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Was he right?

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Was he right?
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About what?
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>>78143121
Why have one huge woman when you could have multiple, smaller ones?
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>>78143256
If you have a fetish for tall women then one is obviously better than none.
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We Need to Talk basically confirmed he was
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>>78143098
he looks likea tumblr character.
What cartoon he is from?
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How did he lost his tip of his nose?
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>>78143651
Gavin Galaxy
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In a way, yes. Greg had a chance. A shot to make a name for himself. He had nothing, and no one. He had nowhere to go but up, and Marty could have taken him there.

Look at him now. He lives in a van, his wife is dead, and he doesn't even have custody of his only son. If he made it big as a performer with Marty, he could have had so much more.

Marty knows that love is like a weight that grounds your dreams, and he tried to warn Greg about it. Marty was right about it all, and is painted as a villain. It's unfair really.
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>>78143651
>He looks like a tumblr character

What?
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Kek
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>>78144022
I hope all this gets addressed in a future episode.
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>>78143098
he was the best

man i hope he's in another episode!
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100% right.
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>>78145868
I hope he shows up and teams up with Kevin to seduce the gems.
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>>78144022
>He lives in a van
Of his own vocation
>his wife is dead
True, but hey, it was fun while it lasted.
>and he doesn't even have custody of his only son.
Greg has complete custody of Steven, Steven only lives with the gems to learn how to control his gem.
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>>78147034
This. Money isn't everything in this world.
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>>78143098
Well given that Steven is the key to saving the world, no.
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>>78143098

Greg got to bang an alien. Greg got to bang a giant, hot alien.

Greg can go to anyone. Any human on earth, the wealthiest mogul, the most famous, the most accomplished artist, whoever, survey their accomplishments and ask, "Yes, but have you ever banged an alien?". And in that moment, whatever their outward appearance, in their secret soul, they will know. "No, I have not banged an alien. All my works are as ashes in my mouth".

No he was not right is the point I'm getting at.
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He was clearly a parasite promising Greg fame and fortune he was never going to get.

With that in mind Greg basically left with a van to live in a beach town as presumably a bum until getting a car wash so he could potentially bang a giant woman.
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>>78147172
Believe in Steven, man.
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>>78144022
>Marty was right about it all, and is painted as a villain. It's unfair really.
I don't think he was painted as a villain, persay. He was just an asshole character who's purpose was to teach children that sometimes it's best to let volatile people go.
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>>78147544
Who was volatile, him or Greg?
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>>78147641
Marty.
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>Steven doesn't really like any of the fusions
>instead, he likes several different smaller gems and humans

Marty's influence has already taken hold
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Does Greg own It's a Wash?

Why doesn't he just sleep in the office of the carwash?
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>>78143098
is that the guy from theres a man in the woods?
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>>78147751
He likes his van.
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>>78144022

So? He has son that he loves and that he's free to spend plenty of time with, he's a member of a close-knit seaside community that he enjoys being a part of, and he earns enough money to meet all his needs.

You don't need to be rich or famous to be happy. Greg's absolutely happy where he is.
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>>78147751

"Let me crash my Car Wash into your heart" doesn't flow as well.
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>>78143651
That's ridiculous. If he was from tumblr, he would have shit all over his nose.
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>>78147544
>persay
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>>78144022
>Why be happy when you can be successful?
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>>78147111
>Money isn't everything in this world.
But the rest of the world would want you to think different
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>>78147741
Where? When? He was constantly nagging for Amethyst and Pearl to fuse so he could see Opal.
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>>78148044
Greg romanced a four thousand year old space god and is the progenitor of an entirely new master race. That's pretty good as far as success goes.
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>>78149390
>implying Connie wasn't the one who put it there
The thirst is real.
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>>78144022
>and he doesn't even have custody of his only son.
He actually has.

He has been rasing Steven up until a little before the first episode started.

It was decided Steven would live with the gem so he would learn magic. That's it.

Legally speaking, he still has custody and Steven live with the gem because he agree to.
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>>78143651
Ned Nebula
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>>78143256

two small waifus > one big waifu

Of course, with a fusion, you don't have to choose.

>>78143651

SJWven Tumblrverse

>>78144022

That fat fuck was always a hack, that's why only Rose the earthaboo ever showed to his concerts.
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>>78143651
Barney the dinosaur
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>>78149504
>Connie getting increasingly elaborate injuries as an excuse
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>>78147751
Maybe there aren't that many places there that are comfortable to sleep in?
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>>78147751
It doesn't look like the office is that big
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Nope
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>>78149522
Just curious but what would you do if Connie suddenly appeared in your house?
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>>78147395
>No, I have not banged an alien. All my works are as ashes in my mouth
pottery
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>>78149649
incredibly unchristian things
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>>78149649
I would shout "go back to syria"
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>>78147751
Same reason he doesn't live in the barn he own: Fiscal reason. His van being his place of residence, he has less taxes to pay on it.

O course, Greg could put on paper that he live in his van, yet actually install himself in his Car Wash office or his barn, but Greg is a man of his word. If he declare he lives in his van, he is going to live in his van.
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>>78147395
>this is the way that pedophiles or animal fuckers think
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>>78149649
make her wash her hands and take the poo to the loo
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>>78143651
Nah, he looks more like a facebook character to me.
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Which fusion out of the ones haven't made an appearance yet (Steven fusions included) would you like to see first?
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>>78149789
all of them
but that's not going to happen
amethyst and peri will fuse first
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>>78149557
>Oh hey steven, I'll be over in a little bit. I'm just gonna stop by McDonalds for some coffee.
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>>78149886
>not hot coffee
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>>78149637
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>>78149557
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>>78149911
I would have thought it would have been bigger.
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>>78143651
Gregory Galaxy
Quincy Quasar
Samuel Space
Solar System Sam
Local Cluster Carl
Nigel Nebula
Danny Dwarf
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>>78149911
>Irecognizethatbulge.jpg
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>>78150220
I didn't want to give it away so easily
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>>78147395
Beautiful, I remember this for the future.
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>>78144022
marty wasn't taking him fucking anywhere
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>>78147544
Greg's line about Marty being dead to him was pretty harsh, even if it was a joke.
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>>78149443
Oh wow.
You've just raised an interesting point - do the Gems have human rights on Earth? I mean, obviously it hasn't exactly been brought up, but it's something to think about
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>>78150586
Nobody cares about them being ayylmaos in the show. They get "rights" like anyone else does, in that they can do whatever they like so long as nobody calls the cops.
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>>78150586
The gem have got a presence since the dawn of humanity.

