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Jessica is moping around town and being a smartass when she runs into Captain America and insults him by calling him a "jackbooted jingoistic flag waving stooge." Cap, having had enough BS listening to Tony that day, snaps.

Who wins in a fight between these two?
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>>77830520
You can't be serious.

What, is she gonna kind of shove him and then run away hoping to stumble across a shotgun or something? Jessica's action scenes looked like shit for a reason, bitch can't fight.

Even if Cap was missing his shield and one of his arms, he could still kick her ass.
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>>77830592

I am serious. She stopped a moving vehicle with her hand and lifted up the rear end of a car. He's strong for a human and can fight but he can't withstand that kind of strength.
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>>77830643
Cap stops a fuCKING HELICOPTER with his hand in the Civil War trailer
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>>77830643
Oh wow, if only Cap had done something equivalent of lifting a moving vehicle, or better yet, throwing it maybe! Wouldn't that be a twist?

Maybe a cap that could throw a moving vehicle could stand up to her. But as we all know from the first movie, he can only hold a motorcycle with five passengers over his head, not throw one mid-drive at a humvee or something.
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>>77830520
Literally one shield bash is all it would take to drop Jessica.
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>>77830520

Captain America, because he has a penis
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>>77830643

Cap has training. Jessica is just some chick who got superpowers by coincidence, she has absolutely no idea how to use them effectively.

Cap's not that much weaker and his skill easily closes the power gap.
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>>77830592
>Even if Cap was missing his shield and one of his arms, he could still kick her ass.
I agree, Bucky would kick Jessica's ass.
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Better question - Cap + Bucky vs. JJ & Luke Cage?
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>>77830813
Cap ALONE could solo them both no problem and you want to add in Bucky into that? That's just cruel man.
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>>77830813

Luke Cage solos all of them.
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>>77830813
Cap Bucky
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>>77830520
Considering she couldn't handle Nuke while injured I can't see her being a problem for Cap.
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>>77830721
Captain America would never dickslap someone into submission, not even on his worst day.
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>>77830858

He wouldn't need to.

He'd just pull it out and she'd fall to her knees in worship.
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>>77830760
Why did this post make me want to see Cap training JJ and the two of them falling in love.

Maybe so Trish walks in on them doing it and thinks it's Nuke raping her and shoots him.

Yeah, I know she prefers the BBC
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>>77830813
Either Bucky or cap could solo both of them
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>>77830520
Avenger vs failure, you choose...
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>>77830939

Nah, last time I checked they can't hurt a guy who is bomb proof and only gets a headache when shot in the head with a boomstick
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This thread just makes me want Iron Fist to be out now!

Why the fuck couldnt Netflix do Heroes for Hire before Jessica Jones?
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>>77830965
>only gets a headache

gonna have to do better than that for bait, m8.
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>>77830845
MCU versions?

Cap can probably hit harder than a shotgun blast, give him the shield and Luke is fucked.

We know from TWS that Bucky's arm is stronger than Cap so if anything at least that will hit Luke hard enough to do damage organ.

JJ ruined Luke with that shotgun thing, even a heavy weight boxer hits harder than that.
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>>77830905
Purple heads are probably the last thing she'd worship.
Or they would be, if the Purple Man had actually been purple.
Damned realistic adaptions, ruining my already-weaksauce comebacks.
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>>77831087
>JJ ruined Luke with that shotgun thing, even a heavy weight boxer hits harder than that.

Ahaha, sure thing bud. I love watching boxing to see peoples' heads and torsos explode.
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>>77830965

Iron Man got shot with a tank cannon in his first movie and only suffered minor scratches, but guess what, Cap and Bucky are kicking his ass in the new trailer
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>>77831245
>Cap and Bucky are kicking his ass in the new trailer

He's intentionally jobbing to them because he doesn't want to kill them.
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>>77830643

According to AoS, Cap is strong enough to shove a bulldozer across a football field.
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>>77831315
then why is he feebly flailing around trying to hit them with repulsor blasts?
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>>77831318

what?
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>>77831361
nobody here has seen the movie.

