How's your webcomic #214

Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag

Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Let’s start of the list with a useful guide for PANEL LAYOUT:
http://innerspace.notonigon.com/?p=8

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
PEOPLE: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV (embed)

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'scribblehatch' or 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.

discordia chatroom link: https://discord.gg/0ckxsOeUFTo3h7m4

Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qby0ed4aVpo [Embed]

Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf

http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf

http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf


Paper Wings

http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/

https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

Comic Script: Plot to Outline

http://rocketbot.com/tutorials/626/writing-a-comic-script-from-plot-to-outline-to-final-draft

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdSliCl-YnM

alright, I've been using photoshop for a long time to do my art, but I've been really slowing down

I'm starting to wonder if its just my fault, or if there's just some aspects of photoshop that don't make it cohesive to drawing. If this is the case, what other programs can I use?

>>77759259
People like Manga Studio a lot.

>>77759267
Really? I always figured, based on the name, that it was just a meh program that used "manga" in its title to attract people who don't know any better. Where can I download a trial, and how much is it if I end up liking it?

>>77759330
It goes on sale for $15 pretty often.

>>77759375
dang, that's pretty cheap

>>77759330
funny thing about assumptions
basically mangastudio (otherwise known as clipstudio) is an improved version of photoshop with less bloat, more pen sizes and different tool presets, a stabilizer, and some other really neat features. the only thing photoshop has on it is its painting, which is where photoshop kinda has everyone else beaten (though imo it's not that good for painting. now polaroid photomax SE? that thing paints like a mofo)

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More magic and stuff.

http://vigormortis.co.uk/

>>77759489
>stabilizer
oh my fucking god

i am tearing up right now, I'm buying this fucking thing. I can't wait to get started with this

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>>77759558
Only had passing glances at your stuff in these threads, but read this page and it looks great, gonna read your stuff later tonight

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Battle Secretary guy, if you're in this thread, I saw this and thought of you.

Keep the thread alive.

Fuck the pain away.

>>77759609
It's like 70% off this weekend. Get it fast.

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here's the 7 demigods that preside over the world in my comic. hammered out their designs a couple hours ago. they're all muses except for the underworld one.

>>77761081
Neat.

>>77761081
All I see of flame princess, marcy, peridot and garnet

>>77761307
flame princess i can see

>>77761081
The one in the middle right is giving me major SU vibes. That's not a good thing.

http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/134092597140
nothing in particular

>>77761307
>flame princess

Okay, I see.

>marcy, peridot

What?

>garnet

Are you underage?

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>>77761370
It's very relieving being able to reuse old backgrounds.

>>77761365
you need to go somewhere else now
>>77761338
>>77761385
yeah that is the only comparison of merit, but to be fair that is what fire is shaped like, and orange is a fire color..

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Here's a WIP of the next page!

In a new and improved page size too! (I stole the page size from Poppy)

Now 25% more annabeth per page!

>>77761469
You're blind if the one with the same sunglasses as the SU afro girl doesn't look like an SU character to you.

>>77761927
>You're blind if the one with the same sunglasses as the SU afro girl doesn't look like an SU character to you.


What?

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>>77761952

>>77761983

Yeah, It look like a sun with glasses.

>>77763977
It's gauche to bump your own thread, you know.

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>>77763977

Thank you for bumping this thread, Dewd.

I know this might vary a lot, but What's the absolute best program for making a webcomic in your respective opinions? What other program does it work well with (someone might prefer to import work from one program into another to further modify it etc.)

Why do you think so?

An example I've seen in these threads is :

Manga Studio: Has Stabilization. Checked it out and it's pretty awesome for tracing sketches

>>77764288

From what I've seen, this is what each of the top choices favor:
>Comics/Manga - Manga Studio/Clip Studio (same program)
>Drawing/Painting - Paint Tool Sai
>Overall - Photoshop

There's no wrong answer but Clip Studio is on sale for $15 right now. If you want a Photoshop, Gimp is a free alternative. Not as good but still has a lot of the features.

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So I got an idea watching some earlier episodes of The Simpsons and I always wanted to bring it out

A 3-4 panel comic where a person opposes against a forced subject with his own rightful independent thoughts about it.

The last panel will always be the "antagonist, or person forcing the subject" of the strip pushing a button saying "INDEPENDENT THOUGHT ALARM".

pic related, a shitty draft made 0 hours in MS Paint

thoughts?

>>77764415
do you frequently laugh at a series of jokes with the same punchline, anon?

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>>77764457
y-y-y-yes

my guilty pleasure

>>77764415
You can't really count it as you "having an idea" if it's literally a ripoff and plagiarization of their punchline.

It's also a reaction image so good luck passing it off as yours

>>77764485
well then have fun. maybe eventually you'll spin it off a bit. Count Your Sheep and Brawl in the Family both started out with variations on the same joke, then branched out

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Hi, how's /hyw/ today?

I wanted to ask about a couple of things. First, does anyone have any advice on managing color schemes? Whenever I start a new scene, I have a lot of trouble picking them out, so I usually take vague colors from photographs.

I was also wondering about lighting. Most of my pages have really low-contrast lighting because it's easy (and easy on the eyes?), I guess. I want to practice more dramatic lighting, but I don't really know where to start. Thoughts?

And here's the newest page of my webcomic (Bicycle Boy). I skipped posting a couple before this one because I wasn't super fond of them.

>>77757835
what does "don't reply to bones" mean, I am kind of new to these threads, I enjoy the stuff you guys create

>>77764899
don't talk about it. if it happens youll know. if it doesnt, no problem. if by talking about it you give him attention, you'll feel like a heel

>>77765022
You coulda just said it's some trip and then I can add it to the filter if it's that bad

>>77765075
he constantly changes his name for that specific reason

Finished this page!

>>77765325
>forgot to post page

Every
Fucking
Time

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>>77765352
Sorry, I'm kinda in a rush.

But hey, it's only one post our of 500!

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More on the "pitching a tent" story.

http://ennuigo.smackjeeves.com/comics/

>>77765500
hehehe. pitching a tent. i get it now

hmm i just realized the inspiration of the platypusbear. when viewed just right, the lips make it look like the nose is the whole snout.
it aint much of a punchline but who doesnt like seeing a man fight a bear for no reason? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dJSRUw-978

>>77765500
>bears aren't great climbers
They're lucky Hashim decided to fight instead of wait
https://youtu.be/dPnp3fLOER8?t=30s

>>77765889
oh wait a minute
i thought i was posting the scene from that freakazoid episode..
oh well that's good too

>>77765891

I remember that one time, I almost fuck a bear.

i've just had a random revelation about something in literature
in addition to it sucking if someone is too powerful/perfect, it also sucks if someone KNOWS how powerful they are, so that they're never scared of anything

>>77765500
Bears are amazing climbers

>>77766382
Check out one punch man, dude

>>77766405
I will definitely remember this for all future comics about bears.

That sounds facetious but it isn't.

>>77766511
if there are two undeniable facts about bears it is that they are lousy climbers and that they are amazing climbers
with animals that is how shit works sometimes. just look at cats

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Moonlit Brew has now updated with pages 4 and 5! Please check out the Google Docs document for the links.

>>77760018
Cheers!

>>77767651
lookit these elite beat agents-ass motherfuckers

>>77765500
>>77765891
>>77766405
>>77766511
Just google it. Grizzly bears can climb, black bears can't.

I've been looking into making some sentai, so I was throwing ideas on how should I approach it.
>Island city find a new source of energy, a mineral or something
>Independs itself from the mainland country it belonged (I won't probably use any real location to make my job easier)
>New energy means superior weaponry that supports its independence
>A few years laters, monsters start attacking the island
>A group of heroes is formed to stop the threat
>MC is a big fan of these heroes
>He finds out his friend and other guys from school are said heroes
>Eventually, he gets involved in the attacks of the monsters
>Since he's always mixed in the fights, they make him some sort of tactitian to lead how they should attack

So, basically, they make him an honorary member because it makes easier to protect him if he can contact them when monsters appears, but he doesn't do any of the fighting, nor he's the leader, he's like a groupie in a rock band, but the story still focuses on him.
I was thinking of making him some sort of pacifist, who tries to avoid killing the monsters, and diminish the damage to the city or something like that.
I have some more stuff in my mind, but that would be endgame stuff.
What do you think of it so far?

