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What Pumpkin creative director Jess Haskins was recently interviewed, and said absolutely nothing about the game:
http://squarefm.demodulated.com/episode-43-doucheboard-and-the-doodlakine-dork-vortex/

Literally Reddit: The Summary: https://www.reddit.com/r/homestuck/comments/3uyx31/3_hour_video_game_podcast_with_jess_haskins_of/cxj1eve

Is this game dead in the water?
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they're gonna release it it's just probably not going to be good
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>>77852102
I can see Hussie continually delaying it until no one cares anymore. Then he'll cancel it.
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>>77852102
I doubt they're going to release it, but if they do it won't be good.
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Before hussie removed it in the news post, when did he say he'd bring things back?
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>>77852721
Permanent hiatus, the odd gentlemen fucked him over
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>>77852721
January wasn't it?

Also happy birthday to Jade.
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>>77852721
I'd expect something on 4/13.
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>>77852926
and Jake.
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If that game and the end of the comic don't come out, I'm gonna go slap Hussie's shit until he picks his mopey ass self up and gets that shit done. I don't care if the game isn't that great, or if the comic has been hit or miss in the last act. Get it done so it's not weighing on you for eternity while you try to think of new things to do.

Can't stand the thought of leaving things unfinished.
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>>77852052
I think if it's abandoned Hussie would definitely be upfront about it.
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anyone figure out if that music leak last thread was at all legit yet?
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to be honest, I still have faith in this project, even with the funds practically cut in half. You know why?

http://hiveswap.com/

That is one fucking clean website. I know it has absolutely nothing to do with the game, and isn't representative of the project in any way, but damn. That is a nice site.
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>>77854495

Not exactly hard to make though. There are templates for that sort of site, all you really need to do is plug in your own art assets. They're not exactly short of artists for that.
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>>77852926
>January wasn't it?
No. He said maybe next year, but didn't give a specific date.
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Post cute Jade and/or Jake pics!
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>>77852052
I've never been happier of not donating for this hell of a project.
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>>77856339
I sure wish I didn't.
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Those guys working on King's Quest are practically fucking scam artists for what they pulled.
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>>77856326

Seasonally appropriate and shit
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>>77852052
Honestly, I'd have more faith in a fan project being made with RPGMaker or Unity being finished and widely distributed. Hell, even a ROM hack for Earthbound sounds more plausible.
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>>77856326
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>>77853683
What Hussie are you talking about? He'd post a long, smart ass rambling post that tries to be clever while acting dismissive of his fans' concerns, and buried somewhere in that multi paragraph cloud of smug would be an acknowledgement that we "shouldn't expect the game in the forseeable future". That's the last we'll ever hear of it, and next time we hear from him years later he'll refuse to discuss it again because his fans are "being obsessive".
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>>77859344
He HAS been getting more and more defensive over time.
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I wonder if Hussie ran out of Kickstarter money and is now funding the game out of his own pocket? I think this thing might bankrupt him.
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>>77852771
He deserved to get fucked over by them.
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>>77859344
Remember, if you interpret the characters that were described as white/pink as white, maybe YOU'RE the racist??
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>>77859508
>Hussie
>Fund game out of his own pocket
That's a good laugh.
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Looks like they're getting ready to do the 2016 calendars, expect a newspost on that soon. Maybe he'll say something then?
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> this pretty much confirms Toby isn't a regular employee of WhatPumpkin and maybe they're just commissioning the music whenever Toby's available (or maybe he already finished ALL the songs? I wouldn't put it past him)
pic related.

Huss, we don't want to stab you. Hell, Michelle said shed pause her comic to get married (something we only knew after) and print the books and we waited patiently, but giving vague words while posting memes on twitter isnt helping at all. Saying "homestuck is delaying because I fucked up but flashes will come" is enough for some here.
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>>77859683
Where are you getting that?
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Well at least I still have my patches and keychain
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>>77859877
Which patches did you get, anon?
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>>77859937
Vriska and Kanaya
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>>77859877
Hussie really knew how to dangle a carrot
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>>77859744
Never mind, just saw the post.
Honestly all of this sounds like making mountains out of molehills over not having any recent news. Considering how obnoxiously pessimistic most of /r/homestuck has been lately I'm taking their panicking with a grain of salt.
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>>77859963
>translating for English, French, Italian, German, AND Spanish
>also Linux
>he's also allowing all backers to beta test it
If it is true that they're doing all this, I can understand it taking a while. He should still say what the hold-up is, though.
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>>77859937
I had John and Caliborn.
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>>77859963
>Digital copy of Homestuck included with the physical game
You think he's going to do that anyway, despite not reaching the goal?
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This game destroyed Homestuck, and ruined Hussie's reputation.

The comic could have ended years ago, and even if it went in the same direction a lot of people are having issues with right now, there's no way there would be as much salt if he banged it all out by 2013.
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>>77860631
this post breaks my heart because I agree so much
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>>77859957
nice
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>>77860490
didnt they reach 2.5 mil with extra $$$ they let ppl pledge on paypal or w/e after the ks was over?
then again TOG apparently took about half a .5 mil. still that probably wouldnt be hard in theory.
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I remember when I used to read Homestuck and I hear they were making a game I thought it was pretty neat, then I heard it was going to be a 3D telltale style of game. Was anyone else disappointed by this?
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>>77861135
At least it's less that, and closer to Undertale, an adventure game with combat.
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>>77861135
Definitely. Not only is 2D more efficient given the budget, the comic itself already featured a multitude of 2D walkarounds, and other things like that. Why not build off of what you already have experience in, rather than burn money doing something like pointlessly transitioning to 3D?
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>>77861135
I knew it wouldn't be a fully fledged sburb but I was really hoping for an adventure in a can in a new sburb session with all the shit about skaianet and that being the main plot
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>>77861926
>How_to_trigger_k.gif
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>>77861186
>>77861196
Same. My dream Homestuck game would have been:

- 2D Top-down RPG with turn-based combat.
- Mild character customization that includes a few options for appearance, strife specibus, mythological class, and mythological aspect.
- Class and aspect affect late-game super abilities.
- 3 NPC fellow players chosen at the start of the game from a list of around 5 possible ones, each with a different class, aspect, specibus, and planet. They join your party when you come to their planet to assist with their quests.
- 4 planets with their own quest lines, the first being your own and necessary to complete before going to the other 3.
- Watered-down version of the Sims-style building system in SBURB.
- Watered-down version of alchemy system in SBURB.
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Is Karkat really a fuckawful character?
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>>77862439
he's alright but imo the forced gay crap with dave brought him down
i can't see karkat as a cock-hungry guy
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>No pics of Ara girl saying "ara ara"

For shame on all of you
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>>77862563
She's overrated sheepshit. The "heroic" fatalist characters are all the worst since they're all hypocritical as fuck.
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>>77862522
I still don't see davekat as flushed officially.

schroedingers otp
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>>77862686
how is aradia "heroic"? and when has she been hypocritical?
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>>77862522
To be honest, I haven't really seen much gay shit between the two, other than them getting along better than they did in the GO! timeline, which isn't much of an accomplishment, and the stuff in the Vriskagram, which is a little gay, but you can chalk it up to them becoming BFFs and not really having boundaries.
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>>77862563
aradia isn't a milf, or even an adult, that's the fundamental problem
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>>77863260
Aradia is clearly genki.
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>>77862522
I imagine Dave being the more bottom guy of the two. Not that I think Davekat is really going to be a thing nor is going to be endgame. Like >>77862860 and >>77863095 I feel their interaction in-comic comes off as more bro-like than anything romantic, and all the ship-teasing around them makes me think it's all going to end up as a big joke.
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>>77862522
I haven't read Homestuck in years but didn't he want John's D at some point?
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>>77863443
It was a small hatecrush (according to Karkat), and he's pretty much over it.
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If the game really does get cancelled, won't there be legal repercussions since he owes all the Kickstarter donators a game?
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>>77863548
>he just asks Toby to do it
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>>77860631
How bad has it gotten? I gave up on it when the Trickster arc with the CAUCASIAN joke happened and finally stopped bothering to read it when Aranea went nuts and John got that ring or some shit.
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>>77863515
According to him, but he's still bringing it up 3 years later when it has no relevance anymore.
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>>77863548
only if he doesn't declare bankruptcy
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>>77863548
nah, ks's fail all the time and no one can do anything about it. that one guy burnt all his backers stuff in a big pitfire and no one could do anything.
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>>77863831
>that one guy burnt all his backers stuff in a big pitfire and no one could do anything

