Civil War storytime

>Storytime of Pain: Civil War
Ftfy OP

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>>78878828
Forgot

NOOOOOOOOOOO

like i don't have a good memory but i don't think this could possibly be as bad as /co/ and the comics community have made it out to be

mcniven's a great artist

>>78878972
It's not, /co/ (or at least the majority) hate anything that's popular.

>>78878972
It's not as bad as everyone pretends it is.

Is it great? Nah. But this is nowhere near a storytime of pain.

>>78878972
It's like Identity Crisis where people have gotten madder about it the longer it's been out.

YOU MADMAN WHAT ARE YOU DOING

>>78878972
The event itself was pretty shit, the fallout was worse though

>>78879217
He actually did it

the absolute madman

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>>78879217
Civil war

>>78879222
>the fallout was worse though
Avengers the Initiative was great.

>>78879211

>Sentinels are here to keep an eye on the X-Men

man that happens and I'm an X-Men, i'm fucking leaving.

>>78879285
So am I to believe if that woman wouldn't have been there, Tony wouldn't have been such a spineless fuccboi?

>>78879015
Storytime of mild irritation and discomfort.

>>78879333
>>Paris and Lindsey
I feel old.

>>78879139
as shit as this event is, I did like the initial stanford event and premise there

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>>78879461
Same

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>>78879452
This

>>78879434

so Millar just ignored that Matt was in jail and Danny was running around in the suit right?

it's weird how it's not bad but there are some just bad missteps

>>78879292
i am surprise Logan stayed, i though he hated shit like that

>>78879490
>>78879508
>>78879463
fuck I forgot how much a cunt Maria was

>>78879531

now is when it starts getting stupid

>>78879542

the x-men removing themselves from the event was great

>>78879118
>>78879139
>Slams an exploding super villian into a school bus near a bunch of kids and talks shit. >Instead of immediately fly him up and away from the kids
You know what? They all deserved to die. I know Nitro was juicing, but even then. Just what?

>>78879557
they had to do so much shit to make us forget about this.

I never did, Hill ate every one of her words with Osborn being put in power.

which also forced everyone to realize Captain America's perspective on it, eventually someone in charge was going to be not so nice and tell you who to fight.

>>78879531
>>78879557
like what is her justification? The law isn't passed

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>>78879593
We haven't meet clor

>>78879211
Yup, the giant genocide robots are the good guys.

>>78879660

at least with that you can be like Oh skrullpym was fucking with everyone

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>>78879687
True

The good parts of this event are any scene with Captain America

The rest only suck because Marvel insists on "shaking the very foundation of their universe" and then it's status quo again in a year. That and these motherfuckers can only fight so many times before it's retarded that they go back to being "friends".

>>78878972
the ending was shit.

It is like they had a cool concept, but couldnt think of a good story around it.

House of M is a good event, in spite of what it did to the X-Men franchise, Civil War isnt.
The best issue is the first one with Namorita dying and Nitro blowing up.

>>78879637
she had a huge ego being put in charge of SHIELD.

she was a cunt of a character until some writer felt pity and turned her "good"

Patriot had the right idea, go on strike and see how they react when the Wreaking Crew takes over Congress or some shit

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No idea what the point of the watcher on this book.

>>78879333
World's bigger than a school, you moron.

>>78879701
>Guns are licensed why not powers
Don't even start that shit with me bitch.

>>78879377
>this apartment's too crowded
>why does reed only play house
>my feet hurt
>i wish i was at home talking to birds

>>78879741
the truly most retarded thing about this is Tony's Karma Houdini trick he pulled with this.

he COMPLETELY gets off scott free and even MEMORY FREE of this event and NO ONE EVER CALLS HIM ON IT.

and then right before Secret Wars he goes fucking apeshit again.

>>78879741

this was the start of status quo shake ups that basically maintained until about the Heroic Age

>>78879822

I still think the entire shit with the illuminati blowing up planets and not even trying to find another way to save both planets was retarded.

