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>mfw they give in and make Iron Fist Asian.

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>mfw they give in and make Iron Fist Asian.
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really, he may as well be

the jump from "mystical kung-fu weeb" to "mystical kung-fu actual asian" isn't a particularly massive one
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>>78239026

It is kind of racist to do that?

Kung fu guy is always a Asian guy?
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>>78239059
But it's more racist to make him white. Don't you know asians aren't anywhere in the main stream media?
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>>78239026
>he may as well be

confirmed for not knowing a single fucking thing about iron fist
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>>78239143
then make a master of kung-fu show with schang shi
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>>78239143
>main stream media

so what?
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>>78239167
anon, that's racist. Asians aren't automatically good at kung fu.
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>>78239230
THEN MAKE AN AMADEUS CHO TV SHOW WITH HERCULES JEEEZ
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>>78238958
As someone whose read everything Danny's ever been in, I just wouldn't watch it.
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>Racial Tensions at a High
>Black people getting shot
>People saying its ok to be Racist to white people

WE need the Luke/Danny Bromance now more then ever
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>>78239259
I would pay a kickstarter for that!
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>>78239273

I want Luke and Danny giving us insight into the tensions and relations between white and black americans, not fucking Rush Hour.
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>>78239292
but you know who wont:

MARVEL
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>>78239259
But anon, nobody knows who that is
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>>78239314
THEN FUCK OFF, THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT, BECAUSE OF YOU MARVEL SOLD THE X-MEN FILM RIGHTS WHICH HAVE TONTS OF ASIAN CHARACTERS, YOU DIDNT BUY ENOUGHT COMICS IN THE 90S, SO THIS IS YOUR FAULT
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>>78239314
General pop doesn't know anything until you show them. Prior knowledge doesn't mean shit anymore.
Or are you guys forgetting that pretty much all media just has to introduce brand new characters to an audience that doesn't know them?
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>>78239273
>>78239296
can't we have both?
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Couldn't they just make him a Whasian american? His dad was white, his mom was ching ching, he is all usa
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>>78240714

>>78240714

The character should stay white. It's an interesting concept. Fuck this pc bullshit. I'm Asian and won't watch the show if they yellow wash Danny Rand. Fuck sjws ruining everything.
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>>78239026
You lose several important aspects of his character if he's Asian, and it's also racist as hell to go "he does martial arts so he should be Asian".
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>>78239143
If you mean American media, that's because Asians make up an equally small portion of the population in that country.
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>>78240714
Because that'd be wrong for all the reasons making him full Asian would be:
>>78241375
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>make Iron Fist asian
>Shiang Chi literallly exists already

Just use fucking Shiang Chi if you want an asian guy that knows kung fu! I'd be fucking down to clown for a Master of Kung Fu Netflix series!
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http://comicsalliance.com/iron-fist-asian-american-or-white-savior/

I'll just leave this here
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I can get needing to include black people in American media because there probably isn't much playing on African tv, but why the fuck do you need Asians when most Asian countries already have have their own movies and dramas?
If they're Korean and to want see Koreans, then they can easily find shows where EVERYONE is Korean.
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>>78239143
how is not depicting a character-- who has a background that would only particularly make sense as a white person-- as an asian racist?
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>>78241483
Stop making sense. You'll offend someone.
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>>78241478
how many new heroes are white?
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>>78240714
How come if it's an Asian-mix, it always has to be white dad, asian mom?
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Anyone know how long it will be until we know?

>>78239026

>weeb

If you are raised in that culture I don't think it counts.
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>>78239259

But isn't it racist that his superpower is being good at math?
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>>78241483
>the white man needs to make black tv because they're to incompetent
lmao
but what if they're SEAsian? and most Asian tv doesn't really deal with what it's like to be Asian in America, so its kind of different
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>>78239296
>want Luke and Danny giving us insight into the tensions and relations between white and black americans, not fucking Rush Hour.


I would fucking love that, I'd make Powerman Jackie though.
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>>78241437
>make Iron Fist Asian
>make Shiang Chi white
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>>78239143
Not sure if bait but
>Fresh off the Boat
>Into the Badlands
>Like 70% of the video game industry
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>>78239314
Nobody knew who Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, or Guardians of the Galaxy were, either.
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>>78238958
White boys BTFO
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>>78241478
FUCK OFF SJWHILL REEEEEEEEE
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>>78241478

