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Ant-Man 2 Announced

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Now that Phase 2 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe has officially reached its conclusion with the release of MarvelтАЩs тАЬAnt-Man,тАЭ we have new details on what to expect in Phase 3!

Following our heroтАЩs debut adventure in this summerтАЩs тАЬAnt-Man,тАЭ Scott Lang will return alongside Hope Van Dyne on July 6, 2018 with MarvelтАЩs тАЬAnt-Man and the Wasp.тАЭ The sequel will mark the first Marvel Studios film named after its heroine.

Additionally, Ant-ManтАЩs second adventure will lead to a couple of other films shifting their dates, with MarvelтАЩs тАЬBlack PantherтАЭ moving up to February 16, 2018 and MarvelтАЩs тАЬCaptain MarvelтАЭ landing on March 8, 2019.

Finally, three untitled Marvel Studios films will premiere on May 1, 2020, July 10, 2020, and November 6, 2020.

The announcement of тАЬAnt-Man and the WaspтАЭ follows the success of тАЬAnt-Man,тАЭ which has earned $178.5M domestically and $231.3M internationally for a global total of $409.8M. It's the #9 film of the year domestically, and opens in its final international market, China, on October 16.

тАЬAnt-ManтАЭ followed one of this yearтАЩs biggest blockbusters, MarvelтАЩs тАЬAvengers: Age of Ultron,тАЭ which has earned $458.9M domestically and $946M internationally for a global total of $1,404.9M, making it the #2 film of the year domestically and the #6 film of all time globally.

Stay tuned to Marvel.com for more exciting announcements on Phase 3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in the future.

http://marvel.com/news/movies/25244/marvel_studios_phase_3_update?linkId=17794778
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What was the original date for Black Panther and Captain Marvel? Pre-Spider-Man?
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>>76468688
>тАЬAnt-Man and the Wasp.тАЭ
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>>76468688
I liked ant man quite a bit so this is good news to me
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>Black Panther during black history month

Bravo Marvel.
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>>76468723
>LOOK AT ME MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN
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>>76468688
This is exactly what I wanted.
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Good news is that BP is being released before IW Part 1 like it was originally planned.

Will Captain Marvel be in IW Part 1 or only Part 2?
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>>76468688
>Ant-man and Wasp push Captain Marvel back meaning Wasp will end up being the first female superpowered superhero to headline an MCU movie
HA! Oh wait, shit, I wonder if this means that Inhumans will also get pushed back? That'd be a bummer.
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>Black Panther February 16, 2018
>ant man 2
marvel is kill
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>Finally, three untitled Marvel Studios films will premiere on May 1, 2020, July 10, 2020, and November 6, 2020.


Standalone Groot movie confirmed?
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>>76468788
The two movies in-between the infinity wars were just re-accomodated to be three of them. So based ANTS scooted over the other two.
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>>76468832
It'll probably be Dr. Strange 2, Spider-man 2, and Thunderbolts.
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Carol BTFO
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Explain how this is going to work? Its being released after IW Part 1..
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>>76468688
>3 MCU movies per year (again) starting in 2017
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>>76468884
There were already other movies in between. IW part 2 probably just isn"t going to be picking up 5 minutes after the first one left off.
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>>76468832
Hulk solo confirmed
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Captain Marvel cancellation when?
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WHO /ANTS/ HERE?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyGwMqMCta4
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>>76468921
If I was writing it, IW 1 would end right after Thanos kills half the universe by snapping his fingers, and part 2 would be the immediate aftermath, then ONE MONTH LATER.
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>mfw
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>Revenge of Celery Man

Can't wait. It's nice that the post-credits scene is actually going somewhere instead of just being dropped and we're getting Wasp.

>>76468942

>Wasp becoming the Official MCU Lead Woman

I'd be okay with that. Evangeline Lilly is a decent actress.
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>>76468959
ANTS
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>>76468688
As happy as I am that we're getting another Ant-Man movie, Marvel seems to be biting off way more than they can chew. AoU and Ant-Man's box office results suggest that the MCU has passed it's peak popularity and has started to suffer from the market being over-saturated, and honestly I'll be surprised if they're still doing well by Infinity War Part 2.
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>>76468921
K, but what the fuck could Ant Man and Wasp be doing of importance to stop Thanos? Captain Marvel I can understand but those two?
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>>76468884
IW part one might just be Thanos collecting the gems.

Or it takes place before IW Part one.
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>>76468688
>Additionally, Ant-ManтАЩs second adventure will lead to a couple of other films shifting their dates, with MarvelтАЩs тАЬBlack PantherтАЭ moving up to February 16, 2018 and MarvelтАЩs тАЬCaptain MarvelтАЭ landing on March 8, 2019.

Good move, Captain Marvel was gonna get slaughtered by Ben Affleck's Batman movie.
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>>76468688
>Carol got bumped again

TOTALLY OUR WONDER WOMAN, YOU GUYS!
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>>76468982
Who says they are? They could have their own shit going on. We have literally zero idea of how part 1 is going to end so absolutely anything is possible.
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>>76469011
>TOTALLY OUR WONDER WOMAN, YOU GUYS!
>yfw the Wasp becomes Marvel's Wondy
Jebas, please let this happen. I need more entertainment
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>>76468971
ANTS
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>>76468982
Did you watch Ant-Man? Sub-atomic nigga
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>>76469036
ANT-MAN AND WASP
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>>76468900
Muh dick
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>>76469030
>Has more interesting powers
>A more interesting personality and relationships with other characters
>Is a founding Avenger
Couldn't be better.
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>>76468688
Wrong Ant-Man and the Wasp, Marvel!
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>>76468688
Fucking great
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How much dollarydoos will the chinese market bring to the movie?
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YESSSSS
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>>76469121
Enough to fund another 20 Marvel movies probably
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>>76468688
I really need to get to watching Ant-man. Janet looks like a cutie in it.
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>>76468979
>this is what people think

Lol, Ant-man made more than most Phase one solo movies. AoU didn't make Avengers money, but it was still A LOT. Blame Whedon and his quipfest for the decrease in money.
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>>76468688
>Black Panther in February

Sasuga Marvel
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>>76468938
Marvel can't do Hulk solos because Universal has the distribution rights.
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>>76469093
Hank is still around, and it's heavily implied than Jan is still alive. She might even be the same age due to Microverse shenanigans.

>Scott, Hope, Hank, Jan, & Cassie form the Ant-Fam
>Bill Foster, Eric O'Grady, or the new gay Asian Giant-Man join the team in future movie(s)
>Maybe Luis gets his own suit, too
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>>76468979
true. and it's a good news.
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>>76468688
ANTS
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Ok /co/ time to name the sequel.
i propose
Ant-Man 2: Subatomic boogalo
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>>76469198
>it's heavily implied than Jan is still alive

Stop. Just stop, ok?
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>>76469185
Well, they can, but they get a considerably smaller share of the profits, so they won't want to.
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>>76469215
are you retarded
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>>76469214
Ant-Man 2: Pym I Blew Up the Ant-Man
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>>76469209
WASPS
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>>76469215

>implying Catherine Zeta-Jones Jan isn't inevitable
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>>76469144
janet appears in Ant-man for all of 5 seconds, fully encased in the suit, you literally see nothing of her.

hope is not janet.
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>>76469215
Watch his reaction learning Scott could escape the Microverse.
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2016
>May 6 - Captain America: Civil War
>November 4 - Doctor Strange

2017
>May 5 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2
>July 28 - Spider-Man
>November 3 - Thor: Ragnarok

2018
>February 16 - Black Panther
>May 4 - Avengers: Infinity War Part I
>July 6 - Ant-Man and the Wasp

2019
>March 8 - Captain Marvel
>May 3 - Avengers: Infinity War Part II
>July 12 - Inhumans

2020
>May 1 - unconfirmed
>July 10 - unconfirmed
>November 6 - unconfirmed

welp
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>>76468992
Yeah, I would think that Part 1 is Thanos Quest and Part 2 is Infinity Gauntlet.
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>>76469246
>March 8 - Captain Marvel
>delayed that much
RIP
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>>76469144
The cutest in the movie is actually a big latino guy
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>>76469224
Yeah, more accurately, they can, Disney just won't let them.
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>>76469246
I always rewatch every MCU movie before an Avengers one. Guess I'll be fucked in 2019.
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>>76469246
2017 sounds like the best year
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>Captain America: Civil War - May 6, 2016
>Doctor Strange - November 4, 2016

>Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - May 5, 2017
>Untitled Spider-Man film - July 28, 2017
>Thor: Ragnarok - November 3, 2017

>Black Panther - February 16, 2018
>Avengers: Infinity War тАУ Part 1 - May 4, 2018
>Ant-Man and the Wasp - July 6, 2018

>Captain Marvel - March 8, 2019
>Avengers: Infinity War тАУ Part 2 - May 3, 2019
>Inhumans - July 12, 2019

