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Rebels Get Rekt-Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.co.uk/updates/release.htm

>Newest Rebels Episode: Wings of the Master:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-BUx5evwAjIbFBMa09YX2NYbkE&usp=sharing
https://mega.nz/#F!SogDgSzb!DpwkJ493-8UNkhTWaCB-3A

>Newest Rebels Recon Episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AIH28G2YRo

>Star Wars: Rebels MEGA (Season 1):
https://mega.co.nz/#F!UYQCwTwa!s-n8--buJPbauv6ylUo-DA

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy

>Star Wars: Uprising: ( /co/ Cartel: Loth-Cats )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpW6fOEvuSg
http://community.kabam.com/forums/showthread.php?568108-Newx-s-New-Player-Guide

>Star Wars: Commander ( /co/ Squad: Empire - SheevSquad )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FXrcuPR4XQ

>All Canon Novels and Comics: (Including the Rebels UK Comics)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!2R5kDTqQ!WfrDla-jvDIn05U57T9hhQ

>Star Wars Audiobooks (Canon and Legends) and Motion Comics:
https://mega.nz/#F!w9tFCZxK!7zthk3nLz-0ATC9zxxEPuw

>Star Wars Legends Novels (Incomplete):
https://mega.nz/#F!AgVghZhQ!0SL9AVJvCbzUsRICuAoguQ

>Canon Guide & Timeline:
http://imgur.com/a/wnoIs

>Star Wars /co/ Booru:
starwars.booru.org

>Star Wars: Rebels / TCW Soundtracks:
http://www.kevinkiner.com/mp3music/StarWarsRebels/
http://www.kevinkiner.com/mp3music/CloneWars/
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bb842b2alua58tb/SWTCWS16.rar
http://soundcloud.com/deankinersounds/sets/star-wars-rebels-music
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NEW COMMERCIAL
https://youtu.be/27TiaemuExo
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>>77424948
neat crossover
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>>77424893
Third for space is crazy
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As promised, the latest Chewbacca issue.
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>>77424987
good man
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>>77424976
Why is he going to the wrong way?

Guy's just asking to be Vader'ed.
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>>77424987
Hell yeah, been waiting for this.
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>>77424987
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>>77425026
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>>77425001
Someone made a bet that the captain couldn't fly a ship backwards, as you can see, he won the bet.
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Why do the new blasters in TFA look like leftovers from JJTrek
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDd9EcJxnb4

Here's some more new footage other than the ABC preview.
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>>77424831
Think about it this way:

In real life, everyone theoretically has the potential to become a buddhist monk seeking enlightenment. But few people become monks, and fewer still reach enlightenment. If you never become a monk you could say you were not destined to. If you do become a monk you could say that you were always meant to, it was always inside of you just waiting to come out.

So now think of these monks as characters in a story that's heavy on themes about destiny. For the sake of this story about destiny, what is the effective difference between every character being able to become a monk but not doing so for one reason or another, versus only certain characters having "monk-sensitivity" because they are destined to do so?

Now apply it to Star Wars. In this fairy tale about destiny, what is the effective difference between Han Solo being able to use the Force, but never doing so for one reason or another, and Han Solo straight up not being innately Force-sensitive to the point where he can tap into its power in a meaningful way?
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>>77425063
A new kind of pottery maybe?
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>>77425046
>Sarlacc'ed

add it to the Wook swear page
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>>77425063
I think you just answered your own question
But it's to make the First Order look 30 years more advanced than the Empire in the OT
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>>77425046
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>>77424966
Fucking Ackbar.
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>>77425063
Do you mean how they look or how they fire?

Because they're literally the E-11 with the mag on the right now
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>>77425101
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>>77425101
Chewie, you're the best.
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>>77425118
Does anyone here /k/ at all and can maybe recognize the weapons real life origin?
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>>77425128
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>>77425086
UPDATE THE WOOK
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>>77425151
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>>77425148
Sterling
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>>77425178
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>>77425188
Thank you senpai
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>>77425151
>The Larva eventually turn into poisonous beetles.

...Shit. Well, that's fucked up.
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>>77425202
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>>77425148
E-11 was based on the Sterling L2A3

The F-11D is just that with the mag and Hengstler counter now on the right hand side and with a different scope, handgrip/buttstock, and rear iron sight
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>>77425188
Nothing beats just painting an MG-34 black.
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>>77425225
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>>77425249
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>>77425267
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>>77425267
Wookiees are some noisy motherfuckers.

They just don't shut up.
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>>77425230
Got it. I'm illiterate when it comes to guns though im not anti firearm. Thanks for the details!
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>>77425287
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>>77425316
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>>77425316
>Hulk Landscape!
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>>77425432
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>>77425432
Cool droid design
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>>77425507
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>>77425524
Thanks a lot, anon
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>>77425524
Thanks for running but Christ, Chewbacca is the most nothing of the new comics.
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>>77425524
Chewie is my husbando
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>>77425556
It's pretty bare-bones and feels completely unnecessary, but there's something comfy about watching Chewie mucking around on a minor side quest

It's sort of like Chewie's appearance in TCW, it was needless but I can't hate it
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imma lay some facts on you all

PT > OT

why? the effects in the OT are garbage! the PT has real swordfighting and yoda isnt some stupid ass puppet yo, hes a fucking high tech 3d model.

the effects of the OT are ltierally toys man. theres so much cool action and people being killed in the PT man, also jango. nobody watches these films for anything but the action anyway
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>>77425623
>>77425623
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>>77425623
Here's your reply.
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>>77425647
Where is this quote from?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PxLei2vdW0

discuss
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>>77425118
Not those, no. The Resistance blaster rifle and the blaster Han gives to Rey in tonights commercial.
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>>77425593
My feelings, too. Not every comic needs to be a huge plot-moving part of history. I like a cozy adventure every now and then.
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>>77425647
>>77425650
whatevs you dumb
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>>77425593
>Chewie mucking around on a minor side quest
It's his life.
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>>77425683

cant wait till

>Rey is not luke's kid
and
>Plaguesis is not Snoke

fags get BTFO
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>>77425683
not enough Poe
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>>77425722
Rey is Han and Leia's kid according to the leaks.
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>Post yfw: Ackbar says "ITS A TRAP!" in VII
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>>77425754
If that's true, then why the fuck did they abandon her on Jakku?
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>>77425791
To keep her safe.
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>>77425791
I dunno, Kylo is their kid too apparently. That's probably the weirdest and least explained part of the leaks, but they have been right about everything else, so...
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>>77425825
Literally Jacen and Jaina.
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>>77425841
EU fans will start masturbating in their seats if that turns out to be their names.
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So uh, watching the latest episode, and I'm wondering something.

Is no one allowed to call out Hera for being retarded? She's bitching about needing to be there for the fleet, but her only plan is to keep throwing ships at the blockade even though she knows they're going to lose one of the only two(!) runners they have left. And for some reason Commander Asian agrees with her. Why? Is Hara just stuck being a boring-ass perfect character forever?
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>>77425754
MSW has apparently backtracked on that. He was sure they were Rey's parents, but now he's not so sure.
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>>77425869
Nobody expected a starfighter to have a superlaser man.
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>>77425871
Yeah, from what I can tell the most recent stance on this is:
-Kylo is a Solo
-Rey's likely to be part of the Skywalker family, but MSW isn't sure if she's a Skywalker or a Solo
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>>77425918
How does that have to do anything with what I posted?
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>>77425869
It's Star Wars. Everyone is an idiot.
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>>77425926
I've noticed he stopped saying "by the way Kira is her real name" which he used to go out of his way to remind readers. Maybe it really was just a production codename and never intended to be part of the story,
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>>77425871
Rey herself confirmed she's Solo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyvjHHMLeKY
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>>77425683
>Stormtroopers with Electrostaffs

pretty good
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>>77425961

Not him, but wow you must be pretty dumb.
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>>77425996
I think it's a riot stick.
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>>77426018
I'm talking about before she gets the B-Wing, dingus. When she's talking about throwing blockade runners at the blockade as if they had the resources to justify those kinds of ridiculous losses.
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>>77425961
There weren't any other options THEN SUDDENLY SUPER MAGIC PROTOTYPE FIGHTER THAT SOLVES EVERYTHING

Their only choice was to sacrifice themselves to get those people food originally. That's actually how real blockades were tackled, you either fought a small war to destroy the blockade (as shown) you sneak through (not possible) or you ran the blockade as shown.
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>>77426070

Again, you're really dumb.
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>>77426095
>>77426111
Or they could tell Hera to fuck off because obviously the losses are too high. What's more important, the existence of that rebel cell that can keep fighting the Empire or one starving populace that is apparently so small that they can feed all on their own with a single supply drop? Just how small is this settlement they're so gung-ho about helping? At the very least the commander should have questioned whether it was worth it. You guys want to call me dumb? If you're saying this plan made any sense in to any actual tactician, you're both retarded.
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>>77426165
Are you in the right thread?
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>>77426170

Oh, you're just trolling.
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>>77426170
Nobody take this bait.
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>>77426188
No, no I was not.
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>>77426170
Sorry, civilians always come first.
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>>77426209
No worries. Get out while you still can. /swg/ is getting worse all the time.
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>>77426198
>>77426207
>>77426214
Am I on bizzaro /co/ tonight? I get that it's a kid's show but holy shit, I don't think I've ever seen them be this outright stupid before. You all know this kind of idiocy wouldn't fly on Clone Wars.
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>>77426241
>The trolling part 2: Troll Harder
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>>77426271
>the troll calls others trolls

Truly the most subtle art.
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>>77426241
>I'll take the ryloth arc of TCW for one response, Alex
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>>77425623 Prequels were different types of movies to the OT. GL once said "Never make the same film twice" Hence why the prequels aren't the copy paste OT fanboys wanted. The dialogue is just as cardboard as the OT sometimes awkward but it matters little because it's supposed to feel like a golden age pulp sci fi fairytale with cheesy dialogue and unrealistic romance. People just don't get this. It's great escapism and I love the way george tried to capture classic cinema, especially in episode two with a shitload of movie references a film buff like me loves. The prequels are movies movies. And so are the originals. I love them both for that warts and all. I can still understand not everyone wants "their star wars" to be like them but it's a big universe and respect has to be made for the things they added to the lore and feel of the saga at the very least.
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>>77426308
Nah, they're just Hera-fags. Truly the worst of the fandom. Zero taste. Probably Plagueis-lovers too.
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>>77425926
>>77425979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKLanph2ujM

Overwhelming evidence points her toward being a Solo IMO
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>>77426308
>Trolling part 3: Attack of the Troll
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>>77426170
>What's more important, the existence of that rebel cell that can keep fighting the Empire or one starving populace

They fight the Empire to keep populaces from starving and if they did quit helping those in need and did nothing to help people, the public would have seen the rebels as terrorists that only want to fight the Empire. The Rebels need public support and them not helping people would paint them as nothing more than agitators.

