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On the nature of "practical costumes"

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Why is it at all necessary that the ouftiting of low-fantasy characters be confined by practicality?

A leather jacket is no more protective than a skin-tight fabric made of fictional high-strength materials; if anything it's lesser protection.

And let's get one thing straight: is the character going to suffer potentially mortal injuries?

If the answer is no then they don't even require the pretense of armor.

The nature of these boots, meanwhile, is antithetical to anyone hoping to be either acrobatic or silent and therefore meaninglessly impractical in every sense.

There is an argument for practicality in outfitting women who will be engaged in combat.

This travesty of a design does not serve that purpose, nor is it functionally superior in any way to prior Batgirl designs.

Now I ask you to defend it somehow on that basis.
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You forgot to mention tumblr and feminism.
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It's a great design, who gives a shit if it's practical

You cannot expect me to believe there are people who liked her first new 52 costume more
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I can't get over that damn mask. If she turns around too fast it'll go flying off.
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>>63512048
>Why is it at all necessary that the ouftiting of low-fantasy characters be confined by practicality?

Because people who read low-fantasy, low power characters often find realism and practicality to be appealing, hence the like of those types of characters.

>A leather jacket is no more protective than a skin-tight fabric made of fictional high-strength materials; if anything it's lesser protection

Okay.

>And let's get one thing straight: is the character going to suffer potentially mortal injuries?

The character would be prepared to suffer mortal injuries.

>he nature of these boots, meanwhile, is antithetical to anyone hoping to be either acrobatic or silent and therefore meaninglessly impractical in every sense.

Okay.

>There is an argument for practicality in outfitting women who will be engaged in combat.

Okay.

>This travesty of a design does not serve that purpose, nor is it functionally superior in any way to prior Batgirl designs.

Okay.

>Now I ask you to defend it somehow on that basis.

No.
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>>63512048
Why are you spamming?
Also the point of this costume is it's her homemade costume because her regular one is in the shop or some shit.

Also I'd never defend anything because "Realism", Realism in Superhero comics is bullshit, even the most realistic of heroes are still bullshit. The only reason I'd want tacticool bullshit is if the character is supposed to y''know....tacticool. So basically just Punisher and his ilk.
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>this re-design is more practical oriented

People were saying this? Aside from the shoes, there's nothing more practical about this than her old suit.
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>>63512048
>There is an argument for practicality in outfitting women who will be engaged in combat.

It's part of the feminist mission to destroy attractive female characters by ridding them of form-fitting costumes that reveal their sexuality and putting them in masculine costumes instead, and punish men for being attracted to them.

They've taken over comics. Pretty soon, all of the Earth members of the GLC will be chicks. They've already introduced a chick one, but made her "Power Ring" to make it less obvious.
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>>63512189
>It's part of the feminist mission to destroy attractive female characters by ridding them of form-fitting costumes that reveal their sexuality and putting them in masculine costumes instead, and punish men for being attracted to them.

Why do white people of all political affiliations think everything is a conspiracy to destroy the type of white person they are?

Tumblr does it, /pol/ does it and now /co/ does it.
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It's not "necessary", it's a welcome change after all these decades.
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Wait what happend? She has a new costume now? Or was this just a cover?
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As someone who watches Arrow, in-which a man in tight leather pants runs around in ways he shouldn't even be able to I have no problem with it.
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>>63512240
New costume and new creative team
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>cape that can unholster

I look forward to the inevitable attempt to drag her down only for that to cause the villain to fall to his or her death alone.
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>>63512246

Finally, is it an all new start or we're continuing off new52?
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>>63512048
I like the boob-shaped jacket with the X on it better.
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>>63512077
Flimsy domino masks have stayed on characters faces for over 70 years now.

I'm sure she'll manage
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>>63512242

But a leather jacket is normal for a regular superhero like Green Arrow.