Oh man, I just remembered that. What a fucking wacko.
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>>77862563
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>>77863548
Only for backers in seattle.
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>>77862522
>implying davekat won't happen
>implying Hussie isn't a businessman
>implying he won't keep his comic even more eternal by wasting panels of these two kissing each other
>implying we won't see every homestuck discussion being ruined by davekat and anti-davekat assholes
>despite Hussie making GO!Karkat relevant and having him straight with Terezi
>"waaaaah you are just a homophobe" / "waaaah hussie is a hack for wanting the media money, wake up sheeples"
>all of Karkat's ships (Dave, Terezi, Jade) are lame, but understandable, but still kind of lame

I just predicted the future.
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>>77864729
Î also forgot:
>butthurt Rosemary shippers complaining that Kanaya went back to Vriska (also a terrible ship, but this is Hussie's story)
>Hussie promoting polygamy bullshit and telling his young audience to try that crap
>Homestuck was never about adventure to begin with, just about ships and having sex with aliens
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>>77859963
Oh man I totally forgot about some of these stretch goals
>putting extra merch for backers as a stretch goal
>putting an digital copy of something as a high tier goal when you just need to add a steam key to the box
>THE BETA
>waiting for the game to be written in 5 languages when they can't even manage 1
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>>77865233
>THE BETA
IT'S HERE.
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>>77865256
CHECK YOUR EMAILS
do you think they'll even reach the point of sending out betas
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>tfw Terezi is just a good version of Vriska who does nothing wrong
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>Homestuck isn't over yet
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>>77863902
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>>77866110
when did Eridan become so damn funny to me? I blame hsg and their maymays
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>>77866110
PXS is shit.
"Andrew, give me money so that I can make a comic and be famous too even if I have no talent whatsoever!"
"Okay Rachel, you're a woman that means you're right. Sorry for being a man."
"Good boy. Comic are easy. This stupid fandom will eat everything."
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>>77866167
in hussies defense almost everything hes done related to mspa fell ass backwards into being profitable.

Just the uh. last few ones havent
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NAMCO HIGH
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>>77866283
>all those people assuming namco was involved in making the homestuck adventure game because of that
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>>77866283
You're right, the people at Namco were certainly high when they thought that was a good idea.
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>>77866325
Namco wasnt even involved in that shit
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>people who bought the 500 dollar tier for namco high just to get a hoodie and cheap ring
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Hussie made a genius KS campaign, that's what we can take from this.
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>>77866283
"Sir, I saw people in my university wearing shirts of rock bands."
"What does it have in common to the game, employee? Im only paid to calculate numbers!"
"I noticed they most were of band logos, aways big letters. Our merchandize maybe..."
"Say no more."
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>>77866428
I thought nobody bought that.

Honestly, serves them right. People think that labeling things as HOMESTUCK will mean that they will automatically be super successful, regardless of the quality. Preparing huge loads of merchandise even before the "game" was released was their doom.
But they never learn.
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>>77866559
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What does GO stand for?
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>>77866611
GO, as in GO!<CharacterName>?
It's Game Over. It refers to the versions of the characters in the pre-retcon timeline where Game Over happened.

Basically, the characters we've been following during the whole comic.
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>>77866611
Game Over timeline.
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So the retcon definitely wasn't planned, right? Hussie realized that the plot got away from him and did the retcon to try to fix it? I remember HSG thinking he was a mastermind who planned the whole story from the beginning.
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>>77859530
How so?
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>>77866586

God that Jane is awful. Davesprite is better in it but not by much. His route in the VN is shit too
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>>77866655
It definitely wasn't. He wouldn't have spent so much time developing the interactions in the meteor if he was planning on retconning them.
Proof of this is the penis ouija and the cherub's timeline.
Calliope having the penis ouija in her book was a direct consequence of Dave's and Karkat's fight. Retconning the timeline, making them boyfriends and having Rose say "you were drawing penises in a book while laughing like idiots HAHA GET IT? THE CONSISTENCE IS PRESERVED" is a very obvious last minute decision.
There were more examples like this, but I don't remember them because I stopped giving a fuck about Homestuck a long time ago.
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Is Reddit trying to make their own Homestuck game?
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>>77867588
More or less.
The thing with the subreddit is that, as opposed to /co/, underage people are allowed. The project is less of a Reddit making its own Homestuck game and more of a group of highschoolers in the subreddit who decided they wanted to make a game out of spite. It started as a joke, but it seems they're taking it seriously.
Obviously, nothing will come out of it because they're young and inexperienced. But we all tried to make a game when we were their age, so I personally feel I'd be hypocritical if I made fun of a group of people who are developing their creativity even if they will inevitably fail.
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>>77866655
Nah, Vriska's age gap would be too awkward.
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It's funny how most of HSG moved on to Fat Fuck Universe

I really got to figure out the formula so I can suck money away from histronic nerds on tumblr too
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>>77861135
>spend 4 years meticulously making SBURB rules, events, classes, items, economy, bosses, player houses,
>everyone and their mom says they want an SBURB copy
>Hussie makes a shitty game that focuses on story
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>>77868116
Homosexuality and LORE
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>>77868118
SBURB is virtually impossible to make, that was known since before the kickstarter. Either waste +5 years developing it (which wouldn't cost only 2 million) or the game looks empty. Overseer is text based and yet feels 10% of what a sburb game could be.
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>>77868300
A literal SBURB simulator would be stupid and boring, but playing as a group of kids who are playing their own SBURB session would have been perfect.
Fixed characters, fixed planets, and a fixed plot. It's nowhere impossible to do, dunno why people pretend it is. The plot could be perfectly linear and it would still be dope. It doesn't even have to be a RPG, a point and click game like the one he's doing would have worked too.
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>>77863630
>I gave up on it when the Trickster arc with the CAUCASIAN joke happened
Hi Tumblr ;v)
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>>77852052
Maybe she is under non-disclosure.
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>>77852721
For the current Hiatus, he never mentioned any end date, but maybe he'll put something for December 6 (12/6)?
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>>77859546
Thing Hussie never tell.

The opposite, actually, he has actually said he understand if you interpret all those character as caucasian, but there is nothing wrong with seeing them as the race you want.
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>>77869055
Except several of them were literally described as being white IN the comic.
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>>77869055
Bro/Dirk is canonly white. It's up in the air for others, though.
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>>77869081
Only Bro ever was stated as such, though. And that' has nothing to do with you comeing to the conclusion of "if you see them as caucasians, you are racists"

And again, there is nothing wrong with fanartist making the characters other races than Caucasian. Since when head canon contradicting canon is an issue to be ass blasted with.
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>>77869102
Yes and?
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>>77868912
Actually, the Trickster arc was making fun of all the people who wanted Hussie to state that they were OFFICIALLY CAUCASIANS and mock all the pople getting butthurt when fnarat featured the characters with the "wrong race". So, they got an item that made them caucasian, but only to turn out to be the most obnoxious and terrifying transformation.
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>>77869179
Nice opinion.
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>>77854495
webdev here, that was made with a template
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>>77853728
link? shit I missed it
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>>77860296
>the only two characters act 6 didn't ruin

good job
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>the characters we followed for an entire year don't matter any more because rachel's friends forced andrew to rewrite dave's dick inside karkat
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>>77869179
halftruth said she hated the trickster arc, now I understand why
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>>77869570
Nevermind, I found it. Sounds like Tensei-Brown collaborating, my dick is already hard.
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>>77869936
Nevermind again, it's too generic and themeless to be a Homestuck track.
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>>77869179
I don't know why people got bootyblasted at the CAUCASIAN joke, it was Huss's final "fuck you" at the overly PC insane tumblr people who were trying to force something that everyone was fine with being open to interpretation. Huss never gave a shit if people make the kids different races, and they were never really caucasian, just literally white.
It was the only good moment in that horrifying bit aside from the fallout and Dirk not changing.
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>>77869936
>>77870127
Care to post a link?
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>>77870295
https://soundcloud.com/user-223697287-365062392/sets/listening
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>>77870324
thx m8
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>>77861135
>then I heard it was going to be a 3D telltale style of game.
Why when the comic was initially formatted like an adventure game? Homestuck is shit anyway.
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>>77870461
because that's the only kind of videogames rachel plays
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The trickster act was good.
>Caucasian
>Erisol
>ARquius
>Zilly weapons
>Short, fast and refreshing after TEEN DRAMA.
There's nothing to hate. I get that reading it daily was a chore, but that's because Hussie posted it very slowly to make the end happen the 25th of January.
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>>77856326
jesus christ that's a huge fucking arm
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>>77856326
tjb you have a problem
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>Jade is brown because she lived in an island!
Yes, and then she spent three years stuck in a ship where the only source of light was the one that filtered through Hussie's green curtain.
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>>77871086
science is racist
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>>77862142
Horrible
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i'm just looking forward to the game for that radiation OST tbqh family, too bad james roach and his shitty stock music is going to be tainting it

hussie's not writing the game at all so i don't really give a shit about it anymore, first it was him and ryan writing it, then paradox space writers were being brought on, then some random guy from twitter was brought on as lead writer??? he seems funny at least but damn
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>>77871340
>Haskins worked with Toby "a while ago". If it wasn't already obvious this pretty much confirms Toby isn't a regular employee of WhatPumpkin and maybe they're just commissioning the music whenever Toby's available (or maybe he already finished ALL the songs? I wouldn't put it past him).