But yes, Hera did need some calling out on her plans, they weren't working.
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>>77425918
>starfighter to have a superlaser
How are they going to justify this? Are all B-Wings going to be equipped with this now, or just the super prototype? I'm pretty sure the old B-Wings were heavily armed but didn't have anything like this.
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>>77425869
Are you stupid or a troll? That's how you handle a real blockade
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>>77426394
Not

>The Phantom Troll
>Attack of the Trolls
>Revenge of the Trolls

Shit at least do it right.
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>>77426419
It's just a prototype.
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>>77426419
These aren't the EU B-Wings, buddy.
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>Maz Kanata is 1000 years old

That's it. That's the key to the Old Republic.
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>mfw msw said nothing about finn using the saber at maz's castle

there missing really important details probably.
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>https://instagram.com/p/6puNsxFE1e/

>tfw in training for the part of Rey, Daisy found that lifting and working out in general make her feel really good and has since incorporated it into her lifestyle

Perfection
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>>77426501
>Yet another ancient Jedi that survived the purge

Goddamn. So long as you weren't in the active temple registry you just got ignored by Palpatine, eh? I guess that's fair, right?
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>>77426419

mass produced B-wings are probably going to lack the big bad laser. Quarrie did say they could carry proton torpedoes. Whatever powers it would probably be too expensive to mass produce
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>>77426553
I don't think she's a jedi. Just a pirate with a long lifespan.
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>>77426419
They will have it, but yes, this is a prototype. We never really see the B-Wings in action in RotJ so this is perfectly acceptable. Makes sense that they can take down Star Destroyers. Their laser is basically a larger version of the Gunship lasers

>>77426553
She's not a Jedi
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>>77426553
>"I have lived long enough to see the same eyes in different people."

This line makes all the more sense. Looks like she's more or less the new Yoda
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>>77426369
>overwhelming evidence
>posts a video of two dorks going "it says Kira on this plaque, SOLO CONFIRMED!"
Okay
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>>77426569
Yet she happens to know a lot about the Force and have special Force-eye powers?

>they have “special meaning and power”
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>>77426432
And he says that using the super laser kills the hyper drive. So that gets scrapped from the project
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>>77426569
>>77426581
She has dialogue in the recent trailers hinting that she's knowledgeable of the Force and/or versed in its ways. Certainly trained in it
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>>77426420
Not when you have to blow 50% of your resources doing it, idiot.

The obvious option is not to do it and save your resources for a better operation. Shit, do you think the Rebels should jump into the core and try some retarded plan there, too? Because they're the good guys?
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>>77426613
You have to be a retard to think that's all we have.
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>>77426547
It's a Jedi trick.
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>>77426639
I'm gonna be blunt, you simply don't have the intellectual capacity to understand this. It's time for you to go.
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>>77426648
You'd have to be a retard to say "overwhelming evidence" and then post a video that's grasping at straws, but here we are. At least post something better than that.
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>>77425249

this chick has a serious case of tumblr jew nose in this panel
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>>77426648
>we
Is there a retarded fanboy hivemind out there now? Even the Sonic fandom can't claim that much.
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>>77426633
She'll turn out to be a Jedi Pirate and what Hondo said was in fact a nod to that since they have all sorts of inside info.
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>>77426675
Considering you haven't managed to cough up a decent counter-argument, I suggest you stop huffing glue and do something productive with your brain. Like letting it fire more than five synapses at a time.
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>>77426687
You're just ignorant and out of your element here, we have had quite a few things over the past year pointing toward her being a Solo. Nobody is going to play catch up with you.
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>>77426633
Yeah, but Force =/= Jedi.

She could easily be from some long-dead force user sect.

Canonically, we know of four force-using groups

Jedi
Sith(formed from Jedi during the Hundred Year Darkness)
Dagoyan Masters
Nightsisters(at least partially used The Force)

There is also the Force Priestesses and the Force Wielders from Mortis.
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>>77426692
>>77426687
>>77426718
Damn, you're one dedicated troll.
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>>77426726
A lot of circumstantial stuff and speculation. Nothing concrete. Even Jason Ward has started to doubt she's a Solo.

Is it possible? Yes, it is. Is it anywhere close to confirmed? Nope.
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>>77426758
Could be JJ spreading misinformation. I felt like there were several parts of the leaks that were oddly vague, especially the phrasing.
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>>77426747
This might be the worst troll I've ever seen. I'm going to say 13 years old. Maybe 16, but only with autism.
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>>77426746
That's true. I'd forgotten... somehow. Even though my oft explored non-Jedi Force sect are the Jal Shey
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>>77426758
That interview alone should be enough to clue you in. Why would her being solitary be a clue to her identity other than Solo? You know Luke wasn't solitary.
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>>77426780

Did you come here to shit on the Star Wars in general? Do you hate "nerds" or something? What's the deal?
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>>77426816
Just you, anon. Just you.
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>>77426799
>Solitary? Like... Solo?
>OMG CONFIRMED UPDATE THE WOOK
Let me guess, you also think her amused shrugging when asked about Plagueis is concrete proof that he's in the movie?
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>>77426841
He must have a really vicious, straightforward style due to the design of this thing. You can't really do all the fancy stuff.

Really looking forward to seeing it in action.
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>>77426847
Apparently Abrams denying Plagueis is in the movie counts as solid confirmation.

Hell, even Pablo Hidalgo has started making him of the Plagueisfags on twitter.
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>>77426876
Probably just cleaves with it.
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>>77426847
Nobody thinks Plagueis is in the movie except dumb EU fans.
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>>77426847
There's been something like 6 things pointing toward her being Solo since TFA stuff started coming our way. Maybe you're just clueless about all of it, but that's just you.
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>>77426883
No, no, Darth Plagueis isn't in TFA. What happened when Kasdan tried to answer the question?
>"Darth Vegas?"
>"H-HE'S JUST KIDDING!"
Why would Abrams want us to think he's kidding? Because Kasdan gave away a huge spoiler.

DARTH VEGAS CONFIRMED
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>>77426841
>Kylo Ren's unusual lightsaber is an ancient design, although the one he carries is recently constructed.

Interesting...

>The crossguard blades, or quillons, are raw power vented from the primary central blade

HA. Fucking finally, I've been saying this forever
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>>77426920
No, he's a fan of the band so he was confused for a second.

http://www.darthvegas.com/
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>>77426341
Go to bed, George.
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>>77425755
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>>77426953
Darth Vegas will appear in The Force Awakens... AS DARTH VEGAS!
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>>77426233
Keep it quiet
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>>77426341
I don't need to sleep I'm a billionaire goddamnit!
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>>77426565
You know what the big problem with this argument is? It is completely backwards.

That 1 B-Wing in one shot was able to do more damage then a squadron of B-Wings firing Proton Torpedos.

So for the cost of 1 super B-Wing, you have 11 less pilots (saving manpower and money to pay them), maintenance supplies, manpower for maintenance, fuel, ammo for Proton Torpedoes (and that there alone is huge).

It cant be THAT expensive because this guy on a backward planet developed it so its not like a huge corporation is needed for this thing and you obviously dont need a big power source sense you can fit it in a single B-Wing.

Fuck the B-Wing, this laser is FARRR more important and should be mass produced on corvettes.


>>77426622
Who gives a shit if it can hyperdrive. TIEs cant either, attach them to the Corvettes like you see the A-Wings do or make pocket carriers.
The episode was idiotic because that 1 laser is literally more capable then an entire wing of B-Wings, definitely cheaper, and far easier to use.
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Rewatched episode 3 with friends today and gad a blast.

Why us Sheev so amusing?
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>>77427413
They probably find out it has like a 25% chance of backfiring or something, and Hera just got super lucky.
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New TV Spot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27TiaemuExo

Fucking hell this movie looks brilliant. If Finn is the jedi I'm going to see this film so many times.
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>>77426341
Sheev is cheesy. Anakin and Padme are cheese flavored product
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>>77427465

spoiler: finn dies
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>>77427434
It would need to be something massive like that ya. Even then I feel like the Rebellion would be more then willing to deploy at least a few of them (the more suicidal cells at least) but that would explain what the main reason is they dont use it for.

To bad that isnt stated at all so fans are forced to make up crazy head canon to explain it away.
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>>77427492
more fucking rebellion? wasnt the war like fucking over in return of the jedi? cause you know, that's what happened.
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>/tv/ chimpping out
>again

>>77427465

msw spoilers said nothing about finn using the saber as maz's castel. there are probably some pretty big holes.
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>>77427513
I want this jacket to wear the premier. Where can I get it??
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>>77427465
Reminder we have more footage coming tomorrow during Girl Meets World
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>>77427413
>>77427492
I'd personally go with "burns out major components after a handful of shots."

They only brought up the hyperdrive drain, but there could be plenty of other major problems on Quarrie's list of necessary "adjustments."
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>>77427567
WHAT TIME?!
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>>77427587
8:30 pm EST
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What annoyed me about the latest episode of Rebels was how we suddenly got all this character background out of the blue. There was zero indication in past episodes that Hera had had some dream of flying ever since she was a child, but then suddenly exposition. That sort of thing needs to be hinted at and built up over the course of the show. You can still have your background dumping speech, but you have to at least imply earlier that such a speech is possible.

Kallus realising how fucked they were when the B wing flew straight at them though was pretty good. Also Hera's lekku physics.
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>>77427513

Heh.
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>>77427512
What? You know the Galactic Civil War had battles before and after the Battle of Endor?

Battles that had the super B-Wing (or more precisiely the super laser, who gives a shit about the B-Wing when you have that laser) could have allowed the Rebel Alliance to give the Empire a solid ass beating in any battle.

What do you mean by "more Rebellion"? We are talking about the soon to be and later the Rebel Alliance

No the war was not over in Return of the Jedi, the war continued a few months later. Even so how does that change the fact that the Rebellion could have used this laser before and during Endor.


And as stated, the war did not end at Endor, it continued for months afterwards (in new canon at least) which doesnt change the fact it could have been useful during and before Endor

>>77427583
A fine idea, anything more then 2 shots could be crippling to a dangerous degree for the pilot and machine. The problem is that it is not listed so the only down side the show presents is "It cant hyperdrive" which the show immedietly shows that is a "well who gives a shit" problem.

To make any sense of why we never see the laser again we need to make up things that are not mention at all to explain it.
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>>77427660
If I was Quarrie I would be even more put off by the fact that this woman made up a war backstory/speech right on the spot just to try to persuade me to get my ship.

