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http://comicbook.com/2015/11/24/fantastic-four-sequel-removed-from-foxs-release-schedule/
>Despite Fox's initial insistence that the Fantastic Four sequel was moving forward despite the box office failure of the first film, Fox has now officially removed the Fantastic Four sequel from their release schedule.

>Fantastic Four 2 was originally scheduled for a June 9, 2017 release date, even before the first film hit theaters. With virtually all superhero movies performing well at the box office recently, Fox probably felt confident at the time that Fantastic Four would follow suit. However, Fantastic Four wound up being the rare superhero movie flop. Fantastic Four only grossed $56 million domestically and $167 million worldwide on a production budget of $120 million.

>It's unclear if Fox removing Fantastic Four 2 from their schedule means the film is indefinitely canceled or if it will be rescheduled for a later date to allow more time for Fox to plan a strategy for what comes next.

In local news, water remains wet.
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Just once, just once, I'd like these studios to just admit they made a bad movie.

I get wanting to save face, but don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.
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Thank god. Im not really suprised exactly but I was worried the sequel would still happen
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>>77677968
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>>77677968
>rare superhero movie flop
>superhero movie
>flop
>rare
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>>77678002
but it's raining
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>>77677968
Guess the next time Fox can ruin FF is 2020, or whenever they need to have another film worked on so they can keep the license just to spite Disney.
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>>77678002

A few years ago one exec actually did, at Universal.

http://www.avclub.com/article/universal-studio-president-we-make-a-lot-of-shitty-64529
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>>77678128
They don't need to do anything to retain the rights until 2025.
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This just proves people still see these movies because they enjoy them and are generally well made. Truly bad ones dont get seen on name alone.
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>>77678234
>tfw Fantastic Four fan
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>>77677968
IS HAPPENING, DOCTOR DOOM IS COMING HOME BOYS!
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>>77678212
Past year wasn't that good for them either
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>>77678128
>implying Disney is going to touch a soiled franchise like F4%
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>>77678245

M8 this movie had a truly poisonous production history that everyone on the Internet knew about.

The last time a movie had this much public exposure of its production issues was, I don't know, The Lone Ranger? Ant-Man?
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>>77678265
>tfw Fantastic Four fan
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>>77678312
>Ant-Man
Only upset ones seem to be the orignal directors fans
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>>77678295
All they need is the Villains really.

The villains are fucking great.
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I went in expecting a huge turd and what I got wasn't even as bad as Iron Man 2.

Apart from just being kinda bland what provokes so much hate for this movie?

I almost think it could have been good if they'd amped up the horror aspects more.
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>>77678437
Because it fucks the mythos so hard its asshole is now in its throat.

it was also just an excuse for Trank to make Chronicle 2.
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>>77678422

Sure, I'm just saying the production issues were very public. Movie turned out pretty entertaining at least.

>>77678437

Because it's barely a movie. Fox cut so deep with the production the movie becomes 90 minutes of people sitting in rooms talking and watching the Saga Of Kate Mara's Wig. There's no character arcs or emotional resonance because it was all cut out in the editing room.

I'm not saying whatever Trank's original cut was would have been great, but it's at least a movie. I felt like Tranktastic was a collection of scenes where people talk in cramped rooms and then they get into the single worst superhero fight scene of the past 20 years, it's barely anything.
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>nolan favorite scene during the dark knight rises was the plane scene
i dont have the source right now but im sure someone can find it
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Marvel studios right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWRMSn63yb0
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>>77678624
Love that song. I'd just sit in the overworld to loop it
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>>77678624
kek I can dig it
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>>77678425
This. Not even Doom really, but the Skrulls, Galactus, and Annihilus would be much needed additions to the MCU.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Kang might be under that umbrella too
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Fox will be okay because they have other stuff to rely on besides Fantastic Four, like X-Men.

Marvel will be okay because they've steadily been adapting to not working with Dr. Doom and any other FF-related character.

Trank will be okay when public memory fades and people forget how much of a douche/whiner/scapegoat he was. Or he'll quit movies forever.

I will not be okay because Kirby/Lee FF remains my all time favorite run of Marvel comics and I cry bitch tears erry day arr day b/c the Galactus Trilogy will never be done justice.
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>>77678265
If it makes you feel any better Marvel Comics hasn't held the rights to these particular movies since 1984.

>>77678312
It's a FOX movie, have you seen the stinkers they've put out this year?

>>77678466
Which he could never do at FOX because he doesn't have the rights.

>>77678541
>There's no character arcs or emotional resonance because it was all cut out in the editing room.

I'm not aware that we have anything but Trank's word anything else was ever filmed.

>>77678595
???

He filmed that scene to showcase the ability of IMAX filmstock to other directors. He'd never have found the funding to do it any other way (IMAX is fantastically expensive compared to 35mm or digital, with negligible benefits to the finished product).

Apparently the six people he actually made it for viewed it and said "yeah, maybe, if I can convince the studio to spring for IMAX filmstock". Because even if Nolan were capable of making a normal length movie, he couldn't have afforded to do it with IMAX, and neither can anybody else.

I'm sure from a technical stand he's very satisfied with it, though it is of course garbage.

The reason he says "I'm CIA" instead of having a name is so they pay the actor less.
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>>77677968
Man, what breaking news. You mean we won't get anymore characters not interacting with each other, dark-as-fuck camera tint, awful effects, botched villains, and uncomfortable dialogue said by the heroes that sound like something villains would say?

