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Iron Fist is still coming

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http://collider.com/marvel-iron-fist-netflix-series/

Joe Quesada said it, now the Marvel head of TV Jeph Loeb has spoke about it. Danny's show was never getting cancelled, they are seeding his show through the others. Comicbookcast said Marvel cast Danny months ago from that particular podcast (his and Matt's outfits are apparently going to be the same material, not keen), around about the time Ryan Phillippe's and Luke Bracey's name came up, and I inclined to believe them. Nuke and Hogarth wasn't announced until NYCC. Luke was it Jess's show, because like Jeph said he's a huge part of her story.

Jeph said they are VERY excited by whats coming, and so am I, I really hope we see the past Iron Fists, especially Wu Ao-Shi.

The fear mongering can stop, now. Be happy Iron Fist fans, for we still get hours of Danny.
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>>77639182
I hope Luke will be a part of the show.
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PleasebeDanStevensPleasebeDanStevensPleasebeDanStevens.
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No one believed the rumor except autismos playing an embarrassing game of telephone.
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>>77639182
>his and Matt's outfits are apparently going to be the same material
I magine they mean the black outfit?
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>>77639182
Uh huh, yeah, sure. Also, Spore will be a great game on release and the Affordable Care Act will be beneficial to everyone.

I'll believe it when it gets released.
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>>77639224
I heard something about it being padded, but he heals,right? The proto-daredevil outfit makes more sense.
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>>77639182

>same material, not keen

why?

someone in new york is manufacturing a more cloth-like kevlar fabric, Kingpin was using it for his suits so Matt used some for his DD costume. Whats wrong with another hero in this world, a non-unbreakable-skin hero, from drawing on the same resource?
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>>77639234
Unlike other comicbook studios Marvel have a pretty clean track record on delivering on promises.
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>>77639182
>Comicbookcast said Marvel cast Danny months ago from that particular podcast (his and Matt's outfits are apparently going to be the same material, not keen), around about the time Ryan Phillippe's and Luke Bracey's name came up, and I inclined to believe them. Nuke and Hogarth wasn't announced until NYCC. Luke was it Jess's show, because like Jeph said he's a huge part of her story.


So your confirmation of this is what? More internet rumours and hearsay?
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>>77639211
>PleasebeDanStevensPleasebeDanStevensPleasebeDanStevens


Too young. Misty Knight is in her mid thirties so it'll be a creepy relationship at best.
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>>77639251
They get their costume from K'un-Lun, not Melvin or even earth.

See here on the past fists, it's kind of loose, not padded. They also can heal themselves, right.
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>>77639272
He's 32
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It's just going to be shit like JJ and DD. They have no budget and the writing is piss poor.
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>>77639264
I usually take things like that with a pinch of salt. However, as important comicbook characters in JJ were kept on the down-low until comic con, and that Jeph and Joe have said they had actors in mind for certain roles before auditions even began, and in Phillippe's case was talked to about a Netflix Marvel property. It lends credence.

And if you're still skeptical about them, at least the "Iron Fist is not cancelled" news came from the horses' mouths.
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>>77639264
Comicbook Resources asked Jeph Loeb is there'll be casting news soon, and he said "Yes, there'll be news". Which meet I'm pretty sure they have their lead.
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>>77639459
*means
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Considering his style
Does this mean DD ep2-level choreography, every episode?
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>>77639182
Awesome. Now, what's the recommended reading? Immortal Iron Fist from what I've gathered, all of it or only the part written by Ed Brubaker?
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>>77639459
They still haven't even announced their show runner yet.

How could they have a definite schedule without one?
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Never read any of this shit, but I watched a couple JJ episodes.

Is Danny the fetishy fuck? Or- different Danny?
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Oh my dear Christ please be true I'm falling in love with these marvel Netflix shows Danny would be the fucking best to see in this universe
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>>77639802
>Is Danny the fetishy fuck? Or- different Danny?

If you might mighty whitey come to set Kun Lun free of their bondage and some brown frosting on top, then yes.
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>>77639802
Seems like bait considering this entire thread but fuck it Danny is an entirely different superhero getting his own show and he hasn't been casted yet
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>>77639789
This. Is there a /co/ commended list for Iron Fist?
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Let's be honest, the fearmongering only happened cause Punisher fans.
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>>77639182
Joe Quesada is so insufferable it's no wonder why Kevin Feige kicked Quesada's creative control group out of Marvel Studios.
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>>77639844
Waiting for the moment the anti rec anon shows up to tell us not to spoonfeed.
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>>77639797
The showrunner was under the the lead question.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/jeph-loeb-says-theres-never-been-any-change-on-iron-fist
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>>77639850
And, well-meaning Moon Knight fans.
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>>77639272
lol, wasn't Danny 19 when they first met? She was early twenties?

Anyway, Dan Stevens isn't that young.
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>>77639182
For anyone who doesn't want to click the article:

>So even though there was a rumor that Iron Fist was being scrapped/shelved/delayed, or what have you, simply because things were quiet on the news front, Loeb confirms that this is not the case:

>“There was a lot of speculation about what was going on with ‘Iron Fist,’ because [fans] hadn’t heard anything about it, but there’s never been any change at all.”