>Unknown Marvel Studios Film 1 - May 1, 2020
>Unknown Marvel Studios Film 2 - July 10, 2020
>Unknown Marvel Studios Film 3 - November 6, 2020

So after 2016, Disney/Marvel will be putting out three Marvel films a year. That's probably a bad idea.
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>>76469246
>by the time 2019 comes around Carol will be forgotten and the movie will be more focused on the -Vells
Please, God.
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>>76469277
Juan Punch Man?
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>>76469246
Whose dick do I gotta suck to cancel Inhumans?
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>>76469290
>memes of the galaxy 2: electric boogaloo
>yet another spider-man: high school yet again
>being excited for a thor movie after the other 2

wut
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>>76469306
I'd rather they cancel doc strange and thor 3. We know for a fact they aren't going to be good.
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>yfw Captain Marvel gets bumped again next SDCC
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>>76468688
>Black Panther is now coming out sooner
YES! At first I feared this would mean it would get delayed yet again
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>>76468688
>Ant-Man and the Wasp
what a time to be alive
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>>76469306
Fox's, obviously
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>tfw this just gives us another year of Marvel pretending Carol is actually important
Please stop. Just release the movie already so we can go back to ignoring her
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>>76469331
Who says Strange will be bad?
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>>76468688
I think the bigger news is this:

>In huddled conversation with very well sourced comic book film insiders in New York bars last night, before New York Comic Con, there was one big topic of conversation. That the next two Avengers films, Infinity War Part One and Two, will have a combined production budget of one billion dollars.

>And of that, the above the line costs, that paid to the screenwriter, director, producers and principal actors will be a cool four hundred million dollars alone.

>And of the actor budget, Robert Downey Jr gets half.

>ThereтАЩs no script yet. Not even a plot agreed. But it expected that a number of Avengers characters wonтАЩt make it out aliveтАж
>http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/10/08/avengers-infinity-war-parts-1-and-2-have-a-budget-of-one-billion-dollars/
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>>76469214
Ant-man 2: the search for more money
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>>76469385
>Bleeding Cool
Go back to your hotel, Rich.
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>>76468688
Ant-Man will be Marvel's first flop they said
Ant-Man will suck they said
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>>76469384
The fact that they're going the science route yet again.
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>>76468979
>implying Infinity War part 2 won't compete with whatever the fuck The Force Awakens is about to make
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>tfw no Ant-man 2: GiAnt-man
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>>76469385
>And of the actor budget, Robert Downey Jr gets half.
Not bad for a half man.
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>>76469293

Even though it's Sony, don't forget the Spidey sequels.
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>Yfw Young Avengers is out of the unknown movies.

How would /co/ react?

>>76469420
That's in Civil War.
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>>76469403
and it was, by marvel's standards
it resulted with Perlmutter and Bendis and Quesada being BTFO

and it's not going to get better
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>>76469406
source on that? theres no fucking way they wont magic the everloving fuck out of strange. phase 3 cosmic shit ends, phase 4 magic errywhere
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Captain Marvel pushed back for Ant-Man 2, classic move by Marvel Studios. Now comes the part where we throw back our heads and laugh! Ready?
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>>76469385
>>76469422
I can't wait for downey jr. to have caps place in infinity gauntlet as he walks up to thanos with everyone dead and tells him he'll never stop fighting.
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>>76469438
The movie that triggered the changes was AoU, not Ant-Man.
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>>76469438
>it resulted with Perlmutter and Bendis and Quesada being BTFO
>it was a flop
Pick one.
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>>76469385
>BleedingCool
that's not "news," it's Rich pulling shit out of his ass.
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>>76469438
You're thinking of AoU. Ant-man did better than they expected.
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>>76469246
The break in winter 2018 is gonna be brutal.
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>>76469030
Kelly Sue tears would be most delicious thing in the world.

Also because Carol is duller than a cardboard cutout with a bag of dog shit taped on to it.
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>>76469215
You can see her in the Microverse scene, Anon.
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>>76469246
>inhuman past IF
i like royal shit but this means even more pushing from marvel
>civil war
i trust the Russos and i except BW to be a double agent who is merely considering IM point of view but except if there if the defenders,inhumans or agent of shield take part in it,it'll feel lacking,but its a good thing because having less hero make the whole thing less retarded.
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>>76469293
>Doctor Strange 2 - May 1, 2020
>Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 - July 10, 2020
>New hero movie - November 6, 2020
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>>76469293
Nah
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>>76469232
If they titled it "Honey I Blew Up The Ant Man" I wouldn't care what was in the movie as long as they had Giant Man. I'd be laughing start to finish.
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>M-marvel bubble will burst!
>Ant-man will fail!
>A-agents of Shield are irrelevant...
>N-netflix shows? Not canon! Not canon!
Best fucking time to get into MCU. While DCCU continuously fucks itself over by not allowing TV shows use same shit movies will use.
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>>76469496
Hopefully Defenders comes out then to fill in the gap.
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yfw one of the new movies is Thunderbolts
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>>76469536
wake up dude, it's 2015
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>>76469496
>forgetting netflix shows
>forgetting AoS
>forgetting damage control
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>>76469306
Fox.
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>>76469536

I don't want DC to just do exactly what Marvel does though. The fact that we're getting different approaches is a good thing.
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>>76469571
>>forgetting AoS
Thanks for reminding me, faggot.
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>>76469571
easy peasy
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>>76469571
>implying AoS will still be around then
Oh who am I kidding, It's probably gonna get a free season four since it'll be close to syndication by then, and from then on it's just free money for the network
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>>76469536
Please don't turn this into a console war thread. There's literally no reason not to enjoy the MCU, DCEU, and X-men. It's a great time to be a superhero fan, and all this /v/ tier shitposting to try and divide the fanbases along party lines only serves to bring down the quality of discussion across the board.
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>>76469449
Lucky for us people love Cap enough now. Maybe if Civil War doesnt suck Cap will have enough popularity to not be replaced by iron manlet
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>>76469384
The screenwriter's awful portfolio and the director's mediocre one.
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>>76469571
>AoS
>still in production by late 2018

Nah, son.
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>>76469629
there wouldn't be a divide, if certain jews weren't greedy petty assholes
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тЦТтЦИтЦДтЦДтЦИ тЦТтЦИтЦТтЦИтЦТтЦИ тЦСтЦТтЦИтЦСтЦС тЦСтЦАтЦАтЦАтЦДтЦД тЦА
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>>76469589
>>76469629
I am not saying I don't enjoy DC Cinematic Multivercity and movie line hasn't even started yet. But I am just saying casual capeshit fans got themselves covered and Marvel ain't going away any time soon.
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>>76469536
Not's not really a bad thing though, I'd rather they not follow the Marvel formula exactly.

Besides, they are obviously just setting up for a Hypercrisis movie.
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>>76469676
I'm really not sure which jews you're talking about. The divide is being brought about almost entirely by newfriends obsessed with the console war mentality. It works in everyone's favor if all the superhero movies are good. If one studio kept putting out stinkers then it would bring down viewership for everyone's films because it would cause people to lose faith in the genre.
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>>76469716
Oh, well clearly. Hopefully BvS and Suicide Squad are good, because I'm not sure if I'll be able to stand the posturing if it turns out to be another Man of Steel disaster.
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>>76469644
You mean like Ant Man and Cap 2?
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>>76469629
Not having shit taste is a reason not to enjoy X-Men.
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>>76469722
They have stated time after time after time after time that Movie fucks don't care about TV shits.
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>>76469727
sigh. okay
Hopefully DC fans will get great movies, and hopefully Marvel can keep the streak of successful movies

better?
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>>76469766
Cap's directors and writers had a good portfolio, just not one in the ssme genre.

Ant-Man was genuinely surprising.
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>>76469826
>better?
Perfect, though I'd also add hopefully The F4 rights revert because Fox has proven incapable of making an F4 movie that isn't total garbage.
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>>76469889
well, making ff disappear comic-wise for sure is going to help
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How did Batman do in Japan? Also I thought Japan and China had the same release.
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>>76469832

>Ant-Man was genuinely surprising.

If you watched Down With Love and Bring It On you'd know that Reed actually has a really strong eye for visuals. Even Yes Man was remarkably well-directed for a silly Jim Carrey movie.

He wasn't an expected choice, but once he was chosen I got far more interested then I thought I would be after Wright's firing. Hearing that all the Microverse stuff was his idea made perfect sense.
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>>76469927
You mean ant-man, I'm sure.

It releases in china October 16th, so Friday next week.
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>>76469928
Kevin Feige said that Ant-man's Microverse was a good taste of what's coming in Steven Strange
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>>76469246
Calling it, Black Widow film winter 2018
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>>76469967
You're right, autocorrect pls
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>>76469999

>hype

Derrickson is a decent visual director, he just needs someone to slap the screenplay out of his hand when he crawls too far up his own ass and gives us shit like Baghuul and The Jungler.