Bummer.
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After finally seeing the movie on a 6 hour flight (it was this or minions) I'm convinced the whole thing was just the director intentionally made a bad movie because he hated FOX.
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>>77678002
It's an unwritten corporate rule that, in order to keep a professional image, you should never, NEVER ever admit you fucked up. Always come up with reasons why something failed but in a way that makes it seem it was not your direct fault.

See: Capcom explaining why DmC failed.
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>tfw my birthday is on June 9th.

OH thank god. I already had to deal with Cars being released on my birthday. I don't think I could deal with another piece of shit movie coming out on it.
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Please go to Marvel. Please go to Marvel. Please go to Marvel. Please go to Marvel. Please go to Marvel. Please go to Marvel.
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>>77678603
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>>77678735
>I'm not aware that we have anything but Trank's word anything else was ever filmed.

Magazines and behind-the-scene video reveal the fantasticar was supposed to be in the movie.

Likewise there was several bits of concept art.

Trank's cut was reviewed by Fox and they hated it so much the lopped off the ending and added the cartoon slap fight.
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>>77677968
Say

That

Again
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>>77678862
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IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME
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>>77678865
What was Trank's ending going to be?
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>>77677968
They fucking deserve it. It's their fault that Thing is rotting in "Kitty Pryde leads a bunch of imbeciles".
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>>77678921
NO BRO NO
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>>77678930

No one knows. Fox managed to keep a lid on everything that was in Trank's original cut.
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>>77678862
Where the hell did he get that statistic though?
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>>77678868
JUST
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>>77678921
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Obviously they held onto the sequel plans for a while because they didn't want people to think they were abandoning the franchise.

People would be even less likely to see the stupid movie if they knew there was no chance of a sequel. WB did the same thing with Green Lantern
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So what 's Fox's "plan" for the Fantastic Four? I could really use a laugh right about now.
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>>77678901
>mfw they were expecting blacks to go see this just because Jordan was in it
>mfw they hated it too
Anyone got that screencap of blacks trashing the movie on twitter?
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>>77678954
>>8%
>>Universe 8
MY GOD!
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Post YFW Marvel gets the rights back and casts Based Cavanagh as Reed fucking Richards
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>>77678959
I thought Trank was in "tell all, fuck those suits" mode on Twitter and what not.
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>>77679062
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>Trank was set to direct a Star Wars movie
>This movie literally cost him fucking Star Wars
Have you ever fucked up so bad?
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>>77679062
do it do it do it do it do it
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>>77679066

His spaghetti spillage was actually pretty small. All he said was "MY movie would have been amazing but no one will ever see it." or something to that effect.

Max Landis is the loud one of the team.
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>>77679005
Kek
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>>77679039
Black Twitter is the only Twitter that matters
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>>77678401
Read a comic faggot
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>>77679096
Don't think anyone ever has.
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>>77678624
This song is the shit. I used to idle on the overworld while smoking and surfing the net all the time.
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>>77678794
Dude, Trank lost a LOT because of this whole fiasco. It'll leave a permanent stain on his career, not only because the movie fucking sucked, but because of all the shit that happened during and after its development. This movie is many things, but an intentional fuck up isn't one of them.
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Fucking Fox just sell the rights to MCU.
Then cast >>77679062
The world will finally be a good place.
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They could easily fix the movie because of what happened in dofp
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>>77678437
>>77678466
>>77678541
According to Trank, and by looking how he acted in reports, it was supposed that the original film was a lot more coherent. What wound up happening was Fox saw what they'd greenlit and what Trank was doing, and instead of letting him finish his own product they paniced and mutilated his project, then they made him reshoot a bunch of scenes and he was just fucking miserable so he was just wrecking shit.

So basically Fox ruined what could've been a more interesting superhero movie, just to ape Marvel/disney and it failed spectacularly. Like a fucking supernova of shit.

They don't want to turn rights over to marvel despite two shitty f4 movies, Hugh Jackman wanting to be an avenger, and the x men movies without Magneto as bond being msotly shit.
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>>77679227
What the hell does that have to do with FF?
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>>77679141
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They should of hired a director/writer who actually read the goddamn comic. Or read any comic book.
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>>77678697
Trank will never be ok. This movie flopped so be it, but the entire time he was behaving really fucking shitty and before the movie even came out he said it sucked.

Noone will ever hire this dude again.
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>>77679257
Rewriting the timeline?
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>>77679229

>made him reshoot

I sincerely doubt that. Those scenes look completely different from the rest of the movie, I can't imagine he directed any of it.
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>>77679286
Completely different continuity
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>>77679257
He's trying to say they rewrote history in that movie so he thinks that it rewrote the history where they released a critically panned movie that no one will ever take seriously under that studio again.
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>>77679302
>Those scenes look completely different from the rest of the movie
>The fucking wig on Mara
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>>77679257
when the timeline rewrote they could just change it up like the first movie never happened without the same cast
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>>77679302
You're right, i think they forcibly brought in some no-name to reshoot a ton because Trank was a mess at that point.

What the fuck kinda company does that? You have so little faith in your product because it's not like a marvel movie and you just give it a hack job and a fuck my shit up and hope the public swallows it?

Didn't even have the decency to fault themselves they just blamed Trank.
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I've posted this a couple times but I waited on a few guys who worked on the reshoots of this movie, and ended up talking with them about it at length and got some funny anecdotes that haven't been covered by the media.