If they tried and failed they'd still have failed as heroes, now they're just supervillains.

>>78879827
which is funny, because even before they became friends again Iron Man was already doing secret dirty shit behind people's backs already!

when pressed later, he told Cap that he doesn't give a shit about him and that his friendship was a thin veneer and nothing more, and it always was.

>>78878708
I think the best excuse you can have for this comic is that this is what American Politics looks to Scottish people.

>>78879883
was there a good explanation as to why Reed was acting like a cunt or they let that pass too ?

I will say this, I do like that this event has so many characters in it, compared to current events that are just the current Marvel lineup

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Atleast we got some nice Frank scenes later.

>>78879898

apparently at some point they said that wouldn't work but it was like in charts or something and no one noticed or remembered

>>78879612
The set up for Civil War is really fucking stupid.

It's not like it was the Avenger's just fucking around and a bunch of kids got killed. It was a group of C-list retards on a fucking reality TV show that the entire super hero community know how to be held accountable for and bow down the the government or be thrown in jail.

Like it could of been fucking dog the bounty hunter trying to fuck with villains causing a disaster and Civil War would still of happened at that point.

I get it. It's the final breaking point that opened all the floodgates but as far as breaking points go it's a stupid one.

>>78879902
they should have divorced over this and never got back together.

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>>78879967
Skrulls

>>78879984

I really can't stand how cunty Reed and Iron Man became in recent years. The only thing that keeps them from being as bad as Namor is that they actually had character traits before it instead of being boring faggots.

>>78880010
It's funny how nobody uses Patriot anymore.

>>78879967
Reed of 616 is generally a cunt at almost all times.

especially to Sue, who he lied to about this, and then Illuminati shit, both times he basically told her to go fuck herself and that she wasn't important enough to him to tell the truth to, but Hank Pym a man he can't stand, was.

>>78880010
man, think of the shit this would cause today ?

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>>78880010
>Oh boy

>>78879681
Armed hitsquads are the single greatest way of saving lives! Forget about the hundreds of people, powered or non-, who sign away their personal time and effort, social interaction, physical and mental well-being, and even their very lives for the public good, for no pay and no expectation of reward or gratitude! They don't do shit!

>>78879701
How many babies are born with guns integrally attached to their right hands?

>>78879232
>WOLVERINE SAYING HE WAS GONNA KILL OBAMA !!

what the actual fuck?

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I am sorry peter fans it goes downhill from here. In the next page

I'm more of a DC guy, so correct me if I;m wrong, but wasn't Tony Stark a pretty big libertarian/anti-governmental control prior to this? And wasn't there a F4 issue devoted to pointing out how bad an idea a super-reg act would be?

>>78880067
>>78880086
>>78880103
I though people were joking when they told me that Iron mans side was evil to the mustache point, boy was i wrong

Cap's such a grumpy old man in this

>>78879253
Who the fuck the priest thinks he is to ask blame or forgiveness to anyone?

>>78879967
Doesn't Reed normally cycle between ok and cunt?

>>78880180
He became more involved with government after getting sober and going public.

>>78880183
Oh, he hasn't even got bad yet.

The funniest shit about all of this was Marvel's writers overwhelmingly saying they'd be in support of Pro-Reg. I guess they're all government bitches

>>78880070
I like that they're able to get government funded teams of non super human soldiers (who aren't S.H.I.E.L.D) only when it's for the express purpose of taking down heroes.

When it's villains running around everyone but shield and super teams are slack jawed morons who can't shoot a gun ever.

>>78880211
I have so many questions

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>>78879926
I can't be the only one who hates this spider man outfit
Thx OP btw

>>78880180
yes. most of his stories that weren't about villains trying to steal his tech were about governments trying to steal his tech and supervise his activities

>>78879309
>Damian
That boy is better fucking dead before too late

>>78880234

The heroes are nowhere near as bad and won't try to kill them, that's the advantage they have with that. They won't be sending dozens of men in to get slaughtered by Carnage or Doom or Magneto.