Putting him into the Marvel Factory is the best place for him. He needs voices above him to tell him no sometimes and that's what Strange will give him.
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I guess it did better than they expected.
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Okay now that fucking Ant-Man is getting a sequel we're officially at the point where Marvel can adapt anything now right.

I want that ROM movie dammit
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>>76469293
How is it a bad idea? They'll just make more money
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ANTS!
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>>76470067
>I want that ROM movie dammit
James Gunn wants that too. But Hasbro won't let him
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>>76470067
Lady Sif movie based on her short lived run in Journey into Mystery ugh, thanks, feminists.

Literally everybody in existence will be satisfied except for capeshit haters ugh, thanks, Oscar award jurors
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>>76469293
>That's probably a bad idea.
When one of these movies actually financially bombs then we'll see
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>>76470067
>still
>no
>Rick
>Jones
Goddammit, there's already like five movies where he should have been.
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>>76469297
Kek
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>>76469331
Just like GotG and Ant-Man right?
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So how did y'all like Ant-Man?

Just realized it's still in theaters. Might go to a matinee next week
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>>76470067
Pretty sure Hasbro still has ROM so no.

>>76470081
Because even without getting into MUH SUPERHERO BUBBLE there is such a thing as oversaturating the market.
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>>76469832
So you're just willing to be surprised only once or what?
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>>76470190
one of the best
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>>76470190
only if you pay
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>>76470190
It was good. Nothing ground breaking but it was better than most MCU movies.
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>>76470190
A lot better than I thought
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>>76470190
Definitely one of the better Marvel solo movies.
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>>76470190
It's a good heist movie and one of the few things in MCU that doesn't burn out by the end. It holds consistently solid throughout.

Biggest downsides were that main villain is basically flanderized Stein from Iron Man and they aren't even trying to hide it. Oh, and Hope van Dyne, she was super lifeless and boring, she was essentially just a material for Scott and Hank to bond over. I hope Cassie will take place of the Wasp, honestly.
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>>76470208
you know what is sad? dismarvel could afford either a collab movie, or buying out the rights
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>>76470265
Hope is best mcu girl
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>>76469629
>There's literally no reason not to enjoy the DCEU

I don't care about comparisons to what other companies are doing, but I do kinda like adaptations to at least have the same spirit as the source material...
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>>76469215
It is discussed like 5 times and she's literally in the Microverse scene you mongoloid.
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>>76470218
I'm saying one exception doesn't change that "Bad writer = Bad movie" is a reliable assumption.
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ANTS!
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>>76468688
Who will be the villain? Whirlwind? Crossfire? Taskmaster?
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>>76470338
Or we don't judge books by their cover?

It's not like the Russo's were known for superhero spy thrillers
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>>76470265
Hope was great, the Tsundere shit was adorable.
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>>76469446
>>76469406
Magic literally is a scientific discipline.
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>>76470013
Nah Scarjo will probably be tired of action movies by then.
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>>76470270
But why do that when you can make another movie that'd give you mad dosh without having to share?

Also, ROM would probably need a massive visual redesign to work. I like the guy as much as anyone but past the iconic head he's pretty terribly designed.
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>>76470356
ANT-MAN!
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>>76470335
Why not just read the source material then?
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>>76468688
>тАЬAnt-Man and the Wasp.тАЭ
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>>76470304
Not on her watch.
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>>76470265
>I hope Cassie will take place of the Wasp, honestly.
Cassie is like 7 in the MCU. Unless they start getting into time travel shenanigans Stature probably isn't happening.
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>>76470404
see, this is why mcu is destined to fail. Big Time
greed is a mortal sin
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>>76470208
Disney has had it's targets set on Hasbro for years.

They are getting bought by be time the mtg film.comes out
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>>76470442
Hope > Wanda > Quake > Peggy > Hill >>>>>>> shit > Nat
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>>76470456
how long does it take, before disney buys the whole world?
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>>76470413
Why adapt something if you don't want to make a moving, photorealistic version of the original thing?
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>>76470446
Nah, she'll probably be 14 by like Phase 5. That's how old she was in YA.
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>>76470503
But we can agree Fitz is best waifu, right?
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>>76470265
>basically flanderized Stein from Iron Man

Dude, Cross was a great villain. The bitter "my mentor rejected me" dynamic with Pym worked.
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>>76470552
Soon enough Marvel is gonna have to ignore real-time in favor of comic book time
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>>76470529
You sound like you want to sound smart
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>>76470630
Or maybe they're okay with Phase 1 Avengers retiring and that's why they signed Bucky's actor to the longest contract?
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>>76470594

He was Ultron and it was fantastic
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>>76470594
I wish they didn't go with brain damage in the end, though.
Also, he's got a better motivation than 90% of the MCU's villains, true, but he was still comically evil at times. The scene where he decides to start murdering lambs for no reason just to make us hate him was silly.
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>>76470651

>retiring

You mean dying and rebirth. They've long said they're gonna Bond it
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>>76470594
He had most of his development happen outside the movie, but he felt like a believable character to me.

Also, if Marvel doesn't have the FF rights, does this mean that instead of space exploration they'll have their own adventures in the various realms with the ants.
Council of Pyms fucking when?
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>>76470357
Crossfire and Taskmaster wouldn't really give good fights.
Whirlwind would be better, since his gusts of wind would protect him from ANTS and would prevent Scott or Wasp from getting close, so they'd have to be more creative. Would be more visually interesting too
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>>76469246
Is Spider-Man officially part of phase three?
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>mfw standalone Vision movie in 2020 aka Vision 20/20
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>>76470663
>he was still comically evil
> in a comic book movie

woah!!!!!!
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>>76470749
oh my god
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>>76470733
Yes.

>>76470757
Comic books aren't books of jokes and memes.
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>>76470357
After 30 years inside the quantum realm, Janet has been in concious suspension and has not aged physically, but has been aware of the time passing. She comes back with multiple personality disorder and slaps an old Hank Pym to the ground. She then becomes Red Queen.

Please leave a like, and comment and subscribe.
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>>76470642
I don't know why you'd even say that. I'm serious, what is the point of taking a book or comic or cartoon or video game that people like and making the movie version completely different, sometimes even to the point of being unrecognizeable? It's no longer the thing people liked, so why would you expect them to still enjoy it?

Obviously DC movies don't fall under the "unrecognizeable" category like most video game flicks...but still, do people actually want Superman stories to be about the worship and fear of a reckless deity?

Because, y'know, there's 70 years of pretty popular stories where he's not about that.
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>>76470749
I kek'd.
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>>76470749
Carlos!
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>>76470357
Fixer
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I wonder if the fact that Wasp is in the title will override complaints that Captain Marvel is delayed for a second time.
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>>76470663
>for no reason

You kinda missed the point of the scene. It was a test subject. The only difference between a lamb and a rat is people think lambs are cute, a distinction Hope (and the audience) makes and he doesn't.
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>>76470783
>using the term meme to describe comics unironically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jKf4hWoeR8
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>>76470875

I like that it's giving them more time to break Capt Marvel and get it right
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>>76470875
Of course not, and now there'll also be complaints it isn't called The Wasp and Ant-Man or just The Wasp.
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>>76470503
No way is Nat below fucking Jane.
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>>76468688
Ant-Man and the Wasp is a fucking perfect title. Im so glad its getting a sequel
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>>76470593
Not as long as we have Cap, black simmons or se├▒or foggy.
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>>76468979
No you're just factually wrong. Age of Ultron broke nine hundred million. That doesn't prove anything other than they are still making wildly popular movies people want to see.
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>>76470994
>and the THE WASP
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>>76470818
But that's always been a theme in Superman stories. There was a cult of Superman in the comics.
70 years of Superman stories changing and adapting it hasn't never not been changed. Like I said you want to sound like you know what you're talking about but you clearly don't.
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What if Michael Douglas dies before 2018?
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>>76470994
I cant believe it took so long but how fucking amazing is it we're finally going to see Ant-Man and Wasp? They're right next to Batman and Robin to me.
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>>76470892
>Heath: Cliff
fixed
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>>76470864
Nah, Fixer is too minor and wouldn't be able to get visually cool-looking fights. What does he even have to do with Ant-Man?
If he ever shows up it'll be as Zemo's underling
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>>76470593
call me a fag, but I totally thought they were gonna make fitz gay for Al
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>>76470190
Best third act of any superhero movie I've ever seen.
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>>76468824
On the contrary, this proves that Marvel can do any kind of movie
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>>76470190
It was good, it just feels like I would have been more impressed with it if it came out around the same time as Iron Man 1.
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>>76471239
>
Or They will throwbanything at the wall and tape t because they know it won't stick but damn will they try
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>>76469008
>Ben Affleck's Batman movie.
How exactly? It never got annouced release date
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>yfw the title doesn't refer to Scott and Hope, it refers to Hank and Jan
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>>76469215
The director even said "you might see something or someONE's silhouette in the quantum realm."
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I really don't get how they're going to top the big bad Thanos as the villain after Infinity War ends.
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>>76469246
>2020
>>May 1 - unconfirmed
Guradians of the Galaxy Vol.3
>>July 10 - unconfirmed
Spider-Man 2
>>November 6 - unconfirmed
Dr. Strange 2
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Spiderman coming out on the same year as batman? brave.
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The salt on twitter is delicious and I haven't even checked tumblr yet
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>>76469393
>the search for more money
Every movie is the search for more money you dip-shit
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>>76471490
Who fucking cares
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>>76471487
On the contrary, they're challenging DC's biggest name with theirs.
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>>76471490
Should tweet back with that Antman and Wasp are a team /partnership and to read sole fucking comics
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>>76471490
inb4 Leth fired
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>>76468688
>based pym cucks feminists who tried to hurt the movie

this is a beautiful day
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>>76471490
That's so stupid. What are these people even assuming? That Marvel's full of evil sexists who are pushing back Captain Marvel out of spite for women instead of something logical like production/casting issues?
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>>76471395
That was Eternity though.
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>>76468712
Yeah, all those dates were before the spider-man deal hit.

