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Where were you when bubbeline become canon

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Where were you when bubbeline become canon
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>>77518670
wasn't this canon like 4 fucking years ago

did I just wake up from a coma
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I don't care. They changed Marceline so much, she's basically a different character now. And honestly I kinda dislike her now and don't want her with PB.
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>canon
Wait, what happened?
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>Finn gets keked to death
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>>77518873
Changed from one dimensional retarded princess scientist to morally gray tyrannical monarch of a kingdom she genetically engineered.
K, you are allowed to have opinions, but you are wrong.
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>>77518670
So basically adventure time lost all it's fan base and are trying to yuri pander to get it back right?
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>>77519066
he was talking about Marceline not PB
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>>77519066
They said Marceline, not PB.
I never particularly liked Marceline either. Is it just because her early episodes had a femdom vibe and people like that?
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>>77518670

I blame Korra.
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I wonder how much the old /co/ would explode if they saw this mini series and the amount of yuri teasing they stuffed there
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I haven't watched any of the Stakes eipsodes.
Will I miss anything if I skip them? I don't really care about Marceline as a character and I can't stand Olivia Olson's voice.
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>>77519114
Seconding this, I'm too tired of getting disappointed by AT to try it out myself.
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THEY RIPPED OFF THIS FANFIC:

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9649816/1/Depression

SUE THEIR FUCKING ASSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>77519066
She was already a morally gray tyrannical ruler when she was a dumb one note science princess. The writers just made her boring when they dropped the fun mad scientist angle.
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>>77519134
I like when she's acting like a mad scientist or despotic ruler. She's boring as fuark when acting like teenage girl model 1A like she has been in the latest episodes.
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>>77519128
>>77519114
you'll miss out on understanding various amounts of shitposting, you'll be getting your info third hand from shitposters.
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>>77518670
Is it me or is the show more about these stronk need no man progressive girls, than Finn?
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>>77519114
>>77519128
It depends, if you wanted to be exactly like season 1-2 then dont watch it but if you thought season 6 was a disaster then this one is a big improvement and feels more like season 4 and 5
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>>77519154
If by this show, you mean Stakes, then yes.
If by this show, you mean Adventure Time, then no. There's been tons of stuff focusing on Finn and it all sucked. Need I remind you of the comet bullshit?
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>>77519162
I think season 4 and 5 are mostly ok, but I really don't give a shit about Marceline. To me, she's one of the least interesting characters in the show. Rebellious teenage girl with troubled past. Got it.
Do we learn anything about the other characters?
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>>77519154
>miniseries about Marceline
>complaining that it's about her more than Finn

Come on, anon.
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I want to cum inside Princess Bubblegum.
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>>77518670
I getting fuckong of all these /co/ lesbians, both in comics and in cartoons.
Korra was bad and there was literally not set up for the fucking yuri end, the only reason it happend was that people hated KorraMako so much for what they did to Asami.
Marvel has like not one but TWO Proud Lesbian PoC(TM) Captain Americas.
And now suddenly, DC needs to make a big fuss whenever they make a character bisexual.
I honestly thought that with each subsequent lesbian, the previous ones and any possible new one would get devalued, like there was a bubble on the progessive coin. But DC and Marvel still seem to think that adding a two hot chicks making out on their books is the comic equivalent of a Selma March or something.

Do they honestly think I going to go out of my way to buy a book for the mear CHANCE that I might see two girls going at it when there are a metric fuck ton of lesbian erotica and/or romance stories that come from Japan every year? Some of them actually wroten by out of the closet lesbians.

And of course, gay man get shafted.
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>>77519202
>And of course, gay man get shafted.

Actually, they're okay with that.
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>>77519202
Thank you.
Half the time it just feels exploitative and it doesn't feel like we've moved on beyond pic related.
The lesbian couples in Sandman were some of the most realistic and believable I've seen and that came out like 25 years ago.
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>>77519220
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>>77519131
You bastard!! you got me!
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>>77519131
thanks anon that was good
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>>77518670
What the hell happened?
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Dropped. AT is dead to me.
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>>77519114
It's a pretty good miniseries.
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>>77519223
It helps that Gaiman is an actual lesbian though.
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Can someone actually explain what happened for those that stopped watching this shit
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>>77519223
>Half the time it just feels exploitative and it doesn't feel like we've moved on beyond pic related.
>The lesbian couples in Sandman were some of the most realistic and believable I've seen and that came out like 25 years ago.
What is it that you want, then? Also, you sound like a Tumblrina.
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>>77519310
Nothing.
Especially if you don't even watch it, technically nothing really happened, OP's talking out the ass cause he can.
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>>77519168
Is it so much to ask for Finn-centric episodes that aren't retarded? The comet and "solution" to the dad the human arc were so fucking terrible, but I really like Finn and Jake. Episodes where they just pal around and solve problems are the best.
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>>77519334
I wish we got more of that too.
Just them together, doing is stuff, is great.
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>>77519329
Nothing?
i think they pushed this shit as far as they could without saying it literally
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>>77519365
Didn't they outright show it with Marceline's dream? Atleast from her side it seemed pretty obvious.
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>>77519365
so its just like before, nothing changed
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>>77519334
>Is it so much to ask for Finn-centric episodes that aren't retarded?
Yes because it seems like any mention of certain characters or callback to any episode people hated makes people throw out the whole episode.
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>>77519373
So what happened? Because this being the internet, perfectly platonic relationships can't exist so what actually happened?
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>>77519417
Marceline dreamed of growing old next to PB and her kissing her in a not really platonic way.
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>>77519428
Oh okay then that's different
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>>77519181
Nah, the miniseries was pretty Marceline centric.
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>>77519377
It was never so obvious
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>>77519181
It's about Marceline but it goes into her past (not like the Ice King ones) and explains how she got her powers, why she's a vampire etc.

It's the only time you'll have AT tease something then do it the NEXT episode too.
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What is with the weird semi-mystical, only half-explained stuff?
I know adventure time has never really explained anything fully. That's part of what makes it fun.
But the shit with the comet and oorgalorg at the end of the last one, and the weird shit Marceline does to the dank cloud in the finale of Stakes just leaves a little too much to question for my tastes.
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>>77519455
>I know adventure time has never really explained anything fully. That's part of what makes it fun.
you said it yourself
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>>77519428
Growing old? Aren't they both imortal?
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>>77519481
PB cures Marceline's vampirism in Stakes so she isn't inmortal anymore.
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>>77518873

This, only I never liked Marcy. PB is a fun character who is only dragged down by romantic entanglements (Autism Time is a fun show that is only dragged down by romantic entanglements.)

>>77519303

kek

I still can't believe he married Amanda Palmer. I know you're supposed to separate the author from their works, but I honestly think less of him/his talent now.
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>>77519500
I have no idea who Amanda Palmer is, only that people hate her. What has she done?
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>>77519486
Why would she want that?
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>>77518670
wait this is real?... I might actually quit over this. I'm really sick of all these shows being so god damn gay to be progressive. if you wanna be gay in your own home fine i dont give a shit, but stop forcing this shit into media to try and make it normal!
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Where can you get the leaked episodes?
Also why is CN leaking so hard they should be wearing Depends?
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>>77518670
Oh great another show with lesbians.How many there are now?5?

Soon every main female character will have to be lesbian to get some attetion.
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>>77519202
>PoC
As a minority this fucking word pisses me off to no end. How many fucking words do we have to use to differentiate ourselves when instead we should bring ourselves closer together not further apart.
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>>77519516
She got tired of being a vampire.
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>>77519510

The TL;DR of it is that she sells herself as this starving artist/"one of you" to the types of people who are into her performances and uses this image to justify shit like crowdsourcing talent for her shows ("oh you'll be paid in EXPOSURE") and couch hopping in fans' homes to seem more authentic when in fact she is independently well off and ALSO married to somebody as successful as Gaiman.

And this would be tolerable if she had a lick of self-awareness about it, which she absolutely does not.