>In fact, when asked if fans can expect to see some casting announcements or other hard news sometime soon, Loeb said:

>“The short answer is, ‘Yes, there’ll be news.”

>While that news certainly comes as, well, good news, it’d be better if we had a bit of an explanation as to why things have been quiet to begin with. Loeb provides one:

>“We knew exactly what we were doing at Marvel and at Netflix. Let’s get [‘Jessica Jones’] out there, everybody knows that ‘Luke Cage’ is up and going. What I can say right now is we’re very excited about ‘Iron Fist.'”
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Can't wait for Danny to fist some bad guys.
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Can't wait to see how they make him work with out the magic. Kun lun as vanaheim please.
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I really hope it's like the latest run where we see his actual childhood in K'un-lun and don't just skip straight past to right before he leaves.
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>>77641256
Also, Sparrow.
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>>77639789
>only the part written by Ed Brubaker
The part written by Matt Fraction. Brubaker's name was only put on the book to help it sell more, but he's gone on record saying that his only contribution was spitballing a few ideas to Fraction over XBOX Live.
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>>77642254
Really? Because, in this interview Matt said it was Ed's passion project since the age of 14, but he was put on to co-write, because Robert Kirkman said no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc78kIT0vls
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>>77641256
>>77641220
>>77642126

Don't have the budget for that.
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>>77643039
Which is why >>77641220
Is most likely.
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>>77639789

I honestly enjoyed the 2nd half of Immortal more than the Fraction half.
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So let me get this straight, a bunch of Asians stuck in the Chinese feudal ages are somehow technologically advanced enough to travel across universes and bestow powers of powerful punches to a worthy warrior?
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>>77643176
I think they're actual aliens who got trapped on Earth but in a separate dimension that only intersects with ours every so many years.

Assuming their champion wins the tournament, that is.

I'm probably terribly wrong, though.
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>>77643176
They're magic.
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>>77643176
>somehow technologically advanced
There is no tech
Only magic
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>>77639261
Marvel didn't even make any "promises" up until they announced the phase 3 schedule and immediately started fucking with it.
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>>77643065
Really? It felt kinda anti-climatic to me.
Like the IF killer should have been pre-7 Cities and that the eight cities ending just kinda fizzled out due to the whole Davos/Danny/1st IF thing. I was waiting for a climax that never seemed to happen.
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>>77643421
Even if film schedules are shifted and altered, properties that were announced usually come out.
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>>77643421
Didn't they promise us Age of Ultron would be a good movie?
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>>77643648
Especially, compared to Sony or Fox.
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I still need to read IIF, I've been waiting for my comicshop to have it in, for months.
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>>77639234
Spore was a great game, it just wasn't the game-to-end-all-games
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>>77639224
?
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>>77639182
>INB4 SJWs boycott show for appropriating Asian culture.
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>>77639182
>I really hope we see the past Iron Fists, especially Wu Ao-Shi.
Her story was good, but Bei Bang-Wen was cool too.
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>>77639182
Good. I only cared about DD and IF anyway. Sucks he's last though.
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>>77644829
I might have to throw hands, I am getting sick and tired of these people complaining about something that they havent read with their retarded bullshit
>inb4 why do you come to /co/?
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>>77644955
It's giving me a headache, by how much of the character they are getting completely wrong.
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I was kind of hoping Kilgrave would still be alive to be the bigbad for Defenders
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>>77645364
Does it had a healing factor, but I guess characters coming back fro the dead won't work on Street-level. And, besides after all that it would feel like a cop out.
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>>77646279
*he have
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>>77639182
Thank god. This is the only Netflix series I actually care about.
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Kurt Russell as Orson Randall. Y/Y?
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Is Marco Polo still going, if not I think Benedict Wong could be perfect as Fat Cobra. He wouldn't even have to loose any weight!
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>>77639224
they're probably referencing the FABRIC material of the final suit, not the rubber padding
Even if Danny heals, you wouldn't want to leave your blood all over town.
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>>77639211
He's too popular to star in a shitty Marvel Netflix show.
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And, of course the one character left to cast, is the one that the Internet's having racial flame wars over. They should have just released it like a plaster. This show will have a 1000 think pieces before it's even released. Verge has already done one. I'm sure with Jessica having good reviews for how it handles rape, trauma PTSD, and the shows feminism, and I'm sure Luke Cage will get commended for it's ruminations on racial issues, Marvel won't want all that good publicity to go to waste. Interesting how they handle it. Wouldn't be surprised if they pull an Asgard and make K'un-Lun mixed, however the messed with the whole 'visual outsider' thing. Middle ground could be KL looks 70% percent Asian, with other races.

Or they could just empathize the fuck out of them being aliens?

The whole 'white beating Asian to get Iron Fist', is why showing the past IFs prominently and the legacy is of upmost importance. You could also show them, maybe as different races.