For example, at one point they were shooting a scene without Trank present, and somebody asked Kate Mara how she was doing. She responded "I'm good, I just need a director... and a script... and a better movie"
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>>77679062
I-I never knew how much I wanted this...
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>>77679229
I'd love to know what happened to the guy who greenlit the original Trank FF pitch. He or she shat the bed as badly as the person had the movie changed near the end.
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>>77678794
>>77679216
>>77679263
>>77679272
Mhmm, so good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OZY_Eno8GE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGTZfFzIMyo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ce7oWrYfk
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>>77679358
Kate coming through with the snipes.
More?
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>>77678425
Oh definitely.

I don't even know how a comic franchise as campy as F4 manages to have a lot of god-tier villains when the protags are all shit and boring in comparison.

The MCU is in desperate need of some decent antagonists besides Loki and Kingpin. That is when they don't casually kill them off like they tend to do in the movies anyway....
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>>77679342

I'm not even talking about the Big Wig 4 U, the direction is flat and they all take place in these tiny enclosed rooms where it's just shot/reverse shot conversations.

This was the cheapest fucking re-shoots I've ever seen. Other then the final fight they spent literally nothing on them, they could all be in the same abandoned warehouse for all I know.

>>77679399

>Interviewer asking what she thought of the movie
>she said she never bothered to see it

Based.
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>>77679354
Be honest. Did you want a Kronenberg horror movie Fantastic Four because you think it's a good idea, or because you hate Marvel Studios movies?
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>>77679385
I'm pretty sure it was a committee thing. One person shouldn't have been able to greenlight it, I feel like those jewbag cocksuckers were too busy counting thier shekels to give the thing a serious read over and just handwaved it in.

It's all speculation, but I think whoever greenlit it thought it'd be a neat tdkr type of flick but the execs panicked and figured it wouldn't sell.
It's like they think thier personal tastes and beliefs dictate the market. Maybe if they brought in a test audience they might've seen better results, and Trank wouldn't be so depressed.
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>>77679062
That would actually be a massive improvement to Reed's character in not just the movies but the comics as well.
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>>77679399
I'm trying to remember, it was a few months back.

Remember the rumors about Trank and his wife's dog wrecking a house that they were renting? Apparently they had a bunch of pills that the dog got into, and it later died at the vet. Trank is now trying to sue the vet.

And it wasn't even Trank or his wife that found the dog sick and brought it to the vet, it was some PA
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>>77679385
It was probably a disconnect between mid level guys and the upper level bean counters.

Trank was the right guy to hire. The Fantastic 4 name was in a terrible place even before the movie fucked it up.
Look at the Arrested Development plot mocking it six ways to Sunday.

They wanted to distance themselves from the campy cheesy past and have nothing new and interesting.
So they got a guy with an idea to make a more horror movie type interpretation.

But as things were going, the upper level guys were like "Horror movie crap? We want Avengers money! Make it more like the Avengers".

So now you have an executive order from someone who doesn't give a shit about anything other than money.

It was a good idea and it could have been good.
But, ironically, the MCU gave it an abortion.
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Fixing up a sequel with more comic booky F4 would have been easy if the movie had been any money whatsoever

I fully predict Jordan will jump ship to DC, the rest can buzz off
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>>77678862
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How do you fuck Doctor Doom up?

I mean...how?!
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>>77679454
I think it was an interesting take, and it might've been cool to pull off. Better than the shit we got. Then again if the early scripts were to be believed, which i think they weren't I forget, it might've been shit anyway.
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>>77678921
>The Things brother used to say "it's clobbering time" before every beating
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Behind-the-scenes documentary when?
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Josh, leave this thread. Your idea sucked, the execution sucked worse. Fantastic Four is about family, science, and adventure. Not grimdark angsty body horror. Good luck on that career.
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>>77679532
Changing anything about him
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>>77679422
>I don't even know how a comic franchise as campy as F4 manages to have a lot of god-tier villains when the protags are all shit and boring in comparison.
Because camp villains tend to be really operatic and over the top in their depictions and deliveries. It makes them real memorable.
Kirby loved that shit. Like Darkseid. A big stone faced guy in shorts that calls himself the tiger force? That's Charlie Sheen levels of crazy.
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>>77679028
Make another movie right before they lose rights
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>>77679454

>implying

I love the MCU and I want to see Trank's original cut.

I'm not saying it would have been good, but what we got isn't even a movie. If you're going to let your director take his weird auteurist interpretation of your franchise, actually let him do it. Instead we got a movie for literally no one.

>>77679547

I thought that was a joke when I first read that in a review, I couldn't fucking believe it when it actually happened in the movie.
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>>77679532
By tying him into the origin story.
I have no idea why they keep doing this.
Just make him Darth Vader. That's all you need to do.
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>>77679572
>Fantastic Four is about family, science, and adventure.
Face it, anon.
2015 was not the year for a fun Fantastic Four movie.

Remember that every movie is not set in stone.
A different interpretation wouldn't scar the IP forever.

The family fun will always be there, waiting.

But failure stains longer than changes
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>>77679619
This.

There's no excuse for Darth Vader still being the best on-screen Doom.
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>>77679422
>I don't even know how a comic franchise as campy as F4 manages to have a lot of god-tier villains when the protags are all shit and boring in comparison.
No they aint faggot
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>>77679532
Pretty easily. He's a complex character who's motives and backstory are very isolated from the hero's books he's spawned from so trying to tell both of their stories in the span of one movie will always end in awful shortcuts and imminent failure IMO.
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>>77679619

If you don't, you have to spend 15 minutes of your film setting up his origin story which is almost entirely disconnected from the rest of the narrative.

