Oh, TIME specifically? Then the first was just a bonus.
This is one I was thinking ok!
>Thats what he says every year
>It's called gang violence when minorities do it
It's funny because it's true, 60% of shootings with more than 8 victims (mass shootings) are committed by black people, but no one cares because that's normal
What's the only story everyone in the country hears about from Chicago?
Protip - it isn't the 60+ shootings in September, including an 11-month old boy and a pregnant mother.
Every motherfucking thread.
>Star Whores the Farce Awakens is premiering next week
>nobody is doing anything to stop it
KELLY WARNED YOU
DON'T SAY YOU WEREN'T WARNED
DON'T CALL IT A GRAVE, CALL IT THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE
How is The Onion so consistently funny after all these years? I wish I still had my world book they did that my ex took with her when she left me.
All I can remember is that Nicaragua's entire page was a guide to the first level in Contra.
That which is dead cannot die but rises again danker and stronger.
To be honest, I think the problem is that what the audience wanted out of Star Wars isn't what Lucas thought the series was about. It was supposed to be Buck Rodgers meets The Dambusters, not fucking LotR meets Dune. And I'm not talking about quality, just scale, tone, and depth. A New Hope is campy as fuck, and that's what makes it great. By the time Revenge of the Sith rolls around you just want to commit suicide from the immature "seriousness" and mindless action that the fans demanded.
Sure, Star Wars could have and should have grown into its big boy hard sci-fi pants, but that'd have meant shedding a lot of what the fanboys crave. Hard sci-fi is like eating your vegetables; and Star Wars is like eating sugar donuts for 40 years. The series doesn't need to become darker or more serious, just grounded and with real stakes. Like Empire Strikes Back and unlike Return of the Jedi.
I completely agree that it's fantasy. Fantasy set in space. Nothing wrong with that. In fact, that's a possibility of the fantasy genre long overlooked. Fuck I'd love a novel series based on Ray Bradbury's conception of Mars and Venus.
What I meant by "hard" though is all these explanations for everything that the fans WANT there to be. We bitch at Lucas for introducing midoclorians, but just look at Wookiepedia and tell me that it wasn't the kind of explanation the fans crave. There's an article for every patron of Mos Eisley, for fuck's sake, all with backstories and names. Before Disney, the canon was a complete mess and the fans sat in that mess happier than a pig in mud.
Fans got the prequels they deserve, and they'll get the sequel trilogy they deserve too, because they miss the point of what Star Wars is supposed to be. We get gritty war movies about wizards with laser swords who are also fighter pilots and have angst issues; not fun adventures in space.
I'll look up ebony sometimes when I'm feeling sick of other porn
But I just can't stand black faces.
They need to be so watered down you can barely call them black (Like Halle Berry) or it's just a boner killer
Unless you agree with what he's saying, in which case the people that disagree are socialist commie bastards who want to see American and its many great freedoms dashed on the shores of our folly.
I do. The dark skin tag feeds into my love of fantastic skin colors (think Asari, Twilek, and adult Midna)
But it seems like half of the animated browns are getting fucked by fat old men and that's ALSO a boner killer.
Especially the last one I saw with some brown delinquent getting railed by the GIGA NIGGA. A black guy so huge and so black he didn't look human.
Yeah, Japan can be really shit with the humiliation aspect of hentai. It's always either old men, fat men, old fat men, black men with mega cocks, or 24 men on 1 woman rape party.
It is definitely fanmade. You can tell since the style's off and it's too esoteric.
>their annual tradition
That's what does it for me.
Fucking hell these are retarded.
>owning dvds makes you sophisticated
>hurrdurr having AC will protect me from climate change!
>Polar bears kill children
>He thinks people will use books in the future and not know what a computer is
Hahahahaha this fucking retard.
What's so confusing about them? It's one man speaking the truth.
Everything Kelly says is right. There is not a single issue Kelly is not 100% right on.
Take your blinders off. It parodies the cartoonist for the Washington Post as well.
They're not allowed to talk about the suspects at all, they have really strict privacy laws.