>>78880208
That's why we left the Roman church a couple hundred years ago, man. They think there's a special class "above" us regular plebs that gets better access to God than we do, and the lowly schmucks have to go through an intermediary.

Which, actually, might be a tangential commentary on the theme of Civil War being about power, control, and authority.

>>78879681
Well Strange, while the others were being morons? Dick Rider and other Cosmic peeps were trying to save the universe.

>>78880231

Pro Reg is totally in the right but somehow in the writing they just became like Nazis

>>78880225
It's the same story arc every time.

>>78880225
no, he's always a cunt but he can two-face acting like a decent father.

but the Cunt underneath always remains, it only requires him to be pushed.

he will blatantly lie to his wife about some of the most important shit in the world and the universe and hell even about themselves specifically because he knows better than her.

and she just takes the punishment and abuse because he would ruin her life if she left.

>>78880231
Their Liberal, liberal's gladly and loudly throw away freedom for security, every time.

history has shown us the end of this though, Gulag's and camps baby!

>>78880231
>leftist comic writers
>I guess they're all government bitches
What was your first clue, sparky?

>>78880283

I like how you argued against yourself in that sentence. And fuck them anyway, their good intentions don't give them to right to make anyone sign jack shit. Especially not someone like Cap.

>>78880295

t'challa's face in the last panel is killing me

>>78880281

to be fair Uatu having an Earth fetish is basically canon right

>>78880010
>we gotta ban heroes because of all the damage they do
>blows up a building
this is how gun control advocates actually think

>>78880281
and it was one hundred times better written and it had better action, why did they push this event so much ?

>>78880329

Because there's a difference between the regular brand of liberal faggot and the kind who says "yeah I'd support hunting down superheroes", putz

>>78879352
>>78879333
>baby killer
Americans education.

And the bouncer disappeared.

>>78880211
WHERE'S YOUR DICK

There is one thing I like about this event, I like that it actually takes place over weeks, hell, months of time. Every other event after this is usually in one day or three at most. This one felt like it was ongoing events.

>>78880364
this is a sore spot that they point out alot and all the Avengers just look nervous because its true.

millions of mutants died and they didn't even give a shit.

>>78879377
Why are they giving that sad fuck Strange a green light

>>78880370
yep

letting fucking Sentinels stand around the mansion what the shit x-men

>>78879404
Logan is an eternal cunt, should kick him out desu.

>>78880377
I think this was the start of the cash cowing of "Hero vs. Hero" for Marvel. Even though I don't exactly know when that started.

>>78880494

It had always been happening for like 2-3 pages at a time in solo titles every now and then, it just became an occurrence of happening every fuckin' month after this shit.

>>78880478
they didn't have a choice, the government basically said "we will probably kill you all if you don't do what we say"

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>>78880494
Avengers

>>78879434
>black cat
retarded

>>78879461
they were shit since forever, don't feel bad mate

>>78880492
Hold up. Who is the girl with the glowing sticks? Because I know that Mockingbird was dead til Secret Invasion. I swear, I notice new characters every time I read this.

>>78880492
I would forever give she-hulk shit for siding against cap.

I expect it from that drunk slut Carol...

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Here we go. poor goliath

>>78879508
Maria has a full cock in her mouth already

>>78880494

literally Avengers 2 or Amazing Spider-Man 1 or Fantastic Four #4

>>78880231
That's some revisionist history there. Almost every writer who wasn't Millar shit on Tony.

>>78880610
they are liberals almost all of them.

they adamantly believe in security over freedom every time.

>>78880281

One of the most awesome things about Civil War were the other events going on outside of Civil War, Annihilation, Planet Hulk and Gaiman writing a new Eternals mini-series.

>>78880535
Which is exactly why we should trust the government, give them our secret identities, and let them tell us who to attack!

>>78880615
Is this the part where Thor comes from god knows where and zaps Goliath ? even though its not even thor but a fucking clone

Christ, sometimes you just want Superman to drop out of the sky and force everyone to shake hands and talk it out like adults.