You sound as if you are not aware those fights happens as part of a narration and in certain context.
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>>77831409

Really, you're going to call me out for using an out-of-context shot when >>77831315 was just pulling unsubstantiated shit out of his ass?
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>>77831164
Recoil
Newton's Third Law
Surface area
Unbreakable skin
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>>77831318
>According to AoS, Cap is strong enough to shove a bulldozer across a football field.

So? Normal people can pull airplanes that weigh 500 tons.
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>>77831531
>normal
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>>77831388

When Peterson is training he's shoving a bulldozer across a field. He does it realtively speedily but is told he's not even close to Cap's record on that training exercise.
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>>77830643

Captain Clap frequently defeats villains whose super-strength exceeds his own. skill means a lot.
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>>77831627
>villains whose super-strength exceeds his own

such as Iron Man
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>>77830813
Get rid of Jess.
Cap, Bucky, and Cage. Who gets spitroasted?
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>Jessica Jones
>"hero" who gets KO'd by normal woman with a wooden plank
>fighting a highly skilled soldier wielding a vibranium shield that can destroy aircraft

o i am laffing
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>>77831665

Bucky for sure
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>>77830520
Cap - way more experienced and far better trained.

Plus he's lost his temper to the point of a fucking public violent meltdown? Yeah, Tony would be fucking worried. Hell, Thor (sans hammer) would have trouble.
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>>77831665
I don't see why they wouldn't fuck up Cage given a shotgun to the skull put him down and Bucky has a rocket launcher.
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>>77830643
>weightlifters always win fights

Do you even kung fu?
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>>77831730
>Stark
Yeah.
>Thor
Not even in Steve's best day.
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>>77830520
I don't know, but I bet it ends in drunken butt-fucking
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>>77831696

>Captain America
>destroyed an aircraft with his shield
>destroyed a Humvee by throwing a motorcycle at it
>fought Ultron 1-on-1 while car surfing
>jumps out of planes with no parachute

vs

>Jessica "loses a fight if a normal person sucker punches her" Jones
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>>77831563
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>77831869
I wonder if Cap was a robot.
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>>77831164
The upper end of recorded punch force for boxers is comparable to a 12ga shotgun, the average is about half. The primary difference is that a human hand is a large, soft, deformable object while a 12ga shot shell is 1.33oz of lead.
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Cap + Bucky vs Jessica + Luke + Daredevil
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>>77832630

DD solos the more abled Cap and Bucky
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>>77832630
I'd still give it to Cap + Bucky for their experience and because they're used to fighting in tandem. They're way more brutal of fighters and both highly trained super soldiers. It really isn't fair, even against three.
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>>77830695
but he looked like he was putting almost all his effort into it
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>people thinking jessica could beat cap
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>>77830520
Jessica's durability is inconsistent she gets ko'd in one hit by some bitch with a 2x4 and then she gets hit by a mack truck going at least 40mph and her ribs are cracked. We know she has a minor healing factor but her durability is pretty close to human compared to cap. cap has better feats and is a better fighter even without his shield. Jessica can't fight for shit cap takes this 10/10
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>>77832843
Daredevil has prep-time.
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This thread is retarded.

Better question- Jessica vs Daredevil.

Superstrength vs actual skill.
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>>77836144
Can't he just avoid her punches?
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>>77836267
Yeah I don't see her ever getting a hit in.
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>>77836267
Yeah, I don't see her landing a shot. And if she does, Matt can probably take one or two.

Fuck, is she gonna be useful at all in Defenders?
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>>77830520
They fuck. Forever.
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>>77836327
There needs to be fanart of this... forever.
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>>77831780
Poor Cap.
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Cap could and would beat Jessica and here's how he could do it:
• He could simply outlast her in a fight because he has superhuman dexterity and endurance
• He could quickly and handily beat her in hand-to-hand combat with his superior skils and techniques. Considering he KO's trained martial artists really quick on the reg-- Jess doesn't have the skills to react well enough to him.

A matchup I'd be more interested in is MCU Cap vs MCU Luke Cage
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Am I only the only person that thinks the show Jessica Jones was terribly written?

-She lifts the rear end of a car like it's nothing but she has trouble controlling a 90 pound girl? or pulling herself up over a rail? That's not how Jessica Jones powers work.

-The lawyer on the show says they need people to build a case against Kilgrave (The villain). And they conveniently forget about an entire restaurant of people he JUST controlled with his powers?