I get why fans are mad about why they do that, but it's just a cleaner story if everyone is there at the same time. They just haven't done it well yet.
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Trank should have taken more from Ultimate F4.
That was a legitimately good modern reboot.

Just film that.
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>>77679514
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>>77679619
>I have no idea why they keep doing this.
Because Warren Ellis was able to do it with moderate success.

Would it really be so bad if the Moleman was the villain for the first movie in a FF series? Dude has huge monsters, an earthquake machine, and a subterranean kingdom. That would be cool as hell.
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>>77679641
>But failure stains longer than changes
Such a failure that if marvel got the movie, announced they were making it, then made a product that was at least as entertaining as ant-man it'd be a fucking blockbuster movie.

It's like the perfect scheme to maximise money. Almost tlike they did this on purpose.
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>>77679681
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>>77679096
oh no family.

he was kicked off star wars for being an asshole basically. He lost star wars and then made this.
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>>77679674
Do you have to though? I mean, Doom could just be a seperate thing in the bacground, some sort of threat looming over the plot in some way, and then he's this bad sass they barely defeat. Then you get his origin sotyr in the second movie.
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>>77679674
Which is why I feel like Doom and the MCU kind of deserve each other more than any other IP, F4 in general is just really hard to do right without a giant universe to play with.
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>>77679692
>it'd be a fucking blockbuster movie.
No it wouldn't.

People would just laugh at it, and not in a good way.

Here's what normies know about the Fantastic 4
>There were some movies in the 00s
>They were pretty bad and silly
>Arrested Development made fun of it
>There was a horrible movie pretty recently

That's it.
That's all they literally know.
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>>77679710
No he lost star wars during the production of Fantfourstick
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>Fox and Sony are legally obligated to release Fantastic Four and Spider-Man sequels every few years
>Tron 3 gets cancelled
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>>77679202
Yes he was. Simon Kinberg was doing Rogues Ones and Rebels along with FF with Trank. Apparently it soured their relationship according to the wikileaks emails.
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>>77678425
>>77678675

What if FOX realize this and decide to use them as villains for the X-Men?
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>>77679724
If you don't care about the villain and don't understand what they want then the movie suffers.
'Be patient' doesn't work for writers that aren't George R R Martin
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>>77679737
>F4 in general is just really hard to do right without a giant universe to play with.
Well no shit. They're explorers that can't leave their immediate area because there's nothing there.
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>>77679681
>>77679697
>>77679736
Ha good memes lad

But the rights arent confirmed back yet so jjumping the gun
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>>77679739
Ant-Man

GotG
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>>77678285
Are you kidding? Three of Universal's highest grossing films ever were released this past year.

>inb4 hurrr they were shit

Doesn't matter. Its actually been thrown around quite a bit already that Universal was the winning studio of 2015
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>>77679739
Yeah they would, when you think marvle you think a grand adventure for the whole fucking family, they can turn shit into gold, and they can grease the right palms to make the movie seem bigger than it is.

People hear marvel got the rights back to the f4 they'd be adverse to it at first, but it'd be followed with "well at least Disney/marvel's got it!"

If civilwar is at least as decent as im2 or antman, and they pitch it right, the public will love it. they're like the jesus of cinema to the common folk right now.
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>>77679795
Honestly, this bums me.

For all its faults, Legacy was a fucking blast to see in theaters.

I would have loved to see a sequel.
No idea why they cancelled it.

Didn't it do ok with critically and financially?
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>>77679822
Just trying to relive the fun times we had on /co/ whe it got released
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>>77679806
Cant.

Crossovers between those two properties require Marvels permission due to different contracts for each property.

Its why there hasnt been an X-Men TV series until now (which also means FF is back in good hands)
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>>77679825
That's totally different.
Normies didn't know anything about those.

Knowing nothing and knowing only bad things are not the same.
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>>77679838
Yeah, but Disepney got Marvel and Star Wars and realized they didn't need to try any more.
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>>77679838

Disney wants to milk Marvel and Star Wars dry first.
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>>77679838
>No idea why they cancelled it.

Popular "wisdom" holds that Tomorrowland bombing at the box office cause Disney to abandon Tron 3, but in reality it was probably so they can concentrate more on exploiting their shiny new Marvel and Star Wars licenses.
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>>77679838
>Didn't it do ok with critically and financially?

It didn't make ENOUGH money for the people at Disney. Plus after they acquired the MCU and SW they basically canned their own initiative to develop their own action franchises (like Tron, John Carter, Prince of Persia, etc).
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>>77679917
>John Carter
It didn't require new licences to make Disney drop this one.

Didn't this failure cost like a CEO or some other big wig his job?
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>yfw FOX has secretly bent over for Marvel and Mads Mikkelsen is playing Doom learning the mystic arts in Doctor Strange
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>>77679984

One of the executives had to fall on his sword.

