Gunnerkrigg Court

We get it, flesh is spooky!

>>78172459
Not necessarily spooky.

Its what conclusions Robot draws from all of this new data that people are worried about.

>>78172443
>Robot learns about pain and what it can do to the brain.
Uh-oh.

>>78172479
Eh...it could go either way.

There's two schools of thought on the matter. Worst case scenario, the machine granted too much acts like a machine with an unforseen variable and goes to the most extreme reaction.
The second, the machine is no longer a machine and has an epiphany that leads it to become human, either with or without a soul depending on what kind of fiction it is. Some go even further by saying that despite lacking a soul they are human in every single way, including sense of morality and simply lack an eternal presence.

It's unclear where Robot is going with this. I lean towards the latter, but fiction has conditioned us to think any AI other than R2-D2 that gains self-awareness and freedom goes insane or is forced into becoming Hitler by Marvel Comics-style civilian humans.

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>>78172479
I think the conclusion is obvious.

>>78172443
Jesus Christ Tom! Robot has a hard time getting use to biology. We get it already! Move on!!!!!

>>78172443
>it's

>>78172443
OK, that's a pretty beautiful conceptualization of pain, really bodily sensation in general.

>>78172443
this storyline is so slow and boring that I'm shocked Jones isnt in it.

Ya'll are some ADHD type nigga chilluns here.

We get it, the fact that the comic isn't over in five minutes or less makes your brains hurt, but at least Tom can finish a section of the plot over the course of several months and not actual goddamn years.

>>78172570
There's been at least three typos in the last month. Is Tom ok?

>>78172443
Why would you give a robot the ability to feel pain? That seems like the worst idea ever?

I think i hate you guys

>>78172699
He has fleshy parts not that can be damaged so it's be useful to know when he's fucked himself up. It sucks that he has to process it the same as people though. Maybe Kay will fix that in the next update.

>>78172443
was this page really necessary? did we really need to see the same thing we just saw like two pages ago and to tell us what we already know? is Tom drunk?

So what did he mean by this?

>>78172757

He's saying it feels extremely painful.

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>>78172535
>a machine with an unforseen variable
Like that blue part on his CPU?

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>>78172774

Pain?

There's something sinister about giving a robot the ability to feel pain. I can only assume this will be taken to the logical conclusion of robot procreation, which I also think is a bad idea.

>>78172525

Oh my...

>>78172443
Oh look, another page of Tom making Flesh all creepy and spooky. I expected Tom to lazily make this another two-page spread then cut it in half for extra pages.

>>78172787
If I removed his arm, will he die?

>>78172443
I really love the writing on this page. It's just the right kind of sci-fi, it kinda reminds me of Asimov. I love the writing in this comic overall, it's easily my favorite.

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>>78172443

IT IS A GOOD PAIN

>>78172801
Hopefully Pain will eventually lead to pleasure.

>>78172846

I dunno, he seems like kind of a small guy.

>>78172801

Well the most obvious path forward would be having Robot become a masochist because he becomes obsessed with this new sensation, which is bound to lead to self destructive behavior. But who knows what'll happen.

>>78172874
FOR YOU!!!

>>78172443
You know who I would like to see Tom work with? Andrew Hussie

>>78172443
>decided
Robot it was already called pain

>>78172972
Shh, just let him have this.

>>78172863
>robots are banned from court grounds due to chronic masturbating

>>78172443
I'm just so confused, /co/. Did Robot break his finger? Does Robot have a tough time adjusting to his organic arm? I don't think there's enough pages to describe that clearly.

>>78172645
go to bed, tom

>>78172443
>it's

>>78172756
The chapter is called 'New Data', which is what Robot is describing from his new fleshy arm.

Plus smacking his broken finger against a wall to feel more pain is kinda creepy.

Who do you think would win in a fight between Kat vs Hank Pym? Who could build the better robot? Who would be cuter? Who would win a merciless lover-Beating contest?

I really need to get a friend to read this. I am so sick of you dumb faggots. Why do you even read this comic? All you want is everything to happen in one fucking page, you always want the next arc. God dammit you guys suck, even the reddit and tumblr conversations are better than you guys. Fucking 5 pages of content and you're like "WHEN DOES NAMEK END GUYS." This comic clearly isn't for you. Annie isn't gonna light fucking everything on fire, Reynard isn't gonna murder Tony, fuck off with your hype-train bullshit you're all so fucking stupid. I'm dying of salt poisoning right now.

oh boy this old story again, we all know how this goes
>robot experiments with pain on himself
>robot gets bored
>robot starts experiencing with pain on other people
>blah blah blah AIs are evil/insane

>>78172756
Fuck off. If every page is this pretty and interesting, I'd say it's fine for the whole chapter to be this.