This is fucking great, was worried we'd only see Ant-Man in group stuff, so glad it's getting a sequel.
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>>76470367
I'm judging them by their writer.

The Russos were good directors.
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>>76471628
I didn't know Eternity looked like Wasp
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>>76471490
I was out on a stroll yesterday and I saw a couple of juggling midgets.
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>>76468688
Based Ant-Man getting a sequel
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>>76471627
Seems like it. You can tell they are struggling with how to do Captain Marvel and Black Panther movies. That's whybthey keep getting pushed. Captain Marvel will be harder because most of her history is on team books and her solos aren't that good. Marvel needs to come up with something great and they need time.
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>>76471556

Based DC Btfo's marvel
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>>76471807
I don't really understand why so many people are excited for the Captain Marvel movie and campaigning for a Black Widow movie. Why pick the most boring possible characters? What's wrong with Wasp?
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>>76471049
>But that's always been a theme in Superman stories. There was a cult of Superman in the comics.

"Always" is a funny way of saying "one time a single guy had a bad idea"
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>>76468968
>Official MCU Lead Woman
What about the one with actual superpowers.
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>>76470172
GoTG and Ant-Man have nothing to do with magic, dope.
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>>76471888
Fox and shit just messing things up
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>>76469446
>>76470377
Google "quantum science doctor strange" in google, first link that pops up.
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>>76470148
Seems too late now.
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>>76471861
Because they seem to think their aren't female lead action movies/shows. When like a third of prime time is female lead. A Be won't work in the current MCU and its need to be a stand alone thing. Carol is pushed without anything backing her and you can tell they only chose her because how similar powerwise she is to DC's well known females like We or Power girl. They can't use Xmen ladies and they are scrapping at the barrel.

>>76471871
Sure just keep proving you don't know what your talking about.
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>>76471957
Ehhh, I think they reached an agreement of ''You get QS, we get SW.''
Plus, after Apocalypse, I doubt we will se FOX QS in a long time.
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>>76471992
Look, I get it, you apparently like the whole meme or trend or whatever you want to call it of of calling Superman a "god".

And you read a story once where people in the comics worshipped him. Good for you. Too bad that was a single, brief arc that had ZERO impact on the greater continuity of the character.

But he's just a dude with powers. Without sunlight, he can get sick, he can age, he can die. He's not really immortal, he didn't create the universe or the human race or anything at all really, he doesn't deserve worship. He doesn't fall under the definition of the word "god".

So Zack Synder basing his movies around that same idea means he's not capturing the spirit of the Superman mythos.
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>>76472003
Marvel doesn't really want Wanda to be their front-woman if Fox can still pull a House of M and fuck shit up
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>>76472159
The he'll are you talking about. People will make a cult out of any belief. People make cults about fucking comets, and the Superman cult has been a thing for a while in DC. Hell they even had them try to steal Conner's body after he died fighting Superboy Prime and worship it.
Even if all you said is true it won't stop people from seeing him as outworldly. And no one is saying that people are seeing him as a God and the movies certainly aren't. Please go away your /tv/ is showing.
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>>76471795
this pic is playing tricks on me
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>>76472323
>the Superman cult has been a thing for a while in DC

Yeah, here's the thing about that. I'm not from /tv/. I've been reading comics for a couple decades.

And hey, maybe I missed something, but the only time I've seen this fucking cult thing is the part you mentioned in 52, and that was like the tiniest, most forgettable subplot in that whole book.

So they must not be as god damned important as you think they are.
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>>76471314
>Or They will throwbanything at the wall and tape t because they know it won't stick but damn will they try
You're sure you're not thinking of Fox?
>>
https://twitter.com/MrPeytonReed/status/652146472343855104
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>>76468688
How many movies are in Phase 3 now?
Might they be biting off more than they can chew?
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>>76470357
>Taskmaster?
Ward in live-action movie would be a great idea
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>>76472470
Theynwerena small consistent thing and I admitbthe example I used wasn't in the main Superman books and mostly revolved around Cassie who joined it to get over Conner's death. But they be been there.

>>76472479
Both do it but Fox it kinda works. Deadpool will make some moneynand Gambit is the only thing.
I was trying to say Marvel saysnthey arengonna donsomething and then are stuck with forcing themselves to gonthough with it.
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>>76470134
>Lady Sif movie based on her short lived run in Journey into Mystery
Only if Jamie grows her hair back out. Fuck you, Blindspot!
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>>76470928
>I like that it's giving them more time to break Capt Marvel and get it right
Given the new comic is going to be run by the Agent Carter producer pair, I'm fine with this. They're suppose to shape the comic towards what a movie for Carol should be about.
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>>76472824
>Theynwerena
>admitbthe
>moneynand
>saysnthey
>arengonna
>donsomething
??????
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>we know how black panther looks
>we stilll don't know how doc strange looks
MARVEL FUCKING SHITS
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>>76472917
The keyboard on my phone is weirdly place so when I try to hit the space I accidentally hit n or b sometimes
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>>76471085
>Michael Douglas will die before his dad
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>>76472803
>still pushing this meme
Ward has nothing in common with Taskmaster.
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>>76471085
don't he fucking dare
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>>76470134
Sif becoming Thor would have made more sense than Jane.
>>
Phase 4 might have Midnight Sons (Scarlet Witch, Blade, Ghost Rider, Jennifer Kale, Hellstorm) as a supernatural version of Guardians of the Galaxy.
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>>76471888
Scarlet Witch movie or make her the leader of Midnight Sons.

With three movies a year they can do it.
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>All this butthurt about Captain Marvel delay

It's just four months, it's not the end of the world and it's not like it was cancelled or put on indefinite hold.
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I'm glad they moved Black Panther up to before Infinity War: Part I.
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>>76472824
>Both do it but Fox it kinda works
Are you saying it doesn't work with Marvel?

Also who the heck actually cares about Gambit
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>>76473588
I wish it was cancelled.
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>>76472928
You know BP is on CW, a movie before Strange right?
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>>76468688
I am seriously pissed that they bumped Captain Marvel back. Fuck Kevin Feige. He should have put her in Age of Ultron like Whedon wanted. At this rate we'll never fucking get Captain Marvel.
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>>76471490

I want them to push Monica as Captain Marvel.
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>>76471888
It depends on what they do with her in CW and if she shows up in Strange. People are liking her so far, but it depends on if Marvel capitalizes on it or not.
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>>76468688
>more Lang

I'll pass
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>>76469505
>>76470337
She is? I didn't know about this.
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>>76473018
So go back and delete them you lazy shit. Stop making my job deciphering your stupid fucking opinions even harder.
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>>76470357
Mitchell Carson, he escaped with some Darren's Pym Particles
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>>76474711
They're not gonna make a literally who be the main villain
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>>76468832
Are you a Marvel comics exec or something?
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>>76468688
>not Ant-Man and Luis
Shit, man. This is gonna be a downer.
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>>76471888
Only if she loses that fucking terrible accent.
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>>76474185
Why would you care so much about a Captain Marvel movie? Her comics are awful.
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>>76468688
>тАЬAnt-Man and the Wasp.тАЭ


soon
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>not a Hank/Janet movie set in the Cold War period, with AIM as the villain
>Lang the blandman and literally who MC2 reference

The worst thing about this is that it'll likely result in the Lang oingoing lasting forever while Pym is in a limbo and O'Grady will likely join him there as soon as Illuminati ends. Sad times.
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>>76474185
>Caring this much about Captain Marvel
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>>76474819
>not wanting her to whisper to you in that accent your deepest desires and darkest fears
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>>76474911
MCU Lang ain't bland at all pal
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>>76474941
He has the same generic backstory as 616 Lang and is a generic funny action movie protagonist with criminal past, maybe if you compare him to Ultimate Lang who was pretty much a background nobody you can reach such a conclusion but otherwise I'm not seeing it.
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>>76474788
>Implying Lu├нs isn't going to have his own trilogy, and isn't the one to Juan-Punch Thanos in the face.
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HANKS
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>>76475008
Douglas signed for only one movie and only expressed interest in a prequel and the press release doesn't mention Hank at all. No Pyms for you, there's only Lang now
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>>76475069
do you want get a slap, because that is how you get slapped.
>implying HIT HIM HANK wont be the official name of the sequel
>>
So they moved Captain Marvel to international Woman's day, and Black Panther to black history month. Heh, that's kind of cool, I guess.
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>>76474856
>>76474916
It's mostly because the treatment of female characters in the films has been utter garbage with the exception of Black Widow and Scarlet Witch. By the time Captain Marvel comes out Marvel will have released over 20 films with male leads and not one with a female lead.

