K6BD thread? New page is up. In retrospect it was really broadcasted

noooo why did he become a sexy little imp I don't want to fap to him!

>>77767668
>him
Demons dude let's not forget they can switch on the spot.......

>>77767550
Princess Mamoru Moonshine Jagermeister Jack Jacck Daniels Timothy Tim Bill Freddy Mercury Blueberry Luna Esquire

PMMJJJDTTBFMBLE has got it bad.

>Ebon devil of unrivaled power

CioCio had it even worse, by the sounds of it.

>Cio's final form looks sort of like the evil troll queen in Homestuck
pls no.

>>77767703
Either of the last two seem like possible answers, I guess we'll find out in time.

>>77767550
>tfw had a thread with an actual subject and the alt text in the OP

oh well, duplicate file.

in more important news, Vladok is now a cute Blueberry Luna.

>Yes, her full name is in fact now Princess Mamoru Moonshine Jagermeister Jack Jack Daniels Timothy Tim Bill Freddy Mercury Blueberry Luna, Esquire
>her
So uh, I guess Vladok is a she now? Or was Vladok always a she? If he became a she, then why? Are all blue devils she's? Or is it because the name that Allison (we) gave her starts with "princess"?

>>77767726
>Cio's final form looks sort of like the evil troll queen in Homestuck
KSBD DID begin as an MSPAF

>>77767550
>Oh my goooood.
Too cute.

And it seems we've discovered another one of Abbadon's secret fetishes; male-to-female transformations. Who knows what other elderly man he'll turn into a spunky teenage girl next.

>>77767703
Masks decide a devil's personality.

>>77767746
>>77767730
Masks decide a devil's personality, SO it would make sense that it would change their form accordingly. Is what I meant.

We saw that with Oscar, actually, in the original forum adventure when he turned himself into a titty monster.

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>>77767668
I feel like this's going to turn into a harem manga senpi!

>>77767746
Well, the Key of Kings IS a Venus symbol.

>>77767550
>blushing in embarrassment in the 4th to the last panel
Damn you, Abbadon! What a land of debauchery you are leading us to!

>>77767777

Nice.

>>77767550
Vladok is now on the same level as Cio.
Why do I feel like they are are going to become guildenstern and rosencrantz of this story?

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>>77767550
>>77767668
>>77767717
>>77767730
>>77767800
>>77767915
I did this, I got the Princess name in!
I'm culprit for helping Abbadon push us further into cute demon girls doing cute demon things.
Feels good.

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>>77767926
Grats anon, that most be a huge achievement for you.

>>77767954
Sadly it is.

>>77767954
if you're on this board, you know exactly how much of an achievement it would be to have a permanent part in creating one of your favorite works of fiction.
so put away that sarcastic reaction img, you unexcited fag

>>77767915
One of them is going to get crushed by a giant statue? Mad props if you get this reference.

>>77767954
It is a good feeling to have an impact on something you really enjoy.

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>>77767983
He is literally an anonymous person shouting about his input into part of a name.
If this was the S6BD comments or something where you are recognizable okay take a few characters to gloat.
Doing it here especially about trying to turn it into "Cute demon girls doing cute demons things" yah fuck off.

>>77767550
Oh look, she got her hat back.

>>77767730

When he unmasked himself, Vladok pretty much ripped his own 'self' out of his ody and allowed it to devolve back into the Hot Black Flame. Before it dissipated entirely, though, it was wreaking havoc with what direction Vladok was able to impart on it--it's not mindless per se, but when unmasked it no longer has a real sense of self.

Allison then slapped a mask on that mass of chaos, and congealed it into a new 'self', Princess Esquire. Because she is, technically the same being as Vladok, she'll eventually be able to dredge up memories from before Vladok unmasked, but there's a whole lot of formless confusion for her mind to work out first.

She'll probably have to work as a bar imp to pay off the tab, too.

>>77767550
>Her name
Mask-gender associations confirmed
I called it like 4 threads back. I'm fucking pumped

>>77768604
Seems to be a toss up with Ebon devils.

>>77768604
Who DIDN'T call it? I mean. Among those of us who were here for when Abbadon shared information about devils. It isn't really that much of a surprise.

>>77768668
Might be a toss up, or at least ambiguous, with Gold devils too.

>>77768679
I think we saw a couple of Gilded Devils a while back, one with a masculine face and another with a feminine one. I think it's still easy to differentiate the two.

>>77768710
The only masculine Gilded devil I've seen is Preem Nand, and he could be an exception because he's a devil possessing a servant.

>>77768729
Easily found it. Here, it should make it all clear. I don't think I'll have to point out the specific examples since they should be clear.
http://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/wielder-of-names-2-28/
http://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/wielder-of-names-2-27/
http://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/wielder-of-names-1-16/

>>77767746
>male-to-female
WOLBACHIA

>>77768729
Princess' gilded mask looks pretty masculine.

>>77768787
WORDS THAT KILL

>>77768765
None of those look unequivocally masculine to me, but it could certainly be wishful thinking on my part. I'm still waiting on WOG from Abbadon.

The extra fluffy parts make PMMJJJDTTBFMBLE look even cuter than the other semen devils.

>>77768807
No? I'm talking about FEMININE.

And if you say none of those look "unequivocally masculine", you're pretty much just being stubborn for no reason. The 2nd link has a pretty obvious masculine looking Gilded Devil, anon. Bottom.

The world of Throne conforms very well to our values. It should be obvious what is male and female because there are very universal traits associated with each (I mean, even the gods can be defined in the same way).

>>77767726
this can only be a good thing, anon

>>77768073
don't be so boring god. can't you just let someone be excited? it's not hurting you

>>77768836
Yes, it's possible I'm being stubborn because I'm biased but I'm not willing to give up hope just yet. I'm waiting for a devil that is explicitly outside its color/gender assignment or for Abbadon to come out and finally tell us.

>>77768853
Best part of 4chan is anyone can bitch about anyone's post. Even you're taking advantage of this.

Difference is you sound like a bleeding heart faggot.

Just read this for the first time today. This shit is crazy and I'm loving it. Really getting a Hindu Mythology vibe off of most of it, minus the obvious other mythologies thrown in (Japanese Tengu, Sphixes).

Either way it's great. How often does it update?

>>77768939
Twice a week Teusday and Thursday

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>>77768951
We got three last week.

So, honest question; is this comic any good? The art is wonderful and the setting is cool but I haven't gotten into it because I'm worried that it'll just be another comic ruined by slow updates, bad pacing and lesbian shipping.

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>>77768853
Not him, but other people being excited about stupid things upsets and frustrates me

>>77769013
Abbadon had some hiatus before setting up the Patreon and redrawing all the beginning of the comic, but he's been extremely regular in updates since then.

>>77769013
The start was kinda slow but recently the artist has been extremely prodigious, 2-3 new pages per week, and we usually have threads for each new page to argue about obscure plot points and worldbuilding mechanics. I highly recommend giving it a read, more than one if you have the time. The worldbuilding can be kinda dense and hard to grasp immediately. Just be sure to read the alt text and the supplements posted below each page. I'd recommend the wiki if it was being regularly updated.