I still need to think a design, I'm not very fond of the usual tokusatsu clothing, so I may go on my own with the costumes, but still keeping it as sentai as possible.

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It's Saturday, and you know what that means!

What do you guys think?

>>77769655
I think that by combining pretty, athletic women with classic superhero stories you're inevitably letting the former overshadow the latter.

Or that might just be me, I'm one of these guys who want to shape their story just so I can have an excuse to draw more pretty women.

Either way, miss capoeira there is pretty cool.

>>77761469
You can't seem to take critique very well. If everyone in this thread thinks your character designs look like obvious ripoffs of something else then whatever readers you manage to get will see it too and you'll keep getting the same feedback until something changes. You can't prevent that by going "nu-uh, go away!".

>>77764288
>>77764399

Manga Studio is specifically geared towards making comics (it's what I use). That's it's primary purpose, unlike Photoshop's jack-of-all-trades approach. If you just want one program that does everything, instead of switching between two or more, then choose Manga Studio/Clip Studio. And right now it's on sale this weekend for just $15.

FireAlpaca and MediBang Paint are free, and also have tools specifically made for making comics (page set-up templates, etc). FA and MBP are virtually identical, but MBP has more features, and if you create an account with them you can benefit from cloud file storage and sharing (you can work on a picture on both desktop PC and Android tablet, for example). Not as fully featured as Photoshop, but great for making lineart sketches and comics.

God, I need to finish my comic page.

No matter what! I need to finish it or I'll die.

>>77769655
I like the idea that the daughter seems to think her mom is "totally lame " but adores Miss Melee.

>>77772072
Thanks! You'll be seeing more of that relationship in coming issues.

Soon it will be 2 years since I decided to make a comic and one year since I started the first pages.

I am no further ahead in anything but minor worldbuilding details. I have to wonder if this is a doomed enterprise.

>>77772312
Post a link to your comic anon!

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Starting to get some ideas together and in detail.

>>77772369
Why are their lips so big?

>>77772521

Cus thats the way I like it.

Why do anime cunts draw birds with gigantic fuckin eyes and fuck all nose?

Because it's sterile and I like the taste.

>>77772588
No need to get all aggressively defensive. The guy just asked.
Your eyes aren't exactly small either.

How about your rather tell us what your comic-to-be will be all about.

>>77772312
what that guy >>77772355 said

>>77772521

Imagine the blowjobs.

>>77769030
isn't it usually the other way around?

>>77769577
i like a lot of things about that, especially the interesting way of handling the usual cliches like 'that one guy who's always in the middle of shit'
works for me man
as for outfits i'm most fond of metal heroes but that's harder to draw eh

>>77769655
shading on eyes has always seemed weird to me, but especially how it tends to be the shadow of the brow, but it makes the eyeballs look concave..
anyway this is pretty neat. i've seen a lot of artists do the 'action doubles of the character aren't shaded until they land' and it never occurred to me til now that that was sort of to save on work.. i just thought it was meant to make them look transparentish. they used to do it in spider-man a lot.. Of course they DO still get drawn in much lighter colors sot he transparentishness is there too, so maybe it's both. either way something i never analyzed before, and you just made me pay attention to it. I learned a thing

>>77772072
i will never get tired of that dynamic. It used to be a lot more common, back in the day when it was still kinda hip to think your parents were lame. I think at one point Krusty was going to be Homer

>>77773051

Yea but it's sterile and I like the taste.

About the plot?

All the characters in the picture belong to a culture(s) descended from a race of space faring "humans" that crashed on the planet which they currently reside.

The present time in which above characters live in is some 300 years after the crash, where their people are beginning to slowly lose the knowledge and science of their ancestors and have already become quite primitive by comparison.

On this (Did I menrion mostly desert) planet also exist several warlike tribes of indigenous "humans" who though their technology is not nearly as advanced as the "Sky people", seemto have once been somewhat advanced. Evident to their toting around of firearms and driving of fossil fueled vehicles. Though the natives are still very primitive.

There are also several non human lifeforms o the planet. Most are fauna... But some are intelligent, sentient beings that pose a danger to both groups of humans.

>>77773440
>On this (Did I menrion mostly desert) planet also exist several warlike tribes of indigenous "humans" who though their technology is not nearly as advanced as the "Sky people", seemto have once been somewhat advanced. Evident to their toting around of firearms and driving of fossil fueled vehicles
Oh, it's Mad Max.

>>77773132

The lady in the middle would give the finest of blowjobs, and she would be eager to do so I assure you.

>>77773461
I thought it was the middle east.

>>77773461

Ahahaha yea, every post apocalyptic waste land in a story is Mad Max.

Fuck, mad max has laser guns, aliens and psychics in it too doesn't it?

>>77773496
Getting this defensive about your ideas is not a good thing.

>>77772588
because neoteny is beauty

>>77773440
if it's a desert then why does everyone wear big, heavy, stuffy, robes.

>>77773572

When you get attacked, it's generally a good idea to defend.

I uploaded a drawing, posted a premise. Anons felt the need to find fault with it, I felt the need to stick up for my concepts.

Should I have ripped up the drawing and abandoned the idea because a few of you didn't like it?

Threads called "Hows your webcomic going?", not /IC/.

>>77773634
We're not attacking you, we're critiquing you. Critique is very much welcome in this thread.

>>77773634
>Anons felt the need to find fault with it
>what is constructive criticism
christ dude

>>77773600

Because the girl in the grey and the lady in the blue still belong to a though declining, still technologically advanced society where such conviences as air conditioning and underground quarters are quite possible.

The young woman in the white and black is wearing a sari, like womens clothing in real world india where at certain times of year can get very hot... Yet women still wear it,

The tall, woman in the black is a warrior and is wearing a military uniform that is stilll pretty loose.

But yea, no one wears robes in the desert. Should tell the Arabs to stop the ridiculousness.

>>77773496
i like aliens and psychics in my desertpunk. good for you

>>77773648
eh. there was a mixture of critique and an attack on taste. this guy is at least getting a much colder welcome than he deserves
and nobody yet has gotten to the genuine core of the issue, which is that the art is still very naive and juvenile and needs fundamental work

>>77772369
your art seems quite stiff and awkward but i doubt you'd really take any of what I say to heart as you're quite an abrasive asshole

>>77773729
well the idea with flowing robes in the desert is to wear enough cloth to shield you from the sun but it still flows around you and lets air circulate. Obviously you're not yet at the level where you can draw flowing cloth, so you've drawn stiff thick robes.. which look a lot cooler, but aren't as desert-appropriate. You'll get there though, worry about that later. though there's no reason you couldnt just make it a cold desert if you wanted.

>>77773648

Think theres a difference between normal constructive criticism where you find fault.

Apposed to a bit of the attitude I'm finding here where people are going out of their way to call fault on what I've posted.

>>77773496
Woah dude, there is no shame in being compared to Mad Max. There's shitloads of desert themed apocalypse punk stories, with weaponized vehicles or not, and they all still have their unique differences from each other.
I was really quite honored when someone likened /my/ comic to Mad Max, because Mad Max is cool, so I don't see why you're upset.

>>77773786

And you're an abusive one.

>>77773816
i think, like many attitudes, that 'tude is trying to 'make up for something'
in this case they are so desperate to avoid hugbox that they get hostile with anything that triggers their 'this is so bad' itch.
but it is pretty bad, guy. I think you know that. you're just looking for help, not just a list of which parts are bad, right? Some actual help that helps you improve

>>77773833

I love Mad Max, just kind of felt that particular poster was trying to call unoriginality. But... Sure this post could be turned against me too.

>>77773846

Well that would be better, thank you.

But I still like them big lips.