They existed before human rights was even a concept.
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This raises a question is Marty sucessful in Emprie city?
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>>78143098
Jesus Christ, look at that face! All he's missing is a fucking Hitler stache
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>>78149789
Center one is literally the temple. Probably the same size as the temple too
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Marty did nothing wrong.
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>>78150586
The temple is sovereign Crystal Gem territory. They are afforded the same rights as any visiting diplomat or ambassador.
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>>78144486
I don't think they're going to address one anon's interpretation of the bad guy's speech no.
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>character in Steven Universe that's meant to be hatable
>he's white, male, straight, and thin
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>>78150947
> visiting
The Temple was there before the colony of Delmarva was established. The Crystal Gems are indigent to the territory.

Beach City is the equivalent to an Indian reservation. Hell, we saw a totem-pole in Greg's storage locker.
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>>78149522
Greg clearly had potential as a musician. Has, even, should he chose to return to music when he's done raising his little rock jesus.
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>>78150984

A lot of white thin male are made to be likeable in Steven universe too,though, so it's not really noticeable.
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>>78149911
I've never seen that bulge before.
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>>78150984
Don't forget that he encourages Greg to go after his dream as opposed to fuck a giant landwhale

Yes goyim, you don't need to follow your passions, just fuck giant pig women and live in your van! Eat hot dog donuts with welfare checks!
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>>78144022
Marty was just trying to help his naive friend out. Sometimes you gotta be a villain, so the village can rise up to save itself.
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>>78148044
>being successful doesn't make you happy
I want poorfags to leave
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>>78151056
Yeah. Y'all motherfuckers need to realize that life isn't a ukelele cartoon

If you don't obtain succeess people will mock you and you'll be unhappy

There is no such thing as a comfy life. Sink or swim.
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>>78151056
Unsuccessful = unhappy.
Successful =/= happy anon.
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>>78151085
>Americans
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>>78151095
It's much better to have rich people's depression than poor people's depression

Rich people's depression involves taking anti depressants and looking for perspective

Poor people's depression involves getting violently stabbed on the street
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>>78151265
You shouldn't talk about things you have no knowledge or understanding of, anon.
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>>78151085
You think the main issue with lack of success is "being mocked"?

I don't think you should be giving life advice to anyone.
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>>78151659
Go write more Pearl fanfiction, sweetheart.

Most people in 4chan aren't below the poverty line. They'll probably never want for food or shelter, but they'll feel unfulfilled in a professional sense
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>>78151056
Given the fact that I was quoting someone, I'm not sure why you assumed I was speaking n general.

I didn't mean you can't be both successful and happy. I meant that Greg, should he have left Rose behind and gone on touring, may have become successful (although there's a much greater possibility he'd just stay a struggling musician), but he wouldn't have been happy.
Why did I leave this thread open all night.
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>>78143098
>>78143256

of course not.
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>>78151996
Actually, odds are good he'd be happier

Even if he didn't become a rockstar, he'd be able to keep doing what he loved

He might have fallen in love with another woman, one who didn't die.

There's billions of people in this world. You don't just fall in love with one
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>>78152084
>Even if he didn't become a rockstar, he'd be able to keep doing what he loved
He did still do what he loved. And probably moreso, since he didn't have a manager who tried to tell him what to play.
>He might have fallen in love with another woman, one who didn't die.
And, he would have never been able to spend the time with Rose that he did before she died.
Also I'm not sure how many other women can be comparable to Rose, anyway.
>There's billions of people in this world. You don't just fall in love with one
There are tons of people who fall in love, get married, and then never remarry should they get divorced, or should their spouse die. And what's more, this is a cartoon. True love is even more prevalent and important than it is in the real world.
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>>78143651
Sammy Sunshine
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>>78143651
Rick and Morty
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>>78151030
>Marty was just trying to take advantage of his naive acquaintance.

Marty wasn't even doing his end of the job when he was Greg's manager.

Plus he doesn't like giant women so he's a pleb, too.
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>>78143256
That was where he was the most wrong.
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>>78143256
Huge women are the best women.
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>>78151085
>There is no such thing as a comfy life.
Just cause you don't have one doesn't mean they don't exist.
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>>78149649
you know what the ancient Hawaiians used to say.
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>>78151016

B-b-b-but he lives on h-his own t-t-terms...

>>78151085

This. IRL a guy like Greg would probably be an alcoholic and a junkie, but everything is just peaches and cream because Stephen Tumblrverse is basically Undertale the Cartoon.
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>>78152568
Is that Ringo Starr?

It has suddenly occurred to me that I would love to see 60s-era Beatles guest starring a la Colbert.
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>>78143651
Otto Orbit
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>>78150586
Not like the government could force them to do anything.
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>>78147741
>Steven doesn't really like any of the fusions
Steven is obsessed with fusions though
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>>78151265
>Poor people's depression involves
nah poor people's depression involves just sadly wallowing in it.
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>>78149390
>four thousand year old
way older than that
Pearl was around to see humans as hunter gatherers walking the african savannah and Rose commissioned Pearl to be made
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>>78153266
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Well what I learned from 4chan today.
Is to follow your dreams and should that mean fucking a alien do that first.
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>>78151085
>If you don't obtain succeess people will mock you and you'll be unhappy
There's literally an episode where Greg becomes the town's "post-ironic teen object of mockery" and he could not have given any less of a shit.
He's a chill dude who likes to play guitar and spend time with his son, and things have only been getting better for him as the show goes on.
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This just in: nerds who spend all of their free time whining about cartoons don't believe that being happy with your life is possible, everyone pretends to be shocked
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>>78143098
He looks kind of like the guy from There's a Man in the Woods.
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>>78143098
>One gian woman
Vs.
>Many regular sized ones.