>>77769045
nofunallowed.jpg

>>77769058
Your fun is wrong

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>>77769066

>>77769053
>obscure plot points and worldbuilding mechanics.
This is really the sort of thing I love but I don't want to commit to something for DEEPEST LORE when in six months the comic is only going to be about sudden bisexuals or irrelevant side characters.

>>77769079
Read it or don't. No one but the author can tell you if any of that is going to happen.

>>77769079
Don't worry, the transsexual angel comes in after only a few pages and the demon chick has only commented that she things the MC is kinda hot so far.

>>77769079
I very doubt that. Abbadon said that he has all the comic already planned, and basically it's gonna have sever major arcs, each one focusing on one of the seven Antagonists.

>>77769092
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>>77769079
At this point it should only take you a few days to read and digest. From what I've gathered the comic is only a fraction of the way through the plot.

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>>77769092
>le buzzwords

>>77769104
Technically she's not a transsexual as she's biologically, for whatever it's worth when discussing a being made of fire, asexual.

>>77769092
(You)

>>77769129
Doesn't that make it even worse? It now an asexual that thinks it's male but pretends it's female or some shit. It's an entirely senseless character conflict

>>77769145
No, it's an asexual being who knows its asexual developing a feminine perception of self. Also not conflicted about it.

>>77769145
There are characters in the story that bring up that exact point, ridiculing them for being concerned about "insipid gender." It's pretty well handled in context and it's hardly a major focus of the story, at least so far.

>>77769129
That actually sounds like a cool character, or at least an interesting concept. It's the blue chick who gives me pause, like she's the fan favorite, she's in all the fanart and she's hitting on the MC. The two of them getting together is going to be forced by the fans so hard that I don't even want to bother with it.

>>77769166
Yeah, I'm concerned about Cio as well. I trust the author to not let his comic get bogged down by it, though. There is some fan-driven content but it seems like Abbadon knows how to sift through the bullshit effectively enough. If he didn't, the devil on the newest page would be called Tuxedo Mask.

>>77769166
She's never actually hit on the MC, she actually thinks the MC is an idiot.

>>77769156
It doesn't like being called she though, and is embarrased by it's feminine form. Seems like it perceives itself as male, or at least not female.

>>77769166
I don't even get why people like Cio. Trans angel and 6 juggy are more interesting

>>77769191
Nah, son. Their spirit form is decidedly feminine, they just reject that label because of the connotations and because their superiors don't like angels concerned with gender and refer to members of their order as "brothers"

>>77769199
have you seen her hat?

>>77769191
It's embarassed by its human form. Other angels are Bulls with whells instead of heads, motorbikes made of skeletons and similar things. The problem is not "feeling feminine", the problem is "feeling so much human that thinking in gender term make sense at all".

>>77769186
I would like to read a supernatural adventure comic with a female MC, the art is amazing and it gives me a kind of Hellboy vibe. The difference is, for some reason two women in a story means they have to be kissing each other or killing each other but nobody ships Hellboy because it's a waste of time.

>>77769212
6juggy is a humaniod on a motorbike. He still looks human, just has accessories. Thwn there was whatever the purple one was named

>>77769213
Nobody really knows where it's gonna go at this point. It's entirely possible the author will go full homestuck this comic started out on the MSPA forums but we're holding out hope for a better result than that.

>>77769225
>Woe be he that mistakes the rider for the steed

Sure.

>>77769225
23 Liminal Blossom Punctures the Heart of the Unrepentant, Deliciously

>>77769225
>Thwn there was whatever the purple one was named

Do you mean the one that was brutally killed exactly for being human the second page it appeared?

>>77769225
>>77769239
I figured he was both

>>77769191
She perceives herself as feminine, not female. She doesn't like being called she and hides her feminine form because of how the other angles react.

>>77769199
6 Juggernaut Star has nothing going for him other than a rockin' introduction and great design. We know his motivations but practically nothing of his personality. Cio is most interesting when trying to make Allison act like a Campbellian hero archetype.

>>77769053
>we usually have threads for each new page to argue about obscure plot points and worldbuilding mechanics

Don't forgot about how Abbadon did the mistake of drawfagging on /d/ once and the comic is only moments from turning into a magical realm of the worst kind and about literally the sex of the angels.

>>77769232
>It's entirely possible the author will go full homestuck
I've only started reading it and I know that's exactly where it'll end up.

>>77768604
We see male and female ebons in that page though. I think gilded devils are both female and male, and I'm sure that preview page on devils Abaddon posted had a female crimson devil.

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Okay, theory time - Cio stole Mammon's key. Furthermore, that key has not been recovered by him, and he somehow got another one instead. This explains what I previously thought was an inconsistency in the key shapes.

In the first image showing the young Demiurges, as narrated by Cio, Mammon has a cross-shaped key. Then, as White Chain narrates their rise to power, it first shows Mammon with the cross-shaped key during the War, then again with the same key as the Seven form their pact, but suddenly, he has a completely different key when White Chain talks about how they are still in power (and crazy). It makes sense to me that the Ebon devil implied to be Cio right now stole Mammon's original key at some point between the end of the War and the current story.

I could be completely wrong since technically the shape isn't 100% the same and the one here might just be a depiction of a generic key of kings, but it's fun to theorize.

>>77769734
Each of the demiurges has 111,111 keys (or close to it).

>>77769734
>>77769741
(I still think your theory is good though)

>>77769734
I like it

>>77767770
>My infernal army of the chaotic shackled flame can't be this cute!

>>77769741

Right, I should have been a little more clear. Just from their depictions, it does seem like each of the Seven has a main key they wield (perhaps their original one), but Mammon's is for some reason different than in previous times.

>>77768372
>She'll probably have to work as a bar imp to pay off the tab, too.

so....hot....

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>>77767550
Sheeet.
Can't wait for more. Also poor Jägermeister Jack Daniels

>>77769199
>Trans angel and 6 juggy are more interesting

Yeah, White Chain and Juggsy hate-fucking is...of interest. Even if they don't have the physical bits to do it, just the twp of them being attracted to each other and HATING IT.

Especially on 6 Jugg's part, I could see 'him' just being emotionally destroyed by it all. Like, he should kill White Chain and..just...can't....

Oh, the delicious tears.

That said, Cio now has a new love interest!

Blueberry Esquire and her make a super-sweet couple, and they OBVIOUSLY have a lot in common, both being fallen Ebon's and all....

>>77769734
>Okay, theory time - Cio stole Mammon's key.

Wow, nice spot!

Boy, that complicates things, if true. But, to be honest, if each of the seven has over 100,000 keys, it's not unreasonable they use more than one.

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>>77769912
Demon/Human lesbians is the ultimate forbidden fruit. Ero-Fanart will be even better... and you can tell them apart by the colors of thier thighs as opposed to Cio/Princess.

>>77769129
>It's SU all over again.
kek

>>77769976
Except in this case 82 is clearly lacking in anything resembling female features.

>>77767550
So to get clear: There isn't something like a one true name or names of different colours but just a number of names which are more powerful as less they have?

how do demons get upgraded to bigger demons?

>>77770388
They get bigger when they put on the mask.

>>77770413
So that's why they wear the mask

>>77770388
Lose names. By giving a demon more names as you see in the page they become weaker.