But when they put Batgirl in a leather jacket, they are trying to obscure her femininity because feminists think attractive females are bad and dislike that men enjoy them. I mean, they even gave her monoboob now.
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>>63512262
It sounds like it will be completely different from her new 52 book so far

It starts in October with batgirl 35

http://www.mtv.com/news/1864359/batgirl-exclusive-dc-comics/
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>>63512275
Sport gum is a thing.
I doubt she has her entire head covered in it.
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>>63512077
It's a comic book not a live action mask

Who cares
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>>63512322
*spirit gum
I hate typing on a phone.
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>>63512048
For Christ's sake, she is a damn comic book character. The things she does are fictional, and meant to be enjoyed to a degree where their inherant fantastical nature shouldn't ever be a problem in the first place? Why is is so easy to believe in an imaginary fabric that offers protection from knives or bullets, or a man to be able to jump from building to building, and fight harded criminals night after night for decades without dying on the job, but dress a girl in a motorcycle jack, and give her boots, AND WHOA! THATS TOO MUCH!!! It looks fun, and I'm excited to read it. Unless you were a die hard fan of the book as it was, which I highly doubt, I think you're talking out of your ass. Please stop.
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But it's no longer sexist because her titties aren't accentuated.

Tits = Automatic sexism.
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>>63512292
That's because feminists hate strong female characters who display their sex appeal and use it in an empowering way over men. They want female characters who are written exactly like men, being aggressive, always the team leader, and other buzzwords like "independent," "smart," "classy," "decisive," whatever.
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>>63512217
why bring race into it
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>>63512375
What's sexist about tits?
Women have tits.

Are women sexist?

What does "sexism" even mean?
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>>63512048
Let's alienate the majority of the existing readers so we can finally get all those new female readers!

>Book is cancelled due to low sales
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>>63512292
>>63512377
She still looks plenty feminine to me. I don't need boob-hugging tacticool metal-spandex to confirm that for me.
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>>63512130

>Why are you spamming?
Because everytime he's made this thread, it's resulted in a 500+ post circlejerk about tumblr and feminism. If you find an effective trolling method, why not use it?
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>>63512309

Not completely apparently.

What's /co/'s equivalent to /a/s three episode rule?
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>>63512379

Why bring sex into it?
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>>63512379

Why bring feminism into it.
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>>63512394

Stop asking completely logical questions.

Even women know their own tits are sexist
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>>63512409
Three issues

Also it's new writers, a brand new artist, they're literally setting stuff from Simone's run on fire, it's about as different as you can get
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>>63512359
>For Christ's sake, she is a damn comic book character. The things she does are fictional, and meant to be enjoyed to a degree where their inherant fantastical nature shouldn't ever be a problem in the first place?

Because they don't want us to enjoy it. To the feminists, it is bad for men to enjoy a female body, even in a fantasy genre read almost entirely by men.
Instead, they cover up the women, and force the Hawkeye Initiative on us.

>>63512375
Not allowing tits is the real sexism. It's sexist against men for making deviant our sexuality.
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>Frozen and its titty parade are the most popular thing in the last 20 years of animation
>But girls don't like cute, shapely, outfits, no, that's impossible and sexist and stop forcing women to like being attractive, non-trans scum.
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>>63512395

If Batgirl wearing a new costume that doesn't show off her tits and ass as much alienates existing readers, they probably weren't doing much in the way of reading anyway.
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>This thread

You guys are literally just as whiny and 'persecuted' as tumblr but for different reasons. This is hilarious.
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I think the fact that most of the complaints are "it's not realistic enough" and "I can't see her tits anymore" means it's a pretty good costume
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>>63512453
They were buying.

You want there to be less incentive for horny fanboys to buy comic books.

For what possible reason will this help anyone?
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>>63512445

I was asking more about the canon, as in if I had to read the previous 35 issues to read this one.

Might be the case.
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>>63512048

The huge exposed ears with lots of earrings are really fucking annoying on that design. Also the boots. Why?
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>>63512402
Yeah, I mean it's clearly a feminine style leather jacket, not unlike what a lot of women wear today. But modified for cape actions.