It's super cheesy. But somehow, it worked when it shouldn't have. Kind of like Hera's lekku physics.
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>>77427660
Eh, they've been doing that with everyone so far. It's the price to pay for contained episodes instead of the multi-episode arcs from TCW. Remember how natural Kanan's grievances with clones came across in the Seelos two-parter because they had more time to go over it. Zeb being one of the last of his kind and Sabine's past on Mandalore got similarly brief mentions as Hera's last episode exposition as a small shot at developing them more. I really wish the episodes were longer. Remember Justice League having hour-long episodes? Even when they were bad episodes, I loved having so much time to experience them.
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>>77427746
Well, Kanan's clone-hate was also easy to fit into our existing knowledge of Order 66 and RotS. But I know what you mean.
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This is the year I watch the Holiday Special in its entirety
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>>77427831
Have something else to watch/do during the agonizingly long song and dance numbers. It takes up a good third of the special.
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>>77427660
Well she did say to Kanan that the clones/republic saved billions of lives including her own in the The Lost Commanders.
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>>77427513
I'm actually looking forward more to this than Finn vs Kylo, strangely enough. I really wanna see what Finn's got on a relatively level playing field.
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>>77427938
This is probably what causes the "oh shit" moment
>come get some punk, I fought those riot guards and kicked their asses, you want a piece of- OH FUCK FUCK ABORT
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>>77427938
He'll briefly fend off Kylo before Kylo easily takes the upper hand and stabs him.

My guess based on all the trailers/teasers/tv spots so far and artwork on a collectors cup for a theater.
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>>77427846
The only one remotely entertaining is the Bea Arthur one, and even there the sheer novelty of Bea Arthur being in it has worn off by the time it starts.
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>set a blockade in a planet
>only a few Impy ships
>rebels go right through them instead going around them or at least go from it from the other side of the planet
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>>77427660
>Kallus realising how fucked they were

He had some great faces this episode. From super smug to ruh-roh, I dun goofed.

The rest of the episode was pretty bad.
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>>77428202
Why do people not know hoe Hyperspace works? The blockade was on that side of the planet because it was either the only or most likely place the rebels would appear out of Hyperspace. Hyperspace travel requires you use predictable lanes of travel so you don't die slamming into an asteroid or blow up in a star. And the blockade can intercept any attempts to go around them.
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>>77428252
Not that guy, but the rules of Hyperspace have never been explained in detail to us in both TCW or Rebels.
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>>77428252
Why not make a temporary hyperspace tunnel that they can collapse? You lack imagination, anon.
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>>77428252
I think the big problem is that we only see 5 ships. Doesnt really give the feeling of a blockade when we compare it to say TPM where the planet is surrounded by battleships.

Maybe if there was 5 ships at each possible point of entry but we dont really see that (because it aint practical)

Maybe they could have said "can we go around?" "No, this is the only hyperspace lane we can reach from our sector
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>>77428097
>and stabs him.
Probably not. He'll get close to that, but Rey will likely intervene just in time
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>>77428270
Neither have VTOL spaceships, blasters, sound in space, deadly asteroid fields, or the Death Star laser. At some point, just assume there's a scifi reason for why something is happening the way it's happening.
>>77428288
and you racka disciprine.
>>77428305
Yeah, they could have said it. But remember, it's 5 ships and a bunch of TIEs against 2-3 ships and some A-wings. Kallus was lucky the Rebels only had such a small fleet available at the time.
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>>77428270
It was literally explained in ANH, by Han
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>>77428288
If the Rebels had that capability, the war would've been over before we reached ANH. Hyperspace doesn't run on Mass Relays, anon. You can't just will new lanes into existence. You can discover hidden hyperspace routes, like Han did with the Kessel Run, but that can take a while.
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>>77428358
Exactly what my issue with it being a "blockade"

I wish they simply called it something else. Simply an Imperial Task Force keeping order (or punishment)
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>>77428399
Speaking of which, I wonder if the Nexus Route will ever come up again
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>>77428288
It's not the Warp, dummy. Hyperspace is traveling really really fast along predictable, safe parts of space, not going through another dimension. You need to carefully calculate routes that don't slam into debris, asteroids, stars, planets, and other ships. It's the same space you started in, you're just running through it really quickly.
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>>77428358
Even so, I could see that blockade working if the Arquitens was fast enough. SW ships are decent sublight speeds, IIRC in ANH the X-Wings travel the distance from Yavin-4 to the Death Star in under fifteen minutes (like, under five minutes probably). The A-wing is much faster, and the Blockade Runner likely has some serious power for a ship it's size (is that a capital ship).

On the Imperial Side, I think we could assume that while Tie Intercepters weren't a thing yet, Tie Fighters could either launch from the planet's surface or disembark from other ships in time to meet the Blockade Runner (assuming Ties and X-Wings have equivalent speeds, which I'm primarily basing on the OT).

The Arquitens, which I don't know whether or not that model is particularly fast, had a great spread of fire and decent positioning. With SW speed, I think it's possible for five mid-size cruisers to form an effective orbital blockade to prevent any other mid-size cruiser from sneaking through. Feel free to prove me wrong, I think my argument's all sorts of shakey.

IIRC the Trade Federation in TCW achieved similarly understaffed blockades with 3-5 capital ships, but those CIS suckers were huge and often had carriers with thousands of droid fighters in them. You could easily cover all access points from orbit with those.
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>>77428371
Key word in detail. Han never said anything about the possibility of coming out of Hyperspace early and and flying around a planet to evade enemy ships.
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>>77428421
It still fits the definition of a blockade. Any other official name would just lead to the Rebels calling it a blockade because it's that kind of obstacle.
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>>77428427
Come to think of it, they never resolved that, did they? Tarkin knew half of it and Ahsoka knew the other half, and both had instructions to only give it to Palpatine/Jedi Council. Yoda said he would talk to Palpatine about it, but we never saw what happened with that.
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>>77428460
Knowing Yoda and Palpatine, I figure they probably agreed to keep the information separate for the sake of security, so neither of them would have the full information.

Of course Palpatine put "get the other half of the coordinates from Anakin's shitty little brat" on his to-do list, but given how long it is it probably would've been a while before he got around to it.
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>>77428448
I think an implied explanation was that it would be too hard for the ship's computer to figure out exactly when to jump, so you'd mostly have to pull out a jump blind. This is mostly guesswork though, because I think somebody does this in either Rebels and TCW and they come out mostly fine (if extremely disoriented).

On the flip side, we saw what happens when you hyperspace jump at random in TCW and you end up in some ass end of the galaxy.

>>77428449
I don't get why people would object to the use of the term "blockade". It's a blockade, just a small one with less ships.
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>>77428449
I guess technically. It is just weird consider TPM, like you really expect people to believe these 5 frigates are doing the same job as the countless battleships we saw in TPM?

Just weird
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>>77428460
>>77428489
Since we knew the Battle of Coruscant would've eventually been touched on towards the end of the show, I think the Nexus route would've eventually played a key part of it, with Sidious finally getting the full coordinates and giving them to Grievous so he could launch a surprise attack.
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>>77428427
>>77428460
>>77428489
>>77428522
Time to tweet Pablo.
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>>77428460
It can be inferred that Palpatine likely got both halves in the end and gave them to the Separatists, for the impending Battle of Coruscant. It's the only way to really explain the overly massive Separatist invasion fleet pockmarking the skies as they did, as well as the swiftness in which they kidnapped Palpatine.

The Jedi, knowing that the knowledge of the Nexus Route was supposed to be safely secure with Palpatine, likely launched their investigation of Palpatine's dealings in response, concluding that the Separatists wouldn't have been as successful as they were without that knowledge. If there were a chance that knowledge were comrpomised, the leak would have come from Palpatine's office.

Course, this wasn't explained in the movie, but I feel Obi-Wan and Anakin's briefing regarding the importance of the Nexus Route does a good enough job of putting things together.
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>>77428571
It would have made a cool TCW episode, where Yoda or somebody begins having suspicions and investigates. Or if somebody actually figures it out and gets Sheev'd before they can warn anybody else.
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Finn and Rey are Force-sensitives. Enough, people.
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>>77428599
That was actually the entire plot of Labyrinth of Evil. A damn good book.

The Republic gets proof that Darth Sidious is real and they begin a campaign to track him down. Eventually Palpatine is informed of this and realizes the Jedi are on to him so he plans the Battle of Coruscant as a disguse to make the Jedi believe that the kidnapping of Palpatine was actually cover to rescue Sideous.

The Intelligence officer and Clone Commando unit searching for intel make it all way into the Senate Tower (as in they confirm the Sith Lord is indeed a Senator) before they are killed by either Grevious or Sheev, not clear on who.

The book literally ends with Anakin and Obi-wan ordering their fleet to return to Coruscant as the battle is already underway.
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>>77428599
Wouldn't have minded an aftermath of the battle episode - since they were apparently going to go through the events of RotS from multiple perspectives - showing the results of the battle, and the Jedi's growing concern over Palpatine's role in things. We'd see that Council meeting where they vet Anakin take on the responsibility of investigating Palpatine. This would amusingly be interspersed with the Palpatine's almost simultaneously vetting Anakin as his representative on the Council.
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>the phantom now has a hyperdrive

Convenient.
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>>77428690
The idea would be that Palpatine is onto the Council's growing suspicions, as it'd be natural knowing the battle would have been impossible otherwise. So, as a means of gaining insight into the Council's state of mind, and throwing a wrench in whatever investigation they might have cooked up, he vets Anakin, his closest friend and confidant, as his personal representative on the Jedi Council.
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>>77428754
Except it always did? Hera takes it to meet Fulcrum that one time.
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>>77428826
It didn't.
It always had to be dropped off.
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>>77428826
Nah, it was installed just this episode.
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Is this the Legend of Korra of Star Wars?
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>>77428891
No.

It is a worthy addition to it. I do hope it stops trying to go all wink wink nudge nudge with the TCW callbacks
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>>77428536
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>>77429055
You're right, Pablo is a evil and not to be trusted. His twin brother Paul is the one we should seek for true knowledge.
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>>77425001
All the guns face forwards.

