Remember when Finn was the main character of his own show?
The villains were solid. The whole thing was pretty alright.
>missed the ending point
T B H, the whole show never really changes and always stays the status quo.
Also the Rebeccca Sugar song was worth the whole miniseries.
I liked it. It kind of renewed the series when it seemed dead since season 4.
Remember when Adventure Time didn't have a plot
I blame stupid bitches for this because they wanted plot in a show that didn't need it. Why?
>I want a mushroom war to mutate everything on Earth and turn everyone into fantasy creature and talking candy
Or you could like...y'know...accept this how things always have been and don't need to make up bullshit.
I remember being so hype about Cartoon Network picking up the show just based on the Pen and Jake pilot and then they started the apocalyptic worldbuilding almost immediately.
It only became more complex. God, they had such a good idea and fucked it.
Finn is easily the worst part of the main cast at this point (the only way to surpass him would be reverting Ice King to Simon, honestly the entire Betty subplot was dumb and I hope they'll just forget it) so I couldn't care less that he gets less focus, especially since too much focus on Finn - or rather his "where is my gf" struggle - was one of the things that made seasons 5 and 6 so shitty as a whole after very enjoyable seasons 3 and 4.
Jake and Bubblegum are the most enjoyable to watch nowadays and I'm fine with that since they were my favorites to begin with.
>Season 1 was as bad as season 6
>muh stoner humor
If they'll keep it up with season 7 it can become second or third best easily though. As long as they won't make Finn emerge on another love quest, just let him have adventures with no need to seek a girl, and especially don't try to revive either old ship.
I'm not saying season 1 was bad as a whole, mind you - some episodes were great, like Enchiridion, His Hero or the dungeon one with the cat monster on the top of my head (but then season 6 had some ok ones too, like Evergreen or fun PepBut stuff). I just don't find it very remarkable and it's hilariously overrated.
Well, at least we won't have to worry about this piece of shit coming back.
Remember when he actually had development and him trying hard wasn't just a joke but part of his never give up personality?
Starts off alright and then slowly turns into nothing, then status quo is restored. we don't learn much and the message is "things sort of change but don't" which is just admitting that they really don't in an important way with this show
I agree with this list, just swap the < before 4 for a =
Nightosphere two-parter was easily the best one up to date. Where is Hunson nowadays anyway? Is his VA too busy? I've expected a cameo in Stakes.
Remember when threads for this weren't just repeatably about complaining about the same thing?
the vampire court are the best vilains since the Lich King but Finn jobbed so much that i couldnt appreciate them.
They also jobbed pretty hard though. It feels like the writers have no idea of scale. Many ofthem normal stories they try to do need a longer time but then they get a mini series and try to fit a much bigger story in that
>CIS white male
What is this? 2014?
It's back to simple adventures, but it's not like just doing that automatically makes it good.
They're not as good at making whimsical, irreverent stuff as they were back in the day.
Yeah, it was way better when they were just hinting at things. Giving the creator full control almost always ends horribly, and AT is a prime example, what with the meaningless, pointless, faux-artsy 'avant-garde' episodes of last(?) season.
She seemed to be powered by the moon but outside that I have no idea. She has super healing abilities but then at the end doesn't cause she is concentrated on stuff? She has some sort of ability that lets command things I think?
She barely had a personality to speak of
>but then at the end doesn't cause she is concentrated on stuff?
I think she's vulnerable to Marceline's soul sucking ability when she's staked; that's how I interpreted it anyway.
>>But not everyone was happy with the Legend of Korra's finale. There were a few at Cartoon Network who felt the event was less than magical.
>According to the intern, who wishes to remain Anonymous, Adventure Time Storyboarder Jesse Moynihan bashed his head against the wall while screaming "NO! NOOO! NO THEY FUCKING BEAT US NOOOOOOO! THOSE HACKS DID DYKE PANDERING BEFORE US NOOOOOOOOO! FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUUUUUUCK!"
>Sources also confirm that "Steven Universe" creator Rebecca Sugar locked herself in the bathroom and tried committing suicide, because "Now no one is going to think my fat ugly rock aliens are actually gay."
the cast was always limitless, but pre season 5 Finn was the locus -- all other characters were introduced through him (or Jake). now we can have episodes out of nowhere where the main character is someone else, and Finn maybe has a cameo, or doesn't appear at all. his status as main character is definitely fading.
They should turn Adventure Time with Finn and Jake into Adventure Time with Bonnie Bubblegum, make her lose her kingdom again and let her go on adventures.
>They don't care about them anymore
Doesn't explain the recent episodes being actually good
>and the show hasn't had "with Finn and Jake" in the title for years
Did they ever put it in the title? I've never seen the show on TV so I never paid any attention to it.
Yeah and like, one and a half of the recent episodes have been focused on those two.
They had that subtitle for the first eight or so episodes of season one's title cards then they dropped it for some reason. Not really sure why, they wouldn't start delving into other characters for years at that point.
>Yeah and like, one and a half of the recent episodes have been focused on those two.
After S6 I honestly found it necessary they clear up some things first, and give a decent reason for Stakes to happen. Varmints was pretty much a prequel. I'm pretty sure we'll get much more adventures with actual Finn and Jake in the future.
What does Penn Ward even think about all this shit? Didn't he give up any involvement with the show awhile ago?
If that's true, then that boggles my mind, the fact that someone would create something, leave, and then not care to the point where they'd let a bunch of jackasses do whatever the hell they want with it
No. He is apparently working on a theatrical movie according to what some people say here instead of working on the actual show. He still does voices when needed.
Pen's still fully concentrated about the movie. He wants it to be perfect, and it seems like it's fucking him up mentally. He hasn't been active at all on social networks lately.
Ward likely still oversees everything and helps come up with ideas, he's just less involved than he used to be and is apparently gearing up for the movie.
As for him not caring, I look at it this way: Ward came up with these characters and told the stories he had with them for a few years, but then he started to get burnt out. But he was always a fan of bringing in people with strong individual voices to help on the show, so he probably thinks if he ran out of stories he can let these other people give their take and go nuts.
Pen (and everyone else on the show) thinks they're doing good stuff still, just because people on /co/ think it's shit doesn't mean they all know it too and are living in denial.
If this was season 1 then Finn would have beat the shit out of half those vampires despite being 4 years younger.
Stakes was season 1 Finn if he was never actually a hero, just a kid really eager to be one.
>Stakes was season 1 Finn if he was never actually a hero, just a kid really eager to be one.
that about covers it. 16 yo Fin would be fucking amazed by his 12 yo self's heroic prowess. it's not like the 12 yo didn't have flaws. it was just, being amazing was at the core of that character.