It just burns double hard that in the literal sea of pussy Gaiman could have had, he fishes this turd out of it.
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>>77519561
We should just call ourselves buttfriends

As in my penis in your anus

How about it, sailor?
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>>77519131
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>>77519555

>tfw you're tired of lesbians because it's giving you the impression that you can't be a strong/cool woman who don't need no man without also wanting to munch carpet

I mean, I LIKE SU, but if what you said starts to trend too hard I'm going to get butthurt. What we need is more women who just plain ol' don't have love interests.
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>>77519524
but lesbians are cute, whats wrong with you?
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>>77519614
Agreed. I thought that was where they were going with PB, and it would have made me happy.
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>>77519223
The trans dude/chick as well.

Sandman actually dealt with the psychoses and insecurities common in marginalized groups of folks.

>>77519303
No, he's a gayman.
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>>77519614
I remember requesting that image years ago.

Man them's were the times.
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I'm just pissed cause they're so afraid to do gay guys still

Where is my equal opportunity faggotry?
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>>77519671
>the psychoses and insecurities common in marginalized groups of folks.
Okay, that does it. Back to the frat with the rest of the PC Bros.
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>>77519866
I'm wondering if they're mainly making more and more women into lesbians to attract more demographics.

Men like lesbians.
Some women like lesbians.
The LGBT like lesbians.

What's there to lose by appealing to peoples' primal desires?
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>>77519576
>It just burns double hard that in the literal sea of pussy Gaiman could have had, he fishes this turd out of it.

Well, he's also got Stoya on the side so he has that going for him.
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>>77518670
>implying it is now
go die under a rock nigger
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>>77519114
>>77519128
Most people really enjoyed the miniseries a lot, give them a shot. The E4 song is a bit shitty and you could consider the finale a somewhat underwhelming, but otherwise 8/10
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>>77519614
Well the description does say "don't need no man", and everybody hates asexuals, so what's left?
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>>77519516
She doesn't want to be emo anymore
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>>77519614
I'm working on a book kinda like that. She has one or two, but the main focus is way off that.

Would be nice seeing a girl kick ass without all that "see I'm a gurrrrrl and I can kick ass too" shit drives me up the fucking wall.
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>>77519614
>>77520155
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>>77519614
This is literally EXACTLY what I thought about Korra.
I wouldn't care if Asami or any other character in the show was a lesbian, but I took offense in Korra because she's an atlethic, hothead, toned girl prone to action because of her anger and impatience instead of something like motherly instincts...
And then they made her a lesbian (or bisexual, whatever). Way to go, guys. Straight girls can't be strong and cool.
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>>77520182
Bless Furiosa, jeez. No romantic interest or feelings through the movie, just her being badass. I hate her fans though.
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>>77520045
>being that much in denial
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>>77519866
>I'm just pissed cause they're so afraid to do gay guys still
Honestly, the world is not even prepared. Lesbians have appeal with guys and women alike, but gay guys are still seen as icky.
Can't blame them, I'm sorry. Even when I have gay friends who are pretty cool, seeing them kiss and being romantic with each other feels lil bit gross
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>>77519866
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx4UEdKHBcs
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>>77520220
I'm a Bubbline shipper, though. The thing is, we had some new >implying moments but again no real thing.
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>>77520303
>I'm a Bubbline shipper, though.
Literally the cancer that killed AT.
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>>77520303
>>77520338

whats a shipper
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>>77520182
Yeah, kinda like that. Scratch what I said though, only has the one brief love interest, the first one is off screen.
>>77520210
Nah she had em, she just wasn't a woman about it, it was more realistic dealing completely in the subtleties of the performance. . No "MUH FEELINGS MAXXXXX!!!!1!" she kinda understood Max wouldn't stay.
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>>77520341
Someone who obsesses over fictional mostly non-canon relationships in media.
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>>77520303
Well there where no direct kissing or anything but they not together anymore other then that it was overall very obvious that the gay for each other
Life is strange actually had less yuri teasing then this and thats saying something
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>>77520366
I meant not romantic feelings, not just feelings in general.
A character is driven by feelings obviously.
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Someone tell me what happened I cant be bothered with watching after seeing you guys trash the show here
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>>77520373
like...as a hobby?

That's strange
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>>77520338
>implying I'm part of those fuckers who constantly talk about it and destroy the fandom

>>77520380
I don't know m8, the only thing where I got that happening feel was the scene with old Marcy. And then again, I've already seen old people who are friends with younger ones getting this kind of scene or treatment. I honestly felt like it was more of a real long lasting friendship, and that's what I saw during the whole miniseries and also Varmints.
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>>77520390
SPIKE DIES
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>>77520390
You should take a look at the last 3 Stakes threads m8, the overwhelming majority loved the series. It's just that after every episode at this precise time a handful of dipshits samefag to make you think that.
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>>77520382
Well, it seemed clear she has some romantic interest in him. They were very similar people afterall, plus he saved her life. Thing is they never really acted on it because Max has no capacity for it, and she had more important shit to do. Most of it comes to a head when she gets almost killed, Max shows more concern than he ought have. She kinda thought he'd hang around at the end when the job got finished, but understood that he had to leave.

It was a fleeting thing at best, but something they neve r had to talk about.
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>>77520394
More like as a form of life.
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>>77520440
You are just shipper filth
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I don't give a shit if you like gum or vamp, but watch stakes for FINN & JAKE.
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>>77520446
>>77520460
>>77520488
Do you not know how to read subtext or human emotion?
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>>77520528
no
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>>77520528
Retard, please go away.
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>>77520522
Honestly, it's their best use in forever.
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>>77520540
explain how it's retarded.
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>>77520557
Because you can't distinguish between the fanfiction in your head and the actual context in the movie.
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>>77520550
i really loved Jake in this, how mad he got at Marceline or how afraid he was of the vampires
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>>77520574
But that's wrong. Max has visible concern in his eyes when she's close to death, wouldn't have that if he didn't develop some sort of feelings. When he leaves, she's visibly upset for a moment, then a sort of relieved look comes across her face. It's a thing that builds up slowly, and dissipates at the end. There's no need to have every chaarcter say what they feel in a visual medium.

This is also George miller, in the film certain small things paint bigger pictures and help establish things.
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>>77520608
deep
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>>77520608
this is not a Mad Max thread
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>>77520196
As a society, we've grown too comfortable with the idea that "tomboys = lesbians" (or some other indecipherable Tumblr-level condition), and its mirror opposite (ie. that feminine girls can't be lesbians).
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>>77520440
There's this thing called friendship. People who go through hardships together tend to develop it. War buddies care for each other deeply, though (usually) aren't looking to buttfuck each other

People can just be friends anon.
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>>77520635
why is too much people obsessed with shipping?

Didn't they get human can develop feelings for friends w/o driving to romantic interest?
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>>77519131
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>>77519310
Marceline loses her vamp stuff because she got sick of being burned by the sun. The gunk pumped out o f her brings back the vampires that she killed to get her superpowers because apparently you don't gget the whle package witha bite.

She goes around killing said vamps to get her power back and stop the vamp king without becoming a vamp again, and we get a little insight to her past after simon.

Vamp king tells her to stop cause he doesn't want to be a vam no more, shit goes wrong and his essence wrecks shit. Marcy stops it, and everything goes back to status quo, but chaarcter emotions chancge.

Also there's a bit of a subplot with bp's feelings and relationship with marcy with some implied feelings for each other at the end. Mostly just reminiscing and bp beating her self up.

Also the king of oo gets melted.
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>>77520635
War buddies might not be gay for each other, can be a bit different when it's a guy and a girl. Much different in an apocolyptic wasteland. Besides, Hoult started growing on him about as much, and he didn't get nearly as emotional when he kicked it.