>>78880492
He's right about that. Who has a secret identity anymore? Daredevil and Spider Man?

>>78880610

>Revisionist

They've said it back when the event was new and in recent years. Either they really believe it or they were just trying to get people to talk but they're douchebags either way.

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ragni

>>78880545

ratcheting up to another level of dumb here, hell you have them talk so that it makes the fight more impactful

>>78880610

that was the thing, Millar wanted the evenness but everyone else basically made tony the devil

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>>78880665
ragnarok

>>78880651
it worked out so well too... oh wait, Dark Reign.

and then no one pointed out the obvious.

you can't even blame Osborn, it isn't his fault the hero's and the government paved the way for him, THEY put this system in place.

>>78880151
This was during Bush's era.

>>78880641
I don't want the US Govt to own superheroes but I do think they should have some accountability. Especially considering they can get powers out of nowhere and they are 1000x more powerful than anything human made.

>>78880669

That'd be out of left field.

>"We've been watching your earth for the last five minutes, what the fuck is wrong with all of you"

>>78880677

>Daredevil having the line reacting to first seeing Clor

christ Millar!

>>78879623
Religious clown.

So glad MCU punished Cap hard and shut him up.

>>78880677
Ragnarok shouldn't have hurt Herc like that, Herc isn't QUITE Thor level, but he isn't far off.

and Ragnarok is NO fucking Thor.

BTW, anyone remember MUA2?

>>78880659

This is what made me like Herc

>>78880700

Tony got a lot of shit for that actually

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>>78880745
Better version of civil war.

>>78880731

You faggots better not take this bait

>>78880745

Had a better endi-

Actually no, it had a cliche ending, but it was better because I could still buy them being friends after MUA2's version of the events.

>>78879701
>MU-H DEAD BA-B-BYY

Fuck the jewess right in the pussy.

>>78880708
yes that's a great notion, most everyone aggree's.

but accountability to WHO? who exactly is in charge here? do you KNOW how dirty the U.S Government is?

putting them in charge of super hero's is a fucking terrifying prospect, Liberals never ask the question of who hold the leash and what kind of man that person usually ends up being.

>>78880701
Oh, well then in THAT case it's absolutely okay to talk about killing the President; all the cool kids were doing it!

>>78880283

You're out of your goddamned mind, every last bad thing that could've happened from registration did happen.

Having every superhero's name in a database for terrorist and supervillain organizations to easily take a peek at and hurt them, assholes telling superheroes who and what to fight, etc.

>>78880760
no he fucking didn't, they accepted him back into the fold no questions asked.

and he was already in the illuminati and continued to doing all kinds of shit behind their backs anyways.

he's a cunt and he stayed a cunt until his death right before Secret Wars.

and now he's a cunt in the new universe.

>>78880752
I honestly want to know why nit took everyone so long to understand that he was not the real Thor

>>78880494

As much as people complain Civil War really revitalized a lot of heroes that had been sitting on the back burner for most of the 90's and early 2000's. During that time everything was just mutants and Spider Man, then the Ultimate lines got hot but Civil War brought the classic Avengers back to the forefront.

>>78880774
Yeah that's the hard part. I agree with you that the US government is dirty af.

>>78880802
you HAVE to know your the bad guy when you are giving the monologue to the hero of WW2 as you hit him with your torture device.

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RIP

>>78880318
i thought she took the abuse because his dick game is amazing

he ain't called mr fantastic for nothing

What's funny is basically everyone is registered now bc everyone is an Avenger.

>>78880808

but that's not what happened? Fucking Skrulls pulled the trigger on their fucking years long sleeper cell invasion plan

>>78880774

I think a what if ended with Cap and some others in charge of the Registration stuff

>>78879883
>>78879902
No wonder he got Netorared into oblivion.

>>78880035
Which is weird, Shouldn't he have been the first choice to be the black Captain America?

>>78880329
This came out when the Patriot Act was the hot issue of the day.

It's pretty obvious that most of the writers were actually pro-Cap.