>>78172443
Oh god, he gets off on pain.
That anon last thread predicting a robo bdsm cult was right!

>>78172756
holy fucking yes it was necessary you inbred drooling twit.

>last few pages
>oh wow robot is having a bunch of sensations far out man that's so cute/adorable he's got his first feelings aww he broke his finger poor little guy
>this page
>holy shit he's obsessed with pain he's going to go full fucking psycho
it's called BUILDUP you colossal diaper-shitting yokel

>>78172756
this page is Robot explaining to the other robots, to have us context on the kind of romantization that motivates whatever dumb thing they do next

>>78173123
To be fair, Tom has faked us out in regards to cliche before. Like with the spider brain kid that we thought was going to be super abusive to the black haired girl, when in reality, they just have a super weird relationship on account of his brain damage.

>it's

>>78172699
Don't talk to me like you understand the intricacies of the blah blah reference meme joke
You're welcome.

>>78173121
>Reynard isn't gonna murder Tony
Good. Because Tony doesn't deserve it.

Tony LITERALLY did nothing wrong. And you are a idiot if you think otherwise.

>>78173121
JOKES
They clearly aren't for you.

>>78173206
>i-i-i was just joking, it's not a ceaseless campaign of shitposting every thread every single day

>>78172443
>the world in it is context
This history begin how porn but too have other elements

>>78173204
I don't think that either, but there were threads where people were saying that shit. Like 'oh, Kat said Rey can defend himself so he's gonna murder Tony' and shit. People want this comic to go off the rails in ways it's just not going to and it's stupid.

>>78173220
>Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>78173226
I still want Annie Kat fallout...

>>78173121
>Annie isn't gonna light fucking everything on fire
that would be fun tho. justhave her go Full Carrie/JeanGrey on the school killing random people would be actually entertaining.

>>78173255
Yeah, but that sort of kills the ability for any plot to go on after that, since most major characters would be dead. It could make a good darkfic, but I wouldn't want it to happen in the actual comic.

>>78173238
>I personally believe that our education, like, such as South Africa
MEMES!

>>78172443
Oh boy, more grim and gritty Body Horror! Complete with even more blood! Because that's what this story needed: more blood and body horror! (I'm being sarcastic by the way. In case you cannot tell)
Remember when this webcomic actually use to be a Fun story about cute girls going on fun adventures?

>>78173356
It's still going to be about cute girls going on fun adventures, except now it's also going to have robotic cenobites torturing people to understand the true nature of pain.

>>78173356
Too much sarcasm, m8.
Turn it down a notch, please.

>>78173405
>except now it's also going to have robotic cenobites torturing people to understand the true nature of pain.
That doesn't sound fun at all. That sounds like the complete opposite of fun: edgy.

>>78172699
Could lead to empathy. Or give a manipulative nature, as the machine begins to understand the concept of negative reinforcement.

Considering all we've seen is Robot attempting to give deep meaning to every single thing relating to organics, it could mean anything from giving him an understanding of sin to coming to fathom how organics have a deeper connection to nature through their enhanced connection to the world around them.

In the latter sense, Robot could come to see humans as traditional media Elves, or even possibly as Fey beings.

>>78172479
Hope he doesn't form the robots into a pain cult, then. The last thing anyone needs is for them to go all Hellraiser on everyone.
>The ultimate pleasure is ultimate pain!

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>>78172848
That just keeps reminding me of this.

>>78173020
Robot is contemplating the sensation of pain, and what it means to meatbags.

Like tears in rain. Actually a good comparison I think, as Blade Runner didn't do very well because it was billed as an action movie and was far more emotional and introspective than what the rather bored audience went in wanting.

>>78173109
Kat has broken barriers nobody has in Marvel yet.
She's beginning to unwravel the mechanics behind the spiritual side of life itself.

Reed, Doom, Pym, or Strange never went that far. Doom went the closest, but his focus is in demonology rather than soulstuff.

>>78173505
But has Kat mercilessly beat Paz to a pulp and traumatized her yet?

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>>78172443
well good job you lesbian, you created a cenobite robot.