The United States on the other hand, was born out of the English Revolution and the huge grievances people had against the Star Chamber so arrests are public information to discourage police "disappearances".
>I love how americans only started limiting the access of guns after a couple of darkies did a mass shooting.
The fuck are you talking about? We haven't limited any guns. There's still no chance in hell of that happening.
I wonder if a restaurant chain themed after the show would be succesful. Like, with normal people and not only hipsters like myself.
>Been here since 06 try again
Being a newfag is not about being here since 06 or two weeks ago.
It's about being able to comprehend 4chan's culture, speech, and humor, and being able to assimilate and behave like anon, instead of obviously showing your lack of understanding, and hence, being recognized as an outsider.
You have failed at this.
You're fucking newfag. Fuck off.
Depends on how good the coffee is, Zach.
That made for a great photo.
>what the fanboys wanted
This old tired trope? Really? Lucas is an idea man, not a good film maker. A New Hope was saved in editing and the best of the series wasn't directed by him at all.
Don't be a liar about this "what the fanboys wanted" nonsense. That's passing the buck, and you're adult enough to know it.
I would disagree that it was editing that saved A New Hope, but actually because Joseph Campbell held Lucas by the hand as he wrote the script and continually gave him advice.
Once Lucas was successful he didn't even try getting outside help when he wrote the prequels.
check this out
If health code violations weren't an issue I would love to see someone try to open up a restaurant were they are wearing shirts and underwears or a two piece bikini or a top with a thong or something like that.
Just something to stand out from the norm of making the tits the focal point.
>Once Lucas was successful he didn't even try getting outside help when he wrote the prequels.
There's a point in some of the behind the scenes footage where he says (paraphrased from memory) "I was fighting with an editor a bit on how to cut the films, so I had to let him go". He actively fights against outside help. So everybody just stands around silently while he acts like a retard, because if they point it out they'll get fired.
But how is the coffee at the other place?
Why are so many modern mass shooters 4chan users?
Eliot Rodger, that church guy, and recently Shiv Sharma in Oregon. What's the connection here?
It's more or less simple anon.
Kelly is not a real person, nor is he the alias of the author, he is a character himself.
The jokes are mostly mocking the newspaper's extremist, selfish, and often plain old retrograd views of some political comics authors.
In this case, the joke is the desensibilisation, which is a much too real subject. People tend to stop caring after the first wave of "poor whoever" pass, then comes the funny idea that they "care" but don't want to see it anymore because of "x" reason. Like for example not wanting to see anymore of those sad news.
Of course, that's over analyzing it a bit, it is mostly just how self righteous Kelly is supposed to be that's meant to be funny.
If you want you can say that even "Kelly" has its moments of clarity, in which his opinion don't go as far into the extremes as they tend to be, and that's because his comics themselves aren't a mockery, but rather he is.
There was also that guy who strangled someone and posted pics to /b/ and was arrested. I believe another person posted a dead person with their eyes cut out on /x/. I never heard what developed from that.
>SaigaMarine and BlackPowerRanger are also names used by people who posted regularly on the anonymous online forum 4chan.
Truly namefags are the worst. I bet they even used trips.
>But I don't get iiiiiiiiiiiiit
>But what's he trying to saaaaaaaaaaaayyy maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannn what's he trying to SSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY
Leave. It's not for you and that's fine now go away.
People looking down from Heaven is always the best part. I dare say I like it more than Crying Liberty.
I can't find Levar Burton.
Not to sound insensitive but it's pretty funny that 4 fucking /k/ommandos only managed to injure 5 people by shooting at them.
Not only are they asswipes, they're also incompetent.
>all this 4chan groups talk
What the fuck. Was that person too affraid to even visit the site and see how that doesn't make sense.
nah fuck you Kelly, you're wrong on this one
Europe has ben hit pretty hard too
>headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland
>“We are going to make the fire rise,” he said.
It was a bunch of retarded 20 somethings who had no goal, no plan, and had no idea what they even wanted. Bitching about words and labels is a fuckload easier than trying to develop and prove a viable economic theory.