What. Finn can do all the things he did when he was younger he's just fighting vampires now which are much stronger than him. He can't even get hits on them. Just like the time he couldn't do anything against Marceline but got one hit on her because she was playing with him.
Marcy wasn't playing along, the entire reason she spared him was that he actually hurt her and she was surprised by that.
12 year old Finn could do that, but 16 year old Finn doesn't hit any vampire at any point in Stakes, just make attempts that fail because apparently being clumsy is a main part of his character now.
If Finn could still do all the things S1 Finn could then that thing Marcy said about Finn stealing the kill on the dark cloud would have been actually feasible for him.
You can always argue the vampires were fuckstrong and Finn never would've been able to hurt them. That's more of a technicality though.
It's the tone that's the issue, the light the show wants to put him in. He's more of a bumbling comic relief than the top tier hero who's being outmatched by a villain who's just that incredible.
Yeah, he's weaker, a pussy starved fucktard, and basically the puppet and brainless footsolder of bubblegum and every princess in the show.
Dude doesn't even fight evil.
He practically is evil.
>Marcy wasn't playing along
She could have easily destroyed him if she wanted to. Did you even watch the episode? From the point when she appeared at their house she was just playing with them. Finn doesn't hit any vampire in Stakes because they're actually serious and not fucking around with him. And no Finn could have never beaten the dark cloud because it's just fucking gas. The only way to kill it was to suck it up.
It would make a good plot-hook for a D&D adventure. A pair of former adventurers turned servants to a corrupt queen have to be stopped before they can lead the queen's armies in conquest of the last free nations in the land.
Marcy wasn't at her full strength or else he would have died in one second but she still wasn't letting him get hits in, he earned that punch and that was why she was impressed.
Finn doesn't hit any vamp in Stakes because he was a clumsy buffoon and that's the only reason. He could have easily nailed the vampire king with that stake tree he had but he missed because I guess if he did something actually useful it wouldn't have been funny.
He also didn't actually do anything to stop the moon (but he could have) because he was the butt end of a joke once again with his getting the sword by the time she was already dead.
And are you really implying something like the cloud was unstoppable? If the writers wanted them to Finn and Jake would have came up with some crazy idea to take it out lickity split just like they always do whenever there's a world ending horror about, but all they had them do was sit underneath the thing.
It's not like Marcy turning into a fucking magical girl was the only logical way to defeat that monster.
>Marcy wasn't at her full strength
>he earned that punch and that was why she was impressed
There you go
>Finn doesn't hit any vamp in Stakes because he was a clumsy buffoon and that's the only reason
He would have hit The King many times if The King wasn't such a good fighter or had telekinesis. Sure the tree was a joke but there's no way he could have hit the king with it if he wasn't going to miss already.
>He could have stopped the moon
>If the writers wanted
If the writers wanted literally anything could happen. That's not an argument.
The tree thing had nothing to do with the King, it had to do with Finn, and he fucked up. This shows how he was being shitty because if they had him hit the baddies but have the baddies recover from that that shows both how strong the vampires are but also has Finn not be useless, but they went for Finn being useless.
With the moon he could have actually attacked her but not have it do anything, but aside from uselessly shanking her body a million times he didn't even get any hits in.
You're arguing the vampires were just too strong, but many instances of Finn fucking up had nothing to do with the vampires, just himself, so that's not an argument.
When there's a world like AT which can do whatever the fuck it wants even in terms of character consistency, then that kind of is an argument. The writers needed someone to bring the jokes so they made degraded Finn quite a lot to do that. The writers have demonstrated that if they want something they will invent up whatever they want to get it, but in this there wasn't even an explanation given, Finn was just shitty at everything and that was that.
>With the moon he could have actually attacked her but not have it do anything
He attacked her many times and then he was put under her slow spell and could only grab her leg.
>Many instances of Finn fucking up
Like one with the tree and that's pretty much it.
Finn shows more competence in these episodes than in the past. In these episodes Finn is showing a more mature attitude towards things. He's not flying off the handle like he used to, he's thinking about things, and he can sort of read people by just looking at their eyes which he does twice.
>Degraded Finn quite a lot
Finn hasn't degraded at all.
>Finn shows more competence in these episodes than in the past.
Not at all im afraid.
>He's not flying off the handle like he used to, he's thinking about things
Did you watch a different version of Stakes than everyone else? Finn was rather brainless and each episode. He wasn't thinking things through at all. Don't know what you are going on about.
>Finn hasn't degraded at all.
if you really believe that then there's no point in discussing this further Im afraid.
>He attacked her many times
You mean stabbed her limp, sleeping body many times. The leg thing was the closest action Finn did to an actual attack.
And there were a bunch of times where he fucked up throughout the miniseries.
>didn't get to Marcy on the windmill in time
>dropped the garlic bomb twice
>was effortlessly kidnapped by Ice King
>did nothing to the moon other than bring her to PB
>fucked up the stake tree
The only things he really did was provide bait for Heirophant and kick the King a bunch.
In the past Finn was a legitimate force to be reckoned with, in Stakes he does nothing but act similar to his past self only without all the power he once had. Other than him shielding the vamp King there was nothing in there of this bullshit maturity you're speaking of other than that eye thing you're trying to make into Finn being wise in some way.
>Finn hasn't degraded at all
Do you even remember the shit he used to be able to pull off?
>Finn hasn't degraded at all
Do you even remember the shit he used to be able to pull off?
I remember a time when Finn could effortlessly defeat giant monsters and killed groups of huge ghost gladiators single-handedly.
This has always been a problem with the show, as some episodes Finn could hurl a monster 80 times his size into a pit while in others he gets beaten by a squirrel, but Stakes was very egregious in that sense all the way through.
When AT makes a big deal about it's character development you would figure characters grow in stuff like this and not reverse themselves.
Oh yeah, I only watched Stakes once, than you.
>Not at all im afraid.
That's not a counterargument.
>He wasn't thinking things through at all
He didn't immediately assume it was Marceline who was attacking the animals when Jake immediately sprung to the idea. Then he tries to lure her to the kingdom because he thinks her healing power will help. Then he deduces that something is wrong because she's not catching up to him.
>didn't get to Marcy on the windmill in time
He was REALLY far away.
>dropped the garlic bomb twice
I guess you're right about that.
>was effortlessly kidnapped by Ice King
We don't really know how that went down. Maybe.
He literally couldn't do a thing to The Moon. Nobody could. Why are you saying he should have just kept trying to stab her a million times when it was proven not to work?
Clearly Pep Butt was able to do something when he staked her and Marcy was able to steal her soul.
The thing that partially defeated her was shanking her, so Finn should have given up shanking her?
