playful joker > edgy joker

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>>80536423
Hamil's Joker was the perfect balance of both, imo.

How about playfully edgy?

Recurring villains are idiotic in general. The Joker can be good as a one-off, two-parter, or maybe a three-parter. But infinitely recurring villains are a dumb comic-book idea that makes the hero look incompetent and the villain even moreso because they keep failing over and over and over.

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>>80536423
PREACH

>>80536667
It would work if they didn't actually see face to face

>>80536423
They're both great tbqh familia

>>80536423
I agree. The great thing about Hamil Joker was he was actually funny and entertaining to watch. Edgy Joker is way too fuckin' cynical for a hero who dresses in a bat costume to fight crime.

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Nobody can possibly top Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight

his award winning performance is one of the greatest performances ever filmed

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waifu Joker > edgy Joker

>>80536667
I think it's fine for Joker. He just enjoys the game. Win or lose. Obviously, he'd prefer to win.

>>80536667
It makes the people who are supposed to keep the villains jailed up look incompetent.

>>80536667
Any recurring villains you are fond of?

>>80536667
This:
>>80537098

I don't think it makes the heroes or villains incompetent, but the people running the prisons.

>>80537004
>Joker makes Bruce stand around for hours until he finds the perfect shade of blood red lipstick
>just as Bruce is about to pay Joker tells him he doesn't want it anymore

Is Arkham Joker the best balance between the two?

>>80537212
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqj0vYB0TBk
Yes.

>>80536667
As long as it's consistent with it's internal logic, I don't see too big of a problem. The Spectacular Spider-Man was great with recurring villains.

>>80536667
He'd work better if he just straight-up never got caught, and only his plans got foiled, or he gets "killed" off-panel through open ended circumstances like Moriarty in some adaptations.

Reoccurring antagonists aren't inherently shit, it all depends on how they're handled.

>>80536667
I agree in most cases but it feels... natural in superhero stories more than anything else. It'd feel wrong if some villains weren't recurring.

>>80536879
I thought the whole point of the Joker was that he isn't actually funny, he just thinks he is.

>>80536602
Hamil Joker went too far on the edgy side after the animation change. At the last years of the Timmverse, he was as edgy as modern Joker

>>80536423
ITT popular opinions

>>80536667
It works better for thieves than serial killers.

>>80537153
BRUCE IS GONNA
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>>80537004
>>80537153
Cute

>>80538295
>At the last years of the Timmverse, he was as edgy as modern Joker
Hardly
He was still very much a joker(ha), but there were more realistic stakes (mostly, people actually dying)