>it's a "you can't save everyone" pep talk

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>>78123730
>It's a killing the killer make you like the killer speech

>>78123730
I like those, I wanna see one in WOY because the whole cliché is that Wander saves everyone and makes them happy

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>The main character completely ignores it while thinking about something trivial

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>It's a "this time I'm going to beat you to death" speech

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>>78124468

I'm still waiting for the "if you arrest the hostage-taker, you'll be just as bad!" speech.

>>78123730
Well you can't, even superman can't literally be everywhere at once barring one-off times where he becomes omnipotent for reasons.

>>78124468
Thats just retarded, kill one psycho who's going around killing loads of innocent people doesn't make you just as bad as him even if you consider killing of any sort of as a terrible sin.
You would have to kill alot more people for alot more meaningless reasons than that which you killed him to be as bad as the guy you took out.

>>78124468
Woulnt that depend on the sitsuation, like if the killers completely vulnerable and in no way able to harm anyone in any way, is it really nessecary to kill them?

>>78124791
Yeah, because then he can just come back to hurt or kill more people. Nice logic.

>Its a bad guys win episode

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>>78123730
>"You think this is a game?!"

>>78124876
With that logic you could kill anybody for any reason so they don't "do it again".

>>78124876
But, provided the fictional setting we're talking about has similar laws to our own, that actually is murder, that would be an correct example of were killing a murderer makes you a murderer.

If they are still a threat then it's self-defense or acting to save someone else's life, but unless the setting has the main character as a judge Dredd type then they are not in a position to sentence the villain on the spot lawfully.

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>>78125303
>"This isnt a comic book, Clark"

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>>78125303
>>78125708
>"Do you think this is some sort of Marvel® Comics Group™ Brand Comic Book, Captain Marvel?®™"

>>78124713
> If you take the hostage taker hostage, you'd be just as bad as him!

Sounds fun.

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>>78125746

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>>78125791
> on the PS4

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>>78123730
It's true. though, you can't save everyone. Convincing yourself otherwise will only lead you to emotional and mental anguish when you do you fail.

>>78124791
It's just not one of those things superhero stories should really be commenting on. They need recurring villians, but IRL that's not a thing that happens. So they apply IRL logic to a fantastical situation where it's entirely inappropriate. Yeah, IRL violent prisoners very, very rarely ever escape from custody and most of the "escapes" each year are nonviolent offenders who just plain walked out when they weren't allowed to and had to be picked back up by police.

But fantasy villains often have powers that prevent them from ever being meaningfully restrained, they're basically always armed and capable of killing and they won't put down that "gun". To let them live would be like letting an active shooter leave after police have him surrounded, either they lay down their gun (or permanently switch off their superpowers) and surrender, they kill themselves, or the police kill them. Rarely do these stories feature a way to forcibly and reliably disarm supervillains to take them into custody, and even if they do the bad guy breaks out of jail or stops being banished or manages to come back and continue killing.

And then there's the strange video game logic where some dude karate chops a bunch of heavily armed guards and gets the bad ending if he chooses to use guns because it was unnecessary the whole time when FISTS were an option. I mean, yeah, that works when you can reload saves forever, but it's not really worthwhile commentary on anything in the real world. It's the opposite problem, trying to apply fantasy logic to IRL situations.

>>78125896
WELL YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T PLAY ON PC

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>New one-off character
>Literally built from the ground up just to shoehorn in a moral or a lesson to another more prevalent character

>+50 points if it's a love interest
>+25 points if it's a rival
>+50 points if it's a rival who is better at whatever talent/hobby than the already established character
>+50 points if the lesson of the day is forgotten by the next episode

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>>78126225
Tim would be disappointed

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>>78126305
How many points for a superior rival who becomes a love interest?

>>78125972
let the manchild have his power fantasy

it's funnier that way when he fails

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>>78127549
And what if he doesn't fail?

>>78127703
a valid point because a lot of times that speech marks the moment a series stops being fun and starts getting preachy about stuff that has no real bearing on anything. it's not like it's really meaningful life advice for the vast majority of people who don't deal with life and death situations, and it's not like these superheroes are dealing with particularly stubborn friends making bad life decisions.

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>Character enters a dark place
>Lights a flashlight on fire

>>78123730

>Character gets "You can't save everyone" speech
>Every named character comes out alive

Fucking One Piece

>>78128226
Never gets old

>>78127155
What's his steam id?

>>78126305
>+

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>>78124712
>It's a "The villain goes completely insane and starts screaming at the hero when things go wrong/when he's close to succeeding" speech
>bonus if he gets completely, wordlessly rekt by the hero afterwards

>>78123730
>"you can't save everyone"
Someone hasn't watched enough chinese cartoons