BTW, why are people so zoned in on KL they forget most of his superheroing/'saving' happens in NYC and NOT K'un-Lun?
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>>77648602
I heard it was padded.
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>>77644829
Internet's social justice US Centrism, The mangled definition of racism, and the term "Cultural Appropriation" being used wrongly will have the potential to make the Iron Fist fandom fucking horrible.
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>>77639234
Wasn't Spore just a creature-creator? Not much game play there.
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>>77639194
Maybe a little bit, but I'm sure Netflix will want all four prominently in The Defenders.
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>>77643176
The MCU may explain it away as technology, but tech itself is band in K'un-Lun.
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>>77639789
Read the original marvel premiere (15-25) run shit is cash, then the Claremont/Byrne iron fist run
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>>77639789
Few years out of date but here you go
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>>77639194
It'd be cool.Make him sort of the street level Captain America.I mean it'd make sense if he's friends with Danny. Gets Jessica and Danny because he knows them, then Daredevil's sorta the dude whose been fighting crime on his own.
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>>77647307
>Kurt Russell as Orson Randall. Y/Y?
Y
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>>77643065
>>77643488
i think the second collection arc is better, or at least had better mini stories
but each goddamn story ends with "fuck it, the immortal city will deal with it now" including the entire 8th city

it just makes danny and the other weapons seem kinda shitty passing the problem off so often
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>>77651973
Should Secret Love be added?
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>>77652304
Why not, that shits cute. Especially, if you ship MistyxDanny. What is their shipping name?
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>>77652168
You have good taste, my friend. I know people want Bruce Willis, but Netflix budget. Kurt is just as good, and it kinda fits with the movies he's done in the past.
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>>77652355
Iron Knight? Misty Fist?
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>>77652304
>more racemixing

100% it will be added to the show
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>>77652794
The OG interracial couple.
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>>77652355
Fisty
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>>77652355
Except misty is an unlikeable cunt
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>>77652794
I wonder what /tv/'s reaction to two interracial couples will be?
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>>77653138
They will scream kek to the heavens with Danny and misty even though they will be 40 years slow
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>>77654969
>implying they care as long as the man is white
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>>77639344
How can a single statement be so utterly wrong?
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>>77651973
What about the Marvel NOW Iron Fist? I really like this costume.
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>>77644810
I could see the TV costume looking something like this, minus the armour.
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>>77655216
Knowing them they'll probably be disappointed he doesn't hook up with Colleen, or Sparrow, because they're Asian and not black.
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>>77654969
Imagine if that Cloak and Dagger show got off the ground. They would explode, even though they're friends.
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>>77653138
>two

Matt and Claire though
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>>77659321
as I said its out of date but ill be adding living weapon on there
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>>77661100
Not official, but teased. Karen Page will probably be end game, even though him and Claire had more chemistry.
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How would they handle the visuals of the show? Are they going to have glowing fists and shit?

And is the tone gonna be dark like the others? Are Iron Fists stories usually dark like DD?
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>>77661557
>Matt
>having an end game
Cant have an end game when your GFs are too busy dying
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This is all I want.
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>>77661648
#curseddick
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>>77662221
>Murdock
>Murder cock
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>>77662248
MotherofGod.jpg
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I see Aaron Paul's name sometimes pop up in Iron Fist casting suggestions. Is this a meem answer, or people really want him to play Danny?
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>>77662995
People without imagination want him.

People with taste want
>>77661673
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>>77639344
This power definitely can't be foregrounded like theirs.
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>>77659321
Living Weapon is a really weird story.
It's a bit grittier and more serious than most Danny stories are.
It's really sorta all over the place in quality.
There are times where moments land, and sometimes where it's way off mark.
Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
But, yeah, the black/yellow inverted Bruce Lee jumpsuit is baller as fuck.
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>>77639251
>someone

Fuck off casual /tv/ faggot

Read a god damn Frank Miller book
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>>77663733
OK, Anon they didn't know that was Melvin, but there is no need for /v/-tier rage.
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>>77663653
Definitely liked the expansion on his childhood, and his parents relationships though. But, yeah, comes of the things in it were really out there even for Iron Fist. Is it canon with the latest Powerman and Iron Fist?
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>>77659321
That run was pretty painful desu. I would only recommend to people who would want to see what's currently up with Danny,
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>>77663942
>Is it canon with the latest Powerman and Iron Fist?
Yeah, but it all happened over a year ago in-universe, so that's enough of a timeskip that they could easily retcon a bunch of it off-panel. He's keeping the suit and weapons from Living Weapon, but I'm not sure if any of the other stuff will carry over.

I mean, if they stick to NYC and don't get into the K'un-Lun stuff then there really wouldn't be much from it to address.
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> Iron Fist is just one long Bloodsport/Mortal Kombat/Enter the Dragon tournament where Danny has to slowly work his way to the final kung fu'ing dudes across K'un-Lun

MUH DICK
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>>77664322
When was the last time I read or watched a good tournament arc? It's been a while. I'd be pumped for that.
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>>77664322
>white dude beating all the aliens that look asian

I can see the 'problematiq' think-pieces, now.
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>>77643273
>>77643176

No, it's called fucking magic.
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>>77644850

I would really like to see the Orson Randall stuff, but I think an Immortal Iron Fist story would be best served in season 2.
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>>77664322
>across K'un-Lun
The show is taking place in NYC. You'll be lucky if we get any K'un-Lun beyond a couple flashbacks.