Orion is no less manly because he wears Chiang's motorcycle jacket inspired costume instead of a tight-costume that shows off every single one of his masculine muscles.
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>>63512486
Oh. Nah I really doubt that you'll have to read Simone's run for the new one

I don't plan to anyway
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>>63512481

Why do you want horny kids reading your cape comics? What, you'd rather horny teenagers be associated with you than women?
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>/co/ hates generic Bat-series bullshit like Simone's Batgirl and Death in the Family
>Comics should be more fun!
>new creative team announced for Batgirl
>gets rid of Simone garbage, attempting to be more fun and lighhearted
>/co/ flips shit about tumblr and feminism and all kinds of other horseshit
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>>63512451
Women aren't one monolithic entity who only have one shared desire and thought.

Fucking variety man.
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>>63512481
>people who were buying Batgirl to jerk off to it won't buy it anymore!
oh no how will DC ever recover?
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>>63512451

All women hate their titties and vagoo, Anon. What are you talking about?

Especially the lesbians, they all wanna fuck womenmen and not women.
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I wonder if /co/ randomly approaches women wearing leather jackets in the street and accuse them of being tumblrfags.
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>>63512488
Because stop finding femininity attractive and turn gay already, faggot.
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>>63512509

Women are fine, they just need to stop making fun of my penis.
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>>63512554

But it's such a small penis, anon.
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>>63512502

Well I mean it literally says tired aftering finding out her brother is a murderer (I didn't it read it like you, had no idea she had a brother, let alone a murderer) she leaves Gotham

Maybe it'll just be a footnote
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>>63512402
Yeah, I don't understand why people are whining so much about this new costume. It looks more like they're going for fashionable than for "realism." And if you're going to complain about dumb costumes, why not complain about Batgirl's previous LINES LINES LINES tacticool armor suit? People are just complaining about this new design because it's different from the superhero norm.
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We already have this topic:

>>63503776
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>>63512481
I think there will be plenty incentive to keep buying

Have you seen the artists' stuff? I mean damn
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>>63512540

Nah, I just get erections and cry that I'll never know the intentional touch of another human being.
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>>63512570
Who is this supposed to be enticing?

Pedophiles?
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>>63512500
But it's normal for male characters like Orion to wear leather jackets or armor or things that aren't form-fitting, because men derive their status from what they do rather than how they look, which is why they are expected to have good jobs and money and be good with tools and things.

With Batgirl, putting her in a suit that hides her in a leather jacket that obscures her body is a blatant attempt to hide her femininity and make her less attractive. And, seeing as being attractive is important for females, it actually makes her less of a strong female character, which the feminists would realize is shooting themselves in the foot if they were smart enough or actually cared about girls.
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>>63512540
You know damn well none of these people have ever gone up to a real life woman and said anything to her
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>>63512566

Is my 3 inch penis really so small...?

... No, it's the vagina's that wrong.
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>>63512597

But I'm so scared of being accused of rape...

I mean I look like Boco, and I'm about as tall.
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>>63512594
>thinking I don't want to have sex with jacket-girl more
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>>63512594

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.

Hats off to you. I have no response to this.
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>>63512594
>With Batgirl, putting her in a suit that hides her in a leather jacket that obscures her body

Have you even seen the new design? It's not really obscuring her body. Her new costume still highlights her figure pretty well, it's just that the artist is actually drawing fabrics rather than drawing a naked person and splashing body paint over it.
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>>63512594
Not sure if mra or just pretending
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That looks disgustingly like someone's DevArt redesign. Ew.
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>>63512643
Yes, Tumblrites have a penchant for shutting down in the face of rational conversation, the use of logic, or a point they cannot handle. You're just mad that anon #rekt this pandering costume.

>>63512568
That one was at least tight and didn't hide her body like some Muslim berka
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>>63512510
Have you seen any threads besides this one? The initial reception was really positive except for like two shitposters who got mad.

