How's your Webcomic Thread 225

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Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV (embed)

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'scribblehatch' or 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
[YouTube] John Cleese on Creativity (embed) [Embed] [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>(NEW!) Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>>78465669
>>Wise words from John Cleese:
>[YouTube] John Cleese on Creativity (embed) [Embed] [Embed]
JEEEEEESUS.

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That feel when someone draws fanart of one of your characters out of nowhere.

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>>78465801
What's the problem here?

>>78465669
I checked the font sites, but are there any font sites where all fonts are available for non-profit and commercial use?

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>>78465892

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>>78465892
Nice.

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Finished holiday cheesecake as voted for by patrons.

Hope you guys have had a chill few days!

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Page 043 is finished a week early.

I think I'm just going to try to upload weekly from now on.

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Reposting my update from yesterday in case anybody missed it. What do you guys think?

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freshly updated with seven pages,

http://supercelestialcomics.tumblr.com/

>>78467004
I really like your drawings. I'm adding you.

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>>78466648
Also latest page.

bamp

Barump.

Off to a slow start.

At least the pages so far all have nice art.

>>78469337
Really? >>78467004 looks pretty ugly to me.

>>78469383
I think it has a nice simplistic artstyle.

I mean, its not amazing. But it's nice to look at.

>>78469383
I can see where you're coming from, friend, however, I feel the art style is somewhat esoteric.

The simplistic style and neutral colors gives the tone of this comic something of a surreal and dreamlike tone, which really tends to support the narrative pretty well, as the first three pages seem to be focused on dreams.

I'm also looking forward to see more of this work.

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Finished this page!

One of the activities for a thread, or this one, should be commenting on every page posted. Say one thing you like about it and one thing you dont.

>>78471028
Why don't we just let the work speak for itself?

>>78471028
Oh, it's you again.

>>78471028
You're that guy from yesterday who got all upset because people weren't commenting on your favorite artist's pages, aren't you?
High Poppy Syndrome Anon, right?

>>78471173
>>78471130
No, that would be me.

Faggots.

>>78471210
How convenient that you're also here.
And also Anonymous.
It's almost as if you could post both those things and get away with it or something.

>>78471224
Well I can tell you something funny.

That guy you're responding to, sure as hell knows he's not me.

You're just recruiting people to my dogma of "This thread is becoming worthless." You're showing it to him first fucking hand, aren't you?

>>78471249
>This thread is fucking worthless
>Still shows up every day

If you don't like it, why are you here?

>>78471265
I like this planet. You get off.

>>78471265
Welcome to 4chan.

>>78471379
Fuck off with that.

Sincerely, >>78471285

>>78471379
This depresses me more than it should.

>>78471413
Why are you being so negative? It's almost 2016, show more compassion for your fellow anons!

>>78471481
I'm the one fighting for positivity in case you hadn't noticed.

Everyone else is content to stew in shit.

>>78471538
that doesn't sound very positive...

>>78471538
No, you're fighting for people to respond to every single comic posted when there are many people in these threads who are only interested in a couple of the comics this thread regularly sees.

>>78471590
No. That's what the other anon was fighting for. I was fighting for people responding to this guy: >>78466880

This is what I find absurd about poking around in the dark, assuming which anon is which.

You have nothing to go on. But people have to take the time to tell you you're an idiot, and most of them don't. So you do it a lot with no consequence. Well good for you. You cunt.

Hope y'all are having a nice time these harsh winter monthHAHAHA

Its like fuckin 70 degrees here. Its Dec 28

>>78465892
mfw i had a dream last night that john cleese was a cashier at a burger place at a time when all burger places were adding random blue frosting to things, and I went to ask him what it was made of to make sure it wouldnt be gross, and he answered "sodium chloride and FD&C blue #5" and I was like oh phew that'll taste fine on a burger. and it did.

>>78467032
man what's with THEIR senses of humor? he was trying. It was no odder than the others.
>>78469337
That rhymes and you KNOW it rhymes, anon. ADMIT IT.

>>78471098
>>78471130
>>78471173
What's wrong with you guys? I was just suggesting an activity. There was nothing going on in this thread.

I didn't say you have to do it. Why is everyone here so sensitive that someone might say SOMETHING bad about a comic?

Are you guys webcomic writers or artists who don't want your work judged? Not even judged, it was just an opinion activity.

>>78472106
Nah but didn't you hear?

You're me. YOU'RE ME. FROM YESTERDAY.

SHAME ON YOU, ME

>>78472106
Sorry anon, there was another guy the other day who was saying pretty much the same thing, but was rather... aggressive about it.

It's not that anyone is afraid anyone is going to have something bad be said about their webcomic. Its just that that suggestion goes against the nature of what a 4chan thread is.

4chan is pretty much a sort of organized chaos. People come here and discuss things at their own pace, so when someone comes along and tries to dictate what people "should" and "shouldn't" do, it kind of rubs people the wrong way. Thats just the way 4chan operates.

>>78472187
Eat several dicks.

Without a beverage.

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>>78472171
We're not the same guy, just in case anyone still thinks so.

>>78472187
I wasn't demanding it. It was just a suggestion. It's one of those classic activities that people do when a lot of people share something.

Have you guys never done the "say one thing you like, and one thing you dont like about it" thing?

how do interactive comics work?
to have a following you gotta have posts
to have posts you gotta have a following

>>78472277
I understand, what I'm saying is, because of the whole Anonymous thing, people probably thought you were that guy, forcing his opinion on everyone again.

>>78472270
Thats quite an unproportionate reaction.

>>78472326
Forcing..?

Dude. Fall off a cliff and explode.

Good advice is good advice regardless how goshdarn mean the person was when they said it.

>>78472409
Okay there, Donald Trump.

I blame the current state of the thread on the OP not putting a pound sign before the thread number.

>>78472409
You're trying not convincing anyone. All you did was throwing tantrum like a five years old.

>>78472688
Go to the past thread, and copypaste that part of the tantrum here.

Pls.

>>78472805
As much as I would like to oblige you, anon. I really just want this whole thing to blow over.

>>78472883
I have a feeling you're not legit.

>>78467004

Nice. I'm curious to see where you'll go with this comic anon.