>>77773876
I'm not going to nitpick anyone elsems posts, but yeah it can sometimes sting a little when you make up a big cool sory world and the first thing you hear is 'oh hey that looks just like x!' , but don't worry about it too much. Nothing is truly original. Everybody takes their inspiration from somewhere. Should your story resemble another, that's totally fine, just as long as they aren't carbon copies.
But y'all probably know this already

>>77773945

You saying my story is a cartoon copy of Mad Max?

>>77773780
No, it was 100% critique. Don't pull a Dobson on us.

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My idea is about a band of elite magically enhanced mercenaries in a mediaeval fantasy world.
Think Berserk meets the Avengers.
Pic related is one of the characters who's design I'm most proud of. He's not a part of the group however but a side character.

>>77773904
well keep practicing and someday we may have another peter chung on our hands

>>77773994
people are unfair and assholey on that guy too. he may be a douche but that doesnt excuse it. well maybe that excuses it, but it doesnt negate that theyre being assholes

>>77774248

What means Peter Chung?

>>77773051
>>77772355
Can't post anything, I decided to wait until I had a buffer ready to avoid being one of those comics that posts 5 pages then dies.

>>77774305
You shouldn't post about your webcomic in this thread if you don't have anything to show us. That should be a rule.

>>77773981
At no point did I say this. I said if your story resembles (or draws inspiration from) another one, there's nothing to be ashamed of. Every new story will resemble other, older stories.
But IF your story (or anyone's story, for that matter) were a carbon copy of any already existing story, it would be uncool, and people would call you out on it.

It's ok, dude.

>>77774523

What about Clown school?

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Here's a WIP of the next page!

>>77774436
Because these threads are positively speeding along and definitely need less posters. It's so tiring to come back 1 after an hour and find out that you've missed 3 threads.

>>77774973
>Rank B super hero
Ahhh, so this time it's One Punch Man you've been watching, huh?

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>>77775269
Power rankings existed for superheroes before One Punch Man, you know.

>>77775383
Dewd, stop sockpuppeting and just admit what you did.

>>77773265
Thanks for your insight. I think the costumes will be Tokusatsu-ish, but I don't want helmets. I may use some kinda of clothes that adjusts to body size with metal armor or other stuff here and there.
So far, I have ideas for the leader, who will be the classic big guy, who will probably use a cehst piece for armor, elbow and knee pads and some face accesory that helps hide his face. He will be always loud and earnest.
I have a sniper girl, who will have a cowboy hat because why not, I wasn't sure if making her always chewing gum, and her costume would have armor on her shoulders and waist. She would be silent most of the time, with her feet over tables or somehting.
I have a slender speedy guy too, but I wasn't sure if I had to give him a spiky hair, I wanted to make him kinda impulsive and like the little brother of the group.

I have two more "slots", but I'm not sure what kinda characters would fit in.

>>77773600
In countries like Bolivia, people use heavy, stuffy ponchos to protect themselves from heat.
I still don't know how is that supposed to work, but I've been told in dry heat, it's the best way to protect yourself from heat.

>>77774973
That hip line... I like my men manly for the most part, but this sure gives me second thoughts.

>>77775383
Putting Cap along with DD, HE and Wolverine.

Those were the days.

>>77775688
Not everybody who defends Dewd is Dewd, anon.

>>77774275
the artist behind Æon Flux and Alexander Senki

>>77774436
if you're asking for help with the art and don't post the art, yeah, you're yanking our chains
if you're having trouble getting started and you're simply posting to lament that, what's the prob?
>>77775048
DRIPPING with sarcasm. i wanna eat thanksgiving at your house if you can do something similar with foodliquids

>>77777193
A lot of the depression posting in these threads seems to be people posting about their comic that doesn't exist, AKA trolls.

>>77775855
after a certain doublepines drawing i have to admit tokusatsu looks really nice without helmets. it's sad because helmets are awesome, but.. limiting!
if you're going to go the non-standardized route, you're gonna end up with something a bit more rankin-bass-lookin'.. and that's cool.
when I do tokusatsu I try to play off the typical roles.. coolguy, big guy, token girl, token little kid.. those are fun.
>hip line
what, annabeth's? ohoho

>>77777279
that's not trolling dude, that's bawling. it's cool

shit a hell of a get is coming up..

stonesofanarchy.org
Currently working on this page, the only panel I finished.

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>>77777389
fuck I forgot to post picture. fuck.

>>77777389
There's a certain almost biblical poetry to having a rock get mad at another rock for bringing him water, and huck the glass at him, causing him to bleed, and he respects him for that.

>>77777389
Funny title gif. Okay navigation, though a duplicate below each comic would be appreciated, as would the ability to click on the comic and automatically move to the next.
I feel like normally I wouldn't like this but somehow it's growing on me.

Webcomiiiiiics

>>77773634
>When you get attacked, it's generally a good idea to defend.
If that's your reaction to critique or feedback that isn't praises you're not suited to work in any creative field.

If you make a postapocalyptic comic with the description you provided people, your future readers included, are going to draw parallels to Mad Max whether you like it or not. Getting mad about it is only going to give you a bad rep.

>>77775269
Don't worry anon, rankings will be explained a little more on the next page.

>>77777279
>people posting about their comic that doesn't exist
It's almost like depressed people have issues with motivation and completing tasks, like some kind of depressed person.
>AKA trolls
That's not trolling. Trolling is not 'making bad posts'.

>>77779221
You're wrong. Trolling is the square to bad posting's parallelogram. Trolling is making bad posts, making bad posts is not necessarily trolling.

>>77779300
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Ai4G6ccfA

>>77779300
>Trolling is making bad posts
Not necessarily. You can make a perfectly good post knowing full well that it'll kick off an argument that will amuse you. This would constitute trolling without making a bad post.

You're still broadly right though - 'not all bad posts are trolling' is the most important part.

>>77779397
>You can make a perfectly good post knowing full well that it'll kick off an argument that will amuse you
Nah m8, that's "banter."

>>77779565
nah, banter is like when you insult your m8 but it's ok because he's your m8 and he does the same to you.

>>77779643
4chan banter and normie banter are different things.

>>77779744
Dunno if this has been asked before, does he have cauliflower ears or are you merely giving them less detail?

>>77779833
less detail

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>>77777498
my web dev is working on those still, the sites all fucked lol

Also have a work in progress page

>>77780166
Ah okay. I thought it might have been to imply that he was some kind of boxer/martial artist.

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Finished this page!

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>>77781560
Was not shading the last panel part of your plan?

>>77781853
>implying dewd even looks at anything he draws

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>>77781853
dewd?

>>77781853
Yeah, it was a gag panel, so I thought, eh, fuck it.

I mean, did you even see how small I drew sora in that last panel?

>>77782117
Come on man, just shade the damn panel. Don't be lazy.

>>77781991
No, that was me, forgot to put my name.

>>77779744
ahhh very clever. get the authorities involved, you can escape unnoticed.
>>77780166
Just a tip: if you want simple undetailed ears, draw a rough backwards question mark shape, starting with the > shaped bit you drew, and connecting it to an arch going over the top, and just stopping there. You can leave out the rest.

>>77782117
hahaha i did not notice tinysora
also sora's crush on annabeth is fucking adorable. i think that could be a consolation prize if she doesnt turn out to be a grill.

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>>77781903

>>77781193
btw, reading from the beginning, i just got to 'animation 2'
i dont remember a 1. seeing as there's no archive page, you wanna check that out maybe? did i make a stnank?

>>77757643

To put it simply, Rock Music, Medieval technology in Space, Metal Dragons, and a huge mystery behind the disappearance of an entire civilization's people without a trace.

If that sounds interesting to anyone, I could post more.

I must warn you I'm not the best writer.

>>77785429
sounds okay to me, but that's just a premise

>>77777903

Not suited to work in any creative field?

I draw pictures, and I enjoy doing it. I don't do it for money, because as previously stated I'm not good at it.

But on the flip side, I know the difference between critisism thats just being honest and comments made to take someone down a few notches.

And fuck you, if I'm can't take critisism in a mature manner I'll keep drawing anyway.