It was certainly Lucas's fault as well, but don't act like the fans are completely innocent in all this. There was two decades of EU before the Prequels and that's the mess the fans encouraged and loved. It's not just that the Prequels are bad on a technical level, it's that the fans wanted the prequels to happen. They wanted to see the Clone Wars and Anakin's fall, even if that story isn't even worth making three movies about. Clone Wars the cartoon series was good, but that's because it benefited from being episodic and having a large diverse cast. A movie needs to be a singular story, not about an entire fucking time period in the lore. The result was Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith becoming a bunch of clones fighting a bunch of drones, and none of it fucking matters since they're all clones and robots. But it's "cool" and what the fanboys want.
The Force Awakens is going to be the same fucking thing. Only with X-Wings instead of clone troopers.
Normally I don't agree w/Kelly, nor do I like his cartoons, but how are we supposed to enjoy the holiday season when all we see on the news are stories of mass shootings and terrorist attacks? What happened to Peace on Earth, and Goodwill towards People, and all that stuff. It's hard to get into the holiday spirit when you're worried about getting killed by some crazy gunman or religious extremist.
Yeah, I knew it was dead when they went on tv to show off their direct democracy hand signals and turned down advice from actual civil rights leaders on how to capitalize on the attention they gained.
Essentially they set out to rile up protestors, were incredibly blatant about their plans, complete with messages, emails and videos. They harassed the protestors for days, then when things turned violent one night, one of them shot five protestors and got charged with a few felonies.
Yeah, after they tried their absolute damnedest to not mention they were Muslims who shot up a Christmas party (!!!) and that they were fucking immigrants who had "Extensive Federal Background Checks" but somehow didn't take a look at their fucking twitters to see they'd been palling around with ISIS.
Fuck you White Guilt faggots.
They were attacked by a bunch of nigs for being "white supremacists"...with a chinese guy. Punched and chased and then they shot at the group chasing them for 2 blocks in self-defense. If any of you wouldn't do the same, you deserve to have the shit stomped out of you, gorilla-style.
I don't know what news you listen to but NPR mentioned terrorism as a potential motive the day it happened and mentioned the ISIS connection the next day. It was in the news bit multiple times an hour.
Over half a century ago. Yeah, that's a long damn time ago. You might as well be talking about modern military recruitment in terms there being an active draft, which we also had in the 60s.
>Eliot Rodger, that church guy, and recently Shiv Sharma in Oregon
None of those people came to 4chan though
Rodgers trolled around on bodybuilding forums being a beta, Roof hung out on stormfront, and the stuff about the umpqa shooter being on /r9k/ was bullshit the "some of you guys are alright" post was just coincidental timing.
>Three out of over three hundred
>Over three hundred
Quit getting your "facts" from the amazing atheist
>The culture of a country doesn't change hugely in 60 years.
Ask your parents about the Soviet Union and the truly fucking serious the threat of nuclear annihilation was in the motherfucking 80's, and then get back to me on that.
More to the fucking point, ask about how likely it seemed that gay marriage would ever be passed within 50 years as of 2004.
If you go by injury or death, yes. If purely death, then no. I don't see your point, though, either way the numbers are inhumanly high.
I have. It's even stated in that article. It doesn't make it any less tragic, nor our populous and less incompetent for electing congressmen who can't even pass basic gun control laws.
>not the most liberal, slanted, biased horseshit (besides MSNBC) on the air, radio or TV.
Yeah, because the terrorists we should all be afraid of aren't the people teaching and filming children to shoot people in the face, or blow themselves up in restaurants, or rosting people alive then slowly running them over with tanks...nah, not them, they're brown...it's WHITE PEOPLE!!! GASP!!!
By the way, black guy here. I'm sick to death of "racism". In quotes because the only reason it's an issue is because white liberals are too comfortable and too lazy to complain about all the non-issues they complain about constantly.
You missed the point
The overwhelming majority of victims of so called "mass shootings" are either suicides,gang related, or the result of justifiable homicide by cops.
If you cut out gang activity from the equation than american victims of gun related crimes fall well below the global average.
The idea that mass shootings are anything other than a rare occurrence is sensationalism.
