Who's the better character Who's more icon Who's

>>79861035
Surly spiderman? Spiderman has always been popular and well known to the general public. Him, batman and superman are probably the most well known super heroes out there and he is way more popular than superman.

>>79861035
>Who's the better character

Batman

>Who's more icon

Batman

>Who's more popular

Batman

>>79861069

Is Spiderman more popular than ironman?
Spiderman is super popular, what's his appeal

Between those 2, Spidey.

If only Sony and Fox would give the rights back to marvel
Spidey is the only chance Marvel have if they want to defeat the God that is Batman.

>>79861144
His latest cartoons depicts him as a more wholesome and likable Deadpool

>>79861148
>If only Sony and Fox would give the rights back to marvel Spidey is the only chance Marvel have if they want to defeat the God that is Batman

If Spidey is the only chance, why does Fox need to give the rights back?

>>79861144
His past as a huge nerd who is bullied made him easily relatable to his target audience. It also helps that he is a funny and genuinely nice guy who rarely does thing like start a super powered civil war. Although there was that time he made a deal with the devil.
He also has several well liked cartoons and a number of video games, one of which had excellent web swinging mechanics. Also his costume is cool.

>>79861197
>Likable deadpool

What's even the point?

>>79861135
Outside the US Spider-Man outsells Batman by a large margin.
Peter Parker is a better character because unlike Bruce, outside the mask matters as much as inside. Where as Batman, all the writers seem to keep him on resting bitch face and there could be a considerable amount of decent stories around Bruce having to solve his problems not as Batman.

Superman however is more iconic of Superheroes. He's the quintessential cape.

>>79861197
>likable
You mean more obnoxious.

>>79861306
That's only because no one company sells batman and superman toys. Those figures were from Mattel.

There was an article that proved this

>>79861306
Nobody really likes superman the same way they like batman and spiderman. They just know he exists.

Spider-Man for all.

Second most iconic and most popular superhero of all time. It's not quite a surprise

And Spider-Man has one of the best books ever written in medium.

>>79861361
He certainly has ironman beat. I dont think I have ever read a single ironman comic.

>>79861361
Not the second. He's under wolvie

Just on par with ironman

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>>79861035
Spidey/Spidey/Spidey

>>79861482
''Three claws''
''Spins web''

I would sey they are tied.

>>79861482
I dont know man, the Canadian is popular but I dont know if he is spiderman popular.

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>>79861482
In terms of media exposure, merchandising and comic book presence it's more like:
1. Batman
2. Spider-Man
3. Superman
[power gap]
4. Iron Man
5. Wolverine/X-Men

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>>79861144
Design. Not just costume, but his powers and MO allow for cool looking situations. Seriously, adding wall-crawling, super agility and web make for an acrobatic and unique fighting style, aswell as unique situation where he just hangs out in cooler ways than basically anyone.
And shit, fucking web-swinging? That shit is so fucking cool.

Secondly, characterization, at least when done muh, is pretty fun. He's an insecure wise-ass with a good heart, what's not to like?

Also some cool villains.

>>79861331
He outsells them in more product than action figures anon.
This is /co/'s biggest misconception about what "merch" means.

>>79861637
And hes a god damn wrecking machine without having the power to level a city.

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>>79861591
>>79861527
>>79861504

Show kids this symbol

they'll say it's iron man

>>79861591
This is very time sensitive under the power gap.
Bats, Spidey and Supes are the only ones that have remained steady or grown for the last 50 years.
IM was not exactly unknown before the MCU, but he wasn't a power player and was arguably less recognizable than Cap. The X-Men as a group have been consistently popular, but the face of the franchise has varied widely. Wolvie has been it for the better part of the last 25 years though.

>>79861676
How so?

>>79861591

1. Batman
2. Superman
3. Iron man sadly
[power gap]
4.Deadpool (Fuck that shit)
5. Wolverine/X-Men/Spidey

>>79861676
Have you tried or are you assuming? I'd think they'd say it's a circle.

>>79861591
Wrong actually. Spider-Man generally sells better than Batman. Both comic book and merchandising wise. It changed quite a bit for the last few months since BvS promotions are over the top but for the last 4 decade, Spidey sold way better.

Icon status-wise

1 - Superman
2 - Spidey
3 - Batman
4 - X-Men

Popularity wise

1 - Spidey
2 - Batman
3 - X-Men

[POWER GAP]

4 - Superman

It's just my observation though. I might be wrong. But Superman will boost his popularity once BvS comes out.

The one that's had more cartoons

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>>79861720
>Deadpool
>more iconic than wolverine
>more iconic than the god damn spiderman
Surly you jest sir.
>>79861734
This seems the most accurate so far to me.

>>79861035
Spiderman tend to have cancerous fans.

I tend yo forget about him tho.