There are so many great female characters in the Marvel Universe and Captain Marvel is full of potential and great things could be done with her. Growth and diversity in the MCU are being slowed thanks to Feige and so much potential is being held back because he only cares about lowest common denominator, mass market appeal and plays everything thing safe. There hasn't been a real risk in the MCU yet.
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>>76475128
Pym is kill in everything, Lang got an ongoing before him and he won't be in this movie. It's obvious. Time to wallow in misery as usual
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>>76469246

Hope one of the unconfirmed films involves Hulk shenanigans.
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>>76475151
I think Gamora is way better than Black Widow, and don't understand why people forget about her. and dat ass
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>>76474760
>They're not gonna make a literally who be the main villain
They did it with Killian in Iron Man 3 and Ant Man with Cross
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>>76475322
I'll grant you Killian, but Cross isn't really a literally who since he's part of Scott Lang's origin story, so him being in the movie makes sense. It's just that he died in said story so most people aren't familiar with him
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>>76475319
I liked Gamora but I found her to be the least interesting characters in the movie.
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>>76469449
Whedon is gone and Russos will give Cap his spot even if RDJ does get a lot of screentime.
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>>76468832
Fantastic Four confirmed to come back
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>>76474382
And more Pym
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>>76475466
Having never really read many comic books, I've been reading the hick man run and I love it. It's almost like Rick and Morty without the profanity and humour. I'd love a bunch of exploration movies even without a villain.

I'd love a council of Reeds movie for a non-origin movie. Alternatively a council of Pym's would be freaking awesome.
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>>76475176
>Pymfags said that Pym was going to be awful in the first movie
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>>76475151
>There hasn't been a real risk in the MCU yet.

Now you're finally understanding.
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>>76474911
But AIM was founded by What's-his-face in Iron Man 3.
>>
MARVEL DON'T FAIL ME NOW
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>>76469056
It's fucking time my nigga
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>>76475599
He was much worse in Wright's script from which most early leaks came and Pym was hardly features in promos, so it was kinda justified. Buscemi would've been a better fit but Douglas was decent enough - hardly GOAT, but acceptable.
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>>76475771
>Buscemi would've been a better fit
u wot
>Douglas was decent enough - hardly GOAT, but acceptable
I'll fight you, nigga.
>>
How the fuck is IW going to work?
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>>76468688
Will the comics keep using Janet or will they try and create a 616 Hope?
>>
ANTS
WASPS
ANT-MAN AND WASP
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>>76475826
Marvel wanted Buscemi for the role and only went to Douglas when it turned out there'd be a scheduling conflict if they movie wasn't to be delayed again.

I think both choices are good but it's true that Buscemi fits better if they'd want to make a 100% accurate old man Pym
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>>76475771
>Buscemi being Pym
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>>76475859
>Turns out Hank Pym had an illegitimate daughter he never knew about
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>>76475915
Buscemi is ugly as fuck, man. Pym is handsome just like Douglas in his younger days.
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>>76475915
Why, because he has bug eyes? Michael Douglas brought a badass vibe to Pym that Buscemi could've never have pulled off.
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>>76475955
you talking shit about old Douglas m8?! You talking shit about mah husbando?
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>>76469536
Reminder that Disney considers AoU a disappointment and Ant-Man is like the third least grossing MCU film
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>>76475151
>There are so many great female characters in the Marvel Universe

wew
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>>76476037
Which is stupid because Age of Ultron was Marvel's best film so far.
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>>76469198
>>Maybe Luis gets his own suit, too
No, thank you.
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>>76476113
;)
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>>76476113
Bait
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>>76474788
>Implying that Luis isn't going to be the Wasp
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>>76471968
I know.

Magic is scientific, especially the way it's handled in most fiction and a world were it wuld exist would by defintion have it open to scientific analysis.

Science is just metagaming reality. If you can repeat an action for a controlled result, that's science and that's what Strange does.

The whole reason he is so good ia because he can apply his Med training to magical practices.

The idea of Magic and technology being some arbitrary bubbles is nonsense, for gods sake Machine and Magic are derivatives of the same word.
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>>76476037
it is because it made less money than the first avenger and worse, people like it a lot less and that is the big damage, a damage to the brand, that is why it is considered a disappointment, while Ant-Man, it made money and made a brand, people like Ant-Man now and will like more when cap 3 comes out, so Ant-Man was a big win, while Avengers 2 is a thing where they have to make repairs to the brand.
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>>76476150
Not bait, it was Marvel's best film easily.
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>>76476113
you forgot the 'tbh', man.
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>>76476193
I like you. Like, really like you.
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>>76468688
Is it revealed that Pym will be an abuseive asshole in this towards Wasp or not?

It's comic canon after all.
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>>76476260
thanks
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>>76468992
People actually think this? Its called AVENGERS: Infinity War. Its obviously going to focus on the avengers
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>>76476267
>abuseive
kek

But seriously I doubt that's ever going to be unearthed again.
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>>76469215
There's a reason we never saw Jan's face
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>>76476267
Funny you should mention that, I just saw a bait article headline that said Ant-Man and The Wasp was the first film to have a heroine featured in the title.

Irony.
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>>76469508
What is this post
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>>76476267
>this meme will never end
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>>76469246
>3 unconfirmed movies
Blade
Ghost Rider
Legion Of Monsters
the Midnight Sons trilogy
a man can dream
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>>76471382
It refers to both probably, Jan's gonna come back
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>>76476051
He meant the comics proper, not the films. Still, that guy's an asshole for placing so much importance on Carol Danvers. There's plenty of superheroines more deserving of a movie than her. Like Squirrel Girl.
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>>76476524
>implying midnight sons won't be a netflix show just like defenders
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>>76475151
>There hasn't been a real risk in the MCU yet.
Pretty sure GotG and Ant-Man were risks. Especially before they came out, the "It's gonna bomb" predictions were everywhere
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>>76471490
Wasp is as much woman as Carol is JFC, just because she shares a title with Ant-Man doesn't diminish her in any way.

Is their femininity so fragile that a bit of masculinity kills it?
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>>76476113
Okay see even if you liked AoU that's a blatantly untrue fact
>>
>announcing movies that are 5 years away

fuck this shit
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>>76476656
Welcome to Disney?
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>>76476575
Midnight Sons would require too much budget, especially if they ise Ghost Rider
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>>76476738
Nah, a flaming skull isn't expensive nowadays.
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>>76476656
This is how businesses should work anon. You need to have an objective and work towards it.
You can't just wing it like WB uses to do
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>>76469246
2017
>GoTG 2
>Spider-Man
>Thor 3
>Daredevil S03
>Luke Cage S02
>Iron Fist S02
>JJ S03?
>The Defenders
>Punisher season ??

two years from now, best year ever.
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>>76476923
half of those aren't gonna happen. Netflix will have two series per year more than likely.
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At least they didn't push back Black Panther, I couldn't care any less about Captain Marvel
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>>76476923
>Iron Fist S02

You mean Iron Fist season one.
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>>76474871
Wrong Wasp and Ant-man.
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>>76476923

> Marvelfags really are this delusional
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>>76469030
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>>76476648
It's my opinion but I completely stand by it. Part of the problem is that Age of Ultron is the first Marvel movie that actually requires viewers to think. Thematically the movie is pretty brilliantly layered and an incredibly dense film. It's more intelligently written than any other in the MCU but has a nice shiny fun surface so that it can still appeal to all ages, unfortunately people don't look underneath since no one expects a Marvel movie to actually have meaning behind it.
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>>76476563
no the girls are shit in the comics too
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>>76476923
>Luke Cage S02
>Iron Fist S02
>JJ S03?

Keep dreaming.
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>>76476267
soon
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>>76469246
So who is sticking around after Infinity War, so far we got Ant-man, Wasp, Spiderman, Dr Strange, Captain Marvel, Black Panther(?) and Inhumans (+possibly defenders). Im I missing anybody?

