ITALIAN COMICS

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Andrea Pazienza

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Tanino Liberatore

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Sergio Toppi

>>78465766
It takes me an eternity to read and understand Pazienza's Zanardi (not italianfag), but I really like his cartoony-well drawn range.

Dylandog and Lilith are pretty good.

Hugo Pratt
Guido Crepax

Zagor, Dylan Dog, Alan Ford.
Only good thing of living in Yugoslavia: good comics.

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magnus

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>>78465993
Magnus was a beast. His works on Tex is god-tier

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>>78466012

>>78466012
he had a very polyhedric style too

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>>78466024

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>>78465742
Dell'Otto's works are bretty good family

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>>78465742
>>78466036
Also Massimo Carnevale

>>78465759
>alanmoore.jpg

>>78466026
Yeah, we could change from a realistic style to a more cartoonish in no time

>>78466012
He was great, I have one of his books with the James-Bond type dude? Moon Over Dendreda, I think?, and that odd cyborg sex comic with the female mad scientist which I've forgotten the name of.
>>78466073
The last comic I mentioned is more cartoony than the first. Lots of severed boners and stuff. And the female lead always reminded me a bit of Hopey's head on chunky Maggie's body.

>>78466156
The james bond type dude is probably "Lo sconosciuto" can't remember the others

I'm trying to remember the name of an Italian comic that was about some green guy that could have his limbs chopped off. I think it was called the lizard or something

>>78465742
I won't be original and I say Dylan Dog, Nathan Never and Paperinik. Italians have more stuff of course, but that's what I consider notable

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>>78465742
I always wonder what does americans think of Dylan Dog.

Druuna

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>>78465742
I like Magnus and Gipi, but I ended up reading a lot more of Luca Enoch's work.

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>>78466012
Mylady 3000 could've been a lot of fun on accout of Magnus' obsession with 16th century dress and chinese art, but the writing was so goddamn terrible.

>>78466273
>US Americans
>translating
>reading comics

>>78465992
The Cat-Lady series that was basically a pardoy of Spider-Man was pretty good. Like it was fun.

>>78466366
wasn't also the fact they use Groucho as a sidekick a reason of why Dylan Dog can't go in the US?

>>78466366
Dark Horse translated one collection of dylan dog, it even has a mignola cover, although it's probably OOP now.

>>78466381
Yes, the Groucho Marx Estate being a thing led to the stach being deleted from the character.

Reminds me that they picked the worst covers for their Dhampyr-release.

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>>78466442
holy shit these are awesome

>>78466366
>The Cat-Lady series that was basically a pardoy of Spider-Man
go on

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>>78466632

>>78466631
>Lady gets bitten by a radioactive cat
>CAT POWERS!!
>There are a bunch of goons around who covet similar powers, she fights them together with a colourful cast of side-characters, most of which do not confirm to industry standards in terms of how they look. Like the cop is an alcoholic with a beer gut and he's not more of a comical character than everybody else.
>her clothes get ripped appart a lot, but then again, everybody's clothes get ripped appart a lot, she just gets better shots than the rest of them
>it is fun

Is what I remember. Can't even recall who the artist was.

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gipi

>Andrea Pazienza
>Sergio Toppi
>Hugo Pratt
>Magnus
>Guido Crepax
Press F to pay respects.

>>78466889
Hugo Pratt was a real life Indiana Jones. It blows my mind that Corto's trips are based in his author's scapades through the jungle, desert and sea.

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Some Benito Jacovitti's comics were translated in Fantomen in Sweden and also in MAD I think, I absolutly adore his style.

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>>78465742

>>78467007
based Pratt was pretty handsome

>>78466733
>Is what I remember. Can't even recall who the artist was.

Cat Claw
Branislav Kerac

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Barbucci. Where's the fucking fourth volume of Sky Doll anyway?

>>78466646
>>78466632
>>78466624
Jeez, these all remind me how much I miss Mignola's old stly. His Hell on Earth stuff doesn't do it for me anymore....

>>78466171
Does that translate as : "The Specialist"? It's The Specialist: Full Moon on Dendera and the other is just called Necron 2. It's like a porn Frankenstein, kind of.

>>78467251
Lo sconociuto means "The Unknown"

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>>78465742
Matt Groenings biggest inspiration for Itchy & Scratchy was this italian underground comic from the 80's. Can't storytime it though since it contains sex and gore and since the characters are fable animals I guess it's prohibited on /aco/ too.