>>78470669
>you're just firends

>>78472320
That's actually one of the things these threads can do great. You automatically have a wee following
otherwise you start it out with a group of friends, or join a forum dedicated to these things (meaning there are people poring over threads to join in to many of them)

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>>78472671
>little did the denizens of the internet know that the sacred octhorpe was a sign repelling a demon of discord and strife

God, whatever y'all are whining about, its not posting progress or working on comics.

[Spoiler]quit it.[/spoiler]

>>78473102
Whoops I will fix.

>>78473102
at least he used the right you're!

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Working on my next comic

>>78473666
are laundromats expensive now?

>>78473712
They are in New Jersey.
Thats not the joke though

You know how some ATMs only dispense $20s?

>>78472409
If the advice is any good, the giver can dispense it like a rational adult, instead of an edgy 12 y.o. with an axe to grind.

>>78473749
oh fuuuuck

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Doing some Tumblr asks for my comic character, just to get a better handle on who she is, what she'd do and how she'd react.

Gonna do a couple, then do some more comic page roughs.

>>78473844
asks are fun!

Fun little question, webcomic anons. What do your work stations look like?
Post 'em!

Hey everyone, what are some good places to do networking with comic writers/artists/etc.?

>>78473966
I sit on the couch, my legs propped up on a chair, my laptop sitting on a pillow beside me, and my drawing tablet in my lap.

>>78473966
Behold!

>>78473966
I usually just have my laptop and tablet on my bed and sit on the side of the bed. Nothing fancy.

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>>78473966
I of course have a chair too. It has a blanket with a cat on it. That's what it mostly looks like though.

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>>78473966
*cough*
B-Behold!

>>78474052
>Dat traditional table
>Dem mangas
>Dem posted up on your wall drawings.

Mah man and/ or lady!

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I have a drafting table but it's covered in shit currently.

>>78474055
>Bernie 2016
Oh shit nigga what are you doing?

>>78474086
N-Nobody must know......

>>78474071
Lady. Hello, friend!

>>78473966
i just have my tablet sitting off to the side, and i slide it over my mousepad when it's time to draw

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>>78474055
it's dazzlemazing!

>>78474152
I just use my tablet as a mousepad most of the time.

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>>78474104
Truly your manga collection is amazing. but doth it surpass mine own?!

>>78474177
Thanks! That's dazzletastic!

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>>78474292
We mostly seem to collect different things. We both have FMA, Azumanga Daioh and Bauman though. I am most proud of my Tezuka collection even if I'm missing a fair amount. Not pictured are the mainstream, american\European indie, gothic lolita bibles and mimi comics from various professionals as well as former classmates. Those are in the bottom left cabnet. The bottom right cabnet has my dvds.

>>78474644
Bakuman. Stupid auto correct.

>>78474644
Not gonna lie, I am pretty jelly of your Tezuka collection.
You have good taste my dear.
Also, I really like your room, it has a classy Victorian feel to it.

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YES!

I finally did my first doodle on the tablet as promise.

I drew a giant dick. And I got myself a tumblr with...no pictures. http://character-limit-blog.tumblr.com/

>>78474740
first step in a long and beautiful climb

>>78474740
Congrats man!
Now go get yourself a copy of Paint Tool SAI you magnificent bastard.

>>78474747

Dude, How can I design a tumblr?

I wanted to be like that Bug-quest or lizard quest. Also, I need a beautiful background.

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>>78474724
Thank you and you too! My mother has a great knack for finding nice pieces on craigslist as well as not finding serial killers on there. My room has a few fans on /cgl/ as well.

Aaaand to keep the thread on track, an updated wip of some Mimi.

>>78474819
I feel like you're getting better at plotting out scenes.. but maybe you always were and I never noticed

>>78475126
I was out of practice. Happens when you don't really draw or make comics for months at a time.

>>78474740
Stop with the chicken scratches. You want long, straight lines. The the whole thing in one go. You might, if you're sketching, draw several lines over the top of each other until you get a good one, or an approximation of a good one. A lot of beginners see a professional quality sketch, and make the mistake of thinking that's what they're doing when they make short little chicken scratches. Top doing that though.

Also, let now that you'e gone digitial, the most important thing is to have your left pinky finger on the ctrl key, and the left ring finger on the z. When you're inking, you might end up undoing ten bad lines for every good one. It's the magic of digital.

>>78474819
Do you have anything in mind for panel 4? Because I picture Mimi exiting the stall with a smoldering crater in her wake in that panel.

>>78475684
Thats pretty much what it was going to be! I'm working so slow on this page because drawing a public bathroom is super boring.

>>78474819
This is super cute. Love the faces.

>>78475750
Thank you! Means a lot coming from you!

>>78475363
scratches are fine for a sketch though, then you can make a new layer and do the single lines over that.

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>>78475363

I am confuse
And scare
And even more confuse.

I just want make a story that little kids and teens will enjoy. Like charlie brown.

>>78475844
Anon's just trying to say, lots of artists get into the habit of making really chickenscratchy sketches. Hell, I'M still trying to get out of that habit. Once you've been doing it for years and years like I have, it's really hard to get out of the habit.

This is what I've been using. http://drawabox.com/lesson/1

What you did was looking good, but it's best to break the habit early on.

Don't be like me, Anon. YOU CAN BE DIFFERENT

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Hot from the oven!
It's Will Draw for Food!

>>78476093
oh shit. i think if youre that poor you have bigger problems..

>>78476208
I'm a webcomic artist, what did you expect?
Some weeks are good, some aren't, it all depends on how many commissions I get.

>>78475363
The sketches just act as a rough guide for the inks, they don't have to be ultra-precise.

>>78476520
This. or especially for proportioning, perspective, and placement.
but that advice does fully apply to inking. a lot of artists ink too sketchily, and very few can pull it off. too often we have the instinct to do things carefully and precisely and incrementally, but inking never looks good that way. so it's important to remember.

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Plop

>>78476677
Aww, I was hoping for a shot of the toilet being completely obliterated.

"Here come the bad dreams"
"Here come your hot bloodstream"
"Here come the shadow king, waiting for a scream!"

It is good? Or it is too cheesy?

>>78476704
Considering she would be standing in front of it to walk out, not sure how i'd really show that anyway. That and the destroyed toilet is more epic crap than woman on her period.