oh fuck nevermind i'm killing myself

glad i didn't donate at least
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>>77871340

at least the characters wont sound like ryan north.

frankly, id make a pretty good writer for some bits
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>>77871340
insider here, radiation has written 5 songs and even those are going to be arranged by james
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>>77871944

If you're really an insider, why the fuck hasn't there been any news in months
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>>77871944
>radiation has written 5 songs and even those are going to be arranged by james
please be lying
please
please
please
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>>77872109
I'm not
http://jamesroachmusic.tumblr.com/post/132249039177/a-much-older-version-of-a-track-from-the-upcoming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVEQ3v9RRR0
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>>77871944
but we've already heard a couple in the teasers that sounded exactly like toby's old homestuck work

i think you're trying to start trouble, and i won't have it
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>>77869551
source? i believe you personally but it'd be nice to see how you know
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>>77872178
>that sounded exactly like toby's old homestuck work
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I just want to brutally murder Karkat, Vriska and Meenah.

Then hug poor Feferi.
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I don't even think Fox is that good a composer.
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>>77872301
Psychopaths like you shouldn't be allowed to hug people.
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>>77872198
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>>77872330
I always thought he was the best composer in the music team. People seemed to disagree because saying that Tensei was the best was the hipster thing to do, although it seems that now that Undertale is out Toby has retroactively become the best again?
Anyway, Toby's music in Homestuck is great. At least his songs aren't a bloated mess, like EidolonOrpheus' pretentious compositions. This guy needs to learn how to write a melody instead of just throwing random noises in a track.
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>>77872172
well at least i can still hear the toby in this song
>>77872330
shut the fuck up, retard
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>>77872416
Tensei is not the best composer, he's just the only one that can actually play the electric guitar and compose metal. Metal fits Homestuck flashes much better than stuff like Pyrocumulus.
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>>77872443
>Metal fits Homestuck flashes much better than stuff like Pyrocumulus.
oh my god fuck off you cunt
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>>77872416
I wouldn't say that ANY of the Homestuck music is great.

>>77872420
The best he did was Moonsetter, and that wasn't even him alone.

His other stuff is mostly generic chiptune garbage.
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>>77872464
I'm not saying heavy metal, just stuff like https://youtu.be/0Mldr4sSV4s?t=60
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>>77872475
please fucking kill yourself
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>>77872350
>murdering spider8itch and crabdick (okay, he didn't do anything, just hate for his meta character progression)
>bad
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>>77872475
>The best he did was Moonsetter, and that wasn't even him alone.
He got Powell to play the violin, but the song is completely his.

>generic chiptune garbage
oh look you're trolling
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>>77872512
the best part of cascade is the version of flare that's in it
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>>77872542
Why? Because I don't share your opinion? Great going, you fanboy.

>>77872555
Yes, all people who don't agree with you are trolling, no exception.
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>>77872475
His early stuff in the Alternia albums and all is pretty generic. Medium-Good, I'd say.
But his latter songs are amazing. Moonsetter is great, Love You, Hate You and Darling Dolorosa are great too.
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>>77872604
>Yes, all people who don't agree with you are trolling, no exception.
Generic is an objective term, and the wrong one.
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>>77872372
thanks
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>>77872443
Metal is awful. Amateur metal arranges always sound the same. Just a fast paced melody with a distorted guitar.
The music that fits best Homestuck are pseudo-chiptune songs like Sburban Jungle and Skaian Skirmish. Elaborate things sound out of place, and this is what's happening in the latter albums. Barely any of the "new" songs is fitting for an album, because the compositors aren't even thinking in the comic anymore. They just compose something and label it with Homestuck so that they can get the moneys.
EidolonOrpheus is the worst.
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>>77872649
That is an subjective opinion, ergo you are in the wrong.
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>>77872605
weird, i have almost the reverse opinion, the early alternia album was great for establishing leimotifs for the characters, and most of the songs on there are solid
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>>77872752
yeah the only objective fact here is that you huff paint
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Didn't the homestuck game already come out? The one with the skeletons and lesbian reptiles?
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>>77872545
I'm not judging your acts, just saying that the image of you hugging a terrified Feferi after you brutally murdered two of her friends is terrifying.
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>>77872741
I agree about Eidolon, what a hack.
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>>77872774
Oh, they're good and very clearly superior to a large part of the OST, but they're not as brilliant as his latter works.
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>>77872791
...Are you talking serious?
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>>77872776
Go outside once in a while, should help you not get upset about other people's opinions.
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>>77872866
As serious as you when you said you wanted to be a psycho murderer.
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>>77872886
two people agree that you're shit and your waifu a shit
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>>77872888
>As serious as you
Retard nobody is playing serious but you, holy shit im not even him
Lurk more and dont reply to bait
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>>77872802
I've heard people saying that EidolonOrpheus was the best because his music was so complex. But it's not complex, it's just incohesive.
His melodies remind me of the music I play when I improvise with the flute, and that's pretty bad. Random notes that sound good together don'tt make for a good melody.
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>>77873011
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>>77873051
Jit is where you wanna go for good compositions
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What music did James Roach do that was so egregiously bad?
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>>77873412
Your mom.
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>>77873412
All of it. Show me a good original composition by him. You can't.
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>>77873343
>Negastrife
>That dissonance
It always puts me off. Dissonances aren't necessarily bad, but I particularly dislike this one a lot.
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>>77873412
his music is just very boring and personality-less for someone who apparently has over 20 years of experience in music
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>>77873412
literally the only thing he can do is take other people's songs and make them sound worse
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>>77873790
Jit likes to challenge himself with weird time structures and dissonances so they're pretty hit and mis, yes
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http://skullmandible.tumblr.com/post/133541985571/hey-cohen-i-hope-this-message-isnt-too-weird-or

>hiveswap's main writer is an alcoholic that mixes adderall with alcohol
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>>77873922
What good songs does he have?
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>>77874018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4LfG3lSDxE
http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/the-broken-clock
http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/wsw-beatdown
http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/tribal-ebonpyre
http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/awakening
http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/scourge-sisters

and the entirety of http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/album/one-year-older
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>>77873981
>lately I am only allowing myself two cocktails in the evening and I get all excited about them and really relish them now.
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>>77874315
wow ONLY two
i bet they come in a highball glass
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>>77873981
Why would you waste your precious Adderall with alcohol?
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>>77874500
it's because it gets you depressed as fuck when the effect starts to go away

of course the wise thing to do is to drink alcohol to feel better...
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>>77872301
good taste
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>>77870127
I can hear the motifs of Cascade, Flare, and a couple of others near the end. And it's a WIP, so there'll probably be more obvious in the final version.
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>>77874799
ugh, I hope they really really improve it
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>>77874821
It sounds like it's going to only be the beginning part of the ending flashes, so I guess it's appropriate for it to sound like a 10 minute build-up to the main stuff.
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>>77874954
>30 minute flash instead of a few short flashes
ugh
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>>77875003
It would probably be split to several smaller flashes, I don't Hussie has the patience to make a 30 minute long uncut flash after his trouble with exporting Cascade.
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>>77875103
but that's what you said
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>>77868912
I hated it because the big tumblr race argument was stupid as fuck and never should've bled into the comic, plus the Trickster arc was designed to pander to tumblr fanartists in the first place

I also hated the Beforus trolls for being tumblr stereotypes when they could've been interesting characters. I think Hussie paying attention to the tumblr fandom was a big part of why the comic's quality declined. Whether he's pandering to them or taking shots at them, usually pages related to tumblr shit are bad.
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>>77875152

there were a few funny jokes. but he seemed to lose focus on telling a coherent story.
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>>77874954
10 minutes is a long ass time for a 'build up', it'll probably be the song for the entire flash
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Knowing Hussie? It's never going to happen. I'm glad I didn't back it.
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>homestuck could've ended gracefully back in 2012 or 2013 and been remembered fondly as a pretty good and funny webcomic
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>>77875123
No, I was saying that there could be several separate flashes for each part of the finale, and that the 10-minute WIP would constitute only the first part.