>>77770439
yea, but how do you lose a name?

>>77767550
What about the guy who had a busted mask. Didn't he need a replacement?

>>77770443
I recall its something about tricking your owner into calling you by one of your other names, like if Allison called this guy Bill he would move back up to red.

>>77770443
Trick a human who is making a deal with you into calling you by fewer names.

Names can also get old and weaker though, so taking on more names and then shedding the older ones to maintain power might be a viable tactic for them.

>>77769166
God you're a whiny bitch, I agree with the points you make and all, but just decide to follow the comic or don't. You could have read it, then gone back and written a college-level essay on the reasons it should be they way you want it to be by now.

>>77769213
>Thinks Hellboy is not rife with gay ships too.
I know it's annoying to have gay stuff in your comics, but most of them don't have it as the focus of the story, so you can ignore it pretty easy.

Just like all gay people have to when watching almost any media that is not a webcomic.

>>77769053
Never felt the need to read the supplements, they just seem like gibberish to me. Are they worth reading? I understand the lore fine without them.

>>77767730
Alright, so that's 15 names.

And we also know Cio Cioelle Estrella von Maximus the third.
I'm going to assume that's six names.

It took at least seven names before the demon formerly known as Vladok was shrunk down to red, and at least 12 until he became blue.

So is Cio intentionally staying blue?

>>77770612
What better cover is there for anyone who may be hunting an ebon that stole a key?

>>77770721

Where did that come from? The implications here are clearly that Cio used to be Ebon (White Chain said SHE stole the key, the Ebon in the image resembles her current mask, Oskar's comment about how she "looks good in blue", implying she was a higher color before, the fact that she kicks serious ass despite being a low-ranking devil).

>>77770742
Sorry, cover FROM.

Cio is hiding.

>>77770761

Oh, gotcha. Thought this was one of those "everything points to X, so OBVIOUSLY it's actually Y" deals.

>>77770721
>>77770761
But is it possible for a demon to maintain their current form despite having shed enough names to ascend to the next color?

Is ranking up a thing that a demon must choose to do even after meeting all the criteria to do so?

I guess that would make sense so as to not raise suspicion when the human who gets tricked into shedding names from a demon doesn't realize they've done it when the blue demon they have a contract with suddenly turns red.

>>77767730
>>77767764
>>77768372

Is the whole mask deal inspired from a mythology in particular or it's original? Either way I love it.

>>77769853
Uh. Have you seen Abbadon's depiction of "paying off the tab"?

>>77771243

Just shut up.

>>77770488
>You could have read it, then gone back and written a college-level essay on the reasons it should be they way you want it to be by now.

Jesus fucking christ, DON'T encourage this faggot.

Abaddon, IGNORE THE FANS. Pay no mind, they're a bunch of couch-dwelling faggots.

Write what you wanna write.

>>77770581
>>>77769053
>Never felt the need to read the supplements, they just seem like gibberish to me. Are they worth reading? I understand the lore fine without them.

Interesting.

So, without having read the supplements, what's your take on the lore?

I'm curious to see how well it comes across.

>>77771243
>>>77769853 (You)
>Uh. Have you seen Abbadon's depiction of "paying off the tab"?

...no.

But I'd be very interested in a link! :)

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>>77770742
>the Ebon in the image resembles her current mask

Blow'd up showing Cio and the stealy-Ebon, and yup, there's a real resemblance.

Also:

>"YOU WANNA FIGHT ME TOO?"
>"Perhaps not."

Smart man right there.

So wait, you only need to shed 15 names to become ebon ?
I must miss something from the process of demon rank-upgrading because that seems waaay too easy considering how few ebon demons there are

>>77773000

Not necessarily. It could very well be explained by saying that the names Allison gave here are more potent than usual because of her Key of Kings, so it took "only" 15 names to degrade an Ebon to Blue.

>>77773031
Oh, that's an explanation
Why did she make it blue though ? Blue demons are the absolute weakest, having a gold demon would have been way more usefull no ?

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>>77772466
:^)

>>77769013
The tone can be inconsistent sometimes. Granted, that's by design, but sometimes the mood switches too suddenly to feel natural.

Last thread, which was moved from /tg/, we had an anon bitching that the dialogue and writing is shit. Thanks to them, I'm starting to see its flaws a little more clearly, but it's still a great comic.

>>77773239

Allison isn't really well versed in the rules of the universe. She also has neither the capacity nor the desire for serious logical thought right now.

By the way, Pallid devils are even weaker than Blue ones.

>>77770581
>they just seem like gibberish to me

That's actually part of the fun. Reading the extras is like trying to decipher a foreign religion that's completely different from what you've seen before.

>>77771182

I don't know, but I remember Abaddon saying that changing masks for a devil is like reincarnation. They literally become a new person when they gain a new mask.

>>77773294
What flaws did you see? Can you name any examples?

>>77770581
Like anon in >>77773381 , they are not necessary but are excellent complements. Another anon once put it as KSBD's lore as seen from the mythologies of the inhabitants of the Thrones and the 7777777 universes.

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>>77772406
>Year of Our Lord 0000011111011111
>Shamelessly pushing for your fetishes this hard.

>>77773550
>What flaws did you see? Can you name any examples?

Like I said, the tone can shift too suddenly to feel natural.

Off the top of my head, in the last few pages, after Vladok breaks his mask, Allison goes from being terrified to "I'm drunk as hell and have no idea what I'm doing!" and "In the name of the moon, and all this delicious-ass liquor!" within the span of a few panels. A transition that quick is awesome if it includes something to show the transition. In this case, it's too jarring, like going from A to C with no B.

In particular, I think this example could be easily fixed. Instead of "I'm drunk as hell and have no idea what I'm doing!", it could be something a little more frightened like "I-I'm drunk as hell! What do I do now!?". Then, after being told to name the devil, she becomes confident. Put a "Well in that case --" before the "In the name of the moon!", and it would seem much better to me.

I realize that it's incredibly difficult to balance the transitions like this with pacing and per-page-content, but it's something all writers must master. I believe Abaddon won't have much trouble doing this with time.

From an old scraggly man to princess demon loli. Too kawaii for me

>>77773747
>A transition that quick is awesome if it includes something to show the transition.

Sorry, that should be "A shift that quick is awesome if it includes something to show the transition."

I feel that if I'm critiquing someone else's writing, mine shouldn't be quite as clunky as that unchanged sentence.

>>77767668
It's a Her now so fap away!

I'm a little disappointed Tuxedo Mask didn't get in.

>>77774073
mamoru did

>Masks come with clothes too
Cool

>>77773747
I think see your point. I guess I'm used to western comics skipping potential panels. Detailed panel-to-panel sequences that show the evolution of stuff like people's emotions and fights are more an eastern thing.

>>77768787
VOCAL CHORD PARASITES

>>77770168
Boobs???

>>77770461
Maybe. Too bad though.

>>77773747
She was clearly frightened and drunk.

>>77769247
no that was Delicious, the mercenary angel that tried to kidnap Allison

>>77768853
>muh safe space

>>77774355
I'm not a western comics aficionado, but manga has a tendency of going too far in the other direction.