That's the debate Anon, with which many a fetish has struggled. The Giantess Vs. The Harem, which is best in life? To go roughly into that pelvis-shattering embrace of the ultimate snu-snu? Or to be drained body and soul through repeat performances? This is our struggle, and it is real.
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>>78143651
smash-it sammy
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>>78143098
my theory is that greg's story only sorta exaggerated him: it potrayed him as a level 5 douche while in reality he's only a level 3 jerk
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>>78144022
>>78144322
>>78143098
He did nuffin.

He was a straight A bowy.
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>>78154999
I feel the same way. He's the only character on the show treated as 100% unsympathetic. Plus he has shark teeth.
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>>78143098
>>78143566
>>78144022
>>78146871
>>78147544
Doesn't matter if he was ever right about anything. Marty fucked Vedalia and abandoned her with a kid, in case you were wondering the real reason Greg said "He's dead to me now."
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I'm sorry, Greg.
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>>78143651
[spoiller]Ed Edd n Eddy[/spoiler]
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>>78154926
To be honest, sexing up 4-7 women on a daily basis sounds awfully difficult. I would really get tired of that in a month or two.

And all the arguments between the harem bitches would give me a headache. Big woman please.
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>>78149556
mrs goodra does not count
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>>78155169
Your dead to me Marty
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>>78155172
ctrl+s is your friend anon
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So why the fuck is he so attractive? It's kinda unfair to the other characters who are trying their best
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>>78155865
Is it the teeth?
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>>78156082
I think it's the rugged facial structure. He looks like a young Danny Elfman
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>>78155169
You're DEAD to me, Marty!

DEAD, do you hear?!

DEEEEEAAAD!!
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>>78155230
As someone with both fetishes (I don't know how either, I blame the internet), I find the concept of harems more appealing, but only from a distance. Actually having to deal with that many women is the antithesis of boner - inducing. At the same time, the inevitable conclusion of a giantess relationship, even at a reasonable scale, is terrifyingly arousing... Or arousingly terrifying.
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>>78156207
Oh my god... its all coming together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA
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>>78143098
He look like a shark :3
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>>78149504
fucking stupid, not only could they do the juice box thing again, but since it healed her eyes you don't even need to apply the spit to the wounded area
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He reminds me a lot of this guy. Wouldn't be surprised though, current cn staff just love shoving in evangelion and akira references
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You can settle down with an ancient woman who will probably use you as a boy-toy until you die or she feels bad and abandons you in some podunk town

or you can keep playing music and working on your music and building your name with me in your van and see how far your hard work can take us

>Greg
>hard work
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>>78156445
>greg
>having a brain
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>>78156251
>Giantess Harem

>tinysweatyman.png
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>>78156390
That's not lewd at all!
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>>78156307
Did he really say that? Holy shit
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>>78149649
>unknown darky breaks into my house

scream what else
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>>78149649
Kill her
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>>78156406
With Sugar being a huge animu fan I'd say it's more than likely
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>>78143651
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>>78149649
ask her what her parents number is so I can call them and have her returned to her home.
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>>78156528
There's has to be at least one person on the writing staff who's a sizefag.

>Entire musical number about wanting to see a giant woman
>"Oh, here we go. How big was she?"
>Passions of Xanxor
>"I could literally squish you right now! It would not be hard."
And most damningly:
>"You like that, little man?"
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>>78143651
He's right, you know.
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>>78149649
"You don't have to tell me what happened, but you do have to eat this."
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>>78156689
It's certainly a recurring theme.
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>You sign in a little known rock star from basically nowhere.
>You set up his gigs and help him get merchandise.
>You take most of the money but that's because he's hardly pulling in any crowds or selling any merchandise because he keeps giving freebies to giant women who make his dick twitch.
>Don't drop him as a client though because you can tell he'll be big someday.
>He goes off on his own in some small town beach city to see some chicks. Whatever man. That's rock life.
>When it's time to go he starts thinking with his dick and starts thinking maybe he should stay in shit city so he can bang some giant chick.
>Have to remind him that he needs to focus on his fucking career and that there's PLENTY of women out there in the rockstar life and that he'll probably be rolling in poon and that he needs to just make some damn money.
>He goes aggro, kicks you out of the van and goes back to shit city, never getting his album off of the ground and living there for the rest of his life.
You could've been a star, Greg.
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>>78156251
What if you had a harem of amazons?
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>>78156689
Well let's not forget that Steven is based off Rebecca's li'l brother and that she's stated the gems are based off her
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>>78156689
I bless them for it.
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>>78156973
Yeah, suddenly I'm not turned on anymore. No, I will not give sugar.
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>>78143098
We'll find out just how right he could have been in Drop Beat Dad surely. It'll probably be about him coming back to offer a deal either to his bastard son Sour Cream or to Steven.

>>78156912
Marty most likely didn't even give up on Greg back then despite everything considering he stuck around long enough to meet Amethyst with Vidalia.
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>>78156307
I can only hear Weird Science when gems are fusing now
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>>78157004
Nah it's gonna be another flashback episode. Most likely where Greg is doing fine with Rose but at the same time starving to death so he struggles between
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>>78156689
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>>78157053
But if it was a flashback then it wouldn't be called "Dad" since he wasn't one yet.
Besides, I think the only other flashback episode we're going to be getting this season is Greg the Babysitter and involve Greg and the gems watching Sour Cream for Vidalia
>Look at this guy! I used to be bigger than him!
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>>78156689
Do you guys think the storyboarders have porn stashed away of there characters
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Has there been any word as to when the hiatus is over?
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>>78157154
>But if it was a flashback then it wouldn't be called "Dad" since he wasn't one yet

Are you pulling my leg right now. Are you forgetting how these past few flashback episodes start.
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>>78157209
The only word so far, and that is +3 months, is that it will return in mid Jan at the latest
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>>78157190
Literally all of them.
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>>78157190
>>78157237

It's like the Rugrats SB all over again.
I'm not complaining
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>>78157190
Oh, the crew are very transparent about the fact that they draw lewds. Ian was like "You guys are worried your stuff is too sexual? You should see some of the shit we draw"
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>>78157260
>"You guys are worried your stuff is too sexual? You should see some of the shit we draw"
Does anyone have the screencap of ian's twitter after he said that rose created a womb
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>>78149789
Anything with Peridot.
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>>78147756
>>78154869
I'd never heard of that before.
It was pretty good. Thanks.
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>>78157212
>Story for Steven
>It was a story about the past
>We Need To Talk
>It started with Greg wanting to talk to the kids, but the flashback itself was also about needing to talk