>entire fleet gets wrecked when they get flanked and shot to pieces because no ships weren't facing backwards

See what you did?
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>>77426419
B-Wings were always capital ship killers. I like this version better than 'they just have a lot of torpedos and magic computer-driven lasers!'
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>>77427413
>That 1 B-Wing in one shot was able to do more damage then a squadron of B-Wings firing Proton Torpedos.
How do you know? We've never seen B-wings do anything in the nucanon. Even their Devastator kill took place off-screen.
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>>77427465
>TIE fighter can't even kill something a meter away

A Predator drone would have splattered them
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>>77429355
At least one of them has Force Luck on their side, but possibly both.
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>>77428202
The IDEA is that ships are fast enough to detect and intercept any approach.
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>>77424966

Well, it is satisfying that TIE Fighters are no longer are armed with flashlights like in Rebels, but fuck, the 30-mm cannon on Apache helicopters has comparable effects on ground targers. Or the plot shielding of our politically correct MC pair deflected most of the blast, I don't know.
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>>77428891
No, no, this has Filoni in it, not Bryke. Filoni made Avatar good.
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>>77428500
>I guess technically. It is just weird consider TPM, like you really expect people to believe these 5 frigates are doing the same job as the countless battleships we saw in TPM?

Of course the real answer is fucking EU minimalism still going strong because thinking of plots where a team of 6 people can impact battles of proper SW-scale fleets is too hard and shit, so you are largely correct. But the Trade Federation fleet in the opening act of Ep.I was there as a political statement, not out of military necessity.
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>>77429381
Bryke was thought to be good until he fucked up his next project massively. Is Filoni fucking up Rebels writing not the same?
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>>77429405
The writing is literally the same

Look, I've been watching this shit from season one since I was eighteen, believe me, this has never been the Great Coruscanti Novel.
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Currently watching Season 2 Episode 6, the droid factory on Geonosis.

Some of that stuff is pretty heavy for a supposed kids-show. Burning Geonosians on screen with flamethrowers? Daymn, boys.

Except for the very very shitty and truly terrible, not even remotely fitting lemur-two-parter I really do enjoy the whole series and from what you guys say, it's only getting better.

The occasional extreme stupidity is okay, even if some plots could be completely avoided with a single little force push or the like. But the Force isn't really that consistent in this series, so eh, whatever.

The Gozilla/King-Kong Zillo-Beast-episodes were hilarious and actually well done with some nice Sheev-parts.
Looking forward to the rest of the series.
Tripfag, out.
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>>77429414
It was never this childish and jobby though. It was always a kids show, sure, but they were never this bad about hundreds of shots missing everything all the time as the main characters literally stand in plain sight. Not to mention the plots never this predictable and obvious.
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>>77429337
Because we know what B-Wings are armed with

their lasers are the going to do less damage then an X-Wing (3vs4 lasers), their Ion-Canon dont do damage, and they are armed with the same torpedoes X-Wings and Y-Wings are armed with.

Proton Torpedos arnt god killers. They always needed concentrated fire and a squadrons worth of fighters just to break the shields of an ISD. Forget about killing one. The thing about B-Wings is they could hold more Torpedoes as opposed to Y-Wings who could hold more to X-Wings.

So yes we saw this 1 B-Wing do more damage in 1 shot then what a squadron of starfighters should be able to do using Proton Torpedoes. (Lets not forget Proton Torpedoes cost money and have a limited supply of them)
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>>77427689
>Battles that had the super B-Wing (or more precisiely the super laser, who gives a shit about the B-Wing when you have that laser) could have allowed the Rebel Alliance to give the Empire a solid ass beating in any battle.

Not really. That the super B-Wing managed to knock out an equivalent of a Coast Guard patrol boat in a single shot does not mean it would be more effective against ships meant to participate in actual frontline combat, like Star Destroyers, never mind Star Battleships. The role of fighters as far as could be deduced from films always had been mere support - swarm around the enemy fleet in hopes to exploit any small shield breach that bombardment from your own capital ship might create, like how happened with the Executor. Or fly special missions, as with Death Stars runs or boarding the Invisible Hand. In the only case when a fighter squadron is actually tasked with sinking a conventional capital ship (in TPM) they clearly were going to fail miserably if not for Anie's mad Force luck. In such cases, reliability of your weapons is more important than briefly giving greater sheer output that will bounce off shields of any significant target in any case.
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>>77429431
Please, anon, I remember when everyone was complaining about battle droids and clones not being able to hit shit.
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>>77429431
You never watched the original films? The storm troopers didn't hit shit then either.
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>>77428358
>VTOL spaceships

REPULSORLIFTS

Seriously, magical kinetic vector generators solve everything
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>>77429440
Clones and droids killed eachother a lot, but just the visual aspect of the battle aside, the whole crew never feels like it's in any danger of ever losing. Clone Wars had plenty of back and forths between the sides with lots of "victories at a high price".
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>>77429453
Lots of the crew on the death star assault got butchered by Tie fighters, and I don't even mean Vader, I mean normal ties. And at least most of the time the crew has the decency to take cover and pretend like they're under fire. In Rebels, no one gives a flying fuck how much fire is happening. Kanan in the first episode steps out into live fire for like 10 seconds before pulling his light saber, Sabine spends the entire first part of the finale running around a place with like 20 storm troopers firing at her and still finds time to stop and taunt them.
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>>77429453
He'll just go for the usual "b-but Vader told them to miss!" excuse which not only doesn't justify their poor aim everywhere else, but also doesn't really hold up when you realize that the minimal response to their escape was what let them get away, not every last trooper and pilot intentionally failing.
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>>77429427
>Except for the very very shitty and truly terrible, not even remotely fitting lemur-two-parter

It seems to me that most of the complaints about that two-parter are based on either confusing presenting an idea with supporting it.
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>>77428399
>You can't just will new lanes into existence.
NOTHING IS BEYOND THE FORCE! I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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>>77429439
A patrol boat? At a minimum that thing was a destroyer. It was big enough to carry 4 TIE Fighters. This means it should have decent enough shielding that you would need anyone from 8-12 fighters to destroy it in one pass. (An ISD need 12 just to penetrate the shields, forget about serious damage)


Also The roll of starfighters is similar to WW2 Pacific theater fighting. A Single fighter is not a threat but a squadron of fighters armed with Torpedoes (see why they are called that?) is suppose to be a threat to the enemy ship. This is from the words of George Lucas, Star Wars was always WW2 in space. Just watch the way X-Wing fly or how similar the Falcon vs TIE fight in ANH is to a B-17 defending itself. Also they even say in the show that the entire point of the B-Wing is to destroy capital ships.

So we have the super laser that can penetrate capital ships (likely a frigate at minimum) shields and destroy said ship. Fire this laser a few times and you could kill an ISD in a few shots.

Meanwhile you need a wing of starfigthers to do similar damage? You are actually supporting my point, that the cost effectiveness of 1 super laser (forget the B-Wing) is so radically superior to Proton Torpedoes that it is straight up horrifying. The show radically fucked up and the only way to fix it is for fans to say stuff like "well maybe the super lasers has a 25% to blow up in the pilots face" otherwise that laser should be thrown on every ship possible.
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>>77429484
It's just poorly presented. Tee Watt Kaa is an idiot.
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>>77429484
It's not just the idea behind the episode. I understand that. It's the whole package.
The message is put together badly and in some parts the constant hippie-music in the background really distracts from what could have been a good scene.
The pacing is pretty weird as well and the only thing that I enjoyed about it were the Takei-parts. Truly enjoyable.
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Why don't they just take Ibaar and push it somewhere else?
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Here's a simple test. Tell me one time in Rebels where they go against the Empire and don't escape purely to luck of someone being a bumbling idiot on the Empire's side.
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>>77428305
If they begin to justify everything that doesn't make sense the episodes would last twice as long, realism is the price to pay to have those space battle and space monks.
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>>77429519
This episode.
They barely got away.
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>>77429519
Their escapes were the will of the Force.
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>>77429524
"No, pay no mind at all to that never before seen aircraft with unknown fire power! We can't spare a single ship to even try and stop it!"
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>>77429545
I'm talking about the beginning of the episode.
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>>77429055
Will he one day be able to drink his coffee without being interrupted ?
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Well. I appear to have reached a horror/zombie-episode. With body-parts chopped off from moving corpses. That's gruesome and pretty well done.
I mean. Geonosian zombies and Clones in the dark. The script must have written itself.
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>>77429522
Please, the problem here is a fix that takes almost no time to fix.

A single bit of dialogue at the end saying the laser is simply too dangerous is all you need. Or the laser destructed in mid battle and the engineer is unsure he can reconstruct it because it took trial and error and luck the first time.


If you want a better story (but more costly) you can drop the laser and focus it on the idea that the Rebel fleet simply lacks anyship good and killing capitals (A-Wings are terrible at that job) so an engineer could offer 4-8 B-Wings armed with their TRADITIONAL weapons (which they even mentioned they are armed with in the episode) and simply have them concentrate fire.

The fleet is happy because now they have something that could harm capital ships in a reasonable time, the intro to the B-Wing is satisfying that is saves the day, and everything remains lore friendly
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>>77429484
It is not usually fun to deal woth a character who is a stubborn moron
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>>77429437
So what? A proton torpedo bombardment would have offed those light cruisers too.

And B-Wings aren't well-armed because of their number of laser cannons, it's because they're the size of a freighter and can put more power into their guns.
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>>77429503
>A patrol boat?

Yes.

>At a minimum that thing was a destroyer. It was big enough to carry 4 TIE Fighters.

Proper destroyers carry from 60 to 132, possibly much more, if an Imperator-sized destroyer is specced towards the carrier function to the point Venator is.

>(An ISD need 12 just to penetrate the shields, forget about serious damage)

An Imperator class probably needs several squadrons of fighters shooting at it for several-hours non-stop before starting to fear damage.

Remember, it took about 15 minutes of unceasing bombardment by the Rebel fleet at Endor before shields on Imperial ships had started to fail and the humongous wave of the Imperial fighters at the same battle, unsupported by capital ships because Palpie wanted his spectacle for Luke, had failed to cause any damage whatsoever to the Rebel capital ships.

>Also The roll of starfighters is similar to WW2 Pacific theater fighting.

Is not confirmed by actual content of the films.

Look, there are two proper fleet battles in the 6 episodes. At Coruscant, with numerous capital ships blowing up left and right, there is not a single example of a starfighter causing damage to a capital ship which main shield was not clearly fucked by that point. In fact, there is only one example of a fighter damaging a capital ship at all, Anakin blowing up the atmosphere containment shield on the Invisible Hand's hangar. At Endor the Executor only becomes vulnerable to fighter attack after the whole Rebel fleet explicitly concentrares fire on it and lucks out to cause a small shield breach in a very unfortunate place.
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>>77429549
And I'm talking about how they over came this challenge. They won by Kallus being an idiot again. If he had sent ties at it, then he would be seen as not only more competent but also given Hera a chance to show off what a good pilot she is. Instead we just left her alone entirely too blue up a whole ship.
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>>77429556
Yeah, they knocked that one out of the park. The Geonosians in general were made to feel like a legitimate threat, zombie or otherwise.
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>>77429503
Are you crazy? An Arquitens has barely a thousandth the mass or volume of an ISD.
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>>77429582
He did send TIEs.
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>>77429560
I don't know why you're being so autistic about this. A superlaser makes more sense for their actual intended role than their EU designation of 'shitty big bomber'.

