Peridot as a new permanent regular character.
Yes ? No ? Pearl 2.0 ?
> I can't see her staying longer than that. Her full redemption will probably include her demise.
That's painfully obvious. Why does storytelling have such limitations ? Why NO screen writers never have the balls to go out of the boundaries of regular story-building tropes ? Even in a show supposed to be different ?
Is it so scary to change main characters in a animated show ?
Probably because it would annoy the advertising department to no end, because they would have been extra cautious to not spoil anything.
I would also imagine that a lot of that has nothing to do with the writers, who are usually more experimental than people think, and more with the executives who think that audiences find too much change scary.
YES. Best Gem.
(Not as fascinating a character as Pearl, though. not yet.)
What do you mean by permanent regular character? I don't think she should sing in the intro or get more screen time than the real crystal gems, but she can tag along, get development, and be a info dump on the homeworld
Then when can we have executives with balls ? What's the ballsiest move allowed by executives recently ? We need a writer so good and so famous (and so bankable) executives would just let him free reigns and never have a say on he's doing.
But that's Lapis-Lazuli.
Actually, what Lapises are for back in the homeworld ? Pearls are servants, Peridots are engineer, Amethysts are warriors and Rubies and Sapphire are plebs. What are Lapises ? Confort ladies ? Plumbers ?
Is the show coming back in December? I swear, the scheduling for CN is becoming fucking ridiculous.
>let him free reigns and never have a say on he's doing.
Seeing as how some directors who had completely free reign turned out (looking at you, Burton) I'm not sure if that is a good idea. There should be a team of writers where nobody is afraid to tell the others that their ideas are bad, that's how you get interesting story progression.
>she can tag along, get development, and be a info dump on the homeworld
Yes but no, that can't last long. Either she becomes a background character (and therefore cannot live with Steven) or become a true main character. Or dies.
And yeah, I guess she would have to be in the song... which is problematic when you're frigging intro song is preventing you to make any change in the cast.
>Then again, she is a bit like Zim.
Oh they changed the fucking song before, they can change it again. The last time they just simply made it more overladen, I am sure they can tweak the lyrics a bit and still have it fit the melody.
>team of writers
If we can get rid of executives thinking in terms of audience and marketing, we can get rid of all those stupid tropes and barriers in story-telling.
>If we can get rid of executives thinking in terms of audience and marketing
They won't though, because that is exactly their job. It's their job to make sure that they can sell the product. Not everything that artists do will find somebody who wants to watch it and who will finance it then?
Problem is that some have really idiotic ideas about what can sell and what not, though as far as I can tell CN has been very lenient with what the writers of SU have been doing so far. There are probably worse.
Plus we would still get simply bad writers who are just lazy.
> We... are the crystals gems ! We always save the day ! And if you think we can't, we'll always find a way. That's why the people of this world, believe in... Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl... AND PERIDOT ! Oh and Steve.
Let's be honest, that would be an awesome one time intro twist.
>Connie isn't a main character, but she gets development. Peridot could live in the garage or survive a trip to homeworld.
Connie doesn't appear in every episodes, she's actually quite rare, same as the others secondary characters. Hell, even Lion is never around. On the other hand we ALWAYS see the house. Every episode.
How exactly are we supposed to believe Peridot is around but not interacting with the others characters ? And if she does, how is she's not a main character ?
She has to leave/die or become a main character, no other choice.
years before the show came out I remember seeing people bitching online about hearing people pronouncing the name of the actual gem as "peri-dot" instead of "peri-do" and that if you used the former pronunciation you were obviously a braindead hick.
so I guess I took that to heart so thoroughly that it shocked me at first to hear the show not use the second one.
actually I have no idea why I even cared so much as I don't think I've ever used the word in conversation in my life.
"Peri-doh" was made up by jewel sellers to make the stone sound "French" and therefore more expensive. The word is actually arabic in origin.
The word is not French in origin and is actually pronounced with a hard T.