Define basic gun control. Seriously. That idea is a fucking buzzword. We HAVE gun control. If you mean a complete removal of guns, then say so. If you don't, then what exactly do you want to have happen?
>who can't even pass basic gun control laws.
Such as repealing the unconstitutional restrictions that have already been placed upon the people?
I agree politicians have been depressingly inefficient at doing that.
The last few decades of gun control has been a story of constant begrudging compromise at the expense of the pro-gun side with it never being enough for gun grabbers, no nothing short of a complete ban and confiscation will ever please you people and all that will happen then is you will switch gears to trying to get knives banned like what they are currently pushing in the UK.
So why should anyone even give you people a inch?
>The overwhelming majority of victims of so called "mass shootings" are either suicides
Brother do you even know what the legal definition of a mass shooting is.
It is not three or more people shooting one person each and that person is themselves. That is literally the inverse of a mass shooting.
>no semi-automatic weapons
You realize that would ban every single weapon in existence? The only that technically isn't semi-automatic are honest to fucking god Revolutionary War muskets, and percussion cap pistols used by cavalry men before the 1840s.
No, I fucking don't. Those are already banned. You can't own those. We HAVE magazine restrictions. Automatic weapons have been banned for 30 years. Again, I have no fucking idea what you actually want.
>People who don't know jack shit about guns (or even the existing restrictions) imposing restrictions on guns.
We ALREADY HAVE magazine restrictions, asshole.
See, this is why the gun nuts are mad
>Australia hasn't had a mass shooting since 1997
No, just a bunch of arson-based mass killings and baby bludgeonings.
>Cairns child killings
>Quakers Hill Nursing Home Fire
>Childers Palace Backpackers Hostel fire
And that's wrong anyways, there have been shootings there as well.
Nobody has ever explained to me what exactly those loopholes are supposed to be. I must be going to all the wrong gunshows, because I have never avoided a background check and waiting period.
>I say 'basic' as in the standard every other developed nation has at the very least implemented,
Most of those other nations you are referring to have total gun bans and still have comparable or greater homicide rates by capita.
Meanwhile Switzerland has some of the most lax guns laws in the worlds and one of the lowest homicide rates per capita.
Another thing to consider is Mexico which has bar none the strictest gun restrictions in the world and also the highest death toll outside of the third world.
> i.e. background checks
Universal FBI background checks are already required by every state in the union
> no semi-automatic weapons
> nor gun shows.
Do you have a actual issue with these things or did you simply hear someone say they are bad and started parroting them instead of thinking for yourself?
But they didn't do it with a gun, so it was harder
But then it's not like the largest school killing in American history wasn't done with guns.
OH WAIT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
IT WAS DONE WITH DYNAMITE 90 YEARS AGO
We aren't talking about the legal definition though we are talking about the definition that certain websites are using to come to the "300+ mass shootings this year alone!" figure.
There have been 4 mass shootings in 2015 by the legal definition.
>I must be going to all the wrong gunshows
Well yeah, probably.
What do you want me to say, that the loophole legislators have been discussing for months doesn't exist just because you personally haven't taken advantage of it?
>And that's wrong anyways, there have been shootings there as well.
That's a blatant lie, and even if it wasn't, your 'oh, now we should make knives and fire illegal' argument is something a 14 year-old would take out of this.
No, I'm asking to know what the loophole even is in the first place. I hear people talk about gunshow loopholes and no background checks is the only thing I can even make a guess at, which is simply not true. So what is the loophole?
I don't know much of the history of pre-A New Hope Star Wars. Was that one also marketed to shit and back with toys and other garbage before it even came out?
I just like that one because it's a complete story in one film.
>That's a blatant lie, and even if it wasn't, your 'oh, now we should make knives and fire illegal' argument is something a 14 year-old would take out of this.
But that's exactly what european countries are doing
Well, not fire. But you need a fucking chef's license in Britain to get large cutlery and you have to be 18 or something to buy a kitchen knife
You can SAY it's immature but since it's actually happening for realsies, I'm not sure that matters
What gun show loophole would that be exactly?