>>63512500
Fucking this. If this doesn't strip Orion of his masculinity, how does this strip Babs of her femininity? How the fuck is boob-hugging metal spandex

my god I love Chiang's Orion. Azzarello/Chiang Orion book when

>>63512568
Agreed. Batgirl's current costume is some dime-a-dozen bullshit. This is pretty unique and actually says "Batgirl" to me. Almost reminds me of the TNBA costume except more... leather-y.

It also seems reasonably functional to be honest. For example, if some superpowered fuck tried to pull on the cape thing (which might be kind of a glidey thing too, I'm not sure), it'd come off.

People are also calling her a "teenybopper" and saying she looks twelve... and I'm just sitting here wondering if they've ever looked at a college student in their lives.

>>63512594
>With Batgirl, putting her in a suit that hides her in a leather jacket that obscures her body is a blatant attempt to hide her femininity and make her less attractive. And, seeing as being attractive is important for females, it actually makes her less of a strong female character, which the feminists would realize is shooting themselves in the foot if they were smart enough or actually cared about girls.
Oh my fucking God.
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>>63512594
I find Batgirl's new design significantly more attractive than the one she had previously.
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>>63512623
Well I can see why you'd be scared

Just make sure your penis is inside your pants before you start lumbering towards her I guess?
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>>63512684

So, in your professional opinion, any woman who doesn't run around wearing only the tightest clothes which reveals their every feminine curve is giving in to some feminist conspiracy to deconstruct femininity and topple the patriarchy through wearing leather jackets and other less form-fitting clothes?
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>>63512684
And how exactly was the tacticool boob-hugging metal spandex no pandering?
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>>63512690
Azz's wordplay does have a theatrical, near-Shakespearian vibe to it sometimes. That quality plus Chiang on a New Gods comic would be killer
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>Orion and Batgirl will never press against each other, all hot and sweaty under their jackets
;_;
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>>63512728

Well, that's pandering to HIM, so it doesn't count.
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>>63512667
Funny that having any opinion that isn't feminist propaganda these days gets one labeled an MRA.

MRA are almost as bad as feminists.
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It looks awesome and you're just trying to stir up shit

You can't be seriously MUH-ing over her previous look when her last costume redesign was 36 issues ago

You're literally complaining just to complain. /v/ is thataway ->
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>>63512728
It was pandering to that guy instead of people that aren't him so obviously that means it's not actually pandering!
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>>63512728
Fuck off, tripfag.
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Aren't tights a bit archaic now? They worked on the Golden Age guys because they're what circus strong men wore. Nowadays when a new character that wasn't from that era tries that look, they just look unremarkable.
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>>63512749
>putting a jacket in a female character is feminist propaganda

man trolling or not these threads are good for some laughs
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>>63512667
What part of what he said isn't true ?

stupid faggot
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>>63512048

OP, why do you even care. They'll change it back in a year or two.
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>>63512784
>Aren't tights a bit archaic now?
Aren't rhetorical, leading, questions pointless ego masturbation intended to emptily support your point by assuming the negative and proposing it as law?
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>>63512774
Thanks for the counter argument

>>63512790
Because the jacket doesn't hide her femininity at all. She still clearly looks like a woman.
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>>63512048
to make it easy for hot chicks to cosplay
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>>63512690

a tripfag being a faggot?

HOW RARE!!!!!!!!!!
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>>63512395
>Let's alienate the majority of the existing readers so we can finally get all those new female readers!

No.

More like lets desperately try something new because we alienated our real readers by rebooting her with the new52 and destroying years of great canon and leaving her in the hands of a fucking hack writer who is only given work because she's the token "female dc writer"
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>>63512809
kill
your
self
tripfag
cancer
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>>63512715

I'm afraid I just can't do that.
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>>63512292
>because feminists
Stopped reading here.
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>>63512048
I don't care if it's practical or not, I like the shoulders. The fact that it's being promoted as a practical costume is dumb but it isn't a big deal.
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>>63512718
>feminist conspiracy to deconstruct femininity and topple the patriarchy

Well, that would be impossible because there is no patriarchy. Women have it better than men because they aren't in dangerous, high-risk jobs like construction or CEOs, and they get to get time off work to do domestic "work" like babysitting and housecleaning, which is essentially just eating chips and watching soap operas with a sponge in your hand.