Anyone who says "Peri-doh" is either stuck-up or has bought into jewelers propoganda
that's good to know. I just assumed they were right then because they all seemed so passionate about it.
actually i'm not sure why it being pronounced with a t was enough to make someone rage online.in the first place.
>Peridot was first mined in quantity in the U.S. in the area of Peridot, Arizona. The name of that town is pronounced "pear-a-dot".
What is your wiki exactly... ? Peridot existed and were used WAY before the US were a thing.
Pearl 1.0 was fine on her own.
Having a short quirky version of her doesn't really add or take away anything, she just sort of exists for the time being.
>what Lapises are for back in the homeworld ?
I like the theory that Lapis Lazulis are in charge of mass producing Pearls like how Peridots are in charge of Kindergartens. It makes sense because Pearls are formed in aqueous environs instead of within the Earth, so they can't be made in Kindergartens. Also, why wouldn't you have a hydrokinetic gem running a facility that's ultimately dependent on water?
yer damn right
How many of you would make a hole in her crotch? I wouldn't
>the limb enhancers are detachable for a smolidot
I'm so sad this just sold out when I heard about it.
No, /sug/ specifically is banned.
Steven Universe related topics are wholeheartedly okay so long as they're in their own thread.
And why is it that you think your opinion is somehow how more valid just because its negative? Just cause youre playing to the "hipster 4chan hate the mainstream" vibe doesnt mean your opinion is suddenly a fact.
I get that the show is popular and that it showing up constantly can get annoying, but do you honestly think youre the first guy to shit on the show or these threads? Every single thread has had at least one or two people coming in and expressing there discontent for the show, and in the beginning we had these long winded discussions about all our opinions. The thing is we still get the same people, saying the same shit, and starting up the same discussion.
Im sorry that some people who like the show are cancerous toxic anons that troll endlessly and cant shut up about what they like, but its a topic of interest for me and I'd like to have at least some discussions about it.
for the power lapis has, she must be higher on the social scale like a count or marquess
Man the mods just want us to stop shitposting and actually talk about the show. I wouldnt be surprised to find out that 1 or 2 of the mods that keep hounding us are just concerned su fans.
To stay on topic, I think peridot has a good chance of becoming a full on crystal gem at some point in the future. I mean watching the way she interacts and admires amethyst is just way too telling... buuut that could also be setting for an amazing betrayal arc... aaaaand if you look at the titles of future eps, it really sounds like some shit is gonna happen between the two
I've seen maybe 2 episode and even I think that is fucking despicable.
That is just inexcusable on Disney's part. The season premier had a fucking channel record for most viewers, who in the right mind wouldn't renew it?
>Her full redemption will probably include her demise.
NAh, she's gonna return to her homeplanet "because they need her more there"
And amethyst will cry because everyone she has ever loved has eventually left her.
And then she will eat a lot, sleep a lot, and forget while masturbating using a diamond tipped drill she stole from Greg.
And then every time she does her sonic ball attack thingie the sound of her cooch will make a whistling noise as the air rushes over its entrance.
She admires Amethyst because she's a soldier gem and a "real" gem.
That means Peridot is a fucking racist
and I'm okay with that
Apparently they really wanted to renew it and tried to convince Hirsch to continue it, but he wanted to end the show after two seasons. I'm kind of happy about that. I don't want it to go into zombie mode.
Yeah, it's best to let the show have it's full story and end.
Maybe if Disney wants to rape it's corpse after the fact they could do some kind of spinoff set after the summer, but for now, I think the ending is shaping up to be all it should be.
Peridot is "racist", but when you think about it, there are all of 4 gem in her entire species that dont think that way.
Most of her redemption so far has been her accepting the new ideologies of the crystal gems. Amethyst supposed status may have been her initial attraction, but saying that that's the only reason is undermining her character development.
It's also interesting to note that while she likes Amethyst, yet in her few scenes with Jasper, another quartz, she was at odds with her.
Another thing Peridot clearly liked about Amethyst aside from her status was that she laughed at Peri's "jokes."
