Heard anything about this, /co/? Are you excited for it?

>>78156345
>those noses
dropped

>>78156345
>leg hair
>fatty
>those noses

No thank you

>>78156399
...what?

>>78156345
Marjorie Liu is the only name on that cover I would give half a thought about.

>>78156399
>>78156425
>Disrespecting traditional Japanese flag warpaint

>>78156345
>Margaret Atwood
wait, what?
THE Margaret Atwood? That one?

>>78156345
>selfies
>pink Nintendo DS

Fucking patriarchy, those girls are casuals as best

>>78156345
shill please go

>>78156345
Is that comic on the top right of Wonder Woman kissing Superman?

I feel oppressed

>>78156345
Killer thighs on the top one.

Very flattering cover.

>>78156345
ugh

>>78156686
Yeah basically this

>>78156345
I'm not personally interested in it, but it does look to have a ton of content. With the creators involved I would expect it to be pretty queer though.

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Good God, people are going to make fun of this art trend so much.

>>78156686
This

looks like some ol' gay shit to me

>>78156928
What art trend?

>>78157047
tumblr

>>78157047
Terrible-looking twee cartoony horseshit.

>>78156519
Yeah,bet they don't even know about Marvel outside of the movies.

>Secret loves

So is this gonna be about how they like stuff that's not geeky? Cause if you're calling them geek girls liking geeky stuff it's a secret.

That title alone is enough to trigger man-children.

>>78156345
thick?

>>78156345
That's kinda cute but I'll go with the flow and say/ Tumblr for ya

>>78156345
I'm not excited for anything anymore. If it is lacking in quality, faggots will obsess over it and it'll either be SJWs or anti-SJWs, or both fighting over it like morbidly obese bears and a box of leftover chicken.

>>78157324
>Cause if you're calling them geek girls liking geeky stuff isn't a secret.

I can't wait for the mra's and mgtows to start crying.

>>78156345
Why are there ovals on their face?

>>78157360
>>78157527
nice meme desu

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>>78156345
>Geek Girls
>only date
>women
>"people" of color
>Or Hitler's ideal of the Uber man, who does not care about nerd shit, but nerd girl x, gets him interested in it

>Hairy legs
>On an Asian

What?

>>78156345
>kamala on the bottom left

>>78157593
>supes and wondy on top right

>Heard anything about this, /co/? Are you excited for it?

I'm hoping for the biggest sack of WTF shitflinging insanity since "OUR LOVE IS REAL"

But it will probably be mild, disappointing, and barely Moon over June level.

Maybe if they do something retarded enough to start the whole gamer gate fuckcycle again, but I'm not counting on it.

>>78156506
Hmmm... Interest level just piqued.

>>78157656
Man, there's a lot of talent in the book. Like Atwood, obviously, but even some early cartoonists like Roberta Gregory.

I genuinely don't get how this offensive or improper in any way. I'm not going to buy the book, but as a romance/crush/dating anthology by geeky creators I do not get the problem with it existing.

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>>78156345
Why do girls think they can be nerd/geeks?

Why are so many girls these days calling themselves nerds/geeks to be trendy and quirky?

Why does every girl on Tinder put "GAMER/GEEK GURL XD" in their bio? Yeah okay, you own a ps4 and you play Dark Souls, you're a total geek now.

Why do women want to associate themselves with a introverted subculture, when they really can't truly be what you would actually define a "nerd/geek" to be? Women need to be social, men don't, you can even see one of these girls taking a fucking selfie in this picture.

I just don't get this sudden fascination girls suddenly have with desperately trying to be nerdy/geeky.

>>78157861
it's trendy

>geek girls

They don't exist...

>>78157861
>>78157894
Jesus Christ.

>>78157894
It's just, strange you know? 15-20 years ago being a nerd was viewed as deviant and "lame", and generally autistic. So in 10 years is liking MLP and being a furry going to be trendy too?

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>>78157904
They exist, but they're just like Geek Men.

Have you ever seen a fat ham planet in an invader zim hoodie? That's a geek girl.

These are trendies.

I haven't been to /co/ for a long time.

Is the lumberjanes author still pushing her shit?

>>78157861
Bandwagoning isnt restricted to one gender anon, there are a fuckton of fake geek guys now too because it's trendy

>>78157861
If a girl plays Dark Souls and is semi-decent at it I'm not going to stop her from calling herself a geek...

>>78157912
?

>>78157931
Best get into something like model trains.

That will never be popular

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>>78157557
>tfw no humor comic about the lives of a group of Waffen SS soldiers and their hilarious misadventures in the war

>>78156345
>Geek girls
>No glasses
>No zits
>No braces
>No ugly fashion choices

Geek girls are my fetish. These aren't geek girls. These are an art student's pale attempt at fitting in with geek culture

>>78156345
Cover looks crap, Crap line up, all female anthology #998937.

What's the point of these? Maybe women would be seen more equally if they didn't have to flaunt their genital attributes and just make "X Anthology"

Why is it that some women have to have a fucking hug box safe space??

>>78157861
Fuck off you autismo, of course geek girls exist. You just don't notice them because they're usually fat and quiet, in their rooms, gaming and shitposting on 4chan

>>78157941
Hipsters.

>>78157861
I don't own either a ps4 or Dark Souls.

...I do read the wiki pages though. That lore is interesting as fuck.

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>>78157959
>tfw your sister is much better at Dark Souls than you

>>78156345
>Sidecut


Wow she really does include that in all her works.

>>78158009
>Crap line up
>Margaret Atwood is crap

>Why is it that some women have to have a fucking hug box safe space??
IDK anon maybe because you make ridiculous comments like this.

I hate to say this, but you'd think Geek Girls would at least have one non-photogenic girl among them.

>tfw geek girl
>tfw fat and introverted
>tfw every attempt at portraying a 'geek girl' in media results in a model wearing thick rimmed glasses and taking a selfie

>>78156345

>this is how geek girls looks

I really hate how geek girls are depicted nowadays. OP images are not even considered geek girls, they look like hipster wanting to fit in. FUCK YOU!

>>78158009
You don't enjoy womanthologies? You can read them on your femputer while learning about herstory.

>>78156345
Okay, obvious problems with this aside

Who in their right mind thinks those faces are okay? I don't even care about the splotch of color in the middle of their face. They have black oblongs for eyes and a single white plate for teeth!

>>78158019
Can confirm. I try to stay somewhat fit though. Home gym.

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The concept of geek culture is retarded.

