when brett was assaulted - and it turned out to be the ninjas wanting list of people Daredevil had saved.
Was I alone in thinking, that brett being assaulted was a result of kingpin?
He asked the lawyer for files on murdock. Fisk looking into daredevil and realizing the people daredevil has saved all seem to live in a small area or are related to murdock etc.

I thought this was going to go down this route, leave a nice cliffhanger for season 3 that fisk might suspect murdock as daredevil or something... disappointed that it was just the ninjas in the end,

>>80892688
>literally 2 episodes of courtroom drama
You mean two episodes of Matt is a fuck up.

>>80892630
Ratting on people is the quickest way to ensure you'll get killed. At the very least nobody will ever buy weapons from you again.

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>>80892690

>Still no Avengers tower in skyline shots

All it needs is a jpg spliced into the footage. You can do it in minutes. Hell. fans have done it.

>>80892727

Why not both? C'mon Disney, throw some money at it.

>>80892798
Unless you're the master rat.

So the way he tells it. He gets home, and is too tired to read the story. And then the very next day they go to the park and that's when everything goes down? So basically Frank didn't even get 2 full days with his family after he got back?

>>80892786
>all seem to live in a small area
Yes the Devil of Hells Kitchen saves people that lives in Hells Kitchen. Will you be surprised when Luke Cage who works in Harlem, mostly saves people in Harlem.

>Turk turning on his house arrest beacon
What a nice guy

>>80892727
They need to do Bullseye if they want Daredevil to be remembered.

>>80892836
Yup

>>80892812
that's too simple, you need to work for your easter eggs
it can be seen on the cover of one of the news papers

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>>80892742
it could be worse anon

>>80892837
theres more evidence though.
Fisk might notice he doesn't seem too inept/blind t his surroundings.
That punch he received might have seemed familiar to a punch given end of season 1.
People affiliated with murdoc and co are often rescued.
And specific streets, areas are protected. Pin point the areas of each crime and create a heatmap.
I just think it would have been an interesting road to go down.

>>80892827
Disney is being autistic about release date even thought the original plan has changed. I remember hearing that Luke Cages show is basically almost done already, but they wont launch it until fall because reasons.

If they keep putting out only 2 a year and adding seasons to the ones that are popular, this Defenders thing is going to take forever.

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>Owlseys son finally shows up
>Doing some shady shit, making a name for himself to become a boss
>Daredevil shows up and is about to beat him up
>He flies away

>>80888402
daredevil gets a better costume after frank shoots him in the face

>>80892612
That was Matt going to Elektra's, asking about the mansion, hearing the Yakuza coming up, and trying to tell her to fuck off, before Elektra tells him to suit up.
It was a classic cliffhanger out of the books.It was great.

>>80892688
The courtroom with Frank was actually good I thought, and the shit with Electra an Matt being fuckups was boring as piss

>>80892904
I got the feeling Fisk is suspicious after that punch, and thats part of why he wants information on Matt. Just a feeling I got from that scene.

Why didn't we just get the first 6 episode stretched out as a 13 with DD hunting Frank cause Wilson fucked him over while inside his cell
They shoehorned Elektra too much and her involvement wasnt even that relevant or good
>ima stab you mathew
>obvious body shield and gets stabbed
the boring end scene was saved by a 6 second frank appearance

Karen and Frank are more interesting together than Karen and Matt desu.

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>stayed spoiler free of daredevil season 2 the entire time
>was hoping for punisher and bullseye
>fuck yeah punisher
>his story mostly ends on episode 4
>elektra
>no not elektra

am i the only one that fucking cant stand the elektra character

fuck im so bored already

punisher should have been the entire season

elektra doesnt matter

>>80892688
>jessica jones cameo from a character no one even cared about
I was confused, I thought she died in that
shows you how much I was paying attention to that piece of shit show

>>80893002
I was at least expecting her to have scars/bandages from the "1000 cuts."

>>80892688
>fucking jessica jones cameo from a character no one even cared about
are you high?

>>80892986
>Fank ends in episode 4
Frank, do you even Frank?

Seriously
Groto scenes were a 10/10
Frank scenes were a 16/10
Nobu scenes went from 10/10 from season 1 to jobber/10
Stick scenes from clueles stunt/10 to feasible stunts/10
Elektra and Matt scenes 4/10
Karen scenes whythefuckisshestilldoinginvestigativeshit/10

>>80892986
Jon Bernthal's Frank stole the show.

>>80893050
They want all the episodes to be majorly about Frank

>>80893070
So they don't understand that you have to diversify your story to appeal to a wide audience? Are they autistic or something?

>>80893097
Do you really have to ask?

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>>80893070
I can frank what these franks are franking.

Post your frank when no good shots at the end of the frank where you can see frank's painted bulletproof frank.

>>80891792
The Hand above

The Foot below

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>>80893097

>>80893097
>appeal to a wide audience
It has the "Marvel" sticker slapped to it. They don't need to appeal to a wider audience-- they already did it.

Are you faggots fucking kidding me? I loved the entire season, thought others felt the same, but of course /co/ has to shit on it

>first Turk scene
Why is Matt such a bully?

>Daredevil suddenly okay with Frank killing guys
why did the writing went to shit

>>80892911
They'll probably put the Daredevil team working on the defenders. That'll be just 8 episodes but it'll need more CGI and a bigger feel to it.

I'm Sure Iron Fist will satiate the need for spring kung-fu

>>80893097
>diversify
>all episodes of daredevil season 1 are about fisk
>all episodes of jessica jones are about kilgrave

>>80893145
>they already did it.
It's called preserving your brand.

>>80893164
They've been setting up that Matt's way doesn't work the whole season.

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>>80889993

>>80893164
Remember whe he told Frank that his way doesnt work?

>>80893164
>why did the writing went to shit
Why did yours?

Elektras death lessens the chances of seeing Bullseye
You're god damn right I mad.

>>80893273
She's not dead.

>>80893273
She's not dead dead and Bullseye is shit anyway.

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>>80893273
>implying she ever dies for good

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>>80889993

>>80893273
I prefer Bullseye as a Deadpool villain
Fight me

>>80893164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icrM6q1Un4E&ab_channel=MarvelEntertainment

>>80893273
Given the chemistry between Matt and Elektra and Matt and Karen, it might feel more right to have Bullseye killing Karen. Elektra kind of deserves to be dead, but Karen doesn't, it'll pack more punch.

>>80893318
>>80893313
>>80893301
Having Bullseye kill Elektra after she had already died once means even less, what are you guys talking about? Would you seriously compromise the established relationships for comic accuracy? Go read a comic, they change shit all the time.

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>>80889993
>mfw

>>80893366
This was actually funny I thought.

>>80893273
anon she might as well change her name to Solomon Grundy

>>80893372
Are you retarded?

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am i the only one that doesnt like the punisher

am i the only one that doesnt like that daredevil is literally just "the politics or the government or the police are corrupt except for the low ranked morons"

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>General Eiling is playing another "soldier" character
>Knew already he's gonna be bad
>I was right

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>>80888366
>pretentious action scenes

>>80893164
>Daredevil suddenly okay with Elektra killing guys

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>>80893366

>>80893372
>Elektra kind of deserves to be dead

Fuck you.

>>80893366
Is it me or the Wrecking Crew are in literally every one of these?

I want the scene where drunk Jessica breaks into Luke's apartment and tells him he's half the man Matt is.

>>80893478
it's okay anon. Elektra will be back.

So in the season finale, when Frank grabs a CD-ROM that says "Micro". That's a reference to Microchip from the comics, right?