How did /co/ react when Peridot casually told Amethyst "By the way you're the last of your kind you fucking test tube Gem. You were suppose to be a Quartz."
Does this mean Amethyst is going to be the one to stop Yellow Diamond?
Oh for fuck sakes Rebecca get your shit together just make Amethyst the slow useless one. Everyone knows Pearl is too emotionally unstable and Garnet is the only thing keeping this team together and that is strictly because Sapphire is incredibly patient.
I can picture Connie actually suggesting they do it together, fight Yellow Diamond, but Steven will refuse risking her getting hurt, and instead go in and talk YD down. He'll walk up to her, slowly deflecting blasts from some sort of laser beam (or alternatively deflecting blows from a weapon) as he tries to convince her to stop whatever it is she's doing.
and then when she tires out, he'll finally get right up against her. She'll have a terrified look on her face, she can't stop this monstrosity no matter what she throws at it. Then Steven will form his bubble around the two of them, and for a moment he'll look like Rose in a flash of light, Yellow Diamond is stunned as she prepares for the worst. and then Steven grabs hold of her and hugs her.
"We can all be a family again."
Jasper begrudging redemption when.
I don't think Amethyst was supposed to be THAT strong, she was still to be a mass produce soldier. If she had a higher rank that's only because the others are the lowest of the low. Pearls are servants and Ruby/Sapphire are clearly peons. Lapis probably outrank them all.
Even a complete Amethyst would be nothing compare to Yellow Diamond. Only Rose/Steven can take on her.
The Crystal Gems have been fighting rogue gem monsters for thousands of years. And unless they kept popping up at a regular rate - rather than gradually decreasing because they were capturing them all - they have defeated thousands upon thousands of them.
So they are badasses. Serious badasses. I mean, Pearl is meant to be an ornament - a pretty slave. But every time someone says 'just a pearl' I think of that one moment in 'Coach Steven' where she kicks a flying rock that weight at least a ton like it's a cardboard box. And she's the weak one!
Meanwhile, Peridot is weaker than Steven.
>Ruby/Sapphire are clearly peons
Improbable. Everything Peridot said about Garnet referred to her being an unwarranted fusion, not of her components being of a low caste... which would be inconsistent anyway, since sapphire and ruby are the most 'noble' gemstones after diamond, and together with emerald.
>get sent on obviously secret mission to work on unforgivable megaweapon
>as soon as shit goes sour hook up the biggest broadcaster in the quadrant to repeat an unencrypted message begging for help and talking about the cluster
>message cycles on and off for like a week
Yellow Diamond is going to be so fucking pissed at Peridot the little green goblin won't ever get to say "Hi" before being shattered
...What do you base that notion on?
>She probably never really fought
She was literally created for fighting and she loves doing it. I don't believe for one second Rose would have kept her home rather than teaching her to be a member of the team. She would know: she was a Quartz, too.
Never mind the message: the moment her own life was in danger, she was like "Okay, we need to stop this". After all the work she knew went into it!
What I am wondering about is: why didn't she build a ship? She only needed to get off-world. Mars or even the Moon would have been far enough. But she didn't even try. And yet she flew a spaceship, she was its engineer, she managed to reactive a piece of junk that was AT LEAST 60 centuries old, she whipped up a robot more advanced than anything built on Earth in a few hours - and Pearl managed to build a spaceship, and god love Pearl, but I don't think she is a better engineer than the angry little slice of pie.
Could it be that all of this is a long game on her part?
Or is she genuinely this dumb/naive?
>Homeworld isn't part of some United Galaxies.
...We don't know that. It's entirely possible that they are. The USA, China, Russia and Israel are members of the United Nations but they mostly do whatever the fuck they feel like.
...Why would Gemworld WANT a living weapon larger than Earth? I once jokingly suggested the male, metal counterparts and enemies of the Gems are the Decepticons, but why else would you need a planet-sized soldier than to face another such warrior?
...In any case they must have some means to control it.