Also I wonder who is going to be bigger poster face for mcu Spidey, Strange or Inhuman.
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>>76477125
You're laying it on pretty thick man. Anyway, i liked it well enough. my problem was there was no sense of accomplishment because they were basically cleaning up their own mess. in the first one they stopped and alien invasion and were actual heroes. here, all the bad stuff is a direct result of the avengers
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>>76477125
>AoU hijacks Ultron's complex themes without giving him any of the character to make them stick
>Thinks this is a good quality
The Pym/Ultron dynamic inherently evokes that, Ultron is focused on Pym far more than this Ultron is focused on Tony/Banner.
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>>76477258
Gee, I wonder why...
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>>76470190

I felt like it was a nice pallete cleanser after my mind and eyes were assaulted by the million moving parts in Age of Ultron.
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>>76472195
If Fox pulls a HoM it means MCU Wanda is safe. To paraphrase Harry S. Plinkett "She will never be ruined".
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>>76477451
This will be a flop

There's too many characters

>Captain America
>Iron Man
>War Machine
>Winter Soldier
>Falcon
>Hawkeye
>Slut
>Vision
>Wanda
>Antman
>Black Panther
>Spiderman
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>>76471490

Hopefully Wasp has a scene where she fucks a married man who then dies behind Lang's back, maybe Leth will soften up to it.
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>>76469022
Part 1 is probably a space opera with Strange, Wanda, Vision, Thor, and the GotG and the Kree and Nova Corp fighting Thanos across the universe.

Part 2 is where it comes to Earth.
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>>76477258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYiIxV8N_Mc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbGyhMCES6w

god spader has a great voice
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>>76477696
Every fucking time. I swear by god, every fucking movie you faggots say this. At this point it even looks like you are being ironic. I hope you are. Because if you are not you are just fucking retarded.
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>>76469246
>2020
Doctor Strange & Scarlet Witch
Captain America: Serpent Society
Black Panther 2
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>>76469185
The distribution rights will probably revert to Marvel/Disney by 2020.
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>>76477814
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>76477451
i still think they blew their load too soon with that one. why make civil war within a captain america movie? why can't it just be marvel's civil war, and wait a little longer so the universe feels bigger. then they could bring in all the netflix shows characters and everything
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>>76468688

>Black Panther delayed ONCE AGAIN
>so that they can make "HAHA LAUGH AT THE HILARIOUS WHITE MAN" movie AGAIN
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>>76477258
>here, all the bad stuff is a direct result of the avengers
That's a huge point of the movie and what sets things up for Civil War. They begin the movie as the biggest heroes in the world, literally celebrating their own accomplishments and patting each other on the back. Throughout the film they are broken down and torn apart, literally having the darkest parts of who they are and what they've been through revealed to them. Ultron was trying to show them and the world that they're not heroes, he's challenging them and calling them monsters and tyrants.

By the end of the second act they're all struggling with the fact that Ultron may be right, and have all been told or called themselves monsters by that point. The time one the farm is The Avengers talking a reprieve to figure out for themselves if they are or aren't the monsters that they now believe themselves to be and to see what it is they're fighting for. The fight against Ultron in the climax is their attempt to prove him wrong and Cap pretty much exactly states this. While they ultimately succeed Ultron has still left his mark and we'll see that in Civil War. It's an utter deconstruction of the The Avengers.

>You're laying it on pretty thick man.
I don't think that I am but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just thought there was a lot going on thematically in the film that people tend to ignore.
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>>76478315
>mfw it was not delayed
>mfw we will watch it sooner
>mfw I have no face
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>>76478315
Anon, Black Panther wasn't delayed, it's actually coming out sooner, learn to read
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>>76468900
>being a Marvel fan
>All this good content(fight me)
I'm being spoiled so much by this company.
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>>76478223
There are movies that exist that have significantly more characters to juggle than CW and are successful, don't be a fucking idiot
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> tfw Marvel movies are the only thing stopping you from killing yourself.

> tfw you might die before seeing a Death's Head movie.
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>>76478315
>Delayed
>It's actually coming out earlier
Look how dumb you are right now
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>>76478480
How are you going to expect casuals to watch every single marvel movie to understand civil war?

Most people I know stopped watching marvel movies after avengers.

Also, please don't insult me.
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>>76478539
>How are you going to expect casuals to watch every single marvel movie to understand civil war?
The same way they watched every Marvel movie to understand Avengers 2. And this one doesn't even have Thor or Hulk in it
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>Finally, three untitled Marvel Studios films will premiere on May 1, 2020, July 10, 2020, and November 6, 2020.


>Jeph Loeb convinces Feige to produce an Iron Fist film because he doesn't have the budget to film him
>We get a proper Kun' Lun
>Feige agrees to add Shou-Lao the dragon to cash in on the Jurassic Park dinosaur craze

CHIKITY CHINA THE CHINESE CHICKEN
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>>76468959
Holy shit that's brilliant
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>>76478582
which i still don't get honestly. if they removed them because the characters are too powerful, a simple solution is to put them on opposite sides so they cancel each other out
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>>76478667
Hulk is out so they can have him come in some big surprising way later.

Thor is going through Ragnarok during CW
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How is tumblr reacting to this news?
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>>76476267
>Pym is an asshole this movie, but Wasp in a twist kicks his ass while there's a side theme of domestic abuse
>Pym and all his other heroes are no more, movies now star The Wasp
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>>76478698
sure he is, because they say so. thor ragnarok will premiere either before or after civil war, not simultaneously. there's no reason for not to be in civil war then fuck off to have his ragnarok. or could have gotten back already. they just made it this way because for some reason they didn't want the characters in it
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>>76470357
The Falcon
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>>76473081
Less than ever now.
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>>76478582
Avengers 2 made LESS than Avengers

Do you understand what that means?
Less people are watching the BIGGEST movie event in Marvel

If Marvel can't get people to watch their star movies, how the hell do you expect them to convince casuals to watch a 3rd Captain America movie?

The Captain America movies are not very popular, even Thor movies get more people watching them.

Casuals want more Iron Man, more Black Widow, more Thor.

How can you get to watch a movie that stars a non-popular avenger, and require MULTIPLE movies to watch?

To understand Civil War you need : Captain America 1,2 Iron 1,2,3, Thor 1,2 Hulk, Avengers, Antman, Avengers 2

AND they need to know about characters like Black Panther

Good Luck.
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>>76478782

Just because the movies aren't released at the same time doesn't mean they aren't happening at the same time in-universe.
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>>76478892
The first Avengers was a cultural phenomenon and one of the highest grossing films ever made, it also had little competition. Comparatively Avengers 2 had a lot of competition when it came out with terrible marketing.
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>>76468688
fucking rights, this is the second best Marvel movie yet and it was a HUGE boon to their franchise that showed that even with terrible production events it could still work. This proves Marvel is playing the long game, it beat out Hulk, Cap 1 and will probably beat Thor 1. But it also had a smaller budget then all marvel movies, yet it worked. Ant Man is a huge success, even though it hasn't been financially, it has been franchise wise.

And Wasp deserves to be in Avengers, she is the most important female Avenger there is. I don't care if her name is Hope or Jan, she HAS to be there as the core. Ant Man set her up as the most competent female super in the MCU. I'd be totally fine with a WASP lead Avengers.

BTW Feige already said Wasp has the most important role of phase 3. Here is what happens.
>Subatomic. space and time lose meaning
>Thanos uses those gems
>Wasp takes them out single handedly by making them subatomic.

either her or Lang
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>>76478892
um, cap 2 made a whole lot more money than cap 1 and was a critical and commercial success. shit it almost made as much as a nolan batman movie
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>>76478892
The same way more people saw Cap 2 than Cap 1?
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>>76478892

>The Captain America movies are not very popular, even Thor movies get more people watching them.

Except it's the exact opposite. Cap's second film made $70 million more than Thor's.

>To understand Civil War you need : Captain America 1,2 Iron 1,2,3, Thor 1,2 Hulk, Avengers, Antman, Avengers 2

Most of the people who will see this movie have already seen all of those films, or are willing to see them.

Also, I doubt that even half those films will be directly relevant. Do you really think the plot of Civil War is going to hinge on Ho Yinsen or The Red Skull? At best it will require TWS and Age of Hultron to understand.

>AND they need to know about characters like Black Panther

Except that this is his debut, and the audience will be introduced to him as such.

Think before you post.
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>>76478900
yes man we're both clear on that. you're failing to get what i mean. it's happening at the same time because they want it so. it's not some unavoidable thing. they could just say, raganrok happens after civil war. now we have thor in the movie. they chose not to
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>>76478892
oh yeah, that's why more people watched every marvel sequel but that SINGLE ONE. Ant Man made less cause it was a troubled production but it still beat most phase 1 movies.

AoU only made less because it was a worse movie, quite trying to choke up one movie as a pattern
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>>76468688
>Carol will have her movie in 20fucking19
>this means they started pushing her for the movie SEVEN YEARS PRIOR
Let that sink in.
Captcha: 616
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>>76479070
this.

although I don't think it was a worse movie, it definitely wasn't as fun as the first one for sure. (I still think it was better shot and more ambitiously written, quips aside).