No reason it can't still be one long tournament. Have him go up against Shang-Chi as the penultimate fight. Maybe have Taskmaster in there watching the tournament so he can learn people's moves. Have Davos orchestrating it and Danny entering to find out what his master plan is.
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>>77652355

>their shipping name

Ugh, God, what are you, People magazine for superheroes? Awful.
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>>77652355
I wish you the worst kind of cancer.
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>>77659321

Is it all-yellow, or is the "lighting" just making it look not green? Because an all-yellow IF outfit would look pretty bad on screen.
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>>77661557

Wasn't Elektra cast for S2?
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>>77665700
It's yellow and black.
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I like Daredevil in the comics, I really liked Daredevil the show.
I have a total soft spot for loser cunt Jessica, I really liked Jessica Jones the show.
I love Luke as a character, I'm cautiously optimistic for his show because I really liked his actor in JJ.
If Luke Cage is good I will assume that these are not flukes and enter 'Hype' to Iron Fist and not a moment before.
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>>77665662
lolwat.
>>77665685
lol
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>>77661673
>>77663037

Y'all are crazy, that guy looks like Dana Carvey started working out.
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I finished Fraction's run.
Anything else that's worth reading?
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>>77665722

Hm. I'd be okay with that, I guess. I would prefer green. Or maybe the New Avengers suit, but I think that would look silly probably.
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>>77665732
OHSHIT.
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>>77665728

Ohmigod did you hear about Brangelina?!
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Reuben Langdon for Danny
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>>77665815
Okay, I think you have me mistaken for someone else. I don't give a toss about 'Brangelina', just wondered if they had a portmanteau so I don't have to type out their names everytime.
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>>77665878
Never heard of the guy, but I could see it. Is he a decent actor and can he move?
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Jeremy Renner for Danny Rand
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>>77665955

Sorry, I think you misunderstand, I'm making fun of you for being a twelve year old girl.
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>>77665958
He's done some stunt work. He voices Ken in the Street Fighter 4 series, and he even played Ken in a Street Fighter X Tekken fan film.
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>>77666083

That's a picture of Star-Lord
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>>77639194
I want Danny to also appear in Luke's show, they need to get a little Heroes for Hire coming on before Defenders starts.
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>>77666561

I don't think Aja has ever done any Star Lord.
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>>77664322
That'd be amazing
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>>77665780
Anything but the white suit. I think yellow and dark green would work.
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Whoever gets to be Danny they better have chemistry with Luke's actor more so than Jessica's actress, Luke and Danny are the ultimate BroTP
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>>77652954
Which is why she's perfect for Paladin, he's an unlikable ass and they both are hot when they get together.
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>>77644829
Nah, tumblr will bitch about it and say they hate it and then pick at it but they will end up loving Danny anyway once the show comes out, probably 5 or 4 butthurt SJWs will stay buttmad but everyone else will sing the old "I can like something and find it problematic you guise!" which is them trying to like something they know they aren't suppose to be but also trying to retain moral high ground.

And once they see him be BFF with Luke and in Defenders they'll like it more although SJWs are shipping racist so Danny will be paired with Matt.
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>>77667275
The same shit happened with Ant-Man, they cried about it but now most of tumblr loves it.
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>>77667275
His two main ships are with black people, so we'll see how that works out.
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>>77639264
>>77639194
An actor who posted up an audition for Luke Cage was speaking to a Mr Rand, before it was deleted. Which could mean we'll see Danny earlier than his show.
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Christina Chong would make the perfect Colleen Wing.
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>>77669625

I would be okay with that. That woman is gorgeous.
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>>77668382
Good, honestly Danny and Luke need to meet before Defenders happens, having Danny in Luke's show and Luke in Danny's is a good way to build up their friendship.

They need to be the tightest of bros.
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>>77670297

Yeah, I was a bit weirded out that he met Jess before Danny at all.
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>>77670038
Plus, she's worked with Mike Colter in Halo before so she should have an in. Simone Missick's husband worked with the Luke Cage showrunner on a previous show, so that probably helped to secure an audition.