I don't feel like he'd give that much of a shit if it was just friends. He also tends to bail when he starts to get too attached to anything, he's better off on his own. I don't think she'd have as much of a pained expression at first if there wasn't anything there, but I'd say the relief comes in because they really didn't know each other that much and that's what he chose.
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>>77520721
>men and women can't feel things for each other without wanting to fuck
This is why we can't have nice things
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>>77520721
I agree that romantic feelings between max and Furiosa were implied but it's not 100% canon non-refutable.
I prefer to see it as platonic friendship because I think it's a much more interesting angle than derp love saves the day as usual
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What exactly is pic related from? I haven't been keeping up with Adventure Time lately and it doesn't look familiar. Reverse image searching didn't show many results for me.
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>>77518940
Just the usual teasing from the writers with some little blushing scenes and shit like that but for some reason now people is taking it as a 100% confirmation that this shit is canon

At least they should have the fucking balls of making them kiss or say that they are in a relationship instead of this lame teasing all the time and this is coming from a person that fucking hates bubline
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>>77519134
this jesus christ

PB been flanderized hardcore because fun is bad.
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Was Rebecca Sugar really the one responsible for the escalation of bubbline? Like I'm sure there was always tumblr but which writer is to blame for teasing a lesbian ship in a weird children's cartoon?
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>>77519168
Because the show's not about him and the writers don't care about his arcs. They do something resembling character work on him only out of obligation at this point. If the show was truly about him, he could learn and grow.
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>>77521042
ako and jesse mostly
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>>77521073
No it was Sugar. What Was Missing.
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>>77521084
He was asking who's mostly to blame for teasing the ship
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>>77519455
it's easy to write ambiguity plus it makes AV Club spooge in their pants
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>>77521084
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>77521109
Nobody on the staff really did that? They just picked up on the popularity of the ship and put it in the damn show because they are spineless slugs.
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Olivia Olson looks much better in video than in picture, actually.
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>>77521126
It's not shoehorned in SU at least. The whole show revolves around romance/love and the characters are all girls so what the fuck do you want?
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>>77521126
But it's such lowbrow homosexual pandering.

A bit of blushing and handholding and suddenly someone is 100% gay? Why do people go nuts over this?

It really is like South Park said Gayness is basically free money
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>>77520182

>kidnap six beautiful men hating women to run away to a matriarchal paradise where men are also hated

uhhh
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>>77521134
>spineless slugs
Alright, I'm sorry, but how is that spineless and making them slugs?
The crew of AT has always been in touch with the fanbase, them being fans of the very thing they worked on, if we do say that the push of the relationship between Marceline and PB is because of them wanting to have some fun with the fanbase, how does that make them spineless?
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>>77520410

Aw what the fuck man I was just watching cowboy bebop for the first time fuck you spike is fine
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>>77521159
>>77521179
There has never been a single lesbian ship that has enhanced a character or show. Blushing and handholding in Korra and AT were like suicide bombs for every character involved and that's not likely to change until creators realize that shippers are the vast minority of their fanbase and most shows can survive without the tumblr audience.
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>>77521179
Or maybe they just genuinely like their relationship and wanted to develop it? They had a lot of really nice moments this miniseries, it was honestly pretty well done

>>77521134
the majority of episodes with pb/marcy interaction were written by ako and jesse, the shippiest one being sky witch
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CÚCKVENTURE TIME


C'MON GRAB YOUR COCK

WE'LL JERK IT TO MANY

DIFFERENT CÚCKS

WITH JAKE THE BUCK

AND FINN THE CÚCK

THE SEXUAL HUMILIATION WILL NEVER END

IT'S CÚCKVENTURE TIME!
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>>77518789
it was never canon, fans are just a bunch of faggots who pair everything
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So where these final two parts at?
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>>77521197
How the heck was the handholding "like suicide bombs" for Korra and Asami when it happened in literally the last minute? It did not enhance the show because it wasn't even a part of the show
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>>77521197
but i think it fits the characters, there is actuall chemistry between Pb and Marcie, its nice to see them hanging around and interacting.
Also girls blushing are cute, CUTE
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>>77521126
I still don't understand why people would call rose gay. lets take the fact she's a agender space rock out of the equation, and she still took the murdercock. Probably more than a few times.
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>>77521216
>Or maybe they just genuinely like their relationship and wanted to develop it?
I don't know why they would genuinely care about such a stiff, obviously-no-chemistry relationship. Makes more sense as pandering.
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>>77521226
As always, CN confirmed years ago they're not in a relationship.
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>>77521240
>How the heck was the handholding "like suicide bombs" for Korra and Asami when it happened in literally the last minute?
Because it ruined the fandom and any discussion about the show forever. Literally any Korra thread on /co/ as evidence.
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>>77521305
Steven Universe and Mission Hill
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>>77519866
No one wants to see gay dudes unless its played off as a joke. Usually everyone likes lesbians. Guys and women both think its hot/romantic. And beilieve two gay guys in love is hilarious/disgusting.
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>>77519101
Old /co/ would be naive and explode with praise and many faps
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>>But not everyone was happy with the Legend of Korra's finale. There were a few at Cartoon Network who felt the event was less than magical.

>According to the intern, who wishes to remain Anonymous, Adventure Time Storyboarder Jesse Moynihan bashed his head against the wall while screaming "NO! NOOO! NO THEY FUCKING BEAT US NOOOOOOO! THOSE HACKS DID DYKE PANDERING BEFORE US NOOOOOOOOO! FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUUUUUUCK!"

>Sources also confirm that "Steven Universe" creator Rebecca Sugar locked herself in the bathroom and tried committing suicide, because "Now no one is going to think my dumb rock aliens are actually gay."
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>>77521305
They are mutually exclusive states
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>>77521314
>good
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>>77521325
>"NO! NOOO! NO THEY FUCKING BEAT US NOOOOOOO! THOSE HACKS DID DYKE PANDERING BEFORE US NOOOOOOOOO! FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUUUUUUCK!"
Beautiful
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>>77521338
They're both good shows. Steven Universe is the best cartoon on air right now too.
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>>77521325
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>>77521325
I legitimately believe they were pissed Korra beat them to the punch.
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>>77520041
So, there's two degrees of separation between Gaiman's naughty bits and Charlie Sheen's naughty bits.
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>>77521262
>obviously-no-chemistry relationship
maybe if your talking about Sky Witch ep but in Varmints and stakes there is a lot of chemistry between them
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>>77521305
AT
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>>77521229
Have you watched ANY of the recent episodes??? They are pretty much confirming that they have/had feelings for each other. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe for a second that they will follow through with it 100% because PB is going to be with Finn by the end of the series. But it won't be genuine. It will just be a pity pairing the writers throw together just to satisfy Fubblefags. When we all know that she really is going to be cheating on him with Marceline any way.
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>>77521284
>Because it ruined the fandom and any discussion about the show forever.
Legend of Korra being a massive disappointed ruined any discussion about the show forever, Last minute Korrassami wasn't the cause but even more evidence of that.
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>>77521262
>no chemistry
Well aside from the mere potential of a pink bubbly nerd and a punk rocker vampire being together in immortality and all that, it's really cute how different PB is around Marcy for example. Maybe you're just not into girl/girl? Because I feel the same way about 90% of fictional hetero relationships even if they're well done
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>>77521366
I've always wanted to see what these guys are like day to day and not when they come to Cons. Are they like that all the time or are they similar to hate filled artist or some sort of combination of /pol/
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>go on /co/
>want to talk about how good Staked was
>talkback threads and Stakes threads already archived
>only thing I find is this shit full of trolls and dumb people
fuck you guys I want to talk about my new favourite one shot character VK
>>
Homosexual undertones and yuri pandering are powerful tools to the uninitated... but we ARE initiated, aren't we, Moynihan?
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>>77521385
>>>/u/ncultured swine
I bet you enjoy hibikek euphonium as well
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>>77521314
>Steven Universe
Pure tumblr shit from Sugar.
>Mission Hill
Ah yes the stable and idyllic relationship of Gus and Wally, who when described by their roommates spend all of their time either arguing or having really loud gay sex. Milestone for progressives right there.
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>>77521413
there'll be at least a dozen more threads family
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>>77521325
If they were butthurt it's their own damn fault, they waited years to get back to Bubbline. YEARS!
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>>77521408
Cool girl+Smart girl is fucking entry level lesbian shit and it's ridiculous how fans are willing to simplify both characters just to embrace these stereotypes.
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>>77521487
they're both tumblr shit desu
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>we finally get interesting episodes of Adventure Time again
>le shipping lesbian meme
Enough
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>>77521413
Just wait until the next talkback, or try going to /+co/. The latter is dead, but thusly less trolling, while doing the former lands you reactionary shitposting but you still have people to talk with,
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>>77521487
Mission Hill was hardly damaging to the gay community, the episode that actually dealt with the origin of Gus and Wally is actually one of the best of the series, I just don't see it as 'promoting' homosexuality because the characters were conceived of as gay stereotypes even if they were eventually used to tell a good story. SU is fucking autistic tumblr shit though, that's impossible to deny.
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>>77521511
but Bubbeline was a part of it
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>>77521511
But its not a meme. Its pretty much canon now. Writer's are only holding back by not having them kiss.
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>>77521577
please link me that alternative Stakes miniseries you've watched
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When are they gonna inflate Bubblegum?
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>>77521305
I hate to give points to this show but...Clarence.