>>77875338
A 10 minute build-up would mean that there's going to be a lot of shit that's going to happen. Besides, Hussie wouldn't have been taking as much time as he did if there's only going to be a 10 minute flash.
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>>77875953
but that 10 minute song is shit
cascade set to it is really underwhelming
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>>77876096
Because Cascade is composed of several smaller parts and the 10-minute track is only one part of a soon-to-be-complete song.
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>>77871086
She had a tanning lamp to keep her browness. She wanted to look good for her friends
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>>77875953
dude took a year just to shit out Game Over
and yeah he was dealing with game stuff at the same time, but he's still doing that in this pause too
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>>77876299
Could you get a tan on LOLAR
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>>77876351
No, he only got to work on the comic for three months where he did Game Over and all of A664, the rest of the gigapause was spent on side-projects like Namco High and PXS, TOG shit, and mourning for his dad.
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>>77876506
he didn't work on namco high
he only wrote pxs comics, which would take him days total
mourning his dad could eat up a couple months
if he actually did 'TOG shit' he wouldn't have lost so much money

and A664 was being made as it was being released
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>>77876497
Only one way to find out
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>>77876718
He was travelling across the country in attempt to contact them.

>and A664 was being made as it was being released
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23820318/MSPA%20News/MSPA%20News.html#11/11/14
>If it were anything goofier I would probably forget to update, since A664 is all done and just sitting there.
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>>77876824
was A664 the one with the flash set to SAW music? because he definitely had a week long gap in order to make that
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>>77876900
That was the end of A665, which was being written while A664 was rolling out.
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>>77876961
i wish he didn't make so many goofy subacts
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So is this thread still alive? Ok, good.

Can someone tell me what the hell happened to the games budget? I keep hearing that the budget got cut in half or that the odd gentlemen fucked them over or something. I don't know. I tried looking for news about it on the kick starter and the mspa site, and I don't see anything about the budget.

Can anyone clarify this?
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>>77877190
the odd gentlemen asked for money to make the game, hussie gave them like half a million and never replied until hussie forced them, then they sent a single really glitchy room with no progression and stopped replying
hussie traveled across the country to meet them in person and they admitted they spent most of the budget in king's quest, the other game they were hired to make
I think they agreed behind closed doors to give hussie his money back, but hussie is using it as an excuse to take a vacation
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>>77877045
He always intended there would be seven acts, plus some more symbolism in "A666" wouldn't hurt.

>>77877190
https://archive.is/JR0PN
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>>77877334
so what, he split things into subacts just to keep his seven act promise, man he'll do anything to pretend things are all planned out
>>77877190
there was the tumblr post >>77877334 which is generally accepted as what happened though its never been verified by any other kickstarter backer so there's probably some embellishment
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>>77877334
>>77877288
Fuck, well thanks. That finally clears things.

Fuck me for spending a $100dollars on it.
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>>77876299
She got what she wished. I mean, when she met them she had perfectly dark skin.
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>>77877506
Look at it this way: at least you're not one of those fantroll guys.
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>>77877621
god I hate white people so much
t. ghostwriter
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>>77877501
>its never been verified by any other kickstarter backer
She had to actually contact Kickstarter for the details, I imagine they wouldn't have given her the info if she wasn't a close friend of Hussie's.
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>>77877997
the fact she contact through kickstarter instead of a personal e-mail/phone/whatever is exactly why another high level backer should be able to get the same info
point is the way some of the things in that post are phrased make it sound like things ipgd is assuming and not things specifically told to her
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>>77878169
What other high-level backers are there, who's not part of WhatPumpkin or contributing in Hiveswap's development?
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>>77878169
>>77878583
She asked it not because she was a backer but because she's a close friend of them.
It's motherfucking ipgd.
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>>77878583
uh, a bunch
ipgd wasn't even one of the highest
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>>77867755
>Obviously, nothing will come out of it because they're young and inexperienced. But we all tried to make a game when we were their age, so I personally feel I'd be hypocritical if I made fun of a group of people who are developing their creativity even if they will inevitably fail.

This is the most insightful comment I've seen in a not-homestuck thread.
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Do you think maybe even a tiny bit of the reason for the hiatus for the comic is due not so much to making the game necessarily, but making it so that the two coincide in such a way that is relevant to one another?
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>>77856326
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>>77879119
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>>77879114
considering the game was slated to release in 2014, and then early 2015, i don't think they should be actively halting the games release for any reason
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who ARADIA here
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>>77878798
But this is a Homestuck thread!
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>>77875152
But that's what was interesting about them imo. While the original trolls were stereotypes born of an edgy world, the beta trolls were stereotypes of a world that was too soft.
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>>77879247
When they said early 2015 they were lying, because they said it around November and they hadn't even started the game yet. I don't know why they did it.
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I remember when Homestuck has daily updates.

I was happy then.
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>>77879581
Are you unhappy now?
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>>77879647
That's the implication, yes.
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What do you guys think of the reply on this post?

I love it and agree with almost all of it
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>>77879665
Good. Me too.
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>>77879581
We didn't know how good we had it.
>tfw we'll never have days like those again
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>>77879698
>Jake admitting to the possibility of being Asexual and Aromantic
For fuck's sake Jake was saying that he doesn't deserve to be in a relationship, that's not the same as him saying that he doesn't want to be in a relationship.

Other than that I agree with most of the post.
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Post fan music that you think is pretty cool

https://soundcloud.com/shandyscribs/revolution-engage
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>>77879698
It has plenty of cocksucking and it exaggerates things that happened to make them sound better than what they are.
Her examples of why is still good is just a summary of this last act, and almost everything she says isn't good or just happened in the least satisfying way.
Dave's feelings towards heternormativity? How does it reasonably have a place in Homestuck? Did she forget that Dave's monologue felt more like a post in Hussie's blog than a real, organic conversation? I could almost see Hussie typing that saying "I'M SORRY FOR MY S_O PHASE, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN". The most emotive flash in AGES? Well, yeah, and late-Act 6 is know for its worrying scarcity of animations. Confirmation that EVERY death makes a Ghost? WOW! As if secondary ghosts meant something! New info about game mechanics? Is she talking about the grist rigs? Because it being made in the most half-assedly possible way, with AR doing it almost as a background activity, was lame as fuck.
>new characters to the Session THIS far in the comic.
Is this supposed to be a good thing? Because it's not.
Roxy creating the Matriorb was also incredibly unsatisfying. Her struggle was literally saying "omg it's too difficult", now talk about things being half-assed.
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>>77879439
original trolls were just internet stereotypes, not necessarily edgy
>>77879698
>I have not seen anything wrong with the last updates
lol
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>>77879698

pretty airheaded post.

did anyone really want the ending of homestuck to be full of meandering conversations. thats an odd thought.
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>>77879698
>emotive little speech
>possibility of being Asexual and Aromantic, but also showing obvious signs of being depressed
>Reading Homestuck has made me grown as a person
Why should we care to the opinion of an underage?
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>>77880270
I wanted the plot progression and the conversations to happen at the same time, just like it had happened during the first half of the comic. But it seems that at some point Hussie lost the ability to make them both happen at the same time, so we got entire chapters with barely no text and then chapters full of text and conversations but no action whatsoever.

The problem is that he tried to mantain his le epic troll persona and withheld the reunion for so fucking long that it happened right at the end of the comic, so all the interactions that should have happened in the span of the comic are happening all at once.
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>>77880032
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEI_jZ4jiOU
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>>77880032

I listen to A LOT of homestuck fan music at work to pass the time so I've found quite a few I enjoy.