Okay, thanks, that actually made me think of some things. That writer has very clearly never read anything centering around Iron Fist, which you can tell because they clearly don't grasp his origins. His article never mentions that Danny's father himself was an adoptive citizen of K'un Lun, that his expedition with his family and business partner was him trying to return to his home, that the expedition ended with Danny being orphaned. It never mentions that Danny was nine when he was stranded in the mountains, too young to have any real conception of his cushy life in America, that he found the city on his own after, or that he was adopted and naturalized by a man respected in the community. Danny was a citizen of the City of the Immortals, not a "tourist." He was an immigrant. The culture of K'un Lun is the culture he knows and understands, not the culture of America, where he was born.
Naturally, not understanding or at least acknowledging that, he never discusses what it means to be raised the adoptive son of one culture and return to the one of which you were an organic part. Understanding only that Danny is privileged in America, affluent, handsome, blue-eyed, white-skinned blond, but not that his natural social superpower is something Danny is unaccustomed to. It's something he explores. Remembering that he was raised as the outsider in a society without wealthy extravagance, consider how he would feel returning to America where he is king. He wouldn't, as perhaps most men of his status do, take it for granted, he wouldn't believe that his life was typical, or that the lavishness and prejudice of the other men in his new social circle were ordinary. If you are looking for white privilege to be explored by any super hero, you can't look much farther than Danny Rand.
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>>78242766
>>78241478

Also

>and if there’s another Fantastic Four reboot, Lucy Liu should certainly play Reed Richards.

What? I mean I have a shrine to Lucy Liu in the shed in my back yard and seeing her get with The Invisible Woman would inspire more open than I could watch in one evening, but other than that I don't follow that logic. Or making Namor Asian. The Atlanteans are their own race and I don't think there were a whole lot of American Asians, particularly "McKenzies," captaining expedition ships.
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Whites aren't as attractive as they used to be. Let the auditions speak for themselves. Its not giving in if the actual better choice is an Asian.
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>>78239059
Its okay to be racist against Asians.
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>>78238958
>the fight scenes are shit nonetheless
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>>78242990
This is one character where his ethnicity actually does matter, though. It'd be like making Black Panther white.
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>>78242217
Pretty sure SEA has tv too.

>and most Asian tv doesn't really deal with what it's like to be Asian in America, so its kind of different
>Oh no, this one-trick plot will never be tread, whatever will I do! It's not like TV is escapism or anything!
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>all the previous Iron Fists before Danny were Asian
>Iron Fist must be white
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>>78243203

Not all of them, and that's because they all had different stories than Danny does.
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>>78243203
>Asians are the same as Asian-Americans
://///////////
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>>78239143
>Don't you know asians aren't anywhere in the main stream media?

There are more Asians in Western media than whites in Asian media.
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>>78243203
Danny needs to be white because going from privileged to persecuted to privileged is an important part of his story.
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>>78243589
well there are also more Asians in white countries than whites in Asian countries
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>>78242508
Think he just means movies
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>>78243081
Well i don't really mean "what its like to be Asian in America"
Just Asians in America are different from Asians in Asia so there is a difference
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Expecting more Asians in media isn't about actually wanting more Asians, its more about calling diversity fags on their shit
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Do PCfags actually want Iron Fist to be asian? Are they that dumb? Surely they don't think making a kung fu master asian would be promoting diversity or breaking stereotypes in any way. I have too much faith in humanity to believe they are that mindless.
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Clearly, the only non-racist approach would be to make him black
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>>78243040
I care so much more about this than anything else.
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>>78244157
This, it is 2015 after all
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>>78244138
PCfags have always been hypocrites
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Was white privilege his super power? Cause if not then his race shouldn't matter
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>>78239143
>Don't you know asians aren't anywhere in the main stream media?

>Around 2/3rds of the media I consume nowadays is about Japanese people
>Will still be called racist for not wanting an Asian Iron Fist
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>>78238958
For a moment I read this as "make Iron Fist Anais"

Request Anais Waterson as Iron Fist.
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>>78244138
>>78244233
Applefags pls go.
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>>78244746
>Was white privilege his super power?
It's a significant part of his character and how he interacts with others and the world.
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>>78244867
Even better if they make the "Anaihilator" commercial with Luke Cage/Gumball holding a very pissed off Anais Iron Fist.
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>>78239143
This is utter bullshit don't care if it's bait or not there are asians in the media it's the fact we just don't make fun of them as we do with blacks so we ignore it naturally or don't think that much about it.
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> Defining someone by the colour of their skin and not the content of their heart
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>mfw if they did I wouldn't feel threatened at all as a white person
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>>78239026
For the last time, he's not a Chinaboo, he's a REVERSE BANANA!
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>>78242766
THANKYOU!

It's like a game of telephone at this point of people spreading what they think his origin is, and how he's so fucking problematic~. His character is all about examining one's privilege. WTF Is going on?!

This only thing that's really concerning me is how big this has gotten, it's poisoning people to an otherwise great character. Marvel knows of this now, this could tie the producer's/EP's hands of the story they actually want to tell.