The show doesn't shove in your face that Jeff has two moms.He only have two moms and that's it.Heck one of them even look like a man.

It's the polar opposite of Buddy G.
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>>77521620
How much proof do you need ?
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I come as a tourist from /r/adventuretime.

Y'all are pretty cynical here, huh?
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Was this so wrong? I mean it explained their relationship perfectly within the context of the show and helped explore the theme of loss, friendship and the trauma of growing up in a way that suited the show. Why throw it away so shippers don't have to work as hard on their fanfiction?
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>>77521620
>>77521577
Fuck that, rather link me the part 5/6.
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>>77521646
They don't need to, she's already inflated herself for years.
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>>77521677
I wish you were one of those tourists that get robbed and left in a ditch.
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>>77521350
You misspelled clarence
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>>77521620
>marceline dreams about growing old with PB
>PB blushes when marceline tells her about her dream
>PB holds her in her arms while she was poisoned(never done anything like this with Finn. She doesn't even like touching him)
Id post more, but just imagine that scene in Spongebob where he keeps trying to prove to Patrick that the clam shell baby shits in diapers too much by going HMMMM?!?! HMMMMM!?!? and peeling off walls.
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>>77521677
dont you have anything better to do then lurking /co/ ?
Go back to reddit
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>>77521676
As said before, the only scene that could pass as bubblinesque was the dream Marcy had. Even then, I know friendships between younger and older people that end like this when one is about to die. As for the rest, even those blushing arguments are bullshit. Have you ever seen teenage girls act together? They pretty much do exactly the same thing as Marcy and Bonnie, the sole difference between that the latter two are physically hundreds of years old, but act like they're twenty when they're hanging out together.

>>77521691
https://mega.nz/#fm/W5pWDZQY
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>>77521677
>>77521698
Too bad /co/ doesn't have any Gypsies...
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>>77521683
If by "explained it perfectly" you mean "added bullshit to Marcy's character that was never displayed in ANYTHING related to the show" then yeah it really did,

Walch has some neat ideas for fanfics but Marcy being Peter Pan is totally pulled from her ass.
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>>77521703
see >>77521726
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>>77521683
>walch's headcanons
And besides, how is any of that thrown away? It still works with what we've seen so far
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>>77521739
All of that shit about emotional isolation and the loss of childhood innocence? It doesn't make any sense if they were fucking and doesn't matter if they're now living together.
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>>77521726
It wants an account out of me. What's up with that?

Thanks for trying though
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>>77521698
How do I downvote stuff here?
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>>77521737
Ok but your wrong tho
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>>77521782
wut? Try this then, sorry m8
https://mega.nz/#!CpQxWZBL!10bhCDF-lWlvDnuaPFR8NeAVdqF0WtG_OwZ5Y7Sf_tI
https://mega.nz/#!zhpiBRYL!2ec__S5cFbl3DhpuVOd2S35adwAZSBAvIXxuosJ4BKI
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>>77521726
>oh hey, here's the relationship half of our audience is obsessed with wanting to be romantic
>let's throw in a bunch of blushing, just to show how great of pals they are. definitely not trying to imply anything more here!

I'm starting to think the "can't do the gay because banned in some countries" explanation is legit
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>>77521672
If anything Jeff's shittiness as a person is a denouncement of homosexuals, or at least their parenting
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>>77521809
Bubbline shippers, everyone
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>>77519087
Not people, but blue pill beta emasculated loser males.
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>>77521782
dl it from your browser fucking newfag
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>>77521818
Works like a charm now. Much love m8
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>>77521837
>not wanting to break the dom
whoa get a load of this faggot.
>>
Fuck you and your obsession for unexisting characters from a childrens cartoon.

Reality is the real deal. I want to hug Jmoyns.
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>>77521840
>implying that was the problem
Why are you so desperate to pretend people are new, famas? Bit worried people will figure you out?
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>>77521828
The argument indeed is legit, and if anything's holding them from doing Bubbline, it's this. Then again I really feel like many people here never leave their homes, seeing at how everyone goes full shipping because of simple blushing, and that happens fucking all the time between good female friends.

Also
>half of our audience
do I really have to explain what the definition of vocal minority is
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>>77519202
Tumblr hates gay men dude, if you want to appeal to Tumblr you need lesbians.
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>>77521828
>oh hey, here's the relationship half of our audience is obsessed with wanting to be romantic
"half of the audience" for AT weren't even born when it started airing. The rest are mostly stoners with a few shippers dominating online discussion.
>>
I miss when marcy was a troublemaking punk prankster and not a mopey indie lesbian
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>>77521918
>17 million Facebook likes
>half of the audience weren't born when it started airing
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>>77521946
>17 million
>AT has more likes than GoT
what the fuck
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Pb asked Marcie if she wants to live with her in castle.
I dont think you make a make a proposition like that to a friend unless they are homeless
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Anyway, for my 2¢:

I'm no bubbline shipper, but after Stakes I'm finally able to get behind it. It seems like a natural course for the show to take, given where it's been. Anyway it definitely feels more natural than Fubblegum at this point. Hell, it feels more natural than Fubblegum EVER felt.
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>>77521918
And CN writing staff tend to be very engaged with the online discussions, being fandom nerds themselves
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>>77521976
>I dont think you make a make a proposition like that to a friend unless they are homeless
that's literally a proposition I've witnessed in dozens of cartoons when I was younger
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>>77521924
DADDY
WHY DID YOU EAT MY FRIES
I BOUGHT THEM
AND THEY WERE MINE
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>>77522005
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>>77522002
Name 5.
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>>77521924
The asshole writers only did this to Marceline because they have no idea how to write a cool, rebellious teenage punk because they're a bunch of losers. So they had to transform her into a dull, shallow husk of her former self, also a lesbian because none of them can relate to any emotional relationship that wasn't pointlessly complicated and melodramatic.
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>>77522002
name one
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>>77521976
Mine did. If you have space, rooming with friends is generally better than living alone, especially for the introverted types that wouldn't see another human face for months unless forced to
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>>77522002
And I bet it happened after some big bad destroyed the characters village or some shit like that
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>>77522049
Valid. Though money and extreme introversion are problems that neither Marceline nor Peebs face, at all.
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>>77519131
Can't wait for this part.
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>>77522073
Marceline lives in a cave and writes songs about how lonely and sad she is. I don't think living alone is working out for her.
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>>77521830
>Because straight couples can't have kids with OCD.
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>>77522111
that's literally the main reason for Bonnie inviting her to live in the castle.
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>>77522134
They're obviously just homosexuals in denial
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>>77522020
Thid really is just a great image.
You know, with how Stakes ends, I'm surprised more people aren't happy about it, since it pretty much deals with moving past all that angst.
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>>77522141
or she wants that vamp to chew on her gum
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>>77522111
>>77522141
Yeah, that's what I was getting at.
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>>77522020
GLOB IS DEAAAAAAAAAAD!!!