Abaddon's trying to tell a story here, though, which is vastly different from manga and cape comics, which just try to show off powerful superhumans fighting. Conveying the important stuff, external events and the internal processes of the characters, in an efficient manner that flows well is something everyone struggles with. This is a challenge to be tackled head-on, otherwise you'll end up as either mangoes or just more capeshit that even fans of both genres hate.

>>77769247
>Do you mean the one that was brutally killed exactly for being huma
Delicious was also a rogue angel, they didn't belong to any faction besides their girl.

Not surprising their form deviates from the accepted norm of angels.

>>77774821
nah they were a Petal.

>>77773747
drunk people are rarely coherent.

>>77774833
http://orbitaldropkick.tumblr.com/post/86299576856/the-angel-23-liminal-blossom-punctures-the-heart
>A rogue angel not in line with the concordance.

>>77774684
Her expression in the "I'm drunk as hell" panel looks more awkward than frightened to me. The dialogue doesn't really convey fear, either.

"I'm drunk as hell and have no idea what I'm doing!" is something a lovable underdog in a Michael Bay movie would say while driving a fire truck through a burning skyscraper to rescue some inner-city orphans. Michael Bay movies are alright, but suddenly adopting their tone seems counterproductive in a comic which trying to portray a more down-to-earth character.

Honestly, I'm not even complaining about the fact that the comic's tone went in that direction. I just think it wasn't conveyed well due to leaving out the transition from "terrified" to "confident/devil-may-care".

>>77774941
the Concordance is angels still loyal to upholding the law, like 82. Thorns aren't part of the concordance either.

>>77774994
Still rogue
Also when I said
>they didn't belong to any faction besides their girl
I meant
>they didn't belong to any faction besides their guild

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>>77773256
Hot.

I hope me makes more someday

or like
hopefully he'll sneak something fun like that in the series

>>77775050
right well. everything is fine then.

>>77774942
This is inline with Allison's character. She did stuff like this in the original story.

>>77774684
She was clearly frightened and drunk.

The mods apparently deleted my first response to this, even though it was measured and entirely reasonable. I'll be brief this time.

"I'm drunk as hell and have no idea what I'm doing!" seems more awkward and devil-may-care to me than frightened. It's something a goofy action movie hero would say while driving a firetruck through a burning skyscraper to save some orphans.

I don't think there's anything wrong with Allison having this attitude, but a few panels earlier she was screaming and starting to tear up. I would be fine with this if there was something before this that showed her composing herself or cheering up or something. As it is, it seems to sudden for me really feel it.

You know what?

This demon world seems like a pretty chill place if you stay out of trouble

>>77775178
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>>77775170
I know she did. I have no problem with that. I'm just saying that I don't think the transition to that from scared was given enough attention.

>>77775185
Yep. Know your place and you'll be fine.

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>>77770318
There's a piece of text explaining that the White masks (weakest of the devil cast) have an incredibly long string of names and Ebon Devils (the strongest) have just one.
As for the concept of a true name it does not apply to Devils since their essence is made from the black flame of Yis that got thrown into the void by Koss, later these clumps of chaotic flame got given identities by binders and the Devils themselves then start shaping their identity.

It's also implied that there's this fucking horrible Devil monster that can keep his shape and dosen't have a name; he's the exception.

>>77774073
>>77774181
what anon said. Mamoru is Tuxedo masks name.
Mamoru Chiba

>>77775185

It seems like dealing with fae, follow their rules and you'll be fine. Heck, the other demons rushed to fight when Vladok went unmasked.

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I really want Abaddon to do more short stories, the story of Aesma was a good read and added quite a bit to the lore.

>>77767550
"oh my gooood"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7HmltUWXgs

poor princess Mamoru moonshine jeagermeister jack jacck daniels timothy tim bill blueberry luna esquire is going through an existential crisis.

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>>77775221
I didn't know that. I guess don't mind me shitting on Michael Bay after all. In that case. . .

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>>77770612
>at least 12

The neat thing here is that Pallid devils are stated to have hundreds of names. Does the growth in power from name loss change exponentially?

>>77775316
I see many anons talk about a nameless devil king, is in some of the texts or from the early forum version of k6bd? I'd wanna read about him

>>77775577
I'd be willing to bet it is a functon of how many/who gave them.
Like really powerful mage could give you one and bump you down a whole level or you could get twenty from someone weak and not bat an eye.
There is also probably a point where no matter how many names you are given you can't get much weaker.

How exactly does a devil get rid of its names, is it a ritaul? Do they trick some human to de-name them?

>>77770318
its more like apply labels to them. giving them names and labels reduces their power by giving shape to their natural formlessness. this is most similar to jinn

>>77775577
Maybe the more common the name the lesser its effect?

>>77775756
seems to be some sort of ritual to it. the rituals may be a bit casual though. like, cio has been called Cio many times, and still is blue. So there is more to it then JUST casually calling them a single name. Maybe it requires a handshake as well. GIVING Princess her names, required a mask possibly to just replace the broken one, an actual contract with Allison in their challenge, and Allison making use of her key. Now, its possible not all of these were required. Perhaps the key was just required to put her back into the mask after the first was shattered.

>>77775611
Shit Anon, give me a bit and I'll post in the next thread; it could just be a rumour.

Also the old msp of K6BD is worth checking out, it serves to flesh out Alison a bit more and it's fun to read.

>>77773405
Ranking up or down in the color doesn't seem to be the same as changing masks.

>>77775444
They're beneath pages sometimes.
See this page? >>77775316
Read the text beneath this page
http://killsixbilliondemons.com/comic/ksbd-5-86/

Then look at that page in the thread again.

>>77775909

I think normally it's a complicated process with a whole lot of magic and ritual involved. Those three devil-binders were going to have to make a team effort of it, probably shackling it in place first, doing some kind of magic to force the demon's body to accept the mask, another one for actually binding the mask on there, probably more for each name they want to add, and so on. Allison has the power of not just *a* key of kings, but *the* key of kings, so she can just slap a mask on the rampaging demon, and shout some random vaguely official-sounding "YOUR NAME IS PRINCESS MAMORU MOONSHINE JAGERMEISTER JACK JACCK DANIELS TIMOTHY TIM BILL FREDDY MERCURY BLUEBERRY LUNA ESQUIRE NOW", and poof, she's got herself a blue devil.

Removing names seems like it'd be a less power-intensive ritual, because you've got an eager participant in the devil, and because it just seems like it'd be easier to go "Jacck is not one of your names anymore". It's kind of like compressing air--it takes a lot of work to force it into a smaller container, but to release that power you just have to give it an opening. But given how Throne isn't flooded with high-rank devils, it's probably fairly complex to know *how* to pull off, and that information is closely guarded.

>>77776007
Glad to hear it. I'll check out the msp thing

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>>77775695
>>77775768
I think its like >>77775830 said.
Thats what made me wonder, since both the up- and down ranking implied getting many names.
But maybe its the form of the name? Like the name should show-off how popular the devil is? Maybe like devils take their power from humans believing in them?

LIke i give a devil the name "surtur the destroyer, souleater and highest dark priest".
It implies he is strong. Maybe many humans believe to fear him.