It was more how he (and Jake too, but they didn't make a joke about Jake) wasn't able to do anything but they made a joke out of it. Having Finn be unable to kill em, yeah that's fair it is Marcy's miniseries after all, but having him not able to do anything shows that they kind of shat on his abilities.
>Thats not a counterargument
Compare his feats in older eps with how he acted in Stakes. You are hilariously wrong. He killed the Lich King and many other monsters by himself. He was just a clumsy bufoon in stakes.
>so Finn should have given up shanking her?
He was LITERALLY impaired under a MAGICAL SPELL. The Moon didn't do anything to Peppermint Buttler. It's not a passive thing apparently.
>Compare his feats in older eps with how he acted in Stakes
In older episodes he blindly flew at enemies and won that way. He doesn't do that anymore. He's not a kid anymore.
>He killed the Lich King and many other monsters by himself
Different situations. Finn was very invested in the fight with the Lich as everyone's lives was on the line. He didn't care as much with the vampires.
Psssh, Finn's heroically willpowered through shit a lot stronger than a half rate weirdo vampire's magic. But ultimately yeah I will concede that one to you. I think Pep was fine because he wasn't under moonlight.
The joke with him crawling over to the sword and getting there too late was just them rubbing in how crappy he was this thing, I felt.
They could have used those dudes Marceline killed in Everything Stays to do that. Not sure why they didn't, maybe it would have made an already rushed feeling series way too cluttered.
>Psssh, Finn's heroically willpowered through shit a lot stronger than a half rate weirdo vampire's magic
Please besides the Lich all those kiddos are just modern monsters, none of them are as hardcore as the old school bitches.
I think we can all agree that the show needs a mini-series of manly Finn in the Pillow Kingdom taking down evil pillow creatures. We could find out how he lost his arm, and he would already have an established love interest to protect. Pillow waifu = best waifu
>He didn't care as much with the vampires
That doesn't make any sense.
Explain how. They were all evil creatures that posed a threat to the safety of Ooo. How is that any different than what the court of vampires planned to do? You just seem to be making up excuses for some reason to shut down any complaints about Finn character regression.
What does him not being a kid any more have to do with it??? There were many instances where he didnt just "blindly fly into enemies" and win. The Gladiator episode was proof that he could outsmart his enemies by being clever, not just strong. He wasn't any of that in Stakes you dumb cunt.
>Finn was very invested in the fight with the Lich as everyone's lives was on the line. He didn't care as much with the vampires.
Okay, and made you think he didn't care? He tried stopping them didn't he? Yes he did.
End of discussion.
>inb4 more excuses
>When AT makes a big deal about it's character development you would figure characters grow in stuff like this and not reverse themselves.
it's their ass backwards logic. depowering him is a good cause he's less cartoony and exaggerated. he stands around more than he fights, therefore he must be more contemplative and mature.
can't really explain the clumsiness in Stakes though. except jobbing for the sake of the girls.
It's not good. It's highschool philosophy mixed with faux-intellectualism put through the filter of Adventure Time's formerly charming childlike diction. It's that kid sitting in the back row of AP English trying to act smarter than everyone else. It's a tale told by an idiot; full of sound and fury but signifying nothing.
>The artsy fartsy crap is good. I don't know why it bothers you so much.
Most of that shit in Adventure Time was pretty fucking pretentious.
Dumbies pretending to write smart stuff is never entertaining.
>TFW I stopped watching this after season 3-4 when Fire Princess became a thing
>TFW I hear what the shows become.
I glad I dodged that bullet. Finn was easily my favorite part of the show. Sucks they fucked him up.
Jesse Moynihan about the rumor of Finn being a Cosmic God at the end of season 6.
>I've noticed a recurring misunderstanding of Finn-as-cosmic-god variation. I guess I blame myself for not being clearer, at the same time the focus of my writing in S6 was to NOT be clear all the time. If it helps at all, as a personal footnote- Finn is not a cosmic god or whatever. He's just a normal human. His soul was delivered to Earth by a comet but It should be understood that Earth is as cosmic as the comet. We all derive from the same source material. The theme of reincarnation is used to illustrate how connected we are through time, not just Finn. Finn is special because we're all special. Even butterflies and piles of pink glowing turds.
>I've noticed a recurring misunderstanding of Finn-as-cosmic-god variation. I guess I blame myself for not being clearer, at the same time the focus of my writing in S6 was to NOT be clear all the time.
No wonder Adventure Time went to shit
Not him but I think it makes sense in that the vampires were Marceline's bag, not his, while with the Lich it was pretty much up to just him, and he was spurred on by heroic stuff like Billy's legacy and gauntlet and PB's sweater.
>We all derive from the same source material. The theme of reincarnation is used to illustrate how connected we are through time
fucking thank you
I've been telling you fucks it's a symbolic thing, not a DBZ thing.
doesn't make it worth wasting a whole damn arc on though.
Constriction maybe. Got it trapped under a pillow mountain and lost it to infection.
But I feel like they must have sharp things somewhere, and the metals available to make them. How do they repair anything? Gotta have sewing needles. Scissors. Seam rippers.
>Before Rebecca Sugar
>Her episodes writing Finn were usually the ones where Finn was at his best
You have no idea what your talking about, do you?
I've never had a problem with the artstyle, personally. It's natural and nice as long as it's expressive a la season 1.
Depends on the tone. As we've seen with the real Adventure Time, the artstyle is less appropriate when everything is super cereal.
What I would wonder is how much of Finn's personality would be retained in a completely serious interpretation of him battling things.
Finn is silly and awkward and has many vulnerabilities. He's cute and funny. A lot of people seem to want to turn into a hypermacho anime character, which would make the work less an homage to Adventure Time and more an anime with characters cosplaying AT.
Although on the other extreme is the series itself, which goes out of its way to humiliate him and undercut his glory at every turn just to keep him flawed. That's bad too...
anyway, if you're actually going to animate something, that is always great.
Always can do attitude, with a love for friends and family. Sort of like the Lich battle when he used a sweatshirt to rip the Lichs skull into pieces. I think it'd be cool if there were battles much more well animated and fluid, in an adventure time scene.
Maybe he is overdue for a montage of glory. Poor kid deserves it. His balls got stomped into a fine red mist.
I've always wanted AT to have fight choreography sometimes. Can't believe they threw away the chance for him to learn more nuanced swordfighting (instead of
"hack at it until it dies") as a symbol of growing up.
He really needed to spell this out? Of course Finn wasn't an actual god, just a reincarnation of one, that doesn't mean anything for himself.
I mean, it was shittily done but that was very clearly established in The Comet. People are really dumb.
>Jmoyns confirmed Finn isn't a cosmic being or a god
If Finn is as normal as everyone else why was he the one that the comet gave to reset the universe or whatever and no one else? Seems like that reincarnation thing was made to have him be special even if Jesse's denying it.