I didn't notice anyone getting fired for Lone Ranger or Tomorrowland though, so at this point Disney doesn't even have to pretend that financial blunders like these mess with their bottom line at all.
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>>77678212
Man, I liked Wolfman
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>>77678603
Its funny but the score is too high. Four implies below average whereas this was steaming shit.
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>>77678868
If this is real then I just feel bad for him. And its weird to see him with something actually Fantastic Four related after only associating him with Fant4stic which doesn't have a shade of blue anywhere in the whole movie.
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>>77679062
I haven't seen him in a role where he is enthusiastic like Reed so I dont know. Marvel's choice was good to me
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>>77679258
this is so fucking perfect with Scott
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>>77680644
I feel so bad for the actors, the actor for Doom even sopke out and was pretty understanding of fan outrage. Hopefully his career take off
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>>77680730

>Both Doom actors we've gotten were big fans and wanted to play Doom forever

>both got fucked
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>>77679062
...as the Maker
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>>77680706
It was great
>>77680748
They deserved better. What happened to the first one?
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>>77678425
You honestly think Marvel's going to do better with these villains, than what they've done with the likes of Ultron and Strucker?
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>>77680871
Julian McMahon
>http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0573037/?ref_=tt_cl_t5
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>>77679598
And see how much more money they can manage to lose this time around.
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>>77679724
>Then you get his origin sotyr in the second movie.

I say flip it the other way around. Set Doom up with his own movie just about him and his origins before you do the first Fantastic Four movie.

Then the movies can be about the Fantastic Four and Doom is established.
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>>77679422
It's not like they've treated Loki well on the movies.
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>Philip Glass is responsible for the soundtrack
I rewatched Candyman recently, and it's depressing to see how we went from something so good to Fan4stic soundtrack
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All I want in life is a fucking adaptation of Annihilation, is that so fucking hard to ask for?
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>>77681564

His score got replaced, but he's still credited for some reason.
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I haven't read a lot of FF, but I remember reading a bit of Byrne's run and I pretty much remember Doom's origin story was that he was just a fucking dick who hated Richards and that's it.

How do you screw that up?
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>>77679681
>>77679697
People may say whatever they want, Namor is so fucking pretty.
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I'm glad Moonbeam City made Kate Mara cute again.
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>>77678806
actually capcom admitted that outsourcing was a horrible idea. They did not say NT was bad but thats as close as your gonna get
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>>77677968
Didn't this same thing just happen with Jem and Mockingjay 2? Movies underperforming to a studios predictions means an automatic shitcan of the franchise rights?
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>>77678697
>>77679272
he was kicked off star wars because of this no way is he ok.

Thank goodness though I did not want chronicles 3 where michael b jordan and 4 other people become jedi then one becomes a sith
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>>77681976

Mockingjay 2 is the ending of the franchise though.

And it's still doing well, just not 11/10 amazing. People are going to see the "split ending of the trilogy" trend crashing hard soon, no one enjoys it.
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>>77679598
>>77680945
I don't see what they were thinking.
If Fox wants a good Fantastic Four movie, why don't they put actual effort in it? I mean, they gave Trank the FF to do whatever he wanted with it because they didn't want Marvel to get the rights. Then they act surprised when he makes something they weren't expecting with the license? Then they ask Matthew Vaughn and edit the movie into some Frankenstein monster of a dark sci-Fi body horror and a funny superhero movie and are shocked when they don't mix?
If they wanted a FF movie done like the MCU, then they should of put effort into it and put the right director for their vision.
They need to put some effort into the FF franchise
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>>77677968
>$167 million worldwide
For fuck's sake China stop seeing these abominations!
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>>77678603
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>>77682402
Not released in china. Its what indians are watching. They have got shit test. And also it was big on marketing there.
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>>77677968
From now on all fantastic 4 pictures must be named "Future netflix show!" That is the fate of all failed Fox marvel movies!
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>>77679062
why did I never think of this
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>>77682402
>>$167 million worldwide

You do realize that's really fucking low, right? Like Fox gets maybe gets half of that if they're lucky.
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>>77682273
When he was taking shots at Nolan/Snyder DC films I somehow completely forgot he was also producer on Fantastic Four.

You can just look at all that and suddenly realize the reason he said it was just to distance himself from Trank's direction.
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>>77682219
If you look at what happened in the last six years, they first announced a reboot in 2009 (when Marvel got bought out by Disney). So probably between 2009 and 2012, The Dark Knight success was something they wanted to attain. That probably would be why they agreed to Trank's direction and were considering Carnahan's 70's Daredevil.

But then the Avengers and GOTG were hits and Fox had people that wanted to go in that direction.
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>>77679858
Batman and Robin
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>>77679066
>I thought Trank was in "tell all, fuck those suits" mode on Twitter and what not.

Allegedly he came back and posted on /tv/. Allegedly.
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>>77679739
Iron Man wasn't exactly known or liked before the movies
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>>77682686
F4 would make a much better tv show than a movie. And not necessarily a Netflix show. I think more episodes and a weekly pace could be more beneficial
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>>77683906
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>>77683906
Sue looks like a young boy who's into Norwegian death metal
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>>77683966
>Mole Man pilot episode
>Namor subplot
>original Human Torch episode because why not
>entire season of building up Doom until finale
>entire second season building up Galactus through Silver Surfer
>more Namor subplot
>season 3 the return of Doom
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>>77683966
Add burping and casual swearing and you got rick and morty.
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>>77684035
Rick and Morty is popular. Take that and add superheroes in this day and age bada boom bada bing.
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>>77684080
Rick and morty is an adventure show, not an action show. The problem with fantastic four movies so far is that they are trying to put action when it really doesn't need it.

They just need the incredibles with a space portal that sends them on rick and morty adventures.