It was retarded in the 90s when dudes did it, and it's retarded when everyone is doing it now.

If you like something, you like it. It shouldn't be some kind of status symbol.

>Lol, I'm such a nerd, I've seen Star Wars like once on MTV
>Akshually, you can't be a real nerd unless you've downloaded the DeSpecialized Edishun on TPB, you fake nerd girl

Calling your self a geek is akin to calling yourself a faggot

>>78158072
>I hate to say this

But...you're right? Pic related aren't gamer girls they're just bitches who want to be trendy because they're decently attractive and pretty boring so they use their nerd knowledge to give themselves a few more attraction points.
These aren't geeks, these are boring basic bitches who jumped on one of the most over used bandwagons since the year 2000.

>>78157861
>girls
its not the girsl, casuals have overun the medium and they mock any real effort or quality. in a gamer world "Her Story" would not have won anything

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>>78158053
>Margaret Atwood
>some 76 year old novelist who's never written a comic

And how is my opinion Ridiculous anon?

>>78156345

Fuck off tumblr.

>2 White Girls

One of them has to be trans

>>78158120
I agree yet I feel upset when casuals try to worm into my shit or make authoritative statements about it

>>78158053
>IDK anon maybe because you make ridiculous comments like this.
top kek. really, his comments are so strong they warrant a hug box?

>>78156345
Remember when being a nerd/geek was all about the stuff that you were into rather than what your fuck parts looked like?

Simpler times.

>>78158146

If you don't know Atwood you're smalltime as fuck. Go read the MaddAddam books and come back when you got educated, philistine.

If you care about being considered a nerd enough that it irritates you when other people tell you that you aren't one or say that they are then you're probably an extremely boring person who needs to get a better sense of identity, this applies to men and women.

>>78158019
lol take deep breaths aspergers babby

>>78158019
LONDON

>>78156345

>LOL LOOK HOW HIP AND COOL WE ARE!

>SUCH NERDS! WE LOVE TO PLAY THE SAME GAMES AS YOU

>WE LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THE ANIME YOU LIKE

>WE LIKE TO WATCH THE CARTOON YOU LIKE TO WATCH

>WE LIKE COMIC BOOKS AND COSPLAY AS WELL

Fucking attention whores!

>>78158072
well everyone except the darker girl looks like a man in drag (I mean look at that bone structure)

>>78158237
This, the problem isn't the fact that they're women, but the fact that they're more concerned with being seen as being geeks than they are with the material they claim to like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igf96qnjHTE

>>78158019
calm down hambeast.

>>78158120
No, it made sense back in the day because the label helped you find people who would be interested in the same things you did because there wasn't a whole ton of things to digest and there was a lot of overlap

Nowadays though there's too many things to be a fan of for "geek" or "nerd" to mean anything. We could both call ourselves geeks but I love tabletop gaming and you watch science fiction from the 80s. People are jaded with "fake geek culture" because they expect to be able to find someone that shares their interests when they hear someone call themselves a geek

But that's their fault, not the "fake geek"s

>>78158250
>>78158127
man, some of you are projecting really hard or something.
its like. just a single image. how are you getting all that from that picture?
hipster as fuck? sure. attention whores? uh. what?

>>78158235
>recommending a YA book and a one that needs prior knowledge of other books from the same author
may the fire take you

>>78158235
If I were to read Maddaddam and go a round smelling my farts and calling people philistines I'd rather not. You could have swayed me if you used better language...

>>78156345

I love the way women are label as geek girls, but in reality they are nothing but fakers. Stay in the kitchen, please.

>>78158328
Oh it's a book for teenagers? fuck that then.

Thanks for elaborating more than that butt hurt anon.

>>78158316

Welcome to 4chan, is this your first time coming here?

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>>78158398
I miss these days

>>78158316
Are you fucking kidding me? Do you actually know any women anon?

>>78158476
>I can't wait to talk to someone about it.
>/co/
>looks like the perfect place

lol.

>>78158476

Do you have this but in /v/?

>>78156345
>An Anthology With Stories (about how males oppress us and single us out) By
Let's just be fucking honest here, we know that that is going to be 80%+ of the content in this book where men are concerned.

>>78156345

Not going to lie, I would fuck that black chick... I have low standards...

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>>78156506
Atwoods moving into a new age, time to adapt new mediums. My friend Johnny Christmas is working on this one.

>>78158085
You brought this on yourself

>>78156345
>Geek girls
>socializing in a group
>Taking a selfie for social media

The word "geek" really gets tossed around in the wrong directions these days, huh?

So when are NEETs going to be trendy and quirky?

>>78157861
>>78157947 gets it

>>78158085
Dumb greenarrowposter

>>78158628
>Low standards
Oh please anon, she's a qt. Stop going on /pol/.

So you'll shave half your head, but not your legs?

>>78158783
STOP RAPING HER

>>78157947
>there are a fuckton of fake geek guys now too
>now
It's not new. 'Geeks mock fake geeks' doesn't sell.

>>78158783
Gender roles brah, they're not good for tumblrists.

They love being unattractive to the majority.

>>78156345

This is going to be shit.

>>78157947
We used to just call them Fucking Poseurs. Now calling women out for the same shit upsets their feefees.

>>78156345

No thanks, I would rather waste my time in something more productive.

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>>78158001
My grandpa was in the Waffen SS.

Most of his good memories came from eating and having the best pickings of plunder with the least resistance because he was driving officers around right behind the main troop movements whenever they advanced.

That's the small window when the infantry's either ahead with the tanks or still trying to catch up and the people whose houses they emptied out had not yet dared to return home.

>>78157698
Not suggesting that it is offensive or improper. No problem with it existing.

But it's a envogue political topic. Having seen nothing but the cover, I really don't know what it is. Predictable girl power retreads. A sack of tumblrcrap. A glorified political pamphlet. Lightweight sci fi of the kind the Hugo voting block likes. Shojo girls in love homage.

Could be any of that. Could be something new. But I'm expecting something closer to POWER UP than anything I will either enjoy, or enjoy seeing crash and burn.

>>78157904
High power level geek girls are real. They just tend to have the same glomping tomoko/jabba the hut social skills as the geek guys. The twitchy twiggy crosseyed freak ordering yaoi direct from the comicet author, and would stab a bitch for not knowing their Utena from their Stephen universe? Still geek girl.

>>78156345
I grow sicker by the second I keep looking at this picture

>>78159082
Like donating to charity? Working at a soup kitchen? Or reading another overpriced rag?