Uranian Morpheme - http://tindeck.com/listen/vvfp
https://homestuckgaiden.bandcamp.com/track/corpse-casanova (one of my favorite fan tracks)
Democracy - http://tindeck.com/listen/hkrs
https://unofficialmspafans.bandcamp.com/track/good-dog-best-friend
Carefree Commune - http://tindeck.com/listen/kcui (Another one I really like)
https://unofficialmspafans.bandcamp.com/track/a-study-in-skaia
Aurora Lights - http://tindeck.com/listen/ukdr

This ones kinda cheating but Skeleton Hunting by James Roach is really good.
http://tindeck.com/listen/mkuaf

I have like 10.4 gigs of just homestuck music if anyone wants me to whip up a .rar
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>>77881696
>by James Roach
way to invalidate your choices
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>>77868300
>SBURB is virtually impossible to make

Yeah if you have no imagination. Sure there would be limits, but making the basic structure would be tedious but well worth the effort. Probably would be a solo experience of micromanaging your team, but in randomly generated worlds with randomly generated players it could be tons of fun
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>>77862686
Vriska is shit anon, sorry to break it to you, but this will, has been and is always a truth, forever.

Dwi faggot.
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>>77882831
>Vriska is shit
That's not Karkat.
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>>77882831
Vriska is the 8est m8
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Is it bad I regret not having enough money at the time to donate to Hussie's kickstarter?
I mean even if Homestuck does end disappointingly I enjoyed most of it enough that I feel like I should pay him something
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>>77865468
This. Literal Mary Sue who gets involved with everything and does everything while having to be excused for it.

Vriska's no better, it's about how each is portrayed.
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>>77883963
it's actually really bad that you would still donate to a kickstarter even if you knew it was going to be a disaster
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>>77882831
I never said she wasn't shit, because she is. But Aradia prancing about all happy about being alive and telling other ghosts to accept their unimportant fate is hypocritical as fuck when she spent most of her session in various states of undeath, obeying what paradox space told her to do.

She claims to be alive and loving it, but hangs around with ghosts, in the afterlife, and makes no attempt to accept the responsibilities that the living must bear. It doesn't matter whether she dies again or not since she's effectively dead already, but I want the satisfaction of seeing her being permanently imprisoned in the Furthest Ring as a ghost for her hubris.
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>>77885073
Or she just acts like a plot device and waits for her moment to shine. Just like Sollux.
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>>77885338
>Implying they're not just residual leftovers of a previous narrative that has nothing to do with the current Homestuck.
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>>77885476
>residual leftovers
>describing every troll ever who are now shitty ship merchandise for the humies
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>>77883509
Vriska is a monster, Karkat is a victim.

>>77883914
Garbage.
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>>77885073
As an, as you say, undead she bore more responsibilities than any of the other so important, so responsible "living" did, even Fuckrezi (I'm throwing darts to see which fag you are, people who speak up always are a fag of something, that's an universal law or something), so yes, she's entitled to fuck around as she's, for once, truly alive.

Also, her needless and cruel death is also precious, precious Vriska's death. Fuck y'all.
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>>77866283
Is no longer playable in any form and the site that hosted it and a couple dozen wonderful comics is gone forever.
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>>77886000
>Vriska is a monster,
She is an amusing monster

>Karkat is a victim.
He is an amusing victim

>Garbage.
Bad tastes
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>>77886063
wait seriously?

I paid 15 bucks for that and felt SO FUCKING CHEATED
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>>77886150
at least you didn't pay the really high tiers like some people
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>>77885575
The current main trolls are the plot devices, not Aradia.
Except for Vriska and Terezi, who are genuine characters.
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>>77886119
why can't the roles be reversed

I want Karkat to bully Vriska
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>>77872301
Karkat does deserve death, he is the most useless character in the comic.
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>>77886331
Karkat cannot into bullying though, only being bullied
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>>77886150
Namco shut down the site about a year after the game came out. they did their best to wrap up all the comics they had running, but besides bravoman, none of them had any books out.

The Mappy, Bravoman and Wonder Momo cartoons stayed up for a lot longer, but I guess someone finally remembered to shut down the youtube page about 6 months back. Real shame, Mappy was REALLY good.
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>>77886054
Terezi's also terrible, faggot. I don't discriminate among bad characters. You're just proving your own Aradiafaggotry that you decry from others so much.

And Aradia never had any more responsibilities than the others, given that she relinquished any control over her own actions to the commands of her future selves, meaning all her loops were demanded by paradox space, not herself. Her role in the session boiled down to "s0mething bad happened. identify and c0rrect", which meant 1000 doomed Aradiabots, so over 12000 A2 ghosts are now dead because she was reactive instead of preventive. Her "needless and cruel death" was demanded so she could listen to voices and prototype the frog head. She didn't have to listen to any of her future selves, but she chose to instead. She's a mechanical puppet, dancing on strings of time.

Correspondingly, all four B1s had just as much responsibility if not more, and yet they still live and must fight to achieve victory. None of the living humans are allowed to get off this ride. Why should Aradia be allowed to joyride when the others don't get to?
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>>77879960
>asexual and aromantic while another version of him was married and had several kids as well as a weird incesty relationship with his adopted sister
I suppose I can excuse that at least once if they haven't payed attention to the game.
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>>77881921
How would you incorporate a time player?
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thanks hussie.
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>>77888270
HOW DO IIIIIII
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>>77888270
what
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>>77888458
One of the shooters in San Bernardino.
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>>77888270
>Bieber
>WWE
ISIS truly is scum

Pic related is apparently on the calendar, what the heck rachel.
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>>77888270
PUT THE BULLET
BACK IN THE GUN
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>>77889598
That looks like fucking shit.
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>>77869570
my bad didnt check the thread for a day, i see you got it tho.
i still have no idea where it actually came from other then it was posted here last thread with a claim it came from the music team.
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>>77889598
#BodyPositivity
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>>77889598
Put some color on their noses and it's literally Tumblr: the artwork.
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>>77883963
if no one funded hiveswap, homestuck would have been done long ago and hussie wouldnt have gotten rekt by TOG. hindsight 20/20.
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>>77889706
SBaHJ needs to get a restraining order against KC. He just can't pull it off.
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Man the homestuck calendar is some hot garbage. at least theres no new march eridan
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>>77889706
I don't know about you guys, but somehow "I told you about stairs" isn't as funny as it was six years ago.
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>>77889806
Do they have pictures of each month? The last calendar was super bad, this one looks much better.
I don't have many choices for calendars.
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>>77889598
>By $helby
I don't know what I expected.
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December calendar: aka winterteen romance
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>>77887338
Even then there's still Jake's blue lady fetish.

>>77889598
Eh, it's Shelby, it's what you expect.

>>77889806
February's picture is pretty great though.
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>>77889806
What could you possibly mean?
Seriously, has there ever been any quality control with the calendar art?
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>>77890014
Seriously, what were they thinking?
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>>77890014
>homestuck
>homestuck fandom
>homestuck anything

>quality control relating to art

top kek m8
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>>77889598
this is worse than march
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>>77889598
I'd prefer this image for the swimsuit month.
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>>77890882
That would trigger too many people.
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>>77890993
But remember the plan, to give everyone a boner.
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>>77890882
As far as I'm concerned Mindwipe is canon bodies for everyone. Hussie already signed off on Vriska.
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>>77852052
Yes
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>>77891410
>Rose is short and flat
I love this for some reason
Just the idea of her surrounded by all the other girls with them fairly tall with jiggly tits and/or ass as she just quietly tries not to show she's jealous seems funny and hot to me
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>>77891545
I picture Rose medium, Jade busty, and characters like Vriska flat as a board.
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Hiveswap was biggest Hussie mistake
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>>77891604
I remember people acting smug about the kickstarter raising so much money, and how Homestuck was gonna be /v/ related.
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>>77889598
>Shelby did this
How did her art get worse?
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>>77891592
>Vriska flat as a board
I'm with you on the others and I'mma let you finish but

Although yeah, Vriska being flat as a board and refusing to accept it does fit her character.
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>>77891592
>>77891817
>Vriska
I see her as not terribly attractive but able to carry herself well that she still can come off as hot

Though the idea of Vriska actually being having 10/8 body but shitty personality has it's own charm
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>>77891545
All of the human girls should have the proper bodies of goddesses, as they are.
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>>77886063

>gone forever

Actually, I have an archive of every Shiftylook strip and a self-contained offline version of Namco High. I could put them on Mega or something.
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>>77891592
If Jane is any indication, Jade should end up pretty stacked
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>>77892110
Do it
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>>77891948
>Though the idea of Vriska actually being having 10/8 body but shitty personality has it's own charm

8ccepta8le
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>>77892132
Fit + busty is best
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Complete
Global
Kanayafication
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>>77892094
>All of the human girls should have the proper bodies of goddesses, as they are.