>>78476744
...so the tentacle monster DIDN'T come from the toilet?

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>>78476731
Great stuff maan

>>78476753
nope

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>>78476731
Last two lines would be here comes not here come.

>>78476753
No.

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>>78476815
>I thought only boys had tentacles

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I changed Kevin's text a little bit, to avoid another grammar war. Hope it's fine now.

Also, I stepped out of my comfort zone and added Kevin no Daibouken to Webtoon.
Not sure if people will see it there or even like it, but I decided to give it a try nontheless.

Only 5 pages left until this chapter is finally done.

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>>78476883
It's not from the same place.

>>78477117
what's webtoon then
>>78477204
>and that's what happens if you don't clean out your lint

>>78477241
It's a portal. Different things come and go.

>>78477267
So "that time of the month" is more like a very regular "the stars are right" than a biological function?

>>78476520
It doesn't have to be precise, but chicken scratches are bad practice. You should be drawing full clean lines with every stroke. it's like using your full shoulder or getting into a comfortable position when you draw. It's good practice.

>>78477117
>>78477241
I didn't even post a link. Would have been helpful, I guess.
http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/kevins-big-adventure-kevin-no-daibouken/list?title_no=16387

>>78477308
Think of it like how horror movies like to think about halloween. "The wall between the spirit and human realm is thinned" and all that. I should clarify, her portal doesn't connect to hell. I should also clarify, she is a monster all the time, she just doesn't have massive amounts of tentacles coming from her mid section all the time. Just one named Charles that's nice. The not nice tentacles usually carry spatulas.

>>78477362
I'd like to see her cooking something.

>>78477362
Actually now that you mention it I wasn't quite clear on whether there was supposed to be several tentacles coming out of the stall up in >>78476677 or just one tentacle wriggling all over (like, maybe Charles was using a spatula/fly swatter to help her smack some unseen thing that was trying to escape) - and if there were several tentacles, I wasn't sure if they were different creatures or just more parts of Charles. Maybe make the different tentacles look different to make sure there's no way to make that mistake?

>>78477429
Calamari. Sometimes you gotta teach those tentacles who's boss.

>>78477456
There will be a color difference between these other tentacles and Charles. Maybe I'll give Charles a dapper little hat just to be sure and these guys will be different colors.

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>>78477362

>tfw people message you that your webcomic is shit and try to give you advice
how do you deal with the haters?

>>78478345
Whats your webcomic? Maybe it is shit

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>>78478345

>>78478345
if theyre trying to give you advice, treat them as genuine and talk to them like you would anyone

>>78478345
>give you advice
>haters

pick one

>>78478345
Even Michael Angelo was criticizes and hated for the Sistine chapel.

there's no way you can get rid of "haters"

>>78476093

I think I have seen exactly one ATM in my entire life that dispensed bills in increments lower than $20 bills.

They're definitely hard to come by...

>>78478770
I've seen a few. major bank ones are better.
>>78478727
to be fair michelangelo was a goddamn hack. The fact that he was fucked with by the authorities in a cruel and unfair way notwithstanding

>>78465661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiFxNW_AfoQ

>>78478770
Chase is starting to have more ATMs that dispense as low as $1. There's only one or 2 though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYn7scKMiKA

>>78478345
If it's good advice, take it.

If they're telling you it's shit, laugh at them and ignore them.

>>78478832
>Michaelangelo was a hack

Case in point. Ignore people like this.

>>78478972
dude come on. He was a genius too, it's not mutually exclusive

>>78478345

>>78478832
>"to be fair michelangelo was a goddamn hack."

see what I mean?

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>>78479048
okay okay hack isnt the right word
but he was severely flawed and worthy of some solid criticism. especially his paintings of women

>>78479214
You forget, anon. Most of the demographic here is 18-35, and for the most part the people who go to this thread are likely art students of one degree or another. So of course they are taught that Michelangelo is one of the classical greats.

Your paradigm here is likely more fitting in the company of art professors and historians. While I agree no one is immune to scrutiny, be aware of your audience.

>>78479214
You can't really approach a historical artist without an understanding of their context, anon - even though they're kinda silly from a modern perspective, criticizing Michelangelo for his female anatomy is like criticizing Hokusai for not using a tablet.

>>78479325
Idk man, when I went to art school and we spoke about him we laughed at the man boobs. I mean, it was illegal to have female nude models or something but like, damn, did he never see a woman before? Dude had to know he messed up.

>>78479369
Haha, I'll give you that, and I'll have to admit everything after the Greeks in Art History bored me, so I didn't pay much attention.

But also don't forget Da Vinci and Michelangelo were alive at the same time, so even though Da Vinci brought a greater understanding of anatomy to the world, it was still a fledgling thing.

Then again, I'm the one who slept through half of Art History, so I could be wrong on some things.

>>78479469
Not to mention, what DaVinchi was doing was illegal (I think). So his knowledge wasn't wide spread by any means.

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>>78479469
Forgot to give context to this.
For example, look at these cave paintings.
Jeez, don't these guys known how to draw woman?
I mean come on.
My point here being that there was not much of a pretext to "properly" drawing a woman. At least not to my knowledge.

>>78479494
Da Vinci did a ton of illegal things. Thats what makes him all the more bad ass.

Used to make comics during class in high school. Silly comedy comic about three dumb ducks that work in an office. Shame that I lost these short comics when I moved out of my moms house.

Either way, I have a ton of comic idea's and worked out... in my head not on paper. There are two idea's that I really want to work out on paper, both are pretty deppresive with psychological themes.

In short, the first idea is about a retired hit man who lost both his wife and daughter. He can't accept the fact that his wife and daughter are both dead what leads to him becoming mentally unstable. He supresses the fact that his family died and starts seeing them. His wife tells him to kill the ones that made her and their daughter suffer. So the mercenary dusts off his gear and the game of vengeance begins. But his mental health falls further to the point it's not just about vengeance or profession anymore but madness.

The second idea I really need to work out on paper first to make it explainable. But I think it's rather novel material than comic material due the heavy subjects.

>>78479516
If you can't tell that its a woman, you didn't draw a woman right. Unless the artist has a different intention of course.