>>79861655

No idiot
Flash is the most popular superhero followed by batman and superman in terms of t shirts

Batman and superman and even iron man outsell spiderman in every other medium besides toys

The toys are still debatable because not all batman and superman toys are taken into account

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>>79861035
Iron Man doesn't even have an icon

>>79861742
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_in_other_media
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man_in_other_media

And for the sake of argument
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:X-Men_in_other_media
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Batman_in_other_media
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Superman_in_other_media

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>>79861768
So I guess I'll post it again. You'll notice how it says "licensed products", not "toys".

>>79861768
Flash sells because BAZINGA

>Batman and superman and even iron man outsell spiderman in every other medium besides toys

No they don't. Spider-Man has the third or fourth most sucessful cinematic franchise of all time. Even more sucessful than Batman. And other than few months of exposure, Spider-Man comics sell better all the time. Plus, this >>79861838

>>79861838
Jesus fucking christ I knew spidey was going to have them beat but hot damn.

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>>79861035
>who's more popular
Spider Man, for obvious reasons.

>Who's the better character
Tony. There's only one Iron Man in the mainstream continuity, and he's only been replaced for very short periods of time.

Spiderman can be replaced with a number of different characters, male or female in the role with similar results, primarily because his core traits are so relatable, but Tony brings a complex flavor of identity to the Iron Man that's difficult to replicate with another person in the suit. There's also the fact that he's among the few heroes that has a very good reason to go through costume changes, since his suits can vary heavily depending on function and/or performance improvements.

Spiderman has the biggest number of quality books mainly because he's so easy to write, but Tony is a character that has the potential to shine far brighter under the right writer.

Apparently, they currently think the right writer is Bendis. Ah well, maybe someday...

>>79861768
70% of those were Big Bang Theory shirts, wholly divorced from the Flash brand

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>>79861731
>>79861716

This hand gesture is icon level

>>79861361
>Has one if the best books written in the medium
He has thousands of issues and story arcs. What book are you specifically talking about?

>>79861803
I had no idea they all had proper novels based on them.

>>79861908
Thats a bit of a reach. It doesnt really come close to the web slinging fingers. Batman doesnt really have a hand gesture I can think of off the top of my head.

>>79861874
>>79861869
>>79861734
>>79861749
>>79861750

You faggots underestimate the popularity of deadpool and ironman.

After this year, Spiderman won't even be able to compete with them.

>>79861925
Stan Lee/Ditko Run for example. Especially If This Be My Destiny. Then the Night Gwen Stacy Died, Boy Who Collects Spider-Man, Alien Suit Saga, Kraven's Last Hunt.

But majority would probably say either USM or Marvel Knights.

>>79861869
>>79861902
True, but the reason Sheldon wears it is because it's an awesome logo that translates really well to T-shirt and doesn't say "I'm a dudebro" as much as a Superman T.
Besides he wears GL shirts aswell and nobody buys those

>>79861930
When they bring in that sort of money they probably have toilet paper with their faces on it.
>>79861943
Man, I enjoy deadpool. I like some of his comics and I thought his movie was pretty good. But one movie isnt going to put him on spidermans level.

>>79861838
>2014
>asm2
>Licensed figures

Lets see the one from last year.
Someone should really start a bingo with this guy

>>79861908
that's the generic 'casting a spell' gesture

>>79861935
He has creeping in the shadows and narrowing his eyes.

>>79861943
And you underestimate how much the rest of the world likes Spider-Man, especially children. Like really, the cliché image I have of a south american child has him wearing a Spidey T-shirt.
Deadpool is mostly popular with internet nerds, and Iron Man is still a relatively recent trend that doesn't really propagate to other media than cinema.

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>>79861838
>>79861971

The amazing Spiderman killed all Spiderman hype

No Spiderman movie has ever made more than iron man 3

Ironman is better, more popular and as iconic as hulk and wolverine.


On top of that, he's never had a bad movie

>>79861943
You can make that argument for Deadpool because now he's getting mainstream recognition, but Iron Man has been a thing for almost a decade now.

Look at >>79861838
"Avengers" means that people are buying less Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America stuff COMBINED than they are Spider-Man stuff.

>>79861972
What guy? I answered 2 of your posts.
If you have contradicting numbers from last year, post them. Until then I'll trust the numbers I've seen and my own experience over you smugingly dismissing evidence as not good enough.

>>79862040
For example, I was born in 84 and I don't remember a time I didn't know who Spider-Man was. And I learnt who Batman is with the 92' movie. It might be different for some other people but dunno.

>>79861943
You're the one who's underestimating spider-man anon, you'd have to be completely brain dead if you think ironan and deadpool come close.

>>79862047
Ah, you're taking the incredibly biased fanboy approach. Can't do anything about that I guess.

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>>79862040
Superman is the universal symbol of superhero

>>79862047
But if he is so popular where is Italian Iron man? Check mate atheists.
>>79862065
Spiderman was probably popular when my dad was a kid. He certainly was when I was and I had never even read one of his comics.

>>79862096
Yeah but he isnt as fun to read about.

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>>79861935
>Batman doesnt really have a hand gesture I can think of off the top of my head.