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http://ennuigo.smackjeeves.com/comics/

I dunno what it was about this strip but I just could NOT get the faces to look right for the life of me.

>>77785778
>I know the difference between critisism thats just being honest and comments made to take someone down a few notches.
even the people giving it can't always tell the difference. it's best to acknowledge that you might make a few mistakes in judgment along the line, too, and give the benefit of the doubt. at worst, you'll shame the person trying to hurt you

>>77785691

The universe is set after a big galactic war, the fallout of which crashed onto a planet with primitive humans. The humans believed these artifacts to be from the gods, and through trial and error ( and many deaths ) the advanced technology was so user friendly that the civilization learned how to ( very crudely ) use some of it.

Differences in opinions as to how these God Artifacts should be utilized resulted in the largest war their world had ever seen. The victor of this world war earning claim to the objects and the burden of discovering what they all meant exactly.

The first order of business for scholars under the new ruling Empire was to understand the words of the gods, and learn how to speak and read them. While a complete understanding of God Speak was never found, they did eventually learn the phrases used to activate certain machines; Some of those machines being a few of the space ships that were still functional.

So, the first humans embarked on a journey into the heavens; What they found instead was a Great Darkness. Common people assumed the Great Darkness to be something akin to the River Styx for the heavens -- a great pathway into the afterlife.

It didn't take them long to realize this pathway to the heavens meant death for the living, It was assumed the Great Darkness was full of lost souls trying desperately to join the living again, so they would frantically try to drain the life out of anyone they could get their hands on.

After a few failed attempts, they gained access to a large dormant ship in orbit still mostly intact that they named the Emperor Ship. The ship has access to a large stock of colonization tools used by the previous civilization.

It was at this point that the Emperor determined the destiny of his Empire was to extend into the heavens and meet the gods face to face. At which point, every single man and woman under his rule would become the equivalent of a god.

>>77785907
if there are two things that are hard, it's hanging-open animal jaws and human eyes where the cheek is raised up

>>77786073
primitives in space. i dig it.
so if it's not the river styx, why does this darkness kill people? and what is it? some kind of startrekky space anomaly thing?

>>77785907
Only problem I can see with that image is that the girl's face is disproportionately excited looking compared to what she's saying.

>>77786140

The people believe that not all souls can make it to heaven, and most get stuck in the Great Darkness. Again, they cling to life by trying to drain it out of any living thing that they happen to see.

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>>77786073
>>77786140
>>77786204


The actual story is called Space Bar'd

It's a Comedy primarily with some Action and Drama in there too.

The style is medieval with a tinge of Retro-futurism.

>Sent on a fake divine mission by a Duke who grew annoyed with them, a Jester (Rohesia) and a Bard (Peyton) must carry a large group of priceless "God Artifacts" and place them at places of "power" across the galaxy. They asked not for riches, or fame, but for the chance to play a show on the Emperor Ship; The only place with the ability to send audiovisual messages to every settlement. Along with carrying out their divine mission, Rohesia and Peyton decide to turn their travels into a tour of sorts; trying to play at every single tavern in each settlement they travel to. With stars in their eyes it was easy for the two "heroes" to overlook the danger hauling a bunch of priceless - yet equally useless - artifacts puts them in. The two seek the help of a Thief named Berta, and a Swordsman named Colin to accompany them on their journey which will take them to the ends of the galaxy.

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>>77786262

The Character Peyton posesses a God Artifact which has the ability to play an electric guitar using a standard keyboard peripheral. This Artifact is essentially a rock band rolled into one back mounted terminal; Equipped with an ejectable microphone, built in amps, and plethora of pre-made percussion samples. The Duke of Rhoads hates the sound of Peyton's artifact, yet Peyton insists on trying to prove himself to the Duke in the hopes of getting a gig performing for him.

>>77786204
right that's what they believe, so my question is what the hell is it actually
or if you dont wanna give the scifijargon, what is the phenomenon?

>>77786301

It's space. More specifically how the explain the phenomenon of oxygen being blown out of a ruptured hull, and people not being able to breath the air. To them the vacuum of space is an aggressive being.

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>>77786294

Rohesia loves to sing comedic folk songs, and was appointed to the Duke in the attempt to "lighten him up" after he was reprimanded for having too many hangings. Unfortunately every single one of Rohesia's songs make fun of the Duke in some way. It's a huge hit with the populace, but not so much with the Duke.

>>77786005

True enough.

>>77786344
ohhh i got ya. So they got to space at an accelerated rate due to this technology they figured out, but the deadliness of the vacuum of space hit them hard
that's actually really interesting, i'd love to see how this pans out

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>>77786369
>>77786294


(Some random sketches.)

Berta joined the crew under the guise of a trader with an interest in showing them how to survive on the "road". In reality, she's taking the God Artifacts from every place of power shortly after they've placed them, and flipping them for profits.

Colin is a self-trained Swordsman. learning everything he knows from training with a dummy. Equipped with an extremely low self-esteem, he wonders if he'll ever really be good at what he does; Yet he continues to throw his body into the fray looking for something to prove himself, and this divine mission sounds like the perfect opportunity.

>>77786443

They brute forced their way into everything and literally stumbled upon a way to deploy pre-built settlements from the Emperor Ship.

One of the settlements named:
"MY FIRST SETTLEMENT (125)"
(Colloquially referred to as "One Two Five")

Is a mash up of ill-informed settlement building from the initial discovery of the Emperor Ship. There are plenty of these scattered across The Great Darkness, but this one is one of the most popular. The architecture makes no sense, halls that just end up in dead ends, domes on top of domes, it was very much the work of one who had no idea what they were doing. This particular settlement became a home to a plethora of criminals, and is generally thought to house a lower class of citizens.

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Now that the literal filler holiday is done, what are you guys' plans for Christmas involving your comic? Anything special?

Here's hoping I inspire anything.

>>77786697
that is hilarious

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>>77786697

Suits of armor are placed over the futuristic form fitting space suits. I'm still on the fence about this one mainly because it depends on the futuristic "invisible helmet projected from the collar" thing. There's probably a way to design something better.

>>77786821
Nothing for Christmas. Maybe Valentines Day if I'm still doing this.

>>77786846

Thanks, I'm having fun writing up all sorts of ideas for settlements.

>(Haven was discovered when travelers echoed the Emperor's mission into a ship's voice activated navigation systems hoping they'd be taken straight to the Gods' door step. What they found instead was a horrifying beast never before thought to exist.)

>Haven is a rather large city, taking up around 1,700 square miles of land, and all of it is in a state of disrepair with large gaps of sectors without power, without life support, or completely destroyed.

>A giant drone simply known as "The Metal Dragon" regularly feasts upon the city, consuming power structures to keep itself active. The drone also attempts to disable the ships of anyone foolish enough to travel to the city, and the survivors of those attacks have remained stranded in a barely functional settlement for generations.

>Not too long after the first settlers got comfortable they realized the Metal Dragon was slowly killing them; It was taking the power of the city little by little every two years to remain active. Because of the dragon's apparent hunger, they regularly attempt to provide offerings to the beast in the hopes that it won't return as often.

>No one that has traveled to Haven has ever managed to come back.

>>77786821
Series of gift exchanges that get progressively more strange and outlandish.

>>77786902
i would like to see something akin to helmets built to accomodate goggles and mouthpieces, and because they form fit around those, they preserve the airtight seal.
Like basically they found gasmask-like equipment, realized it could protect a person from toxic gas and smoke, and figured it was a kind of tiki to protect against miasmas.. the perfect thing to keep out the deep darkness. then they just built a helmet to go around it because you gotta protect yer head.. and just.. yknow, the gasmasks integrate fine into the suits and their oxygen equipment

>>77786821
ever since my comic stopped being daily, I kinda stopped doing obligatory holiday comics.. except 2 out of 3 years i've done a 4/20 special

>>77787073
'zat you, ennuigoguy? what do we call you anyway
because i could imagine those people getting into hilariously over the top gift-giving shenanigans what with the infinite money

>>77787101

Yeah, there was talk about armor being built around oxygen equipment and the like. There was even talk about somebody wearing a less form fitting "dated" astronaut suit with bulky armor fitted around it. The image I keep seeing in my head is one of an Executioner type brandishing a large axe. I'm not the greatest with designing armor, so I have a lot of drawing to do.