Restrictions on certain firearms (automatics, those that have been banned for arbitrary reasons such as having "the shoulder thing that goes up" in a non-shoulder thing that goes up state) are still restricted at gun shows and all the legal requirements for buying or selling firearms are still in effect at a gun show.
Where is the loophole?
What "certain websites"? It sounds like you're strawmanning, dude.
>There have been 4 mass shootings in 2015 by the legal definition.
What a completely incorrect statement you pulled out of nowhere. Seriously? You can only think of four events this year in the United States where three or more people get shot to death without a cooldown period?
Click "sort descending" on the arrow buttons to the right of "killed" and then shut up with your asspulled bullshit.
You already said it, you get to buy guns without a waiting period or background check and then said "which is simply not true" except it is, you've just been to the wrong gun shows. Don't do the whole passive aggressive question thing at me man that's just annoying.
Someone post the gun control comic where the one guy keeps asking the gun nut to share his pie over and over again until he's only got a tiny slice and the asking guy tells him to stop being so selfish
>Most of those other nations you are referring to have total gun bans and still have comparable or greater homicide rates by capita.
That's a fucking lie.
>no semi-automatic weapons
So... Only full-auto-only weapons, like heavy machine guns, and bolt-action rifles?
I don't know much about guns, but I think most things people actually use these days qualify as semi-automatic.
Anyway, I don't think gun control is really your problem. Your problem is that you have too many poor people, shit education standards and a completely useless prison system. Gun control is just the kind of simple issue that's profitable for politicians to talk about. Why would you treat an issue as complex, when instead you could imply a link between people dying and the too lenient/strict gun policies of the opposing party? Demonizing the opposition gets you way more votes than actually solving problems, and it's easier to boot.
>then said "which is simply not true" except it is
Which gun shows? In what states? Organized by who? I've been to a lot in the midwest. I go to the Tanner Gunshow every couple of months in Colorado. I have never once seen or heard of anyone avoiding background checks, screenings, and waiting periods.
Give me some fucking facts.
Idealy? No guns. But, in this day and age, I know that's not happening, so at the very least, as I've already stated, background checks, and the illegalization of these 'non semi-automatic' weapons that are used in these shootings, as well as gunshows.
>someone posts guns that are no more dangerous than the average hunting rifle claiming they're military death machines
>someone shits on that person
>the person doing the shitting is the retarded one
They can't give you facts
They hear these things but don't look it up. They just know they're true
>We don't need guns because we have cops
>Cops are racist powertripping nazies
Ah, the liberal dilemma
They're just supposed to be people in the future. Nobody in particular
Bitch I'm on your side. I was trying to be as archaic and stupid as possible without going back to the days of ramrods and matchlock
You are aware that the majority of mass shootings have been done with pistols right?
Also magazine capacity and even action type do matter at all because the way the police handle these mass shooting situations a person could attack a school/hospital etc with a black powder blunderbuss and be completely unmolested until they either run out of ammo or give up because police by standard procedure do not enter the building until after the person has exited or has been confirmed dead.
>illegalization of these 'non semi-automatic' weapons that are used in these shootings
My friend, that has been the case for decades. They've been outlawed since the Brady Bill which was fastracked after Reagan was shot in the 80s. There has never been anything used in a mass shooting that isn't semi-automatic.
Well, maybe the Hollywood Bank Heist of the early 90s if you want to stretch a definition, but that's it.
cops are power tripping nazis though, literally the one thing conservatitards and libtards can agree on. Only middle/uper class conservatives like the cops and many of them hate cops because they've even had bad experiences.
And the problem is that ShootingTracker counts gang activity, which most people don't identify as a mass shooting. Gang violence accounts for almost all of our gun-related violence.
>What "certain websites"?
What a completely incorrect statement you pulled out of nowhere. Seriously?
That is the FBI's statistic
> Seriously? You can only think of four events this year in the United States where three or more people get shot to death without a cooldown period?
That are not gang or crime related yes.
A a crip driveby shooting a bunch of bloods is not what anyone thinks of when they hear the words "mass shooting" and you know it.