>>78880909
she takes the abuse because she's saddled to him with kids and a life he's built.

he would readily take all that from her and he's smart enough to do it and she knows she'd lose everything if she left.

so she simply makes the best of it, she has no power in the relationship and never does.

in nearly 90% of all worlds, Sue leaves reed to disastrous results.

see Ultimate Doom, it almost always ends badly for everyone, Sue included.

>>78880931
>starring Iron-Eyes Cody as Observer
also, dem luscious Sue lips

Why does everyone hate Tony anyway? He's always doing what right. Also the hate for him in the prequel to secret wars is retarded, every member of the illuminati blew up worlds and lied to people, but somehow tony is the worst of them, yet he always saves everyones asses

what's weird is that pretty sure no one ever cared about Goliath, it's like if Eric O'grady was the big kill in Civil War 2

it'd be like poetry

>>78880731
Agreed. All religions are Haram.

>>78880872
Sorry Bill, you were too black a legacy character to make it out of this one. But take heart! Hank can no longer brag about all his black friends on the internet.

>>78880924

Tony erased the databases and his own mind to keep Norman Osborn from getting into it but there were plenty of double agents from Hydra and A.I.M who had gotten into there.

>>78881013

Is this the worst part of the book?

Christ shrinking stuff is Pym's whole deal

>>78880954
no, they were not, they are liberals, they don't give a fuck about the word "freedom".

>>78881030

>"Wait, we didn't make action figures of that armor back then, it wasn't out yet"

>>78880343
Aw yes the part where the X-Men refuse to take part in this crossover.

>>78881062
Anon, this came out when the popular viewpoint of the day was that the Republican led government was overstepping its boundaries to fight a war on terror.

>>78881087

SO DUMB

>>78881087
That's a lot of murderers on the paycheck, Tony. Maybe you want to look at your karma meter?

>>78881062
>liberals
I know this word gets used incorrectly in US politics. But the proper word is "leftist." They're liberal about nothing except muh gays, and then only when it suits them.

>>78881120

The real lesson we can take from all of this is that anyone who writes fiction is in no way qualified to push their agendas, whatever stance it may be into stories

>>78881087
>we are so in the right here, aren't we Jan

>yep now lets sick Bullseye on Captain America

also how long was he making that face ready for them to open the door.

also that fucking Songbird is as intimidating as she ever got.

>>78880447
I doubt the US government can actually arrest the Sorcerer Supreme.

>>78881136
Incest mode, activate!

>>78881120
and they took down a fucking dictator, liberals wanted to simply let him be.

all the fallout? that is our fault for sure, we fucked that entire place up and didn't fix it, but taking out that sick fuck was the RIGHT thing to do.

liberals are fine with horrible shit happening so long as it happens away from them, conservatives know that sometimes you have to go out and do something.

too bad they were too incompetent to clean up their mess.

>>78881139
Songbird is the only one who doesn't seem to belong there.

>>78879593
>the x-men removing themselves from the event was great

To this day, I still don't get why they did that, when "Mutant Registration Act" has been a thing for 30 years, and has been treated almost always as "slippery slope bad things happening." That's what always brought me out of the story. It seems like it was trying to be framed as a Gun Control metaphor, especially in the Iron Man tie-ins, but the X-Men have been using registration as a racism metaphor for so much longer.

>>78881210
anon, she was a villian for like 2 decades up till this point.

she wasn't a hero till Darkest Reign.

>>78880715
That reminds me of JLA/Avengers.

>>78881242
why is Radioactive man their? he was working with Avengers already!

man once we hit Goliath dying no brakes on the stupid train

>>78881256
Found the person who doesn't read comics.

>>78880295
>>78880325
So Susan is taking the BBC instead of that boypussy richards. Good for her.

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Frank

>>78880343
What arrangement, are they sex friends or fuck buddies?

>>78880494
>Even though I don't exactly know when that started.
Human Torch vs. Namor. Hero vs Hero has been part of Marvel's DNA since the Timely days.