But the Avengers movies are in the billion range, and that threshold can only be crossed by being generally hype, so people go in for second and third viewings. Without that they will cap at the number of people interested in it to see it once.
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>>76478941
The numbers don't lie.
Less people saw Avengers 2 than 1


>>76478968
>>76478990
>>76479009

Okay but still

Iron Man 3 made over 1 billion dollars
Cap 2 didn't get near that

What does that say about who the audience likes?
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>>76479158
More people saw Age of Ultron than Avengers. Avengers had the benefit of people seeing it in theaters multiple times
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>>76478739
Most fangirling, some bringing up domestic abuse
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>>76477812
The thing that bugs the hell out of me isn't that Ultron got the Michael Bay treatment, it's the fact that is head is just mocapped Chrome James Spader.
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>>76479141
It had better special effects, a better IDEA, but a worse execution. AoU was worse that A1, but that can be choked up to anything by special efects
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>>76474926
Nah, 2cute for that.
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>>76471490
EAT SHIT
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>>76479158

Well then it sure is a good thing that RDJ as Iron Man is 100% guaranteed to feature in every poster, teaser, and trailer for the film from the beginning to end of the marketing campaign.
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>>76479222
I thought Age of Ultron was a lot better than the first Avengers despite the studio interference hurting it
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>>76479214
>some bringing up domestic abuse

Still? Even after the first movie showed no hints of domestic abuse at all?
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>>76479222
there's an honest trailer of avengers AOU that pretty much explains all the shit whedon was forced o cram in the movie so that explains why it was worse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeDJAKvcZ9o
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>>76479212
>More people saw Age of Ultron than Avengers.

Proof?

>>76479297
Exactly

I've been saying they should've just made Civil War an Iron Man movie and not a Cap movie.

It would've made more money and got more people to watch it
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>>76479311
A lot of people hate Pym for that though. I assume fewer brought it up during the original because it was just Pym.

>He can be abusive to anyone but Wasp!
Logic.
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>>76479381
RDJ's presence alone is what will ensure this being a success, plus they are going to market the movie as Avengers 2.5
But of course, they are not going to make it an Iron Man movie because we all know that in Civil War IM is the bad guy.
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>>76479381
I can't find the article but the difference between what Avengers and Age of Ultron made is pretty small. Avengers had a high number of repeat viewings (due to low competition) and sustained its box office power for months. Age of Ultron had numerous blockbusters released right after it which cut down on repeat viewings.
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>>76479434
he's actually jot but whatever

>fuck the law, fuck the will of the people, i'm captain america and if i say something is wrong then i will plant myself like a tree beside the river of arrogance and say "you move" because my opinion is the moral compass of the world
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>>76479577
>everyone with superpowers should become the government's bitch
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>>76479405
it's more because ultimate pym had such a harrowing and effective abuse scene with the ants biting and eating janet that it got burned in people's memories and now they all think ultimate pym is pym
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>>76475319
In the MCU, Gamora is just space Black Widow. They're both the blandest members of their teams.
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>>76479577
I think people are overestimating how similar this will be to the book considering we already know the central plot of Tony and Steve disagreeing about what needs to be done about Bucky with Zemo orchestrating all the shit from behind.
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>>76468688
>Captain Marvel pushed back
>BP being pushed up

All is right in the world.
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>>76479768
so...civil war will be about bucky? that's it? wow, those two will tear the world asunder for just about anything. i'd hate to see what would happen if they ever reached for the last nacho at the same time
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>>76479957
Apparently the whole deal with Bucky is just at the beggining of the movie.
Cap and him hug it out, and then fights alongside him.
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Antman and The Wasp: Entangled
(sounds cheesy but wait for it)

Pym finds the only way to enter the microverse safely is by entangling two people. They enter find Jan, but start losing control

Pym finds this out and races to an old lab, one he had worked on for a decade when he lost Jan
>flashback Pym ignoring his daughter and instead working on a computer, an AI that will calculate the microverse and bring Jan back.
>can't make it work, gives up a broken man as Ant Man 1

Turns it on anyways and try gives it the entanglement 'coordinates' it needs.

>Bring them back Damn it!

Brings them back but only as they finally see Jan, as they are also losing contact with each other and themselves and getting lost.

Depressed scene, except Pym, he get obsessed instead.

1/2 second part incoming
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>>76479768
>>76479957
>>76480024

so many superhero arguments could be avoided if they just settled it like men with a game of rock paper scissors
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>>76479687
Thanks MIllar. Really. Great fucking job.

Ultimates 1 & 2 were still great though.
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>>76479687
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>>76480149
Was the Ultimate Universe basically just "Edgy Universe"?
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>>76479957
Cap will be searching for Bucky because he wants to help him, Tony however will either want him dead or in jail (Winter Soldier slyly implies Bucky may have assassinated Howard Stark). The two will be at odds not over that, but also of the newly pushed Sokovia Accords, which has divided the hero community.

Meanwhile Zemo will likely be playing a hand in events or using them to his advantage. The crux of the story is going to be Tony, Bucky, Cap, and possibly Zemo. Everyone else for the most part is going to be there just to illustrate the divide created by the Sokovia Accords.
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>>76479089
Look at all the push they're trying to give to the Inhumans. They know that have properties that very well COULD be successes if they play it right, but only hardcore fans know about them, so they're giving them every last bit of oomph they have.
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>>76480171
>canibal Hulk
Yup.
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>>76480059
While obsessed and analysing data, unknown to Pym his old lab that brought Antman and Wasp back comes online.
>flashback, Pym in his most obsessed times made the computer a body like Jan.

>Hank, Hank, What is--
>Jocasta now online, analysing, analysing, entanglement confirmed, parameters accessed, locking down, entanglement dis-dis-dis...entanglement confined."

Hank finds then break in entanglement with Scott and Hope and into something knew...JAN. Jocasta breaks in and kidnaps Pym.

3rd phase
Ant Man and Hope breaking into an old Pymtech facility taken over by Jocasta to rescue Hank.

Go to kill Jocasta and Pym yells
>NO, she is the only key to my wife
>When this....machine saved you two, she interrupted another entanglement...Jan.

Not spoiling the ending though!!!!!
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>>76480178
What's the purpose of Spiderman then?
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>>76480171
kind of, in retrospect. but it had some very good stories too. everyone hates the UU since ultimatum, but they forget there was a lot of good stuff before
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>>76479957
Tony sees Bucky as an iredeemable assassin considering he killed Tony's parents and countless other people for decades. He wants to see him stand trial for it. And since Steve will be protecting Bucky because he's his Bucky and Tony can't have him, they'll be fugitives.

All of this being orchestrated by Zemo who instigates the events behind the scenes and is the main villain. Focus being on Bucky, Steve, and Sam, along with the rest of their team. Tony and his team are basically going to be for the big fight scenes, and no doubt plenty of Steve and Tony arguing scenes.
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>>76480231
>pushing inhumans
>not actually using any inhumans from the comics except daisy

either have the fucking inhumans in AOS or wait for the movie, but these non-characters are annoying as fuck. like that electric pretty boy, who is that? wh the fuck cares?
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>>76478283
Big events kind of work in the comics, because fans know a lot of heroes, and they have a long form story to tell them with. Movies last for about 2 hours, so them having more characters to use wouldn't necessarily be good or needed. The teams in this are 5-6 people, and some people are already saying it feels overcrowded.
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>>76480268
There really isn't one. His role was initially just a cameo that might have been slightly expanded upon. It's not really an adaptation of the comic, just re-purposing the name and some ideas.
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>>76480328
god you people are insufferable. Who cares about these characters? No one, until they make a fucking story about them. You act as if only silver age character are to be cared about, a lot of them have been forgotten and for good reason.
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>>76480268
Cameo on Tony's side to get people hype, and plenty of action scenes. We already know that the actual actor only has one scene, with all the rest being a stunt double in full costume and some vo quipping.

It's the fight scene team, and we get to see Spider-man fight. He's just another member of Tony's team. Hell, T'Challa will likely have more scenes than Spider-man despite Spidey's movie causing his to get bumped back a year.

Of course, the Feige could always go "needs more Spider-man" and change shit, but it all seems pretty minor from what we've heard.
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>>76480268
Literally only for hype. Also, Tony stuff
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>>76477255
Bucky or Falcon will become Cap, they'll both still be around probably. Guardians will be there too, they'll need a third movie.
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>>76480427
>yfw MCU Spidey gets the "with great power comes great responsibility" line from Tony
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>>76480405
fair enough. so you'r actually saying these made-for-tv inhumans have a shred of depth, personality or anything interesting about them? which ones? can you even remember their names?
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>>76480171
Yes, but at the time it was a big fuck you to the CCA and a genuinely bold move that reinvigorated the industry back then.

Ultimate Spider-man and Ultimates were a huge deal. Even Ultimate X-men and UF4 were doing great stuff, with only Ultimate X-men being a rela product of its time and kinda shitty looking back.