-Really she could have taken him out and stopped him episode 3, but of course shitty writing.

-80% of this show consist of women arguing with each other or not saying what they mean.

- here is a difference between being tough and misunderstood, and a being rude asshole. The main character portrayed here is just an asshole.

-How did her drug junkie neighbor take super high quality spy photographs of her? The surveillance footage of him doesn't show any sort of camera capable of taking those sort of pictures when he's "caught" doing it. you'd need a pretty large DSLR with a pretty probably a telephoto lens and large aperture. It'd be heavy and wouldn't fit inside the type of clothing he was wearing. Also to take photos with that kind of clarity in the dark you'd need a tripod.

-Episdode 7 when kilgrave controls a whole police station? How does Jessica Jones the P.I. not know that the type of footage Kilgrave had deleted is SUPER easily recoverable. Isn't that all she needs to build a case? Photo evidence?

-Not even gonna start on all the retarded cell phone recording shit. This show does the whole "inner turmoil of hero" trope worse than I've ever seen.

-Any part that was remotely interesting was something lifting and adapted from the comic ALIAS.

-Jessica takes until the end to do what we all know she was going to do anyway, despite having tons of chances already. So why did it take so long? They made the character incompetent for the sake furthering the story. Gross.

Insert needless sex scenes ad infinitum.
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>>77836405
Cage would have an opening since people know Cap and his appoximate power level but no one knows about Luke.

He'd really have to make it count since Cap would figure things out pretty quick and just choke him out.
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>>77836314
Sure.

I'm sure there are going to be plenty of mooks for her to shove in shakeycam shots.

And hey, someone has to keep the teams dicks warm.
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>>77836412
Go back to your thread no one is paying attention to.
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>>77836458
>not Charlie Cox
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>>77836453
Choking him out actually makes the most sense. MCU hasn't fully established the upper limits of Cage's dexterity. Yeah he got knocked unconscious because of a point black shotgun blast to the face (I feel like only the Hulk could walk away from that one), but he also wasn't phased at all by being in the middle of a building explosion.
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>>77836545
I could be wrong, but I don't think open gasoline explosions have much concussive force.
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>>77836293
>Yeah I don't see her ever getting a hit in.

Neither does Matt
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>>77836614
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>>77836453
Or just punch him in the head and cause brain damage like the shotgun
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>>77831730
>Plus he's lost his temper to the point of a fucking public violent meltdown? Yeah, Tony would be fucking worried. Hell, Thor (sans hammer) would have trouble
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>>77830520
Does Cap have his shield? He wins without so much as a bruise in like 2 seconds.

Without his shield? He still wins, but with some broken ribs from an inevitable lucky shot.
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>>77831730
>Hell, Thor (sans hammer) would have trouble.
That's like saying the Hulk would have trouble with Steve.
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>>77836412

-She didn't want to hurt her.

-A bunch of people claiming they were mind-controlled after another person publically claimed to be is not evidence that will be taken seriously in court.

-They spell it out for even the dumbrst viewers in the scene itself: She wants to prove Hope innocent.
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>>77836886
>>77836811
you guys know sans means without so cap would just have to dodge thor for 60 seconds until he turns mortal again
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>>77836962
That's not how it works in the MCU. There have already been scenes where Thor was without his hammer for minutes.
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>>77836962
Hat's not at all how anything works you fucking retard.
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>>77830520
>"jackbooted jingoistic flag waving stooge."

Man, is she really THIS much of a cunt?
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>>77837111
Nah. She's only cunty to people who are cunty first. She's even patient and understanding to the screeching incest girl who accuses her of stealing her brother/bf.
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>>77830520

Wth? Pretty sure Captain America wins in record time. Why would you think it would be an even fight?
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>>77837387
>She's even patient and understanding to the screeching incest girl who accuses her of stealing her brother/bf.

Wut? That sounds fucking hilarious
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>>77837420
She hasn't really raised her voice at the cunt and just took what she said while making a short snark in returns.
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>>77836962
>dodge thor for 60 seconds until he turns mortal again
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>>77831780
>implying Cap would touch that drunken whore
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>>77831759

...I don't think you know what 'spitroasted' means.
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>>77830520
Cap snapping is literally him going over and giving him a piece of her mind.