But does he get a name "Tanok, the lowest devil, footlicker of the devil" noone fears him and dont get much "believing" or "popularity?

So a name with Princess and not powerfull sounding/meaning will downgrade the devil.
And i dont believe "Freddy Merkury" was refferred to his music power.

So every demon want better, powerfuller names and fears to loose names that indicate how powerfull he is.
So the humans wont empower him with tehir believe in him.

>>77776118
No they wanted to fight it away. Back to the void and shit.
They diddn't even think about doing such a rackless but simple thing Alice did.

>>77776212
But Princess alone would have made him/her/it an ebon

>>77776311
maybe he was too powerfull.
And you can have the surname "princess of torture".
Its just my thoughts since the page implies names to get higher, grown oild name to downgrade him.
The newest page is contradicting to this before. relaterd to the "amount of names"

But if i take "other-colored names" to rank up, it sounds as if these are powerfuller names, maybe fear inducing?
And "a lovely gold, my name caused fear and dread" in the second panel indicates that princess wasnt enough since it wasnt grown old, aka forgotten, not praised in horror.

But its just the pages i can consider. not was is intended.

>>77776212

>Naked Blue demon girls

Why did the gods forge a boner so much stronger than a man?

>>77776440
>old names
>related
>not what was intended
sorry about the typos.
Its hard in the reply text block to see them for me.

So why doesn't anyone waifu Allison? We've got people making Cio their waifu (understandable) but I haven't read likewise for Allison. Is she just too pure?

>>77776527
Too normal.

>>77776527
Abbadon is just getting to where he doesn't draw her terribly.
Give it time.

>>77776527
I think its the monster girl waifu syndrom
Just kidding.
I think she is too pure and her character is not fleshed out enough for readers.
Besides with Cio we get alot of infos and the devil background gives her more story till now.

Or try to categorize her and Cio. What are their outstanding threats?
I bet its easier for you to grasp Cio, than Allison.

Besides, am i the only one thinking Cio is a writer insert?

>>77776527
too much the protagonist. Allison is "US" the reader more then a character so far.

>>77776527
She's depicted as a loser, neither a cute nerd nor a badass hotie

>>77769079
>sudden
Cio's been crushing on Allison for awhile now. It's cute and better yet in character

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>>77776683
>I think she is too pure and her character is not fleshed out enough for readers

She's someone who created a fake jock persona to get popular, and who was literally in the process of getting fucked by some creep just to check the "not a virgin" box on her life resume. Also confirmed to be a sorority drunkie.

Also, she is by leaps and bounds the most fleshed out character in the strip.

>>77777250
she's human though. We're blinded to her becuase everything and everyone around her is 10,000 times more interesting, unless related to the story.
Cio's crushing on her so hard because she wants to make her the hero of a new legend and heroes are really attractive

Id wager that the whole giving/taking names revolves around striking a bargain with a devil and very much relies on saying the name correctly. As with most devils in lore and folktales you both need to know their true name (perhaps in this case all of it) and their might be spells etc to force the devil to tell you its names. It is likely that striking a contract would involve a bargain wherein the deal is struck conditional on removing a name (on a side note it's likely that if you removed too many names it would level up and overpower you, another trope of demon lore). I think the free naming spree that occurs with vladok is probably a strange occurance because of the presence of an incredibly powerful key and that vladok became formless chaos whereas presumably normally he would of had a degree of control, or potential to overpower the mage (its likely his name was too old and weak to do this with more experienced mages).

>>77777250
That is not much for a MC. And with some pages in her earth with her friends.

For Cio there is more. she is a devil, a blue devil, lowest rank.
Than she does jobs for a certain higher devil, kinda slave prostitute devil.
Like a goon but now she likes to use allison for herself. Kinda?
She is not the "full bad" devil, rescues Allison, helps her. For her purposes?
Likes to smoke and drink, clothing is more proper and implies she is a merchant like type, like she deal with other persons. Kinda outsmarting the odds she encounters.
Not really straight as it seems, likes fanfiction. Quite skilled in magic.
Than we have the full devil background, that implies that she wants to uprank.
She seems to know how her world works.

Clio is more like the vigilante.

>>77777508
I wonder if the key did anything at all in that situation.

>>77776527
She's normal and not kawaii and doesn't have many moe characteristics.

>>77777181
She just thinks she's hot.

I wonder if Cio took up fan fiction writing when she was still an ebon or after.

>>77779103
When she was an ebon people wrote fanfiction about her

>>77773239
Gold devils are more powerful, but they're also a lot more dangerous to have around. The more powerful they are, the harder they are to control, and Allison isn't exactly an expert devil-binder.

>>77778808
you've got to read between the lines. Cio wants to write Allison's legend by guiding her and insert herself as the love interest of the great hero. Also she thinks she's hot.
How long until we get some Cio x Allison art? I've already got a few scenarios in my head

>>77773000
>So wait, you only need to shed 15 names to become ebon ?

Well, 15-ish.

It's new name, taken literally, is:

Princess Mamoru Uh-Moonshine Jagermeister Jack Jacck Uh-Daniels Um Ah-Timothy Tim Bill Freddy Mercury Blueberry Luna, Esquire

Criminy, that's a mouthful.

>>77767983
>>77768056
>>77768853
God, when did /co/ turn into such a bunch of pussies. You tumblrina's really have taken over. Congratulations.

>>77773747
>being terrified

...whaaaat?

Startled and belligerently drunk, dude. Allison has shown no fear whatsoever on this trip.

I think maybe her first excursion blew out her fear sensors. :)

>>77777777 universes

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>>77777168

Throwing up some pictures, becuz everybody likes pictures.

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>>77779888

MAH-VELLOUS

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>>77779914

Hangover's suck.

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>>77779969

The Journey begins....

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>>77779983

She means what she says.

Man, Abaddon's character design is so on-point.

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>>77779998

Probably my favorite so far. :)

>>77779999

Whoa, nice double quads!

Abaddon's character designs are freakin' awesome!

>>77779888

Yeah, but when do they make out?

>>77780096
Yeah., I'm creeping the hangout and just actually watching him draw these characters; their design is really impressive. I need to watch his design vid.

>>77780152
>>>77780096 (You)
>Yeah., I'm creeping the hangout and just actually watching him draw these characters; their design is really impressive. I need to watch his design vid.

I am unable to get in, my life is full of sadness.

>>77780234
How come? There's no way this is full.

>>77779888
Gay chicken is scary chicken

>>77780239
>>>77780234 (You)
>How come? There's no way this is full.

Just says the video call is unavailable. I've tried like twenty times, using the link in the Patreon.

(sigh)

>>77780308
That sucks. It sounds like a connection or access problem, though.

>>77770612
I doubt that's Cio's full name. If you had a fifteen word name, would you introduce yourself by your full name or a shortened version?

>>77780694
I think for a formal introduction, she would use all her names to prove she isn't pulling any tricks at the moment.

wait a minute
>ebon devils are the most powerful
>pallid devils are the least powerful
>devils come from the BLACK flame
>so black is the strongest, and off-white (since they will always have a bit of black) is the weakest

DEEPEST LORE

But seriously, the attention to detail is pretty good, as I've pointed out with the color of the "previous chapter" "next chapter" buttons.