>>77787163
Yeah. I really should start namefagging in these thread.

Friend of mine suggested one gift as "Horse Dildo Cornucopia" whatever that means.

>>77787228
>whatever that means
having trouble with the concept?
>big-ass wicker horn thing, whatever the fuck those were historically
>jammed literally to overflowing with horsecock dildos

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Sorry, I am late for my dead-line.

>>77789461
helpful proofreading time!

Capitalize Jack
either "this loud noise" or "these loud noises"
and one would more commonly say "until the noise settles down"
is that a broken lightbulb thought bubble? does that mean a broken idea? thought bubbles should have little puffs that lead to someone's head so you know who's thinking.

>>77789579

Thanks...

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>>77779744

>>77790030
ships that automatically recommend you for commendations? bonzer. i like this future. though I wonder if the AI penalizes you with the same sharp senses that have yet to fill it in on the situation vis-a-vis the fleet
in any case, good job adding more detail to the ears, and nice job with the console rim lighting. Did you use a linear dodge layer for that?

>>77790166
It'd be a bit like getting recommended a video for viewing on youtube. AI recommendations only go so far, and AI's only a better version of our own. No AI sentience in this universe.

First panel with the shading I colored Walsh from his regular palet. Dropped a flat "shadow" over him with a multiply layer. Then added the highlight with a color dodge layer. In all subsequent panels I just color picked with the eyedropper from that first panel and just colored normally.

I've still got a lot to learn with Manga Studio 5. But it's much more efficient.

>>77790262
arr. i need to get my ass in gear and start using it. it's just so damn hard to bring myself to do it when i've already spent so long learning photoshop. It sounds stupid, but if I could only have someone edit the shortcuts for me so they're like the ones I have in PS.. maybe the brush presets..

This weekend I need to work on the script and layout for the new pages on my comics. Already have some Christmas images in the works. Going to do some quick and sporadic advertising while looking up other ways to advertise. Free ways.

I also need to work on getting people interested in my characters. It's only been seven pages so maybe I'm just being impatient.

How come a lot of you guys are great artists, amazing even, but as writers you sort of really suck

>>77793803

I'd like to think I'm a good writer but I'm working on some unfamiliar subjects so I don't think I'm at my best.

>>77793803
Writing is hard and mostly shows in the long run.
With art it's immediately apparent whether the art is good or bad.
You never know, some of these comics could end up being really well written by the end of them. I wouldn't count on it, though.

>>77793803
Who the hell is an amazing artist here? Not to be rude or anything, I like plenty of artists who post in /hyw/, but calling anyone here great or amazing is kind of over the top.

>>77775383
>Ironman up there with Thor and Hulk

How heroes fall...

>>77794156
Not you, since your post has no work attached to it.

>>77793803
they're webcomics, not Shakespearean novels

>>77786369
I'm always going to read that as "Rhodesia."

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>>77784453
ehuehuehue, it's not on the site or youtube and not really worth watching, it's basically an animated short of them about to go in the cave. It's probably on my newgrounds somewhere but I wouldn't bother.

I'll be streaming later on today if anyone's interested in watching, I'll post a link later

>>77794197
Why does that matter? Does my post in any way say or imply something that would need to be backed up by my own art?

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I-I'm getting somewhere, I swear!

Hey /hyw/, hope everyone's working hard on being the very best!

>>77764853
Colors are a weakness of mine too. I can do most basic things; but I'm not very good at setting the mood through colors
Man, I know I've said this before, but I really feel like I'm brisking through the story: Obviously from the reader's perspective it's moving rather slow because of weekly updates, but I'm happy I got to this point with very few hiatuses

>>77793803
Lack of experience mainly; I've been drawing for a while, bu this is the first time I've tried to tell a story of this scale; previously the MOST I did was a 7-page short.
That, and updating once a week means I have to cut some corners to the story for the sake of pacing so that I try to make each weekly update mostly satisfying

>>77769655
Heh, nice

>>77796276
THAT'S NOT BLUE BOARD FRIENDLY

>>77793803
When I was in school one of my professors told me that most artists are either artists who write, or writers who draw.

It's hard to get good at a craft. Even harder to get good at two.

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>>77796292
Aww shit, you're right
Here

>>77796402
Basically this. I spent over 13 years working on my writing to get to a level where I hope it's at least decent, I'm not going through that again just to get decent at art. My artist is the same way.

>>77794810
Doesn't stop you from writing a Shakespearean webcomic

>>77793803
I dunno, I think I'm pretty good at both. When I was younger I'd go through writing phases, then drawing phases, and eventually I just got decent at combining the two.

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New page tomorrow. For now I've worked a bit on a larger ink portrait of Sol, I definitely need to practice that. (It's webcomic related so it's okay to post, right?)

>>77796766
Who is this semen demon?

>>77796799
Character from my webcomic

---> skylightcomic.net

She's some sort of a professional salvager from the poorest levels of the megacity the webcomic's set in.

>>77796843
she looks cuddly as fuck with super soft hair and some truly heroic eyebrows.. though i wouldnt accentuate the philtrum quite so much if i were you.

>>77796992
Thanks. I agree on the philtrum, I have a tendency to over-work the hatching in general.

>>77797049
>skylightcomic.net
Your hatching looks good. It gives a good sense of texture and depth.

>>77793803
>he won't provide an example of amazing art

Alright then, post an example of bad writing and explain.

>>77797167
I'm not this guy but he wrote some honest reviews of some of the comics here (Dewd's comic, Green Knight, Vigor Mortis, Love Me Like an Autograph, and a few others) and explained his criticisms of art, writing, etc in detail... and he also writes The Sisters comic: http://brianreviews.tumblr.com/

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Some OC character that made up on the spot.

I love her design, So i decide to keep her around. Maybe give her a backstory.

>>77797421
Oh it's that fag? He's one to talk.

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http://thescratchingpost.cat/
I've been working on this, and I'm having trouble staying disciplined and drawing every day. I'm considering just setting timers for myself (for like half-an-hour or an hour or whatever) and dedicating that time to art and nothing but.

Any tips for remaining focused/disciplined?

I've improved my art enough in just these five panels that I want to go back and rework the first ones, but if I do that, then I won't make any forward progress argh

>>77798152
I don't think he was the person you were initially talking to here >>77793803, nor was I - I posted a link to his review site because you asked for examples of "bad writing" and explanations, which he provides there. He and his artist produce some of the best, most competent (and professional looking/reading) work in this thread, so I don't get what ya problem is. He isn't an asshole in his reviews - he has thoughts about these works and then reasonably rationalizes them.

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>mfw that guy who does monstruous comic doesn't post here anymore
>mfw I can't catch a glimpse of his buffers anymore
>mfw I can't even talk to him anymore

>>77798375

You mean the bones guy?

His art was okay.

>>77798375
you probably could just message them on tumblr on something. i didn't realize they stopped posting here, but honestly once somebody carves your characters into a pumpkin, unprovoked, you've pretty much made it.

>>77798198
You just gotta do it. I know that is not helpful at all.

I've updated Ennui GO! every day for over two months now. There's been some days where I REALLY do not want to make a comic, but I force myself to anyway.

Consistency is huge in webcomics.

>>77797896
>original character character

>>77797421
I wish he would review my comic.

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>>77798504
No idea of the author's name, it's this comic http://monstrouscomic.tumblr.com/.

>>77798560
The think is that here I can talk shit that I can't there, and he can say things here that he can't there either.

The art is nice and the pacing ain't bad, feels so bad every time I look at the empty comment section.

>>77798647
I think he takes requests.

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>two away from devil trips
Fucking hell

Anyway there was an A.I. thread on /tv/ not long ago and I'd like to know someone's opinion on the ideas I'm working on. Can I post here?