Though if there was a fight I'd bet on Cap, she might be stronger but he's way, way more skilled.

I'm actually pretty disappointed that Cap hasn't had a fight yet with a enemy who is physically clearly superior and come out of it as the victor.
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>>77837420
It's not, for all the talk of incest it really is mostly just a sister forced to live with her autistic manchild brother because no one else is there to take care of him.
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>>77830520
Cap would destroy Jessica.
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>>77836144
Jess just goes for lazy grabs and swings, she isn't trained to fight at all.

I guess if she got the drop on him, but he's fucking Daredevil. He can probably hear that she's got superpowers in her blood or some shit.
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>>77830520
>thinking a slut has any chance
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>>77831531
That is not a "normal" human. That is someone at the peak of their ability. That is someone who has trained years and years.
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>>77830789
>KEK!
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>>77837484
>"Listen Jessica, I just want to apologize. We got off on the wrong foot, so let's start again. Hi, I'm Steve."
>"HI STEVE, WANNA FUCK MY BUTT?"
>"W-what? what are you... My god, are you drunk?"
>"Yuh-huh"
>"I fucking century, I swear to God."
>"I'm not hearing a noooooo...."
>"I'm leaving. I miss the good old days where you at least had to buy a girl a drink and take her dancing before you got to sodomize her"
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>>77836412

I... wow.

Ladies and gentlemen, /co/.


>Any part that was remotely interesting was something lifting and adapted from the comic ALIAS.

I literally cannot wrap my head around this 'criticism', especially. The 'most of the show is women arguing' is asinine, but it's a point of view I'm at least familiar with. But 'the adaptation uses the source material well' as a mark against it? I... I have no words. None.
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>>77837608
>implying Cap ever sodomized anyone in the good old days

My husbando is pure, anon.
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>>77836412

>When you try to sound smart but end up sounding dumb instead
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>>77836947
-If she didn't want to hurt her, her great strength should make controlling the situation easy. Her strength isn't an ON OFF thing.

-Yeah, but calling forward a bunch of street randoms to give their kilgrave stories is acceptable to build witnesses?

-We all know that's what she wants, but anyone that watches tv knows that girl is dead. My tripe is with the fact that they made the character incompetent enough to think that was even an option.
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I have a really hard time reconciling that Jessica Jones takes place in a world where Captain America is like 20 blocks over from this shit.
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>>77837625
He didn't, but I'm sure he heard from the other soldiers the standard practice for how to get some tunnel shoveling
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>>77837649
I have a really hard time reconciling that I'm at a party while a few floors down someone might be getting raped, anon.

The world doesn't have one tone, anon.
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>>77837608

>Implying Steve wouldn't fall to desperation and make the biggest mistake of his life

Trust me, it happens.
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>>77837648

>My tripe is

Pretty much your whole argument?
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>>77837518
>Cap snapping is literally him going over and giving him a piece of her mind.
Now I want to see Jess try to pick a fight with Cap and he gives her a stern talking to instead.
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>>77837677
If you're at a party where a few floors down someone is getting raped it isn't a fucking children's party with pin the tail on the donkey and schwarma.
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>>77837648

>anyone that watches tv knows that girl is dead.

Holy shit, you're *literally arguing* that meta knowledge from watching this kind of media is the kind of thing the people within the media should be aware of. You're actually saying 'Jessica Jones should know she's in a TV show and should thus assume Hope will die and thus give up completely'. That's literally the argument you're making. You're incredible.
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>>77837717
Yeah, but a children's party and a sex dungeon could happen on the same street, anon.

Doesn't mean you have to take your kids to both. One is for adults only, see?
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>>77837717

...yes it could be? What? That's kind of a nonsensical statement to make. Of course it could be. Why couldn't it be?

>>77837704

That does sound an awful lot like Cap.
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>>77837747
I'm picking up your meaning. I have trouble reconciling all this horrible fallout from the Avengers saving NYC though, really.

I mean apparently hundreds of thousands died while Iron Man was making party jokes and chit-chatting with Loki in his penthouse.

It paints a pretty poor picture of our heroes.
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I like JJ as a character a hell of a lot more than Cap but this is ridiculous, Cap in a curbstomp. Bitch isn't trained.