>>77780784
I prefer to imagine that part of her true name is "Tittyfucker" and she would like it if Allison didn't know that.

Hmmm, it was said that the Weider of Names story was predicted to come to a clone near the end of the year.

It was said that book 2 of K6BD would include:
– unbound devils
– 82 drinking fire
– an angel that rides a motorcycle made of skeletons
– preteen Allison
– Maya’s first story
-- and most importantly, a Terrible Tree.

We've gotten at least three of those so far, possibly five.

>>77779103
After because she no longer felt important.

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>>77779999
I have to recognize this get. And yes you're correct. It's super inspiring.

Does anyone else like the three demon binders as characters? Their seriousness and competence is a good contrast to Cio's silliness and Allison's ignorance.

>>77783779
They are interesting but I don't expect them to stay around. It's good to see other "humans" who know stuff interact with Allison.

>>77783779
>Does anyone else like the three demon binders as characters? Their seriousness and competence is a good contrast to Cio's silliness and Allison's ignorance.

Surprisingly, I've really liked them.

I mean, out of the blue they just struck up a friendly conversation, and they stepped in to help Allison out even though it was achingly obvious she was a total clutz.

Although, she's a clutz with POWER.

She out-drank an ebon demon head-to-head, and when the demon tried to renege, she bound it again with pure brute force and massive ignorance.

Holy shit. The God Kinglet is stronk.

>>77784370
They see she has a gate key so they have reason to assume she knows what she's doing and is powerful enough not to get herself killed.

>>77781097
Fuaaaark

>>77768104
>>>77767550 (OP)
>Oh look, she got her hat back.

I am pleased. Cute Cio is mega-turbo cute.

>>77768798
oh shit, I'm feeling ashamed of my words and deeds

especially these

>>77781097
How is this not immediately evident?

>>77779481
she's also catching on that the master key can let her brute force most magic bullshit when push comes to shove

>>77778608
the Key is the most powerful name of god, right? So on a basic basic level it lets her speak the words of creation, and those words are absolute.

It might turn out that Princess Esquire has been named so hard There's no force in the universe but Allison capable of allowing her to get rid of any of those names

>>77767550
HUG THE PMMJJJDTTBFMBLE
Y/N

>>77776212
I think it's reputation in a cosmic sense rather than what humans believe.

Say you have Bobby Jaques Pebble Fjord Beakus. If he gets rid of one of those names he just becomes Bobby Jaques Pebble Fjord. Still a nobody.
But if he, say, killed seven giants in one strike, then he'd be Bobby Jaques Pebble Fjord Seven-With-One-Blow. The latest name actually carries weight, it'll be the bit that everyone remembers. So Bobby wants to lose those first four names but keep the last one.

and the ol' ebon devil's problem was that, in this case, he'd managed to ditch all the other names, but got complacent and his 'seven-with-one-blow' incident lost all relevance. He became a has-been. a 'what have you done lately?'

>>77775756
successfully market yourself such that no one remembers the name(s) you want to lose. "Who the fuck is Farrokh Bulsara? Is there such a person? I've never heard of them." said the student with a Freddie Mercury poster.
You catch my drift?

For demons that live for millenia it probably involves killing everyone that used to know you and hasn't reincarnated yet,.

>>77773239
she has a positive association with Blue since Cia is the closest thing to a friend she has among the devils

>>77788652
The key is ALL the names of god, where all the others are just one.
Supreme power, but wielded by the most inexperienced person.

>>77784370
>She out-drank an ebon demon head-to-head
she 'was' cheating. Cia had her swallow a paper voodoo doll that took the brunk of the alchohol

>>77779103
I get the impression she calls it fanfiction to underplay what she's doing.
I remember ina Whitewolf game, I think it was either changeling the lost, or it's successor, one of the clans/archetypes focused around the power of narratives. For example, you're trying to crack a safe that you have no clue what the combination is, and you've already gotten it wrong twice. Such a person could invoke the trope 'third times the charm' and get it right, the power to drive the narrative down the path they want.
I'd wager that Cia used to be a historian, and her loss of rank came from deciding that revisionism, even revisionism as it happens, is a more powerful tool than just knowledge.

The real question here is given that demons are defined by their names, and Princess Blueberry is Princess Blueberry, Esquire, does that mean she has a natural aptitude for being a lawyer now?

>Princess Blueberry gets stuck with Vladok's tab that he was able to run up because he was an Ebon
>Nobody wants to bother making a pact with a blue devil with a giant pile of names.
>Only option is working at the bar.
>The work is okay, but the wages are tiny
>dream of a better future
>save up puny wages to afford books
>stay up every night studying
>get into demon law school
>graduate top of demon class
>pass demon bar exam
>join demon law firm, become demon prosecutor
>bring demon class action lawsuits against prominent schools of binders for mistreatment of imps
>Allison conquers Throne
>get appointed Chief Justice of demon Supreme Court

>>77789594
I thought esquire was just a title for someone without any other titles.

>>77789884

In the UK, yeah. In the U.S. It's mainly a lawyer thing.

>>77789884
It was originally a title for those with enough knowledge of law to make rulings in a lords court.
In the U.S. must lawyers can still use it, but in other places it is just a random title now.

Jesus christ, why did I wait a year to start reading this?

>>77788943
You may be on to something but Vladok wasn't in a bad position. He was coasting with his last name.

>>77790923
He definitely seemed rather bitter about his circumstances

>>77789419
We didn't see her swallow it so she didn't. Otherwise she wouldn't have gotten drunk. It was all ison's drinking skills.

>>77790795
So you'd have more to read

>>77791031
Maybe but there's nowhere to go from where he is with that one name so I don't think his relevance mattered. He was even able to easily shed his mask so I think he was up there in power. Certainly not the most powerful.

>>77769079
It's based on eastern religions and especially the works of Michael Kirkbride. Think less bisexuals and more lovecraftian genders and penises that are actually fractal skeletons made out of metaphors.

>>77792593
>penises that are actually fractal skeletons made out of metaphors
now that's what I call a boner

>>77792653
I'm rock hard already.

Wanting to draw bad fanart. Any suggestions?

>>77784226
Humans seem to have a fairly broad definition. We'll probably see some weird fucks who still count as humans, just from another universe.

>>77792746
6 Juggernaut in a BMX motocross race

>>77792746
Cio trying to drunkenly flirt with Allison, who is thinking 'maybe if I kiss her she'll shut up'

>>77792746
6 Juggernaut as a Wacky Races character.

>>77769239
I never understood what that was supposed to mean. Okay, 6 Juggernaut is the steed... how? Why? Are those skellies that make up the bike somehow forcing him to direct them through the void?

>>77788943
>he'd managed to ditch all the other names, but got complacent and his 'seven-with-one-blow' incident lost all relevance. He became a has-been. a 'what have you done lately?'

That's actually a pretty damn good theory.

And might explain what happened to Cio; She stole a key, but it made her single remaining name SO NOTORIOUS that literally every other Ebon was after her, so she worked out a way to get some new names and sank into azure obscurity.

I mean, she already clawed her way to the top once, she should have an easier time of it getting back.