>>78159183
>having the best pickings of plunder
Plunder is the act of someone who cannot produce anything of value themselves, Nazi scum.

>>78159183
A war like that must have been a surreal experience.

>>78157360

>manchild is a meme

What are you on about? That term existed for a while.

>>78157861
Uh oh here we go

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>>78156345
>let's show that comics and nerdom is for everyone
>by excluding boys and having only women work on this product

Stop. This is as bad as BET but saying a channel for only white people is racist. It's hypocritical and highlights the differences when it should be ignoring them.

>>78159234
...Are you talking to his grandfather?

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>>78156686

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Now I want to make a comic about a fat and spegetti spilling girl to satirize trendy geek girls.

>>78158085
sad to say, the general pop doesnt want to read a book about a fat lonely girl. the creators make these glorified ones (OP post) to give tumblr girls "role models".

im going to be making a story with the protag being a genuinely unattractive woman and i foresee it bombing. but im not sacrificing my vision for popularity

>>78156345
why would anyone be excited for this?

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>>78162461
Nobody wants to read fat lonely guys too but those who identify with it.

>>78158654
Once robots make the human workforce outdated.

>>78156345
I know this is a bate thread but it looks cute. Whatever. I'm probably not gonna read it but it's Definitely not made for me, so me having a strong opinion either way is fruitless. Who knows. Maybe it'll be a gem. Maybe it'll be absolute trash. but I'd need more before I actually form an opinion.

>>78162186
do it anon, if only because I rarely see them in print form

>>78156345
The one on the top left has Captain Qwark's chin.

>>78158024
go play meme souls and git gud. Also BB is great too

>>78156345
>Kelly Sue
>Lumberjanes artist
NOPE

>>78157557
Just reminds me of the Salon article from Thanksgiving of the feminist who got wet when faced with a real man at Thanksgiving and cheated on her beta male-feminist fiance with him.

>>78170810
Source? Sounds like a laugh

>>78156345
I don't like their faces, but I do like that there is a chubby one! Most definitely not worth reading though.

>>78156345
>Geek Girls
I couldn't think of a less engaging subject if I tried

Also
>Sidecuts
No thanks

>>78172369
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/25/i_fcked_a_republican_on_thanksgiving/
tl;dr:
Liberal feminist goes to a thankgiving dinner and refuses turkey because she's a vegetarian.
Alpha republican man who hasn't been been brainwashed by feminist ideology makes a snarky comment
Feminist's panties get absolutelly drenched as she sees what "toxic masculinity" is like and later abandons herself to the patriarchy
Meanwhile, her beta liberal fiance waits for her at home

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Is it the sequel to this awful, boring piece of shit or do the tumblrites just all draw precisely the same?

>>78174203
>Alpha republican man who hasn't been been brainwashed by feminist ideology
But whose penis is actually smaller than that of her liberal future husband.

>>78174294
Oh wow, that's the saddest thing anyone has ever written to try and make themselves feel better about their political orientation.

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>>78174312
>The whole thing couldn’t have lasted more than 15 seconds. He mumbled something I couldn’t make out and scurried to the bathroom.
What a real man.

>>78174331
If he didn't need any longer to nut in her why bother staying?

>>78174366
You're shit at damage control mate. The story is basically that she thought the conservatives were more masculine and dominating but at the end of the day he's got a tiny cock and is spurts prematurely. He doesn't even act macho about it, he runs off and hides. The beta husband meanwhile impregnates the woman and carries his genetic material to the next generation. How could you even interpret that as pro-conservative, are you retarded?

>>78156345
Which tumblr artist drew this? Wouldn't it be hard to draw under the pressure of the patriarchy? Is that why the DS is lumpy?

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>>78174469
I didn't read the story, I'm just winding you up because you're clearly a massive insecure pussy who gets your tiny little testicles in a twist about (American) politics. Now you get to sit there and feel like the retard that you are for entering into a /b/ style argument and actually getting upset.

>>78174497
>Which tumblr artist drew this?
Literally any of them because every single tumblr artist draws in this style

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>>78157861
I'm a 40 year old woman (yes really) and I've been a nerd probably longer than you've been alive. I know others like me. Normally I wouldn't out myself like this, but holy fuck am I ever tired of dipshits like you saying this.

>>78158009
Why do some guys think everything has to be aimed at them?

>>78156345
>Mariko Tamaki
Neat.
Still skipping.

>>78156345
>leaving your 3DS open and unattended on a bed full of people
FAKE, and DROPPED

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>>78162186
It's called Watamote! anon.

And the fake geek girls hate it. It's gotten scathing articles written about it by the usual hambeasts on kotaku.

>>78174237
tumblrjanes gets into the supernatural around issue 6. Typical magical-girl horseshit where Apollo and Diana are teens visiting a summer camp for mortals and there's wishing and powers going around.

>>78162186
Just read Watamote.

>>78175745
I've never seen fake geek girls hate this. Why would they?

>>78156345
That one girl not shaving her legs or something?

>>78175983
Because she's objectively a horrible person.

>>78175745
I am actually like halfway behind on this, need to catch up

Please tell me it didn't turn into "cute girls doing cute things with hikkikomori stuff forced inbetween for laughs" like Umaru-chan

>>78175983
Because it hits too close to home.

To ba fair though the Kotaku writer who called Watamote "The most mean-spirited anime I've ever watched" is a man.

>>78176020
>Tomoko is a horrible person
Tomoko is directly based on the highschool days of the writer and artist.

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>>78176045
>To ba fair though the Kotaku writer who called Watamote "The most mean-spirited anime I've ever watched" is a man.
Ah, so he's a lump of lutefisk that never watched anything before 2007 or so.

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>>78175766
Apparently GDT loves it too

>>78156345
I'm not even sure why but this hurts to look at.

>>78176094
>Not Bokurano

At least pick the man's darkest work.

>>78176099
Of course he loves Lumberjanes, it's like the melted butter of girl crew stories.

>>78176140
Bokurano is too dark; Shadow Star is closer to the average level of misery that a lot of shows had in the early-to-mid 2000s.

>>78176062
Have you ever met a high school girl? That doesn't disprove my point at all.

>>78176094
Narutaru is great and all but if you actually read the article, the problem he had with the anime was that people are laughing at real issues people with mental illness experience. There isn't anything fake geek about it; you actually have to immerse yourself in the culture and watch the show to get to the point of reviewing something like this.