Heck, some of Rick and Morty's episode concepts are direct copies of Hickman's run on FF, and they are the most popular ones.
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>>77684123
Exactly.
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>>77679062
But who is Sue?
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>>77678806
but DmC is a good game
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>>77679984
I'm still shocked it tanked. John Carter was a decent movie.
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>>77684159
Elizabeth Banks is the only choice for Sue.
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>>77684170
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>77684179
40 year old milf who spends her time trying dresses and fashion whilst occasionally spitting out some unexpectedly smart/funny shit. That's Sue for sure.

Now you may not like her, but who really likes Sue, anyway? She's bloody perfect.
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It's already been said either GAMBIT or DEADPOOL & CABLE will replace it.
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>>77684204
Sue is a lot younger than Reed you know, and only a few years older than Johnny.
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>>77684204
Stop that
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>>77684217
>Sue is a lot younger than Reed you know

Nah, they retconned that out in the last few years, keep up
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>>77681920
>outsourcing was a horrible idea
was this before or after Inafune?
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>>77684250
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>>77684253
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>>77684257
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>>77684265
What an ugly Jew slut
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>>77684250
>>77684253
>>77684257
>>77684265
this could literally all fit in one gif if you didn't get it from a stupid fucking place like tumblr
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>>77684271
Not even
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>>77678624

god fuck. this is some catchy-as-fuck shit right there

I want to do shit like this while the same music is running

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EUUNTeJZdI
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>>77678541
>I'm not saying whatever Trank's original cut was would have been great, but it's at least a movie.

That depends though, we don't know for sure how much Trank filmed before they decided to "fire" him in October.


>>77679229
>>77679302
If you go by all the stuff that was being said on TigerDroppings and all that, the rumor was that Trank got fired back in October and reshoots were possibly done by Matthew Vaughn (which was a big rumor back in May till Trank denied it, but then someone on IMDB brought it up again near the release of the film, as seen here)

And then someone else claimed that Drew Goddard and some others got involved:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fantastic-four-blame-game-fox-814764

Trank was still there because if they fired him then they'd be forced to reshoot a larger number of scenes for a different director credit. So he might still have minimal advisement at most.
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I'd love Jessica Chastain as Sue, but I don't think she'd ever do it, nor do I think Marvel should shell out the cash to pay her.
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>>77680907
Oh like anybody gives two shits about Strucker.
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>>77684305
Or it could be crunched down into a single little webm, saving a lot of space and eliminating the GIF playback quirks on many browsers. Pentium 4 is long dead, it's time to move on.
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>>77679028
Silver Surfer movie. Just him and Galactus!
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>>77678901
>They'll see it anyway
Considering how poorly it did in the box office I think it's safe to say they didn't.
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>>77684457
Y'know what? Fuck it. Would watch. Should have stayed the course with that instead of the reboot.
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>>77678901

Arrogant shithead. I hope his career is over now.
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>Most of EW’s sources agree, with tiny variations, that this scene is what audiences were meant to see. But the reason it was only in the trailer, and not the finished film, is where opinions diverge.

>Those close to Fox say Trank was indecisive, and couldn’t figure out if he needed the scene, going back and forth before finally deciding it wasn’t necessary. They cite it as another example of a director out-of-control, unsure of what he wants or how to execute it.

>Others close to Trank say the filmmaker always wanted the sequence, but was forced to cut it when the studio pared back the budget at the start of production. They say Trank created a detailed previsualization of the scene – essentially, an animated version of what it should look like – that allows digital artists to begin creating effects.

>Late in production, when Fox executives realized they had a comic-book movie in dire need of action, sources sympathetic to Trank say they agreed to finance the scene – but Trank was not allowed to participate in the filming. As a result, the crew returned with footage shot in documentary hand-held style – which didn’t match the previsualization, or the planned digital effects, and also clashed with the visual style of the rest of the movie.

>At that point, according to sources close to Trank, the exasperated director chose to kill the scene entirely.
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>>77679697

>that Kristoff/Sony smirk.

Oh that is a thing of beauty.
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>>77684492
Nope.
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>>77679739
Fucking Daredevil had that shitshow by Affleck and they turned around his popularity
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>>77680108
>Doom
>one of the few good Marvel villains
>turned into a Disney operetta villain
NO RICHARDS NO
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>>77678806

But I liked DmC
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This and the whole ordeal with Amazing Spider-Man makes me happy as can be. To watch these studio made pieces of shit finally succumb to their arrogance. Wonderful.
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>>77684708
>arrogance
Yeah, how dare they do something with a franchise they bought!
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>>77684492
not with Creed coming out lol
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>>77678794
>yfw Disney paid him 4 billion to crash F4 into the ground to get the rights back
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>>77683906
>see the movie
They were straight up begging
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fox and dc will dominate 2016

We still don't even have a trailer for

Disney Marvels Robert Downey Jr. 7: UnCivil Quips-Cameo of spiderman(no one cares about)

Sorry mcu
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what? but I thought that movie did good, everybody likes comic books, no?
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>>77683966
>hurr durr serialized comic would be better in serialized format
Wow how insightful of you
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>>77680929
The MCU should pick him up for a villain some time.
Do they still have the rights to Doom's cousin who's a dentist?
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>>77677968
Christ, is it really hard to make a good Fantastic Four movie?
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>>77687198
No, Fox is just really really bad at many many things
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>>77678437

Iron Man 2 was a mess.