Especially if she stashed away that key somewhere....

>>77793246
I think it's more that he's carrying out the will of Metatron.

>>77790923
>>>77788943
>You may be on to something but Vladok wasn't in a bad position. He was coasting with his last name.

Well, maybe he was in a pretty bad spot.

If he was coasting on his rep long enough to get obscure and weak, maybe he was making his fellow Ebons look weak by association. Maybe they were looking for him, to rub him out.

So, maybe he had a good reason not to simply accept a demotion, the other Ebons would still stomp him.

Heck, Allison may have just saved his life.

Supreme Justice, Demonic Tribunal

Got a nice ring to it.

>>77792593
>Think less bisexuals and more lovecraftian genders and penises that are actually fractal skeletons made out of metaphors.

>more lovecraftian genders and penises that are actually fractal skeletons

> lovecraftian genders and penises that are skeletons

>lovecraftian genders and penises

>lovecraftian genders

Sweet merciful goddess, that's possibly the most disturbing concept I've seen this century.

>>77767550
>In retrospect it was really broadcasted that Cio had one name at one point.

How was her one name foreshadowed? Because I totally didn't see that coming.

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>>77792764
Subbed for a basic bike because damn that was overwhelming for bad fanart.

>>77793545

lol, cool!

>>77793545
We will never see Lil' Six Juggy as a precocious skeleton kid riding around the neighborhood on his hell Huffy, playing card stuck in the spokes, having childish slapfights with other angels.

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>>77792768
I'll get around to finishing this eventually.

>>77793278
Do we know if Cio still has the key?
Or did she loose it, maybe someone stole it?

And if you steale a key, does this promote you to a higher devil rank? Or does someone have to give you a keyowner related name?

>>77793971
I mean, getting a Key could basically give you any rank you wanted. 'Key-owner' is a name that would command immediate respect from near anyone.

>>77793971
Cio seems to think of things in terms of heroes, particularly whatever her goal is
and heroes have a bad habit of dying in the end

it's also possible that too many other people, people with keys of their own, know her too well. She decided she's better off betting on a wildcard and keeping her own key as her ace in the hole

>>77793971
According to the comic a key is composed of quite a few true names of god.
The key of kings specifically being composed of all of them.

I would think that you'd be able to take your pick if you owned it.

>>77793990
Yes, but some anons suggested before that she trcked to be blue. So noone tries to kill her because of the key.
Sounds not unlogical, since Cio isnt a typical demon here.
>>77794737
Maybe she is like a monstergirl waifu-ist?
Or demons are just like humans, some are bad, neutral or chaotic good. Just what you do to survive?

>>77794800
Do you mean, woth a key, you can decide what you look like?

>>77769013
>lesbian shipping.
That's more happened on /co/ than in the comic itself unless you're referring to Cio flirting with Allison to which I would point out Devils are fucking weird as the OP proves.

>>77769129
White Chain is transsexual in the sense that it's a being without a sex that has applied gender characteristics of female to itself. From the other angels perspective this would make it a transsexual from none to female.

>>77796632
As retarded as getting into this is, I'm too pedantic to let it go. The Concordance does not see any of its members with a gender identity in the first place, so it's not "transsexual" as being a trans implies a shift between gender identities.

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>>77767550
So I'm still not totally clear on how this whole naming thing works.
The devils get their names from humans right? and they go through a progression of different colors with associated power levels based on the number of names they have? but it isn't gaining more names that makes them more powerful but losing them, is that right?

If it is losing names that makes them more powerful how do they trick humans into helping them with that? How does one "lose" a name anyway?

>>77796831
I'm more interesting in how name aging (>>77776212) works in regards to this.
The third panel confuses me, since a name being forgotten would imply to me that the demon would grow in strength, The use of the word 'shrunk' is also a bit weird since again that should be a good thing (shorter name, more power).

>>77793278
Might it be possible that Cio as the 'Legendary Ebon Devil Who stole a Key' simply received a lot of new (nick)names purely through fame/notoriety?

Alternatively it would make sense to me if she gave herself a lot of different pseudonyms through her writing 'profession'.

>>77796831
IIRC Abaddon himself mentioned in an earlier thread that demons gain a new 'set' of names after winning a bet from a human, rather than just adding/subtracting a few each time but don't pin me down on that, the whole thing is a bit vague to me as well.

>>77798021
https://desustorage.org/co/thread/77442593/#77453120

>>77796831
You probably read the horribly out of date and inaccurate wiki.

>>77784418
Power does not preclude ignorance in this setting. Consider Aesma and the lessons she didn't learn.
I'm pretty sure Allison's ploy worked mostly because she didn't know it shouldn't have.

>>77793331
>I identify as a demiŗ̲͈̥͈̗̻̫͎̣͕̪̤̬͈͉̝̒̐́̈͂̒͒͛ͯ̒ͤ̀ͩ̀h̵̨̊̑̿̄͑̿͊ͭ͠҉͔̥̙̥'̀͆͆̊̓̍̉̃̇̎͋͑ͫ̚҉̨̨̟͔̭̣̥͔͕͙̬̞͖̳͉̥͉̕͝ͅͅͅv̶̘̖̘̖̰̺̼̰̱̳ͨ̎̊̒̓̈́ͧͥ̕ä̼̯̲͈͔͇͇̤̤̬̰̋͌ͬ̑ͪ̐͒ͪ͌͛ͣ̀̕͢s̴ͪ̓̍̈́͑͋̋̍ͦ̌ͪͫͮ̊͆̕͝͡͏̺̫͙̦͇͍͎͈̣̼̣̤̖͇͉̯͚̺̖r̮͇̟̦͛͆͆̎ͮͦ̌͐̆̾͗͛̚͟͢ and my pronouns are i̧̜͉̠̜͙̦̎͒̽̒ͬͤ̉͐ͥͯ͟ͅk̴̛̑͊̇͒̽̏ͯͦͩ̅͋͒̽̈́̄ͨͦ̍͝҉̛͈̮̳̺̰͖͎̥̥̲͎̳ͅ, , v̸͎͈͖̫̔̀̌̅̋͗͞ḩ̴̵̺͚͍̲̫̩͙̼̙͍͙̭͙͖͇͍̰̩͎ͦ̅͐̈̐a̳̤̳̖̖̋̈́ͣͣ̍̀͊ͤ͐̈ͬ́̚r̴̡̧͖̖̬̭̬͇͔͓̪̬͓̼͕̪̪̤̺͎͑̑͐̓͒̄̚̚, and "it".

>>77800710
then how does it work?

>>77804199

>>77798021
>>77798138

>>77793545
That looks great

>>77793246
I think the whole thing is 6 Juggernaut.

>>77779361
>insert herself
What fanfiction writer can resist a self-insert character?

>>77804479
>>>77793246
>I think the whole thing is 6 Juggernaut.

That could make sense.

In myth, juggernauts were horrible cursed wagons that destroyed everything they ran over. I could see Juggs as such a wagon, that is currently constructed as a motorcycle with a detachable piece that's a 'rider.'

I mean, we've seen the bike disassemble itself already.

>>77793246
6 Juggernaut Star is driven by revenge.