>why was he the one that the comet gave to reset the universe or whatever and no one else?
Because he was there.
Marten was also there so that's why he was able to take up the offer on a whim and the comet was like "Sure".
He shine a few time, though. And I say Stake was a series focused on Marceline, so it make sense that he'd take second seat, for that. he hasn't acted out of character either.
and I say, as much as people think he was depicted as an idiot, he still ended up being the voice of reason. He is the one who called out Marceline for her BS when she tried to kill a surrendering Vampire King, remaining true to his Hero nature.
If they needed Marcy to be the mighty magical girl so badly, it would've been ok to just forget Finn exists for a bit. Have him be away on a mission, or something. That's at least better than jobbing him, but the writers insist he tag along with the supapowerful bitches all the time because he's the "main character".
>He is the one who called out Marceline for her BS when she tried to kill a surrendering Vampire King, remaining true to his Hero nature.
that's true, that was nice.
But historically he's not been lacking in agility or power or even intellect, either. It wasn't just "oh he sucks hard in every way, but he's got such a great heart!" Nope.
Finn and Jake should have been secondary characters in Stakes (they practically were anyway) who weren't present the whole time but showed up some episodes to help, like Peppermint Butler or Ice King. They were there the whole time because the writers felt they had to include them, but as a result they couldn't actually do anything.
Having Finn and Jake only pop up occasionally would allow them to actually be useful when they do show up, hell they could gotten one of the vamp kills that way.
And I was confused why Finn said he was saving the King because of what the Enchiridion said when he never cared about it beyond macking on honeys in the past. That part seemed a little forced.
indeedy they do. the show didn't get that pretentious from nobody caring. jmoyns in particular cares too much. he wants the show to be his everything, express all the greatest truths of his life, of all life. it's noble to try to be more than a typical shallow cartoon but yeesh.
They mostly seem to be trying their damnedest (aside from outliers like Xayaphone who are likely just doing it for the meager paycheck), the thing is that with all of them trying their different things barely anything meshes together so even if they do good on their single part the rest of the show fucks it up anyway.
Well, nobody fucked up the comet arc. It ended in a planned destruction of potential -- what was there to fuck up? jmoyns knows the status quo can't be avoided so he cuts to the chase and does it himself, patting himself on the back as he does it.
In other news, Patridge is a confirmed supporter of hawt vampire yaois
Anybody else kinda like the episodes where we see Finn and Jake from an outside perspective? I kinda like them being lovably dumb and incompetent - the 'stake her back/take her back' thing in Stakes was great.
>I kinda like them being lovably dumb and incompetent
But banana guards are the most annoying characters in the show.
thanks for bumping desu senpai
Most of their adventures start with them doing some inane thing and/or dicking around and ending up doing something completely different by blundering into some other situation and fumbling their way through it. they are only really competent sometimes, and always because of natural ability and experience, but they aren't good at planning, following directions, or really having any goals to speak of outside of 'find an adventure somewhere'. if they're given instructions, they cock it up somehow. if they aren't given instructions, they find something to cock up and then potentially fix maybe.
this has been the plot of their part of the show since the pilot.
Seriously, I fucking love how much of a great character can those guys make if they actually try
I only hope that asshole of mutto shouldn't just kill her and the rest of them off just like that and went back to literally the same like if nothing changed
Fuck this shit, those guys actually have a fuck ton of potential and talent to make this show great but they make the worst fucking choices ever
one-off characters are really all they can do. don't wish the evil that is "development" on good one-offs. this is how AT is supposed to be, it's just painful because its so far down the rabbit hole of plot and other longterm commitments the writers cannot handle.
remember the time Finn took down the Ruler of the Night-o-sphere by himself?
Because I do, and that other poster must not
sure it happened in season 2, but season 2 and season 1 are pretty much indistinguishable
that's the problem with the AT staff that everyone has with them. They can literally make AT like, the best show on TV if they actually made the right choices, but they just keep doing dumb shit that infuriates people.
She's really got nothing to apologize for. Finn's gone from an infatuated child to an aimless, somewhat competent manchild, neither of which are interesting relationship material for a milennia-old sentient mutant wad of gum like PB.
Also, a lot of the situations that Finn blunders into and involves himself in are potentially catastrophic, and require intercession from someone who has literally been trying to Sim City an entire civilization for thousands of years and is used to interceding like you do in Populous or whatever, with a heavy hand and no compromise or discussion.
what constitutes 'the best show' is very subjective, however. some people want plot and narrative, others want villain-a-day light-hearted adventure, others want wierdness and worldbuilding. you can't satisfy all of them at once, you end up a mess (which, one could argue, is why adventure time is in it's present state.)
it should be noted that with one-off characters, there is a lot more freedom in characterization and the plot of the episode, because they only show up once. this lets the writers be a bit more brazen and out-there with the episode's content, and potentially set up other things later. this also gives you the freedom to bring characters back later (if they don't get killed), which AT does often -several characters that were intended to be one-offs have been worked into other episodes as persistent characters, with or without speaking parts.
anyway, there are clearly a lot of cooks in the kitchen writing for, storyboarding, and otherwise involved in AT, and they all have different ideas of the kind of show it is and the kind of show they want it to be, and that makes things a bit of a mess, and offers no consensus as to what the 'best' version of the show is or could be.
personally, i'm content to sit back and see what they make, rather than investing myself heavily into some kind of headcanon or constructed expectation of what i think the show should be, because all of that just sets you up for getting mad and being disappointed. nothing that you aren't writing yourself is going to turn out the way you really want it to, so it's not worth getting all frustrated about.
Now that it's canon she's been playing Sim City the whole time and doesn't really need rescuing like before, she's a bitch for allowing him to continue to help her -- or "help", since like you say he causes trouble for her now. Which she chooses to quietly work around, prolonging his obsession, confusion, and misery. She's highly complicit in his stunted development and manchildness.
I'm just pissed off she can't act for real with him like she does with Marceline. I mean you saw Varmints? She didn't talk to Marcy like a child or a servant. I mean unlike Finn, PB treats her like an equal and actually apologizes to her. Not only that, but I thought Finn was PB's best friend? Now its Marceline?
>some people want plot and narrative, others want villain-a-day light-hearted adventure, others want wierdness and worldbuilding. you can't satisfy all of them at once
I'm pretty sure you can juggle all that. It's called plot-driven anime with monster-of-the week filler. If AT was an anime it'd be like 80% filler though, so obviously the plot isn't going to function.
They've potentially had centuries of relationship development between the two of them, I think it makes sense that she is much more upfront and intimate with Marcy than Finn.