I thought I had to recheck my choice, to see if she would fit in with the other H4H crew's ages, but she's perfect. I Can't believe Miss Chong is 32!
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>>77661557
>Daredevil
>keeping a gf
>not suffering
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>>77661557
>Endgame
>Matt Murdock

Nooope, the best he can hope for is an on and off with Elektra.
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>>77665652
secret portal in nyc to k'un-l'un that only aligns once every 7 years to the heavenly city

there problem solved

danny was there as a kid, loses his parents, trains for 7 years, comes back to nyc, gets his billions, fucks around, 7 years later portal is eminent has to fight immortal weapons. puts him in his early 30s easily.

shit writes itself
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>>77671154
How can Charlie Cox be so cute?! I don't understand it.
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>>77671237

Just a heads up, anything that "writes itself" is generally shit.
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GOAT. Orson Randall

1. New Avengers
2. Shirtless
- Power Gap -
3. New New Avengers White
4. Disco Open Collar Green
5. Disco Open Collar White
6. Ultimate Vest
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>>77649122
its somewhere we havent seen in the MCU
how many times have we seen NY
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>>77671583
4 is the best
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I'd be okay with a Danny that was Asian. He was adopted by the Rands. Easy.

I'd be okay if they stuck with the original too.

Anyway, I really want Mister Negative to appear in the Netflix shows. Fuck, he's perfect.
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>>77671878
mr negative and purple man team up with the other colours of the rainbow and kick the defenders arses
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>>77671787
Nah, it's because the are so myopically focused on 'white guy in an Asian city', they want to change his race. While forgetting that's just one half of him. The other half is he has a black best friend who grew up poor, and where his white privilege plays a factor in their relationship dynamic.
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>>77671583
>#4 ranked that low
Get the fuck out, classic look best look
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>>77671583
Surprised the red one's not on there. The full white suit could be moved further downwards.
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>>77659321
The only people I see who dislike this arc haven't read the marvel premiere run
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>>77671583
>disco below white suit
>no living weapon outfit

gtfo
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>>77666083
kek

underrated post
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>>77673458
Whether people like it or not, they can't deny Mr Andrews didn't do his research.
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>>77674041
>>77673458
I havent read but it seems most complaints are
>not muh Immortal

Not that Immortal isnt ood but theres nothin wron with bein different
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>>77674041
how did he not do his research? yeah he retconned some shit in immortal (lei kungs daughter) and put a twist on MP 15 & 16 (which shows he did do his research) if anything immortal didnt do its research, created a huge plothole with the other iron fists and tree of immortaility
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>>77674819
ps I love the immortal run
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>>77674819
I'm saying he did.
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>>77675003
English is hard.
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>>77640790
Makes sense, they didn't want to over shadow JJ with extra news. Once it's out for two weeks we can be hopeful for news but they will give it at least 2 weeks.
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>>77674366
I've being seeing that a lot too. It's obvious he's combed through Danny's backstory and used that to influence his run. Also, people don't like to see a brooding Danny, but tbf after seeing your parents killed in front of you aged nine, that would certainly leave some PTSD scars. We haven't really seen Danny deal with that before. I really liked the expansion on Danny's childhood and his parents relationship, sparrow was a good foil for him and I hope she gets introduced in the show.
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>>77643039
I hope Netflix ups the budget for these successful shows. Hell, they gave Marco Polo 90 million, DD and JJ only got 50. With how successful these shows are they can afford to bump it up to 65 easily. Marvel is good at doing stuff on a small budget, Ant Man was the smallest budget yet.
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>>77674366
Is your 'g' stuck?
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>>77644654
I just started reading it, picked up the first two trades from the library
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>>77644955
just the the backlash that happened about rape being included in JJ, huh? Oh wait, that didn't happen, the show is being critically praised, has a higher rating than DD on IMDB.

/co/ makes a bigger deal about SJWs than they make about media
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>>77675659
Tried the library first, they had one copy and they lost it. Gonna ask my LCS again if it's it's in, if not I might as well order from Amazon. If I did before I would have gotten it by now.
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>>77675785
JJ had type before the show even aired, and even though rape and abuse are difficult topics to discuss, people were looking forward to how the show would appropriately deal with that. Contrast that with the IF property. Anywhere you go that is discussing the character descends into a 'back and forth' about his race. Fan petitions are being made, think-pieces are being wrote about how 'problematic' and archaic the character is, people are spreading unfounded rumours that Marvel is going to change his race, getting people's hopes up for nothing.

It's causing some anti-hype.
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>>77665732
Do you even get the joke?
That's Iron Fist's VA in Ultimate Spider-Man. Greg Cipes.
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i mean, danny is some dumb imperialist bullshit.
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what's Iron Fists darkest run? Daredevil has tons of dark stories to pull from, JJ is dark from the beginning, Cage's origin is really dark, but I don't know much Iron Fist besides heroes for Hire stuff. Does he have dark runs to pull from?
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>>77676345
The latest?
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>>77674366
For me it's because Andrews likes to write these dark edgy as fuck stories, like cancerous Spider-sperm. Danny was out of character for me, yeah he was mad as fuck when he got back to NY, but his buddies helped him. Danny wasn't mad anymore, and this isn't just in IFF, other writers wrote him as happy but serious when he needed to be. He was acting happy and goofing off in Might Avengers (Ewing), but in Andrews' story he was angry again. It didn't make sense to me.