The flashback tied to the episode titles both times, so it'd make more sense for Greg the Babysitter to be a flashback of greg babysitting than for Drop Beat Dad to be a flashback of greg struggling long before being a dad.
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>>78157004
isn't it implied that Marty hung out more regularly in beach city though since Amethyst knew enough about him to be able to shapeshift into him?
Looks like he didn't get too far either without Greg to leech off of.
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>>78153432
I think it's the guy from The Large Explosion Conjecture
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>>78149637
Why do all these no-skirt edits have her shield BEHIND her leg for no reason?
>Oh look, I have this impenetrable shield, I'll just protect it with my leg.
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>>78157190
Maybe
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>>78157411
How long Marty stuck around is an interesting question.
Clearly he stayed with Vidalia for a period of time.
But then we get into things like "did he stay when Sour Cream was born?"
On the one hand, it doesn't seem like he's the kinda guy that would have.
But then again, Amethyst stopped hanging with Vidalia most likely around Steven's birth, which would have been years after Sour Cream was born. Yet Amethyst assumed Vidalia was still "trying to find Marty" when they stopped.
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>>78147751
He may run a modestly successful small business, but he's still a bit of a man-child. Dude still wants to live the starving artist lifestyle.
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>>78157559
is this a crop?
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>>78157383
Hmm. You're right.
Maybe it's about Marty finally returning, maybe to fix things up with Vidalia. Then we'll see the parallelism with their relationship.
Also I think Greg the Babysitter is about Greg trying to take care of baby Steven but struggling with it.
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>>78154551
Obviously. It's as close as you'll ever get to fucking the sky.
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>>78157605
yep
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>>78157559
Quick question if Rose is so big How is Greg all the way up there?
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>>78157688
Rose is about to threw Greg over the fence
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>>78157688
He is standing on an amp.
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>>78143098
No, he was a pedophile who fucked a kid and then ditched her when he got her knocked up.
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>>78157628
I'd much rather it be about Marty's relationship with Sour Cream than Vidalia. Especially since Sour Cream is an aspiring DJ and Marty is in the music business. They could get into some really deep shit if they wanted with them.

And you don't babysit your own baby. He'd have to be watching someone else. Either it's a flashback and he's watching Sour Cream/the cool kids or he's watching Peridot for some reason.
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>>78157688
shape-shifting
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>>78158030
>Vidalia
>a Kid
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>>78158030
I wonder about that. Did Marty run back and then ditch when Vidalia learned he knocked her up or did he just never come back to Beach City after Greg threw him out?
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>>78158121
He didn't know Vidalia was pregnant and figured she'd do without him for a while.
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>>78158121
I think he was banging Vidalia before greg's concert.
Then left prior to Greg's flashback
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>>78158121
>When mom was young she was a wild dane
>Now she's an older mom
Is Sourcream Marty's son
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>>78158121
He definately came back.
Amethyst knew about him from hanging out with Vidalia and even assumed she was still trying to contact him after they stopped hanging out.
He could have potentially been there for over a year honestly, since there's likely a good set of years between Story for Steven and when Steven was born.
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>>78158193
uh.

Yeah.
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>>78158193
Maybe?
I don't see any similarities
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>>78158150
>>78158148
Marty probably doesn't even know about Sour Cream. The only thing he did wrong was not use protection tbqh
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>>78158082

At the time she was like, 16.

>>78158076
>Youre fucking rose when all of a sudden she shapeshifts into a small form and squeezes down on your dick

>>78158121
He might have come back since Amethyst knows what he looks like and who he is, but Greg might have just told her.
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>>78158222
>16
>pedophile
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I WANNA BANG MARTY
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>>78158211
>not using protection is wrong

Greg would disagree
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>>78158251

>fucks underaged girls
>IM NOT A PEDO I SWEAR
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Did greg get Marty's sloppy seconds?
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>>78158251
Is this from W101?
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>>78158277
>16
>Underage
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>>78158194
There's probably a good 20-25 years between those two events, which is pretty crazy to think about with all the stuff that could have happened in between and that Pearl was probably super salty the whole time
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>>78158222
>>78158251
>vidalia was 16
>greg was 20 something
>marty was calling greg a "kid" and looked just generally older

Marty is probably like 50-60, holy shit
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>>78158277
>underage
Age of consent in Delaware is 16.

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/delaware-age-of-consent-lawyers.html

You can you stop with this stupid shit now?
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>>78158312
>and looked just generally older

That's just the stereotype of the manager looking older because he's tired.
Which is true.
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>>78157565
I think Marty probably stuck around until Sour Cream was born, and Amy stopped hanging with Vidalia shortly afterwards because she was too busy with mom stuff to play with her.
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The staff for this show is really weird.
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>>78158277
ignorant faggot
you're mixing up underage with below +12 which is the case for pedophiles
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>>78143651
Robert Re-Entry
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>>78158336
>>78158301

Marty was obviously over 30, and by Delaware law that means he raped her. He raped Vidalia. Especially since he probably lied to her about being a famous manager.
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>>78158336
Can you*
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>>78158417
There's also that screencap of Sugar's AMA where she says "I really like Greg's VA....I wanna explore Greg's past....... a lot..."
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>>78158417
Yea
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>>78158222
>At the time she was like, 16.
Where'd you get that number from?

Also 16 is legal in over half the US.
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>>78158417
Have you never been constipated and wanted to tell the world? Are you not based like Zuke?
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>>78158448
>Marty was obviously over 30, and by Delaware law that means he raped her. He raped Vidalia. Especially since he probably lied to her about being a famous manager.
who let tumblr in here
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>>78158448
No, Marty looked like he was in his mid to late 20s.
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>>78158448
Okay, now you've made your bait obvious.
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>>78158485
>>78158500
In fact, Delaware considers having sex with someone under 16 rape. Having sex with someone under 18, if the offender is over 30, is also considered rape.