>Rose is a Quartz
>Jasper and Amethyst can roll like sonic
SO wait can Rose roll like sonic
Dont be so quick on that, anon, you know the crew loves to hint at shit like this. If they were gonna imply something like controlled planets or systems, this is how they'd do it.
The term "Homeworld" is probably the biggest hurdle in the theory though. "Homeworld" is very singular and implies a first planet or an origin. Any further speculation from that point all seems a bit far fetched. But hey, I haven't read a script, so who knows.
Season 3 intro will definitely have Peridot there, like, cuddling up to Amethyst at the end bit with the beach or something. She'll be like Connie; she won't sing but she'll be present.
>People thought Greg was going to die in the S1 finale
DON'T PRONOUNCE THE T THE T IS SILENT DON'T PRONOUNCE IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
You've watched cartoons with worse art. You don't even notice it after a bit. If you want to watch it just watch it.
This drink looks like Peridot's "lady blood"
Peridot is the best gem,why Jewbecca is going to make her date Amethyst? Why?
> and never have a say on he's doing.
This would happen more often if directors and writers had some real balls and actually put their own funding into the project. You know why Stars Wars The Clone Wars had someone fucking decapitate four people on screen, not robots but real people? Why it looked so damn good for a TV CGI production?
Because for all his faults, George Lucas put his motherfucking money where his mouth was and said "I'll put my money into this, you just show it." And the executives just backed the fuck off when he said he wanted to show someone get stabbed through the heart on screen in full view, because MONEY.
We don't need executives with balls, we need directors who are willing to put themselves on the line more than just a name in the credits.
Actually, most times producers only procure funding from investors, they don't put their own funding in the project.
They shop scripts or pitches around to studios who put the funds in the thing to get it going, they don't do it themselves most times. There are exceptions, of course, but by far the norm is to get funds from several other outside sources.
>why didn't she build a ship?
Pearl has been on Earth for 5000+ years and never even considered it until Steven and Greg brought it up.
Gems in general just seem to have a really difficult time thinking creatively outside the box. Which is understandable, given that they aren't designed for it.
Presumably this is more a problem with those gems who are not made for any creative thinking, there are probably castes that are like a more science oriented Peridot to develop new technologies. I'd imagine that they would have to be reasonably far up the totem pole so their input can be considered legitimate. Probably the higher up in the caste system you go the more used to creative thinking a gem would be.
unfortunately most directors don't have scrooge mcduck-level personal funds to invest in their own projects, or this would be reasonably sound. the production costs of even a television show are well outside the personal means of a single human unless they are like lucas and have more money than god.
Not saying I disagree with the principle of it or anything but at what point during the writing of this post did you realize the thing you're talking about hasn't actually happened?
This hiatus is unbearable. I've lost the will to live.
Could you please stop with that?
Peridot a best
Because threads like pic related are just wonderful?
Nah, it's just one rabid shitposter who shows up every now and then to completely detail the thread so mods 404 it
A lot of the posts are exactly the minute cooldown timer apart, it's kind of sad
Except Rose wasn't fat. She had the same build as Jasper -that is, she was built like a fucking linebacker.
Amethyst looks like a fat blob because she was squished up against the sides of her whole for a majority of her development cycle. So she's got most of the mass of a regular Amethyst, but not the correct frame to spread it over.
Then you haven't had a good pork chop. Most people cook the shit out of pork out of fear of parasites but modern factory pork is as safe as beef. I like a chop medium-well while tenderloin is best medium-rare to medium.
Judging by Lapis' clothes, she doesn't seem like a gem designed for fighting like Quartzes, but her dress isn't exactly fancy either. If I had to guess what Lapis is for, I'd say it's for terraforming with water. The Water Temple in Cheeseburger Backpack looks like something she could have pulled off, and when the water collapsed it looked similar to the scene at the end of Ocean Gem.
Shut your mouth, Jasper is 100% hot, amazon woman
Picture of Rose pre-pregnancy for reference.