Besides which a Y-wing squadron armed with torpedos can and have take down ships bigger than that size.
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We're going to be hearing people bitch about how the Empire isn't depicted as a super elite unstoppable military force all season, aren't we?
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>>77429650
>We're going to be hearing people bitch about how the Empire isn't depicted as a super elite unstoppable military force forever, aren't we?
ftfy
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>Pablo implying that Gregor and Wolffe repaired the AT-AT and are now riding around in it

Joy.
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>>77429650
It took ages for them to shut up about Kanan walking towards stormtrooper fire (which someone just had to drudge up again), so yeah, we're probably going to hear them bitching about the Empire losing for the entire run of the series.
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>>77429593
>Arquitens
Honsetly I didnt even know these things had shown up before. Thanks for saying the name I was able to look it up and now see why >>77429573 called it a Patrol Boat

>>77429573
And ISD has a crew of 30000. A Venator 10,000

>An Imperator class probably needs several squadrons of fighters shooting at it for several-hours non-stop before starting to fear damage.
And with that Im done with this conversation as clearly you dont actually understand anything about navel combat in Star Wars. Hell you see in TCW plenty of episodes that prove you wrong like the Ryloth arc alone.


>>77429617
You are finally starting to see what my issue is. The Superlaser is clearly more efficient then torpedoes. Torpedoes require squadrons of ships to take an enemy ship down. Here we find this super laser that is designed with the intention of destroying capital ships (which is what the engineer says. The laser is a capital ship killer) So why is this laser no longer standard armament on the B-Wing, in fact, why is the laser not being thrown on ships like corvettes that would be able to house the weapon without drawbacks to the hyperdrive? This laser is incredibly powerful to just disappear without a trace. It also has no reason to exist as we know bombers like the Y-Wing when flown in a squadron can take down capital ships so the episode should have been about that, get a squadron of bombers to do the job of destroying capital ships like Y-Wings or B-Wings. Instead we get a B-Wing armed with a superlaser that is drastically more efficient then a squadron of bombers but for some reason the laser complete disappears after this. They are solving a problem that doesnt need to be solved and in the process they are creating a plothole.

They should have stated why this laser never appears again because it is clearly superior to proton torpedoes.
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>>77429675
A few of us joked that they probably did that, so it was cool to see it confirmed. Now if he would just confirm that the AT-AT Driver that got left behind ended up joining them, that would be just dandy.
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Okay, part two of the zombie-episodes and holy shit, posessed Clones are really really freaky. I would not have expected something like this at all.
Nose worms that turn their host into willing zombie-servants. Not something I would have expected from anything Star Wars related, especially not a 'kids'-show.

I like it.
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>>77429650
"The Rebel Alliance is too well equipped. They're more dangerous than you realize."
"Dangerous to your Starfleet, Commander, not to this battle station."

It's in the very first film, even. FFS even the old EU seemed to forget this at times.
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>>77429650
It's kinda hard to take them seriously when they keep losing to a bunch of teenagers.
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>>77429503
>At a minimum that thing was a destroyer. It was big enough to carry 4 TIE Fighters.

Actually, the blockade was using Gozantis for that, the Arquitens don't have docking clamps for anything beyond a shuttle.

I'm amused that the ep guide used the phrase "Star Destroyers" to describe them. In nu-canon, we have dreadnoughts like the Executor, battlecruisers like the Pride of Tarlandia, mainline cruisers like the Venator and Imperial and now light cruisers like the Arquitens, all given that moniker somewhere. They seem to have retconned "Super Star Destroyer" into only meaning things like the Executor, though.
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>>77429687
You never see the damn things do anything in Endor, the episode states that they're still equipped with torpedoes, you don't know what they're equipped with on Endor and even their Devastator kill took place off-screen in the short stories.


The hyperdrive problem was just because it was a prototype, and a properly equipped bomber would have been able to do the exact same thing. It's just a different focus of weaponry.

> in fact, why is the laser not being thrown on ships like corvettes that would be able to house the weapon without drawbacks to the hyperdrive?
Range dissipation dropoff. They only ever use the superlaser on absurdly close-range combat passes. Putting it on a less maneuverable corvette at the expense of other cannons is impractical.

>>77429718
What, like in ANH?
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Okay, damn.
Seems to me like season 2 is much much darker and heavier than season 1 ever was. Is this a trend that will continue?
Because I like it. It's much more serious and interesting.

Please tell me that I did not just reach the best point of the series and now it's all downhill.
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>>77429815
The best is yet to come. We get even more dark.
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>>77429815
You're still watching one of the weaker seasons. It will get much better in and after season 3.
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>>77429815
Three and on is usually good. I also like the Yoda spiritual arc capping off season 6, it's an overall good finish to the show itself.
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>>77427465
And MSW is right again. Rey gets her blaster from Han.
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So we're finally going to see competent stormtroopers in the new movie!
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>>77425683
at this point nobody thinks Phasma will do much in this movie, right
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>>77430331
Well she is the Boba.
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>Mandalore would never turn against the republic
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>77430331
I never thought she would do much in this movie since Kylo Ren is the more important enforcer. But at least they won't give her a pathetic death scene.
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>>77430331
Phasma did nothing wrong and is a pure robot
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>>77430331
It's Star Wars. All the women will do is get kidnapped and make shitty jokes.
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>>77430388
Or they might loose their will to live!
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>>77430324
Seems the gun works as an electrostaff too
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>>77430401
It's like a tonfa.
We know how that turns out.
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>>77430388
I want Phasma to mak shitty jokes but she'll probably have two lines tops

I also fully expect some dumb theories about those nightsticks/tonfas being amazing pureblood mando tech and holy shit guys it was all mandos all along, fighting the opression perpetuated by jedi!
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>>77430425
Turns out JJ never even touched the script and it was all written by Karen Traviss.
Oya manda!
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>>77430425
>but she'll probably have two lines tops

Her toy has 4 lines:

“Move to your ships, now.”:
“On my command…”:
“Fire, FN2187.” (Probably said to Finn)
“Submit your blaster for inspection.”:

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-dialogue/
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>>77430401
I don't think it's the gun, looks too long.
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>>77430479
Looks like the gun from the heavy gunner
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We tactical now.
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http://wolfmaw.tumblr.com/post/133122406337/aphiiid-the-mahiro-theorem-he-force-pushed
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>>77430515
I can never unsee :3
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>>77426939
>HA. Fucking finally, I've been saying this forever

Still stupid and impractical. They were phased out for a reason.
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>>77426876
He probably hacks away like Luke on Jabba's sail barge.
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>>77430691

Dat female snowtrooper );
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>>77430331
I'm hoping she survives the movie at least.
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>>77430774
It's like making a crossguard out of blades. It would have made sense to make it out of cortosis, or other materials that are resistant to lightsaber strikes.
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>>77431062
But they're vents though.
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>>77430905
So Djem So basically?
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>>77431067
Vents for what? I don't even know what 'raw power vented' means. Did he make his lightsaber using Chinese instructions or what?
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>>77431116
It's an old design.
Not as refined.
It's just the excess from the blade.
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>>77431693
new chapter of The Story Before The Force Awakens
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>>77431798
>"Leia's" face

Has whoever drew this even seen Star Wars before?
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>>77431871
It's a gook.
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Anyone else love these silly things?
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>>77431897
They sounded cool as fuck
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>>77431871
nobody in it really looks like the actors, but it's made to appeal to a korean audience. still looks good though
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>>77431693
What is this?
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>>77432041
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>>77432041
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>>77432052
the korean webcomic (which is canon)
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>>77432075
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>>77432077
I thought it was just a retelling of ANH. Does it include other stuff?
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>>77432089
it's a retelling of the entire OT, they're up to the beginning of RotJ now. but there are occasionally some new scenes, like adapted deleted scenes or flashbacks like with young vader. the first few chapters have the most new elements with young luke and ESB has a few new scenes of yoda training luke
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>>77432108
Is it going to continue past RotJ?
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>>77432129
don't think so. i'm hoping that the artist continues to do something star wars related though. i'd love to see a PT adaptation but i doubt that would happen. more likely if they rehire him it would be for a TFA adaptation i guess
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Anyone have Insider #161?
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I think we're going to see either Interceptors or Defenders in Rebels soon. They'll be looking to use an upgraded TIE, judging by Kallus's reaction to the B-Wing.
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>>77432088
Say what you will about, but it offers some great reaction faces.
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>>77432307
most definitely
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>>77432296
>I think we're going to see either Interceptors or Defenders in Rebels soon

Does it really matter? It's not like they'll actually win against the rebels anyways. To be honest, I hope I don't see the things I like coming into this show, imperial wise, because they'll be nerfed all to hell.
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>>77432582
>I hope I don't see the things I like coming into this show, imperial wise, because they'll be nerfed all to hell.


well I hope you don't like interdictors
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>>77425290
>Wookiee village on KOTOR

I still have nightmares about that section.
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>>77432653
I do, and I know what happens to one of them in the show.

>MFW I seen the promo shot.
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>>77432733
>>77432653
To be fair, it looks like it's going to fuck shit up for at least the first part of the episode, just like the TIE's in the recent episode.

Damn shame that they've fallen into the "good guys always find a way to win" trope. TCW was pretty good at avoiding it, and the victories always felt justified.
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>>77432811
>"good guys always find a way to win" trope
This is what's annoying. I don't mind the Rebels winning, but the wins they get seem contrived and easy. There is no worry when I see the Rebels in a bad situation, because they always get out of the mess with ease.
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>>77430464
All the toys have really shitty lines, though.
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>>77432900
This. The last three episodes have been better than most because the Rebels actually had to struggle to accomplish something/get away alive. The latest episode is also the weakest because the solution is basically a Deus Ex Machina.
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>>77432900
Yeah the one time the Rebels lost in Season 1 was easily the most exciting episode, where Tarkin and Inky capture Kanan. It was exciting, tense, you didn't know who was going to make it. Everyone said the show was finally looking up, but sadly, after Seige of Lothal, it dropped in quality again.