This is REALLY FUCKING ME OFF.
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>>78241680
Asian men can't impregnate a white woman with their inferior genes.
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>>78241483
That's in Asia though, not America.
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>>78241483
>there probably isn't much playing on African tv
Nollywood (NIgerian Hollywood) alone produces more movies than Hollywood.
It's just that their products aren't geared towards African-Americans (or Afro-Europeans for that matter).
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>White Privilege: The Character
>He should be Asian

No. How does that make a lick of sense?
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>>78246556
QFT
Gook dicks are weenie tots and no self-respecting white girl would want it except for weaboo hambeasts
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>>78244138
Welcome to the extreme-left.
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>>78244157
Why not a brown Latino? You don't see enough Latin American representation.
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>>78242171
Cho is the 7th smartest person on 616 Earth for fuck's sake. He has to be good with math like Doom, Richards, Pym, Banner, and Stark. Is it racist that white geniuses are good at math?
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>>78241680
Because Asian girls love white dick and prefer a man instead of a faggy doormat
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>We all know who they should cast as Danny Rand.
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>>78246556
>>78246661
U mad?
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>>78246703

Yeah, but Doom is a gypsy and everyone else you listed is white.
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>>78246763
Anon I was just shitposting, I wasn't being serious.
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>>78244746

I hate to incite buzzwords, but go back to Tumblr and fuck you.
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>>78246829
Dude, you don't recognize the guy in the photo?
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Nowadays errybuddy wanna talk like they got somethin' to say,
but nothin' comes out when they move they lips
just a bunch of gibberish
AND MOTHERFUCKERS ACT LIKE THEY FORGOT ABOUT SHANG CHI
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>>78246988
Yes, obviously, the point I was making is that I wasn't being serious about my statement. I was just shitposting.
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>>78242766
This motherfucker right here? You're good people. In fact, you're too damn smart for 4chan. Get out while you still can.
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>>78244086
Either you're a Chinese guy living in America and already have a bajillion movies and tv shows produced in China/Hong Kong/Taiwan, or you're basically a white guy anyway. It's like some gaijin in Japan expecting and being buttmad that isn't an emotionally accurate plot about "the gaijin experience".
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>>78246595
Life for your average African is going to far more removed for a Black American with a slavery heritage than a Japanese/Korean guy for a second generation JP/KO American.
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>>78242766
Someone send this to every Danny dissenter.
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>>78241478
>An article, one of many, written by someone who has no clue of Danny Rand as a character. People who also aren't that sure about him will read this and it will colour their perception of him.

This is a really negative first impression to give, and it just continues. Sigh.

>Being a Danny Rand fan is suffering
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How about this? This was one of those Japanese series.

This is set in early 20th century, we have the Japanese hero who wants to make good Whisky and goes to Scotland to learn more about it and there he meets the heroine, they fall in love, and against the will of both families they get married anyway and he takes her with him back to Japan in the same year.

Obviously as a Japanese drama the adversities just started and they will have to deal with prejudice, post war crisis and failures but the hero stays determined to make good Whisky and to show that the heroine is not just a pretty face she also supports him sometimes even financially by teaching English in Japan in fucking 1920s and to reinforce that they are a romantic couple that makes an unity incidentally some of her students happens to be influential people and by the help of her contacts, after many adversities, and helping establish a good whisky distillery he manages to found his own distillery. He never saw his whisky be acclaimed as the best of the world but 19 years after his death, his 20 years old whisky was awarded as the best single malt in the world, almost sounds like some whisky anime.
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>>78247829

What are you talking about?
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>>78247275
>It's like some gaijin in Japan expecting and being buttmad that isn't an emotionally accurate plot about "the gaijin experience".
I want there to be now, though. Not some otaku-pandering crap ala MegaTokyo, but a real hard, unflinching, objective look at the harsh realities faced by foreigners in Japan. They don't even have to be white foreigners. Japan is supercalafragilisticexpyxenophobic.
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>>78247890
About the "why it always have to be white man x asian woman" etc.

>>78247921
I'm in Japan right now and no, they aren't. Yes, there are racist people anywhere in the world but the people I see people bitching often do it about the most unrelated things and labeling on prejudice or see with bad eyes things the Japanese do trying to be helpful. Like I saw a guy ranting on another board about how they always give him the english menu or how they try to speak i engrish with him instead of speaking in japanese.
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>>78242949

Porn, not open, and I meant to specifically say I don't think any Asians were captaining American corporate expedition ships in the 1910s.

>>78247113

But where would I talk about comics
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>>78247829
That sounds interesting. What is this show called?
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>>78242949
Asian Namor could totally work, though. Dude, already look practically Eurasian.
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>>78248246
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massan
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>>78248057
It's less overt racism for the most part and more just being really ethnocentric and having an overcompensating special snowflake complex.
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>>78248246
This >>78248271
It is loosely based on this guy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masataka_Taketsuru

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessie_Roberta_%22Rita%22_Cowan

And some of their whisky actually managed to surpass Scottish whisky, both from the company he helped to set initially and the one he founded himself latter breaking the prejudices from the Japanese market that Japanese whisky is not real whisky.