>Jade - Amazonian musclegirl with curves in all the right places
>Jane - Full on fat fertility goddess look, she might be called obese if she didn't carry the fat perfectly
>Roxy - Starlet/supermodel look, would make Barbie envious
>Rose - Body of a fifteen year old boy and totally not jealous of the others
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What Do You Like The Most
Plot Or Backstory
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>>77892359
So, basically this?

>Jade's furry, furry legs
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>>77893002
WHO KEEPS COMMISSIONING THIS STUFF
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>>77893148
Seems like from her comments even Chaz is sick of it
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>>77893194
i don't think she really cares as long as she's getting paid. why would she be mad about a devoted customer
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>>77893254
Paid or not I'd get sick of it if all I was endlessly paid to draw was a comic about a chick with a dog dick fucking a little boy all the time
It's like that one guy who nonstop commissions artists for stuff of Astrid Hofferson eating pig shit
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>>77893313
she should subtly raise the rates for him alone
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>>77893194
It actually seems like she herself is just pushing this stuff
I mean, of all the stuff she's drawn and/or could draw, this is the most popular?
it's not even the third most popular dave ship, let alone a common fetish
futa is one thing, but furry futa on shota is another
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>>77893375
>it's not even the third most popular dave ship, let alone a common fetish
Your right, for the longest time it was the first
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>>77893313
I was just thinking about that guy the other day.

What kind of human being must that be. It seems like there's so MUCH of that weird garbage.
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>>77893375
Nobody else really commissions her I think, and the people that know about her stuff now see her as the depraved furry chick, so it's all girls with animal dicks.

>>77893416
I thought it was like some porn artist in-joke, but it's ALL the same guy who commissions it. More than half of her page on paheal is pigfucking, all by one, very rich, man.
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>>77893148
More importantly why hasn't someone just commissioned a normal Jade
that body is wasted when it's got a dogdick
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>>77892549
think I gotta go with plot. I'd rather something where lots of stuffs happens to people that something where people learn about the past but nothing comes of it
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>>77891545
>jealous
Pretty sure she's too gay to notice any jealousy over the sound of her roaring ladyboner
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>>77889933
did someone stick giant marshmellows on Tavros's horns?
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>>77889822
the joke hit its pay-off when Dave got belted down the staircase by Bro, and everything after that has been redudant with the possible exception of 'I warned you about seers'
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>>77893627
I think it's snow
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>>77893627
It's cocain. Vriska is planning on snorting it all of his horns.
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>>77868550
>Fixed characters, fixed planets, and a fixed plot
all the appeal of homestuck comes from the evolving, easily seeded mythology for each player. The way shit you do early on colors everything after that, which then feeds back into itself as you reinforce your mythology by alchemizing things relevant to it.

Get rid of that and you just have a generic fantasy with a chess theme.
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>>77889706
Shouldn't it be something like, I warned you about "scares"?

You know, at least make some kind of joke out of it.
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>>77868116
If you haven't figured out the formula by now you're an idiot
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>>77889741
>"Tumblr: the x"
Please stop this bullshit.
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>>77894190
Literally Tumblr: The Post.
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>>77894264
Tumblr: The Reply
>and this is Tumblr: The Shitpost
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>>77889706
>>77889598
Oh my fuck
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>>77889706
Who's
>printing out a spooky Homestuck pic and covering this up
here?
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>>77889933
Kanaya looking thirstier than ever
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>>77893254
She came to hsg recently asking for ideas for other lewds
I didn't save it but she did an Equius bonded up with one of the girls
Also this, which was an edit of something

From the sounds of it, she wants to be able to practice other stuff, but yeah money's money
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>>77894909
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>>77894909
I got a pregnant Jade and roxykittens out of it, so I'm satisfied.
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>people are this mad
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>>77895332
I liked Vriska before the retcon because she was an entertaining asshole
I love her after it cause of shit like this
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>>77895332
>Tavros didn't get stabbed and also kissed Gamzee
>Feferi didn't get shot
>Karkat and Gamzee stayed palebros
>Eridan didn't get sliced in half
>Nepeta wasn't viciously demolished by a crazed clown
>Sollux didn't abandon everybody to hang with his girl
>Equius is actually relevant and didn't die from getting a boner from his superior
Who let Karkat make another screenplay?
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>>77895332
ayyyyyyyy
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>>77895332
>Karkat consumed Vriska to get the most screentime
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All the calendar parts I could find
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>>77895450
Vriska, he seemed oddly hopeful about things so she decided to let him make another screenplay then wait until he realizes how horrible it is to laugh at his pain
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>>77895617
>Jade's asleep in all of them
Fuck
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>>77886217
> Mary Sue and Mary Sue: The Mirror
> genuine characters

Heh.
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>>77895617
lmao, i like may. (although idk why everyone draws pre-game dave with red sleeves. super minor pet peeve i guess)
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>>77895617
I count six Cals and 3 Bros in May. Can you find more?
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>>77895716
>The comic will end and she'll sleep forever for reasons
>Everyone still makes sure to include her in everything

Also that pic's cute, source?
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>>77896016
You don't want the source. Trust me
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>>77896052
That's the babyfucker/gore person isn't it
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>>77895450
It bothers me that Karkat and Gamzee didn't stay moirails. It was foreshadowed from the beginning of Act 5.1 and it was a good resolution to the whole murderstuck thing.
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>>77896835
>good resolution
>forgiving a murderer who killed two of your friends
>said moiralship was so terrible, it didn't even work out
No. If you want another foreshadowing, wait for pale Karkat/Kanaya.
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>>77897025
>implying he won't shooshpap the empress into pale bliss
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>>77895332
Panel edits are better than making shitty complaint posts saying you're going to QUIT THE COMIC RAAAARGH.

Also let's be honest, Hussie erased 3 years of character development to bring back the /one/ dead main character who had never really left the comic. Vriska was relevant again right after she died, and remained relevant all the way through act 6 - it's like the very concept of dream bubbles was made for this.

Giving her a somewhat satisfying end to her arc, then bringing her back as Act 5 Vriska: It's Like She Never Had Any Character Development edition... this is just a testimonial to Hussie's dedication to taking a meme to its logical extreme, instead of writing an interesting story. We've seen her whole range of Vriska's good and bad and made up our opinions. There's nothing else to say about her now. Even assuming good writing was Hussie's priority over pushing his reader's buttons, there were other, more interesting characters to bring back and develop. (Of course, if Hussie's priority was good writing, he wouldn't have retconned anything back into the story... but that's an entirely different topic.)
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>>77897060
>satisfying ending
>everyone groaned that Vriska became Meenah's yes man
>didn't even continue with the LE quest
>kept the fucking treasure for themselves
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>>77897091
Pre-retcon dead Vriska went along with Meenah somewhat, but she wasn't her yes-man.
>didn't even continue with the LE quest
Any kind of quest Vriska initiates usually causes a bunch of awful stuff to happen, and when there's a silver lining, it's often by dumb luck. I'm of the opinion that it's a GOOD thing for Vriska to not involve herself in plot stuff.
>kept the fucking treasure for themselves
Wasn't there something about it being usable once?

Anyway, this shit was maybe not the best, but it was satisfying on virtue of letting Vriska fizzle out of relevance while she thought things over. It was better than everything that happened post-retcon (before Hussie took it into an awful direction, too.)
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>>77897091
The Meenah part was dumb, but instead of retconning Vriska back to life he should've just had her complete the LE quest from the dream bubbles and not derailed her character in the first place
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No wonder people felt pity for (Vriska) crying, because she is the "lawful good" version lmao.

They don't even realize that she sacrificed millions of ghost versions of her friends and dancestors to bait LE.

>>77897091
>everyone groaned
More like Meenkat shippers groaned, because Karkuck will forever be chasing Terezi's ass for all eternity.
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I haven't been to a /co/ homestuck thread since long before /hsg/ got shitcanned, so I ask: was there any information about just what happened with the whole game thing, since ipgd leaked what she found out?