And Finn always wants to try to get into PB's pants, so that's not really treating her like an equal. More like licking her boot and begging to get stepped on. That kind of fits with the way she looks at him as gross, dumb and kiddie, cause that's kind of how he acts around her.
And Finn has never been PB's best friend, I thin that position would belong to Lady if anybody. Marcy is something more than that and Finn used to be her heroic pseudo love interest she flirted with until they reached the awkward stage they're at now.
Do you guys remember how FUCKING HARD I Remember You hit when it came out? I remember /co/ being flooded with threads. The episode made it to the front page of
They nailed the tragedy behind Simon's character, and the reveal at the end that he was the one who gave Marceline her doll was great...
But now... They're trying so hard to rekindle that magic, with Marceline's mom and other shit... It doesn't work. Sugar gets what tragedy is. She doesn't intersperse it with WACKY COMEDY. She lets the implications linger and get uncomfortable... And it's even more annoying that they don't let it linger with Finn either. When he lost his arm, they had wonderful potential to do something with that. Instead, it just went back to the status quo as usual. Oh, and he got his arm back! Oh, and Prismo is alive! Oh, and Root Beer Guy too!
If these people really wanted to make something tragic, they'd let dead characters stay dead. I guarantee those vampire minions are going to come back some fucking how.
Simon gets limper as a tragic character every time they go back to him, and they even had a continuation of the tapes from HJS in Everything Stays where it turned out he wasn't being genuine at all and was laughing as soon as he finished. That kind of went full circle and now Simon's been squeezed dry til a husk remained. If they had stopped it at Simon and Marcy it would have ended with the largest amount of dignity.
Just because the whole Internet was going "COOOOR" when IRY aired doesn't mean it was amazing though, it was a pretty awkward episode like AT always was when Sugar suddenly did her eps and the tone entirely changed. That is better than ruining the mood with lame jokes but still doesn't gel with the rest of the show.
And the in show song was shit, they butchered Sugar's demo.
>but I thought Finn was PB's best friend
They were mid-tier friends once upon a time. But in light of the new evidence -- how much softer and nice her real self apparently is -- it makes more sense to interpret her relationship with Finn as primarily business all along (i.e. manipulation). Sad.
Once upon a time PB wasn't so cold towards Finn and actually acted in a way where she cared about him. She made him a sweater and would even hug him. Now fast forward a couple seasons and she suddenly freaks out about him touching her or whatever.
>"Finn come on don't be weird"
My point is, as the show goes on, their relationship will either be nonexitant or really one sided and fucked up. Finn is obviously still pining after her but she isnt gonna give him the time of day. Which really sucks because the writers keep pushing it. Everyone knows that PBxFinn is going to be end game but if shit like this keeps up I would vastly prefer they never get together at all. Its just going to seem like a pity pairing the writers feel obligated to do and its not going to be genuine at all. Its the ship what Pen Ward intended since the beginning but now it seem Bubbline is more canon than Fubblegum will ever be.
>More like licking her boot and begging to get stepped on.
Then she should fucking say something. Lay down the law about what their relationship is and what she expects. She doesn't because she doesn't care about his well being enough to give up his labor. If she stopped being a stone cold cunt and treated him like an adult first, he'd have a better chance to finally become one and be worthy of her respect again.
I seriously wonder if Canyon is a real possibility. Every episode they've been in together, (which is like two right?), there seemed to be mutual attraction between them.
Especially in the first.
>It's a tale told by an idiot; full of sound and fury but signifying nothing.
Considering how she treats Finn now, I don't blame them. She treats Marceline like an equal and shows affection towards her. She just treats Finn like tool that can be disposed of. And he gladly just rolls with it.
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It mostly comes from flanderization of her character into a heartless robot (except when she's lezzin'). But it makes sense enough to me that she started to see the danger of his blossoming manhood and got creeped out. She sure doesn't mind though, since he'll lick her shoes forever now.
Its too toxic for both of them. Its like reaching NaruSaku toxic. Finn sadly is the Naruto. I think as friends they could be fine, but as a couple no. It'd be incompatible and way too one sided.
Who really can blame them especially how she acted when Marceline was poison. She was completely letting her emotions out. The scene with her and Pep in the 'lab' with her hair messed up and a panic stricken face. Its just, wow PB really does have emotions.
Absolutely, but I think Finn wasn't aware that PB was literally willing to kill FP along with Finn. Jake was the only one to hear her suggest sacrificing him like that and he probably didnt even mention it to him afterwards...
She was testing out what it would be like to be in love with Finn for a change.
After the episode was over she had to make herself throw up, took a scalding hot shower to clean all the Finn stench off of her, then hit up Marcy for some hardcore scissoring to clear her head.
I think she just wanted to be friends with him again. Also it is true that PB wants to chill more lately. So I'll give it that, but nothing more. Like I said before they are better off as friends.
Now that she's queen of do-gooding, she'd treat him like an inferior same as PB does, except from a moral perspective. Their potential is kill.
Has has no choice but to find someone completely new. But he's too busy being a remora.
Because the writers didn't know what to do with their relationship, so instead of making their romance more interesting and heartwarming/cute, they decide "FUCK IT, LETS MAKE EM BRAKE UP, AND MAKE FINN DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER, WHATS THE WORST THAT CAN HAPPEN!"
I swear, the more i watch this show, the more i think selfcest would be the best choice.
Even Fionna would be above him man, she was designed to be the more mature version of Finn who got her life and romance problems sorted out. Remember her speech at the end of her first episode?
Finn will just be >tfw no gf and lonely forever, as is his place in life.
Basically, he got super wet the idea of FP duking it out with IK, so he manipulates a fight between the two, FP finds out, and basically shes like fuck that shit, and breaks up with Finn
But thats it mang, shes so mad that her male younger self is such a beta, she'll basically retrain him to be a hero, eventually get impressed by how kick ass he is when hes not acting like a total fag, and fall in love with him and live happily ever after. and then the porn.... ohhhh don't get me started on the porn.
Never it is, anon. This is just their treat for staying dormant for so long.
Ordering stuff online sure would be different.
Same thing went on when Pajama War ended. Bubbline fags on suicide watch.
Now that Stakes has aired the pendulum appears to be swinging the other way.
Only a matter of time before the next Finn and PB episode airs.
I just went on an AT nostalgia binge and damn this show makes me emotional. Dad's Dungeon's ending seems to be so underrated everywhere other than on /co/, them subtle feels with Finn and Jake reminiscing about their dead pappy. Those two guys are the best.
I'm gad this show still has life left in it even after all the shit's happened, those times where Finn and Jake show that same spark they had in the past make all the bullshit worth it. I'm gonna be a wreck when this thing ends.
I don't wanna get my hopes too sky high because of fear of disappointment, but I'm very cautiously optimistic.