Also it's delicious clickbait. "What? This guy doesn't like the anime we all like? How come?"

>>78158004
Thank you, these are twee loving artfags trying to be as nerdy as possible. It's the same on tumblr when a really cute girl has mediocre art but knows how to dress well, takes great selfies and actually has social skills.

Then you have certain fags on /ic/ who go "womenz can't into art" and they can, they're just rarely going to be that cute hipster girl with the beret and nice tumblr. It's usually going to be the fat goth chick or the mousy unkempt awkward mess.

>>78176045
Can you name a more mean spirited anime that is mainstream as Watamote?

>>78176210

Watamote isn't mainstream.

>>78156345
>ctrl-F
>Carla Speed McNeil
>0 results found

Clearly no need to read this shit thread. Congratulations on your lack of taste, /co/.

>>78157861
>women need to be social
topkek

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>>78156345
I hate other women so goddamn much sometimes for pushing shit like this and making people think girls into geeky shit are just trying to be ~*~geek girls~*~ out to ~*~smash the patriarchy while reading feminist-friendly comics~*~ for twitter likes or some stupid fucking bullshit. Like goddamn this makes me so fucking angry I can't even put it into words.

>>78176225
There are degrees of mainstream, like among fandoms. I'm using it loosely to describe something that is popular enough to be on Kotakus radar.

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>>78174366
>small dick
>"fast"
>gets 15secs of sex with a drunk chick who picked him because he checked her political fetish box that night

So Lion, would Alpha.

>>78176273
I don't understand what "~*~" is supposed to mean.

>>78175745
>comic about actual spaghetti girl
>actual speghetti girls enjoy it
>fake speghetti girls hate it

Watamote is doing god's work.

>>78158476
Replace the comic book with Steven Universe.

>This series is awesome. I can't wait to talk to someone about it.
>Hello everybo...

>GARNET DOESN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO GET EVERYTHING SHE WANTS.
>PEARL WANTS ROSE'S DICK SO BAD. ALL PEARLS ARE SLUTS, MAN.
>WAIFUS
>AMETHYST IS OUR TRASH QUEEN..

>>78176180
Well, that made me go track the article down to read it for myself.
Your summary is precise, but I can't help but feel like I'm still right; if some black humor and a little Fremdscham about social anxiety and depression is enough for him to say that it's making light of them (or that it's the "most mean-spirited" anime he's ever seen) then he's just got a low threshold for that sort of thing in general.

Now I can write a clickbait article, too:
"My First Trip Back to Kotaku Since 2012, and It Was as Shitty as Ever"

>>78176303
Shoujo italics.

>>78176316
I don't know how anybody could hate it

>>78176273
but what if it has a sci fi twist or something
i mean it cant be a total self fellating wankfest can it

>>78176344
But Narutaru is a serious drama that handles dark themes very well for the most part and shows what depression can lead to without making it something funny. Watamote plays something serious for laughs.

>>78176303
just girl things

>>78176352
I've seen trendy geek types say it's just pseudo-masturbation fodder for neckbeards to jerk off to seeing an "unrealistic" awkward woman being treated badly or some stupid shit like that.

>>78158476
That girl looks too young to be posting here anyway. You gotta be 18.

>>78176303
cute~~

>>78176276
>>78176276
Not that anon but the simple fact that we're calling it Watamote and not "I'ts Not My Fault I'm Not Popular" means it isn't mainstream. Mainstream anime goes by english titles because casuals can't into subs.

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>look at geek girls kickstarter page

WOW SURPRISE SURPRISE KATE LETH CAN'T STOP TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT HER SEX LIFE

>>78175745
>fat

>>78176517
youve never been on tumblr have you

>>78176569
See I know you're trying to frame that as "Look at how ignorant this guy is" but I still consider that accusation a good thing and moreover it doesn't actually contradict my argument beyond the anecdotal, so either way you've screwed up.

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>>78176397
It's literally just 250 pages of women talking about relationships with a veneer of geekiness painted over it because that's what gets women attention these days.

>>78176517
Watamote is shorter. Being lazy is mainstream and I ain't weeb enough to type all that out.

>>78176645
sounds boring
but maybe if i read 200 issues theyll fuck

>>78176397
>but what if it has a sci fi twist or something
Then sadly, it probably wouldn't have the title it does.
When a story isn't about thinly-veiled autobiographical slice of life crap it doesn't usually have to be sold on the basis of its gender focus. To put it another way, a story about guys can be about them running off to be pirates in space or time traveling or something. A story about girls has to be about the girls having relationships. It might have a tiny bit of sci-fi or fantasy flavoring, but the actual core is going to be "relatable" and, as you said, self-fellating 90% of the time.

>>78176656
I for one always call it by its full title Watashi ga Motenai no wa Dō Kangaetemo Omaera ga Warui every time I mention the show.

>>78174931
Faaaaag

>>78176711
>issues
Nah man, it's an "anthology" because for some reason women can't into floppies.
...Probably because we call them floppies.

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>>78176645
>examines the fandoms that we ship

>>78174931
If any of this were true then you obviously wouldn't count as one of the kinds of people popularized in >>78156345\ and would be old and mature enough to realize this and get on with your life.

>>78176764
That sounds incredibly annoying, but at least you've got a little extra geek cred.

>>78176432
They must have no sense of humor whatsoever, that's the fucking joke; nobody ever actually treats her bad. It must make them uncomfortable with how realistic Tomoko's awkwardness is, I guess. Plus her rape-y faces.

>>78156345
I can't wait for them to make obscure reference to games like ocarina of time and then fight the evil goobers gaders

>>78176906
>>78175745
The only article we've seen is about how Kotaku's readership loves it but one guy doesn't because muh mental illness isn't funny.

>>78176432
that's so dumb! i'm a woman and a feminist and when i was 15 i was basically tomoko, just less perverted. but stuff like ordering a burger, taking pictures in a photobooth, not knowing how to navigate a victoria's secret, barely having any friends due to my my toxic personality but blaming everybody else instead... totally me! male geek characters get this kinda treatment all the time, but watamote is one of the few times i've seen a "geek girl" character have the same kinda toxic personality AND get her just desserts for it.

really can't think of any western examples except for maybe enid coleslaw and helga pataki, which is funny because both of them despite being deeply flawed get idolized on tumblr and the like for being 'feminist icons' - though perhaps this is because they are portrayed in a more fleshed out and human way than female characters typically are. if this is so, then tomoko is a feminist icon too - feminists should want more honest depictions of women, even if they're unflattering or unpleasant. we're gross and awful too and i don't think that's shown enough...