Its an enjoyable show, but I feel like they're getting held back. Maybe by Disney, or maby they're just trying to build up slowly like they did with TCW.
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>>77432933
>Deus Ex Machina.
YOU JUST HAD TO SAY IT
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>>77432944
>Maybe by Disney
Nah, Disney ain't doing this, it's the writers. Maybe they are saving the real hardship for the Rebels in the last few episodes of the season?
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>>77427583
Another possibility is that building, calibrating, and maintaining the laser is just too much of a headache. If it turns out to only be like a three-shot wonder on top of already being a hanger queen, I could see the rebellion trying to re-purpose the weapon elsewhere but finds its too expensive to justify on single fighters.
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>>77427660
I'm kind of annoyed at how boring Hera is. You'd expect her to at least just ask the guy what was wrong about her so he could point out a few flaws. But that's the problem, we haven't seen any flaws yet at all. And that's why she's boring.
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>>77433060
Surely the big flaw is that she's a frigid bitch.
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What the hell kind of name is Pablo Jill?
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>>77428690
I love this imagine.

I can't look at it without seeing Darth Sidious and Darth Vader. There is no Anakin or chancellor
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>>77428891
It is far less abominable, but there are similar issues with a lack of earned failure being acknowledged.
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>>77429699
told you anon. TCW saves and uplifts the entire Prequel era
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>>77429699
I'm really glad to see you're enjoying it.

It's nice when people talk about what they enjoy in Star Wars rather than bitch about stuff they dont.
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>>77429582
>Kallus being an idiot again
This is a really weird (and lazy) development. The guy used to be a legit threat, even in 1-on-1 combat, and now he's doing retarded shit like turning down an orbital strike and sending in three walkers for no reason. It's less efficient, risks Imperial resources needlessly, and offers an opportunity for escape (even if a slim one). It's also a hell of a lot slower to set up. He wasn't even trying to take the Jedi alive, either. There was zero excuse for what he did.
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>Supreme Leader Snoke is quite an enigmatic character, and strangely vulnerable at the same time as being quite powerful," the actor teases. "Obviously he has a huge agenda. He has suffered a lot of damage. As I said, there is a strange vulnerability to him, which belies his true agenda."
>It is very much a newly-introduced character. He’s aware of what’s gone on, in the respect that he has been around and is aware of prior events. I think it’d be fair to say that he is aware of the past to a great degree."
>"The scale of him, for instance, is one reason. He is large. He appears tall. And also just the facial design – you couldn’t have gotten there with prosthetics. It’s too extreme. Without giving too much away at this point, he has a very distinctive, idiosyncratic bone structure and facial structure. You could never have done it [in real life.]"
>still believing hes not plagueis
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>>77433284
well a lot of that sounds like it would fit plagy but he also says he is a NEW character and his name so far is Snoke... Those could bee Jar Jar Abrhams ruses tho...
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>>77433284
Hey guys my dad works at Lucasfilms and he tells me that Episode II will be about a Mandalorian invasion of the Republic. Also Obi-Wan is a clone and he has a love triangle with Padme and Anakin in Attack of the Clones and he's also Luke's real dad.
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>>77432950
Well, I'm not wrong. In fact this is probably the most literal manner it's ever been used for this show.
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>>77433249
>This is a really weird (and lazy) development.
Don't I know it, I thought he was being hampered by Lothal's backwater Stormtroopers, apparently this isn't the case. Kallus was actually more of a threat on Lothal than he is now, in his own element.
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>>77433335
omg is this legit????
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>>77433083
The writers surely don't think that's a flaw. In fact, I'd bet they haven't actually come up with a single flaw to give her character. They couldn't come up with one if they tried.
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>>77429617
>We will never see production values like this in Rebels
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>>77424966
Speaking of commercials

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__CTejhHZSU

Holy shit, Rey confirmed for Jedi little girl! Gets green saber! Finn confirmed he's really a white suburban kid! The Force is powered by D batteries!
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>>77433060

Have you read A New Dawn? She has plenty of flaws. Primary one is her devotion to the rebel cause over her own feelings and family/comrade bonds, which can make her seem colder than she actually is. That's something the show has explored before, even in this episode where she ordered the blockade runner forward instead of retreating on the slight chance it could make it, costing lives.
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>>77433454
It really isn't explored that well. The only time it's really come up was when the Inquisitor caught Kanan and Ezra had to convince her to go after him. And no one actually disagreed about her retarded tactics except for Kanan. No one else really saw a problem with it; in fact, she and everyone else but her hubby seemed to think she was critical to the success of the mission, even though all she really did was tell the runner to keep going (and got everyone on it killed). What a strategist, surely Phoenix squadron couldn't function without her. She did more to help in the B-Wing that she ever could have in a command position.
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>>77433386
Updating the Wook and MSW right now.
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is it canon that there were over 1 million civilians aboard the 1st death star at the time of the destruction, or was that just part of the EU?
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THE STAR WARS UPRISING CHAPTER 2 HYPE TRAIN


WHERE IS IT

HAS IT LEFT THE STATION


DID EVERYBODY MISS IT
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>>77433241
If it will make you feel any better we can argue about whether the worms were some form of larval geonosian laid by the queen in special eggs.

Honestly it does get a tad muddled trying to figure out what they are. They're worm parasites used by the queens to create their zombie guards with their hive mind involved in some way, but when left on their own the worms are apparently highly intelligent and control their hosts to such an extent (or it's the difference between controlling living and dead beings) that they were able to use the Force after infesting Barriss. The worms apparently subscribe to the geonosian ideal and even use their language.

So are they different species? How are newborn worms so intelligent? Where does the hive mind fit in after the death (presumably) of that queen (who wasn't the only one of her kind, thanks to what we learned from the Vader comics)?

Why does it even matter? Probably doesn't but I hope the Empire was thorough when they sterilized Geonosis and made sure to get the worms too. Though it might be interesting to see another sterilized queen infesting people with the worms to create proxy children. A new hive by stealing the lives and minds of others.
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>>77433604
MSW?
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>>77433815
I don't remember the exact number, but I don't think it was that many.

>>77433851
Something to ignore.
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>>77433569

Kanan and Ezra have argued with her in several episodes over plans and actions, the whole crew has. What would you have suggested instead?
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>>77433832
I would be hype, but having to grind levels to play more of the story is annoying.

The bounty hunter stuff is cool though. dat flamethrower. So OP. (pls dont nerf kabam)
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>>77433815

Never heard of that number, but Lost Stars mentions that most of the personnel assigned to the Death Star were elite, and its destruction leaves the Empire with a major manpower shortage.
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>>77433815
2 Million people died on the Death Star.
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>Newest episode of Rebels
Why didn't they just jump in from the other side of the planet? The Imperial "blockade" was only like three cruisers.
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>>77434001
Anon can't into hyperspace lanes.
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>>77434001
Is this a meme now?
Surely people aren't asking genuinely.
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>>77434001
Do you have any idea how fast travel is in hyperspace?
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>>77434028
It pretty much is yeah.

Our own shitty /tv/ meme.
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So is it safe to assume this is TFA's basic structure

>Jakku nighttime village raid
>Finn and Poe escaping.
>Jakku daytime chase
>Maz Katana's pirate palace
>Resistance headquarters
>Ice planet finale
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>>77433894
Her not be right every single time? Have her actually struggle with something. At the very least she should have acted a bit put-off by the mechanic guy saying she wasn't the right kind of pilot. Instead it's the other two who she ends up calming down. She's the kind of person who doesn't get the least bit panicked at seeing an Imperial Star Destroyer when even Han Solo recognizes how screwed he is. I think the first real glimmer of actual character was when she lost the blockade runner and was beating herself up over it.
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I've just started to play Jedi Academy and holy shit is this guy just the worst or what? Please tell me he dies.
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>>77434100
>>Ice planet finale
That's Starkiller Base, but that sounds right basically.
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>>77434147
You get a chance to kill him yourself, Anon. That's after you kick his incompetent ass (that's already being propped up by others because he's a fuck-up) at least once.
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>>77433851
Making Star Wars. The website that provided us with leaks and an accurate plot synopsis for TFA.
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>>77434100
Yes, but the Resistance Headquarters and Maz Kanata's castle are probably on the same planet.
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>>77434185
>You get a chance to kill him yourself, Anon
But is that after he turns evil or is it a Dark Side choice? Because if it's the latter I'm going to be mad.
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>>77434255
It's both, Anon, I'm sorry. If it's any consolation, if you let him live he still loses his hand and admits he was being a little bitch.
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New ew article about the Starkiller and General Hux: http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/13/star-wars-starkiller-base-general-hux?hootPostID=2e25dce99e219a1c5784bb8680d772d0

>Domhnall Gleeson (Ex Machina), who plays the young military leader, says this commander of the First Order is defined by arrogance and contempt. “There’s an air of superiority, and being better than those people around you,” he says. “He’s pretty ruthless. A strong disciplinarian would be a mild way of putting it.”
>This galactic junta operates a little like the mafia. You kill your way to the top.
>“You don’t get that high up in your life that quickly unless you’re pretty ruthless,” says Gleeson, who’s 32. “You have to put a few people down on the way to get there.” The actor also says Hux doesn’t carry a signature weapon: he has other people to do such dirty work.
>His disdain for idiosyncrasy applies to allies, too. You might assume the cold, calculating General Hux would be on good terms with Kylo Ren, Adam Driver’s emotion-driven, Darth Vader-obsessed enforcer for the First Order. But you’d be wrong. There is tension in the ranks of the leadership. Consider them… frenemies.

I think that's pretty interesting. Kylo and Hux are like enemies which is a nice inversion of the Vader/Tarkin relationship in the old Empire.
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>>77434313
>>77434255
Thank god for quick save/quick load.
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>>77426495
>These aren't the EU B-Wings, buddy.

although they still name-dropped Project Shantipole.
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>>77434317
>Abrams says it’s only logical that this new generation of Imperial wannabes would consider the failure of their idols to be a lack of ambition. If they’re going to succeed where Darth Vader and the Emperor failed, they’re going to have to demonstrate that they are even more menacing and destructive.

>“Evil’s a little bit like a drug,” Abrams says. “It takes more and more of it to have the same effect. And I think the First Order is a really deadly drug.”

hmm
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>>77434130

Like how trusting Lando nearly got her enslaved? Or how her keeping Fulcrum and rebel info from her crew caused tension among them? She's fucked up before and isn't always right. Unlike early asoka.
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>>77434313
FUCK, I knew they wouldn't let me kill him, the fuckers. At least he gets maimed.
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>>77434375
She easily got away from the drooling fatass and then forgave Lando for some unknown reason. As far as the Fulcrum thing goes, compared to how much "learning" the rest of the crew (sand Sabine) have to go through, that's barely anything.
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>>77434339

Yeah, it was satisfying to go back and kill him. The final boss of that choice soured it a little, cause he was definitely holding back.
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>>77434028
Why not? It's a fair enough question, at least realistically. Obviously realism takes a huge backseat for space fantasy genre, and also for story reasons. These discussions were far more common back in TCWs, of course, since they did the whole blockade thing in several arcs. Frankly I'm surprised Rebels actually gave us one!