Sad that it seems like it won't be the end of the series though, that would be the best way to end it on a bang and shows that continue after their movies always seem to take a dip in quality.
But I got faith in Pen and I got faith in Finn and Jake so I'll be seeing it through.
Stakes was great
except for finn
some other anon put it best, hes been delegated to fucking bananna guard duty
hes a clumsy, incompetent idiot played for laughs around the actual characters.
My problem with Adventure Time is that it's all over the place. It started off as fun meaningless adventures with Finn and Jake, and sometimes their friends would show up. But now you get these episodes just focusing on their friends, and there's gotta be this big deep story to everything. And "it's 2015" so of course you've gotta have your mandatory LGBT pandering characters.
Compare it to something like Gravity Falls. Gravity Falls started off with a set story in mind, and throughout the course of that show things have slowly been revealed to us. Stuff that was planned from the very beginning.
Meanwhile Adventure Time just seems to be making stuff up as it goes along, expecially at this point. I could buy that the Mushroom war/post apocalyptic stuff was planned from the start but that's about it. Plus Gravity Falls doesn't feel the need to cram in some unnecessary LGBT character/plot point. Like so many other cartoons feel the need to do these days. FAGGOT CHARACTERS DON'T IMMEDIATELY MAKE YOUR CARTOON GOOD DAMMIT.
I do like adventure time, but I don't like how it's trying to be one big epic story like Gravity Falls or any other cartoons these days, without actually planning any of the story.
>Finn and Jake have a big argument and things are really weird between them
I don't know, that sounds really shitty but I think Finn and Jake drifting apart from each other fro some reason or other would be very interesting. I love their loving relationship but the show's kind of milked it dry after 5 years, so they gotta mix it up a bit and I think that could be such a great way to do it.
No idea what it would be about or how long it would last and this shit, that's just something I would like to see at some point in the show.
AT is the number one reason why I believe that series need a strong backbone of pre-planned writing with strict guidelines on what the writers can do.
otherwise the inmates take over the asylum and the story goes full retard.
That only applies if you decide to go for plot and consistency or whatever.
Stuff like early adventure time or shit like, I don't know, aqua teen hunger force or some shit don't need to care about that at all.
>AT will never stop riding the Status Quo's dick
>Flame Princess uses Finn as an intermediary to get back at Princess Bubblegum
>Bubblegum interprets this as Finn threatening her at long last, for which she had an elaborate contingency plan
>some sticky shit
>Finn befriends pirates and gets +10 corruption
>plot and consistency
Damn, but those are things that make show great.
You can have a whacky series about seemingly random shit, but u still want to see paterns, to have, howerever weird, some rules, that are ought to be not broken by trivial means. That's where the pleasure comes – you watch and u start to predict stuff and them BAM – there's actually a twist and you begin to notice more things etc etc.
Well, that's at least my opinion about writing shows. I know /co/ hates Steven Universe, but at least writers took their time to make a backbone.
The perfect time for that would've been when Jake was raising kids and feeling a lot of pressure. Or when Finn was spending too much time with his girlfriend... Oh well, there are other options. Something that reflects how Finn is trying to be his own person. I dunno, maybe he and Jake have a tradition passed down from their father and Finn's suddenly decided he hates it.
Yep, the most opportune moment for it has long passed but I'm still hoping it might happen. Just based on all the ideas they've used they have to get there sometimes, right?
I thought something that might be decent to get that started is somehow Finn and Jake get to the topic of their dad and Jake says something like "Man in retrospect dad was kind of a jerk, heh" and Finn's like "What are you talking about" and they kind of get into it, with Jake saying that Joshua was an asshole to Finn and sort of treated him like crap but Finn shooting back that he's able to be such a great hero because of that treatment, while Jake says Finn i great in spite of Joshua, not because of him. Something like that.
That's nothing more than my gay ass fanfic and it may not even be in character, but still, you know? I enjoy coming up with little plausible scenarios like this for AT characters. I like this show a lot.
It will never happen because it's too scary to threaten the core dynamic.
>wahhh but that takes away the fun of Finn and Jake!
they cry as they write tragic backstories for Goblins #3-6.
>Joshua was an asshole to Finn and sort of treated him like crap but Finn shooting back that he's able to be such a great hero because of that treatment
Anything for Finn and Jake childhood backstory, honestly.
Plus this could segue into "wait maybe I don't want to follow in dad's footsteps anyway? did he just brainwash me? etc." Nasty subject but if Finn's gonna be sad and stuff we should look at the core of why he's sad -- aimlessness. More existential crisis for Finn. MOAR. Maybe if the crisis is bad enough he's finally change.
I really wonder how that shifted.
I guess Pen was wanting to make sure this show didn't just split apart in a million directions before it got off the ground, but later he got a staff of people he had faith in and the show was in a comfortable position so he let them get more room to grow and they went wild.
I'm torn here because I both want to see it happen but don't want it to only get one quarter assed episode that begins and ends on the same not and that's the best I'll get. That was kind of how I felt with Joshua and Margaret Investigations. Goddammit being a fan of this show is suffering.
It would be really nice to go into some Finn angst that has sort of been firmly established for a long time instead of the new bullshit they like to slap onto the lad. Finn's had mixed up feelings about Joshua before so getting into that more could be nice; maybe work Martin into that too? Or something?
I think it would be neat if Jake kind of regarded Joshua as being kind of an old prick because Jake's matured and wise enough to look back on what he was doing and see what it was, while Finn thinks that everything was necessary even if he suffered a lot for it. Easily the chance that Joshua was right, but maybe Finn's just desperately wanting to believe his adopted father could do no wrong because he's all he has left after his real father was a wet piece of shit.
Man AT, you're doing all this aimless emo shit and backstory and not going for the treasure trove of shit that is Finn and Jake's dog family? What the fuck is the matter with you? Actually, you know what keep it this way, you'll just ruin it. Let that period stay pure.
Get a new miniseries going focused on Finn and Jake Investigations. They aren't working for royalty anymore so they open up their own biz and through that we get flashbacks to stuff with Joshua and Margaret?
Maybe not a miniseries but something longer than an 11 minute episode.
>Joshua and Margaret Investigations
>Jake is half ayylmao
A+ backstory so unexpected. You're right, I hope they never touch Finn's little kid years and how Joshua trained him.
But you should write your gay ass fanfic. It's true it's a rich vein and they're ignoring the convenient ways it could tie into Finn's angst problems and help FIX THE PROTAGONIST.
>maybe work Martin into that too?
that's what I'd figure. Abandonment issues stirring up repressed feelings of resentment because Finn's training as a little boy was kinda rough. I mean realistically his dad probably never felt as connected to him compared to the biological children, so maybe he overcompensated, trying to make sure the kid didn't turn out to be more human scum. Finn tries to forget these things because he really loves his dad.