Maybe if she trained hardcore for a looong time she'd have a shot.
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>>77837785

New York city was attacked by an alien horde from another dimension and is populated by millions. Hundreds of thousands dying is kind of unavoidable.

Tony is a right cunt, though, and I don't think anyone's thought otherwise for a very long time. A charming cunt, sure, but still a cunt.
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>>77831531
Love the look on his face
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>>77837704

How would that go? Would Cap touch her with his unrelenting and brutal honesty or will Jess will simply hand wave it?
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>>77837817
She'd probably be touched by it but not want to admit it, probably get drunk and surly because he called her out on her shit and she can't bring herself to fix herself
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>>77837806
Yeah they did the best they could. It's more all the snappy quips and jokes they did while hundreds of thousands died around them that paints a poor picture.
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cpt
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>>77837817

The problem with that approach is that it assumes that JJ thinks she's a good person, which is a weird thing to assume since she repeatedly, explicitly and consistently states the opposite. It's the assumption that shitty people don't know what they're doing and that, if they knew, they would change. They often do know they're shitty and just can't, won't or don't, and that's what *makes them shitty*. That's the whole point. Jessica Jones isn't a super hero. She tries sometimes, and fails most of the time, and mostly just gets drunk because fuck everything. Her 'win' was snapping Killgrave's neck. The world isn't any different now. Her family is still dead (and she still blames herself for it), people are still shitty and, ultimately, she's convinced she's not that useful or good because, in a lot of ways, she *isn't*. She's not a cheerful, upbeat character or some struggling victim with a golden heart trying to win her way through the worlds depredations. She's an asshole drunk with super powers who beats herself up every day because she 'knows' she's not good enough to do anything useful with those powers. Killing Kilgrave is the first good thing she thinks she's done, so maybe she'll be better now? But fuck, she's been such a complete fuckup her entire life up to this point, why would one little thing change any of that, right?
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>>77830520
Jessica got beat in one hit by a psychotic little redhead with normal strength and a wooden beam. She's shit at fighting and can only bully normies.
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>>77830520
Cap would win mainly because of sheer skill and experience. Jessica has shit all experience or skill, but if it came down to a test of pure strength, I'm guessing she'd win. Otherwise, Cap.
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>>77837956
Her bullshit is a good poster child for why there needs to be a metahuman registration act.
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I feel like I watched Captain America speedrun a real life game of counterstrike against highly trained mercenaries in the first ten minutes of Cap 2.

Jessica Jones struggled to beat up a well to do family in a penthouse apartment.
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>>77838981
This
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>>77838981
I think Luke Cage is the first person where she actually had to fight with some semblance of skill. The rest was just her throwing her weight around trying not to kill anybody.
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Whedon Cap will get slapped around in a brawl while making quips about his physical inadequacy before Hulk/Thor/Tony drops in to punt Jess's cunt into orbit.

Russo Cap will martial arts her to sleep in 5 seconds.
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>>77839416
>Whedon Cap will get slapped around in a brawl
Dude, Cap in AoU was OP.
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>>77830520
One has military training and years of using it.
The other has no idea how to fight.
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>>77830712
Not to mention his motorcycle toss rips the front of the humvee clean in half and launches the passengers of the humvee out of it.
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>>77839476
>WhedonCap can match Ultron in cqc

Jessica has no chance
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Captain America vs Anyone.
Cap wins. He's the perfect human.
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>>77830965
Captain America is stronger than jessica jones, who is herself strong enough to crush internal organs through blunt force trauma alone. Impenetrable skin is an absolute non factor against Cap. Even if somehow luke had shock absorbing skin, he could never land a solid effective blow on cap.
If cap had his shield then this would be a total stomp
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>>77832630
Daredevil makes it a show but he just doesnt have the power to take down either of his opponents. His partners would go down pretty quickly.
Maybe if DD got sufficient time to train Jessica and Luke how to fight these two then maybe they would have a shot but its a stretch.
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>>77836618
I am not looking forward to the inevitable crossover fight.
SJW's are gonna flip if jessica doesnt win so the writers are gonna have to force a shitty fight where DD gets btfo and it will be awful.
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>>77832925
A helicopter is a good deal fucking heavier than a car
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>>77836314
Jessica's a pretty decent detective and she doesn't need to be a superb fighter to take on most street mooks.