>>78479325
well desu when they reacted negatively to me saying that, i assume THEY assumed I was just attacking the greats to seem edgy and hip, which most non-art-college colleges usually do

>>78479327
you saying they hadn't invented good drawings of women yet? or are you saying like those people who claim
>medieval pre-renaissance art had shitty perspective because that's the way people wanted it, not that they hadn't worked out the techniques yet
that people WANTED women painted like men with terrible tits glued on?
becasue I think ol' mick was just a faggoo

>>78479553
IME, ideas in your head are worth less than the paper you'd write 'em on. Head ideas are wriggly and won't hold still long enough for you to really look at them objectively.
Get that shit nailed down and on file.

>>78479469
>>78479494
truly a strange era in european history. way too permissive in a lot of ways, ludicrously forbidden in others. That's roman influence for you
>>78479516
eh? cave paintings show excellent anatomy. and those are almost definitely men.. one of whom appears to have been torn in half

>>78479553
Pretty much what this anon >>78479646 said.

Right now your idea may exist in your head, but as far as the rest of the world knows, it doesn't exist at all.
The most anyone in this world knows about your story is this little six sentence tid bit you've got here.
You want to make your story a reality? Get to work.

>>78479679
>excellent anatomy
>almost definitely
>almost
>probably
>but maybe not
>but maybe they are...

You see where I'm going with this I hope.

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i am not going to be "ending" my "hiatus" until i have a little more stockpiled, but these are the first strips i've made in over a month and it feels nice

so i'm sharing

>>78479821
I laughed.

>>78479735
only fools deal in absolutes
though the modern fool deals only in absolute middles and that's even stupider

>>78479646
100% this. I'd also like to add that once you start writing your ideas down, refining them becomes a whole lot easier.

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>>78479848
then this one is for you

Have you seen the right hand of Michaelangelo's David? Way too big. The guy knew fuck all about human proportions. 400 years later and he still hasn't improved. Fucker's a regular Dobson. Loomis.

>>78479821
Oh man, I didn't even know how much I'd missed you.
Good to see you're still around.

>>78479821
How do you manage to craft such an... emotional burrito?

>>78479864
If I ate meat, that burger would be amazing. I may actually try that with a meat substitute.

>>78479646
True, actually started drawing the designs for the story but I probably should write out the full story first.
Been thinking about these two idea's for three years, about time that I make them reality.

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>>78479954
Good luck anon!
Here's something for you.

>>78479982
Oh, come on. Don't post Hack Pencils here. You coulda just posted the original quote.

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alright last one for now

back to the grind or whatever

>>78480012
What's wrong with Zen Pencils?
I love his work.

>>78479954
Yeah, two years of fiddling is definitely past where I'd be able to keep everything straight just in my head.

>>78465906
Blambot has a selection of royalty free fonts.

>>78480019
Did you get the fruit hat idea from that weird kickstarter?

>>78480037
Well I mean his art kinda sucks but the man shows a misunderstanding of how the world works and does nothing but slab his ignorance on good quotes.

>>78480037
It's pretty pretentious and his head is kinda up his own ass.

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>>78480054
actually fruit hats are kind of a recurring joke i guess

>>78480082
>>78480099
I don't know anything about the guy himself, but his illustrated work for the quotes was something that motivated me to get working on my goals and dreams.

Difference of opinion, I suppose.

>>78480119
OH
I thought it was hats FOR fruit not hats with fruits on it.

>>78480019
Has it ever been explained if he's adopted or something?

>>78480175
no but that's actually pretty good

expect a comic about tiny hats for fruit

>>78480216
You can thank that weird kickstarter I saw once.

>>78480194
i did an arc with his dad who is also a cat but i guess he could technically also be adopted

>>78480099
I'm not surprised you'd say something like this.

>>78480125
You don't really have to know about him personally. He seems to think that a white supremacist learning about other cultures will make him not racist magically.

>>78480292
Please illuminate me, this is news to me.

>>78480317
That was one of his most popular comics. It was everywhere. A white supremacist goes on vacation to other countries and learns about the cultures and then he's not racist anymore. I can't speak for everyone but considering the racism in my family was only made worse by spending time with people not of our race, I can't agree with how he seems to think that will work.

>>78480380
He's got a point that racism stems from ignorance.

Sorry your family's a bunch of cunts though.

>>78480292
>>78480380

Oh wait, are you talking about the one comic with the guy who's a klansman, travels the world, learns about their cultures and comes back a changed person?

I think you misunderstand the point of the comic. The character is a representation of a close-minded person (case in point, a white supremacist)
It is only after the man travels the world and comes to LEARN about different cultures that he understands the value in them all, and learns to broaden his horizons.
The white supremacist is representative of a close-minded person.

I'm guessing I'm bound to get a lot of shit for defending what is apparently a controversial comic. I honestly thought the point of the comic was clear enough.

>>78480489
It stems from ignorance AS WELL AS life experience ie. bad experiences with a people of a certain race. My family, myself included, has had constant bad experiences with a certain group of people and while I try to put my experiences behind me, my family holds grudges.

>>78480529
If you think close minded people are so easy to change their opinion, even with education, you have a brand of optimism I wish I could duplicate and sell.

ITT: Webcomic creators unironically defending Zen Pencils

>>78480674
You mean the one guy?

Thanks for summarizing the last ten posts

>>78480658
He who travels knows the world.

I've spent some time myself traveling all across most of NorthEastern USA when I was younger.
Try it my man, it's definitely a character building experience.

>>78480674
It's pretty much just me, my friend.

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>>78476815
>>78476779

>Reading the poetry.

It sound like I am writing a terrible metal band song. I need to rewrite it.

>>78480622
>my family had bad experiences with some people
>therefore I judge all people of a similar race because of it

So ignorance, and just old fashioned stupidity of course.

I'll have to assume you're making up the bad experiences too.

>>78480747
My dad has traveled the world alone and is racist as fuck. No joke, he used to play a game called hit the jew. If you hate people you kinda just hate people.

>>78480747
Jim, /gfg/ needs a drawfag. You in?

>>78480828

He isn't a pedophile!

Yet...

>>78480803
Poor guy.
That's a shame, sorry anon.

I won't lie, there are some pretty terrible people out there. Like... REALLY terrible people.
But there are good people out there too.

>>78480828
/gfg/?
Never been there. What do they need?