Is she fat? Yay or nay?
>implying you wouldn't want some of that hot cheeto ass if you had the chance
I thought this, too. Gems are basically custom-made drones anyway, it wouldn't be any big deal to make a class of Gems specifically to operate on worlds with water.
In fact, depending on how much -if any- water a Kindergarten requires to operate, Gems like Lapis might be explicitly required.
She has fatty arm, usually that's how you can tell if someone is obese.
However she's decently thin in >>77621724, kind of changes between scenes.
Here's Jasper's body in comparison. I'm not neither of you posters but I like providing pictures senpaitachi.
No, she's not fat.
I mean, she's not a fucking bean pole like Pearl but she's not fat. She really is built like someone took a Jasper and buffed down all the sharp edges to make everything smooth and curved.
Hey, just like a real rose quartz!
Look at her fingers. She'd need a dialing wand to use a phone. They're probably all longer and thicker than Greg's dick.
pathetic tbqh. Jasper is the perfect woman
not even bait, you jasperfags are delusional as fuck
I wonder what Lapis meant when she said she never believed in Earth, considering she probably was responsible for building gem structures on it. I get the feeling she got caught between the two factions when the war started and ended with a terrible fate.
>Not as fascinating a character as Pearl, though
Yes, because a character whose sole traits are her insecurity and obsession towards a dead gem is certainly the pinnicle of storytelling.
What if you use these two pictures though? This show is very inconsistent with their models.
Anyone see a similarity?
I kinda do, Rose looks a bit fat at first glance because of the dress but it's below the waist, she'd have a fucking massive ass if it was actually fat
Jasper's arms are more muscley though, i'll give you that.
you literally took the worst, thickest looking picture of Jasper and the thinnest looking picture of Rose. I'm not even arguing anything but fucking kek, Jasper looks dumb as fuck there
>Pearl beat up Suglite
>Jasper can't beat Garnet
you're joking right m8?
If you think Pearl "beat up" Suglite then I don't think you even watched the show. More like Pearl outsmarted her and made her beat up herself.
If Suglite's goal was to kill Pearl with 100% of her focus she'd be ded kiddo
And I'll reserve judgement until I see a 1v1 fight between Garnet and Jasper that actually comes to an end.
>I'll reserve judgement until I see a 1v1 fight between Garnet and Jasper that actually comes to an end.
>implying Garnet wasn't winning that shit by herself until she electrocuted Jasper
Jasperfags are REALLY delusional i see
Garnet was getting the shit kicked out of her f a m. She wasn't getting off too many hits until she broke her helmet and threw her into the battery. Before that Jasper even threw Garnet through 5 floors.
It's fair to think that Garnet would have won, but to completely write off Jasper winning is ridiculous.
Not to mention Jasper fell from the fucking sky in a burning spaceship (whereas Garnet had Steven's shield). If she hadn't they still would've been fighting. Jasper definitely had the edge.
>Garnet was getting the shit kicked out of her f a m. She wasn't getting off too many hits until she broke her helmet and threw her into the battery. Before that Jasper even threw Garnet through 5 floors.
Except that's fucking wrong
Jasper only could hurt Garnet twice, one time with the spindash attack and other time punching her in the face, the rest of the fight is either Garnet dodging her attacks or attacking her
And no i'm not writting off Jasper's victory, she put up a good fight but it's pretty obvious who the winner is.
Oh c'mon, there's no argument for why Garnet won the fight. Besides the use of the tired showtune trope, that is.
I think Garnet was winning the fight because at the end of the fight Garnet won and Jasper lost.
>Jasperfags buttblasted because their waifu didn't win a fight where she was being all aggro against an opponent smarter than her.
Kek, get fucked, betas.
I just watched the fight over.
They both dodge each other's attacks in the first portion. Then Garnet kicks the destabilizer out of her hands and snaps it.
Later, Garnet gets off a face punch. Following that Jasper grabs Garnet's hand and throws her across the room leaving a dent in the wall.