Millar and Bendis were in many ways the shapers of the 00s for Marvel in the same way you could look at Rob Liefeld and Jim Lee.
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>>76480505
not gonna lie though, seeing even one scene of spidey fighting other marvel heroes is giving me a giant boner, so hype achieved. maybe i'm just drinking the kool aid, but damn it tastes good
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>>76480598
Well there's Daisy and Lash, who are from the comics. Then you've got Lincoln, Raina, Gordon, Chinese Mom, and Gay Melter.
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>>76480598
I have never read anything with Hyde before but he was fantastic, so was his wife. Which in turn added more to Daisy than I read in comics, which admittedly isn't much cause she didn't seem cool.

Also, I get compassion more for this nightcrawler than I have for the Fox movies.
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>>76480680
I think a fight between Captain American and Spiderman has been heavily rumored
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>>76480629
It was also an attempt to hire better quality artists and authors. It's a shame that Marvel went back to square one, they spend pennies on art and have been loosing authors all over the place.
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>>76479089
>ant-man fans had to wait decades for a proper ongoing and the movie
>carol fans had ms. marvel and captain marvel push in 2009
>their movie gets delayed by ant-man 2

I don't have a smug enough pepe for this one
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>>76471487
I mean that happened in 2012 too.
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>>76480726
hyde is a daredevil/street level marvel villain who was a scientist that made a super-strength formula which turned him into a loon. he has nothing to do with inhumans. in his "hyde form" he's also very eloquent and intelligent which serves as a juxtaposition to his violent and insane nature. tv hyde just became a shittier hulk, losing his intelligence and going berserk.

the wife was bland as fuck for me, and her "secret" evilness was obvious from the start. also note you don't even remember her name(neither do i, but you're the one defending the character)
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>>76471404
Secret Invasion, Skrull/Kree War, Dark Reign.

& if they get FF back by then they'll have Annihilus, Galactus & Doom.

They could also always go back to Thanos in like Phase 5 or 6, he's more than just one story.
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>>76471404
If only they had Doom.
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Why is Zemo even in the movie?
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>>76480898
I can't ever remember those type of chinese names. Jiayjaig? I can't pronounce a fucking Welsh city name, nor most names in Canada. Hence why I don't remember. It's just the fact of her having a complex name I don't know it, I know Lincoln, but care more about Jiay something and not-nightcrawler than him.
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>>76480996
Disney wanted something the kids to boo at
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>>76475955
>Buscemi is ugly as fuck, man.
He has the cadence of someone who'd become obsessive and paranoid but enough honesty to sell actually giving a shit about stuff.
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>>76471404

Honestly I wouldn't mind if they dropped the continuous narrative. They don't need to have a big bad, necessarily. Maybe just have a mid-phase where they focus on telling stories instead of setting up Secret Invasion or what have you.
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>>76480598
>so you'r actually saying these made-for-tv inhumans have a shred of depth, personality or anything interesting about them?
Yes.

>which ones? can you even remember their names?
Raina, Gordon, Lincoln, and Jaiying. Now we've got Joey, who I think is a nice addition to the show (He was great in Narcos

>>76480726
Cal/Hyde is GOAT.

>>76480898
>>76481076
I loved Jaiying. I thought she was great and while we could see the evil twist coming I thought she was a good character.
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>>76480898
>in his "hyde form" he's also very eloquent and intelligent
God I really hate that people completely misunderstand Jekyll and Hyde. That's a very good portrayal of it. Hyde isn't his "opposite" or anything like that, it's his repressed side. The part of his humanity he considers monstrous. And that's why he loses control over the story; Jekyll began denying that side of himself, due to its monstrosity. And what does it mean to be a monster other than denying your humanity?

But no, hulking babbling rage monster, that works too, just as deep and interesting.
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>>76474911
Fuck you nigga, the new Ant-Man ongoing is based & Hank is better as Yellow Jacket/Wasp than he ever was as Ant-Man.
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>>76481258
Jiaying was shitty Chinese Magneto, admit it. Cal was great, too bad David Lynch grabbed McLachlan for that Twin Peaks revival.
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>>76471404
celestials.

i'd also like an eternals movie, a bit like what gaiman did for them, but that's a long shot
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>>76481410
Jaiying was a sexy as hell Chinese Magneto.
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>>76476923
>Cage, Jones & Iron Fist
>getting multiple seasons
>not becoming Heroes for Hire after Defenders
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>>76481446
Gaiman's take on Eternals was incredible. Marvel would be smart to do something along those lines.
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>>76481453
that actress is just Suren in my mind. psycho vamp princess
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>>76481613
She is and will always be Sierra to me.
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>>76481518
it was pretty complicated for a popcorn movie though
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>>76481691
It's easy enough to grasp that it would work, besides Marvel is at a point where they can take risks because their movies are guaranteed money makers.
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>>76481674
i should really watch dollhouse one of these days, it's just that the premise doesn't appeal to me at all.

also all these recent idiotic hercules movies could be blown out of the water with marvel herc. so much asgardian stuff, no love for olympians
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that envious feel when in 30 years there will be kids just growing up that will have so many mcu movies already waiting for them while i have to waste all my years getting them one by one...
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>>76482038
>it's just that the premise doesn't appeal to me at all.
What about it doesn't appeal to you? I think the first couple episodes sort of drag (the show was intended to be very different than it is, darker, grittier, dealing with some seriously fucked up stuff, but Fox wanted something sexier and with more action, but less sex) until they can get things together again, but they do some great world building until episode 6 kicks into gear.

>so much asgardian stuff, no love for olympians
So true. There's so much potential in it but Hollywood just seems to ignore it or treat it like garbage. Hopefully the upcoming Wonder Woman film will be heavily ingrained in the mythology.
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>>76468688
If we don't have Wasp growing into a giantess in at least one movie, it'll all be a waste of billions of dollars.
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>>76482252
just the whole "erasing an operatives memories" after missions is kind of stupid and played out to me. seems like that show My Own Worst Enemy, where christian slater plays edward, a deadly operative whose mind is erased when not on missions to become henry, mild mannered family man(note the "clever" references)
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>>76482252
>ignore it

after Immortals, two Clash of the Titans movies with worthington, a rock Hercules movie and an even worse Hecules movie, i kinda wish they would
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>>76482463
I can understand where you're coming from but Dollhouse ultimately has an interesting take on the idea which evolves past that, and becomes more about the nature of humanity and identity. It's a lot like Dark City in a way. I think it's definitely worth watching and it's in my top 10 favorite shows.
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>>76482405
what is it with /co/ and giantess fetishism? i don't really mind it, it's just such a weird fetish...
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>>76482768
eh fine already! i'll watch it when i'm done with Sirens, which is a british show so that should be over with in a day.
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>>76482775
Guys love girls. The bigger they are, the more there is to love. Like domination? Look no further than a chick that can dominate a city, or even a planet. Prefer nicer, gentler types? A giant woman can handle you like a child, a pet, or an insect.

But this is all off topic. Never ask to understand a fetish, if you don't have it, it won't make sense.
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>>76482888
I just got hard thinking about it
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>>76468688
Hmmm...by the time these movies come out in China, haven't they been pirated to hell and back? I mean...it's China. Is there any chance that 90% of the people who wanted to see it haven't seen it already?
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I'm not excited for any of this except Black Panther and his unfortunate name. I'm actually more excited for netflix shows, go figure.
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>>76482963
>this nigga doesn't know about chinese democracy
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>>76469403
Ant-Man 2 is gonna suck. Total bomb. Guaranteed. I've already seen it, so I know. Really, my father's brother's third cousin's wife's nephew's best friend's guinea pig's step mother's third cousin's ex-boyfriend's tapeworm works for Marvel.
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sho 'nuff.
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>>76482857
I started the U.S. version of Sirens and didn't learn about the British version until recently, is it worth watching?

>>76483039
Well it was banned in China.
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>>76483079
it just doesn't seem necessary. it's not a "film series" character. instead of that sequel they could make a new movie with a different character. it was a nice little movie but nothing about it made me go "holy shit i want a sequel to this".
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>>76469293
>Avengers: Infinity War тАУ Part 1 - May 4, 2018
>Ant-Man and the Wasp - July 6, 2018

One month in between.
da fuck?
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>>76483354
it's great, and has nothing to do with the US shitfest. also Richard Madden is enough to turn a man gay
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>>76483423
But is he enough to turn a lesbian straight?

>>76483419
It's two. May to June, June to July.
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>>76483419
Two months.
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>>76483553
I dunno, you tell me

>>76483419
because infinity war is only half a movie. i hate that shit. it always feels so contrived. probably because it is.
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>>76483661
Nah but he seems kind of adorable. Time to watch the UK version.
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>>76482405
You never know. Giagantic is coming out that same year, maybe somebody at Disney is pushing the giant girls.
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>>76483968
no, they're just going of a list. ice princess and giant princess are done, next will be a fire princess and tiny elf princess
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