>>78480796
I'm not the one who's racist. My massive therapy bills say the bad experiences were very real, though.

>>78480865
Ooooooh...

>>78480876
I believe the therapy part, at least. Not the rest.

>>78480868
They made a "perfect girlfriend" for Gravity Fall's creator and want someone to draw her.
>>78480865
Yeah, gfg has a bad wrap for pedos sadly

>>78480803
taking the greyhound from South Carolina all the way to North Carolina doesn't exactly count as travelling the world, anon.

>>78480914
I wouldn't wish what happened to me on you, bro. On anyone. I really...really don't.

>>78480963
I'll pop on over and see what's up.

>>78480969
He wasn't a hick, anon. He was a city slicker accountant who has traveled to many countries. He's just an angry person. Some people are like that.

>>78479893
well he had perspective right, and in a brilliant way.. making a statch get literally larger as it goes up, so it looks weirdly proportional and smaller when viewed from below. I love shit like that
Then you have statues like that one guy on the horse where the way it's angled, he has a big dong sticking out

>>78481009
Thanks!

>>78479932
you know what makes a fantastic meat substitute?
meat

>>78481093
I'm allergic.

>>78480803
I have met several people who studied Middle Eastern culture and picked up Arabic or Turkish; they visited the countries as well-informed scholars who knew about the social and historical background and had the best intentions in mind towards Islamic culture and history. They all came back completely disgusted at Islam saying that it's the worst thing conceivable. Actual fact vs. Zen Pencils' naive masturbation.

Zen Pencils chronically misunderstands quotes from people who earned the right of saying what they said from experience. He's the ultimate idiot who misses the point entirely and pats himself on the back for it.

>>78480019
his mom is human?
also, my siiiides.
>>78480054
isnt it kind of a chiquita thing

>>78480216
>tiny hats for fruit
so.. the calyx?

>>78480292
I mean, that's a start

>>78481149
bullshit

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>>78480234
>5 backers
>$42.00 pledged of $3,000 goal
>0 seconds to go
My sides have split

when's the best time to update?

>>78480380
>the racism in my family was only made worse by spending time with people not of our race
Racists are shitty people who live in shitty places
Shitty places make shitty people.
a white redneck from alabama spending time with a black nigger from alabama two streets over isnt going to give either a good impression of each other's race, but either of them spending time around, say, uncle phil or mister rogers, will start them in the right direction

>>78480748
i-i like terrible metal lyrics

>>78481121
... wouldn't you die if you were allergic to meat?

>>78480803
that's because everywhere you go, people shit on the jews.. and the further they went from home the kinda shittier people they became. Too insular, y'know, at a time when god wanted them to maybe cut down on the insularity a tad but they missed the message
>>78481149
and that's because islam is just shit. doesnt mean arabs didn't used to be prty cool

>>78481419
The point was not about Islam, it was about Zen Pencils being a retard.

>>78481394
No. Meat isn't necessary for life. I get by on tofu just fine.

Hey guys, if you want to talk about racism and social issues shit, go to /pol/.

Quit shitting up this thread.

>>78481450
You're MADE of meat
Or are you just specifically allergic to the pig, the cow, and the chicken? Because there's a lot more than that to eat.
and anyway you need to farm bacteria like crazy to get B12, and even that is a very iffy source, which they say is only a pseudo-B12.

>>78481590
B12 doesn't come from meat either. It comes from dirt and well water. I take supplements. Most meat eaters are deficient in B12 too, ya know. I simply digest meat poorly and it makes me ill. Why push it? Im not telling you to stop eating it.

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here you guys go.

>>78481656
>>78481590

HOW is this relevant to webcomics? STFU

>>78481693
No anon, this isn't a webcomic thread. It's a general discussion about religion, racism, and food thread.

>>78481656
Oh, you're not allergic then. just intolerant.
>>78481693
some of us have real allergies and don't want our disability being appropriated! haha sorry no i'll stfu
>>78481673
nothin' like a comic being too openminded and too closedminded at once!

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Everyone shut up and have a tentacle cat.

>>78481783
i demand a triple tentacat plush

>>78481802
Thats the plan. I would have no idea how to go about that though even if Mimi becomes popular.

You did it again guys. Bravo.

Another shitty webcomic thread.

Hopefully the last half of this train wreck can be salvaged.

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>>78481828
basically all these people focusing on 3d printers... one of them needs to split off and start making a machine that makes plushes.. because right now they're difficult as fuck, as labor-intensive as they are tough to get right

>>78481962
The one thing I could think of is that a former classmate did a kickstarter for a plushie design. It didn't get funded but I mean I assume she had a factory lined up. I could get someone she likes to ask her seeing as she thinks I'm terrible.

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belongingtonobody.tumblr.com

>>78482394
Yeah that works.. That makes sense. Woo.
I think I'd like it if he was turned a bit in that last panel, or tilted up a bit more. He doesn't seem to have reacted enough to the dude approaching.. and I guess a slightly tilted angle would have been nice. But it's all okay.

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Just posted Monday's Comixscape. I'm going on a trip until the 5th tomorrow so I wanted to get ahead so the site can update without me but unfortunately I'm still 1 page short of that. Gonna try to push through for a second all-nighter now to see if it's possible to do this last one, otherwise next Monday will have no update.

>>78482782
This looks great as ever man!
What program do you use?

>>78482782
Man, this looks GREAT. I love those inks.

Holding back a bitchy response on an anal retentive correction on a 6 year old page sure is hard.

I'm debating /hyw/, should I head to bed, or pull an all nighter for a super long, 100th comic special comic?

>>78483959
If you have nothing important to do tomorrow, all nighter.

>>78484009
I do though, I got to a public speaking improvement meeting every Monday.
But my webcomic is also due to update tomorrow as well.
Therein lies my dilemma.

>>78484031
The job that earns you money is the most important.

>>78484115
So... the webcomic?
The public speaking meeting is something I go to of my own volition. It helps me improve my teaching skills.

>>78484148
Comic makes the money? Do the comic.

>>78484164
Coolio, thanks bro.
And yeah, you've just got to know how.

>>78484182
No probs. I wasn't asking how. Just sayin' if it makes the money you do that. Maybe someday mine will make some monies.