How exactly did TOG get away with taking Hussie's money and spending it elsewhere? They DID get away with it, didn't they?
Has there been lawyers all up their ass about this? Court appearances made? What the fuck happened?
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>>77897207
>wasn't her yes-man
she literally molded herself after Meenah's tastes. Her hair, the tattoos, the clothes, she compromised her entire personality just for the validation of one person
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>>77897314
To me it just seemed like her idea of 'cool' changed and she decided to look a little more like Meenah. It's only later post-retcon that she clung to her like a lost puppy.
(Which makes sense, considering how she dropped her "I am a badass with 0 self esteem problems" act and realized how awful she as; Meenah was the only person around who had the potential to not make her feel like shit.)
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>>77897091
>these two thinking about romance while a demon rampages around
Who the fuck do they think they are?
Fucking Karkat?
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>>77897747
Even Karkat didn't do that, he's been psyching himself up for the fight
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>>77897879
Pre-retcon Karkat focused on romance crap, senpai
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>>77897917
Yeah, but it wasn't his entire thing, though. Most of his time was spent helping the kids pre-Cascade, and while he was more focused on romance after that, he also still kept his priorities in check, mostly trying to keep Gamzee from flipping out and killing everybody and making sure everybody was prepared for their arrival (which didn't work out that well, but nobody ever said it was going to)
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It just dawned on me that we have reached a point in the comic where a version of Tavros could conceivably bully a version of Vriska.
What a time to be alive.
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>>77897985
That would imply the comic is ever going to be back instead of quietly cancelled after selling their christmas season merchanise
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>>77897091
Personally I thought Vriska had a satisfying ending when she mead up with the Dead John.

Then she just kept on being relevant.
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>>77898095
Yeah. Too bad Hussie had other plans for her and her endgame ship isn't with John.
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>>77898121
That whole bit though just seemed like solid end note. She pays for her fuck ups by dying, gets a consolation prize husbando, and lives somewhat happily ever after. Wraps it up in a neat enough bow.

Keeping her relevant almost makes me think it was a sunk cost move by Hussie. He realized he had already invested a shit load in her character, and just writing her away like that wasn't worth it.
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>>77866586
Still the worst.
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could the person who leaked the EoA song leak who the ghostwriters are?
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>>77895332
>Equius didnt turn out to be the "secret" player

still mad desu
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>>77898170
I really hope this isn't the case. We're already wondering what in hell Hussie plans to do with Vriska and whether it's going to be good enough to justify her constant screentime, especially the recent retcon developments. So the sunk cost fallacy affects us already. But if Hussie's doing this for the same reason.. yeah.
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>>77898731
Can someone post Nepeta's shipping wall and check the left drawing before her OTP?

There you go, at least that one is better than Vrisjake or Kanaya crawling back to Vriska. But I dunno how the fuck Hussie will make that work.
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>>77866559
They could've just made a shirt with the Pac-Man sprite on it and it would've sold more. Even though said shirt already exists.
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>>77869124
Karkat describes John's ectobiologized gaggle of rugrats as pink. I don't know any black people that can be accurately described as pink, so it's likely that every single human is white. Hussie's insistence on aracial characters was 100% a retcon and the only reason he messed with Bro specifically is because that's the only one that became memetic.
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>>77869124
Rose was described as white by Kanaya, John was called pink by another troll.
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>>77895617
Pretty bad.
I forgot how awful Shelby's art was. Why can't she learn to draw? Does getting famous before getting good stunt your development as an artist?
I read her comic and it was a mess. It wasn't even enjoyable in an "abstract-artistic" sense, it was just awfully drawn.
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>>77899354
Why is Shelby popular again?
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>>77899421
She dated Toby despite being a lesbian to become part of the elite.
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>>77899354
In some cases, like with the kind of exposure she got, hell yeah it does. She gathered a legion of drooling fans for having noodly blushing tumblr art in canon, and can and will readily sic them on critics by publicly mocking the offender and spouting off Nicki Minaj. She's an opportunist by trade, not an artist.
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>>77899439
Bet she wished she "realized" she was a lesbian a bit after that Undertale money kicked in.
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>>77899491
>and spouting off Nicki Minaj
what?
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>>77899537
Just noting her nasty use of appealing to the audience, that's all.
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>>77899439
>>77899491
>>77899536
>>77899568
Would any of us do any different? Let's be honest. Would you Hussie/Toby dick for fame and $$$?
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>>77899586
I don't like fame. Don't know about the money part, probably not.
But even if he doesn't have the looks, Toby is the kind of people I could fall in love with. Does this answer your question?
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>>77897300
They settled out of court, as an actual lawsuit would have most likely left neither party happy.
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>>77899439
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>>77899686
What part? Her dating Toby despite being a lesbian? It is, or used to be, in their respective social media accounts.
The last part is a logical conclusion to the facts.
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>>77899721
>The last part is a logical conclusion to the facts.

It's an assumption on your part.
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>>77899586
No, I'd be their friend because I thought they were cool, not because it would make me popular with 14 year olds.
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>>77899721
Not that anon, but do they all live near each other? Is this another situation of a group of friends benefiting off of each other's fame?
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>>77899737
>Shelby is a lesbian.
>Starts dating Toby.
>Gets on the art team.
>Suddenly realizes she's a lesbian, again.
>Breaks up with Toby.
>Is still on the art team, being on of the most important members despite having no skill whatsoever.
Don't be stupid, anon.
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Which current Homestuck artists/fan artists do you guys still like? Any big names? New people?
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>>77900107
glub's still pretty based
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/664335
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>>77882831
Vriska's a terrible person and a fun character. Making her a permanent supporting character or killing her after her character arc is the only way to go, though. Otherwise she gets her goal of being the center of attention and she stops being interesting.
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>>77899354
January and June look fantastic, a print set by the artist who did June of every >Enter Name bit for the kids would be dope. February looks good too but the scene makes zero sense.
May is alright up until Dave's face, which of course has to be the center of the shot. December looks passable too.
July is dogshit and October is another KC Green purposefully terrible thing. Calender looks MUCH better than last year's, which was 10/12ths dogshit.
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>>77898965
>that dreaded ship next to Katnep
>Tavros/Kanaya
>Karkat/Kanaya pale

What the fuck was Nepeta smoking?
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>>77900307
>stops being interesting
That's an understatement. This was probably one of the cringiest pages in the entire comic.
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>>77889598

are they supposed to be poc or tanned. is the story that jane is too busy eating during the summer?

>>77889706

whats the deal with that sb. sbahj is supposed to look funny, not like they have a mental illness.
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>>77900699
>cringey
>not laughing your ass off
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>>77900699
Definitely the lowest point of the comic. The good thing is that it can't get worse than that.
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>>77900699
that's pretty severe, but there's a lot cringier than that
even if we're talking about vriska specifically, that part where she spoke on hussie's behalf on how he feels about tattoos was one of the worst logs vriska has been in
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>>77900715
poc

>>77889598
I hate Homestuck girl shots so much. It's supposed to be feminist and progressive, but it comes off as conservative and "backward".
Shit like this or her poster "the ladies of homestuck" are not different from sexist shit like Barbie.
I'd complain about boy shots buts luckily nobody draws them.
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>>77900699
>Karkat will never blow her the fuck out with his capslock rant
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>>77901191
Did anything we were all looking forward to around the time of eoa5 actually happen?
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>>77901437
Nope.

The only thing you will get is Karkat giving Vriska a blowjob.

And then he proceeds to suck Dave's dick next.
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>>77901587
>The only thing you will get is Karkat giving Vriska a blowjob.

That's kind of hot.
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>>77889933
That looks like shit
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>>77901637
You know what else is hot?

Karkat's pre-retcon character development.
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>>77902790
Clearly we just need to rewrite Act 6.
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>maybe if I apply textures to my colors nobody will realize I have no talent!
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>>77902961
it's like how a bunch of artists use sai filters to make it look like it was drawn on paper
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>>77900678
Catnip

>>77900699
That part was hilarious, the only part of it I didn't like was that it was the end of her growing awareness of the narration, I was hoping that would end with a Vriska/Hussie bitchfight.
As it is now, I'm hopping that (Vriska) will show up again and do something to fuck someone over, probably Vriska, via narrator powers
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>>77903174
>Vriska in control of the narration
JesusChristHowHorrifying.jpg
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>>77902841
I feel like once Homestuck actually finishes, there should just be a project to rewrite the damn thing. Take out everything that's superfluous, rewrite things to be more consistent with future concepts, generally improve on aspects where Hussie straight-up fucked. I don't even mean "write an AU fic where Vriska never gets revived," I mean more along the lines of "restructure the plot so Vriska's revival feels more like a natural continuation of where things should go".
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>>77903174
>>77903196
>Eveyone's faces when Act 7 is narrated by Vriska
>EFW it's revealed midway through that alive Vriska and (Vriska) were both from doomed timelines and the one narrating is the alpha one
>EFW the last few panels of the comic reveal that real alpha Vriska has been in control since a bit before the retcon
>EFW Homestuck ends with her boasting about making the story all about her and getting away with it with no consequences
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>>77903533
So a fix fic?
Disgusting
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>>77903771
the fact a fix fic would even be considered says more about the comic than anything else
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>>77904233
It says nothing, >>77895332 is also a fix fic
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>>77904336
well yeah that pic is a fix fic, i don't see why that means it says nothing about the comic.
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>>77903196
Everything already reads like a fanfic she'd write, what with Vriskagram, her stealing everybody's shticks, ""solving"" every problem, showing how she's Totally A Master Strategist, bullying Jake in very front of his friends with impunity, and humiliating the version of her who developed in ways she doesn't approve of.