>Using shooting tracker
>First post in this conversation was a image showing exactly what is wrong with their numbers
Are you a goldfish or did you just not follow the thread?
The gun show loophole applies to private sellers, not just specifically an actual gun show.
The dude who did the Azana Spa shooting got his gun through such a legal private transaction.
Yeah that came out more irritated than I actually feel.
So if cops are powertripping nazies what can we do to protect ourselves from a jackbooted crackdown if they takergunz too?
I don't even own a gun and I get mad about gun control. It's stinks of fucking makework and diversions.
I heard of a stabbing in a Swedish Ikea where supposedly one of the victims was beheaded. Maybe that's what it was talking about
>Law-abiding citizens who like guns mad the goverment wants to take their guns because criminals and crazy people exist.
Crazy, I know
In that case, it's an incredibly misleading term that is inappropriately applied. Most cases of that would involve shit like San Bernadino, where weapons are transferred for cash among a couple individuals.
I'd post the picture of John Oliver saying it's 2015 infront of a theater full of dead bodies but it might get me banned
It's funny how months before the man said "France better take in asylem seekers because their population growth is down" and showed a picture of skeletons infront of the Eiffel Tower
>So if cops are powertripping nazies what can we do to protect ourselves from a jackbooted crackdown if they takergunz too?
hey man I'm not a takeurgunzfag.
Personally I'm going to suicide by cop when the jackboots come though. I firmly believe they're coming. USA will be a police state by 2076
Domestic violence even when involving a gun can almost never be considered a mass shooting by anyone's definition
Unless it's a mormon familyexcept those desperate to demonize a inanimate object.
What you described sounds like something that SHOULD be illegal despite the lack of loophole. Nobody should just sell a gun like it was some secondhand video game.
>It's funny how months before the man said "France better take in asylem seekers because their population growth is down" and showed a picture of skeletons infront of the Eiffel Tower
I don't see how that's funny considering most of the people involved in the attack in question were French or Belgium nationals.
>Only Mormon families have four or more people for someone to shoot
Are you trying to be funny? Because you just come across as really stupid.
Have you never heard of cousins. Or aunts, or uncles.
Or hell even in a small incident there could be people who got shot just for being in the general area.
Those 50+ events were counted because four or more people were killed. They were excluded only because it was also considered a domestic dispute, and you're clinging on to that technicality because you want to act like it's unreasonable to be upset at that kind of wanton murder.
Okay I'm glad we've reached a mutual consensus on the topic.
>mfw finding out the Aurora shooter just bought a shitload of ammo off the internet like it was candy
Am I the unreasonable one for thinking that's fucking absurd?
It did have gun control in a way.
For most of human history the average person could not own weapons which were the sole domain of nobility owning or learning to use a weapon was a symbol of status and a means to keep the poor and the downtrodden as such forever.
The advent of firearms marked the change to this however because they were mass produced and anyone could learn to use them with minimal practice in comparison to a sword and anyone armed with a gun was equal in a fight a pregnant woman stood as much chance of coming out of a life or death struggle victorious as a 200lb athletic man.
God made men but Samuel Colt made them equal
Of course NPR is liberal, that was my fucking point.
The news talked about the shooters as being muslim all fucking day. Even NPR, a decidedly liberal news service, brought up all of the points you (or whoever I replied to) claimed the "tried their absolute damnedest to not mention"
If you asked a million people to define what they think when they hear the words "Domestic Violence" and "Mass Shooting" I guarantee you would have a hard time finding people that considered them synonymous.
Also you assume all of those are domestic violence?
It could also be armed robbery, criminal incidents that are not drug or gang related and "single incidents in public places".
You're reaching so far they should call you Reed Richards
>Am I the unreasonable one for thinking that's fucking absurd?
Yeah, you are. Sorry, but it's true. He fired 76 shots. It's almost impossible to buy a single box of ammo for any normal caliber that comes in less than 30. That's 30 rounds in a single box. Also, ammo is fucking heavy. You can own over a thousand rounds, you won't be able to carry more than 100 without being obvious in public, at best.
Pray tell how do you think people should acquire ammunition?
Also what if I was to tell you that I and many other people make our own ammo in our house and that it is perfectly legal?