The only thing I can think of is that they either don't care about that period as much or think the audience doesn't care about that part of it.
The Simon and Marcy and PB's backstory and all that shit get all the fans hype and going but nobody really goes nuts over Finn and Jake growing up. It's not like there was a crazy uproar when Joshua and Margaret Investigations aired.
Maybe they're right in that.
>the audience doesn't care about that part
Must be less exciting on the surface because the scale is small. PB and Marcy and Ice King have been alive for 1000 years but Finn and Jake only a handful. There's a mystique to being alive a long time and seeing so much crazy shit. Isn't that why the show likes to show us the distant past and the distant future too? They just can't get enough of this epic scaled shit.
But inner conflict is as exciting as immortal beings with vast empires. Everyone has a universe inside their head, awooo
You mean Season 5? It's in season 5 Finn and FP broke up and Cinnamon Bun ended up being the knight of FP.
Season 6 had none of that bullshit and was overall great. No a single bad episode in it.
But Finn didn't really suck. Heck, he even help Marcline free herself from her ice shackle. And he has been shown jobbing like that previously.
It might have been one of his bad days, but he hasn't showed anything that he hadn't before.
Who Would Win was mostly an excuse to get them to have a gritty fight episode, there wasn't much legitimate arguing going on there.
It was "Jake don't be lazy" "Fuck you Finn" BIP BAP BAM
They thought about Ghost Lady being one of Finn's past reincarnations only later on, right?
After watching King Worm it felt like there was something related to Finn's babyhood and the character.
Then *poof*, Jmoyns took the strongest foot in the writing phase on the following seasons and it all went to scratch and rewriting.
>Everyone knows that PBxFinn is going to be end game
Only delusional shippers on /co/ still think that
There's absolutely no reason to think that will happen aside from "hurr fairy tale". And AT has long gone beyond the simple fairy tale themes
>Once upon a time PB wasn't so cold towards Finn and actually acted in a way where she cared about him.
Remember the time when PB wouldn't go see a movie with Finn because she had a whistling competition?
Remember the time PB went into space to save Finn after his obsession consumed him?
Sigh, I wish they would show Finn growing up physically. The dude is like 17 and he is about the same size as he was back when he was 12. Too bad there aren't any sane humans around to help Finn.
I really want him to grow and become his own man instead of working for 1 shitty little kingdom, that isn't even a kingdom since a the ruler is called a princess and not king/queen.
>Sigh, I wish they would show Finn growing up physically. The dude is like 17 and he is about the same size as he was back when he was 12.
Except he has grown, you just didn't notice. he used to be a head below Princess Bubblegum, now he is almost on the same size. We even see him having facial hairs.
Here are the pic from Too young (season 3), James (season 5) and Bonny and Neddy (season 7).
It's worth noting that, like Steven universe, the size aren't always consistent.
His height is always changing man. Look at his height in stakes with both girls. The freaking artists keep shifting it.
Avatar did a better job showing Aang's height difference than this show. They made it gradual.
I won't lie. This scene confused the fuck out of me. When is this in the timeline even? I mean it's obviously before simon but is it before the war? Why does her mother tell her it's not time to play?
>Look at his height in stakes with both girls
His size isn't actually that different from the Bonnie and neddy episode, though.
And its gradual here too, though. It just that his size vary though a fork that keep getting higher.
Marceline is 1000 years old. Meaning she was born just as the mushroom war erupted.
So, here it's 4 years after the Mushroom war, likely.
Her mother might have benefited from some special treatments and protection from giving "special treatments" in return to Marceline's dad.
>they're selling fucking AT vinyls now
Why do people keep thinking the Mushroom War lasted for a year? It's a nuclear war, it probably went for several years the shown picture is likely to be set during the war, even if four years passed.
>Girls stop getting height around the time they are 15.
Wut? That was the case until 50 years ago m8. The trend is definitely going towards 17-18 nowadays. Men even grow until the age of 25, even though the gain at most a centimetre after hitting 20.
Well, you said she was born as the war erupted, and then you noticed how this is four years after the war. As Marcy seems likely to be 4 in the picture you're heavily implying it lasted one year at most
Both seem to be around 170 cm actually. It's just Finn who's a fucking midget, and then again it's logical given the circumstances 1000 years after the end of human civilization.
we'll see. he might be a manlet, or not.
Mind you, people who get muscled at a too early age tend to be smaller because the tension of the muscles make the bones grow less.
>you're heavily implying it lasted one year at most
I actually think it only lasted a few month at best.
I think Albert Einstein was saying “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
It's a nuclear war, or even a more powerful weapon.
Fuck, have you seen the planet? Most of the civilisation might have been destroyed the moment it exploded. Not much nor a lot of people were left to pursue the war. From that point on it was just people simply fighting to survive.
It's more common in cartoons/anime that if someone was reincarnated from something powerful, they retain the spirit or power of that thing. It's not like regular religious reincarnation where nothing remains. The way jmoyns did this made it look like Finn was the chosen one or something, which was the opposite of his point.
It won't be over in just a few months though. No government ever, may it be Murrica or the Soviets, would ever think about using their whole arsenal in such a small time. Even if the planet isn't viable for humans after a few dozens of ICBM both sides would try to at least stay alive for as long as possible, probably extending the effective wartime.
Also the planet's shape isn't really an argument. It's more played for the laughs and general information about how bad it was than about actual history. You surely know our planet would be completely dead forever if something did manage to blow such a huge chunk away.
Apart from Marcy absolutely nobody called her Bonnie until she lost her kingdom. There would be no reason for Finn to start calling her by her first name unless she effectively isn't a princess anymore, and he changed his habits the first episode after she lost it.
Yeah that doesn't really dampen being the reincarnation of a god, and then the god calling upon him to return to godhood. It's too glaringly animu and I can understand how some people got confused about the intent.
In any case it's fucking stupid to waste plot on such a generic spiritual message that not only changes nothing, but JUSTIFIES it.
It would be over the moment the bomb is launched. For everyone. We actually don't know what was the situation of the conflict, but nothing forbid for the conflict to have escalated quickly. It seems to me that the scene there >>77690827
take place AFTER the bomb, as the bomb, made out of the essence of the Lych, is likely to be the rift that allowed the demons to enter it.
Comets are no Gods, though. They present themeslves a catalyst event and God has been clearly established as being Grob Gob Glob Grod
It would be over the moment the Lich bomb is launched, but I'm talking about the actual nuclear war. We still don't know who made it, what it actually was and who dropped it. It is very unlikely it was dropped on day one, given the amount of actual nuclear warheads still lying around all over Ooo.