>>63512728
Not that anon, but men are the primary readers of comic books anyway, so it's normal for comics to appeal to them, while trying to appeal to people who don't even care about them and make fun of them is the real pandering.

And, evolutionary theory even states that females are supposed to be attractive because their survival depends on access to male providers, and male gene survival depends on them getting women, so it's more natural for girls to be sexy.
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>>63512048
>Why is it at all necessary that the ouftiting of low-fantasy characters be confined by practicality?
I don't see why a series shouldn't be able confine itself to that, in this case I think it's a mostly snazzy looking design

I'd make the lower strap for the pouch blend in with the leg since it doesn't help to break up the figure there, but otherwise this is a pretty solid looking design if you want a take on a Bat family that doesn't rely on crazy future-materials for everything.

Not saying it's more realistic per se, but appropriate if you want to make something where the Bats are more an oddly dressed detectives/vigilantes than the near-invincible beings we know them as.

What I'm saying is, this looks like what would happen if DC for whatever reason licensed out Batgirl to Popular Mechanics. And really, would you not read that?
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>>63512822
Dude vidya sales are in the shitter right now and a good deal of the reason is SJW pushing their shit on the industry and the industry caving.

It is bad business to cave to the demand of a demographic that do not and will not buy your product.
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>>63512728
Fucking #rekt
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>>63512048
It isn't practical as a get up either. It is a hipster/goth design mix plain and simple. You're acting like she has MOLLE or codura OP tac pants. Even her drop holster is attached wrong to her duty... im sorry "utility" belt.

Captain America First Avenger is something i would consider more practical.
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>>63512866

Jesus.

How much did you hate your mum?
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>>63512594
It doesn't hide any feminity, it's just stylized in a different way than boobsock tights. It has seams which accents the chest and waist, it's tight as a jacket can get and it's accented by butt hugging tights. There are many ways to design something feminine and there are many ways to attractiveness.

The thing about "strong female character" is that its a very easily misunderstood term. Strong does not mean the literal strength of the character but the thoroughness of how its written.
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>>63512048
If we wanted practical then everyone should look like pic related. It offers actual protection but remains light enough to still perform acrobatics and self defense.

But that is boring and everyone looks the same. So when you read the word "practical" in terms of superheroes you need to throw away any idea of the above. that's not how they are defining it. Instead it means "more casual" or "more everyday" It's a turn to make cape costumes more like everyday clothing that still retains the older looks.

The boots and jacket are exactly this. You wouldn't bat an eye at the that look one someone walking down the street (ignore the color and design just look at basics). The cape and leather is maintain the older look.

It's a fusion between the two and naturally it's going to be divisive between the two camps
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>>63512448
>To the feminists, it is bad for men to enjoy a female body, even in a fantasy genre read almost entirely by men.
I find sexier this new costume for some reason. And I apreciate how it stands out.
Do you want something more skin tight? You can always read, you know, every other female superhero ever.
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>>63512813
More like to make it easy for fat convention Tumblrwhales get to cosplay as Batgirl, by getting rid of the form-fitting costumes that only girls with nice bodies can fit into, and slapping a frumpy old jacket on her.

We don't need more of this.
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>>63512874
Are SJWs even making leeway in games? As far as I can see it's still the same old shit.
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>>63512804
Are they? You seem like you'd know. Along with how to be evasive.
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>>63512448
>To the feminists, it is bad for men to enjoy a female body, even in a fantasy genre read almost entirely by men.
>Instead, they cover up the women, and force the Hawkeye Initiative on us.
Oh my god. Are you serious? How many other titillating characters are out there? So you lose one? BFD. Have you seen her old costume? It was a cluttered LINES!!! mess, and the book was Batman stories featuring Batgirl, but only when it wasn't tied into this month's half assed crossover. If the new creative team is to be believed, the book is going to feel a bit more lighthearted, which is a shot in the arm of fun that DC had been depriving us of for so long. I couldn't be happier about this. As for not seeing tits bouncing all over the place, where is your imagination sir? This is a younger looking, more cheerful Babs, who still has a rocking rack under that jacket. How the fuck is this any less attractive? My god, do you have no sense of foreplay, or the chase before the catch? Pic related
Also, what the hell is the Hawkeye initiative?
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Can I sue DC I designed a character with very similar colours and attributes.
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>>63512866
>muh evopsych
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>>63512951