Not him, but I really don't think it's a good idea to have guns passing through dozens of hands without a paper trail. You have to license and register a car even if you buy it from a regular person. Granted, it's easy to avoid that licensing with guns so I don't know how you'd enforce anything, but still.
>You have to license and register a car even if you buy it from a regular person.
Only if you want to own it legally.
Trying to create a paper trail with guns isn't going to prevent anyone from using them to hurt people if that is their intent any more than registration of automobiles will stop a person from driving drunk into a crowd of people.
Is it like the southern hospitality thing where he's supposed to offer to be polite, then I'm supposed to decline to be polite in return?
Because I bought two Coca Colas with that money instead
No, I'm pretty sure he lowballed you with $5, depending on how many casings you had. The amount was to test the waters. You politely decline if you wanted to keep them for yourself.
All this is looping back around to the fact that this situation has nothing to do with gun shows in the first place, though, making all the pearl clutching about loopholes and oh won't someone think of the childrens completely meaningless
I don't know how or have any desire to reload spent ammunition, and it was a full box plus a little extra. In the end that was five dollars I didn't have that morning so I chalked it up as a win
True. I'm so fucking sick of hearing guns being discussed as if they mean anything in the scheme of things. For fuck's sake, 10 people on average drown every single day, and that's entirely outside of boating. Show me a politician fighting for sensible pool and bathtub legislation.
>For fuck's sake, 10 people on average drown every single day, and that's entirely outside of boating
Gun deaths and swimming deaths have the same root cause
God, I was trying to convince other anons I wasn't too much of a newfag IN 06. Why am I still wasting my time on this site?
What the fuck have I done with my life? That was nine goddamn years ago and I'm still posting the same shitty macros.
Pic related, I saved it in 06.
I just don't fucking understand you people.
>yet, more people die from guns than from people intentionally running them over with cars every year
Yeah. Intentionally. Funny you have to use that fucking term. Intentionally, as in actually court-proven vehicular homicide is about 300 per year. Takes a lot of fucking room and a lot of fucking opportunity to really pull that off in the first place. Take the word "intentional" out of the equation and you aren't even in the same fucking solar system, as cars ridiculously outweigh gun deaths.
I want to pinch your cute little cheeks.
Numbers vary. I'll go ahead and give a rough average of 11,000 per year over the past decade.
So, basically 30 people a day.
Again, as has been mentioned:
10 people drown in their swimming pools every day in the same time period.
120 people die in car crashes every day in the same time period.
And the sources for those numbers are already posted in this thread, from the NY Times and the CDC.
>everyone who owns a gun is a mass murderer
>everyone who drinks and owns a car is a drunk driving maniac
>everyone who smokes is a cancer giver
>everyone who's black belongs in a gang
>everyone who is mexican beheads people and strings them up on overpasses
>all white people are racists
>all men hate womyn
We need more SJW to protect us from everything
>people still don't understand that assault rifles are just tacticool versions of hunting rifles
I need a bigger version of this.
>make it harder to get guns
>less people are killed by guns over stupid reasons
>the people willing and able to go through all the effort of getting a gun have better thing to do with it than invade random homes or shoot up schools
even terrorists prefer to use homemade bombs rather than guns, and they're not gonna try and blow up some random house.
Fuck you. Let me eat what I want.
BOY EVERY STATE ALREADY HAS A MANDATORY FBI BACKGROUND CHECK!
If you're good at hiding your terrorist desires, you're going to pass the background check, and the only way to avoid that is to go full big brother.
I'll give up food, clothes, soap, furniture, and rent for my guns. And if you think I'm being a ridiculous whiny fucker, consider the fact that millions of fucking people still smoke in this country. You will never fucking win based on a price war, you will only create impoverished people.
you guys really should lynch your senate already. They sure as hell won't let you subsidise or otherwise create incentive for small business loans. Big Bucks are just gonna keep destroying entry level jobs otherwise.
I like this infographic
Note the handgun section though.