Other good italian stuff:
Altan's dark humour/realism comics
Ranxerox
Manara
Magnus
Crepax


Why is Dylan Dog the only italian americans seems to know about anyway? Didn't you have loads of italian stuff in Heavy Metal and RAW back in the day?

>>78467284
>Why is Dylan Dog the only italian americans seems to know about anyway?

-Americans are barely interested in their own comics, certainly aren't in those of other countries. Manga is an exception thanks to 90s viral marketing
-Bonelli is the only one with enough money to export it to the US, and Dylan is their only character that may appeal to the US

> Didn't you have loads of italian stuff in Heavy Metal and RAW back in the day?

Yep, there still is, but those kind of magazines have become even more of a niche so it's hard for americans to know about.

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>>78467284
In Italy we had a lot of comic authors who worked independent from publishers and wich unique style died with them without leaving a legacy.
Bonelli and Disney are the bigger publishers, that's why Dylan Dog and Paperino keep selling without disappearing from the market.

>>78467277
Oh, okay. Thanks. Is he a white-haired character? Suave type?
>>78467284
Mattioli is great, I have his Superwest collection (it says it's #1 but I'm not sure if there were any more? Published by Catalan), really good cartoonist, definitely.
Not American but I know all those cartoonists and, yes, there were a few Italians in both anthologies you mentioned...more in Heavy Metal, though. RAW? I would have to check my own collection. I know the first issue of volume 2 has an Italian cartoonist in it whose name I have forgotten. Marti who did The Cabbie was in there but I'm not sure if he's Italian or Spanish.
>>78466864
Great cartoonist. First Second published a good few of his books but I think they flew under most people's radar. "Notes On A War Story" and "Garage Band" were really good, I prefer the former myself but both are really solid comics. Great drawing.

>>78467398
if you get the chance you should also read "unastoria" and "La mia vita disegnata male"

>>78467478
Sorry Anon, which cartoonist are you referring to, now?

>>78467496
Gipi.
I think his stories are shit but whatever.

>>78467496
gipi

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Enough Italian comics in this thread. Have an "Italian" comic.

>>78467514
So, you think his stories are shit but you like his art, or just not like any aspect of his comics? I can see where you're coming from, I suppose, he values character over plot and his stuff is quite "downbeat" but they're some of the reasons I like his work.
>>78467559
I see what you did there. Good comic. Again, seemed to fly under most people's radar. Even avowed "alternative" comics fans.
>>78467524
Thanks Anon

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>>78467559
>>78467582

>>>>tumblr
Fuck off with your SJW bullshit.

>Again, seemed to fly under most people's radar. Even avowed "alternative" comics fans.

No shit I wonder why.

>>78467609
Sorry what in that post was "tumblr" or "SJW"?

>literally judging a book by it's cover

I really like Massimo Carnevale, he drew a Dylan Dog story a few years ago, really beautiful looking stuff.

Liberatore is great too.

>>78467662
See the first post I linked.
If I did that I wouldn't be able to call it for what it is, nothing in that cover reveals the actual content.

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>>78467035
Thanks.

As I said, it's a fun little series.

>>78467695
The first post you linked is posting a German/Austrian comic about traveling in Italy.

What seems to be your problem here?

>>78467731
There's a woman's name on the cover. That's going to destroy the nuclear family and shit, mang.

I think the comic itself is one of the weaker German comics of recent years. Like it's about on par with that german zombie apocalypse series.

>>78467695
I did. What was so bad about it?

>>78467731
>about traveling in Italy.

Either you don't know what you're talking about or you're lying and you know it.

>>78467757
Instead of being vague and beating around the bush, why don't you come out on tell us?

Or are you afraid to express your opinions on this Austrian Autobiographical Artistry Appreciation website?

>>78467609
>>78467695

lol, what a fucking geek.

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>>78467695
>>78467609
>thread about italian comics
>anon tries to turn it into another tumblr/sjw thread

this is why we can't have nice things

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>>78467795
>geek

Is this the 80s? Who even talks like that.

>>78465922
>>78466173
that linework

dayum

>>78467284
You should ask the mods, dunno if what up since /a/ now allows official nsfw

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>>78467820
Yes I'm the problem. not the guy who went

>>78467559
>Enough Italian comics in this thread.