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>>78177031
>feminists should want more honest depictions of women, even if they're unflattering or unpleasant. we're gross and awful too and i don't think that's shown enough...
pfft hahahahahahaha yeah okay
That's why Harley Quinn has to be a heroic role model now.

>>78177031
You poor woman. What internalized misogyny you must have. Showing that women can be unflattering or unpleasant or gross or toxic isn't feminist. Feminist depictions of women means showing them beating up guys and complaining about mansplaining.

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>>78177048
I'm done

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>>78177090
No, seriously.

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>>78176645
>>78177048
It's amazing how this mentality has extended into actual creative works as well.

>>78177140
>Lasso compels truth
>Can't stop mansplaining
>Therefore, Mansplaining = Truth

>>78177140
Do you think they realised that this line is literally saying he's right but just ignore it?

>>78177162
There needs to be an edit of this image where it's a closeup of cleavage instead.

>>78177188
Yeah the TwitchTV edit.

>>78177162
I wanna see more of the cute girl

>>78177087
>>78177090
I mean... mansplaining is a thing even though the term for it is kinda silly. I've definitely had men try to explain things to me as though I am a cat or small child, especially in comics settings.

But anyways, I believe in gender equality and notice the way some others are going about it is silly. The brand of feminism that annoys most folks here is trendy feminism (or "white feminism" as it's called on tumblr) that's weak tough white girl power bullshit that ignores how men, POC, etc are affected by the same societal shortfalls, just in different ways.

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>>78177166
>>78177171
No it's not, mansplaining is when a man explains something to a woman in a condescending way. He is telling her the truth, but patronizing her while doing so.

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>>78177268
>I mean... mansplaining is a thing

>>78177295
>He is telling her the truth,
You just said that's not what it is though.
Maybe this is why you perceive it as condescending.

>>78177295
>when a man explains something to a woman in a condescending way.

You mean the same exact thing that women do? It's almost like it's not a gendered thing, and instead something assholes do.

>>78177268
Yes, men explaining things in condescending ways happens. I've found I get much more condescending, insulting talk directed at me from women though. I'm a woman. And it's usually from those girl power feminism type women too. Nobody is as mean or insulting to women as other women are.

>>78177295
And that's cause she was being an antagonising idiot. If you are rude people are rude back, but if you are nice you can have a good conversation.

Yet when a woman is condescending we don't give it a nothing word, cause we fucking have one it is called condescending

>>78177354
something something no power
something something systematic
something different circumstances something something

>>78177369
>Nobody is as mean or insulting to women as other women are.
Yeah I'm pretty sure you're just sexist.
Which, believe me, is A-OK.

>>78177268
Isn't mansplaining when a man explains to a woman something that can be only experienced by women, like abortion, preginancy, PMS, etc...

>>78177369
This. Fuck, it's especially prevalent amongst "geeks girls". Can't count the number of times I've seen blog posts start with some variation of

>Uggh sigh, creators of [thing I find problematic], it's looks like you and me are gonna have to sit down and have a little talk

And these bitches complain about men being patronizing and condescending.

>>78177031
You should really try to source your comics from countries that aren't the US then.

>>78177420
It's more like using that tone to explain sex to a kid and that simplistic way of explaining the complex subject because they can't possibly know the basics of anything.

>>78177420
I always found that silly as like a male doctor will probably know way more. being a woman doesn't give you perfect knowledge on all of them, in fact living through them is more likely to colour your view and make it more personal knowledge rather than as a objective whole

>>78177420
Which is still dumb, since women love to consider themselves experts on what it's like to be a guy.

>>78157959
>Dark Souls
>not plebshit

>>78177424
>Okay, sweetie. You just have internalized misogyny, hon. You're clearly just doing [thing you enjoy] to impress men. Blocked. :)

How is this not considered the most condescending bullshit ever? Especially when it's coming from a woman who should fucking realize how she's talking to other women.

>>78177424
Sitting down and having a little talk is condescending?

>>78177420
Which isn't even that difficult.
I mean shit, you'd be surprised at how many women don't even know how bras work.

>>78177492
>if you're a man, you don't know what it's like being a woman and your opinions on women's matters isn't wanted

>if you're a woman, you don't know what it's like being a man but your opinions are still listened to as if you're the expert on the subject

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>>78177424
Yeah, that shit is stomach-turning. It's especially bad when people start up with that shtick and they end up missing the point completely. But even when they're right, that sort of nonsense makes me wary.

>>78177499
>How is this not considered the most condescending bullshit ever?
> it's coming from a woman
So as not to be accused of mansplaining I'm just going to suggest you look up the word "tautology"

>>78177499
Because these people are massive narcisists who can't comprehend why someone would disgreee witht them.

>>78177503
No but talking like that is.

>>78177499
Doing something to impress women is what a lot of guys get accused of doing. The rage against geek girls is also rooted in this. It's shitty no matter where it comes from.
On this subject: the term "special snowflake." Assuming someone is doing something just to be different is fucking stupid.

>>78177503
Treating others like they're children is.

>>78174931

Speaking as a 32 year old, finally. Finally there's someone here older than me.

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>>78176645
>It's literally just 250 pages of women talking about relationships with a veneer of geekiness painted over it because that's what gets women attention these days.

This reminds of the time that there was a Supernatural convention at the same hotel my dad was attending a medical conference. His reaction to a mass to tumblrites was just utter bewilderment and horror.

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>>78157861

>with a introverted subculture

It's AN, you idiot! "With AN introverted subculture!" You sound like a damn fool when you say it wrong!

>>78177575
>Supernatural convention
that actually sounds like hell. What would they even do there? Buy shitty fan merch of their OTP?

>>78162461
>im going to be making a story with the protag being a genuinely unattractive woman and i foresee it bombing.

isn't the main character of Power Up a fat piece of shit?

>>78177602
Yea but she's black and sassy.

>>78177602
No she's a beautiful plus sized womym of color.

>>78177596
Pee in ball pits.

>>78177602
Yeah but it's "empowering" fat.

>>78177596

My dad avoided that part of the hotel like a hellhole, but apparently, the actors were there. So probably a shipping/fangirl fest.

>>78177555
Spoken like someone who's never had to deal with a special snowflake. If you knew what a real one was like, you'd know why false positives aren't worth crying over.