But seriously, their life, specially Rita's sounds like it was taken from an anime script.
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>>78248385
What exactly you mean by "overcompensating special snowflake complex"?
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>>78248385
Japan isn't racist but would rather keep their country Japanese than making it a multicultural shithole
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>>78248498
"Japan sure is super special and unique with it's four seasons"
"Only Japanese people can experience amae (wanting to be taken care of/spoiled)"
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>>78247275
Im just saying, if they're going race change a character, or have a minority lead. why not an asian. Saying asians have their own mefia is a lame excuse since white man has no burden to make shit for blacks
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>>78246763
>asian has inferior genes
>post ded people

anon...
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>>78248600
Since when does having four seasons make any one special
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>>78248659
>>78247446
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>>78248659
>why not an asian.
Because a large part of Iron Fist's character comes from the fact that he's a white guy who lived among Asians.
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>>78248704
Not all Asians are East Asian
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>>78248696
That's the fucking point. Although to be fair, some places DON'T have four seasons the closer you get to the equator. Maybe that's why they got the notion that they were speshul way back when.
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>>78248600
>>78248498

There's a whole literary genre called "nihonjin-ron" that's all about how Japan is special and different and unique, listing a million reasons why Japan is not like all the other Asian countries. Hell, when they resumed regular contact with the Western world after closing themselves off for centuries, they basically went full westaboo and tried to take in as much European influence as possible while distancing themselves from the rest of Asia. They also tend to be more racist toward other Asians (particularly immigrant Chinese and Koreans) than Westerners.
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>>78248717
Im not saying iron fist, more like characters who have already been race changed to black for "diversity"
Personally I'd rather there be no race changes, im just calling libs on their shit
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>>78248773
Well, if we go by representation, blacks and Asians are at least as well-represented in American media as in the American population.

There's a huge disparity between Latino population and representation in media, though, as well as the male/female ratio.
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>>78248730
Then make it about a SEA then. Since they virtually never exist in Western media except in Rick&Steve.
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>>78248731
i've literally never heard of japan thinking they were special for having seasons
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>>78248757
japan thinking them special adds onto their nationalistic heritage, all civilizations have this or had this "thinking they're the choose people" mentality
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>>78248600
What this have to do with being "supercalafragilisticexpyxenophobic"?

It doesn't seems different from portuguese speakers saying that only them have a word of "saudade".
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>>78248757
The Japanese and the Koreans and the Chinese all hate one another. It's a free-for-all of hate there.
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>>78249009
Me neither, and I'm in fucking Japan for months. They do seems to enjoy seasons way more than countries like New Zealand by making festivals (that they do since ancient times since they were an animist agricultural society) and with seasonal products. Halloween Kitkat was pretty good by the way.
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Japanese = British. Once king of their domain, the best of their cousins. now America's bitch, and a dying empire
Koreans = French. Bitter rivals with the Japanese/British, but never as good
Chinese = Germans. late to industrialize, wants to prove they're the best, a fucking lot of them
Mongolians = Italians. ruled the world waaay back, now irrelevant tier. nothing but savages
Tibetans = Jews. "muh genocide"
SEAsians = Slavs. fucked by communism and dictatorships, a bunch of different kinds, but no one cares about knowing the difference of them, or their culture and would rather study the ones above
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>>78249137
Lol, but I have seen both Koreans and Chinese put as Jews.
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>>78249176
to many of Chinese and Koreans to be put at Jews
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>>78243040
Taking Daredevil as example, they're gonne be pretty good
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>>78249082
Summer
>Him: this is hot, and the bugs are so annoying!
Japan: let's make a festival, go to the sea, eat watermelons, catch crayfish and bug!

Autumn
>him: fucking leaves! Where is my leaf blower?
Japan: Let's make a festival, enjoy the colors of the leaves, sweet potatoes, chestnuts, mushrooms...

Winter
>Him: Brrrr cold!
Japan: Let's make a festival, have nabe, ski, build a village out of ice, fish on a frozen lake...

Spring
>Him: fucking allergies! Fuck you nature and all your pollen!
Japan: let's make a festival, watch the cherry blossom, play >Him: FOR FUCKS SAKE JAPAN! STOP ENJOYING THINGS!!! YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO HAVE SEASONS!!!!
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>>78249520
every place that has them celebrates the seasons in some way
Summer - summer vacation
Fall - harvest festivals
Winter - the holiday season
Spring - its spring cleaning?
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>>78243069
You can make Black Panther white. His characterization doesn't actually have anything to do with him being black, believe it or not.