It basically is the same old shit but now you can blame it all on the feminists when something's shitty.
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>>63512476
I believe is only one samefag. Don't know if baiting or not.
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>>63512951
>Are SJWs even making leeway in games?

are you in a cave somewhere?
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>>63512874
What are you talking about.
I didn't make any argument stating that I believed they re doing this all for a "new female" demographic. I was saying that with the new 52

THEY FUCKED BATGIRL UP. THAT BOOK WAS BORING AS SHIT. AND JUST COMPLETELY GOD AWFUL.
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>>63512970
>yay it's cool to be a circlejerk and spout the same opinions!
>oh no, some anons disagree with us!
>they must be samefag
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>>63512951
Yes and no.
Blizzard doesn't give a fuck
Bioware is sucking lesbian strap on and gay asshole
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>>63512972
Give examples, then
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>>63512924
This fag understands.
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>>63512989
Well when the opinions are uniformly terrible it gets hard to believe that multiple people can actually have them
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>>63512918
It's the feminists who hated girls and mothers, because they think women should act exactly like men, instead of valuing female traits.
These are the people who want put women into dangerous roles, like cops, soldiers, and CEOs, rather than protecting them. They hate women, not us.

>>63512921
>The thing about "strong female character" is that its a very easily misunderstood term.

But feminists aren't letting female heroes be strong because they are stripping them of their sexual attractiveness and sexual power. Instead, they think that in order to be "strong," they have to be exactly like men, or be "smart sassy independent girls who don't need no man"
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>>63512731
Would you, /co/?
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Because some people don't understand what art is, and they think that art should conform to their own particular worldview or set of values.

In this case, people who value practicality and probability in art have trouble understanding different approaches. I bet you dollars to donuts these same people have trouble appreciating something like abstract visual art or high fantasy written art. They try to define art in a way that's meaningful to them without considering that other people find meaning in different ways.

It doesn't help that this particular person doesn't seem to understand anything about practicality nor are they conscious of the entire situation. They added a matte black stripe down the side of the legs for, I assume, camouflage purposes but kept the brightly-colored yellow boots, gloves, bat symbol, and inside of the cape so that she could be spotted easily no matter where she's hiding? Add a cape that snaps on and off but didn't think about how a cape is, in-and-of itself, highly impractical in real-life situations (particularly where gymnastics or acrobatics might be involved)? Keeps her hair flowing freely instead of done up to ensure it doesn't get in her face or get grabbed in a fight? A heavy leather jacket and thick boots that would interfere with movement and weigh her down instead of something light and flexible like sheets of carbon-nanotubes, for instance? The fucking mask isn't even secured on her head, it would go flying off with even moderate activity.
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I'm confused (and haven't read the thread). Do people have a problem with that design or something?
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>>63513042
Oh my god
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>>63512972
Dragonage
World of warcraft
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>>63512958
>Oh my god. Are you serious? How many other titillating characters are out there? So you lose one? BFD.
Feminist in a nutshell. Gotta bug /b/ about another raid. Muh triggers
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>>63512654
>>63512711

This. The new design is a hell of a lot more attractive than the old and bust designs from before. Plus if they're really changing up the art style, that'll be even sexier than lackluster house style faggotry that permeates Batgirl now.