Jesus it's so easy to make you tumblrinas cry. Have a comic to cheer you up.

>>78467802
That made it a bad comic? You must be the "bonkers" one if you think that two young women travelling without men wouldn't be hit on in ways that made them feel uncomfortable. It boils down to a bit more than "how dare people look". The whole comic just felt raw and real and direct, I liked it. And I'm pretty sure that is her real name, Anon.

>>78467849
You should consider stop posting

>>78467931
V, just ignore them and let's get back to the other discussions.

>>78467847
"Asking the mods" is easier said than done.

It seems that nothing has changed for /co/ though, and posting nudity still gets people in trouble.

Here's a discussion I enjoyed last month where someone found that out the hard way.

http://desustorage.org/co/thread/77306449/#77315647

>>78467931
>wouldn't be hit on in ways that made them feel uncomfortable.

It's not just that though, they were literally the center of attention of most men around, as if they were supermodels with their boobs out. It's a delusion either derived from paranoia or narcissism, or both.
I don't know what reality you live in if you think that can happen anywhere except Islamic states.

>And I'm pretty sure that is her real name, Anon.
>a german with the surname lust

Ah yes, a noble descendant of the aristocratic cast of the Von Lust, famous for their mastery in dildos.

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>>78467953
You should consider to grow up.

>>78467964
>V, just ignore them and let's get back to the other discussions.

Is he your bf or something?
I'm not the one who insisted in this discussion anyway, all the better if he drops it.

>>78467398
yeah he's the white-haired guy

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@78467849
@78467802
@78467609
@78467997
this dude already posted 4 pics and none of them are about italian comics.
ignore and report.

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>>78467559
how about THIS italian comic

>>78468019
Is this b8?
Did you start browsing 4chan this christmas?
You're more than welcome to bring back the thread in its tracks though.

>>78467931
>>78467953

stop replying to him. Just report hide and move on.
He probably posted the comic in the first place just so he could reply indignant to that post

>>78468044
>Mirka
>Murrica
Clearly American.

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>>78468006
Thanks Anon.
>>78467964
You're right. Done.

Has no-one mentioned the great Lorenzo Matotti, yet? Apologies if someone has.

>>78468089
>He probably posted the comic in the first place just so he could reply indignant to that post
>this paranoia

You can see the IPs in the down-right corner newfriend.

>>78468124
This is from Dylan Dog's author, by the way. His only other notable work.

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>>78465766
I'm an italianfag but I've never managed to find paz scans, do you have some? Where did you find 'em? My dad had an old copy of Pentothal and I used to read it a lot when I was younger. Never quite got the plot though, sadly. Would love to read it again.

>>78467964
>"Asking the mods" is easier said than done.

From #4chan's IRC topic: "::4chan | If you are banned, please appeal @ 4chan.org/banned before asking for help here. Otherwise, you may PM a moderator (ops/halfops) with your ? and any relevant details. Do not post personal info in the channel!"

That said, that policy has more use in /co/ than in /a/.

>>78468019
What's this from? The guys look like ayy lmaos

>>78468217
>The guys look like ayy lmaos

Well what Italian author draws onoy ayy lmaos?
Hint:

>>78467820

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dino battaglia

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>>78468124
>>78468179
Yeah the writer is Sclavi from Dylan Dog, drawings are from Cavazzano who would become famous for his work on Topolino. A&J is an early collaboration from two great authors.

>>78468239
I never thought Manara's characters look like ayy lmaos. But now I can't fucking unsee it, thanks Anon!

>>78468135
I don't want to jump to conclusion, so I'll ask. Are you talking about me anon to be american, or about the comic, or about the artist?

>>78468217
"Tutto ricominciò con un'estate indiana"

Girl is about to get raped, but can't post that on a christian image board!

>>78468268
Battaglia was the major ispiration point for Toppi if I am not wrong. Or it was the other way around?

>>78468217
Looks like Indians, therefore I can only assume that it's Indian Summer.

>>78468298
Unless your name is also Mirka, only the artist is named Mirka.

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Zerocalcare is the most popular webcomic these days. It doesnt get translated and uses roman dialect so probably nobody ever heard of it outside Italy.

>>78468277
Didn't you say you'd stop replying to me?