You just cannot make him not-African. He's as xenophobic and racist towards outsiders of Wakanada as any white would be.
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>>78249645
Japan have festivals for every season. It is derived from old festivals for divinities that they don't care anymore but the party is good.

That besides seasonal food and products.

Also do people look for for spring cleaning? I mean, besides the cleaning enthusiasts and OCDs.
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>>78249742
i know people do stuff for the Spring Season in some places, they at least enjoy it to pick flowers or something. Spring cleaning was the first thing that came to mind though
but still celebrating the seasons is not something unheard of
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>>78249082
We actually finally got orange KitKats in Amurica this Halloween, I've still got a bagful of them in the freezer.
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>>78249773
My point from the time I have been here in Japan is that it is much more pronounced here than in other countries. You know how when it gets close to Christmas you see lots of christmas stuff you won't see any other time of the year? Japan is like this all year with seasons. From supermarkets are full of products that you won't see in any other season, even industrialized products that have no reason to not be made in another season. For fucks sake there is a hatsune miku winter bread! They could make and sell this any time of the year but they do it just in winter. And in autumn it was pumpkin and other autumn stuff. I can still buy pumpkins in the supermarket but they don't have pumpkin Kitkat anymore.
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>>78249913
Yeah, I want to save some for my relatives and friends for when I leave Japan but they will expire by them.
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>>78249520
See this? This shit right there? This is exactly the sort of weeabullshit he was talking about. Do you really think that Japan is the ONLY fucking culture on Earth to have festivals marking the change of seasons?
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>>78249947
Okay, judging by the fact you said you wanna bring Halloween KitKats home despite them being available in the US, I'm assuming you're not Amurican. So I'll forgive you for not knowing this, but
>>78249920
This shit you talk about here? Yeah, America has a fuckton of varieties of food and special products that're only available seasonally, too. Go and google fucking "pumpkin spice".
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>>78239026
How about you think before you post
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>MFW Every time people say Danny's race is irrelevant.

This is how I know not to take your opinion seriously.
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>>78250035
They have hatsune miku merchandise for every season. Also I was not being specific to halloween ones, I'm talking about all the seasonal stuff. They literally have hundreds of kitkat flavors. Also merchandise and shit. Also as I have said, the other places that have seasons that I have been didn't seem to exalt them in the same extend as in Japan.

>>78249970
No, I'm saying that they are more intense about it, not that only they have. I know about festivals like the ones you posted but they are pretty punctual. Here in Japan it is more like how Christmas is one day but it permeates through the entire month. There might be a festival at certain date but there are events and season themed stuff all over the entire season.
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>>78241478
>Danny is a "White Saviour" meem.

LET THIS END.
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>>78242391
>make Iron Fist Asian
>make the rest of K'un-Lun's inhabitants white
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>>78250622
So, Danny should be a white boy reconnecting to his culture?
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>>78238958
As long as he has an inferiority complex about being Asian American/not authentically Asian, then fine.
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>>78249412

Sure, but taking Jessica Jones as an example they'll be okay at best and silly at worst. Different shows, different directors and fight choreographers.
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I've been on the "Make Danny Latino" train but that comicsalliance article is making me like Asian Danny more and more.
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If Dannys race doesnt matter then why not change it to be more modern? Like i dont know, maybe black?
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>>78250161

Absolutely hate how it's considered okay to speak with authority on comics if you've never picked up one in your life. You can even be a fucking comics reporter without knowledge, like >>78241478
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>>78251524
Jessica Jones isn't really a very good example to use for bad fights. She's an untrained drunk who happens to have super strength. Her fights aren't gonna look great.
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>>78239026
As a Chinese kid, I'd like Asians to break out of the martial arts stereotype. Realistically it will take Hollywood another 20 years to make this happen, but Harold and Kumar was a big step forward (stoner film...still progress).

Plus once again, I'd like to see some creativity and create some new ethnic characters instead of color washing old white ones.
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>>78251723

You can still make untrained fights look good. I'm talking about like... When she threw Simpson and then it cut to the bookshelf and after a delay he appeared and hit it. It was awkwardly done.
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Danny is suppose to be weeaboo wishful thinking fantasy
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>>78251525
But, they get his character completely wrong, it's based on a fabrication of what they think he is.

see >>78242766
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>>78251902
HE. IS. NOT. A .WEEABOO.
HE. IS. A. REVERSE-BANANA.
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>>78247921
Practically every Asian nation is full of xenophobes. I got plenty of shit in HK, Thailand, and Bali.
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>>78251980
that's practically every homogeneous country, even european ones before they destroyed their countries
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>>78238958
I don't see what the problem is. We love diversity, it adds an asian who is actually important to the MCU, and it also gets rid of an extremely outdated trope.
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>>78239272
Ditto
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>>78251601
>>78241478
They and other people have essentially "straw-manned" his character, so their narrative is easy to agree with.

