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Why does JRJR fail on everything except for Spidey?

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Why does JRJR fail on everything except for Spidey?
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>>77858278
>Why does JRJR fail on everything except for Daredevil?
FTFY
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>>77858278
Because his art is goofy. Seriousness isn't possible with rounded faces like those.
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Yes he's great.
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>>77858278
Daredevil too
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>>77858278
>what is daredevil
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>>77858278
LOL and people seriously prefer him to Erica Henderson
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>>77858469
at least JRJR can draw backgrounds

and characters doing actions
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>>77858670
The Celestials in that book looked cool

everyone else...wasn't great
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his Supes stuff aint that bad. it grew on me.
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>>77858736

disgusting.
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>>77858557
His DD work is still better.
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>>77858798
he's great at drawing the big impacts and action, which are real important for comics, and he actually draws backgrounds which should go without saying, but in today's age of the increasing webcomic-y-ness of print comics, it's still good to see

he just flubs on faces and character design
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>>77858823
get some taste
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His spider-man stuff does look kind of weird in hindsight though.
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I like JRJr. Like he isn't anywhere close to being one of my favorite artists, but I find his style charming.
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>>77858278
I dunno, he's kind of like a not-quite-as-good Kirby
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Some stuff is passable but some looks like a first grader's crayon art.
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>>77859109
Good lord.
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>>77859109
Yeah AvX and Kick Ass look like garbage
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>>77859109
he's definitely gotten worse/lazier as time went on
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>>77858278
i really dislike Supe's new outfit. i thought i'd get used to it by now, but i still find it too militaristic and over designed.
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>>77859152
Also worse inkers. His best stuff was with Dan Green
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>>77859167
lucky for you he doesn't have it anymore!
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>>77859167
Well, he's not wearing it anymore.
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>>77859109
Oh wow
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>>77859109

>perspective so fucked you literally can't tell if Giant Man is using his powers or not

This has to be a first
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If he's not inked by Al Williamson or Scott Hanna then it looks like shit or not as good as it could have been.

Yes, I'm including Klaus Janson in that last category.
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>>77859193
>>77859212
a-are you fucking with me?

also isnt this Superboy?>>77859212
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Did his health slip after Spider-man? Because he's gotten worse and worse as the years go by.
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>>77859296
nope

all Superman
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>>77859296

No.

Superman lost his powers and rides around on a motorcycle around America atm.

He's still kind of strong.
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>>77859296
>literally says I am NOT Superboy
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>>77859251
>Well, we didn't want to reinvent the wheel here. Superman is the most iconic character in history. His costume i bold. Simple. Like the man himself, he has nothing to prove. He's a hero. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. He's Superman.
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>>77859251
You forgot that Superman is actually acting like superman
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>>77859251

Dude never said that.

Also why did this comic put blood on Superman's hands?
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>>77859345

Where did it all go wrong with DC? Is this WB's fault?
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>>77859301
He clearly just doesn't give a shit anymore. All these good looking shots this guy is posting is before he learned he can release anything at DC/Marvel and it will sell on name alone.
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>>77859337
That still doesn't mean he doesn't look like fucking Superboy.
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>>77859212
Damn, I love this design, and Pak writing Action Comics is also perfect.
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>>77859374
people had a very kneejerk reaction and thought it was blood when it was pieces of his cape
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I absolutely love his art during the JMS run of Amazing, and in a lot of Punisher comics. But other superhero books, not so much.

I haven't seen his DD so I can't comment on that.
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>>77859376
>>77859345
Yeah, so dark and edgy
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>>77859392
Kuder's a pretty great artist

like a less doughy Quitely
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>>77859413
>Why are those street urchins harrassing him?
>Why is he about to throw them?
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Kingdom Come Supes is best design. Prove me wrong.
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>>77859491

That action figure isn't, though.