Is she Daredevil or Iron Fist? No. But she doesn't need to be.
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>>77837928
A big chunk of JJ's problem is unrelenting self-pity. She needs therapy and considering how expensive it is to drink at a bar these days, it'd probably cheaper than being a drunk. It's my experience that people who state they're a bad or shitty person are just making justifications.
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>>77841557
That's just inconsistent writing though. Cap is canonically supposed to have "peak human" strength. He doesn't have superhuman strength, Jessica does.
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>>77841963

Not this shit again.
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No one. Fighting isn't the answer OP :(
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>>77830838
Eh, Luke would be a pretty good challenge to Cap, that fight could definitely go either way.
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>>77837747
>Yeah, but a children's party and a sex dungeon could happen on the same street, anon.
>Doesn't mean you have to take your kids to both. One is for adults only, see?
Kids those days cease to see the difference, especially once they get to middle high and suddenly thinks they are in high school and adults.
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>>77841963
Another coin another lap! You can't leave Mr. Skeleton's fun ride!
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>>77831791
huh i guess having an unbreakable shield that lets you ignore the laws of physics is pretty useful.
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>>77830520
>Cap
>Snapping

Flawed thread from the onset.
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>>77830520

Jessica Jones tv series > The 2 Cap movies

Jessica wins.
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Jessica almost got taken out by some middle-aged housewife shoulder checking her. Cap would destroy her no problem.
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>>77831508
Superman
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>>77836545
Not undermining what you said about Luke and the shotgun, but Sif takes a blast to the face in a SHIELD episode and doesn't even flinch, so we know there's some other characters that could shrug it off.

Now I want to see Sif and Jessica be drinking bitches complaining about Thor and Luke.
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>>77830520
Cap. The only way she could possibly win is if he underestimate her so much as to willingly take a punch to the head.
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>>77843567
>how to make a post that has nothing to do with the thread
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>>77830643
In the opening sequence of AoU, he fucking hurls a motorcycle over his head several meters like it was nothing.
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>>77845264
Though, really, that'd be impossible no matter how strong he was. That would require him suddenly becoming heavier than the bike.
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>>77844549
I-it's an All-Star Superman reference.
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>>77830520
>Cap, having had enough BS listening to Tony that day, snaps.

>implying Cap wouldn't just say he disagrees with her opinion but respects her right to hold it and then walk away like the bigger man that he is
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>>77845364
oh
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>>77841963
>cap maxes out at peak human.

Is this based on some golden age bullshit. Some indexed example of dialogue from 1944 or some shit.

We've all read enough captain America over the years to know that he's way beyond a normal humans peak physical ability.
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This retarded post comes up every day. And every day Captain American beats Jessica's face in.
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>>77841632
>Jessica's a pretty decent detective

She most certainly is not, she literally just randomly stumbles upon or happens to know the perfect person to hand her literally every piece of evidence or information, and her own ability to connect the dots is tenuous for a normal person, sub par for a good detective. Even Matt is far better than her in this regard.
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Jessica only has strength, she doesn't have skill and her endurance isn't unmanageable. She can still get knocked on her ass and be knocked out. Not only do I see Cap winning the fight, but Widow and Hawkeye as well. I don't even think Jessica could take Daredevil in a fight, or hell, Stick. Hell in Agents of Shield we've seen May and Coulson overcome people with super strength before so I'd bet on them as well. Being super strong only means so much when you fight like an idiot.

The only characters Jess could really take are like Fisk who also just relies on being big and strong.
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>>77848005
No she actually is a good detective. The reality is that real detective work is boring. When Hope goes missing, she just visits and talks to people, finds out what she can, makes conclusions, repeats until finished. Just because she's not pulling fingerprints out of the air doesn't mean she's not a good detective. In fact, she clearly has a lot of skill for getting information out of people through even non-violent means.
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>>77836267
>>77836293
>>77836314
didn't daredevil get the shit kicked out of him multiple times in the show? they made more of a theme of him being able to take hits than dodge them. but how able would he be to take a punch from jessica?
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>>77837928
People admitting to being a shitty person is rank narcissism. Admission of surface issues is an easy way to avoid real change in who you are as a person.
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>>77852070

I don;t think you know what Narcissism is m8
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>>77852193
oh don't I?
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/11/a_generational_pathology.html
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>>77850180
Pretty much everyone he fought one on one that landed a punch on him were either trained assassins or, in the case of the one who actually almost beat him, a mystical ninja with decades of training.