Compared to some other states, the penalties for violating Delaware’s age of consent laws are very harsh. A “typical” statutory rape offense could carry a prison sentence of 10 years.

- See more at: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/delaware-age-of-consent-lawyers.html#sthash.xXbIASSs.dpuf
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>>78158496
With those face wrinkles?
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>>78158529
You pulled Vidalia's age out of your ass, though.
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>>78158529
Oh come off it, besides Vidalia looks about 18 so your bait isn't really working out.
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>>78158529
>16 year old consents
>30 year old consents
>Oh its rape because there a 14 year gap of the ages
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Will they fuse this season?
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>>78158448
Marty was most likely not older than 25. In all likenes he was just as old as Greg.
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>>78158529
YOU FUCKING IDIOT
We are talking about estimates here, no one knows for sure how old they are.
Now fuck off and stop shitting up this thread with your half assed bait
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>>78158540
Also, another thing, show me where it says Vidalia was 16. You still haven't proven that yet.
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>>78158446
Knowing what's it parodying, I can't help but cringe a little.
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>>78158618
I'm not that anon, anon.
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>>78158659
The argument was whether Marty should go to jail or not. I'm still waiting for my proof.
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How old was Greg during the flashback episode and the VH tape
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>>78158601
Marty is definitely older than 25 with those wrinkles, and substantially older than Greg.

Greg could be anywhere from 18-30. Marty is at least 30 and probably closer to 40 or above. Vidalia looks to be about the same age as Greg.
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>>78158668
He shouldn't he made it out like a bandit.
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>>78158673
He said he dropped out of community college so probably 19 or 20
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>>78158668
Proof of what?

All I said was that Marty definitely looks over 30. I never said anything about how old Vidalia was, other than the fact that one anon pulled the number 16 from literally nowhere.
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>>78158303
What? No, not at all. There's most likely around 20 years between the modern and the flashbacks, not between them and steven's birth.
Greg just aged really poorly.
>Story for Steven
>Marty stuck around 1-2 years most likely, until >>78158400 and sour cream was born
>5 or so years go by (considering Sour Cream is 16 years old at least as he can drive and assuming Steven is less than 12)
>Steven born
>No age for Steven given, but he seems less than 12 years old or so.
Considering the show is set modern day (iphones and all that), that'd put Story for Steven around 1995.
early to mid 90s would fit pretty well. Greg's stuff was on CDs, but he they still had vhs stuff. The gems' styles were a bit more late 80s, but they could easily have just been behind the times.
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>>78158673
Approx 27-31 count to that Steven's age and you have Greg's age now.
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>>78158713
Then fucking read what we're talking about before you jump into the argument, moron.
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>>78158686
Keep pulling numbers out of your ass. I've seen 40 year olds with no wrinkles and 25 years with a few from stress you dipshit.
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>>78158686
>Marty is definitely older than 25 with those wrinkles, and substantially older than Greg.
you'd be surpised how fast some people lose their prime once they pass their 20. especially if they do stressful job like manager.

If Greg and marty were friends and Greg was just starting, they most likely met at that community college Greg left at some point.
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>>78158686
There's still the possibility of some unreliable narrator with how old Marty looked.

Besides, Greg was a college dropout, so likely under 21 years old. Marty in the pictures looks older, but not THAT much older, so I'd say he's under 30.
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>>78158589
16 year olds can't even vote, what makes you think they're intelligent enough to consent? You do know why statutory exists, right?
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>>78158722
>There's most likely around 20 years between the modern and the flashbacks
There is very precisely one unit of Sour Cream between flashback and present time. And Sour Cream is still a teenager.
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>>78158775
>what makes you think they're intelligent enough to consent?
There not fucking 5 year old children.
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>>78157688
She is in the middle of using the Stone Cold Stunner on Greg.
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>>78158734
I've been reading the whole thread. You just assumed I was the one who claimed she was 16.
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>>78158775
So wait do you think 16 year olds are retard or something?
I've heard a bunch of 16 year old fuck 25 or 34 year old.
Your a fucking retarded
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>>78158800
Listen buddy, it's real creepy that you want to fuck 16 year olds.
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>>78158794
If Sour Scream is 16 and the show is set in 2015, the Rose and Greg met in 1999, when CDs were still a thing.
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>>78158794
Not necessarily.
Marty most likely stuck around after the events of Story for Steven.
At least long enough to meet Amethyst.
Like I said, I could see him staying around 1 year or so before bolting. Sour Cream is 16 at least, possibly even up to 18.
So sorry, around 19 years between.
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>>78158853
Who doesn't want to fuck a 16 year old
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>>78158746
Marty doesn't have a few. He has a lot. More than anyone else in the series, in fact.
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>>78158838
In case you haven't noticed, it doesn't who you are, anonymous. We were arguing about it before you jumped in. There's no need to care about who you are.
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>>78158872
>Not necessarily.
Yes necessary
Greg and Marty never saw each other again.

Sour Cream was conceived in Greg's van the night he met Rose Quartz.
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>>78158593
I doubt it, since the Cluster and Malachite are not leaving any time for fusion studies.
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>>78158884
It's still annoying when someone accuses you of making a claim you never did.
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>>78154926
What about one very strong shortstack?
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Question.
Is it alright if a 16 boy fucks a 30 year old girl
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>>78158872
>At least long enough to meet Amethyst.
Greg had a picture of him. And vidalia can paint.
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>>78158927
No. But she's more likely to get away with it.
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Oh wow, I just made him 15 years old now!
The wrinkles are just to add a tired look on his face, just like all managers are supposed to have.
He probs smokes a lot which contributed to the stern look.
Besides his shitty predisposition makes him like an old grumpy man.
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>>78158927
Yes males can't be raped
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>>78158927
Both ways are fine, it's not my fault amerikeks have the age of consent so high.
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>>78158867
I don't necessarily think it's set in 2015. It could easily be set in 2010, and that's what I've always assumed. Also, because it's an alt reality, their cultural 80s could have shifted a few years in relation to ours.
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I hope there's an episode where Steven meets him and he's actually nice and cool in contrast to how his dad remembers him. Bonus points if it shows a flashback where Greg's the lovestruck idiot who's neglects duties and hard work.