I just don't like Andrews. The letter he wrote at the end of the first issue really made him come off as an arrogant asshole because he wrote and drew the comic.
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>>77661673
Who's this ugly fuck?
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>>77677561
see
>>77676294
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>>77676294

No, sorry I don't watch Ultimate Spider-Man... That's not really a joke so much as a reference either. But no matter what you call it, Ultimate Spider-Man is just terrible, and why are you watching it or paying attention to it?
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>>77676332

How is him being orphaned and adopted by the mystic city and raised as one of them the same comparable to imperialism
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>>77678330
I'm not watching it, I just like Greg Cipes for his other roles, and thought that he was an interesting choice for voice since he kind of has the body type and looks of Danny.
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>>77676345
yeah the original marvel premiere (especially the first few issues) were super dark, and obviously the recent kaare andrews run. They both deal with his origin and character which is no coincidence, whereas immortal was more focused on his world
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>>77677378
he was just like he was in the beginning anon, read marvel premiere 15-16 its perfecty in character and closer to his roots than any of IIF (despite IIF being better) was
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>>77676332
People who say this shit and talk about casting an Asian-American as Danny have never read an Iron Fist comic
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>>77679994
>what is character progression
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>>77680995

I want a latino lead actually. I'm still butthurt they didn't take the leap and change Matt.
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>>77665958
He mocapped and did the voice acting for Dante in Devil May Cry 3 and 4. Guy is an amazing stunt man besides.
But no he can't act for shit, hammy all the way
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>>77681075
why
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>>77681015
your right they never really did a good job explaining him getting over it, good thing living weapon gave us that character progression
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>>77682400

Yes, I agree with this man 100%. Incidentally, I don't think the twins leaving the Brotherhood and becoming Avengers was ever really, you know, properly dealt with. What do you say we have one of them become a deranged supervillain all of a sudden? Maybe kill a few Avengers. After all, they were villains originally, right? So it makes sense.


I haven't read Living Weapon and so don't have any opinion on it, but arguments like yours are common and they're stupid. What, do you think IcemanxPolaris should be a thing, too?
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>>77682980
its obvious you havent read it, the fuck you smokin you jive turkey
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>>77681075
All latino Kung-Fu fighters seem to be White Tigers.
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>>77678389
A surprising amount of people think he entered K'un-Lun as an adult, and was 'humbled' by the inhabitants of the city and helps them out. Like Kevin Coster in "Dances with Wolves", but with Asian people and not Native-Americans. When it comes to that I can understand why people would like it to be a bit less inflammatory and the best way could be to change his race to an American of Asian descent going back to his root/cultural heritage, but Danny was raised there since he was a child, he's culturally K'un-Lian NOT American, that what he goes back to.
It probably doesn't help when people defend the character as staying white they say he is a "stranger in a strange land" in KL, and if they don't people usually interpret it that way. He's a visual outsider in KL, but a "fish out of water/stranger in a strange land" when he's back in AMERICA.

What people don't seem to realise is that by asked Danny be Asian-American, they aren't asking for Danny rand, but the reverse Danny Rand.

(Also, KL isn't even on the earthly plane. Also, the Iron Fist being a mantle.)
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>>77665559
They are canonically extra-terrestrials, though.
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Will he be rich?
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>>77686382
Pretty sure that will be a yes.
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>>77647307
>We really shook the pillars of heaven, didn't we Danny?
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>>77639182

I've never gotten into Iron Fist but I'm trying to. Any good arcs that you suggest?
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>>77686472
They won't shy out due to rich playboy who is also a superhero being in everything live action nowadays?

I know it's from the source material, just saying normies might complain of copying from arrow(Ollie AND Ray) Batman, Iron Man etc
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>>77686601
They may make him not the archetypal 'rich playboy'. When he comes back to earth, he only has the vague memories of a nine year old child, they could do it so he didn't know/remember his parents were that rich, and because of his (rural) upbringing he's not really into money/city life.
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>>77686522
see
>>77651973

Most people's starting point is the Immortal Iron Fist, you could try there. Then go back to his original Marvel Premiere, it's decisive but see what you think of The Living Weapon, too.
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What threat do you think the Defenders are going to defend us from?
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>>77681075
I think Latin American would be best. Particularly someone who has native blood. White is gonna piss off SJWs and black doesn't represent all diversity. And forget Asian because that has problems too. Danny is the outsider that grew up there so a Latino would work best.
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>>77687212
>black doesn't represent all diversity.
And Latino does? Fuck you, this is an adaptation. The only things they should worry about is making a good story and making it as much in the spirit of the comics and the character as possible. Fuck you and any idea of pleasing you.
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What if they kept Iron Fist white, but cast a woman instead?
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>>77687376
Doubtful, but that would change less about the character than if you changed his race, and would further the contrast between his(her) best bud Luke Cage.

>One's black, the other's white
>One grew up poor, the other rich (at least for a while)
>One's a brawler, the other a martial artist
>One's a man the other is a woman.
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>>77685207
I don't agree with this but I think it's more about the racist trope of a white foreigner being better at fighting than the natives
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>>77686993

Nice, thanks man.
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>>77687525
This is why they NEED to have individual episodes devoted past Iron Fists (maybe of different races), to show that it wasn't just some white kid who got the title.
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>>77686601
>>77686680
Of all the superhero billionaires (Bruce, Tony, Ollie) Danny gives the least amount of fucks about his fortune

He lives in Harlem and runs heroes for hire with his black bff. He's almost like a Buddhist giving up needless possessions, living among poorer people. It makes sense because he grew up in KL so he wasn't pampered, if anything, a billionaire lifestyle would make him feel uncomfortable.