>>79862065
I dunno either. I was born in 1985, and I'm not sure whether my 1st contact with Batman was Batman 1989 in whatever year I actually saw it or BTAS:
I'm not sure how I knew Spider-Man, but I liked him and read his comic before the animated series from 1994, which is a bit weird considering nobody reads cape comics in my country. I have no idea where I got the bite.

>>79862096
There's something weird about that pic. Is the Supes symbol shooped in?
Besides African kids will wear literally anything.

>>79862196
Spiderman is like a weird memetic disease for children. They all know about him and think he is cool without ever being exposed to him. Its like how birds know to fly south in the summer.

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>>79861879
>A.I Tony
This is my dream final power level for him. His action sequences in Ultimates were pretty awesome; he'd get hit into pieces but then rebuild himself on the fly to the point his fists flew out and punched in multiple directions.

It's also a good way to push his Howard Hughes-esque inspirations and see him evolve/devolve into an almighty A.I so he gets away from all the weak aspects of himself (his carnal desire for meaningless sex and drink) or he becomes the ultimate dildo.

>>79862249
I mean in the winter.

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Prove me wrong, /co/

>>79861943
Deapool will never out sell Spiderman simply because he's not marketable to younger kids and toddlers.

>>79862367
Fox will soo do that

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>>79861935
>Batman doesnt really have a hand gesture

>>79862446
They've just put out an R-rated movie anon.

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>>79862367
>>79862476

>>79862196
I also remember that Iron Man was Deadpool in 80's. Even my bully read his comics.

I think popularity is greatly helped by having a catchy song attached to them.
Is it a coincidence that the two most popular heroes have a good theme song?

>>79862511
Yeah I'm not sure about people saying Iron Man was never popular before the movies, I remember him being fairly popular for a guy without his own animated series.

>>79862662
He wasnt anything compared to now is probably what they mean.

>>79862544
Spider-Man doesn't really have great music attached to it,
The best/most memorable/iconic is still probably this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXRN_cPRjYk

I'd say Batman has the best music in various media, followed by Supes.

>>79862725
Do you really need more than that though? Its from the sixties and people still know it.

>>79862511
>Having a bully

Top bantz

>>79862511
Before, people who read comics knew who he was. Today, people who do anything know who he is.

>>79862662
Iron Man had a cartoon in the 60s, and he had a cartoon in the 90s. That's literally how forgettable he was before the movies put him on the map.

>>79862769
Considering I'm over 30 and still shitposting on 4chan - I think I quite deserved it.

>>79862857
>Over 30

It's not all bad. At least you aren't a degenerate or a racist
Right?

>>79862914
Nah, I have no problem with niggers and MLP.

>>79862765
True enough, it's the only comics 60s music that survived in popular consciousness besides Batman's 1966 one.
Too bad the more recent Spidey movies or shows couldn't pull a a Danny Elfman. Or a Shirley Walker. Or a Hans Zimmer. Seriously Batman has been blessed. Well they did have Danny Elfman on Raimi's movies but his brass heavy style doesn't work as well for Spidey.

>>79862933
Then you're decent in my book

Do you ever feel like taking revenge on your bully?

>>79862966
No. We became pretty close in senior year. We drink together once in a while.

>>79862954
https://youtu.be/Ge5HZuKd9Bc

>>79862954
Deadpool got a pretty cool song this time around as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNj-edbwbp8

>>79863033
Eh. It's kind of shit and I wish you'd stop shilling it.

>>79863074
Never ever. It is much better in montage form I must admit.

>>79861390
>I dont think I have ever read a single ironman comic.


I've read a few and I liked what I read. Parts of the David Michelinie run and John Byrne's run. Classic Tony is pretty cool and I like his Rouge's gallery, but I think all of what I liked about Ironman got thrown away in the 2000's

>>79863119
Only bad Iron Man story comes into my mind are in 2000's. I liked how he was basically smug Howard Hughes.

I enjoyed Fraction and Ellis Iron Man though.

By the way, Ellis' favorite character is Iron Man right?

>>79863101
It works with the scene but it's a poor composition, the lyrics are as uninteresting as it gets, and even the flow isn't good.
If the whole movie was on the level of this song it would have been what people think Memepool is.

>>79863187
>By the way, Ellis' favorite character is Iron Man right?

Wouldn't be surprised, I mean Ellis is a futurist himself

>>79863282
Yeah hearing it away from the movie I am liking it less and less.

>>79863119
Iron Man was always a pretty good character, but never really an overly cool one, outside of him coming up with new weapons for his suits.
So yeah he flied under the radar, but his old stuff is good honest-to-God superhero stuff.

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>>79863323
>but his old stuff is good honest-to-God superhero stuff.


I love Doomquest so much. Iron Man and Doctor Doom ended up accidentally traveling through time, arrive in the age of Camelot, and then take Tony teams up with King Arthur and Doom teams up with Morgan Le Fay

>>79863374
Iron Man/Doom team ups are the best. Seriously.

>>79863374
You know who else loves that story? Bendis. It's an obscure fact, because he never brings it up.

>>79863420
It's not that obscure, I mean it comes up directly in his Mighty Avengers run