So it wouldn't change much.
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>>77887816
Save/Load
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>>77903749
THEN WHY THE FUCK DID SHE WASTE SCREENTIME FOR FUCKING KARKAT
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>>77905935
She finds his ennui funny
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>>77906100
>>77903196
>>77903749
>>77903533
>>77904654
Karkat and Vriska are the same person.

I don't know why you retards never figured that out.
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>>77904852

If Undertale is anything to go by, that turns out to be a little overpowered
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>>77893776
What? The comic has fixed characters, fixed planets and a fixed plot too. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the comic is the same for every reader.
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>>77869551
What isn't these days
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>>77906494
Of course it is. Shame the time players never tried to exploit their abilities to max.
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>>77906580
Dave abused time travel for a while though.
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Post cute Dave and/or Dirk pics!
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>you just can't make sburb!
people say this like they imagine a potential adaptation of the game to be some kind of 3D MMORPGs with every mechanic under the sun.
but seriously, you could make something like a terraria clone, with similar multiplayer and combat, except without the digging crap. that, and a lot of mechanics being simplified, of course. it'd work rather well.

(i was about to list some changes that would make the game humanly possible to create, but it got a little long. i can add post it if somebody's curious.)
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>>77904852
I'll let you in on the secret

gay niggers from outer space
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>>77906857
sure, go nuts, i want to see
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>>77879698
>Dave's feeling towards toxic masculinity and heteronormativity
Bullshit. Dave's spiel was about how shitty a parent Bro was. Bro could be Sis, hyper lesbian ninja and the conversation would be effectively the same

>What do you guys think
I think it belongs in the trash. Fans aren't fed up because of the update schedule, but because the writing took a fucking nosedive after Game Over
>>
so, when you think about it
game over really is the moment where homestuck became lost
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>>77907423
To be frank, it was literally when the rest of the characters we'd been following for years died permanently. So yeah. That was when the comic died.
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>>77907423
It became lost they moment the timeline was abandoned. I'd be okay with the deaths if they'd had proper resolution at some point.
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>>77907340
>Bullshit. Dave's spiel was about how shitty a parent Bro was. Bro could be Sis, hyper lesbian ninja and the conversation would be effectively the same
I think they meant his conversation with John, which felt like Hussie himself ranting.
I hate when Hussie talks through his characters.
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>>77907769
Oh, that

Fuck that.
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>I hate when Hussie talks through his characters.
he started doing that a bit with dirk instead, i forget the exact part but it was mixed in with all that bro abuse spiel
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>>77906770
He used timetables, not his own powers. So far what each played showed was

Dave - created ebubbles, Jade said he can timetravel
Aradia - trapped Jack in time for a brief moment
Damara - used psychic powers from a dreambubble to a (doomed) timeline, may be not related to the aspect
Caliborn - grants LE and Lil Cal always spawn in paradox space
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>>77906857
The part that makes Sburb impossible to make is the alchemy.

You can combine literally everything with literally everything else, it'd be a nightmare in game format.
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>>77907313
alright, content warning for me sperging out a bit.

list of ways to make a sburb game that isn't a multi billion dollar nightmare:
-restrict the number of possible prototypes to a small list, only code a few attacks for each. for example, 1 for earlygame enemies and the player's sprite, 1 for endgame enemies, 1 for the black king.
-don't use hand drawn animations for characters, that way your artists don't need to create 50 frames for every prototype of every underling.
-make your alchemy system combine pre-made shapes with pre-made textures, give objects specific tags like "is a sword" or "gives off light" or "could provide time travel abilities when alchemized" that have specific grist costs and are combined upon alchemy, && and || decides which of the ingredient's base type the resulting item inherits
-no need to fuck around with cruxite dowels. the alchemiter is fully upgraded from the beginning.
-exiles are just unnamed typing styles selected from a few, which give the players sidequests that require sendificating items and getting cool post-apocalypse themed stuff in return.
-major npcs could have dialogue, but the players or sprites' side should be narrated indirectly (the former for obvious reasons, the latter to not write 20 versions of every spritelog).
-scrap the following features entirely: session scratching (except as a fancy name for newgame+), and wacky impractical moduses (everybody gets a massive array sylladex).
-scrap the following features or work on them post-release: tier 2 prototyping and self-prototyping, pre-entry gameplay, exiling royalty to change who are the final boss(es).
-aspects are associated with status effects, classes with specific ability types, so that you don't have to code (12 * 12 * number of skills the average player should have) sburb powers
-time travel powers just call upon clones/attacks from the future and require the player to complete the loop shortly after or suffer consequences
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>>77908069
-scrap dream self resurrection and god tier resurrection, no permadeath by default
-dream selves get moon sidequests and are accessed when sleeping in player houses
-god tiering is done through finding a quest bed in your land/moon during the endgame, triggering some event that puts your character in a dying state, and making it to the bed without getting hit or running out of time
-the reckoning only happens during the black king final battle, it doesn't really have any sort of impact (save for the meteor kind).

feel free to throw some criticism or eventual problems my way, this is pretty fun to think about.
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>>77908069
>restrict: the post
Thats what we mean with "Overseer is text based and yet feels 10% of what a sburb game could be."
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>>77908060
they could get around that with a smaller number of base items, maybe have it be a combinations of three hexadecimal characters for the captcha and call it microCaptcha or something
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>>77908069
Cruxite dowels would be easy to implement

>time travel powers just call upon clones/attacks from the future and require the player to complete the loop shortly after or suffer consequences
This on the other hand would be a complete nightmare to implement, not to mention awful as a gameplay mechanic.
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>>77901437
Bro-Dave and Mom-Rose resolution I guess.
The first happened and it was satisfying, right up until the end.
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weird that this is the only part that feels like hussie's making it all up as he goes along. just including the latest events

like, he's figuring out he can have an actual plot moment with tavros not long before it happens
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>>77908069
>Cruxite dowels would be easy to implement
of course, but would they be fun? is it fun hauling around multiple colored cylinders from your cruxtruder to the totem lathe, and then to the alchemiter? well, if that's your definition or fun, i won't judge you, but i do think it would make for a VERY shitty mechanic.

>This on the other hand would be a complete nightmare to implement
meh, create a copy of the player with basic IA that automatically attacks stuff and warps out after a while or when low on health. as long as you don't make player characters completely different from NPCs, shouldn't be too hard.

>not to mention awful as a gameplay mechanic.
how so? extra assistance from a clone doesn't sound too bad when it comes to the fun factor, and it's a risk/reward thing. either you use the ability to get help and kill off your enemies, then safely go back in time, or you can't find the opportunity to travel away, and some "doomed" status effect makes you easy to off (that's what happens when your timeline falls apart,)

>>77908133
overseer is limited in a lot of ways (loads and loads of features that are either unfinished or bring nothing to the game, real-time cooldowns on actions, and a progression system that involves selecting a popular strife specibus and guessing how to recreate pre-existing items), but otherwise it's a more than decent attempt at making something SBURB-inspired.

if you want to play a version of the game where you can go grimdark, hijack a derse ship and crash it into the battlefield, seduce your denizen, bring a dying friend to their quest bed or otherwise do all the things that would take nigh infinite money, a massive devteam and major headaches for the gameplay to be vaguely coherent, try to find a roleplay group.
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>>77908741
I think with a large enough inventory the dowels would be okay, so long as it's something the player progresses out of. Maybe it's just because I'm fond of crafting systems which don't involve the player just pressing the magic Craft button.

For the time travel clone I see your point now, I assumed you had imagined a much more complicated version which would involve the player going back and actually re-enacting what the clone did when you summoned it.
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