I hope he comes back and just takes a hands off approach to Rand Corp, and has hogarth run it as his intermediary. And occasionally runs the foundation stuff (opening dojos, after school programs, helping kids, funding the defenders, etc)
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>>77687333
I despise racial swaps with a passion. But if Marvel wants to depict Danny as another ethnicity, I chose Latino because they're underrepresented in US media.

I would like to see Danny casted the way he is in the comics, but tumblrites and redditors are the cancer that ruin everyone else's fun.
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>>77687545
NP.
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>>77683306

>It's obvious you haven't read it

I should hope so, seeing as I literally said that and you'd have to be retarded not to see it.
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>>77639182
Anyone who actually thought Iron Fist got cancelled is a gullable piece of shit. Stop buying into any clickbait article that gets thrown your way, idiots.

If you read MoviePilot.com and believe ANYTHING they say, for example, just kill yourself. You'll be doing the rest of the world a favor.
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>>77687096

Steel Serpent, maybe, since DD has has to deal with probably The Crane Mother.
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>>77688727
TBF, I don't think it was MoviePilot who started the rumour, but PeeltheOrange and spread by BleedingCool.
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>>77646303
It's the one I'm looking forward to most, but not gonna lie the 'racial back and forth', is causing a 'chilling effect' on me.
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>>77644810
>That breastplate
Rad

>That codpiece tho
pfft.

Not that having one is a bad idea, but stylistically and for freedom of movement's sake, I think it would work better worn under the pants. Also it obscures the belt.
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>>77688812
To be fair, MoviePilot does just make up. If they didn't start the rumor, its safe to say they regurgitated it for clickbait.
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>>77689569
This. Even if I think a hard breastplate will impede his movement, that codpiece is not good.
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>>77639844
For classic you can't go wrong with the original Clermont/Byrne run.
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The real question is, will we get to see Sabretooth?
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>>77690473
Doubt.jpg
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>>77639292
I like that her costume is fully covered.
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>>77685207
This would be really interesting to me as in NYC he'd probably hang out with people who are more fringe either because of their minority cultural status, their spiritual beliefs, or both.

He'd sort of be an opposite of Iron Man in some sense.

I bet we won't get this but here's to hoping.
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>>77692494
Yes, someone said it perfectly before. His story in KL could be of any person who doesn't fit with the visual populous, he's in a place where he's a visual outsider and he's race is a disadvantage. But, then he goes back to America where he race IS an advantage (he also finds out his parents were gazillionairs), he could sit on his laurels, but he doesn't he moves to Harlem and opens an agency with his best friend, who is a black man.
He's a white guy who knows what it's like to be othered based on his visual appearance. Do you ever notice he's like the only white guy in H4H?
Let’s take a trip back to the 70’s. Luke is a black man imprisoned for a crime he didn’t commit, and then treated horribly by prison staff when he is jailed. Luke's character comments on poverty, institutionalised racism and police brutality. They fact that he is best friends with a white rich guy who part of the 1%, that he considers his brother is pretty damn exceptional. Which was one of the whole draws of putting them together in the first place. I remember reading something about how Danny (a WASP) and Misty (a hard-nosed black cop)'s relationship was controversial, back in that day. Everyone's race, including Danny's was extremely relevant.

And, yes you're right, he creates a really good counter-point to all the other superhero billionaires like Tony Stark, who thinks that they're above everything and take the whole world in their own hands, he however thinks of the person on the street. I don't know about you, but I've always liked that about that character.

I want casting diversity was much as the next, and I'd support an Asian-American Danny Rand if it didn't change the tapestry around him. Danny Rand is one of the few white characters whose ethnicity is actually important.
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I'M SO STOKED!
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I wonder how soon it's gonna be?
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>>77639182
I just want a Power-Man and Iron Fist show on Netflix. The potential in a super-hero buddy pic set in the Daredevil/Jessica Jones world is enormous.
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>>77643176
Only if he can beat up their immortal dragon.
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>>77696568
Maybe after two or more seasons individually, they'll combine.
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>>77685207
Which is funny, because that being 'humbled by another ethnicity' thing, is Stephen Strange's thing, and I've heard next to nobody all it out.
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>>77669625
Just googled her. I can get behind this casting.
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I started reading the 2007 iron fist run last night.