The lesson for the episode would be: People see things happen differently and come to different conclusions about things that happened and that's okay.
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>>78158950
Is that a challenge?
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>>78158800
>There not fucking 5 year old children

I bet you want to tho
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>>78147433
Marty wasn't wrong, but Marty wasn't the one who'd get him there.

He'd have become an anchor around his neck by the time he started to be a known name. Though a real agent would have had the kind of lawyers who'd tear him apart, so he'd have been cast off easily enough.
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>>78158775
>age of consent in Europe on Wikipedia
>16 year olds
>Andorra, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Belgium, Finland, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Moldova, Netherlands, Northern Cyprus, Norway, Russia, Spain, Switzerland, Ukraine, United Kingdom

>15 year olds
>Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Greece, Iceland, Monaco, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden

>14 year olds
>Albania, Austria, Bulgaria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Estonia, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Macedonia, Montenegro, Portugal, San Marino, Serbia

>image
>blue is 16

Make of that what you will
Incoming opinions
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>>78159176
>14
I don't know but 14 is like a iffy number for me
>>
who cares about age of consent if girls are getting pregnant at ages below 12 now, and at will
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What if Vidalia inspired Rose to get pregnant?
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>>78158905
There's no evidence for any of that.
All we know is that Greg considers Marty dead to him. Last we saw he kicked him out on the edge of Beach City.

Now, which do you think this faggot would do:
>Abandon all that he's put into this and walk/hitchhike all the way to Empire City
>Go "that son of a bitch" and walk back to the nearby town, get a place to stay (possibly with Vidalia depending on how old/independant she was, otherwise a hotel), and then try to talk some sense into starchild for some time/wait for him to get over his fling
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>>78159574
I'm sure Rose knew about pregnancy before Vidalia even existed.
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>>78159574
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>>78159574
That's my hope for Greg the Babysitter
>Open with some interaction between Steven and Sour Cream
>Greg sees them and mentions how much Sour Cream has grown
>Goes into a story about when Sour Cream was little and Vidalia had Greg and the gems babysit him while she went off to fish up a father for her baby
>Antics as child Sour Cream runs about the temple (since the house wasn't there yet) and the Gems not knowing what to do
>Rose and Greg finally work together and get the child to calm down
>Rose realizes she wants one of her own
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>>78159642

Do you not understand what the word "inspired" means?
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>>78159045

>guy who ditches a girl he knocked up and saw women as objects
>nice
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>>78159574
it's just a silly what if
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>>78158924
>Every day on 4chan, I learn of a new fetish I was unaware of.
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>>78159776
I do, but I highly doubt it considering how old Rose is.
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>>78149789
steventhyst
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>>78143098
He was.

Greg lucked out that his crush was essentially SpaceLionJesus, or perhaps SpaceLionMary if steven is Gem Jesus.

If Greg had crushed on any plain ol' tall human woman and forfeit his dreams for her, he would have been a lower-class citizen with an extremely unremarkable life and a /maybe/ happy family, since Rose had ulterior motives to stay with Greg; given she's been around for centuries, it's more likely her selection of Greg to bear a child with was more strategic than the show implies.

People assume you can't be successful /and/ happy. Greg could have had all the time in the world to settle down /after/ he was rich and famous if he so desired.

Also yeah he was kind of a dick for leaving Vidalia with a kid, but Rose left Greg with Steven.

Yeah I know, Rose left because she had to to manifest Steven into the world or w/e. Point is, she's not there.

Nobody would complain if Marty left a secret mansion full of valuable shit for Vidalia and their kid, or if he contracted Blackwater Security to keep an eye on his family and help raise the little one.

Marty did nothing wrong, at least not anything more wrong than Rose, who literally supported a civil war among her people.
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>>78159796
You can be nice and have polarizing views.
If a girl didn't feel ready for a kid and had an abortion despite the father wanting it, people wouldn't say she's disqualified from ever being nice.
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>>78159796
Remember that the episode is from Greg's perspective.
Greg, who said Marty was dead to him. Think about that.
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>>78156666
nice trips
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>>78161657
>trips
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>>78161460

Generally speaking, seeing any chunk of human beings as objects precludes you from being a very nice person until you change that point of view. The knocking-up-and-ditching thing does not.
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Remove the wrinkles and Marty would be amazing
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>>78159045
I wanna see this, too. Marty's the only character in the show to have been portrayed as 100% a dick, and he has shark teeth for God's sake.
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>>78162870
Keep in mind the version of Marty we're shown is being described by Greg. He may have not actually said anything about seeing women as objects.
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>>78143098
>abandoning your career for someone you just met even after being told can have even more vapid hook ups in the future just because theyre the only one who came to your show and also happen to be pretty

Yeah, pretty much.
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>>78157259
whats the context of this?
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>>78143651
eugene universe
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>>78144022
>his wife is dead but also his son
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>>78143098
We Need to Talk basically did confirm that Marty was right. Greg rushed into a relationship with a girl he barely even knew and blew a chance at success. Granted it turned out okay and he did get to snu snu and alien amazon, but it could have gone south and Greg would have been stuck in some shitty beach town.

He was kind of a dick about it, but he was right.
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>>78164511
>blew a chance at success
What success? Nobody showed up except for Rose.
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>>78156390
Shut up, Jordan
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>>78156689
That makes giantesses and feet. What else is there? I dunno if fusion counts as absorption or not.
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>>78156912
Underrated post. Geez, Greg was such an unappreciative little shit. Fuck romance.
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>>78164300
the context of what m8
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>>78164569
I n a shit beach town with like 12 regular residents. If he stuck with it he could have been something, it's not like he didn't have talent.
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Would you throw your career through the window to spend your time with a giant alien rock that loves you?
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>>78164300
Some of the storyboarders for rugrats made fake story boards and passed them around to each other. They eventually got pretty crude. They were destroyed when someone at Nick got wind of them. There's a single one that still floats around from time to time where Stu calls Angelica a cunt and Tommy looks like he's having a stroke.
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>>78165470
Considering I don't have one and I'm a NEET. Yes, yes I would assuming of course this giant alien rock would shapeshift a vagina or anus, or at the very least secrete some saliva and give me a blowjob now and again.
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>>78143651
john jupiter
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>>78165489
You're so forceful Uncle Stu!
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Marty seems like a crude man. Someone who knows potential when he sees it.