>>77798846
If it's webcomic-related you can.

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>>77798871
Well it is, I just have no idea when I'm going to publish it, since I like things to be really good before I put my name on it.

>semi-typical A.I. that achieves conscience but not emotions, slowly becomes more "human" by either learning how to simulate emotions or through adapting to be more efficient. Creates A.I. and has a "motherly" relation with those
>Humans that for survival stripped their organic bodies of flesh to the point where only their brain remains, heavily altered, to be more efficient. They slowly become less human to "evolve"
>A.I. overmind that's driven by pure instinct to evolve, it does so by imitating nature, mixing different traits from living creatures on its drones. Not really self aware.

>It's worth saying that the first and part of the second group are protagonists while the rest are either antagonists or a "force of nature" on the last case .

The first two are basically factions that will have important characters, for obvious reason will not.

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>>77798152
>Oh it's that fag? He's one to talk.
Well, I don't contest the first part I do take issue with the second. I'd love for someone to rip apart my work, I honestly would; that's how I have always grown as a writer. You need brutality to see what needs handling. And I admit, currently, our pacing is a bit off because we're sort of in a mid-headed-towards-end of season episode issue. Things are happening at their own rate, building off prior things, and it seems awkward but it'll hopefully work out when we get to the end.

I by no means think my work is flawless. I honestly don't even think much of it is that great. I think it is a decent installment for its genre, but that's not exactly hard to do. A lot of stuff in Urban Fantasy is very generic or over the top, and I think we've avoided part of that issue by focusing less on the usual route. You've got to have your Storm Fronts and Fool Moons to get to Grave Peril. You start off building the rules, and eventually you can enjoy yourself within them.

If you'd like to tell me why you don't like my comic (I've heard color palette and character design before), by all means inform me. I'm here to improve, same as anybody else.

>>77798647
Honestly a lot of it comes down to how long the comic is. I've got no issue binge-reading something long if I have the time, or if it happens to actually be amazing. Been trying to get back into reviews but I've been doing some client-work and consultant gigs, plus I'm moving in a few days.

Occupational hazards.

I've got a lot of comics I have half-finished or somewhat started reviews for, which I never finished up because they either rebooted (Lucky Hazard guy, your new stuff is a lot sharper and part of the reason I never published my look at your older stuff), or they were too short to really give a very thorough looking at despite me having thoughts on them, or they're too long and it's something of an imposing task.

But I do want to get back into it.

>>77799093
My comic honestly isn't long enough right now to warrant a review - the first issue isn't even over.

>>77799093
I just want to say that your advice has been very helpful, and I didn't know you were the guy who wrote the Sisters series!

But anyways, yeah, I've been trying to follow it, except that part about stopping the comic entirley, I'm in to deep to do that.

>>77799415
To be fair, your comic was a lot lot worse when I wrote that almost six months ago. You're making your forward a bit at a time and while I'd personally hold off a period of time and come back with stronger things, your system is clearly working for you.

So good on you there. And attempting animation is always a reasonable and worthwhile pursuit, if only because you're young and the more you develop now the more possible it is for you to be good later. I've seen worse work from kids in art school than what you're producing now, and I don't mean that as an insult.

>>77799287
Well what's it about anyway? General curiosity. Could always use something to read while I'm on the train. You have a site up?

>>77799078
Could be interesting. Maybe as a series of vignettes, as there isn't a real catalyst present in that post alone; but the dynamics seem interesting enough.

>>77799493
>>77769655
http://miss-melee.com

>>77793803
>How come a lot of you guys are great artists, amazing even, but
Name three people in these threads whose comics have amazing art.

>>77798375
He posts here from time to time, I think last week we had stuff from him, but it's true we don't get to see wips or anything related.

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>>77799493
Oh yeah, I'm alrady working on animations, like pic related, and I just did a story board for a short with a collaborative group.

And your talking about art college right? Then yeah, that's a pretty great compliment!

>>77799670

Well, You good at one thing.

Being fast...

>>77799493
I'm just talking about the way I'll deal with the topic of artificial intelligence on my work, I'm more than fully aware there isn't any narrative in there.

The story itself deals with a many other topics and concepts. So far I'm working on the outlines of the story-line and the basic rules of the universe so I don't get lost while writing. Another reason is so I won't end up going full retard like so many comics or mangas with the powercreep thing.

I'd still like to hear more opinions about those ideas though.

>>77799670
>Compliment.
More of an observation, but more positive than negative. I'm trying to be impartial. If it was 2003 your work would be visually on tier with early Bonus Stage. Keep at it.

>>77799559
I honestly thought you were further along in this. I like how you do domino masks. You get the expressive Spidey eyes thing going on with MM, and the tone seems sort of funny/comedic in a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles way (perhaps it's just poorly colored ninjas that conjures it up in my head). I can't really comment much given that anything I say could happen in the next few pages, but Janice looks in her mid-30s and her Driver's License is a nice visual gag. Mark has a Viewtiful Joe vibe going on, and Jackie is appropriately frumpy.

You've got the chops clearly. I'd say the only panel that really isn't great is your opening panel. If it is a county fair, I'd say you could've gotten away with pulling further back (avoiding the crowd/brush you use) and allowing you draw things in that are more colorful and eye-catching. It looks more like a farmer's market or one of those swap meets you buy antiques at from that panel alone.

Also watch how close your font is to the edge of the balloons . Panel 2 has that going on. And if you did color stripes/different colored tents you'd have a more interesting scene, especially with how blandly the trio are dressed (not an insult, they dress like normal people). Makes it pop a bit more.

>>77799857
Well the ideas work, they've been done before but what hasn't? Self-replication by an A.I. with a twist of wanting to care for the younger so it adapts in a more positive light could be interesting. Humans losing their humanity in order to live forever is transhumanism 101, but always fun to explore; especially if you maybe go a little Eternal Sunshine about it. You can revision everything about yourself and live forever, so who you once were is just data at the end of the day--that's kind of terrifying.

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>>77796410
Actually re-did the wave from scratch because I was REAL lazy in the original version.
This one took me little under an hour, but it was worth it because that version doesn't look as good

>>77799935
The first A.I. (let's call her MIA) is not self replicating, she literally creates new, different A.I.s

The humans became almost-robots to survive a threat, initially, not to be immortal. Then they split into two different groups with very different ideologies..

And the last one would be *almost* like the zerg or the tyranid, but on a robotic flavor.

>>77799493
You should look into doing some updates on a number of your reviews.

Some of them have improved dramatically.

>>77800055

I was actually going to to ask him that once I finished uploading Chapter 4 on my site; though of course comics he hasn't reviewed yet should get priority

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https://picarto.tv/StonesOfAnarchy
streaming if anyone wants to gander

>>77800030
You should replace all of the frog's dialogue with "ribbit" to make it more authentic.

>>77799935
Hey, since you're at it, do you think what I've done so far with the comic warrants a redraw? Is it too inconsistent, will it drive new readers away, etc.
I'm still very early in so I'm making new pages my priority, but so far I've been a little clumsy with handling the schedule.

http://sreedurra.altervista.org/comic/page-00/

>>77800055
Honestly considered it. Caught back up with some of the ones I read and a lot of things I had issues with were addressed. But it is an issue of time. Maybe if I have free time at the end of the year.

Love Me Like an Autograph is still going great, also helps to know the character names.

>>77800077
The Green Knight's improved and I really enjoyed the last two chapters. The Dullahan bit was nasty, and save for some paneling/lettering issues, it was evocative. The newer stuff is fun and I like the shift in tone and the new characters. I might have commented on that here before.

Res Nullius has improved a lot more than I anticipated and the color scenes have worked, which I didn't expect. I'd still personally give it more time before I reread it all, but the progress in a few months has been nice and a lot of my issues with it were addressed.

I'd like to reread Skal, but it makes me want to get back to my Dark Sun hack.

Carrion Girls is still a priority, once this arc is finished. Kiwi Day/N is a feat of strength, but I think the artist gets what he is doing though my end note right now for it (despite not being done) is that if he tried something a bit less ambitious it'd probably be a lot easier.