White man goes to an Asian country and helps those poor inferior Asians? And is better at Kung-Fu than them? Much less inflammatory if he's from there and re-connects to a culture he left behind!

The problem is the "white saviour" caricature they've created isn't Danny Rand. What they are going is extremely irresponsible, and this is influencing people opinions of him in a very bad way.
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>>78250301
Kinda jealous of all the different Kit-Kat flavours they get.
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>>78251601
Now comics are hobbies, entertainment. What do you get when they are making articles about serious stuff. Welcome to science journalism!
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>>78246763
Steroids.
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>>78252332
I thought Danny being a blond white guy was subverting the trope from the get go. Also, asian martial arts master? Should make him a robot too. Give him some awesome math powers while were at it. Bad driving, etc.
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>>78238958
What's the choice here? Make him asian, or wait until kung-fu movies come back into fashion.

What do you think the smart choice is?
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>>78247446
Well yeah. I'm just saying : there is African TV.
Besides if they watch American films and relate to them, why would the other way around be an issue?
I mean I watch movies from all around the world, and what do you know, my country has no movie industry to speak of and is only represented in foreign media as crooked bankers.
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>>78254120
Neither?
Making him Asian won't make the showrunner, directors, producers and stunt coordinators Asian (which is what matters if you want a proper Kung Fu movie).
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>>78241478
Are there any counter-articles to this and others.

There's the "I don't want an Asian-American Iron Fist" on Comicbookresources, but that didn't go into deal about why Danny needs to be white, so the series can have the proper ruminations on 'White Privilege'.
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>>78246763
Man Bruce Lee sure was handsome.
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>>78254416
Meant to add a question mark to that question.
*?
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>>78254408
Oh forgot editors, directors of photography and camera operators.
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>>78247829
That seems like a cute story. I like how "I'm going to be the best whiskey brewer against all odds" is basically a shonen synopsis.
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>>78254416

Don't think so, maybe one will pop up on like tumblr and go viral if it's well written and is about Danny and exploring privileged and shit

what would solve a lot of it is if marvel hired some non-white dudes as leads SOMEWHERE
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>>78248257
It actually would, especially since, based on the comics I've read, Namor doesn't seem to identify as half human, but rather "Atlantian".
Changing his father to be Asian but keeping the rest of the character intact wouldn't change much about his personality.
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>>78254783

Didn't Namor fight for the Allies in WWII largely because of his American father?
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>>78246425
That's called an Egg.
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>>78254587
Truth, sort out rights to Namor, cast someone like Daniel Henney, and get a Shang-Chi property going. Bobs your uncle.
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>>78255082
I thought it was because the Nazis were fucking with Atlantis?
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>>78255082
Or his Atlantian mother could look like a human Asian woman, just with blue skin. I'd imagine Atlantians would have all sorts of different facial features, plus the usual trappings of pointed ears and winged feet, just blue. Like the species in those Daft Punk videos.
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>>78254587
It would need to be something bigger than just a Tumblr post, like on a Comicbookalliance, Vox, Bustle, Comicbookresources type of website, so when you type in Iron Fist into google you get those popping up, instead of the really ill informed ones that are urging he be Asian-American.
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>>78239273
I love how people who are calling for Danny to be AA completely miss out his very important friendship with Luke Cage.
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>>78255309
Winged feet come from Namor being a mutant, other Atlanteans don't have that.
>let's stick non-whites to sidekicks and non-human characters, since they look weird anyway
wew, lad
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>>78255102
Never heard of that one.
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>>78255481
Sorry, I forgot.

>let's stick non-whites to sidekicks and non-human characters, since they look weird anyway

Is that what you really got from my post?
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>Iron Fist

Literally who?
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>>78255534
I was merely pretending to be retarded to emulate actually retarded people.
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>>78255558
Dude, it's really hard to tell nowadays.
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>>78255481
Well if they aren't human, their race would be irrelevant to the character's personality.

Personally, I'm curious what route they're gonna go with Mar-Vell. Blue or Pink Kree? There was a bit of a racism aspect to him in 616 because he was pink, but every version of him that doesn't borrow from 616 makes him Blue.
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>>78255534
Oh and the species' design form that Daft Punk video, and the video's artstyle itself, are a callback to a Franco-Japanese cartoon named Ulysses 31.
https://youtu.be/vxlNw-vz7l8
There, so that I'm not just shitposting.
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>>78255606
Yeah, making the space people who just happen to look like human white people being the discriminated ones may not go over too well nowadays.
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>>78255082
Yeah but I truly doubt it would come up in the MCU besides maybe a brief exchange with Captain America.
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>>78255613
Ah, yes, that's the name.