These Batgirl changes make me rigid.
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>>63513065
It's a cute and feminine design so obviously it's evil and terrible

>>63513049
A million times yes
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people only start caring about practicality and realism when they don't like something. people don't give a shit about this in arrow. and this is a costume that actually fits with bab's personality
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>>63512924
I'd say it's less about making everything as practical as possible, but still to some degree about having each character wear something that they themselves think is practical.
Even if they have some good sense, most of them aren't under the command of any central standardization agency, and they all have their own priorities and biases, so I don't expect all of them to be the same even if they did an alright job at trying for practicality.
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>>63513062
It's supposed to look like actual clothing which it does, and the yellow is there because it's always been there

Way to overthink a simple design dude
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>>63513065
Some guys are using the design as a very thinly veiled excuse to bitch about feminists.
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>>63512958
>How many other titillating characters are out there? So you lose one? BFD

It starts with one, but they will gradually sanitize all of them.

>>63512972
Just ask Anita Sarkeesian
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>>63513104
Yeah people want to hate it so they'll rip even the nitpickiest minor things to shreds because they can't find any real flaws
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I was wondering where all the spergs that constantly bitch about 4chan and tumblr had gotten to.

Do remain in your containment threads. Thank you.
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>Tumblr SJWs complain about costumes being unrealistic and impractical
Oh no! Hear the voice of people! We must quickly change these costumes!
>/co/ complains about costumes being unrealistic and impractical
But it's still cute! Fuck off, you virgins
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>>63513127
same as every other day on the internet
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>>63513049
Like the fist of an angry New God
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>>63513049
Yes, and when I get a boner to make sex with Barda, it is with three billion dicks.
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It was either on House to Astonish or SILENCE!, they were talking about what makes the New 52 Superman costume so stupid.

They said that superhero costumes have never been made from "material", because it didn't matter. Since it was fiction and drawn Superman's tights basically ARE his skin for all intents and purposes.

But in a movie, you're working with real materials so you have to add texture and practicality to the suit or it'll look stupid; in real life tights don't look like skin, they look like tights.

The problem arises when, because of the success of the movies, artists think they now have to add extraneous detail and functionality to the DRAWN characters as well, and this just comes off as fucking retarded like in Superman's new costume with all the random lines and pads on it.

In the case of Babs it's similarly misguided, it's meant to answer a question nobody asked, and the functionality of a costume doesn't come into question until you try to add functionality to it. It just raises more new questions, like where does she keep all those batarangs, how does she get them so fast, where's all the hundreds of feet of rope she must need, can those boots even keep good traction, etc.

It's more fuel to this completely pointless "realism" movement that the movie going casuals are bringing with them.
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fuck you mra faggot

u should be raped

- totally a feminist and not an mra false-flagging faggot, like you fags are known for
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>>63513124

The problem is that this particular design was drawn up using "practicality" as an excuse, yet it's a terribly impractical design as well. In fact, I'd argue that this new design is hardly any more practical than whichever original design it's meant to replace.
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>>63513127

No, no, they're not bitching. They're crusading against the overwhelming power of tumblr, which will apparently sanitize everything that exists until no fun is allowed again, forever!
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>>63513169
I laughed
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>>63513153

>Tumblr SJWs complain about costumes being unrealistic and impractical for stupid reasons

Fuck off.

>/co/ complain about costumes being unrealistic and impractical for stupid reasons

Fuck off.

>Anyone complains about costumes being unrealistic and impractical for legitimate reasons

Okay.
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>>63513049
Who the fuck wouldn't?
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You know this could have been an ogn or something like Earth 1 and did okay but they are not going to pull in outside readers with #35 on the cover and the hipster shit does not sell well with current readers as seen with Young Avengers. It will be a slow death for this book from here on out.
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>>63512958
>This is a younger looking, more cheerful Babs, who still has a rocking rack under that jacket. How the fuck is this any less attractive? My god, do you have no sense of foreplay, or the chase before the catch? Pic related
I agree with this, there is nothing wrong with leaving things to the imagination.
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>>63512817
>>63512835
No thanks, Lord Samefag.

>>63512822
This. The editor in charge of the Batbooks at the time should be fucking fired.