He's still an ass, but I'm sure he wouldn't have taken a college dropout on a country wide rockstar tour unless he thought he'd make some dosh from it.
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>>781477411
Who could NOT like sardonyx? She waay too fun
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>>78156689
Its rebecca sugar, shes a shotacon. That implies shes a size cunt too
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>>78156973
Really? With all those motherhood themes and symbolisms i thought she had Mommy issues
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>>78149789
Id like to see steven and greg combine, thatd be the most pathetically hilarious combo
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>>78166425
Rose is the mother. The gems are the big sisters.
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>>78166425
>she had Mommy issues

She does. Terribly.
The absent mother subtheme is offputting
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>>78165538
Why a vagina or anus? You could literally sculpt the hole you want and she could make it. Call up fleshlight and tell them you have a fun project for them
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>>78166764
>absent mother subtheme is offputting
How so?
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>>78166831
>Why a vagina and anus
Because they feel good and I don't need a bunch of crazy shit to bully my dick to feel good.
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>>78166856
The only present mothers in this show are Vidalia, Barbara and Dr. Maheswaran.
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>>78166907
>I don't need a bunch of crazy shit to bully my dick to feel good.

/tg/ and /d/ are very disappointed in you, anon.
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>>78167037
I'm a /d/eviant and a fa/tg/uy, but I don't need a spiral vortex flesh vacuum with tentacles to enjoy a warm and wet flesh hole.

Now, monster girls, brown elves, Kemonomimi, and all that are great, but I don't -need- special vaginas.

Sage for way off topic shit.
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>>78166934
I'm not arguing that there aren't absent mothers. what about it is offputting?
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>>78166934
That's only one fewer than the number of present fathers.
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>>78167239
>>78167485
It's part of the show's liberal propaganda. Brainwashing kids into thinking that degenerate family setups like single parents or homosexuals are okay.
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>>78167239
>>78167485
>>78166934
>>78166856
>>78166764

well duh she's obviously inserting her own issues on the series
all the acceptance bullcrap she and her sb try push into every episode should be a dead giveaway
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>>78167781
I'd argue but I don't really have a dad.
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>>78167826
What issues?

All the series seems to consistently say is "Be nice to everyone".
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>>78157688
I assume she's on the floor with her back arched for that pic. It's not like she needs to care about her flexibility.
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>>78167959
boy are you dense
all her rejection issues she's been having since she was a teen and had all that stash of eene porn and her self insert in the iz universe
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>>78168151
that shit is standard for artists, the internet just made normal people like yourself aware of it
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>>78168151
I'm not seeing those in the show.
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>>78158638

Oh shit, it's from Fresh Prince isn't it.
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>>78157688

She's sitting/kneeling and he's standing behind her.
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>>78168213
>normal people like yourself
hahaha go fuck yourself
you're dodging the issue even, she has stated she tries to push all this equality and fair treatment to everybody agenda because she's suffered from rejection
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>>78168216
Yeah, you're not seeing kid porn on the series.
Of course you aren't
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>>78165489
>There's a single one that still floats around from time to time where Stu calls Angelica a cunt

He also implies that he's going to fuck her.
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>>78143651
Carlos Cosmos
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>>78165489
you stupid bitch, Fred Flinstone's home!
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>>78168284
I don't see what you're so angry about pal

It's perfectly reasonably to try to fix a problem that has affected you

and I don't think "Don't be a dick" has much of a political charge to it
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>>78168305
I mean I don't see how she's projecting any personal issues onto the show.
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>>78160972
I don't think it's a fair comparison between Rose and Marty
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>>78168383
except I'm not angry at all, stupid fuck
you're being dense on purpose
I don't have the patience to deal with you trying to dodge the subject
ta-ta
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>>78168456
Then you're blind.
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>>78168526
Then enlighten me.

>>78168383
As this anon said, "Be nice to people" is a VERY broad message, and literally everyone has experienced people being not nice to them.
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>>78168526
It seems like you're the only person seeing things that aren't there, Mr "I-know-Sugar-personally"
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>>78143098
>have a threesome over fucking a fatty
Obviously
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>>78168503
>except i'm not angry, insult

also the fact that you try to walk away means you're not baiting, which is sad
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>>78168503
>I'm not angry
>insult
>I lost my patience
Mind your blood pressure.
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>>78168600
>also the fact that you try to walk away

Are you retarded?
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>>78168572
>Mr "I-know-Sugar-personally"

Did you not visit her AMA over at reddit?
Or checked her old livejournal? Or the screencaps from her IZ blog?
Fucking idiot, I'm not making shit up
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>>78168666
Nobody argued that the EENE porn and IZ shit existed.

What was argued was the claim that she was projecting personal issues into the show.
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>>78168666
>>78168713
I haven't read the Zim shit, but how would that imply that Sugar is "troubled"? A shit-ton of young teenage girls liked Invader Zim.
>>
Wait that's not Rick

this isn't a rick and morty thread
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>>78168633
>>78168600

Your samefagging is obvious.
Just as much as your bait.
>>
You guys can't be getting baited this easily right? This is why /co/ hates us.
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>>78168713
>>78168784

That's not the point at all. Do you know how to read?
Watch the interviews she's given. Do your own research, it's not hard to find.
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>>78168846
I agree that's probably a samefag, but how the fuck is it bait?
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>>78168876
>This is why /co/ hates us.
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>>78168890
What the fuck IS your point, then?
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>>78168918
>What the fuck IS your point, then?

you can't be this dense.
looks like I fell for the bait
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>>78168876
Nothing to discuss. Steven Universe isn't producing enough content, so naturally we get flooded with dumbasses who can't ignore.

With that being said, Lapis a shit.
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>>78169015
I'm serious. That she drew EENE porn and IZ fanart, which everyone already knows?

That she's somehow projecting her personal issues into the show, which somehow interprets "Be nice to people" as personal and not universal?