>>78881217
I actually like this action shot quite a bit. I feel like spider-man's abilities don't get showcased enough in the big events.

Katie joining up with Tony was really fucking weird as she almost got fucking black-bagged earlier in the story with the rest of the Young Avengers.

>>78881311
>...now kith.

>>78881087
The Thunderboltz Ellis once again making a Diamond out of Marvel's turds.

>>78881354
they do in this one.

the one where he knocks out like half their heavy hitters and then Reed is the best one.

it shows off his speed, agility and strength in one panel.

>>78881334
>>78881295

If you didn't think this was the tightest shit...Civil War was great. I love it. And basically you are fucking stupid!

>>78881329

the joke is they used to be fuck buddies yeah

>>78881334

what's this homageing specifically? it just seems like standard pieta but there's that after keown note

>>78881426

I want this scene in Civil War soooooooooooo bad T_T

>>78881410
>We don't like to think of this as jail
>We prefer...mandatory interstellar futurist holiday resort
>No, it's not a space gulag.
>What do you mean, how the hell did you get the resources to build this gigantic other-dimensional concentration camp?

>>78880416
DON'T BECOME A GOD DAMN TERRORIST THEN, YOU OLD FUCK

>>78880383
Ah yes, the moment where they started Bishop on the path of character assassination on a scale that even Scarlet Witch would be impressed by.

>>78881456
>Government defines what "terrorism" is
>Suddenly you're a terrorist
It's dangerous to be right when the state is wrong.

>>78881203
Why is Spider-Man consistently great?

>>78881357

>Z-Listers badmouthing Spider-Man

>>78881465
did anyone really ever like him anyways?

he's just black Cable.

did he ever come back and try to kill Hope, even though she is no longer fulfilling his prophecy?

>>78881483

they keep talking like a bunch of stamfords happened instead of just the one

>>78881498
He came back in Humphries' Uncanny X-force for a redemption arc, which is among the worst X-books of the past decade.

>>78881483
>Flag behind him
Seriously ? was Millar even trying when he did this ?

>>78881524

>That greasy dude who always strikes out at the bar by hitting on married women

>>78881483
This is the seventh time they've mentioned kids being killed

>>78881087
How retarded can you be? Jesus Christ.

>>78881256
She was a hero in the 90's Thunderbolts

>>78880641
Wasn't the Patriot Act a republican thing?

>>78880595
Vision jobbing like a bitch.

>>78881543
he killed alot, and I mean ALOT of people..

like a couple MILLION, and teamed up with some really shitty villians and did gleeful villian killing sprees and shit.

did he say "i'm sorry I tried to murder you across time and space" and everyone was just cool with it?

>>78881524
anyone have the edit of this where she's Freudian slipping in every line of dialogue?

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>>78881587
Based frank

>>78879864

I like the complete 180 on this stance now that Tony has 3 inexperienced fucking kids in his Avenger crew now.

>>78881587
Now imagine something like this happening in front of Kamala.

>>78881587
Best fucking part of this whole event

>>78880435
Two answers I can give.

>"Trapped in a pyramid while Kang the Conquerer took over the world. Thanks for your help with that by the way, dicks."
>"The X-Men knew about it as it was happening, and they didn't stop it either. You know we don't have teleporters either, right?"

it's super random and out of place but this is actually a great Punisher scene

>>78881397
>complete ban on superheroes

idiot gun control analogy aside, how is this in any way a good idea in a universe where super powered terrorists regularly try to blow up the president, splice people into horrific monsters, and aliens invasions occur?

>>78881595
Storm was like "we're buddies, so I'll have Psylocke wipe out your memories of all that evil shit you did" yay we're friends again. Then Hope and Cable show up to kill him and are interupted by Stryfe, resulting in them reluctantly having to team up to take him down and Bishop is all "Look, I'm super sorry but in a way, aren't I as much of a father to you as Cable? :^)" And Hope was all "I'll kill you if I see you again." And then Bishop never appeared in another book because UXF was cancelled.