It was still leagues better than the F4ntastic movie. And it pains me to say that as a FF fan.
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>>77684418
>I'd love Jessica Chastain as Sue, but I don't think she'd ever do it, nor do I think Marvel should shell out the cash to pay her.
Fucking Hell No, Sue is a generic crappy as fuck character, Chastain deserves better, Mera!
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>>77679024

you don't announce the complete lack of faith in a movie *currently showing in theatres* by announcing the sequel has been canned.

they waited until its run was over then announced. not surprising. but they knew on opening weekend that a sequel was no longer in the cards.
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Who'd make a good Namor in a F4 movie?
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>>77678265
>Golden age of superhero films
>All four films are shit
>Marvel cancels comic in a tantrum over not having the rights

Goddamn it must be hard being a FF fan nowadays
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>>77677968
and shockingly, nobody was surprised nor cared.
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>>77687959
It's harder being a X-Men fan.

Hell, its hard being a Inhuman fan as well, seeing them getting turned into X-Men Lite just because of movie rights.
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>>77688023
Atleast the films are good and there are a lot of them, even if Marvel is killing the book
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>>77677968
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>>77679096
plus, I think it was given to Phil Lord and Christopher Miller, you know guys with actual talent.
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>>77677968
>>77678002

^This. Maybe it'd be easier to forgive.
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>>77679881
>Milking Star Wars dry.
That franchise has long transcended dryness, and entered a negative space of anti-hydration.
I'm telling you. After every star has gone blank, and Entropy has reached maximum. Once time and space lose all meaning. It will be a stray Phantom Menace that will bonk the Cosmic AC in the computation matrix, and cause it to yell out: "Let there be light!"
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>>77678624
>MARVEL WINS AGAIN
>IMAGE THIRD HIGHEST SELLING COMIC COMPANY IN THE US
>DC DOING ok i guess
>FOX GETTING FUCKED WITH THE F4
aw yeeee
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>>77678624
I see your victory tune, and I raise you a Benny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62ZSQUyU00s
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>>77679697
whats up with that sentence structure?
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>>77680907
Considering Whedon and the creative committee is gone? Yes.
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>>77685984
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>77684730
If they're not going to do something right, they deserve punishment.
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>>77678624
>>77688453
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>>77678401
>not liking F4

>>77678422
this is true, to be honest
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/r/ing that Watchmen edit with Ozy reacting to Fant4stic's initial reviews
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>>77683540
Batman had three hit movies and only one flop, and that still made a profit. Eight years of rehabilitation and they had a three billion trilogy on their hands. Normies only thought of him in terms of the '66 series being deliberately campy before the Burton movies, Warner Bros. won that battle with the general public in 1989 and turned him into a bona fide financial well. Send that bucket down as deep as it'll go, they'll still draw up money by slapping Batman on something.
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>>77684371
>IMDb member since October 2000
that's kinda sad
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>>77679258
Tom Defalco is truly a prophet
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>>77679795
why must you remind me
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I knew it was shit and still gone to the cinema watch it

I'm really not surprised by this news

I was afraid of a possible sequel before, but after all it was impossible for it happen for real

anyway I don't know what will be of the FF in movies and I don't think we will see it for a long time. I guess it is fadded to be forgotten until they have to do something about the rights (again)

I'm more concerned about the x-men
for some reason I think apocalipse will flop in some way and I really would like to see x-men beeing reboot without those excess wolverine movies it is nowadays
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>>77677968
Then why did i go see the first one. Fuuuiiick.
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>>77690131
...Yeah, why DID you?
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>>77679397
That picture is fucking cancer, but I'll watch these videos.
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>>77679454
I really liked the whole "coming back from Planet Zero" sequence up until the year jump. I felt so sorry for Ben.
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>>77679806
If they could have done that, they would've been able to hold on to the rights by incorporating Franklin Richards into Days of Future Past. But they didn't.
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>>77690408
Maybe he was hoping Tommy Wiseau would direct the sequel.
>>
Well sure Fantastic Four bombed again, but I'm sure the Wonder Woman film will do great.
>>
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>>77677968

where the fuck are the SJWs and sonyggers that said this movie will be good?
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>>77691521
Oh, but it was good for a laugh
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>>77691641
No, it wasn't even good enough for that, it was just a bore
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>>77691521
on suicide watch
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>>77678017
>Thank god. Im not really suprised exactly but I was worried the sequel would still happen

There was seriously 0 chance a sequel to this was gonna happen. A reboot maybe at least had a 1% chance of happening, but there sure as hell wasn't going to be a sequel to this.

-Low worldwide box office take (they didn't even have China box office since it wasn't released there) so it's a financial failure.
-The movie got heavily panned, more so than the previous FF films.
-Director went on Twitter and confirmed the movie was bad on opening week
-None of the cast seem like they really want anything to do with this film because it was such a disaster (Kate Mara said she still hadn't seen the movie yet, which probably meant that the cast showed up briefly for the red carpet thing and secretly bailed before the movie played), so I doubt they'd come back even if Bryan Singer was directing instead.

Even a reboot is less certain because in the eyes of the public Fox struck out three times.