PURGE SNOWFLAKES

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>>78158229

come off it anon, if you have a vag geek culture's basically always been pic related for good or for ill

I swear half the women in my anime club went gay because otherwise the guys wouldn't stop breathing on them while we watched Harmageddon

>>78177497
You won't know being a pleb means until you see people demanding skippable gameplay in all games because they just want to enjoy the story.

>>78177555
>Assuming someone is doing something just to be different is fucking stupid.
It's not just to be different. A lot of times it's also to piss off their conservative parents.

I don't get this. Hipsters have been a thing for decades. If skaters or metalheads or goths talked about poseurs, people would go "okay yeah, there are poseurs". Everyone thinks wiggers are both real, and a walking joke.

But as soon as the "nerds" point out that there are shallow people that emulate surface level subculture shit they're into, it's suddenly WHOA THERE DON'T BE A GATEKEEPER THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS PHONIES FAKE GEEKS ARE A MYTH

>>78159194
>Lightweight sci fi of the kind the Hugo voting block likes.

Oh, god, I can't help but bite.

Last Hugo winner I read was Ancillary Justice. Was that lightweight?

>>78177659
Cause that's what the fakes in the other cultures would say as well.

>>78177677
Fair enough. It just seems way louder here than it does there.

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>>78177643
>people demanding the ability to turn off enemies or skip past challenges so they can see the story
>not just watching a walkthrough on youtube, saving $50, and not ruining games for everyone else

>>78177268

You fucking retard

What you call "mansplaning" is a purely sexist interpretation of oneself inability to properly argue or explain shit, implying that the sex of the person have anything to do with it. You are the sexist one, anon. I'd say misogynistic too, but sadly (and ironically) it is a sexist term that can only be applied to men.

Also I find it hilarious that you call it "white feminism" like, what the fuck? Are you telling me that the skin color of the woman change something to the validity of her argument (regardless of said argument is even about)? That a white skinned feminist voice is somehow less valuable than the one of a minority feminist? How the fuck can you even think up of such things and call yourself open minded and that you are for the defense of woman rights, when you pick and choose what is it that should be a woman?

The reason why peoples are gradually hating feminism more and more is because of your constant hypocrisy and refusal to confront this omnipresent part of 3rd wave feminism. Reread what you just posted, and if you cannot see your own hypocrisy then I'm saddened to tell you that you are part of the problem you claim to be fighting against.

Beside, how the fuck can you expect peoples to look and listen to you seriously when you cry about such inane bullshit while woman in others country are actually fighting for their rights, to the point that they life are actually under threat?

It probably was bait but given the constant influx of tumblerites and newfags to the site chance are that it isn't.

I am hype for anything with Mariko Tamaki

>>78177296
It literally does though. My aunt was vice-president at a tech company for years and men constantly assumed she was a secretary or tried to explain basic things about computers to her. I have similar things happen to me with comics. I don't use the term "mansplaining" myself though, so my definition may be off.

>>78177369
I'm a woman and I disagree with you, but I'm not gonna assume your experience isn't valid because it's not my own...

>>78177424
>>78177499
Not every brand of feminism is the same. I hate that shit and don't explain things that way to people. It's like this "nobody should be naive" attitude even though most of these folks probably didn't read Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack until college and don't get that not everybody has the same learning experiences at the same time.

>>78177698
Now see this >>78177268?
THIS is how you do that impression.

>>78177696

To be fair, it's real hard to find good people on youtube to watch playthrough. Lotta annoying nerds

>>78177692
Cause we are currently centre stage. Games, comics etc are more prevalent so more stuff wants to capitalise on it so throw the net further

Wait till the comic movie trend is dying and it will be normal again

>>78156399
Stop dropping shit on the ground
My ears hurt

>>78177698
>That a white skinned feminist voice is somehow less valuable than the one of a minority feminist?
>Beside, how the fuck can you expect peoples to look and listen to you seriously when you cry about such inane bullshit while woman in others country are actually fighting for their rights, to the point that they life are actually under threat?

Ha ha! Contradictions.

>>78177268

>The neologism[9] showed up simultaneously in multiple places, so its origin is difficult to establish.[9] In an essay titled Men Explain Things to Me, Solnit told an anecdote about a man at a party who said he had heard she had written some books. She began to talk about her most recent book at the time, on Eadweard Muybridge, whereupon the man cut her off and asked if she had "heard about the very important Muybridge book that came out this year" – not considering that it might be (as, in fact, it was) Solnit's book.[10]

>The word is thought to have been first used in 2008 or 2009,[11] shortly after Solnit published her April 2008 blog post. In it, she did not use the word mansplaining, but described the phenomenon as "something every woman knows."

>A month later, the word appeared in a comment on the social network LiveJournal, and its use has grown since.[3] It soon became popular among feminist bloggers, and then in mainstream cultural commentary.[3][9] It was included on The New York Times' 2010 word of the year list,[9] nominated for the American Dialect Society's most creative word of the year honor in 2012,[2] and added to the online Oxford Dictionaries in 2014.[12]

>>78177555

>special/unique snowflake aren't a thing

Nigga you serious?

>>78156345
When I was younger, I went through this ornery counter-weeaboo phase where i vocally hated anime cause of same face and lazy art. I still am not big into it, but at least with anime, it a huge industry that's oversaturated, and arts have to use the cut-and-paste facial characteristics to meet deadlines and actually make money. Not only is this tumblr style usually an individual, or at least much smaller process (I'm going to assume op's pic is of a webcomic, but I guess it could very well be print with our industry as it is), but this art manages to be even more lazy and boring. These American artists literally have no excuses.
Also if I was still in high school, I would be the most insufferable anti-tumblr art cunt and probably have even less friends than I did, so I'm glad I got out before internet culture became such a fucking thing.

>>78177698
Like I said in a different post, I think the term is silly and don't use it personally. I've only heard it on TV and I had to google it just now, so my definition may be off from lack of familiarity.

I am a white woman. I'm not saying white women's opinions are less valid, aren't real women, whatever, etc. What I mean is that in highly publicized, mainstream feminism the focus is on white women and their experiences. Black, Latina, Asian and other women of color have a different experience than white women because of they experience the intersection between racism and sexism, but mainstream feminism almost wholly ignores these narratives and how they differ from my own white Western one. I don't think my voice is less valuable, but I also think it's better to let others with an experience that differs from my own to speak for themselves, rather than me trying to speak for or over them when the best I can do is empathize with them.

Also I've been on /co/ for seven years, unfortunately.