And also that Phoenix is willing to throw all their transports into this. No command ship and 1 of their 3 blockade runners are dead. Phoenix Squad itself has lost so many A-Wings and apparently cannot replace them or their pilots.

That's what surprised me about the anon saying that Hera is too faultless. She got the entire crew of that blockade runner and Phoenix Leader killed throwing them at a superior force, then immediately wanted to throw what they had left into the meat grinder. Though I'll concede the episode doesn't play this as a fault since everyone else in Phoenix was willing to rush ahead into a situation that would almost certainly prove a suicide mission.
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>>77427583

This is retarded. I'm glad I stopped watching this shit.
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>>77434317

So they are now space mafia.

Wow, great. Keep making Empire just dumb evil thugs.
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>dude what
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>>77434668
>Wow, great. Keep making the bad guys act like bad guys.
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>>77434751
Should've hander her over a DL-44.
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>>77434751
>Uncle Han, where's my daddy?
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>>77434751
>here take a swig from this
>han that's a blaster
>fuck! i hate getting old
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>>77434821
"Off losing his mind kid, its hereditary. I'm sorry"
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>>77433304

I think JJ said at one point that some character names will not be their actual names, and so far, I think the major named character who we know nothing off aside from Luke, is Snoke.
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>>77434795
Giving her one of her Grandmothers chromed up jobs.
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>>77426939
It's actually more interesting if you remember the darksaber from TCW is also an ancient lightsaber design. So it's more evident they were earlier stranger lightsaber designs before the Jedi/Sith standarized them.
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>>77433284
>And also just the facial design – you couldn’t have gotten there with prosthetics
>he has a very distinctive, idiosyncratic bone structure and facial structure. You could never have done it [in real life.]"

Which is why it's probably not Plagueis since prosthetics can pull it off Muuns especially if you use the action figure design.
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>>77434930
I wonder if Protosabers will be recanonized. I always thought they were a bit silly though, since you wouldn't be able to fight very effectively with a cord in your way.
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>>77434778
>Wow keep making bad guys that didn't learn from their previous mistakes, especially when they idol them.

But seriously, them just killing their way to the top and having no skills other than backstabbing a person to get their job is what got the old Empire in the mess it got into, and you would think the First Order would have learned from the mistakes of the past and try not to fall into the old Imperial mindset again.

The First Order is just the Empire 2.0 but now even more fanatical ideology.
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>>77434558
>hat's what surprised me about the anon saying that Hera is too faultless

That anon here. That's what I mean. Anything we might see as a fault is glossed over in-universe so that effectively she can do no wrong.
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>>77434778

Yeah, because villains must always be dumb evil retards.
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Every new trailer makes me less hyped.

That Tie Fighter attacks scene is pathetic.
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>>77435148
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>>77435124
How is Hux a "dumb retard" exactly? Seems like an intelligent but ruthless asshole to me.
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>>77435168
What's with this mentality around here that if you're not hyped for TFA you're a no fun party pooper poopy head?
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>>77434989
Are you trolling or are you really that stupid? The First Order are supposed to be like neo nazis. You think they of all people would learn from history?
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>>77433284
this better not turn out to be some sort of totally-not-Vong shit
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>>77435168
I wanna nibble on those lekku
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>>77435278
i'd suck on a lekku
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>>77435168

Stop being a drone.

It must be amazing because it's Star Wars right? No criticism allowed. Please remember to buy Finn action figure.
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>>77435124
You're aware that backstabbing is the most common way to seize power in every single country in the world, right?
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>>77435212

I used to be really hyped.

Then we learned about another Tatooine, another Hoth, another Yavin, another Yoda and another Death Star.
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>>77435381
At least the "another Hoth and Death Star" are one in the same, so its a bit different.
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>>77435373

I sure remember all those politicians who got murdered by their rivals. Or all those generals who were murdered by other generals.

This is supposed to be a galactic empire. Not some 3rd world African pseudo army.

No wonder they keep getting their asses kicked.
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>>77435381
I think Maz Kanata could've been different from Yoda thanks to her castle but then it gets destroyed, so that's that.
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>>77435240
I expected a different type of villain, but it's just the same one we had before. Forgive me if I don't like seeing the same shit over and over again, now it just has a different paintjob.
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>>77435381
Don't fall for the trap, anon. They're doing location pottery so they can get bad publicity and more attention from angry fans. The plot's going to be almost completely different from ANH, but they're going to get nerds bitching about "all the locations are the same, therefore it sucks!" on the internet, giving the film more attention.

If they go with all new locations, no one will care.
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>>77435424
>our wise alien is even older than Yoda!
>our Death Star is even larger and can blow up stars!
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>>77435455

You saw JJ's Star Trek movies? It's going to be nothing but references and mindless action. And plot will make no sense.
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>>77435459
Comparing Maz to Yoda is a bit unfair, since we don't know either of their species or know how long they actually live. There could be entire planets of them that are as old without realizing it. It seems like a retarded move because they are the only two we know of so far with advanced age, but whatever.
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>>77434872
Well, luckily it seems to only effect the men in the family.
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>>77435487
>JJ wrote the Star Trek movies

Next you're gonna tell me he directed Cloverfield and all of LOST, right?
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>>77432060
DIO?!
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>>77435047
I don't know if I'd say glossed over so much as for whatever reason the show's writers think Phoenix will basically expend ever single one of their resources, including their own lives, to help people. It doesn't even need to be a tactical reason to help people or overall benefit the fight against the Empire. People are in trouble and they will Leroy Jenkins their way in and either help the people or die.

Morally it's a good mark on their character. Tactically, strategically, and even from a sanity standpoint it's total bunk.
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>>77435352

I didn't call him a faggot cause he thinks the movie is bad, the movie might be bad.

I called him a faggot cause he thought the TIE scene looked like shit.
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>>77435437
The First Order isn't a galactic Empire anymore. They are remnants of the old Empire and are probably more radical and fanatical in their beliefs and methods. It's supposed to be a fascist dictatorship and pretty much resembles regimes like North Korea, Cambodia under the khmer rouge, the USSR under Stalin, Chile under Pinochet, nazi germany etc.
You think the leaders of these countries didn't dispose of their inner rivals to maintain their power?
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>>77433161
That cover is from the Jabiim arc in the Clone Wars Comics right ? That was the shit, it was nice to see the Republic facing humans for a change.
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>>77435352
Not that guy but people are going way out of their way to hate this movie based on very little. I just watched the recent TV ad after reading that the tie attack was pathetic. It was literally 2 seconds of footage with no context. It's like watching a trailer for say a martial arts movie, seeing one punch in a short clip and saying "the action is underwhelming"
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>>77435452
Hux doesn't really sound like Tarkin to me. Quite the opposite, actually.
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>>77433339
The biggest part is that there's no build up to a deus ex machina, dumbass. Like if Hera disappeared for the whole episode for no reason, never radioed in, we never saw or heard what she was doing, than appeared to save the day.
Though her leaving even implies she'll be back in time. Real deus ex machina's were, you know, gods from the machine:gods on a pulley-platform that would be lowered from the upper stage of an old Greek/roman play to wrap up a narrative out of fucking no where, because their gods are always present, you just can't see them. Real deus ex machina's are really rare, Internet memesters just spout off about them a lot.
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>>77435600

And it did.

Tie blasts the ground like 5m away from our heroes and they don't die.
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>>77435698
>upset because the heroes have plot armor
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>>77434147
One of the least resistible Dark Side choices in the games.
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>>77435352
The movie looks great, but if you can't stop bitching about it for like five minutes then don't watch it you faggot.
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>>77435698

you're mad about that?

boy I can't even imagine how you must feel about kanan and Ezra deflecting TIE shots with their lightsabers.

In the scene you're talking about Finn and Rey barely make it, hell Rey totally eats shit.
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>>77435698
>Obi-Wan gets blasted by the Slave 1 on Kamino nearly point blank and didn't die
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>>77435698
Laser aoe damage is widely inconsistent in SW. If you don't get physically hit by the laser, you probably won't be killed.
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>>77435760
>>77435771

That's dumb crap from cartoons and the worst Prequel movie. This movie was supposed to be better.
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>>77435760
Rebels is awful for that too and is a piece of shit as far as I'm concerned. But that's a kids cartoon show, this is a massive budget movie.
>>77435771
Using the prequels as comparison? Really? You want to go down that road of saying "this is ok because the prequels did it"?
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>>77435852
>>77435872
So autistic
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>>77435729
>>77435698
Fucking this
Too many people that have strong opinions about new Star Wars content but apparently haven't watched the OT in years, because they forget a shit ton of things and added their own headcanon accidentally thanks to human memory being shitty. I've seen someone fighting tooth and nail for something they thought happened, then someone posted a link to a clip from a new hope showing they misremembered and it never happened. That someone was me, and I've seen it happen a few times more.
Watch the movies annually or shut up about how good or bad something in Star Wars is. You'll compare it too the movies and make an ass of yourself when you forget they did the same damn thing. This isn't a criticism of any one post or poster, this a PSA.
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>>77435852
>>77435872
The OT heroes also had huge plot armor or they would've never been able to escape from the Death Star or to actually destroy it. Remember the scene where Vader fires at Lukes X-Wing before Han comes to save him? Have you ever complained about that?
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>>77435852
>>77435872
Jesus christ
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>>77435872
>>77435852
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>Where's Mara Jade?
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>>77435459
>>our Death Star is even larger and can blow up stars!

KJA beat them to it like 20 years ago with the Suncrusher.
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>>77436035
On my desk
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>>77435240
>The First Order are supposed to be like neo nazis.

No they are not.

In the story proper they are more comparable to Soviets in their political relationship with the New Republic and their obsession with ideology.
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>>77436064
I can't see it. Is it under all the dried semen?
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>>77436110
it's a complicated problem
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>>77434001
>>77434558
Flying through hyperpace is incredibly dangerous. Unless you have a specifically known route programmed into your navicomputer, you're probably going to die by plowing into a star, planet, black hole, etc. These known unobstructed paths are called hyperspace lanes.

If there is no existing safe hyperspace lane to a particular planet, many times there will be hyperspace markers placed at certain points that communicate with navicomputers to establish artificial lanes with pre-programmed course corrections in them, creating a non-straight hyperspace lane.