Oh and Sticks.
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>-80% of this show consist of women not saying what they mean.

That's how women talk though
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>>77852575

I don't think you do. You link a blog post written by someone who starts out arguing with a strawman and ends up defining narcissism with a bunch of shit like spending too much time on Facebook and being overly materialistic, which I could kind of agree with, but nothing in that article really applies to Jessica Jones or your original point that calling yourself a bad person is a type of Narcissism.
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>>77852981
"The mistake is in thinking that misery and self-loathing are the "bad" things you are trying to get away from with Ambien and Abilify or drinking or therapy or whatever, but you have this completely backwards. Self-loathing is the defense against change, self-loathing is preferable to <mental work.> You choose misery so that nothing changes, and the Ambien and the drinking and the therapy placate the misery so that you can go on not changing. That's why when you look in the mirror and don't like what you see, you don't immediately crank out 30 pushups, you open a bag of chips. You don't even try, you only plan to try. The appearance of mental work, aka masturbation. "
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>>77853344

That's not in the blog post you linked, faggot
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>>77830520
Steve's basically a pit bull without a leash when he fights.
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>>77848005
I thought she did a lot of really smart things while investigating. She's a pretty great detective. Doesn't mean she would beat Cap, though. Like people said, she needs training in how to fight.
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>>77831531
I don't think you know what the difference between a bulldozer and a plane. Planes have free moving wheels, bulldozers have caterpillar crawlers that lock in place.
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>>77836327

She doesn't like LWC though, only dat BBC
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>>77855381
>Cap's WC
>L
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>>77836545
>Yeah he got knocked unconscious because of a point black shotgun blast to the face (I feel like only the Hulk could walk away from that one),

Wolverine has tanked worse than that and isn't knocked unconscious by it
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>>77837111
>Man, is she really THIS much of a cunt?

It's exactly the sort of thing a millennial commie SJW type would scream out
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>>77839063
And I believe she spent most of that fight hiding and getting her ass kicked. It was implied earlier that she was stronger, but then Killgrave forces him to go all out, and we see she's not even in his league.
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>>77845329

>this plebe can't control his gravatrons
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>>77856122

she's stronger but he's near invincible so she can't hurt him. But she's nowhere near invincible so he can hurt her. that's the way I interpreted it anyway.
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>>77856213
No, we literally see him pushing her back with sheer strength when they fight. Also, he's hardly invincible. He's only got unbreakable skin. Imagine if all of his skin was a bulletproof vest. If you've ever wore one of those and got shot, you'd know it still hurts like hell. Not to mention that still does nothing for internal injuries. Really, his skin is only helpful against firearms and bladed weapons. Against blunt force trauma, it only makes him tougher.
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>>77847940
My favorite super hero is Captain American. I like him better than Superiorman and Spidersman.
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>>77856700

There's clearly more to his invulnerability than just the skin. He gets hit with blunt objects in the bar fight and doesn't give a fuck. And in a push contest, wouldn't the winner have more to do with who weighs more than who was stronger?
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>>77830520
Jess wouldn't insult Cap to that extreme.
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>>77830520
cap obviously come on

could jessica even land a hit on him? we know she can be knocked out so if cap has his shield there is literally zero chance she could win, without shield its up to caps mistake.
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>>77857183

You didn't watch the show did you? At the end she literraly deletes hundreds of messages from people asking her help.
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>>77857151
>And in a push contest, wouldn't the winner have more to do with who weighs more than who was stronger?

Normally I'd argue yes, but super strength that isn't indicated by muscle mass kinda throws that out of the window.
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>>77830520

If Cap is aware of her strength, he wins.

The only way he could lose is by being completely ignorant of her power level and being too good a sport, allowing a "freebie". Then he gets knocked the fuck out.

But the guy solo'd Ultron.