>Discovery is GOAT.
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>>78255653
Bit we've already dealt with the Kree before, who look like Blue people.
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>>78255713
That's like saying GotG already dealt with humans, who look like white people.
Nothing prevents them from introducing a different shade of oppressed Krees.
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>>78255672
What's up with Namor's rights anyway? Are they still over at Universal or what?
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>>78255186

Daniel Henney looks way too kind to be Namor.
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>>78255797
IIRC Marvel can made a Namor movie, they just can't distribute a Namor movie.
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>>78255806

He just needs some meat on his bones.

What about Ian Anthony Dale?
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>>78255806
With how the MCU treats bad guys (which I believe is how you should introduce Namor), I wouldn't trust them to make Namor justice.
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>>78255653

Isn't that kind of the point of making the pink Kree white people? To be like "racism is some arbitrary bullshit?"
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>>78255822
>>78255797
There is a small issue with rights, Fiege has specified exactly what the caveat is but they should be able to make a Namor movie with relative ease. We don't know what the problem is exactly but it's speculated to be a distribution issue.
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>>78255876
Probably, would make sense. But since people nowadays don't seem to get that from Iron Fist, I don't think they'd be smart enough to understand.
They'd be like
>white people trying to culturally appropriate racism now
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>>78255932
>culturally appropriate racism

The fact that there are actually people out there who believe this, and perpetuate this notion, make me want to cut something.
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>>78238958
Why does it matter?
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>>78255975

Why don't you read the thread and find out?
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>>78249412
No. Just no.
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>>78254408
Kung fu movies were shit anyway, so nothing of value is lost.
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>>78251723
I thought Daredevil looked like an untrained drunk too. Just, goddamnit, why can't Americans make fight scenes where the fighters actually look competent, ever?
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>>78256021
You're shit, buddy.
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>>78255932
>>white people trying to culturally appropriate racism now

Reminds me of that article where someone tried to claim Hulk was the first black superhero
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>>78256065
Oh gosh. I remember that! What was all that about? Because, he has rage-fits, he's black? baka.
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>>78254468
>directors of photography and camera operators.

Is this an epic joke about squinting?

>>78255822
>>78255797
>>78255877

The Namor rights went to Universal when Universal was making Waterworld (which is essentially a Namor movie set in a universe where Atlantis is dead along with every land civilization). This is purely to prevent Marvel from suing over the rights to Namor's character being infringed (mutant, breathes underwater, boring asshole) by the Mariner or whatever the fuck they called him. You might not think it was necessary, and it might not actually have been, but it probably went a long way to stopping the 90s market crash completely bankrupting Marvel Comics.

They're not coming back in your lifetimes.

>distribution

Universal (presumably) do hold the distribution rights to any Namor movie they might choose to make; they also still hold the Hulk distribution rights, but afaik that's because after they surrendered the Hulk rights back to Marvel, Marvel Studios still needed a distributor before they were part of Disney. I don't think it's related to the Namor deal or structured the same way.
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>>78256121
>They're not coming back in your lifetimes.
Why assume this at all? Also why do you assume the other person was making a racist joke? Why are you buttmad?
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>>78255994
see
>>78256005
>>
What if we just changed everything?
>Danny is Asian
>has to go learn from the Coon-lun
>goes from his family's large mansion to a small run down urban neighborhood
>learns to fight from a bunch of black guys fighting corrupt cops
>meets Luke Cage
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>>78256121
>Is this an epic joke about squinting?
No, a statement about not moving the camera around all the damn time.
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>>78256121
It was probably also the fact that they precisely called him the Mariner, which was close to Namor's nickname.

>They're not coming back in your lifetimes.
Wut? What does that have to do with it? If Marvel gets the rights back they can't sue over a movie made when they didn't have the rights.
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Why don't they just get some half-asian dude to do it?

That way they don't have to deal with the ASIAN FIGHT GUD stereotype and don't have to listen to the WHITE PEOPLE UGHHHHHH crowd.
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>>78256653
Or they have to deal with both.
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>>78256653
That is the worst of both. It's wrong for all the same reasons making him Asian would be, and the dummies calling for an Asian actor would still get offended.
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>>78256653
Because

>>78242766

Danny needs the white privilege, not just to contrast his life in KL, to his position in NY, but to contrast with Luke, too. If he was mixed-Asian, he would need to be an extremely white-passing MA, like Alexa Chung.
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>>78256653
>WHITE PEOPLE UGGHHHHH Crowd.

They are so freaking obnoxious.
>>
I'm probably going to get shit on for this, but i kind of like the idea of an Asian American Danny, he's forced to rediscover his own culture and heritage.

He's someone who cant find acceptance within the Asian or American community and has to prove himself to both.

as a whitewashed Mexican the story is really easy to relate to and pretty apealing, I'd like to see it done with a new character rather then change ironfist though.
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>>78257018
It's not their fault. They're white.
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>>78257113
>he's forced to rediscover his own culture and heritage.
This has always been such a racist concept. Genes do not determine your cultural identity.
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>>78257134
Hey, I'm 4/17 Irish and 5/33 Cherokee, respect muh heritage.
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>>78257116
Dat white guilt.
>>
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>>78256426
You're not thinking straight. Why would Universal sell another studio the rights to Waterworld? They still make money from it.