Because there are so many celestial bodies in the galaxy, often a planetary system will only have one way in or out. As a result, a small blockade between the planet and the hyperspace lane is sufficient to keep traffic from reaching the planet without surrounding the whole thing. And if someone attempts to flank the blockade, the blockading ships can simply deploy fighters to intercept.

This is why the Empire was able to prevent the Rebels from retreating at the battle of Endor. The Rebellion "obtained" nav-data for the Empire's hyperspace lane (ie., it was leaked to them) and came into the system from the only possible angle, and the Imperial fleet was not visible to them. But as the Rebels began their abortive attack, being blind to the shield, the Imperial fleet moved between them and the ONLY way out of the system. It was a trap!
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>>77435913

I watched OT just recently.

RotJ is already a dumb piece of crap. but first two movies are good. And no, they don't have idiotic scenes like what you people are trying to defend.
>>
Am I the only one who doesn't want to watch any new TFA footage after that Monday Night Football trailer? I've noticed a ton of movies put out so many trailers it takes every surprise and twist out of it before they even have my money.
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>>77436220
>RotJ is already a dumb piece of crap
Confirmed for wrong
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https://twitter.com/starwars/status/665260604278575104
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>>77436255
I don't want to see any more, but I still click and watch it because I have no self control
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>>77436094
Abrams literally described them as "surviving nazis that managed to escape to Argentina and create a new regime".
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-J1a4J7xNc
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>>77436220
>Comes to a Star Wars thread even though he hates 2/3rds of the movies, and cant say good things about the other things in the franchise
Why do you insist on shitting things up for people? Just fuck off.
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>>77435928
>or they would've never been able to escape from the Death Star

40 years later and people still don't understand New Hope's ultra basic plot.

Empire let them escape so they would lead them to Rebel base.

No seriously, are you people retarded or just pretending?
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>>77436310
>2/3rds of the movies

Anon, the vast majority of SW fans pretend PT never happened. You also should.
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>>77436333
Because every single soldier on the station was informed about Tarkin's plans.
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>>77436305
In terms of looks it reminds me a lot of TPM, which isn't bad because Phantom Meance has definently aged the best of all the prequels in terms of visuals.
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>>77436267
coughPlagueisposterscough
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>>77426207
I like that picture anon.
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>>77436333
>are you people retarded
Worse, they're prequel fags.
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>>77436220
Seriously? ANH had a midpoint where they're literally fighting off fighters with WW2 guns.
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>>77436365
>Anon, the vast majority of SW fans pretend PT never happened. You also should.
Wrong, and no.
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>>77436368

Yes. That is literally the only way they could escape.
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>>77436365
The vast majority of Star Wars fans grew up with the prequels because of pure breeding demographics
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>>77436394

Yeah man. Everybody loves those awesome movies!
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>>77427465
ADMIRAL ACKBAR CONFIRMED
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>>77436453
Clearly everyone hates TPM! The people voting anything besides utter crap are just lying to themselves!
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>>77436386

They had rapid firing lasers in WW2?
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>>77436453
57%of people who bothered to rate on rotten tomatoes apparently.

Stop shitting up the thread with this bullshit.
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>>77436479
Yeah. You didn't know?
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>>77436467
Is that Shia Labeouf staring at Threepio?
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>>77436525
it's sheia lab'uff
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>>77436484

57% is almost MoS bad. It's horrible. Well liked movies have 80-90%.
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>>77436467
If that is Ackbar he'd be ancient by now. He fought in the Clone Wars.
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>>77436674
And he was a good friend.
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What are some EU planets that should appear in Rebels?

For me it's Manaan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD4YUEd18R0
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>>77436674
He was, what, 30 or so in TCW? Plus the 50 years between that and TFA. What's the usual lifespan of MonCals?
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>finally watching new Rebels ep
>B-Wing tries out its FUCK YOU beam

I don't know how to feel about this.

>"Commander, focus fire on the Ghost"
>Kallus knows the name of the ship even though it's never been mentioned in his presence before

I don't like this.

>B-Wing kills an entire Arquitens cruiser with its FUCK YOU beam

Okay, I like this.

>"Good job, Captain Hera."

Nice.
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>>77436749
This being Star Wars, age is no reason to stop fighting.
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>>77436749

I don't know, but maybe he's just a politician now, retired from military life.
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>>77433386
I know Star Wars only exists to sell toys to small humans, but this is just getting ridiculous.

I can't go ten feet without getting accosted by Disney trying to get me to use their Yoda condoms or Darth Vader pap smear tests. I turn on the TV, I got ABC telling me I need to pickup some lightsaber suppositories and every aisle in the stores have everything from Gungan jam to Ewok Drano.

Fucking Christ.
>>
>>77436200
Hyperspace lanes are one thing, and that image shows a really shitty understanding of them. That image acts like hyperspace lanes are regular city roadways connecting every single star system. It doesn't. Not every world or even every system has a hyperspace lane. There is no designated traffic. Hyperspace lanes connect vast regions of space via quicker travel through a narrow corridor of space due to technobabble.

The issue is that jumping close to a planet shouldn't be possible due to the gravity. It's why they have to fly a distance away from the planet before they can jump. It has to do with gravity. So you'll never find yourself right no the doorstep of any one planet. And why would you? What are the odds that a hyperspace lane just happens to run straight up to whatever planet you want to go to. Again, hyperspace lanes don't run between planets and certainly not every single planet. They aren't designated traffic lanes.

At any rate whenever you travel to a star system you can always, get this, come out of hyperspace before you reach the planet. You CAN leave hyperspace "early" and then maneuver around the solar system as you please. This was in Empire Strikes Back where non-hyperspace travel shows how much territory you can cover.

A far more reasonable explanation is long range sensors. The Empire could detect their position and maneuver around the planet accordingly. Presumably even split up if the Rebels tried to break through in multiple vectors.
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>>77434001
Because it's a shitty show based on a kids movie that did things because they were cool.

Anybody who says otherwise is some rationalizing nutcase who spends way too much time wondering where the bathrooms on the Enterprise are.
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>>77437162
Because that didn't happen before Disney bought Star Wars. Hell I remember there being more of it back then.
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>>77437166
>The issue is that jumping close to a planet shouldn't be possible due to the gravity. It's why they have to fly a distance away from the planet before they can jump.

This is no longer true post-TFA.

There is a scene where Poe's squadron exits hyperspace right in the atmosphere of the planet that the FO is building Starkiller Base
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>>77436467
dude with the white hair on the left looks like donald sutherland
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>>77437235
Well obviously they have to jump into atmosphere for the turbines in their X-Wings to work, right? New X-Wings just jump from planet to planet and avoid all that pesky space battling that Dice proved conclusively is boring and nobody cares about it.
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>>77436746
Dooku from that cube episode from the clone wars implied Manaan had gone to shit since the old republic when he mentions the fishman bounty hunter, I'd like to see if they'd go somewhere with that.
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Friendly warning that /tv/ might be getting Mootwo attention soon and SW across all of 4chan may be effected because of it.
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>>77434751
Bruh do you vape?
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>Finn has used a lightsaber more than Luke did ANH in the trailers alone


B-but it's all misdirection...
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>>77437292
/sw/ soon?

>tfw I want this and think it can work but when it happens, every shitposter on 4chan is going to ruin it for us
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>>77435352

>specifically mentioning Finn

Is that you, /tv/?
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>>77437342
Too niche.
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>>77437235

They really want people to nerdrage about this movie do they?

This is as bad as new Star Trek cold fusion.
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>>77437442
>>77437442
>>77437442
new thread
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>>77437388
>Star Wars
>niche
Nigga you what
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>>77437464

Episode III made 800 million $. Jurassic World made two times that. Avatar 3.5 times that.

Do we have an Avatar board?
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>>77437459
Nigga, we are only on page 4, you jumped too early and made the thread too soon.
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>>77437380

Nobody likes him though. Go look at the Asian TFA posters. It's hilarious.
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>>77436892
>>"Commander, focus fire on the Ghost"
>>Kallus knows the name of the ship even though it's never been mentioned in his presence before

Kallus has looked at data files on the ship, multiple times. He doesn't need to be told the name.
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>>77437162

I called this shit back when Disney bought Lucasfilm.

Lucasfilm was pretty brazen about their commercialism, but for anyone to imagine Disney was not the epitome of commercialism is just idiotic and wrong.

Lucas was never a money-grubbing whore. He kept working on Star Wars as a labor of love, even though he knew he had no writing talent and only middling directing ability. He happened to be doing so with the most bankable IP in the history of the world, so he ALSO got rich off his labor of love.

Disney has been all about the cash for DECADES. You want to see real crass commercialism, this is IT. This is the DEFINITION of it. This is its most extreme form. And it will not stop. It will never ever stop, because when Disney gets something it never lets go.
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>>77437342
>every shitposter on 4chan is going to ruin it for us
It will all be /tv/ memes, Dindu Finn and racebaiting. That will be all it would be.
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>>77437555

>asians

Whitey's lapdogs. Who cares?
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>>77437579

We'll see. If TFA under-performs they will need to rethink their strategy.

And it's very likely it will underperform at least a bit. Asia don't care. Europe barely cares. USA alone is not enough these days.
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>>77437592

You know they are over 60% of world's population right?
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>>77437162
Eh, it's pretty standard plugs. Batteries always make a killing off toys during the holiday season and it's not like Duracell is selling batteries branded with vader's head on the packaging. It was just a cute enough coop for a commercial.

Is there gonna be some stupid shit? Sure. But stuff like breakfast cereals and sodas have been standard affairs for any big movie since the 80s and that's most of what I've been seeing, and ain't nothing wrong with toys.
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>>77437799
Show them whatever version you have without forcing your viewpoint of the movies on them.
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>>77437799
Star Wars Despecialized is the most ideal way to watch the movies I'd say, they're floating around there online. Those things you mentioned bugged me as well a lot of little moments where they just throw really out of place CGI stuff over what otherwise was fine practical effects that look way more in place.

Is it unwatchable with the special editions? No, but if this happened to any movie I would feel a level of disgust this idea of throwing random shit into a 20 year old movie that just looks out of place and adds nothing. Not just a "muh star wars" thing.
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>>77436467

is that donald sutherland?
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>>77436674

He died of old age in EU, sometime after the vong I think.

It's possible.
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>>77438028

Hell I'd be happy with the special edition before the second or third set of changes that added that fucking no to Vader before tossing palpatine down the reactor. I can tolerate most of the changes except that.
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>>77426920

I once hoped for a Darth Board.
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>>77427485
Relax it's just a stormtrooper.
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>>77437579
You're obviously too young to remember how fucking omnipresent Star Wars marketing was when the prequels were running.
It's identical; don't delude yourself into thinking otherwise.
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