>>78173449
>Edgy =/= fun
Were you born after the 90s?

getting ready to drop this. Tom's really embracing the Childish anime levels of stupidity, tropes, and drawn out "mysteries."

>>78173523
Like I said, new barriers.

No skinning Paz alive as a suit to safely enter the robot dimension, no knocking Paz up and forgetting she exists for long periods of time, no taking Paz through mind-warping adventures through the mechanical plane.

>>78173166
Jack and Beth

>>78173578
It took a decade for us to have context for something dropped in the first chapter.
Get used to it. Live in the now.

Mysteries in this aren't drawn out as much as they are left a mystery for a long period of time. As in you don't find the answer to a question within one chapter of it being asked.

>>78173586
All of these sound good!
Shame that Tom is unable to take any risks ...

>>78173586
But has she horrifically backhanded Paz's face?

>>78173166
>Like with the spider brain kid that we thought was going to be super abusive to the black haired girl, when in reality, they just have a super weird relationship on account of his brain damage.

Dude, when you say it like THAT it sounds so bad....

>>78172443
jeez robot how melodramatic

>>78173578
It's been becoming less and less "childishly anime" as it's progressed. The story and content has become more complex and the characters more aware of themselves and others, it's been moving away from the laughable cliches and "tropes" that initially purely defined it, and the mysteries and mystical elements are themselves the lifeblood of any good story. If anything, the resolution of certain mysteries has proven to the detriment of the story, not its benefit. Your complaints are bizarre and backwards -- it's more likely that your perception of the story has changed than the actual quality of it.

>>78173356
Dude it was about that for like two chapters, and then one of the girls fell into a canyon and had her soul scarred by a raging ghost of unfathomable hatred.

>>78173550
and what have you done lately?

>>78173586
>Skinning Paz alive

This...This isn't actually based on something Pym did, is it?

>>78172801
we are biological machines

>>78173550
>a cenobite robot.

you mean...a Cenobot?!

>ominous music

I'm really going to enjoy this. Pain as a lens for introspection and perspective is one of my favourite subjects to explore and read about.

>>78172443

Jesus Fuck, did he just smash his already-broken finger?!

Holy shit that must hurt....

Yeah, I'm afraid Good Ol' Robot needs to have a good snuggle with Shadow, and then get paper-clipped again.

Never forget: It's already been scrapped as defective oonce.

>>78172443
he has just discovered pain, let him have his moment,
now imagine when he discovers pleasure

>>78173774
Shadow better prepare his boipussy.

Or dick, depending on whether Robot is a fanatical top or bottom.

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>>78172443
I'm I dropped this edgy webcomic in favor of better webcomics like Cumber's Quest, Paranatural, and of course, El Goonish Shive.

>>78172443
>whole page describing pain

here it is in a few seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HqBvv_cJd0

>>78172443

Jesus fucking Christ robot, man, this is really not good. I'm torn between this chapter reveal being Kat reading this log and realizing she fucked up, or Robot giving this as his sermon to his people. "Long live the new flesh!"

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>>78173706
Doctor Doom.
A particular run everyone likes to forget happened.

Doom, in his quest to save his mother's soul from Mephisto (during one of those comics when Mephisto is actually portrayed as the devil rather than some crazy alien with a devil fetish or some powerful cosmic force that the myth of the devil came from) he romanced a woman, then wore her skin over his armor to protect himself when he went into Mephisto's realm. Pic related.

To top it off? She's his childhood love, Valeria. At the time described as the only woman he could ever truly love.

Oh, and years later when Sue was going to die in childbirth with her and Reed's second child, Doom saved their lives and rubbed Reed's face in it after Sue agreed to name that child "Valeria".

Comics, everybody.

>>78173846
>I'm torn between this chapter reveal being Kat reading this log and realizing she fucked up
Tom's gonna drag out the cast learning that Robot is fucking nuts until the climax

>>78173854
Jesus fucking Christ, Doom.

>>78173550
>>78173717
No, you fools. A Cenobyte.

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>>78173846

It seemed like we were pretty close to going full cronenberg during the cruise ship chapter too, but Tom loves to build things up and then end things anticlimactically.

>>78172443
I bet Max Landis could of written this better.

>>78173846
Oh, that's right, he's logging all this.
Kat is gonna have a good time reading that log in bed.

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>>78173879
Doom is one of those characters where their entire history makes no sense if taken as the actions of a single man, allowing you to cherry pick their canon as the greatest of heroes or the darkest of jackasses.