>>78484210
Tapastic, bro

>>78484227
My comic isn't even out there yet. Taptastic pays though? Good to know. Do they have a rule against posting your comic on other sites?

>>78484263
Nah man, it's a hosting site, but its a great place to connect with other webcomic artists.
They use to have a Support Program, where people could support you, similar to Patreon.
Now though, they have this Ad revenue program, where you get small increments of money for every pageview you get (people make impressions on the ads on your page, and you get a small amount for every view.)

Here, check my comic out.
http://tapastic.com/series/Will-Draw-for-Food

>>78484311
>http://tapastic.com/series/Will-Draw-for-Food
I dunno if you're drawing yourself or not but I sent that Christmas post to a friend of mine because it looks just like him. Suits his personality too. Thanks for the info. I'm kinda unsure how to handle things but I'll figure it out eventually.

>>78484380
Haha, thanks! I'm glad I could make something he might enjoy!
It a representation of me, but I try not to make the comic specifically about me, like some other webcomic artists do. It's more about the situations that come with being a webcomic artist.

Good luck anon! I'm here if you need me.

>>78484432
He ended up buying eggnog. That makes sense. My comic is similar in a way. Mimi is technically about a twisted version of my daily life even though I clearly don't respond to people the same way she does. Also tentacles but meh.

>>78484527
I should mention, I tried to make some of the things Mimi does more female specific as opposed to being only about my experience in life.

>>78484527
>>78484550
Haha, well I enjoy it. Mimi looks like a fun comic.
Personally, I love comedy/ slice of life comics written by ladies, it's fun to get a perspective from a girl's point of view.

Mimi looks like a fun, twisted, eldrychian twist on those kinds of comics.

>>78484608
Truth be told, Mimi was me being very annoyed with those people that always seem to have a snappy comeback to anyone that says anything to them. Someone says something to Mimi and she just continues with her life. She doesn't shove it to the man, she does what makes her happy.

Anyhow, thanks for your kind words! Good luck!

>>78484721
that is damn healthy i tell you what
i used to be the one wishing I had snappy comebacks

>>78483458
What?

I hope you guys seriously try to improve you art.

Some of you seem content with really poor quality.

>>78481850
You added nothing just now.

You just pointlessly want to be the cool babysitter. I say pointlessly, because you're gaining no reputation from this. You see that green name in the upper left hand of your post? Anonymous? No one knows who you are. Stop acting like this.

Because all it does, will make me respond to you. And I'm the one you have the original complaint with. These threads are turning into garbage.

>>78484795
they're strong and independent webcomic artist who don't need good art.

>>78484785
I think everyone wishes to be that person sometimes. As I get older though, I find that being a jerk back to someone that was a jerk to you feels good but solves nothing.

>>78484838
I'd like to enjoy their works though.

I think they could appreciate me enjoying them because I can be a very supportive fan.

They just dunno what they're missing though.

>>78484795
some are stagnating, others are making steady progress week after week. Pretty typical in any given art community.

>>78484934
Perhaps saying where they could improve would help some. Even if they don't listen, at least you tried.

>>78484935
>Pretty typical in any given art community.
I dunno.

This seems a little defeatist.

>>78484997
Not everybody's going to improve their art. You can't make them. Otherwise everybody would be a great artist and there would be nothing special about being a great artist.

>>78485051
>Not everybody's going to improve their art.
I'm comfortable giving up on Dewd until he's somewhere in his 20s.

But by and large I don't just give up on people so fast.

>>78485083
Maybe you ought to work on improving yourself, anon.

Lord knows there's plenty of room.

>>78484795
howbout everyone try to improve and everyone be content with everything also

>>78485138
I think you're right.

But this may be a little obtuse.

>>78485160
it's like having your cake and eating it too. You can't go through life push push pushing all the time like an edwardian englishman, but you can't be a flabby bobby hill who doesnt give ten fucks what happens.. You have to push and be content because both of them are vital to success*

*depending on your stress levels and how you react to self-motivation

>>78484795
You can't tell where someone's at in their art journey, man. Some people just started drawing this year, three years ago, ten years ago maybe. I don't think a lot of people in these threads have been drawing or even pursuing art seriously their entire lives. I think it's a pretty harsh thing to say "oh you're all content with poor quality". You can't tell where they are, where they have improved from.

I looked back at my yearly art summaries from two years ago and I was shocked at how much I improved in just that short amount of time. That's the same for pretty much everyone else, too, you don't really see the improvement or overall growth in one image. Am I rambly? I feel rambly.

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>>78485223
Love that you pointed that out anon, thats actually exactly what my 100th comic special is about.
Here's the WIP

Yes, that's Chardonnay
Yes, that's also /ic/-tan

>>78485292
Cool cool cool. I'm looking forward to see your improvement in the next few years, honestly.

>>78485322
Thanks!

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>>78482816
I keep things low-tech and just use a sable brush and ink. Only digital elements are the screentones I make and the text. Thanks!

>>78482855
Thanks man! It's been fun to finally get to this point in the last couple pages of the chapter.

>>78484795
With stuff even as recent as the latest page I've seen myself hitting a couple walls so it's definitely getting more clear to me what needs to be worked on. Planning to study more of what I need to learn during my vacation time.

>>78485333
That's pretty schway man.
You are definitely going places!

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>>78484795
I need to...

Work on my colors
Work on my anatomy.
Work on my everything.

I trying make a character less flat. And background more exciting.

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>>78485348
Thanks dude! Liking your stuff too. In fact setting up a straight gag strip is one of my goals within the next few months. I like the sorta depressing undertone present in a few of the strips.

>>78484795
There's a part of me that wants to do one of those New Years "year in review" things where you post an example of art, one each month, January thru December.

Though I'm reluctant too. I think I've improved. People always tell me I'm constantly improving. I'm just never satisfied.

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Long comic is LOOOOOOONG

>>78485503
Thanks dude. I like to consider it a "healthy dose of reality"

>>78485333
Your panels are always well done, demonstrating a considerable amount of technical knowledge. Not even factoring in the consistent art, you are still clearly one of the most learned comic artists in these threads.

How long have you been doing comics? Did you just pick up the know how from reading comics?