The only reason a sequel was even being talked about was mainly for damage control (especially after Trank's tweet) and hoping to get more people to go see it.
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>>77688023
>It's harder being a X-Men fan.

fucking x-fags and their persecution complex
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>>77677968
What capeshit movie do you think will end the era /co/?
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>>77688023
Who suffers today? Off the top of my head,
>X-men fans
>Fantastic Four fans
>Spider-Man fans
who else?
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>>77693374
This. Trank tweeted about it on thursday night, literally less than a day from its opening. Word was spreading really fast about how shit it was and Fox would have been shooting themselves in the foot if they canceled the sequel while their movie was still in theaters, let alone its opening week. They really had no choice but to lie through their teeth about how they were totally confident enough to make a sequel.
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>>77693683
TMNT fans maybe?
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>>77693745
They have their tv show, while I'm stuck with Ultimate.
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>>77693374
>None of the cast seem like they really want anything to do with this film because it was such a disaster (Kate Mara said she still hadn't seen the movie yet, which probably meant that the cast showed up briefly for the red carpet thing and secretly bailed before the movie played)
I guess it would have taken a much cooler cast to get together at the premier and do a MST3K thing.
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>>77693905
Even if they wanted to, it'd be damaging to the film's box office take on opening week if they did an MST3K right at the premiere. Then the media would have a field day about how the stars admitted that the film was crap before it was officially released.
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>>77694350
Of course, the cast would be drunk as hell while doing this.
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>>77693683
Teen Titans fans, but that's nothing new
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>>77694731
But Teen Titans Go is actually good.
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>>77677968
>Oh no! Our retconned teenage super hero movie didnt resonate with fans. How could this happen?
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>>77695691
How are the Titans comics?
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>>77695853
Fucking awful.
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>>77695853
Terrible as always.
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>>77695951
>>77695969
yikes
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>>77677968
Fuck, so we don't get to see Galactus as a computer virus and an evil hacker who is a 'wizard' with a computer? I'm hurt.
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>>77696142
I'm angry and laughing, because it's fucking rediculous but very possible at the same time!
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>>77693374
>mfw I actually found the original two to be all right
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>>77693683
Hulk fans should be at the top of that list. We're never going to get a decent adaption that touches on the character's deeper aspects at this rate.
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>>77696282
>Hulk fans
Those still exist?
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>>77696282
yup because now everyone wants to bump the dumb chink Amadeus
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>>77697175
>Amadeus
>dumb
>chink
It's like you don't read comics
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>>77684371
>hat depends though, we don't know for sure how much Trank filmed before they decided to "fire" him in October.
Couldn't you figure that out just by looking at Sue's hair?
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>>77697386
He's been in comics since 2006 you tard
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>>77697416
Yea and he has been shit ever since. Bruce Banner all day everyday. Go back to tumblr and cry about steven universe fanfaction
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>>77697386

I don't think you read comics at all.
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>>77697444
>Yea and he has been shit ever since
Ever since when? You don't read comcis anon, it's okay
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>>77697453
you are right I only read Chloe Bennets ass
>>77697483
I don't give a shit about some scrub chink who can math fast/
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>>77697584
ok
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>>77696715
People like the Hulk, the problem is he hasn't been good in so long they have long since drifted off.
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>>77678624
Never played a Mario game in my life, Playstation for life never owned a Nintendo console, but this song made me actually laugh out loud. What a funky ass tune.
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>>77678675
>Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3: Anihilation
W-We can dream...
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>Human Coal literally never interacts with the Thing during the movie
>suddenly at the end he insults him out of nowhere
Fuck this shitty movie.
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>>77699492
>Human Coal
you can say nigger anon
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>>77684418
I need her as Moonstone.
Bitch can go fucking crazy onscreen.
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>>77678868
someone do one of those edits where its the words and hes sad. you know what i mean.
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>>77695691
I know, but it's not making the comics any better
>>77695853
Fucking complete and total TRASH
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>>77679544
Where are those scripts? never saw them.
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>>77681976
Jem did worse then underperform, it set records for how little money it made. As a Jem faggot, that was some horrible shit. But it didn't even Constantine, where if you didn't know the source material you'd think it was okay. If you never so much as saw the pink haired bitch before this movie, and you fucking loved tween pop shit, you'd still hate this movie.
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>>77684655
The directors cut helped. We won't get one here.
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>>77701592
>Jem did worse then underperform, it set records for how little money it made.

Then again it only cost $5 million to make, fantastic four cost $120 million to make.
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>>77684166
>>77684695
You should play the original series then.
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>>77688023
>It's harder being a X-Men fan
>8 books compared to zero
>your characters might disappear compared to the reed family just gone
x-fags are better off in the comics and movies than F4.

> its hard being a Inhuman fan as well, seeing them getting turned into X-Men Lite just because of movie rights
The comics aren't so bad but I can't imagine how the movie could work unless they ignore the tv shows. They can't be the mutant population first then try to pull moon inhumans second. They would kill the any mystique the royal family might have had.
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>>77701822
I'd love it if we could get a director's cut of Fant4stic but given Trank and Fox's fallout plus nobody knowing for sure if Trank completed it before studio interference it sounds unlikely.
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>>77693683
DC wise or Marvel? If you mean DC Legion, Teen Titans, maybe Hawkman

If you mean Marvel Hulk and Power Pack if those two even exist.
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>>77701822
Only casuals like the Daredevil movie and that's because of MCD who was a horrible casting choice anyway.
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>>77704088
No one on set liked how Trank was working anyway, still would suck.
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>>77704174
Then I'm proud to be a casual because I loved the movie. But then again I'm biased because I love all things Daredevil
Except Bullseye because he didn't get a costume
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