One run, he just arbitrarily walks into the homes of peasants and exercises his right to every Latverian woman on the daughter of the household. Another, he's literally free of sin.
In one, he'll be ready to sacrifice reality itself merely for his own pride. In another, he'll sacrifice himself to a fate worse than death to save humanity.
He'll be the father to a peaceful nation and present fascism in a positive light in a way Judge Dredd (literally created around the concept of "what kind of world would fascism be a good thing in?") can't even come close to, then he'll be a complete maniac with no idea how to run a nation.

>>78173121
>Why do you even read this comic
>Implying shitposters can read

You're giving idiots too much credit, anon.

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>>78172699

>>78174104
>posting the SJW version

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>>78174138
>the original version is the edited version maymay

>>78173953
But didn't he use "his right to every Latverian woman" to take her horse-riding and ask about the common man's vision on the kingdom?

>>78174104
Why would you make a feminist robot?

>>78172645
This comic is years old as it is.

I mean jesus fuck, I'm enjoying it, but will it ever fucking end?

>>78174196
robots can debate faster than humans. Get a shitload learning robots, program some to be first wave feminists, some to be second wave, some to be third wave, some to be neutral. Have them argue at high speed and you'll getting getting fourth, fifth, even sixth wave feminist robots. Once a year publish a book describing one of these evolved political robots beliefs. Fastforward the entire sociopolitical landscape in the west and make bank in the process.

>>78174196
Ahhhhhhhh!

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>>78174390
>outsourcing philosophy

>>78174390
South Park can hardly keep up now, this would overload comedians!
You're crazy!

>>78174390
>first wave feminists vs third wave
Tumblr would get so rekt by Susan B that they'd have to cry about it on their blog for years afterward

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>>78172443
IT IS A GOOD PAIN
>>78172676
>is Tom ok
>>78174357
Why would you want it to end?

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>>78172874

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>>78174104
>posting the edit

>all this whining
>we've seen did before!

No we haven't. We've seen the immediate effects of Robot feeling his 'biology'. Now we're seeing him react to it in different ways. "Robot feels weird" and "Robot is willing to smush his broken finger along a wall because pain is interesting" are two different things.

>>78175694
It boils down to the same story arc of Kat being an idiot who doesn't realize that her robot is up to no good

After the boat you'd think she'd wise up

>>78175337
>>78174159

>>78175901
Someone hurt your fee-fee tumblrina ?

>>78173121
>thinking shitposting is serious
Don't you get it yet? 4chan isn't for serious discussion, it's just for shitposting.

>>78175337
kek

reminder siddell is a porn artist called forview

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>>78176541
>You will never see Kat enquiring about the suggestively shaped 'totem' under Annie's bed before Annie plainly states it's for masturbation.

>You will never see Paz and Kat swimming at the beach and having swimsuit malfunctions.

>You will never see Annie walk in on Smitty and Parley fucking and being asked to film it with their phone.

>>78176541
If only, if only.

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>>78172781

the blue part was for the etheric circuitry - remember his designation is S13 and the blue part has a bismuth symbol on it.

>>78172848
>dem hips

hnng

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>Demon's to some, Angels to Others

in a few years Robot is going to start talking about "Knowing your Flesh"

thread theme, seriously, nothing good can come from this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgk0Hu5g7oo&list=PL347B6D22A22BDDB1


there is a reason just the thought of artificially created life reaching these conclusions terrifies you in a deep primordial place.

>>78176541
no, tom's porn is not even close to mistakable for forview's. go dumb meme elsewhere.

>>78172567
It's like you want each chapter to be 3 pages long.

>>78176541
No. Tom Siddell is a pseudonym for Aaron Diaz.

How long was it before the first two side comics were put on the website? It feels like it's been ages since Traveller was released in print.

>>78180203
I remember it being said somewhere that he only releases them on the website when the new one is in print.

It doesn't sound like Tom's doing very well, considering the frequent typos.

>>78173356
>Remember when this webcomic actually use to be a Fun story about cute girls going on fun adventures?


You remember when those cute girls started showing up with DEVOURING WELLS OF DARKNESS instead of eyes?

When the main character survived a serious murder attempt in the very first adventure?

When the main character utterly and permanently enslaved her attacker, using such torture techniques as sensory deprivation to shatter his will?