It's really fucking good. The whole 7 magical cities thing and iron fist's imbuing their weapons with chi etc. It's a really engaging story, but it doesn't seem like something you can tell without having a 12-13 episode series, there is just too much iron fist world to build. 2 episode mini arcs separated by a single episode backstory on a previous iron fist while Danny searches for answers/roughs up henchmen. y/n
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>>77699203
start with his marvel premiere run, they will probably use elements of that and some IIF
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>>77688740
>steel serpent not iron fist villain
kek

I'm gonna guess something demonic and otherworldly. It can't be another street level threat.
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I hate that thanks to threads like these, I'll know enough to be disappointed by changes that are made to the source material, even though I probably wouldn't have cared or known as much just watching it in ignorance.

Also, if the current two Netflix shows are a good indicator, then it'll start out with him already on the streets doing his thing, and only start flashing back to his origin when necessary by about episode 3 or so.
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>>77641256
I'd prefer flashbacks like in DD.
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>>77644810
just have him naked wearing only the armor and codpiece & mask
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>>77702314
It could be flashbacks to his childhood, just not a straight skip. Show his relationships there.
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>>77702190
I know that feel.
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>>77699203
Yes. It's imperative at this point to show the other past fists (prominently), other than Orson. To let people know it wasn't just these white guys who got the power. People want to see an Asian IR, but Danny's race is far too important for his relationships. So, why not both?
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>>77639182
After watching DD and JJ I am a bit worried.
I can't imagine Danny's chi enforced fists and kicks accompanied by WHATAAS and YATAAS are going to mix well with the gritty look and feel Marvel has created for the Netflix side of the MCU.


So it will either look fucking silly, or Danny will just be a martial artist who can punch people real far.


They're gonna fuck this up somehow. I am willing to bet he won't even be from Kun'Lun or won't even have his Chi powers.
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>>77643276
>>77643405
>>77665559
>>77696681

> Magic
> immortal Dragon


Nothing of the sort will be in here, you know that right? Iron Fist will be a guy who stumbled upon a secret monastary with a bunch of Kung-Fu monks who will teach him their ways. Chi will be non existant. Sure they will talk about it, and you will see IF punch a few people trough walls and shit, but there will never, ever, be an immortal dragon or a magical kingdom that only appears every few years.


Marvel is constantly making a joke of "magic" in the MCU.

I fear the Dr.Strange movie.
It's going to be total shit.
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>>77707924
I think they're waiting for Dr. Strange to blow the doors off of magic before they make the Iron Fist movie
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>>77708812
I mean, Iron Fist show
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>>77708812
That actually makes a lot of sense. Would explain thr delay
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>>77670564
But how do we know this for sure? He could've had been bros with Danny for a while.
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>>77708889
It helps me maintain my faith in Marvel's movie/tv business if I delude myself like that.
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>>77708910
(I have long since lost faith in their ability to make comics that don't blow chunks, Ms. Marvel, Nova, ANGR are the only ones I've been reading from them)
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>>77708812
I'm pretty sure I read an early press release, with Danny's show being third, but not forth.

Feige did say Strange's movie opens the flood-gates to more mystic/magical stuff, Kinda like GotG and cosmic.

It's a whole corner we haven't saw yet, so it makes sense they would open it to a movie first.
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>>77709016
Yeah, I remember Iron Fist being farther up the lineup, but I think they're stalling.
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>>77708889
>Would explain thr delay
The delay is because they gave Daredevil a second season due to its high demand. Not because they wanted it to come out after Dr. Strange.
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>>77709406
They use the same crews, don't they?
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>>77710567
or crew.
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>>77649122
And that think-piece is spreading. Oh Jeez.
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>>77708812
>>77707924

Why would Marvel Entertainment and its television department give a fuck about Feige's disdain for magic anymore?

The guy just gave Marvel's CEO, their creative committee, and Jeph Loeb the middle finger when he made a power move and ran off to be with Disney's executives.
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>>77675247
Except now we're going to be entering the Luke Cage media cycle. Though I'd like an actor name at least, or a showrunner statement about their vision of Iron Fist.
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>>77687629
>and has hogarth run it as his intermediary

>Anyone trusting Jeri Hogarth that much after JJ

She needs a bit more time to get over being a shit. I hope Pam doesn't wind up in jail for her.
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>>77687096
Whatever the fuck the Hand was up to.
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>>77707875
Did you see Madam Gao wreck Matt in Daredevil? I have a feeling that his chi punches will look like that but with a bit of bonus lighting effect for when he uses the Iron Fist itself. That plus an actor who can do solid fight choreography and I'd be okay, though I'd miss the lightshow we get in comics.
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>>77713274
Season 2 Stick episodes?
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>>77712583
This. Meanwhile, Marvel Entertainment is no co-producing two x-men shows alongside Fox. Other than having to play nice with the setting so daddy disney doesn't roll in and slap 'em, they can do whatever they want.
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>>77713152
>Except now we're going to be entering the Luke Cage media cycle
Actually, we're entering the Daredevil 2 media cycle, THEN Cage.
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So that Chinese drug dealer lady from Daredevil is from K'un-Lun, right? That's the impression I got.
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>>77715571
Some people are guessing Crane Mother due to the Steel Serpent logo on the drugs.
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>>77715707
This, pretty much.
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>>77699203
>Mtw I've still waiting for Marvel to print new copies.
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