AND ADVENTURE TIME KILLED HIM!
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>>77521818
3 and 4 please?
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>>77519202
to be fair, that was Neil Gaiman

you can't compare other writers with him
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>>77522287
https://mega.nz/#!vhpSwZAI!O1-IyxkDD3VrJQbhl1oV2Ywd4Q6Ex9gNxl0M8wFqmIg
https://mega.nz/#!2wIlETrT!G__KfAupAhcC_JdASybQpZlv2c2GsDr1_ln7alV8kyg
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>>77522073
>extreme introversion are problems that neither Marceline nor Peebs face, at all.
>Emo vampire literally singing about not having friends
>Dethroned monarch who pushed all her loyalist friends away
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>>77518670
not official canon, just fan fic headcanon

they cant have openly gays in a kids show
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>>77522419
I mean, both of them know Finn and Jake. I thought it was implied that Marcy got out to party a lot. And Peeb pretty clearly has a fanbase among the Candy peeps who miss her.

I don't know, neither is super extroverted, but I wouldn't say either of them were exactly Woody Allan types, either.
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>>77519049

>blocked by cb from fire princess
>blocked by marceline from pb

geez, what did finn do to deserve this?
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>>77521226
How did you do that?
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>>77522554
Nobody's entitled to someone else's love. I think he's handling it pretty maturely, which is fucking awesome. Shows how much he's grown as a character.
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>>77522580
Look at the U, he was so determined to say it that he used an accented one.
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>>77522599
oh i see it
pretty sneaky sis
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>>77522649
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>>77522598

well he'll want to find love at least once in his life.

who else is there?

canyon and her canyon sized vag?
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>>77522864
That relationship would be weird on multiple levels
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>>77522911
Good weird.
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>>77520853

but anon if they make them kiss or something 4chan will be just as angry
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>>77522911

it's a post-apocalyptic world.

you gotta take what you can get.
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>>77522944
Who cares what 4chan thinks anymore? They're angry at everything, no matter what someone does.
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>>77522972
no we're not FUCK YOU
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>>77523003
Yes you are. When something gets too popular, it's shit. When something isn't very popular, it's hipster shit and belongs in the trash. The opinions of a minority are always more vocal here because we are anonymous and we can't tell anyone apart. That's why we love it, though.
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PB is best princess
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>>77523051
I don't get it. How can female Finn be thicker and more mature-looking than male Finn? Is that much of a difference between males and females at age 14-16?
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>>77522864
Sometimes she's portrayed as being about 10 times his size. Sometimes she's a little under twice as tall and that's it.

She strikes me as the alpha male seeking type of woman that needs to have the biggest and best, most popular ever type of guy. I can't imagine she'd want anything to do with Finn unless he was much older.
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>>77522864

I doubt canyon would be interested in finn after taking billy's hero d.

Perhaps marceline or pb will give him pity sex from time to time.
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>>77523140
>Is that much of a difference between males and females at age 14-16?
Yes, but also she's actually older than Finn, or at least, was I guess.
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>>77523276
It'd make sense if female Finn was older because otherwise Ice King would be a pedo, or at least a hebe.
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>>77523276
>posting thumbnails.
Stop that fucking shit, /co/.
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>>77523364
Didn't know until it was too late, thanks for the full.
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>>77523140
Finn is actually supposed to be more of a chubby teen, but the noodle extremities kinda killed it.
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>>77519614
I'd say Motoko Kusanagai is kind of like that. Some versions had her have a boyfriend or girlfriends, but it was never really a focus, and here romantic relations haven't ever defined her in any way. Though I'm not too much of a fan of her in general, but just because her personality is a bit too stoic for me.

Ghibli heroines are like that too, especially San, Kushana and Nausicaa.
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>>77523497
>>>/a/
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>canon
How so?
>watching Adventure Time past season 2.
This show became so fucking putrid over the years.
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>>77523497
Piss off with this off-topic shit, f>>>/a/ggot.
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>>77519162
What if I liked season 6 a lot? It had some pretty trippy episodes like the one with Prismo being revived and the mountain of monks that I really liked. I know /co/ will probably eat me alive for stating all this.
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>>77522386
part 7?
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>>77519202
>Yfw you realize that putting lesbians in something is the 2010's version of what putting something in space was to the 00's.
FreddyXJason: as lesbians!
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>>77523534
>Evil Emperor Proteus
>some gobbledey gook trip
why do you do this, this ain't Steam.
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>>77523575
https://mega.nz/#!uxoUgQzL!aR8IzXmTRBYE1Ezx_iqJ1IAxfan8d7NuceaKAJ-krAg

also part 8
https://mega.nz/#!DtZ2hbaQ!yEeGew_A1KMmBAbAgBDTNWzr0yD7ePEu4KBWiBvMn7U

>>77523548
You'll probably still like it. Those who say Stakes is bad are just trolling or really bad-minded.
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>>77521084

>Olivia: Well…after the “What Was Missing” episode, the fans are actually the ones who came up with the whole lesbian possibility (laughs). I was talking to Kent Osborne –

>Martin: – head writer of the show, and an old friend of ours –

>Olivia: -- and we were just joking around, and I went, “Really? You made me a lesbian?” (laughs) And he goes, “No! That didn’t even cross our minds.” But so many of the fans were convinced that was going on that in a weird way, they’re maybe kind of banking on that a little bit.

>Martin: They’re just letting the rumor be there, even though it’s not true.

>Olivia: Yeah.
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>>77523188

didn't canyon say that billy was too much of a manchild for her?

finn might have a chance if he wises up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN_RZ1CfbYY
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>>77523737
By far the best AT related song outside the actual series.
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>>77523733
Yeah, and the best part is she isn't boring and is still cool for adventuring and stuff.
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>>77523771
no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp7GsRKLmJs

Who's in charge here is pretty based too though.
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>>77518670
Here on /co/, as always. I've watched one episode of AT in my whole life and it was the one where the vampire dyke sang to the pink girl in front of a glowing door.

Rebecca Sugar told me they were lesbians. She has a better show now, so I guess she was right.
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>>77523636
where have you been?
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>>77523814
>She has a better show now, so I guess she was right.
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>>77523733
>dat canyon
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>>77523737
This song was actually in the video game? Was the game worth a damn?
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>>77518670
If you want something to blame you can blame the non canon adventure time comics for making it get more attraction
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>>77523859
It was alright, but kind of short.
Basically, Zelda II, but with Adventure Time.
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>>77521177
this desu senpai
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>>77523859
It's an alright game but it's rather short. Adventure Time is one of those few rare TV shows that translates rather well into a video game format
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>>77523891
That sounds pretty alright to me. Cheap on amazon too so...I'm going for it.
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>>77523733
he become a manchild as he frow older, i dont know i didnt see Finn playing any games latly so he mght have a chance
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>>77523999
Finn is still up for adventuring so I think he'd stand a chance with Canyon. That is unless they decide to start writing Finn like a manchild.
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>>77521325
What the fuck happened here where fucking Jesse Moynihan has become a scapegoat for anything they dislike in AT?
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>>77523841
ALL of the romance bullshit ruined Homestuck.
Although I'm half convinced that Hussy made it terrible on purpose.
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>>77521305
Korra
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>>77524239
He projected his own gnostic bullshit and existential quanderies onto AT and is a big part of why AT season 6 was a lot of new age stuff with characters barely reacting to anything.
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>>77525390
Why is that bad? Isn't it actually cool?
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>>77525390
>He projected his own gnostic bullshit and existential quanderies onto AT

Give some examples.
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>>77523737
That was fucking awesome. I KNOW nobody involved with Adventure Time wrote that. You the the artist?
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>>77525447
Well, Breezy was mostly anecdotal on his part, with the feeling empty inside and trying to fill that by smooching on girls, the whole vision quest with the comet with Finn saying the most important act of creation is being born, the catalyst comets in general seem right out of Forming, and Martin is pretty much Noah.
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>>77525447
That shitty-ass episode where Finn just floats around as a ghost apathetically observing different things.
>>
Am I the only person who doesn't care if gay people exist

Like, they exist. It happens. I don't see why people get into a bitch fit when gay people happen to exist.
>>
>>77523516
>>77523540
Is this bait or are you just some kind of newfag redditors?
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>>77525551
I'm with you on that one. People are overreacting this way too much.
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>>77518670
in an alternate universe made entirely of your imagination, op!
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>>77525658
>>77525551
This is a site that exists primarily to bitch and talk about how everything created past a certain date, which only the poster knows of, sucks.