People don't refer constantly to other by the exact same name.
Finn has the habit of referring to people by their acronyms. it might not be an absolute constant, but there is no reason either for him to stop doing that completely.
So what does Finn currently have going for him that's good? He might be forever a manlet, the grass arm is as consistent as Greece's economy and he doesn't have any cool powers because Jesse says fuck you bro.
Steven is more interesting than Finn at this point m8. It's like they're trying to make him into https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ck0su859Ps
>it felt like there was something related to Finn's babyhood and the character.
The people who wrote King Worm probably thought so. I remember speculating about this. She looks watery like she drowned, the mansion she haunted was near the ocean, Finn is afraid of the ocean, etc. etc.
>Jmoyns took the strongest foot in the writing phase on the following seasons
Well jmoyns invented the character in the first place back in season 3, so he finished it the way he wanted. Although I have a hard time believing he meant her to be a past life all this time because the explanation was obviously pulled out of his butt at the last second. ok so radioactive waste made her mutate into that form while she was still alive and that's why she looks like a spooky ghost? and Finn had no deep/repressed reason to be afraid of her -- she was just spooky? you're a retard, Jesse.
You mean that shit boss battle that was built up and only took a few swipes to kill?
>Defeated The Tree Monster
That was Ancient Psychic Tandem War Elephant who saved everyone's buns, not Finn or Jake specifically.
>Saved A Planet in Astral Plane
That was Glob who sacrificed himself to save Mars, Finn was just floating around and shit
Please give me more examples anon.
Nah, just wanted to point it out, last time I said it a lot of people actually didn't know it.
>It was more a connection for connections sake iirc
I don't know, it was imo a nice way to tell that this still is the same area that is known as Ooo in the original timeline.
>You mean that shit boss battle that was built up and only took a few swipes to kill?
And that he defeated by himself.
>That was Ancient Psychic Tandem War Elephant who saved everyone's buns, not Finn or Jake specifically.
That was Finn and Jake who were in command. and they had been fighting against it before hand.
>That was Glob who sacrificed himself to save Mars, Finn was just floating around and shit
Without finn, it wouldn't have happened.
Finn is a hero who actually save lifes. he has the strength of a human but he know how to put it to good use.
>His sword is not really him.
It actually is.
>here's absolutely no reason to think that will happen aside from "hurr fairy tale".
It could happen if they are unwilling to leave him single at the end of the series. He's spent most of his life being such a good friend and helper to her. Quid pro quo.
The grass sword seems to function subconsciously, if not completely on its own to protect him when it deems necessary. It's not the same as holding a piece of metal in your hand.
>And that he defeated by himself.
If the grass sword wasn't there he and the world would have been shit outta luck.
>That was Finn and Jake who were in command. and they had been fighting against it before hand.
And doing nothing of substance. Root Beer Guy is the one who bought them enough time to get the elephant in the first place. Both these instances scream "Fuck. How do we have beat this thing?" Que what we have now.
>Without finn, it wouldn't have happened.
I'm pretty sure either way Glob would have sacrificed himself to protect Mars. He wouldn't just get off the face of the planet and leave his brothers to parish.
I bet you ate up Betty and Dream of Love too.
But Marceline was born first so she gets dibs because fuck everything they had beforehand.
Yeah, a slight height increase that comes and goes depending on the boarder and a mustache we never see are totally enough for a 17 year old.
I'm expecting some magical changes at 18, though.
>If the grass sword wasn't there he and the world would have been shit outta luck.
If the grass sword wasn't there he would have still find a way. Jake might have died, though.
>And doing nothing of substance.
They are the one who saved the day. Once again, they are the one who brought the right tool to defeat the enemy.
>I'm pretty sure either way Glob would have sacrificed himself to protect Mars.
It seems clear he would have chosen to remain and restart anew.
I like Betty, but not Dream of Love.
It's clear there that he was in complete control of it and knew what he was doing.
Why the fuck do the interesting AT discussions happen in bad bait threads now instead of happening in the AT threads? I feel like it's been more and more the case in the last couple of weeks.
>mfw the indifferentiated love she feels of all her candy subjects will be revealed as the same she feels for fucking everybody
not him, but Finn seemed kinda indifferent to Bonnie during the so far aired S7 episodes. I feel like their relation has changed during the whole Orgalorg finale.
Well, if you consider the "normal" AT thread that has been kept around in the last weeks a general, then I must honestly say that it seriously is very different from the other ones. It's probably the only "general" nowadays where you could actually talk about stuff with other people, and not only shitpost.
Finn isn't a real person. It's the writers fault for breaking him up with FP when no-fucking-body asked for it sending his character to hell but then bending over backwards to the vocal minority that is Bubbline
He's in his teens and she's obviously easing up. I'm not saying it has to happen right now but he's got his entire 20s to go through and a lot to learn. It's pretty much knows he's gonna be a stud when he reaches adulthood anyways. Something could possibly happen if the writers stop making her fucking act bipolar around him jfc
>No one will take it seriously.
If it makes somebody on the staff happy, what we think wouldn't stop it.
I'd vote for Finn to remain single but it doesn't seem super likely. My guess is they want him to marry somebody after he's sufficiently grown.
Even if they're somehow making an effort to do a height increase of what, >foot? it's not going to make an impact on the audience and just seems silly to do. This is a sloppily handmade show and relative height and proportions of characters change even within the same episode.
To make an impact he should be as tall as the girls or taller, not just "slightly less short". That gets lost in the extreme noise of the storyboarding so I don't know why they'd bother. Better yet, change his body type. You don't have to get out the ruler for that one.
Reign of Gunters.
They're also clearly lesbians imo.
What I don't get is why we wasted a whole season on Martin and Finn's family and alluded to past only to have him die/disappear without explaining ANYTHING that was suddenly brought up? We didn't learn a single goddamn thing in season 6 and that just really annoyed me imo.
Ooo is just a big island/small continent actually. During the Stakes miniseries we also found out that most humans that survived the Mushroom War probably left Ooo for other continents with big ships.
If I were writing for Adventure Time, or running the show, I would take the show in another direction.
I'd make one whole season of Finn and Jake adventuring. but it would have continuity, and they leave the Candy Kingdom for a while. They'd pack up with some things, take BMO, and just start walking in one direction and explore the world for a while. Maybe have an overarching story of self realization for Finn. They could help other smaller kingdoms along the way.
I think it could be fun. Why keep Finn and Jake in one spot, when they have a huge, interesting world to be discovered?
Dont give me that crap. Finn has saved PB and her kingdom countless times. He just wanted to lay his head on her lap, not have sex with her. The least she could do was not bust his balls like that and let him have his little moment.