Remember when the entire cast fell into a horrific alternate reality and only escaped at the price of their very sanity?

Remember when the Laughing God mind-raped his chief and most faithful minion into something he thought would please the main character a little more?

Remember when he then provoked said minion into a murderous surprise attack on a little girl, just to make her like him a little more?

How about the suicide fairies? The little boy who was changed into an animal when he agreed to it while not paying attention? The defective and increasingly dangerous robot friend? Children given weapons waaaay too dangerous for their own good?

Oh, the list goes on, believe me. Gunnerkrig is a well of darkness, and always has been.

Methinks your memory of this comic is just a wee bit on the rosy side.

>>78176707
>>You will never see Annie walk in on Smitty and Parley fucking and being asked to film it with their phone.

Goddamn, given Snit's powers, that would be the greatest fucking ever recorded. It would go viral and sweep the world, bringing a new era of peace and tranquility as 'The Smith Method' caused mankind to transcend their origins.

Be careful with that amateur porn, folks.

Hey guys, anybody got "jet fuel can't melt steel beams Annie" Coyote on hand? Can't find it in recent threads and then archives go dead.

>>78180618
>smit just happens to hit the g-spot every time
>always simultaneous orgasm
>probably doesn't even need contraceptive
what a god

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>>78182069
>probably doesn't even need contraceptive

I'd wonder though. His powers make him lucky but they also like to put things in 'order', whether he wants it or not. They might find that no matter what they use, a sperm always finds it's way through to the egg.

>>78179417

Reminder Siddel is a meme poster called anonymous

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>>78181287

>>smit just happens to hit the g-spot every time
>>always simultaneous orgasm
>>probably doesn't even need contraceptive
>what a god

One of the best porn comics I've ever seen was about George and Smitty gettin' it on.

It was flat out perfect, so well done that I consider it canon.

And the contraceptive method they used (which of course worked perfectly) was he pulled out and laid down a statement on her stomach.

It was adorbs.

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>>78174104

>>78172699
Same reason you feel pain. While it sucks, it is a necessity.

>>78184670

You got links?

>>78188489
http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/Rooster/213726/A-Little-Privacy-GC-Doujinshi

>>78188612
>>>78188489
>http://www.hentai-foundry.com/pictures/user/Rooster/213726/A-Little-Privacy-GC-Doujinshi

HAHAA!!

She's all gettin' ready to give him a hard time about his package, and turn's out he's so well hung she forgets to finish undressing. :D

And that ending! HAHA!

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>>78180511
Agree, I'd say 5 of first 14 chapters are fun or fun -and-sad, and only 3 of Volume 5 are fun or fun-and-sad. Rest are neutral at best.

>>78186359
underrated edit

>>78182851
Thanks!

>>78188612

Thanks! You're a gentle-anon and a scholar.

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>>78178463
>there is a reason just the thought of artificially created life reaching these conclusions terrifies you in a deep primordial place.

I have had a thought.

Annie is doomed to die. Her soul is that of a fire elemental, one that lives eternally by getting its host pregnant and then jumping to the child, leaving their body as a soulless shell to wither and die, slowly.

Kat, the Goddess of the Machine, is unlikely to take this gracefully.

Note the quote here: "As if!"

But why not?

Surma's MIND and personality were just fine after her soul was leeched away by Annie.

Why wouldn't Kat be able to give her a sturdier body, a body that did not need a soul to survive?

How far would Kat go to save her friend?

Hell, how do we know she hasn't already done it? The surreal landscape of the Court and the Forest, the weird ways Coyote and Jones break the rules, that could all be a virtual reality where Kat has Annie's mindstate stored for safekeeping, as she works to keep her friend alive.

How would we know?

>>78194711
Actually I think the "soul" in this setting encompasses the mind and the personality. Fire elementals are unique in that they never return to the ether, but instead devote their entire soul to the creation of their child.

Meaning that when Annie has a kid whatever you can call "Annie" is going to be completely annihilated.

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>>78194711
>Why wouldn't Kat be able to give her a sturdier body, a body that did not need a soul to survive?

I like the way you think, anon. It would make interesting reading, but I see pitfalls in the writing of it. GC already ignores a lot of science and scientific method, so Tom would have to avoid obvious plot holes that break the suspension of disbelief. Introduce more mythic ingredients, but avoid getting too fantastical?

Otherwise, FWIW, your post reminded me of John Searle's Chinese room argument against a machine method of replacing consciousness.