Any and all things that are not straight white people also suck and is just pandering.
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>>77520853
it doesnt make any sense, dude. if you were in love with someone you wouldnt be so distant, so confused about how they feel. so separated-because-you-run-with-different-crowds. you'd actually miss each other a bit.
and when you gave someone a gift they used as pajamas, you would KNOW about it, not feel like 'shit i guess they didnt like it because they never wear it'
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>>77525784
Nope, it's just 3 days into the future
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>>77525551
I don't think the issue is that gay people exist, anon. It's that gay shipping is getting inserted into a lot of things in a very heavy handed way.
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>>77525853
The bubbline stuff in stakes is reaalllyyy subtle and ambiguous - it's got a lot of attention drawn to it by lovers + haters but in the actual show it's not that obvious or heavy-handed at all.
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>>77525853
Different anon, but here's my thoughts: gay being OK is a relatively new thing. Wouldn't literally any attempt at portraying a gay couple come off as heavy handed to we who are so used to it not being a thing at all?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't really get the idea that the writers DON'T WANT to do this. Maybe they were inspired by certain fans, but those fans were inspired by them first.
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>>77525909
You make a good point about the attention drawn to it by lovers haters. I'm trying to make sense of it myself but I don't think the issue is as simple as people upset that gay people exist.

>>77525920
Another good point on it seeming heavy handed since we aren't used to it. Perhaps fans are annoyed because they aren't committing to it and just tip toeing around the issue instead?
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Remember when adventure time was about adventures and not faggots using the show as a progressive soapbox?
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>>77525551
I can't really blame people for getting mad. Writers want to represent gay relationships in their cartoons, but they are too scared to show the progression of a same-sex romance on screen. I guess for fear of backlash from executives/angry parents/dropped ratings?

So instead they drop subtle hints that something might be there to please their 15-25 year old online following, then say fuck it and go 0-100 real quick with there suddenly being two characters in love.


Korra is /co/'s favorite example of this; some letters exchanged off screen and a couple of blushes and then suddenly holding hands and staring longingly into each others eyes in the final scene of the series. And the writers act like thats the natural progression of a romantic interest. They lay a subtle foundation, skip the meat and jump straight to being a couple.

Thats why its a jarring change in character for people who weren't looking for the romance in the first place.


In the case of AT its not as bad since in the lore you have these two characters who have known each other for centuries and have obviously had a strong and emotional friendship (indicated by the "I'm just your problem" song).

I think people are jumping the gun because "Bubbline" isn't literally canon in the show (at least not yet). But it becomes a natural reaction to this direction of writing after previous examples.


Personally I'm gay so I don't get buttmad about it all. But if writers are going to have a same-sex relationship I wish they'd show the two characters being in love, instead of just making them be in love. Does that make sense?
>i know im expecting too many levels of detail from a children's cartoon
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>>77526075
No not really
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>>77525803
They were supposed to have broken up and it does seem like they missed each other
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>>77526075
Are you enjoying these 7 season-long graybles? Have you guessed the theme?
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I am sick of the secret lesbians in kid shows.

I am sick of the gay faggots pushing their gay shit.
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>>77526093
Super good points. Thanks anon.

How do you feel about it becoming progressively more obvious that bubbline is going without actually being canon? Think it's better, worse, or just all the same ad long as they don't all the way commit?
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>>77522972
People caring about 4chan ruined 4chan.
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>>77526297
I never realized how much I hated the Graybles host character until that newest video game. That manner of speaking is the worst "joke" in the series.
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>>77521324
I miss old /co/

Back when we had lesbian appreciation threads and loved lesbian shit but now we can't enjoy lesbians cause somewhere some tumblr girl thinks it's progressive.

Maybe sjw don't even actually like lesbians they're just pretending to as reverse psychology so there's less dudes enjoying porn.
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>>77526313
>One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the lesbians will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new lesbian overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted 4Chan anon, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves
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>>77526313
Bubbline just ain't my ship, but I guess I'll swallow it if it's done well.
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>>77519223
Realistic relationships aren't fantastic, though.
>>77519671
>dealt with
You mean portrayed in passing?
>>77519965
The arc he's talking about does have that stuff. And then crazy magic stuff happens, and people die.
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>>77526447
Same way I always felt about Fubblegum. I want bubbline endgame, but I'll love whatever they do as long as they MAKE w want it, you know?
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>>77526313

>I am sick of the gay Jap faggots pushing their gay Jap shit.

Me too brother.

Me too.
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>>77526364

I read your post in his voice
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>>77526439
>underground flannel shirt and hiking boot factory caves

fix'd
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>>77526487
>Mortal Recoil set up kid PB and Finn adventures
>Ripped away from fubblefans the next season
>she's now possibly into marceline now
the pain anon
>our fw

so much pain. you have the fucking comics at least let us have to show god dammit
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mmm all this anti-bubbline hate

tasty
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>>77519223
Genre fiction in all forms is exploitative of many things, including all relationships therein. Using the subject matter's innate or otherwise established appeal to draw attention to your material. That's what exploitation means in this context. In AT, relationships are exploited to draw the shipping crowd. Bubiline teasing is no more or less exploitative than Finn+PB. Get your head out of your ass about hawt lesbians.
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>>77526612
Mark my words if Bubbline turns out to be friendzone I will go on the biggest banter spree since 18-1 on /sp/
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>>77526548
The comics are shit. We will consume all you love.

I think I actually would have liked Teen-PBxFinn. But I think between seasons 2 and 3 the writers realized that almost any way they try to stick PB with Finn, it would epicly undermine her character and reinforce the "girls are rewards that you earn" stereotype. Thus, it is my belief that Fubblegum shippers are SOL.

Sorry man, I know that pain.
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>>77526612
What does Bubbline coloncrucifixion taste like?
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Fubblegum for life.
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>>77523841
Hey, the lesbians in Gunnerkrigg Court were pretty natural. That's exactly the age and setting young girls would be experimenting.
>media ruined by
The media wasn't ruined. The fanbase was.
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>>77526667
>it would epicly undermine her character and reinforce the "girls are rewards that you earn" stereotype
Why does it have to be a stereotype though? Isn't that basically the same thing of saying that video games cause violence and shit?

Are there actually that many dumb people in the world?
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>>77523733
Why are there so few episodes of Canyon?
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I mean, with all the build up so far, I can only see the end of the show going a few ways. No way they'll do a Bubbline end game. It would be a huge fuck you to everyone but the handful of Bubbline fags.

1) Jake and Lady
2) Jake and Lady, Finn and PB
3) Finn and PB
4) None
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>>77526757
Except that this stereotype has been around for millennia. Literally. It actually IS affecting peoples' perceptions of how the real world works, and I'm saying that from multiple firsthand experiences.

So yes. There are.

Anyway as soon as they dropped the Fubblegum motifs, that's exactly when PB started getting waaaay more deep and interesting as a character. She stopped being just "Princess Peach + mad scientist" (which is already pretty cool, but shallow), and started being "Despotic morally grey immortal ruler of a people she designed to be weak and subservient to her". How fucking awesome is that?
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>>77526683
sweet
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>>77526882
Fucking sweet, I was looking for that scene in GIF. It'll be my new go-to "Fubblegum is dead" reaction.
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>>77526502
Funny enough, I'm sick to death of all the casual yuri that in every Slice of Life anime. Likewise in western shows I fucking hate a flaming faggot character but in anime those characters ranges from tolerating them to outright liking them like Leeron.
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>>77526917
Can't wait till it's canon canon and fubblegum fags cry their salty tears
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>>77526854
>fubble wouldnt happen because people were dumb enough to apply cartoons to real life
I still say she could have developed nicely with drops of fubble hints, but I agree with your post as much as it pains me to say it.

Now instead of a small minority of fans that wouldn't shut the fuck up now we've got the most vocal of them all not going to shut the fuck up.
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>>77526989

That mean she going to die.
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Well, since we're speaking of lesbians in cartoons, does your country (assuming you're not american) censor such things?