Is that supposed to be his ribs or something in the middle of his torso?
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>>77858278
I hate him. Couldn't stand his blocky shit art on uncanny xmen back in the day
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>>77859212
All he needs is the cape and it'll be fine
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>>77859251
That's not what Superman is like in Truth at all but whatever.
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>>77858798
The character design and art itself isn't that bad, but it really doesn't suit Superman.
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>>77859413
Corn on the cob is the edgiest food imaginable, anon.
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>>77859597
well he is an MMA fighter kind of in Superman
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>>77859063
That is actually pretty great.
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>>77859582
He got one on the new issue o Superman i think
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>>77858278
JRJR is shit at everything these days but was good at one point. I think Daredevil: The Man Without Fear has fantastic art.
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>>77859623
>he is an MMA fighter kind of in Superman
Nigga that was literally the WWE, sups was bro fisting that he fought right on the next page
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>>77859251
I fucking hate when casuals try to talk about shit they have no idea about.
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>>77859658
well that's why I said kind of
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>>77859658
I dunno Supes is pretty much the chillest guy around, I can see him being able to bro it up with a guy he MMA fought.
Nigga made friends with Batman.
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>>77859597
they're talking about the costume I think?
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>>77859582
Yea, literally Morrison Action costume without the cape and people flip a shit?
Unbelievable.
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>>77859670
>>77859251
It's not the worst comic in that style I've seen.

This is.
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>>77859702
yes. they are
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>>77858798
He still is a decent fight artist, better than most in the industry (who basically can draw a few pinups over a background) but his figures have gotten so shit and his paneling and scene composition are lazy as fuck now.
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>>77859725
Oh yea that Dobson one is miserable but there is that David Willis "male power fantasy because the men aren't twinks" is worse.
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>>77859807
pic? i've never read that one.
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>>77859807
Is that the one where people redrew it so the female version of male power looked like a Jojo character and the guy was totally into it?
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>>77859725
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>>77859376
It's probably your fault for caring about a costume more than how Superman acts in the comic. Although, I will concede to you, it is tough to know how he acts since you don't read the book.
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>>77859724
Yeah it's basically Morrison Action suit sans cape and with the Fleischer S-symbol and a buzzcut.

I was more fine with that than I ever was with the armor or the Injustice costumes.
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>>77859843
>>77859843
I feel like people who hate on Miller have only read his Batman work in sequence
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>>77859725
Well, he's not wrong about the Arkham games costumes.
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>>77859843
I love how casuals think Miller hates Superman because Batman beat him for few seconds while Superman was about as weak as he can get in a comic without being outright depowered. On top of that the fact that he's clearly shown to be a broken man in TDKR just as Bruce is (on top of the parents shit, I mean) because of traumatic events in their Superhero careers, and all he needed was 90 seconds of punching (something he's very used to and not really bothered by) to get the kick in the pants to be a real hero again.
DK2 also shows that Miller clearly likes Superman, but these people either haven't read it or hate it because "The figures are not house style so the art is unreadable over all"
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>>77859878
I really like the Injustice Costume actually, I think it's a great AU Superman Suit and a great idea for a suit without trunks that still captures a superheroic feel.
I do like this design better though
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>>77859878
I really like it overall but I still don't think the buzzcut suits him.

I don't get why people think it's an edgy redesign.

Superman costumes that are just casual pants, shirt and maybe cape I prefer to the regular costume and think work better with the character, symbolically speaking
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>>77858557
>post-BND Romita on Spider-Man
I prefer pre-BND.
I know the original was better, but Romita Jr. did a good job.
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>>77859944
I like the cape+heavy logo, but the armour really looks too bulky.

I think that Injustice having ugly graphics makes all of the costumes look a lot worse, anyway.
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>>77859947
I feel they're a bit off when he can fly. Jeans and a T-Shirt just don't seem like they could withstand Supersonic travel, and I feel like Kryptonian made ones are just a bit to silly.
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>>77859880

I don't hate on him but he's too over the top.

I don't know, it's like his plot points are supposed to be powerful but come across as too simple and A-to-B sometimes.

He sure can draw and write a great sequence, though.
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>>77859978
I think the material looks more classic spandex in the comic.
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>>77859920
DKR has one of my all time favorite Superman moments too. When he winks at Carrie during Bruce's funeral.

You're expecting people to look past the surface or worse understand anything from the comic that's not the fight pages they saw on the internet.
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>>77858278
I liked him on Thor- a lot.
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>>77860030
Is that run any good? Dan Jurgens just seems like such a bland writer at his best
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>>77859998
Yeah, the comic is basically it's own beast at this point.