What?
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>>78169158
Anon. I'm pretty sure you're being baited. Or trolled. Or the other anon is being a contrarian. Regardless you shouldn't keep indulging them with replies.
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>>78168284
>treat everyone nicely
>everyone is created equal
>an agenda


Boy I sure do hate the New Testament, don't you? All that SJW shit is sickening.
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>>78143256
Ugh, women are people anon.
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>Everybody in the show is nice, really nice.
>There isn't confrontation at all. besides the token fights against the feral gem monsters.
>The good people always win.
>The "bad" or "jerk" people are always portrayed as the designated butt-monkey (i.e: Lars, Peridot).
>Obviously, the "good ones" always win and the "bad ones" are always defeated and humiliated with passive-aggressive actions or comments.
>Subtle smugness everywhere.

Man this show feels very forced and uncanny. it's not bad, but It causes me a very strange feeling.

pic unrelated
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>>78170157
>Obviously, the "good ones" always win and the "bad ones" are always defeated and humiliated with passive-aggressive actions or comments.
You just described 99% of all fiction, anon.

In general, though, the show doesn't portray anyone as 100% unsympathetic (except Marty, which is why some people suspect there was some unreliable narrator shit going on), and pushes the idea that you should even be nice to people who aren't nice to you.

>There isn't confrontation at all. besides the token fights against the feral gem monsters.
Wait, what? Characters get into conflict all the time, hence all the crying.
>>
>>78159610
>>Abandon all that he's put into this and walk/hitchhike all the way to Empire City
This one most definitely.

Marty wanted to move on and Greg kicked him. there was no reason for him to stay, he simply found an other musician to manage.
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>>78143651
Pat Parsec
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>>78168370
best one
>>
Technically, he was much more likely to be right than wrong, but he did everything the wrong way.

Part of being a manager, whther or not you like it, is dealing with the heart of his artist. He should have recognised the sign that it was a serious crush, meowed him down, tell him how he should become a big star for him up until the crush pass away or if it didn't, tell him to only come back to beach city as a rockstar to impress her. Basic Manager stuff.

Greg tell it best: Marty said everything that needed to be said to make Greg leave. Marty was not a the best kind of manager in the end.
>>
Why is Rose so fucking fat
>>
>>78170937
She's not fat.
She's a quartz, she is all muscle.
>>
>>78143098
If we're talking about Greg's career, yes.

I think Greg remembered him as a bigger asshole than he really was and he really was more concerned about his future (at least professionally).

If Greg hadn't stayed with Rose he could have actually been successful, but Greg wanted Rose more than success, so that was the end of it. Greg just thinks he was the asshole who tried to keep him away from his love and exploit his talent.
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>>78143098
Nothing he said was factually incorrect but that doesn't mean he was right
Greg would make the same decision now knowing the outcome as he did back then.
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>>78170985
She's fat.
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>>78171231
She's a quartz.
She's supposed to look like pic related but the dress gives you a different perspective.
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>>78171315
Her gut is huge. She is fat.
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>>78171321
She was pregnant fool
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>>78171321
Fuck off with your stupid fetish, you whale loving faggot.
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>>78171404
Fat.
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>>78171415
>not canon
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>>78171436
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You know, we really should get our resident drawfags to make some beefy Rose. We can show it the the landwhales of Tumblr, and dance to their mournful melody.
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>>78171858
Making something for the sole reason of pissing off tumblr is kinda pathetic.
>>
>>78172291
So?
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>>78147395
Are you really acting like Amethyst has never fucked humans before?

I mean, I guess she's technically not an alien since she was born on Earth.

Also it's possible that Rose's last lover is still alive but pretty old.
>>
>>78171404
Before she met greg she was fat.
If she's not fat, greg is skinny.
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>>78143098
Did Rebecca Sugar just stop making this show or what?

Has cartoon network stopped holding people to schedules?
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>>78173049
Cartoon Network holds everyone to their own schedule that is decided by some demonic writing fed into a robot to figure out viewership.

or maybe that's Disney. I can't tell the difference anymore.
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>>78169737
you forgot the n't there.
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>>78143256

Depends on how small the women and how large the woman. I mean 3 women equaling 350 lbs is always going to be a better option than a landwhale but 5 women weighing in at 150 lbs is probably illegal in most states.
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>>78149504
I have the filthiest mind. I saw this on my phone and thought the implication was that she burned her tongue on Ruby. If you know what I mean.
>>
I want to cuddle with Jasper.
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>>78173876
no you don't
>>
>>78173938
Yes I do.
>>
>Since /trash/ was created, SU threads have been kept civil and mostly on topic.
Thank you Hiroshima
>>
>>78143507
>tall

I like tall women. I don't like when they are "tall horizontally". Rose wasn't just "tall", she was "huge".
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>>78156390
You miss the point
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>>78174075
>not liking tall beefy women
Top homo.
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>>78174145
>liking landwhale
>calling landwhale "beefy"
You can call them how you want, landwhale are and will always be disgusting.
>>
>>78174145
There's beefy. There's even water buffaloey, and then there's full on hippo and manatee.
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>>78174167
>>78174170
>le Rose is fat maymay
Get some new bait.
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>>78168314
>>78165489
>>78164300
>>78165772
>>78168375
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>>78165489
>They were destroyed when someone at Nick got wind of them.
That's a damn shame. To think of how many more keks could have been had. Why does Nick have to be such a bunch of c_u_cks?
>>
Had Rose been anything but what she was (I.e a regular tall lady and no a a super space lady), nobody would argue Marty was wrong. Greg just lucked out.
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>>78174170
>>78174075
Her waist was thinner than her hips and chest, and her stomach didn't portrude except when she was pregnant.
>>
>>78176430
Yeah, Rose wasn't fat.

She was big, but I could see her being Jaspermode beneath her clothing of choice.

Furthermore, her body is essentially a projection, so it's not very indicative of her combat capabilities anyway. She probably took on a big, soft appearance to appear less hostile to humans than her dagger-nosed servant girl and her super gauntlet boxing negro traveling partner.
>>
>>78158853
Please don't come to South America, India, Italy, Spain, France or practically 4/5rds of the world.
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>>78174385
We've already established that Marty was right, and that there were extraordinary circumstances that technically made him wrong.
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