Procrastinating enough as it stands right now. Need to finish up some prose for a Sisters-related thing, do some client work, and get coffee. Hardest habit I've ever had to break.

>>77800130
I'd put them vertical, assuming that's how they're to be read. The 4 panel model, when horizontal; makes me want to read it horizontal.
Page 6, I'd have the merc look forward flabbergasted rather than between her legs (it's Farbeth who implied the bot escaped that way with his movement, makes the head under the desk funnier). Page 8 I'd have the bot land on her head, not neck; gives it more momentum + comedy + painful.

There's some awkward movements, but it isn't all that clumsy. Lot of dust on p1 panel 3, maybe more dust on panel 2 from the door?

one sec.

>>77800285
I'd say page 1, panel 3, loosen her jacket since she's just wearing it for that one panel so far; and it'd let the unveiling of her load-out seem easier. Too many buttoned buttons. It feels like, as it is now, that an unveiling panel is needed with a "woosh", but loosening it up can alleviate that.

Page 3, bottom panel; while I love the expression, it registers more "what the fuck" and less "I just did that, wow." She doesn't seem super pumped, or professionally pumped; she seems more confused as to her success rather than surprised by her success. If that makes any sense

Page 6, panel 2. "But trust me" should be "And trust me" his full threat is "As a Rogue A.I. you shouldn't exist...And trust me I can still make you wish you didn't." Just reads stronger with the "And".

>>77796766
That's all I got. I like blondie. She's cute and frumpy and looks trashy enough to live in this world.

>>77800398
Huh.
Sorry, must of misread the first pages. I didn't see the white border on the panels; or maybe I thought the background was white for some reason. Looks fine now, no idea why my mind just glitched out. Might be my browser sucking.

All I have to say at the moment, mostly because I need to work elsewhere. Seems interesting, I like the protagonist bot; she seems cute.

>>77798198
>Most recent Update
>Last Page
Am I missing something?

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http://ennuigo.smackjeeves.com/

Just finished a new page. Camping arc is almost done.

Since it's sunday there's gonna be a NSFW strip, which I'll probably post on /aco/ once it's done.

>>77800999

Dang, you are quick.

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I just updated this morning

http://www.smackjeeves.com/comicprofile.php?id=156436

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two new pages. trying a new update system so people can actually find the newest pages.
http://tapastic.com/episode/233082

>>77801182
>happening

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WIP of this page!

>>77801182
Oh boy, this is gonna be something.

>>77801850
Why did xir's arm get so small in panel 8?

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Creators only. Join to get help with software questions, marketing advice, references, and for the general discussion of webcomics in general

>>77801920
I was trying to do perspective, I can fix it.

>>77801961
What if I don't have something that can scan that weird 21st century bar code?

Also your post seems like blatant advertising.

>>77802008
Need to make the hand bigger and overlap the arm more to give it perspective. Also change the pose of the hand. It can't go out to the side like that if it's being pointed forward.

>>77802053
Ah, I see, thanks for the help!

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>>77802024
Thats because it is.

>>77800285
Thanks for the feedback!. I have tried going for a scrolling format on Tapastic but I like the double-page format better... Single page was too click-intensive for many to enjoy, so I guess this is the compromise I'm settling on.

The other things you said are spot on, I'll keep them in mind when I'll fix the older pages. Thanks!

>>77802346

>not calling the file *teleports behind u*

you wasted a huge opportunity there

>>77798198
oh hey i remember you. this stuff is still cute.

>>77798198
You have to get addicted to your work.. constantly stoked and excited to be working on it. i don't think you can force that, just associate it with good times

>>77800285
>The Green Knight's improved and I really enjoyed the last two chapters

Hey thanks! Chapter 3 and 4 were intended to be a bit more on the serious side, so I'm glad you think I pulled it off; actually means a lot coming from you.
Plus it's good to now people appreciate the tonal shifts, since I know some get turned off by that. But at knowing this makes me more confident to try new things.

Chapters 5 is going to be generally silly; more akin to the chapter with the Pixies (Chap 2), mixing action with whimsy. Chapter 6 is also on the more light-hearted side, though not as full on as chapters 2 and 5. Then chapter 7 & 8 are the "epic conclusion" to the first arc, which I'm actually pretty exited to get to since this is the furthest I've ever gotten with an art project

Did any of you guys tried using 3D software?

The story behind this is simple - I want to make crude models of a few recurring locations, so I can laze my way out by just pasting a proper angle of a given model/location and trace it instead of drawing it from memory or sketches.

So what I look for in a 3D rendering software is user friendliness and an intuitive interface. I don't need complicated features, texturing and so on, I just need speed and ease of use. Do you have any recommendations? I heard SketchUp used to be okay for this but it's no longer owned by Google so I don't know what state it is in now.

>>77804472
SketchUp is still good if you just want simple models for locations.

I want to do a comic, but I don't have any money for comic maker software or for a drawing tablet. How are the odds that people will call me out for just drawing a comic on paper with a pen, at least for now?

>>77804599
There is nothing wrong with making your pages out in an analog fashion.

>>77804599
Many people will find it less appealing than digitally made comics, but if it's good most won't care.

>>77804472
I use maya for most indoor locations. With maya you can also render light situations, so it makes the job even easier when it comes to drawing over it.

>>77799935
>Mark has a Viewtiful Joe vibe going on
i knew i knew him from somewhere, that's exactly who he reminds me of

>>77804599
As others have said, there's nothing wrong with analogue.

If you don't have a scanner, getting a decent picture of your artwork will be tricky, but not impossible. A proper camera will also be better than a phone/tablet camera. Just be sure that it's well lit and that light isn't reflecting off the ink, it's properly framed and not tilted, and is of a suitably high resolution.
There's plenty of free software to use for minor image correction and adjustment.

>>77800055
that's a goo' idea. at least a little check-in update blurb
>mfw my comic is so long i could get multiple reviews of my eras even if i stopped now

>>77804937
Thanks for the advice. Luckily I have a scanner, so that won't be a major problem I think.

I'm also relatively new to the whole fancomic stuff, could you recommend me one or two programs for adjustment?

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Slow and steady wins the race, I guess.

I wish I had more motivation to finish this faster, but it's just going so fucking slow ;_;

>>77800285
>less ambitious
i guess in terms of how fucking long the story is, but the actual art couldnt be more stripped-down.. hard to call that ambition. I do like how the simplicity allows me to practice a lot of weirder poses, and in THAT way i need MORE ambition because I think I can do it. also if I was going to shade anything, this would sure as fuck make that easier.. Might need to gradually work more of that in.

I do miss doing other projects.. I'm only just recently identifying what all the other things I make are: they're pitches. Not that I'd ever pitch any of them, but that's what they are. I like doing things where all I have to do is a bunch of drawings and then just write down a story, that way I pour it all into the art and have an excuse to study. Need to study. Hungry for it. Should probably try book-illustration

>>77801205
iunno if it's the backgrounds or what but i'm finding this art to be a lot clearer now

>>77804472
i would never want to carefully perfectly trace the 3d models, so I find that sketching it out roughly til it looks about right is good enough for me. Then again my 3d environs suck

>>77804472
>Did any of you guys tried using 3D software?
I tried using the manga studio dolls as reference, they were frustrating to use and taking photos of yourself is better. I never felt the need for 3D environments because I don't stick to precise floorplans (I stylize perspective for composition purposes) and 3D objects like cars or bikes usually suck.
These were all used as rough reference, tracing always gives very stiff results.

>>77805175
>art
I meant the story. The art isn't ambitious, and the simplicity works at times; though I think if you worked more on lighting it'd be a lot nicer to look at. Your story is long, and I can really see your exploratory process in it; but it's very branching and as someone mentioned in a previous thread when you had character family trees for an already decently sized main cast---I think you could work stronger within a smaller box, and possibly get more mileage out of what you're doing.