Garnet then punches Jasper into the glass and then Jasper sonic's her to the generator room. Garnet is visibly worn at this point (her visor broken) and she is scarred. Jasper and her dodge a bit and then Jasper hits her in the face again, causing Garnet to hit the wall. Garnet then smashes Jasper's helmet by punching both sides of her face.
Jasper then tries to sanic her again, where Garnet grabs her and throws her into the generator.
BEFORE THIS POINT Jasper is not worn at all, where as Garnet is. If the generator hadn't been there, Jasper would have rebounded and proceeded to beat down Garnet.
Idk why everyone calls out Garnet's ability to dodge when Jasper dodges JUST as many hits.
TLDR: Jasper would have won a prolonged fight and yes I am autistic.
The only reason Pearl beat Suglite and Garnet beat Jasper is that the plot needed them to. Being crystal gems and all.
It's literally the only reason why.
It's pretty clear what the writers were going for: Garnet's psyching Jasper out so she'll fight sloppy and she takes advantage at the right time. She's willing to take a few hits, but she doesn't stop trying to get under Jasper's skin and it works.
>implying what I said isn't true
thanks for the (you) I guess f a m. Doesn't change the fact that Jasper would win in ANY other scenario.
i guess Garnet's dodging attacks is more noticeable considering she's like dancing while doing it
Anyways i was too lazy to actually re-watch the fight so yeah you've got a point there.
Plot armor is just a cheap trick to make weak characters strong.
It doesn't matter because all Garnet was doing was keeping Jasper occupied while the others took over the ship.
They still would have crashed. Garnet probably would have been fine without Steven's bubble just as Jasper and Lapis were. It would not have made any difference.
Garnet would have just figured out some other place to throw Jasper, this isn't Smash Bros where there's a Final Destination or some shit, this is a giant warrior fighting a slightly smaller warrior with a supercomputer in her brain.
I don't think Garnet actually used her vision in the fight. It was a pretty obvious thing to do, throw your opponent into the giant electric battery. It's not like she used it to dodge punches or avoid her sanic form.
That doesn't have to do with anything? We're talking about a 1v1 between Jasper and Garnet where there isn't a generator or a crashing ship. Could you explain a little bit if I didn't understand your comment correctly?
Just appreciate her for her body.
>people are discussing the show and the way possible characters turn out in the future
>waaahh lets discuss tired topics that have already been confirmed
To be honest family, the fight was pretty even, wasn't it? Trading blows, fucking eachother up (Getting decombobulated vs. getting bitchtackled through several floors.) and dodging the majority of the time.
Technically Garnet won, yeah. Technically it was a draw as well, because Lapis went Ripper and Martyr'd herself along with the angry dorito woman.
>It was a pretty obvious thing to do, throw your opponent into the giant electric battery.
Leading the fight into the place that happened to have a giant electric battery isn't as immediately obvious.
In terms of quality
Just like the actual show
But Jasper wasn't given the chance to finish the fight. And before the point she got fuked up, Jasper had the advantage.
If they actually fought in another setting 1v1, Garnet would put up a fair fight but she wouldn't win. Jasper wouldn't come out unscarred though.
>leading the fight into the giant battery
That's a pretty interesting thought but I HIGHLY doubt that actually happened.
Pearl just looks awful in this set. I hate Funko figures as a rule but they sometimes look okay when the character actually comes close to their arbitrarily freakish proportions. Amethyst and Steven look fine because they both actually are short and wide. Even Garnet looks okay because her hair really is a big rounded cube.
But Pearl's supposed to be tall with a round head. Not this abominable nightmare.
Post Pearlmethyst to get us through the hiatus
Stockholm syndrome must've kicked in by now. Maybe Jasper will learn to respect Lapis' tactic and strength.
no one deserves the punishment of being in a relationship with pearl
I really hope we get a flashback episode of when the CG first find Amethyst.
It's joke about how all pictures of women eating salad have them laughing.
You don't like salad?
That is certainly specific.