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>>78478345
You host your webcomic on deviantart and disable comments. People who give advice aren't haters; you can't expect your work to improve if you don't listen to citicism

>>78480292
I THOUGHT I had seen that artstyle somewhere
I actually like the /pol/ edit much better

>>78482782
Excellent motion there, keep it up!

>>78484795
To be fair now, plenty of people here are just hobbyists. Sometimes life just doesn't give you a break

>>78485333
Call me an unimaginative retard, but how do you have that text on the actual paper? The only thing that comes to my mind is printing the text, cutting it out into bubbles and gluing it to the page.

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This is all I can manage tonight. I am tired as hell. Didn't take any coffee on this all nighter.

I've only got a few panels left, I'll finish this up tmrw.

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Well I just started in on this a bit over a month ago. A webcomic's been something I wanted to try for years, finally mustered up the gumption to take a shot at it and try to stick to a schedule.

Still trying to figgure a lot out, not least of which page layout and panel composition. I'm not super jazzed with hosting on Tumblr, I should look into something else, or just getting better with using what I have.

Anyway. Pic related is one of the more recent and better pages, I think. Link goes to starting page permalink.

http://raggedcomic.tumblr.com/post/133051920825/one-stormy-evening-on-a-long-forgotten-shore-a

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>>78486163
Thank you, glad I'm still messing around with the medium (had no idea I'd be doing 100+ pages of this series).

To answer your question, Comixscape honestly documents most of my "serious" comic progress, so it's been a couple years. And yeah, I try to pick up some things from who I find to be the masters.

>>78486314
Thank you, doing spotted blacks on the following page right now! It's one of those pages I've wanted to get to for a loooong time.

>>78486475
You figured it out. It's just something I picked up from Jeff Smith a couple years ago. There are a few reasons I tend to prefer doing it this way...

1. I tend to be a bad judge of the proper size t give a word balloon for the amount of dialogue needed at times, even with writing it out on the page (particularly if things get a tad dialogue heavy). This helps me get the sizing right, and can count for a lot when I need the space.
2. I like not having to think about typing all the words out after scanning the page. Especially if I'm working with black and white, I want everything after the actual drawing to be quick so I can get it out.
3. I just like how it makes the actual original art readable in the same way as the final picture.

I can see why others wouldn't bother though. I found out later that this is a common practice in manga too, with the editors themselves pasting the typed dialogue in on the pages.

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Instead of doing other character sheets, I decided to try drawing a short instead to get used to Manga Studio 5. Oh boy, was it a good idea. Even rough sketches/layouts of pages (pic related) take a considerable amount of time; after finishing the whole thing I'll have to count how much it took and probably seriously reconsider the scope of the main comic I wanted to draw.

>>78486788
This is pretty smart! I wouldn't think about it since I was always typing the text in by hand. I can easily imagine drawing text bubbles too big and slow. I thought comic artists working with traditional media don't draw bubbles on the page at all and only add them digitally after scanning.

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This page is one of the easiest pages I've drawn in a while.

I'll probably be finished with it in a day or two.

>>78486581
Out of curiosity, why not just draw yourself instead of that girl character? I assume the story in this strip is heavily based on yours.

>>78486696
Is this some kind of choose your own adventure? And that creepy smile really reminds me of the flower from Undertale.

>>78479640
just shows how ignorant you are - androgyny was in then. the male body was considered the only canon body, and women's bodies were merely imperfect versions of it (this goes back to the Adam and Eve dichotomy.) As a result, the folks considered most ideal in their appearance were feminine men and manly women (a reverse example is in The Da Vinci Code when they talk about da Vinci's John the Evangelist "really" being Mary Magdalene.)

ITT: Sanic-tier webcomic creators unironically talking shit on Michelangelo.

>>78486314
>To be fair now, plenty of people here are just hobbyists. Sometimes life just doesn't give you a break
I'm speaking to the ones who I can tell take it a little more seriously than doodles. For example,I wouldn't really get into >>78479821 's grill about this because that art seems pretty serviceable for what he's after.

But in the case of >>78482782 's work- and I'm just selecting this one at random- I can see very obvious skew-y looking errors, easily remedied by constantly flipping the view during work on it.

Hobbyist or not, you wanna be all that you can be when you're creating.

I hate to be all gloom about this though. I just want to let people there is an audience waiting to appreciate a greater level of effort.

>>78485402
>I trying make a character less flat
I think you may greatly benefit from looking at some Capcom characters from all across the board, and take your time observing their design patterns.

>>78487586
No doubt! That's the kind of stuff I was referring to >>78485333. I'm at a point where these things desparately need to be confronted, and running into those walls makes the process less enjoyable.

>>78487680
Not that guy but I realized that as much as I like your stuff, I've never actually commented on it once in these threads. I really, really like it, especially but not just the artwork. Also love seeing others work traditionally, too.

>>78487780
Hey, thanks for letting me know anon! Do you do traditional too then? For me I'd say it was Jeff Smith and Bryan Lee O' Malley that really got me to take that route.

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>tfw can't keep to a schedule
How do you guys do it? I always end up working way past midnight and still not getting everything done.

>>78487837
>How do you guys do it?
Just barely. My update from the weekend didn't get finished until the morning the site was supposed to update.

>>78487586
Of course, I'm not saying people should just be complacent. I'm just saying you can't expect the same level of quality here as you would someone who does webcomics for a living.
That said, if people are going to post here they should expect to get criticism; I don't care if it's "mean", but if people are going to give you their honest opinion and you WANT to improve then nothing is gained by just ignoring them.

>>78487837
I personally treat it a *bit* more like work in that I set a time asside every day for me to work on it (say, one hour after I get back from work, one hour after dinner, for example).
What personally helped me a lot was giving myself a time limit of how much I was allowed to work on certain aspects (for example: max 4 hours on pencils), so that I'm not contantly going back and ficking things.
Of course, unexpected things can always happen during the day that will throw your whole scedule out through the window.

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>>78487829
Yup - partly for the aesthetic, partly because I didn't get a tablet until the beginning of 2012. I love those artists you named and folks like Clowes and Ware, but I can't ink as well as any you guys! I also really like the look of watercolor, like in Simon Hanselmann or Noah Van Sciver's stuff. Like sure, there's stock textures, but that's not half as fun or specific.

>>78488009
I've seen quite a number of artists, who had no plans to make art their livelihood, make art their livelihood.