I'm italian, here SU stopped a few episodes before the S1 finale. Some people think it may have to do with the Ruby and Sapphire reveal, the adaptation team probably doesn't know what to do with it

Someone here mentioned Jeff's lesbian moms in Clarence, in Italy the masculine one was turned into an actual man, or at least that's what it looked like when i saw an episode by chance, i didn't hear her being called by name but she had a man's voice
I had to look it up on the internet to be sure she was supposed to be a woman, only her eyelashes and the dyke-ish haircuts gave it away

That's part of why i guess most producers are afraid to go full homo, not all countries and cultures have the same perception of certain things so it may hurt the show's popularity internationally-wise. But then again i guess the american audience is the one that matters the most? I dunno
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>>77527007

They started to become Poison ivy&Harley fans.

Or worse, Asami&korra fans.
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>>77521350
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>>77519555
>>77519614
>>77527048
Why are lesbians so terribly done in the west? Fucking Sakura Trick is subtle compared to this.
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embrace it
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>>77527028
That sucks about gay censorship. Here in Spain they didn't censor Jailbreak or any lesbian stuff, but they still tone down the violence of every cartoon for kids.
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>>77527028
In the 90's the USA dubs of Sailor Moon had that dyke couple become really close cousins or some shit.
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>>77527028
It's funny you say this.

Most Americans, majority of Americans hate homosexuals. All they have is tolerance. Same can be for said for the majority of non-whites in America too.

For instance here in South Delaware it's hard for someone of any color of skin to get a decent paying job and Lewes and Rehoboth will only let caucasian and gay/homosexuals who are caucasian work there because Delaware sells it's holiday/vacation hotspots to the rich homosexual community and caucasian community. That's why everyone who isn't white has to go to and around Smyrna (Northern Delaware to get any sort of well decent job)

In the end of all things, the only reason America does it, is to be unique and make money for the shock value. But every day citizens are a lot like Europe in those respects.
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>>77527121
You Eurofags do it right. I'm 'murrican, I really think that my stupid country shaming sex and glorifying violence is fucking a lot of us up.
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>>77527113
I won't like it but if the writers truly want to go that route then fine by me.

fucking tumblrinas god damn motherfuck all of those fucking faggots
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Is there any actual, physical evidence that this ship is real?

Or is it just shitty headcanon like all ships are?
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>>77527142
Dude I was there for that. First few episodes of the censorship, before Cartoon Network they were actually Sisters, they didn't show the indoor swimming pool episode. Then in the early/mid 2000's when they aired it on CN they were second cousins BUT they showed the indoor swimming pool scene where they kiss for about thirty seconds.

CN had to cut the broadcast and put on I think Ronin Warriors or Dragon Ball (and or Z) for the remainder of the day. After that they didn't put Sailor Moon back on the air for an entire year. Toonami for a few months still had the inbetween block of "Coming up next is Sailor Moon" but in its place was an assortment of different animes, hell they even put PowerPuff Girls in their tv block.
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>>77527193
Still technically headcanon, but there were scenes in basically every Stakes episodes that broadcast it like a foghorn.
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>>77527193
Fubblefag here. In the latter episodes of the series it really looks like they're making a push towards it. Prepare for people glorifying it like it's the first moon landing m8
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>>77527193
The producers of the show and creators are still tip toeing the line. I just caught up with all the new episodes and I don't know how they could possibly do it so well but if your a shipper you could say there's something between them but if you're not you're probably looking at Elsa/Anna Sisterly Love
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>>77527193
Read the thread. They've basically pushed it as much as possible without outright confirming it.
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>>77525800
this is the most accurate post I've seen in years on 4chan
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>>77518670
This show is garbage homosexual propaganda created to entrap youth in satanic and internet culture i.e. tumblr

http://christwire.org/2012/04/is-adventure-time-a-gateway-drug-to-lsd-homosexuality-and-the-rave-lifestyle/
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Do you really care that much about the pandering of a show that has long since stopped being good?

Next you'll tell me you have an opinion on something that happened in Family Guy recently.
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>>77527121
There's some weird censorship going on here, not only about lesbians. When watching AT i noticed some times a number of frames are cut out, only example i remember is when Lemongrab is eating a pie from a rat's mouth. In the italian episode after he captures the rat the scene jumps to when he stopped eating and you could only see pieces of pie falling from his mouth. I wonder how many little things like that are there

>>77527142
Same here, although i can't remember if they made them cousins or sisters, i guess they followed your lead since it's easier to adapt from english than from japanese

But i was talking more about modern stuff, the fact that old shows were censored or tweaked here and there to make things more "normal" is a given, decades ago nobody gave a fuck about being faithful to the original content and the fans couldn't even know about the changes
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>>77521197
You will bitch about anything gay no matter what.
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>>77524239
"Breezy" happened.
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>>77521226
Do not evade the post filters. Global rule #10.
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>>77521305
Mission Hill. Go on, refute that. Try to type the words.
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>>77527432
Yup, so you mind killing yourself? It'd make me pretty happy with one less fag in the world. K thanks. :^)
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When your show starts pandering to homosexuals it's clear all the real content and ideas have all been used up and you're just going for the lowest hanging fruit.

At least let it die with dignity.
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>>77527546
Stakes has by far been the best thing since S4 though, so fuck off nigger
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>>77527652
This. Cool villains with cool fights/solutions, adventuring with a "full party" and a light sprinkling of shipper bait. I'd be okay with it being like this all the time.
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>>77527193
It's all shitty headcannon. They are like sisters in-arms. Both different flavored aspects of a common theme. Both ageless, supernatural, and not good expressing particular emotions. The writers also know what they are doing. It is left TOTALLY AMBIGUOUS intentionally so the viewer is allowed to see what they WANT to see. That way nobody is truly wrong and fans keep feeling as validated as they want in their own chosen perception.
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>>77521976
It's a castle. It's huge. It's like letting someone keep a turkey in your fridge because there's is broken. It's hardly an imposition.
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>>77527369
youre_wrong.mp3
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>>77527658
How dare you use Simon Belmont to shitpost? May maggots crawl from your eyes.
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>>77527546
>pandering to
With. By use of.
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>>77527658
This is the first time I've seen them rubbing it in, while fubblers were shitting their pants at anybody who said any little thing against their ship for all the threads leading up to stakes
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>>77527712
Yeah, the endless arguing over whether it's actually canon will be really fun. I'm sure if there weren't issues about where AT airs, they wouldn't keep being wusses with all this ambiguity
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>>77521325
hahaha
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>>77527718
>that webm
Fuck, that's hot.
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>>77519516
in seriousness, she said it was because she got turned when she was a messed up kid, and now it's been 1000 years and she's still messed up
she thinks becoming mortal will finally allow her to grow, change, and get better
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>>77520410
Debateable. I mean, I think he died too, but the show never explicitly states it.
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>>77521683
>'rocks' her world
GO FOR IT MARCY
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>>77523051
>they will never shatter the divide between these two universes and allow these fucked up characters to be with the only ones who truly understand them
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>>77523051
That's a nice mash-up.
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>>77528333
>Implying Fionna "literally every episode is about how the boys want my snatch" would be able to relate to Finn "I'm the biggest beta ever watch me drown in my own tears"
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>>77523733
Now I feel sad for her.
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>>77519866
There are a lot of gay men in media. It's just that they're almost non existent in media aimed towards kids, which raises some questions.

Also bisexual men are almost non existent in media period.
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>>77526093
I think with this one it is because until now there has been fuck all development, just little jokes

PB even had a whole episode about how she doesn't want a relationship at all, then you have the weird implications that her and Finn could be a thing again after the show spent age pushing them apart

In summary this show is a mess
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>>77528616
I think they would just chill and go on some adventures, be happy they can spend some time with a member of the opposite sex they don't have to worry about. From there things would progress.
Also, Finn has basically every princess except Bubblegum, FP, and Marcy lusting after his dick. I think he'd be able to relate a little.
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>>77527150
>Most Americans, majority of Americans hate homosexuals.