To be honest, if it all looked like the arm and leg areas in game, where it's textured but skin-tight, it'd work, but for some reason they decided to have the torso area have all this armour.

The blue is also not nearly vivid enough.
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Because he's a shit artist who only has a job because he has the same name as his talent father.
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>>77858278

literally would not have a comics gig were it not for his dad. could easily be topped by spending fifteen minutes searching fucking deviantart. hack.
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>>77859413
Damn, I love seeing Supes panels like this
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>>77860002
For someone who 'hates' Superman, I swear that in DKR Miller seems intent on making him more likeable than Batman. He might be a government stooge, but it's made clear that he's still a good person, while with Bruce you really don't get that sense.
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>>77860076
It's okay at the beginning, but it never gets better than average, and the later stuff was not to my taste.
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>>77860133
>For someone who 'hates' Superman,
He doesn't. There's an interview where he flat out says so.
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>>77860161
hence the ""
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>>77860133
As far back as the 90's Miller's always wanted to get around to doing a Superman story. For the purposes of Dark Knight, Superman had to be a foe. In fact if you look at the early draft of the plot, Superman came off a lot better than in the final.
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>>77859920
Thank God someone else who likes the art for once.
I never understood what everyone's problem with it was.
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>>77859920
>"The figures are not house style so the art is unreadable over all"
I actually enjoy a lot of TDKSA but much of the art is pretty messy and the coloring looks really bad.
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>>77859990
>he's too over the top.
I think this is what I love about him (at least recently). Sin City is Miller making cool comics by mashing noir cliches together and drawing balls to the wall cool shit. ASBAR is an absurd extension of his Batman who is hilariously insane. Holy Terror even has it's moments that I found enjoyable even if most of it was trash.

His older stuff is a lot more subtle. Ronin and his Daredevil are both great and don't rely on the same level of insanity that his modern books feature
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>>77860294
I think that ASBAR has to be read as a comedy. I'm convinced that's what he was writing it as.

You also have to remember that anything post 9/11 is incredibly influenced by the fact that Miller saw it (I think, don't quote me on that) and was basically driven over the edge by it.
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>>77859990
nowadays he's gotten more ludicrous, but stuff like his Daredevil and Ronin are some GOAT-tier stuff
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>>77860377
I think he was in New York writing Strikes Again when it happened
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>>77859843
>using his millions of dollars and technology

This isn't Tony Stark prancing around in his robo suit with 0 effort.
This is a man pushing his mind and body to its limits.
DKR Batman relies more on his body than any of his gadgets.
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>>77860294
Ronin is pretty crazy, the entire thing was all the mental projections of a psychic quadriplegic
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Nostalgia, sure, but this image is Iconic to me
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>>77859251
People who hate new superbro and DC in general since the new 52:
>People who don't read comics.
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>>77859253
KEK
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>>77859253
my fucking sides
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>>77859725
Damn did he draw that MillerBat himself? Does Dobson actually have a modicum of talent that he refuses to put to use?
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>>77865126
he's too focused on trying to be a cartoonist

and he's bad at that
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>>77858278
His Spidey looked like shit. Only good work he did was Daredevil.
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>>77859491
The Kingdom Come "S" is shit.
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>>77865126
See, theres the problem with Dobson. He's not a completely awful artist. He can consistenly draw his characters in a variety of situations without a dip in quality.

His problem is that his character designs are dog shite and his art has the potential to be improved immensely but he refuses to accept criticism. Like obviously some criticism is just people being pricks, its the internet after all, but he treats everyone, including people who mean well who are just giving honest opinions or advice like they are the school bully making fun of his nerd drawings before making sexist comments at the girl the fancies who obviously wouldn't be with that supid jock if only she realised how smart and feminist Dobson is.

Fuck even B^Uckley has taken criticism on board.

The true crime of Dobson is that there is some small degree of talent there that he repeatedly refuses to nurture.
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>>77865208
This desu senpai
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>>77865154
Fuck you no it isn't.
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>>77859609
More like the corniest
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>>77859109

Those hands..
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>>77859725
Makes me wonder what did he have to say about the new DK
I'm guessing it would be something along the line of that "mind the gap!" comic he made about BvS
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>>77859725
dobson in a nutshell
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