So regardless, good art never hurts. It's something aspire to all of the time.

I sincerely hope nobody in these threads are actually expecting to make it in webcomics, the existing competition is already really stiff out there. New webcomics need to be more than just good to break through and I see nothing here that even comes close to being good.

>>78488346
>the existing competition is already really stiff out there. New webcomics need to be more than just good
Have you actually seen what popular webcomics are like? It's more sheer luck to make it big, actually good webcomics usually have to work much harder to get a niche following.

>>78488372
Man don't try to make webcomics seem that different from anything else.

The same is true of video games, movies, books, etc.

What you just said, is true of ALL ENTERTAINMENT. We, as webcomickers, are not special. Do not dream of calling us special.

There is a method to this madness. And it isn't as new as the medium.

>>78488009
>more like work in that I set a time aside every day for me to work on it

I've tried that but I feel like every time I just end up ignoring my plan and just doing whatever.
And obviously the thing to do is to just not ignore your plan but I just can't figure out how.
(how do I spend over an hour writing just two sentences? Ugh)

what do i do if i have a bunch of good ideas for individual events but i'm bad at stringing them into a story?

just say fuck it and go for it anyway because it means getting something done for once in my life?

p.s how do i make a mostly pointless story (where 99% of what the protagonist does is in vain and whatever small victories they attain are ultimately hollow) still feel rewarding to the reader?

>>78476731
Hot bloodstream? Dear fuck. No. Change that.

>>78488483
There's so many examples of objectively weak work making super money because it has the right appeal, hits at the right time, etc. 50 Shades of Grey is literally a Twilight fanfiction with edited names that was a bestseller and made into a movie. Twilight was not very strong from a literary standpoint either, but it's very popular and profitable. There are plenty of webcomics out here that are very popular and profitable, but barely function as well-crafted art objects.

>>78488483
Did you reply to the wrong comment or are you just mentally challenged? He said nothing about webcomics being special, he literally only pointed out that there's a lot of luck involved with which one becomes successful.

>>78488581
Look up some story templates like the hero's journey or three-act structure or whatever, those might help you figure out all the inbetween moments.

>>78488638
>There are plenty of webcomics out here that are very popular and profitable, but barely function as well-crafted art objects
But they all have SOMETHING that one can point out as a reason why they're so popular and profitable. Take QC as an example: it's a lousy comic in every way but it's also every comfy inoffensive sitcom personafied and masses eat that shit up.
The comics in these threads are just lousy with no feature or "thing" that could make them popular despite the lack of quality.

>>78486943
Well this is my 100th comic, which is a huge milestone for me. So I wanted to give something nice back to my readers.

The comic I have here talks about the artistic journey, and is going to be referring to the character as "you," as in the protagonist of this comic is the reader. So instead of myself, I'm using a protagonist that the reader can (hopefully) imprint on.

>>78488701
I can agree with most of that - except I think that there are a few comics here that have "break through" potential even if most of them don't.

>>78488701
I'm just curious. Have you looked at every comic in this thread? Or at least read some of them?

>>78489359
Don't even pay attention to them. Just get back to work.

>>78488701
But you initially said "new webcomics need to be more than just good" and that is flat out wrong, as you admit yourself. They just need to have one "thing" that stands out and ressonates with people. I mean I get that you are frustrated and depressed, so you came ITT to throw out a generic insult and call everyone shit, but you just come off as someone who is a bit slow in the head.

>>78489428
You're not my boss. I actually want to know.

>>78490307
Fine, if you want to be discouraged and distracting from creating, have at it. I'll get back to work and be one step closer to getting what I want.

I'm not saying don't listen to the guy if he offers advice. If he just leaves vague statements don't pay him any mind.

>>78486696
nice wiggly letters!
>>78486869
cute manga Marcie detected
I know she's not going to be that naked in the final product but somehow I can dream. and it looks like she's pulling his hair over to tug his head towards her vagoo. maybe I need to just go draw that. sketches always give me ideas.

>>78486943
Everyone wants to be the little girl
>>78486871
i love it when easy pages happen. gives you a little break
>>78487221
decent theory, but the art doesnt bear that out at all

I haven't been to these threads in awhile, are they ALWAYS as hostile as this and the last one?

>>78489938
>so you came ITT to throw out a generic insult and call everyone shit, but you just come off as someone who is a bit slow in the head.
You really need to learn how to take some negative feedback without throwing a tantrum if you want to grow as an artist and become even remotely successful. And get out of this hugbox.

>>78487586
>pretty serviceable
just fyi, Furblscrop is like Brad Neely. Phenomenal artist that intentionally uses what looks like a naive style because it suits the offbeat subject matter. You can see it in the flash animations he does.
It's easy to get fooled, that's why you should be careful making judgments based on quick observations

>>78490636
they usually are, or at least have been recently

>>78490671
Not that anon but your negative feedback is totally unhelpful. You're not being specific in any way, just saying generic insults that none of us can work to fix in any way given the information you are refusing to give. Your comic sucks is a useless statement.

>>78489359
Have YOU looked at the comics in these threads? Name two comics posted that are even remotely okay to the point that they ever have a chance of attracting a decent reader base.
Protip: you can't.

>>78488701
making the claim that you can identify the "thing" a comic needs in order to be successful with idiots is not exactly painting you in a flattering light. you know that, right?

>>78490636
nah it's only been this way for the last three. the prior five or so have been really neat actually. and so have these, in between.

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A page from my webcomic: oasis

Question, if your working with a writer friend and doing the art how do you all handle encountering situations that your inexperienced with as an artist (drawing animals/cars/complex geography) I'm at such a situation and am trying to bone up but obviously page schedual gets pushed back due to inexperiance.

Also do you think there is a place for adlib between artist and writer? The pic included is an example of me throwing in some jokes.

Shameless plug: www.patreon.com/oasiswebcomic

I just want to say that I think you all are doing great work in your own personal way. The amount of money or readers aren't good ways to measure success or the quality of your work, as even negative guy here said a lot of popular webcomics are really pure shit, and most of the regulars here are doing just as good stuff as them, just with less pandering.

>>78490759
I don't think he claimed that... he's an idiot, but do try to point out the actual idiotic things he spout or you make us look like we're the stupid ones.