>>78256188
Because if they weren't sold outright (as in, no time limit), then they have a very, very long period on them. Waterworld was 20 years ago already; if those rights haven't reverted by now, they probably never will in our lifetimes. "In perpetuity" and "100 years" have the same effect, but might have very different price tags.

>Why are you buttmad?

Why are you on 4chan?
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>>78257174
fukken inbred hick
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>>78257184
It's a joke. Don't take things so seriously, Jose.

>>78257221
They wouldn't sell the rights to Waterworld, they'd sell the rights to the Namor IP. Stop talking about this anon, you don't understand it.
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>>78257113
>he's forced to rediscover his own culture and heritage.
Anon, unless you want him to be half k'un lun, you're being racist.
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>>78249645
Spring: Easter
Summer: Vacation
Fall: Halloween
Winter: Christmas (or something else)
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>>78249018
Murca: Muh freedom
France: Muh art/food
China: Muh 4000 years
Jews: Muh religion that says we're the chosen people

>>78249029
The difference is that they don't tie their superiority to their nation or culture, but to their ethnic "100% pure nihonjin" blood, like some kind Jim Crow bullshit.
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>>78257875
>Muh art/food
If you think that's all French people think they're exceptional at, pfft. We're really fantastic at being full of ourselves.
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>>78254347
I'm Canadian so I'm in the same boat (ib4 but you're american already durr), it bugged me as kid but now I don't give a shit and it's a bonus if a Canadian appears anywhere regardless how they're portrayed.

But the whole representation thing in general just seems ridiculous, it's pathetic that anyone above a certain age puts so much weight on media to fulfill their emotional needs... Oh, wait, we're on 4chan.
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Keep Iron Fist white but make Shang Chi a part of the show too
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>>78258184
Well, at least you got Vancouver as a fake American city.
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>>78254551
Yeah it is so stereotypically shonen that sounds hard to believe.
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>>78259137
The trope of succeding against all odds is probably older than shonen. Seems like a pretty Japanese thing.
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>>78259178
I mean, many of the facts of his life sounds hard to believe. Come on, an interracial marriage in fucking 1919? Over 50 years latter Bruce Lee still had troubles with this. Produce whisky in Japan? Most don't even know what it is and they drink sake anyway. Also it was the fucking crisis post first world war and soon the second world war was about to start. All of this sounds like would have never worked. But it did.
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>>78259313
Whiskey's actually pretty popular in japan.
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>>78259313
Also his wife, was dedicated, intelligent, and capable. That sounds almost like a mary sue character. Oh no! Our tragic heroine leaves all her life behind to live with her love in an strange land that she doesn't even know the language as a unique of her kind she becomes fluent in the local language and not only get a job but also get contacts with influent people and is a vital keystone for the distillery becoming known and respected in this strange land. Nothing of this would be possible without her.

>>78259371
Until his whisky was awarded the best of the world many bars didn't even had Japanese whisky available as it was regarded as not real whisky. We are not talking about 19XX we are talking about fucking 200X.
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Playing devil's advocate, how is it racist to have an Asian Martial artist? It's not like it is inherently bad if an Asian does martial arts, a black dude playing basketball, or a Hispanic playing soccer unless they have no personality beyond that.
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>>78259477
Its the implication that the character whose power is Martial arts HAS to be Asian
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>>78238958
Im actually surprised no ones calling it racist.
>"OH, so the kung fu kig gotta be asian. Why cant be be Indian? Its where Kung FU originated from."
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>>78259489
Fair enough I guess. But don't Asians do that to themselves too? In anime for no real reason, all Chinese people are archaically dressed kung-fu masters
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>>78248598

>japan isnt racist

lol
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>>78238958

It really should be a black guy. Some rapper. Actually, make it a black woman, that's way more progressive.
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>>78259548

it's not racist because it's not white people asking for him to be asian

i mean some probably are but anyone that wants to make danny asian and think its not at least slightly racist is deluding themselves
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>>78259600
>it's not white people asking for him to be asian
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>>78259568
Just like in American cartoons French people act like they're from the early 20th century and English people look like they're from the 19th.
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>>78259477
One thing About politically correct people is that everything is racist for them. Years ago there was an campaign against AIDS and it featured a black women as a person with AIDS talking about it. PC people of course whined about that but now wait a moment, what is more racist? Make it featuring the candidate that had the best performance of all in the tests or reject her and not give her the job just based on her race? PCs want to force race as a reason for decisions when they should be doing the opposite.
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>>78259578
Every country have racist people.
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