That's not the only problem with Manara, his women have all the same bodytype, it's some Stepford Housewives shit. I don't know how he got so big for them in the first place.

When he doesn't work on his own though and someone puts his ass in check he can do very good characters though, like in his Sandman comic.

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>>78468301
I can see where this is going

>>78468239
kek

>>78468365
>Zerocalcare is the most popular webcomic these days.

Not anymore, I'd argue >>78468044
is more popular now.

>>78468353
fuck me, I've fallen victim of Poe's law

>>78468375
>Didn't you say you'd stop replying to me?
You're anonymous, so nobody knows in subsequent posts that you were [triggered] unless you helpfully remind us that you were [triggered].

>>78468301
/aco/

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>>78468403
>>78468365
you're both wrong. We all know sadly who's the big deal at the moment

>>78468408
>You're anonymous, so nobody knows in subsequent posts that you were [triggered] unless you helpfully remind us that you were [triggered].

thatsthejoke.jpg
Also please drop the act, it's evident why you guys got butthurt in the first place. I'd even commend the attempt to keep the posts in-topic if there wasn't such an evident bias.

>>78468430
Ah fuck me you're right. I don't find them irritating or anything though, just really derivative of american webcomics (like "picture for sad children" and PBF) so his success is undeserved.

>>78468469
He just took the concept of the internet lolz and brought it in Italy where theyy are still pretty at first hand with this kinda of stuff.

>>78468430
Eh facebook gets everything late. It's 2015 and normies just now discovered lolsorandomXD jokes.

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>>78468554
>eyy

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>>78468579
>it will be 2025 and they'll use pepe

>>78468554
Yes but it's a specific brand of internet lolz, it's not exactly a rip-off but it's really derivative.

Kinda like what happened with Dylan Dog in the 90s.

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>>78468375
Well, he's a very good draftsman, I suppose that's why. Also his stories have that "continental" appeal that you see in a lot of French art and cinema (but not so much in comics), that type of, I want to say pretentious weirdness but that sounds a bit ignorant, I can't quite put it into words.
Didn't realise it was you but you did go back "on thread" and I'm not 12.

Another Italian cartoonist who I think is fucking great is Attilio Micheluzzi, he needs more English translations, amazing cartoonist.

>>78468430
>>78468365
porcodio stiamo parlando di fumetti non di merda

>>78468619
hey, I liked those kind of stories where they almost rip off specific stories
Terminator as the golem of prague was cool

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>>78468638
Oi. Stop that.
Se i mod ci vedono parlare in ita ci purgano il tread

>>78468638
Comics should always be "pop". Thinking comics should be artsy is why the italian comic world is quite unporductive and stale.

>>78468752
I thought it was for the fact that italians don't read comics anymore and the only major publishers are Bonelli and Disney.

>>78468752
>the italian comic world is quite unporductive and stale.
>>78468811
>that italians don't read comics

What the fuck are you guys talking about.
We had dozens of new authors and styles popping up in this decade alone and italian comics sell a lot, literally hundreds of times more than americans in the US.

>>78468847
we're starting now to get a move. Till this moment everything was pretty still with the exception of based Ortolani and his Rat-Man

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Well the most successfull thing that has came out of Italy in the last decade is this steaming piece of shit.

>>78469022
didn't barbucci draw that? or it was another?

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>>78469247
No Barbucci drew W.i.t.c.h.
Winx Club is from Straffi, who said a big "fuck you"
to Disney Italia.

>>78469367
Aaah yes, now I remember.

>>78469367
>based barbucci drew good looking girls from the very beginning.
how can a single man be so based.

>>78468430
>seeing sio on /co/
Worst day of my life.

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Any pdf files from Sclavi's "Dellamorte Dellamore" novel? I haven't had any luck in online book stores and such.

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This is Paolo Bacilieri, he's famous for his work on Napoleone (Bonelli) and some indipendent work, most notably Sweet Salgari, a biography of Emilio Salgari.

>>78469464
>Barbucci's answer to which witch is his favorite was Irma, "because she has big tits"

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>>78469367
>tfw non awful scanlation never
pepe.jpg

>>78467706
Requesting links for that, it sounds intredasting and not just in a scientific way.

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igort

>>78473255
Can't help you with that, sorry. I only ever read the german version and the main hub for german scanlation's dead for a year.

florg

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Only Italian comic I know of. Pretty comfy and light hearted comic