>>77804741
also, ophanim are a type of biblical angel described as burning wheels covered in eyes

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>>77796735
They refer to each other as brother, though. It's obvious that, despite finding human gender 'insipid', they still tend to err on the side of identifying themselves as masculine. This would make sense, to be honest, since they are made from the pure essence of UN, who is the male half of YISUN.

>>77807569
holy shit nice.

>>77793971
If she did she wouldn't have to put up with anything so I'll say no.

>>77804294
I still don't understand, how does getting new names cause them to lose old ones? wouldn't gaining new names just make things worse for them?
How does one lose a name?

>>77807569
Oh wow, that's sick. Who by?

>>77809360
In order to go up a rank, as I understand it, you get a brand new name that's shorter than the one you had before. I'm pretty sure you have to get a human with power to give it to you, and you do that by providing a service to them in return. You strike a deal.

>>77809828
well, that's one way. the way abbadon specifically mentioned was when the demon tricks the human into doing it.

>>77809828
So could they theoretically introduce themselves as a shorter name? Like could Princess up there introduce itself to some human as simply Princess and become a Ebon again if they call it that?

I'm guessing it's more complicated since that sounds too easy

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>>77796735
>>77807488
They are all daughters and sons.

>>77809940
Well she's obviously not an Ebon and therefore has a longer name, so nobody's gonna fall for a trick that simple. I think the way to do it is gradually fool people into calling you by shorter and shorter names.

>>77810139
>Well she's obviously not an Ebon and therefore has a longer name, so nobody's gonna fall for a trick that simple
A person who doesn't understand the rules might.
But theoretically it could work that way right?
>I think the way to do it is gradually fool people into calling you by shorter and shorter names.
So like if they make a contract with someone and if that person doesn't want to keep saying their overly long name every time they need their attention and gives them a one word nickname they could become a Ebon again?
What is the limit on this? If Allison points at a devil and says "Hey you!" does "Hey You" become their new name? does that devil become a gilded?

>>77810559
I think there's some amount of 'intent' to name involved. Look at this page -- Allison says a bunch of uh, ums and ahs, but they didn't become part of the name.

Both Jacks got counted though, so might have something to do with what people perceive as a given name, not just a nickname.

>>77810559
Your guess is as good as mine at this point. I really wish Abbadon would come out with a list of definitive rules for this kind of thing. I'm also curious how Aeon names work.

>>77809980
Wat. The devils are white daughters? Not black?

>>77810559
I don't think so. It probably has to do with number of uses and how much the name really sticks. You can call a devil a single name once and it won't automatically go to Ebon. It has to be reaffirmed that that is the name now. One way this is done is by a contract I would assume. Another is by natural shedding due to tricks probably.

>>77812113
I think the white inheritors are closer to the flame than the black ones.
It's a little confusing because UN is white and YIS is black, and those colors also apply.
Servants: Black White
Aeons: White White
Humans: Black Black
Devils: White Black

>>77809980
That's wrong and outdated, no?

>>77812288
I don't think it is.

>>77812113
YIS and UN both have black and white inheritors despite YIS being the black flame and UN being the white flame.

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Guess that answers the question of whether she cheated or not. I figured she had, but this makes me really happy.

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>>77814340
>princess isn't joining the party
It's okay, I-I'm not crying

>>77814340
>Oskar and Cio used to date
OOOOOOHHHHHHH

>>77814496
No...no Abbadon wouldn't do us like that!

He asked us to name her. S-she has to be important!

>>77814340
>I don't even get to keep my pet demon?
Way too kinky if you did, Allison. Way too kinky.

>>77814340
I wonder if you could give tiny masks to those demons.

>>77814340
Oskar is going to "keep" princess "safe" for Alicen isn't he?
That guy looks like the sex dungeon type.

>>77814754
I wonder if devils can bind other devils
That'd be kinda hot

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>>77814340
>Oscar isn't joining the party
>Princess isn't joining the party

>>77814340
Goddamn Abbadon you are a machine

It's actually disconcerting to see a comic update so often

>>77814603
>He asked us to name her. S-she has to be important!
I'm 90% sure that's the OPPOSITE of how this works.

>>77816601
Yeah, just look at what Hussie did.

>>77816301
This. That's fucking great. But also a bit spooky.

>human girl can out drink an ebon demon
This is setting up for "the humans where the demons all along", right?

>>77817056
humans are what formed demons out the black flame to begin with, right? this is practically their home turf

>>77817056
Nah it's already been pretty well established that humans are assholes and ruin everything

>>77816301
patreon dosh at work

>>77817074
Mammon and Gog-Agog helped!

>>77817056
Or she was able to outdrink it because she believed she could. As I understand, Magic in this verse is bullshitting the Universe into doing what you want.

Could be the Key helped too.

>>77812113
Angels and Devils are white inheritors because they both are void species, it's got nothing to do with an Angel's white flame and a Devil's black flame.

>>77817219
regardless of what it means, whoever decided on a classification system where white/black has two different meanings deserves to be killed, and knowing kill six billion demons probably was for that exact reason, after a lifetime of getting attacked by angry students who had failed tests over it out for blood

>>77817213
I'm pretty sure it's a lot more specific and skill-based than that. There seem to be a lot of rites and rituals involved in magic that users have to learn. She just gets away with being ignorant because she has an incredibly powerful artifact in her face.

>>77817276
I don't know. The lore make a very big point about will and want being much more important than actual skill and knowledge.

>>77809980
>>77812288
>>77812410
Isn't it obviously outdated, though? Devils obviously aren't all 'daughters'. Same with humans, or else that would mean all of us are females. Even Zaid. And there aren't any "Spirits" anymore. The Servants aren't even referred to as such in their creation story.

Also, Servants are white and Devils are black, but they're switched in that picture.

It shouldn't have taken that long to notice all the inconsistencies with the story and come to the conclusion that it's been changed.

>>77817310
Are you talking about Aesma? Because I don't think that kind of logic applies so much to inheritor races.

>>77817318
>Isn't it obviously outdated, though? Devils obviously aren't all 'daughters'. Same with humans, or else that would mean all of us are females.
That would be how you might read it if you're an idiot, but for a non-idiot the fact that humans were written as "daughters" while some of them are dudes means that some devils being dudes doesn't make them not daughters.
It still very well might be outdated, but not for the reasons you're saying.

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>>77817337
Aesma is the most glaring example, but it's a common theme in the lore. Even in the story about the race creation speak of how having a will is the most terrible quality of humans.

>The Gods were bowed in awe, for the little lives of Men burned with meaning many times more potent than the creators of the Red City themselves, and the terrible fires of will burned so brightly within their brows that each was a Universe on their own, and the Gods could say no more.

>>77817056
Of the five rounds shown, out of ten total, three were beer and one was wine.

>>77817402
I think that means that humans had a will to master the Art and start fucking shit up for everyone. It doesn't mean that anyone with a will can do whatever they want without first acquiring strength. Aesma could do whatever she wanted because she was a goddess, and even then she did it poorly because of how ignorant she was.

>>77779420
nice meme, buddy

>>77768056
>One of them is going to get crushed by a giant statue? Mad props if you get this reference.
...Ong Bak?