She can't handle a couple of armed guys Steve wouldn't even wipe his ass with.
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>>77857244
>she literraly deletes hundreds of messages
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>>77836614
>don't think open gasoline explosions have much concussive force
>don't think open gasoline explosions have much force
>don't think explosions have much force
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>>77859108

Open gasoline explosions don't have much force. They go up in a big fireball but lack the power of dynamite or military grade explosives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IcHUHRf_S0
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>>77859108
Pretty sure there's a thing about pressure behind an explosion. A mortar has more concussive force because it's gunpowder compacted tightly in an enclosed space that explodes with enough force to shatter the metal casing. A Gasoline explosion like that wasn't compressed and glass offers almost no resistance. Though I admit, I could be pants-on-head wrong.
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>>77836453
Oh yeah, cap fought a man with equal strength AND a super bionic arm. He just put him in a choke hold when he got over his confusion and sympathy. He could take other superhumans just as easy, he runs into trouble with gods and nuclear monsters
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>>77848262
>The reality is that real detective work is boring
So is law but Daredevil at least made it compelling and look important. But then, Daredevil was good.
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Oh come on this isn't even a contest. JJ has no training, beyond her super strength which is barely above Capts level, probably on level of Bucky's cyber arm. She's good at pushing around normies. In a real fight she gets her ass handed to her.

Luke Cage has greater strength and actual super toughness. Even he wouldn't last that very long vs Capt. Remember both these folks have no training beyond brawling.

DD would wipe the floor with them. Now if you have Bucky + Cap vs Defenders. That could actually be a fair fight. Luke, JJ, and Misty are heavy hitters. DD & IF are the skilled fighters.

In the end I think Capt & Bucky who between the two them have peak-low grade superhuman abilities with years and years of combat experience.
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>>77830520
MCU Steve is too nice. He'd want to talk to her about what's been bothering her.

Steve: As you can probably tell from the news, things haven't been so great for me either. But if you need to talk to someone, well, I've been told I'm a great listener. There's this great juice bar down the street we could go to that-.
Jessica: A juice bar? What's wrong with a regular one? I know a guy who owns a place.
Steve: Well, health issues aside, I can't actually get drunk.
Jessica: Really now? (grabs him by the arm)

(later)

Jessica: (drunk on the floor, to a still very sober Steve) Fuck you.
Steve: Another whiskey, please.
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>>77857476
Strength and weight are still independent of each other. Jessica can hit hard but she weighs normal, so she could still be pushed around as easily unless she anchored herself properly.
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>>77860712
>Well, health issues aside
Are you implying Cap doesn't drink?
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>>77860854
Of course he dies. He's just doubtful it's what Jessica needs at the moment.
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>>77847859

I feel like that was the initial explanation. Like that was the intended purpose of the super soldier serum 'we turn anyone into a peak olympic quality human'. But the main scientist dies and the lab explodes, the only guy with any understanding about how the serum works is dead. Cap starts out meeting those criterea and no one changes that definition. The he 'dies' stopping a rocket.

I don't know many olympic athletes who can survive for 50 years without air in subzero waters. My theory is that as time goes on the serum gets stronger, making Steve stronger, over time. This tracks with the movies.

>Cap1: Pretty athletic, can knock out normal guys with a punch, lift motorcycles, struggles to jump across a burning factory, can block bullets easily but gets knocked across rooms blocking heavy energy weapons with the shield.

>Avengers: Dodges lasers, takes a point blank alien grenade, can sever limbs with his shield, knocks out aliens with a single strike, can go toe to toe with casual Loki, needs a chute, blocks full on Thor hammer and alien lasers with the hammer.

>Cap2: Multiple jumps down skyscrapers, knocks a jet out of the sky, lifts a massive girder weighing tons, survives a bunker buster with a few scratches by blocking it with his shield, 'I don't need a fucking chute'.

>Avengers2: Fastballs a mortorcycle like the hulk, solos the apex vibranium eight foot tall killer robot made of guns and knives while balancing on a flying truck, blocks everything, immune to language.
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>>77863051
>solos the apex vibranium eight foot tall killer robot made of guns and knives while balancing on a flying truck

I love that that scene is just as awesome as you described it.
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>>77837785
Then the netflix shows are meeting their goals: Showing you that the same corrupt day to day shit doesn't stop just because aliens are real and humans can fly.

>>77841963
And JJ can fly yet here we are.
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