What the fuck am I reading
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>>77521257
How can you be gay when your asexual species manufactures more of your race artificially?
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>>77519131
Funny, I thought eock beat scizzors
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>>77521146
Not defending Steven Universe, although I continue to watch it I think the story structure is shit. Now that I'm done with that tangent I must disagree about Steven Universe shoehorning lesbian undertones. The concept of fusion was introduced in like episode 7 then expanded after that, whereas PB and Marcy's lesbianism allegations started in season 3.

Their relationship was completely shoehorned to the point that the writers have absolutely no idea what to do with it today. There was no build up to it, and the pay off will probably be shit like the current status of Steven Universe.
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>>77522864
I prefer Finnceline, but I am down for some Finn/Canyon.
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>>77528073
>they wouldn't keep being wusses with all this ambiguity
If they didn't have to worry about butthurt shippers calling them homophobes or attacking them professionally it's just as likely they would have declared them BFF's to shut down the entire debate early on because it's retarded.
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>>77529367
Yeah, they hate the pairing and are just being held hostage by the shippers, and that's why they made 8 episodes with those two broads as the main power couple.
Listen to yourself talk once in a while.
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>>77529396
>>77529396
No you're right, I'm sure their terrified of losing their audience of four kids in Saudi Arabia or where the fuck ever to touch on the hot taboo of candy lesbian girl.
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>>77521257
>agender
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>>77529449
I keep hearing that AT is a lot more popular internationally than it is in the US right now, and from the sounds of that Italian anon, censorship would actually be a big problem
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>>77529568
If they even care what kids in another hemisphere are watching, why risk it at all? Is it that important to appeal directly to the tastes of shippers in the AT fanbase that they would risk censorship in most countries? Just say they're friends, shippers are happier fighting an uphill battle anyway and a positive bubbline reveal was never going to change the world anyway.
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As a straight white male, I'm sick of lesbian relationships in cartoons!

More gay stuff please.
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>>77529568
Censorship of AT is a big thing outside the US actually. I remember watching in three local CN versions how they even cut out Marcy spitting on Bonnie in What Was Missing. Although AT still is a fucking huge thing outside the Americas it wouldn't change much if it's about homosexual stuff, they'd probably let it be there while censoring fart jokes and everything implicitely sexual.
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>>77529658
Maybe because...

they want to
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>>77529754
Then take that shit to webcomics because children's cartoons are watched like a hawk by family interest groups of all kinds.
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>>77529798
Sooo let's keep restricting ourselves to traditional values in cartoons forever even if it's not what the writers want?
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>>77529861
If the intended audience is small children I'm fine with this. It's literally the job of the writers to create stories for children and that means they don't get to explore all the themes they would like.
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>>77526882
why is he still so short
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>pandering to
You fags are not even trying to not be as bad as Tumblr.
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>>77530045
Cause fuck you.

Honestly they don't want to invest the time to create a new design or someone from the higher ups are fucking with them.
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>>77530045
he has a growth disorder, don't be rude
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>>77527432
>Straight people actually like this kind of shit in a non-sexual way

When did we fail as a society?
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The thing that's the most annoying to me is how like a solid 40% is here exclusively for the lesbos. Notice how much more popular AT is whenever those hoes have any onscreen interaction? Fucking fairweather fans.

It would be a joy to see a few piece of fanart not focused on those two for once.
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>>77529992
It's not intended for small children though, it's intended for teens. They're even saying words like "turd" in the show now. And there's all kinds of somewhat violent and mature themes. Doesn't it air on the adult swim block in the US?

And besides, sooner or later whether you like it or not, people will stop seeing gay people as offensive just by existing and it won't be a big deal to have a gay couple in a kids show if they're not groping on screen or anything.
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>>77530045
Because the writers changed their minds again about making fubblegum cannon and decided to pander tumblr and just do bubbline

>>77530055
pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander pander (you)
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>>77530186
>It's not intended for small children though, it's intended for teens. They're even saying words like "turd" in the show now. And there's all kinds of somewhat violent and mature themes. Doesn't it air on the adult swim block in the US?
No, it airs with the other TV-Y7 babby shows at around 7 because it's a show intended for children.
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>>77519373
Also her indirect I love yous. For PB though its ambiguous but her emotions and the way she acts with Marcie just make it seems she maybe have feelings too.
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>>77530350
Stakes is airing at 8, an hour before adult swim, and AT is rated PG - may be unsuitable for younger children

With all the weird shit that happens in this show, gayness wouldn't be that out there
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Talkback thread is up
>>77530573
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>>77530478
Gayness has been explicitly thrown out by writers. It's just a kids show, dude, any "depth" they try to throw in is just google scholar shit like Moynihan's understand of tripartite psychology.
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>>77521726
Animation takes a lot of time and money. Unlike anime blushes, Cartoon blushes are usually meant for something specific. I've seen this argument with Korra and Asami during Reunion please don't start this.
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>>77523733
>>77523847

>startin to develop giantess fetish

fuck
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>>77530746
Gayness isn't deep

This is just going in circles, my point is, I'm sure the writers would do it if censorship wasn't an issue in other countries
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>>77530775
I don't give a shit about Korra, I've never watched it anyway. Also I don't watch anime, so whatevs

>Cartoon blushes are usually meant for something specific
Yeah, liked friendship or embarassment.
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>>77526093
Good post dude
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>>77530819
While it would be par for the course for AT to shoehorn in shallow garbage like a gay couple, I doubt it's been their intention since it's been thrown out by AT staff.
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>>77530880
>I doubt it's been their intention
We've already gone over how incredibly obvious they're being with PB/Marcy but whatever you want to believe dude
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>>77526093
>I wish they'd show the two characters being in love, instead of just making them be in love. Does that make sense?

Perfect way of putting it. Korra just felt forced in the sense that it felt like a complete twist ending. But there wasn't any of the normal stuff you see in a actual relationship.
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>>77527193

if you have a good explanation as to why else bubblegum would lay in a bed sniffing marceline's old shirt, i'd like to hear it.
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>>77530937
>incredibly obvious
Like the picture of Marcy "in the closet" and blushing? Damn, I was blind but now I truly see.
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>>77531072
Because they scissor at night, obviously.
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>>77531076
Or dreaming of living with PB in domestic bliss til' death do they part
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>>77526093
Exactly. Korra didn't have gay characters, it had characters they made gay. It's almost as bad with Adventure Time.
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>>77531072
I'm not that anon but i sniff my different old tshirts all the time. They seriously all smell slightly different depending on how old they are. Or maybe her nose was just itchy. Maybe the writers were baiting ship fags? There could be dozens of minor silly reasons.
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>>77531180
Just like Finn and Jake, and don't say that they're both obviously gay too.
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>>77527107
A lot of it just comes down to the current state of the culture.

A long time ago, a picture similar to this got posted on /v/ asking what was the difference here.
The most common response was "The left is pandering garbage while the right is cute girls being cute"
Pretty typical response, but it got me thinking.
The first issue is that there just isn't as much precedence.
Essentially, the main problem often comes down to people feeling that western media lesbians are more forced and poorly constructed. That they aren't genuine and are pushing some kind of agenda.
Well, imagine who's writing them in. It's people who's only experience with gay stuff is about the struggle of growing up back when it wasn't as accepted. So usually, they write about that shit and don't know how to write these characters as normal people that just happen to be lesbians.

The other thing, which is more about what people are talking about here, is that lesbians in these cartoons are a relatively new character type.
Like the one anon said, there's like 5 shows with lesbians now? That stands out because the number is still so low.
>If something hasn't been done, people are wary to approach it
>The first ones that openly try shit get to take center stage
>Then, more people start trying to do the thing, between 4-10 or so becomes this ground of "Geez, you're just trying to cash in on this shit"
>But, given time, you get into the double digits and it becomes "Oh, yeah, it's a thing again. They're not that important"
There will be a point where lesbians reach a good saturation in the medium and people will stop losing their shit over it and just accept that they're lesbians.

TL:DR - Give writers time to play with their lesbians and find better ways to write them, and the more lesbians show up, the less impact it will have so people will stop caring.