But I haven't finished reading your work yet, this was more of a casual thought I had while looking at it from a it back; and it hasn't really changed. It's just one of those things. Some people I've met who only want to do fantasy are amazing at non-fiction about their own lives; and they vehemently refuse to try doing that rather than just fantasy. And it sucks because at the end of the day everything is just themes and tone and style; it's all the same math. Just shave off some details and replace them around and you might find something else.

Not that I'm saying your stuff is bad either, that was more a general statement.

>pitches
That's always fun to do. I've got a nice ledger filled with things like that, lots of maps and theories for things. Mostly use it for /tg/ related ideas or story ideas I can't really work on in today's market. It can be refreshing, and sometimes if something works you should try to run with it. Trying to book-illustrate can always be a fun exercise; because it is so radically different than the usual stuff we do here. Or I do in general. Especially if it is for a different target audience, or a focused TA.

I did that once for writing. Writing books for kids takes a lot of research to get it to feel right. At least my research was Tim Curry reading A Series of Unfortunate Events, nice audiobook job.

>>77805436
Ohhh. I never realized my story was ambitious. On my end it was just lazy meandering, and before I realized it, all this shit happened. Like SO MUCH SHIT. Almost none of it planned.
But yeah the overflowing cast is just my Goo-esque tendency to bleed characters out of every orifice and every passing thought. It's.. characterrhea. That and, just like Xanth, my most major literary influence, everyone needs parents and a spouse and babbys ever after. Ima try to limit myself to just three for a while in the next iteration, totally unrelated to previous characters.. and then just stick Cal in because he'll be old enough by then and i have a lot of puns to use related to him
Yeah I so hear you, writing has to have a fun lemony voice to it.. but I was thinking of just letting my mom write it since it's her idea

>>77804472
I used to use DooM builder 2 (a mod maker for DooM) for indoor areas because i couldnt be arsed to figure out how to use anything else

>>77805767
you got to flesh out a whole level and release an official wad

>>77804472
DAZ Studio is a free, downgraded version of poser.

It's a bit tough to start, but once you get the hand of posing and setting the camera angles, you'll have a great, free tool for posing.

>>77800285
would you be open to reviewing any more comics?

>>77805224
thanks! i'm pretty sure it's because of the new outfits/new setting.

>>77805171
The poses look good. Considering he's laid back type of character, try giving him a lot of loose stuff hanging out from his clothes, unless he's a clean character.

>>77806101
Certainly. Might take some time, but always willing to give it a shot.

>>77806295
oh, neat! how should i contact you?

>>77806451
Send smoke signals.

>>77806451
just post it here, man. he'll see it

>>77806216

I don't want to add too much to his design, otherwise he's going to become a bitch to draw, especially considering how I've designed his arms.

He wears a loose cape over one arm, but I haven't drawn it onto this sheet yet.

>>77806451
Well you can send a note to the site here: >>77797421
Or you can just give me your comic address here and I'll mark it down and get to it when I've got the time and ability to do so; depending on how long it is.

>>77806502
ah. here it is. thanks for replying!
http://tapastic.com/episode/203975

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My roommate and I are working on a webcomic, he's the artist and I'm mostly the writer. We haven't really officially done anything with it yet, but he's finished the first 8 pages.

What hosting sites work the best for others around here?

>>77768856
Haha! I can imagine them doing something like that.

>>77806696
I own my own website and use Comicpress and that's what I recommend. I will always recommend owning your own website over using a third party host.

>>77806696
your roommate is a furry.

>>77800999
Your comic reminds me of Super Redundant... Both have good art and different kinds of characters.

Consider adding some/more running gags, something that repeats but with different variations. Now the running gags are the characters, but could we see something like the Nude Room revisited? Repetition helps remember the gag and the comic.

Also, could some outsiders, normal people visit the house and be terrified of what's going on in there? Now pretty much everyone has their quirks and they're getting used to her antics. Some outsider/normie character could bring contrast to this. The character with apparently big penis (can't remember the name) is kinda fulfilling this role, but kinda not.

Anyways, this comic has been pretty good/promising so far

>>77806696
this is interesting

>>77806787
>terrified outsiders
oh please do this. we need another Addams Family

>>77806500
Don't be afraid of designs; play with different ideas and see what clicks. Maybe the character is even more fun to draw if it has more interesting details on him.

You might have troubles drawing him now, but after a hundred drawings of him... you'll be doing it automatically, barely noticing.

The current concept is fine too, but is it as fine as it could be? Only you can tell.

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>>77805853
aw man, i made a couple of those back in the day
its a shame i never got around to finishing a wad or anyhting

>>77807031

If there's one thing I know, it's that the last thing you want to do is drown a character in unecessary details.

If you can get the character across in 10 lines, what's the point in using 20? You're just going to make it difficult for yourself when you don't need to.

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>>77805853
i just got to the third level and never went anywhere :(

>>77807145
>>77807199
That's definitely more user-friendly than the editor I was using years ago. Anyway, the problem with this and with Duke Nukem 3D's Build which I'm more familiar with is that they can't handle overlapping sectors (DN3D can use them but can't show them together and Doom requires both mods and tricks to pull it off), so normal software would be probably better if you want to put a table in your room.

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>>77807375
True; floors on floors are always a hassle

>>77805853
it's not really in a coherent map or anything, but this is what it is
the actual wad has bugs up the ass and it'd take a while to make it playable

>>77807169
Naturally, if there's no details to add that could benefit the character then you shouldn't put them there. But to me the character does look a bit barebones. How he'll look in the comic world and compared to other characters, I can't tell. Maybe he'll fit right in and it feels natural and right.

I don't know if it's the good place to talk about this, but I'd like to know how write a scenario for a comic. The only thing so far I did were simple things à la Cyanide and Happiness, with three or five panels and some half-assed jokes. Now I'd like to do a "bigger" thing, and start with a fancomic. I have a vague idea for the story, but don't know how to organize and pace it. Can anyone give me some tips on how to manage it?

>>77808015
>start with a fancomic
Here's some advice: don't.

>>77808127
It's just to get into the thing, actually. Also it's been years since I actually drew something relevant and it's not my main wish at all.

>>77806737
I'm sure having your own site is worth it's money but as far as free hosting sites goes, i.e. smackjeeves or something. Or is it the best of it's kind?

>>77808127
depending on the format that can be a great way to go
and sometimes you can start with a fancomic and modify it til it's your own
someday i want to do a prequel-type comic, and i'm definitely starting with hyrule as the setting. Mainly because my imagination seems by far the most fruitful there.. it's my playground, the place i spent the most time as a kid

>>77757643
>Do some exercises. It'll be fun.
I have discovered that I cannot so much as attempt to draw straight lines repeatedly without hating myself.
Somehow, I don't think I'm gonna make it as an artist.

>>77808451
Those who can't draw, write.

Those who can't write, become editors.

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Hello! It has been a while.. again.

Anyway it's nice to see you guys are still making comics. I just wanted to stop by and pay respects. The reason I'm so tardy all the time is because I've been working on some games on my spare time. Which is the time I usually take to draw pages.

Anyway, it's been nice seeing you guys again.

>>77808451
hold shift if it's a vertical or horizontal line, click and then shiftclick to make any other angle line
or if you're working analog, use a ruler! ain NOBODY can draw straight lines

>>77808015
Just write everything down and cut what doesn't add to the storyline.

>>77808466
I already write and I'm willing to not call it terrible. That's a major bit of progress from where I've been in the past.
In case it wasn't obvious, self-esteem is probably my biggest stumbling block.
>>77808570
I'm doing these exercises where I draw a line with a ruler and then go over it a bunch of times.
drawabox.com, if you're familiar.
Makes my hand and wrist hurt a bit, though.

>>77808698
dont do it til your hand hurts. you'll get your motor control eventually

>>77808669
The thing is, I don't know how to connect different parts of the story with each other, and even less how to develop them in a fashion that makes it a regular pace, you know? Like when you're storyboarding an episode to get always the same length. I feel like I don't know how to give my story a proper rhythm, at least when talking about a comic.

>>77808934

Read a good book, get some inspiration on pacing from that.