You mean the fucking No-Fly list? The one anybody can end up on for any-or-no reason or even completely by accident with practically no oversight or accountability? That's what you think should determine who should have their constitutional rights stripped with no due process?
The same list liberals have been (rightfully) bitching is arbitrary oppressive racist bullshit for years?
Are you fucking retarded?
Look, I'm a gun guy, but yeah the handgun thing right fucking there in the graphic just makes anyone trying to use this as an argument look like a fucking retard.
Of course, more important than anything else is to consider that in 2012, we hit a milestone of 2.5 million deaths PERIOD in the United States. Basically a reflection of the Boomers finally getting too old:
12,765 FBI documented homicides out of 2.5 million deaths. For 2012.
That means murder caused by literally anything accounts for 0.5% of all US deaths in 2012.
Shoot at road signs and probably murder people (with a knife, because bullets are expensive) that I never would have before.
Alcohol Prohibition, 1920s. Yeah, they stopped a lot of fucking drinking and a lot of fucking crime thanks to that.
This shit never works.
So you're just a deranged retard who would give up literally everything for "muh gun!" and go on to murder just because you have nothing left but your gun and say that guns don't hurt people.
You hurt yourself for your gun and you would hurt others because you were too stupid not to hurt yourself.
Also, there were about 73 suspected ISIS terrorists in the US that were found working for the TSA in July. And that's coming from the motherfucking DHS.
> it's easier to fight back
oh ho ho
Enjoy getting injured like a chump
I was actually using that as an argument for gun control or anything. Like this graph, it's just a cool tidbit of information and shows how people get upset about the wrong things.
I'm a no-guns person, btw, but I support gun rights and yadayadayada. Just because I don't see the point for them doesn't mean I dictate what others should get, especially when they don't affect me or others.
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I'm more pissed off at the lockout laws. If you leave an inner-city nightclub after 1 AM you're not allowed back in, and the venue has to kick everyone out at 3 AM, even though the trains don't start until 5 AM and everyone is clearly too drunk to drive and likeley don't have over $50 to burn on a taxi all the way home.
America's problem isn't that there are too many guns, it's that it has a gang problem... at least, if what this guy said is true, but it makes sense given how handguns are so prevalent and popular with gangs, since they're easier to hide and such.
Gangs were a huge huge problem in the 70s, 80s, and even early 90s, and it matches up with how violent crime in general was on a rise back then.
Things like homicides won't be solved by banning shit, it's solved through social activism, community support, better jobs, and better medical care (includes mental care).
But that's expensive, takes too long and idiots believe in easy fixes like prohibition
Just the fucking best.
>except it's a cake that fucking kills people
So... regular cake?
If you seriously pull a knife on someone, you'd better be willing to kill them, because that's what pulling a knife means- you're willing to kill the person you're fighting, because you're using lethal force.
'I accidentally stabbed him to death' still means to fucking death.
This goes for any lethal weapon.
>The physically heavier sex requires more energy to sustain
it's mostly sold in bulk, it's a small quickly expendable item, if you shoot a lot than you run out a lot, and ammo is pretty expensive if you buy it in small quantities, so even your average gun owner who just shoots for fun or for practice is still going to buy 200+ rounds at a time online (if said ammo comes in boxes that big)
I mostly shoot skeet but I always buy at the very least 50-100 shells at a time. with smaller ammo you'd buy higher number of rounds at a time, and that's just average ammo sells, nothing unusual.
honestly the biggest problem is enforcement, how do you stop someone with mild mental problems form easily getting firearms. and how do you stop felons for getting access to them. currently there is no real solution, both sides of the argument are mostly retarded gun nuts want everyone armed, libs want to make existing restrictions harsher, both options make no difference. I would rather see all the loopholes closed first and make private gun sales MUCH more difficult (I personally know at least three people that have done private sales to known felons, it's not hard to get away with at all when it's just one on one and a small number of arms)
secondly, and every psycho gun nut hates it, but we need some sort of registry to keep track of who is responsible for what so the feds or police can enforce said private gun sale laws.
I don't do dumb shit with my firearms, I'm not worried about how many background checks, or if I'm on a list. but paranoia runs very very very deep in the gun nut world.