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>>78177701
Why is your taste always horrid
You and Skip, namefags are so terrible

>>78177696
"But I want to make choices and create my own character!"

>>78177763
Wow, 2009? I hadn't heard it until the Year of Our Lord 2014.

>>78177905

It's been around a while.

It's a potentially useful term turned into a retarded buzzword and misused by landwhales anytime someone disagrees with them about anything.

>>78177951
It was never useful but other than that yes.

>>78177882
Sorry, I really enjoyed This One Summer, Skim and Super Mutant Magic Academy. So Mariko is an artist I get excited for. You don't have to share my opinion. I take it you don't like her work? If so can I ask why? I love hearing about what makes people like or hate different artists.

> the secret life of geek boys:
they troll women
they stalk women
they get together to hate women
they ruin the fandom
they comment negatively on Feminist Frequency videos

>>78177997

Unrelated to that guy,

Is Super Mutant Magic Academy still up as a webcomic?

>>78178022
That still sounds more interesting.

>>78177791
>>78177659
>>78177630
You can tell someone they're annoying, but telling someone "you don't really like this, you just want to be special" assumes too much.

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>>78178059
Anon, everyone just wants to be special. So no, it's not that much of an assumption

>>78177717

That not "mansplaning", that explaining something while being pissed off. As far as I am aware, humans of either gender can be pissed off, and it doesn't come out any better. And beside, you have absolutely no way to know my gender so you are actually prejudiced against me, else how could you tell it was "man"splaining and not just a simple explanation? So please just take that intellectually dishonest term and stick it up where you think it belong.

>>78177753

How it is a contradiction? I'm trying to understand what is it in which I said that is contradictory. It feel like you are putting word in my mouth, implying that I believe that all the womens in others country aren't white skinned or something as absurd as that, while I have said absolutely nothing that would even point toward me thinking that. Or are you implying that I think that the skin color of a woman have anything to do with her country of origin? Or maybe it is that you think that I think that a feminist worth is decided by her skin color while you are the one that said that? Fuck this is confusing, help me a little.

>>78174469

At the end of the day, the feminist whore cheated on her pussified husband with what she initially perceived to be a more masculine man. And the pussified husband is sitll marrying that piece of shit. That's feminism.

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When did women start coming to /co/? Did they get a federal from reddit?

>>78178144
Lol I meant referral.

>>78177967

It's like the Bechdel Test, a joke observation that turned into dogma.

Also, being confident and being able to bullshit about things you don't know is an important skill, one that men do better. That just means women need to get better at it.

>>78157861
Margaret Hamilton could be considered a nerd, surely? Unless you and I have different definitions of what nerd means. But then, I do recognize she's an exception and even though I feel she has enough qualifications to do so, something tells me she probably does not care to call herself a nerd or anything like that.

But that's the thing with the truly brainy women, isn't it? They're too busy learning and applying the things that they've already learned to let people know that they're SUCH nerds lol omg

>>78178144

>being this new

4chan /co/ always had a large female population, more so before this bullshit geekgirl trend.

>>78158250
Don't forget the fucking cat. All geek girls love cats. I'm surprised there isn't a parrot there.

>>78178022
don't forget the mass amounts of self hatred that far outdoes the hatred for women.

>>78174237
Man how I wish Kate Beaton's style didn't become as popular as it is.

>>78177718
just add "no commentary" in the search bar and done.

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>>78178144
Girls have always been here, anon.

For me, one of the initial draws of the internet is that people assume you're a dude unless you specify.

>>78178102
>That not "mansplaning
I wasn't accusing you of mansplaining. I was accusing you of tumblr-esque armchair activism.

>How it is a contradiction?
Okay, Mojo I'll explain.
You posit that a white feminist voice is just as important as that of a minority feminist, because that kind of colorblindness is what entry level egalitarians always do. But then you hide behind the "starving African's defense" and cite the women in predominately brown countries that are under actual life threatening oppression as being more important and that first world white chick problems are "inane bullshit".

Either the voices and complaints all matter, or some are more important than others. You can't have it both ways.

Now let me be clear. I agree that first world white chick problems are *inane* bullshit. I think if you're able to whine about oppression on twitter then odds are you aren't oppressed in any meaningful way because hey, you have a computer or smart phone, internet access, and live in a country that doesn't censor either. And here's the thing. That's kind of the reason for the whole "white feminism" subdivide in the first place; it was a bunch of people going "Wait these kids don't have any meaningful argument here they're just whining about piddly ass bullshit". I'd just as soon throw the whole thing out. But your gun jumping attempt at appearing colorblind and egalitarian? That's "spoiled millennial white girl feminism" 101. It's conflating all the problems together just like that "people of color" bullshit.

>>78178213
Parrots are the new ukelele.

>>78178185

>Look up Bechdel Test

Holy fuck, what? There are peoples out there who genuinely believe that this hilariously stupid test give a clear representation of whether or not a movie is sexist?

You can't be serious.

>>78178300
Women play parrots?

>>78178312
Yes, there are people that stupid.
Whenever you think "There can't be people that stupid" I want you to take ten seconds and remind yourself there are.

>>78178315
You think ukuleles are about actually playing the ukulele?

>>78177896
>not playing Der Langrisser

>>78178312

The worst part is that the author herself says that she never goes to the movies for that reason and it's a weird quirky thing.

I swear to god, people's ability to miss the joke is incredible.

>>78178312
Yes, because fiction is no longer about storytelling, it's about feminism and representation...

>>78178022
Not men's fault women are easily trolled

>>78178378
People use it to judge media representing women. I mean understand why. If your female characters only talk about men and relationships they're not really representing women very well. They do talk about more than those two things in real life.

>>78178434
>If your female characters only talk about men and relationships they're not really representing women very well.

I'd argue to the contrary.

>>78178434

It's not even meant to judge media. just show the huge discrepancy

>>78178434
>If your female characters only talk about men and relationships they're not really representing women very well.
And?

>>78178210
You're a real dumbfuck if you actually believe that.
/co/ has always had a large population of men pretending to be female, and that's it.

>>78178434
I have personally written porn comics that pass the test. They talk about their boobs.

>>78178099
Then isn't it a moot point? Everyone already is special in that unique experiences that can never be efficiently shared or expressed fully kind of way.

>>78178485
You never heard the /co/ sings stuff?
Hell of a lot of girls singing in those.
.../v/'s too, which is way more impressive.

I mean, I guess it;s entirely possible the board is populated by eunuchs but that seems like a far more complicated explanation.

>>78178434
Characters should be judged by how good they are, not how they represent an entire group (which is impossible). Of course a character who only talks about one thing doesn't come across as an interesting one.

>>78178505
Some people want to be more special than others.

>>78178448
You must only know stupid, shallow women then.

>>78178552
Yes, the average female.

>>78178353
This is getting really weird. It is as if somewhere there's a "just be yourself" story to be had somewhere with a fake geek person who gets in touch with their inner jock and thrives after coming to the realization that they don't have to fake it to impress these total fucking losers who care this much about true geek culture.

>>78178552
That's not difficult.

>>78178552
>being judgmental because some women don't share your interests

>>78178042
Sorry I am a bad guy to ask, I did not even know it was a Web comic

>>78178528
Which is why this whole thing came about. If they're just characters off to the side whatever, but I think it's more for characters with more than a couple of lines.

>>78178540
You don't think that, you just want to be more special than me.

>>78178597
The don't have to share my interests to be stupid and shallow if the only they care about is men and relationships.

>>78178485

Are you retarded?

Do you think all those husbando dumps are just lonely closeted males?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4528TObIC0&index=8&list=PL_7s0KoFgRssXrGtOYcf7ZM_E4kdlV2Wk

>>78178485
Whatever helps you feel more comfortable shitposting here

>>78178639
Some people only care about relationships, some people only care about entertainment, no big deal.

>can literally only draw in one style

come on, you're suppose to be a professional artist at this point.

>>78178312
>>78178434
I want to write or direct an over top testosterone fest action movie with a macho sexist lead character but it would have a scene where two or three female characters are talking to each other and degrading the fuck out of themselves and each other but, the kicker is none of their conversation would reference any males.

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>>78178528

>Characters should be judged by how good they are, not how they represent an entire group

This. Unfortunately people have this weird tendency to act as though any failings or bad qualities possessed by a female / minority character are some sort of bigoted commentary against all women/minorities. Sometimes a flawed character is just a flawed character.

>>78178869

Or just make them slutty lesbians who constantly make out but they have all the characteristics of stronk female characters.

It would lead to such funposting.

>>78178967
>Sometimes a flawed character is just a flawed character.
And that sometimes is when they're guys.

>>78178253
>Kate Beaton's

Is she really patient zero?
Her webcomic is very popular in Tumblr, so I don't think it should come as a surprise that everyone is trying to copy an artstyle that is intentionally lazy....

>>78159912
Because there's never been a comic or tv show made only by men or only by white people.

>>78179006

Well, yes. A white male can be anything from a saint to a scumbag and no one will bat an eye, but if a woman is sleazy or a black guy is a thug it's "poor representation". There should be no limits to characterization.

>>78178253
It takes zero skill, is completely inoffensive (a hard feat considering the faggots who worship is are offended by everything) and is just so utterly and totally bland that it doesn't even matter if you color it or not. It'll only be weak pastel water colors anyway so that's even more effort that can be saved for blog posting.

>>78178869
>action packed movie
>during a fight scene, cut to two or three women talking at a restaurant
>have the fight crash through said restaurant

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>>78156345
Is this just western female-only Genshiken?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genshiken

>>78179122
It sounds a bit Family Guy and yet I like it. I'll use it.

>>78178990
That is a strong possibility. The goal of movies is not to get high ratings on imdb and rotten tomatoes but, to inspire overused /tv/ memes and, as you said, funposting.

>>78178488

>not linking to your comics

fag

>>78179060
Actually anon, I gotta point out how eye-roll worthy the stereotypical white rich guy bully prep from 80's movies is.

Nobody is going to claim racism, but its just as bad as the black thug or female black widow in terms of lazy characterization.

they look like aliens

seriously who think that's an ok way to draw eyes like that? THEY LOOK LIKE FUCKING ALIENS

FUCKING ALIENS

>>78178967

weird, Jessica Jones is a verbally abusive, selfish drunk who ruins peoples' lives and she's hailed as a good female character precisely because of that

>>78179228
Quit being problematic.

>>78179261
On the other hand so was Carol Danvers but in order to be an empowering role model all of that stuff got deleted.

>>78179212

Oh sure, it's still pretty damn lazy. But if you try to complain about it people will look at you like you're a whiny baby. If you're talking about lazy characterization for a female character or other minority though, people will take you more seriously.

Of course, white rich guy bully prep kids actually did and do exist. It's just the overusage of them that makes it cringe-inducing. On the other hand, it also opens opportunities to present that stereotype and then subvert it by making them actual people instead of cardboard cutouts for the audience to hate.

>>78178869
Okay. You're clearly not being serious, so there's no point in taking that and finding it offensive or poorly representing women.

>>78179328
Ironically feminist types ended up complaining about the character because of that.

>>78179328
To be fair, Kamala wouldn't know that stuff.

Its mostly only within the cape community and in the Ultimate universe that everyobe knows the cape dirty secrets the audiance knows.

>>78157861
Plain and simple? A biological need to try and remain relevant to men.

Why do you think women bandwagon on to everything that men find interesting? It's because it's a threat to their worth.

>Men like sports
>Women complain and think it's brutish and violent
>Men continue to like sports, prioritize it over women
>Women suddenly like sports, think the violence is good and healthy
>Women suddenly claim there isn't enough woman recognition is sports, demand womens league of every known sport with special rules for women because the male rules are too hard, violent, etc.

>Men like videogames
>Women think they're a waste of time, too violent, etc.
>Men prioritize games over women
>Women hop on the gaming bandwagon and get in to the absolute most basic of games, claim they're OMG SO GEEKY GRRLS
>Men tell them not to take their hobby as a joke and acting like they're experts on gaming when all they've played is the kokori village intro of LoZ OOT and quit because the deeku tree was too hard or because they cleared 3 mario worlds
>Women who take gaming seriously don't want to be associated with the uber casuals trying to grab male attention
>Uber casual women get in a pissfit, if they can't be accepted without taking the hobby and culture seriously, they'll try and control it
>Actual female gamers tell them to fuck off
>Men tell them to fuck off
>MUHSOGGYKNEES left and right, nitpick every little thing
>Bandwagon hostile takeover is in full force
>Developers cater to them because even though they don't represent the majority of their customers or sales, they have a massive sway in the media due to being a vocal minority who can get negative reviews seen by all thanks to social media idiots
>Men decide to piss off to another hobby
>Suddenly women don't care anymore and need to bandwagon to the next hot male topic