OH WAIT

>>63512866
>Not that anon, but men are the primary readers of comic books anyway, so it's normal for comics to appeal to them, while trying to appeal to people who don't even care about them and make fun of them is the real pandering.
It is normal, but that doesn't mean it's not clear, obvious pandering. The costume was designed by a woman, one who clearly enjoys superhero comics considering she's drawing them. What's wrong with her and Stewart as well making a design suited to their tastes? And hell, even if it was mandated, what's wrong with trying to appeal to a slightly differet demographic?

>And, evolutionary theory even states that females are supposed to be attractive because their survival depends on access to male providers, and male gene survival depends on them getting women, so it's more natural for girls to be sexy.
And how is a form-fitting leather jacket like this not sexy? Is it because it doesn't have her boobs in a vice grip? She's still clearly attractive.

And also, how the fuck does that mean that all female superhero costumes should accentuate their sexuality? There's more to women than that.

You have a weird view of women.
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>>63513115
That's what I was kinda getting at. Practicality in terms of "what is best for my defense" isn't the goal here. It's about personal style of the character matching trends in fashion today.

And personal defense isn't the goal because it all trends in the same direction which becomes boring. Can't change up shoulder and knee pads. And when you try to it starts to lose it's practicality (see every fucking "Knight" design)
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but the other outfit was seeker

I don't get it, why is my entertainment media telling me I can't like sexystuff
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>>63513194

>Sanitise everything

All this from wearing a fucking leather jacket instead of tight spandex.

The funniest part is she's still wearing spandex on her legs.
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>>63513202
>Judge has more Chiang Barda

Miracles
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>>63513005
But Bioware has always tried to do that. Look up Juhani.
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>>63513180
>tumblr.com meme
Get back
Get back
Get back to where you once belonged
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>>63512048
>/co/
>defdending boobsocks
never change
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>>63513230

>but the other outfit was seeker

*but the other outfit was SEXIER

stupid autocorrect
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"removing the Homestuck General would improve the board" they said
"there will be less shitposting" they said
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>>63513192
It's a jacket, pants and boots, I don't see how that's somehow not more practical than the one piece tacticool suit she had
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>>63513083
>MUH FEMINISM
Make a goddamn counterargument. Is is an inaccurate point? I ask as someone who raged at original New 52 Peej's lack of a tit window. Babs's old costume was Lee line trash. THis new one looks cute, and fun, and I couldn't be happier about it. Does Babs wearing a motorcycle mean every other female character is going to put on a burka? No. You'll still have almost every other character, as well as an internet's worth of rule 34 of old Babs. Besides, you're out of your mind if you don't think there is going to be some great new content that can be made with this costume. Again, get some damn imagination.
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>>63513267
On condition that you go back to reddit, sure.
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>>63513272

I'm pretty sure it's just a small handful of really angry guys.

Personally, I'm all for more outfits that actually look like outfits. Though the bent belt doesn't do it for me at all.
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>>63512866
That was so /r9k/ I temporarily became a goon.

>>63513042
Tyrone Gayblade pls
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So, to summarize:

"This is a victory for feminists and SJWs everywhere, fuck comic book fans!"

Versus:

"This is all because of feminists and SJWs! They ruin everything"

I like the outfit.
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>>63513254
Silly anon, that's her husband!
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>>63513049
>poor man's Wonder Woman
Not even with a stolen dick.
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>>63513272
I don't like boobsocks.

I just don't like hypocrisy and lying either.
SJWs were all like "we want a practical realistic costume", when instead all they wanted was a hipster trendy one.
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>>63513232
>The funniest part is she's still wearing spandex on her legs.

>not tight leather pants

It's like you don't even know sexy.
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>>63513230
Nothing is telling you you can't like sexy stuff. They're just offering something different to the same old sexy stuff we've already seen dozens of times before.
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>>63513301
I swear Dr Pyscho would make a really cool villain.

Mostly because just around the net you see guys with his EXACT personality. It's uncanny.
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>>63513299
Why? I'm not posting Reddit memes here
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>>63512542
This is the only way to make the feminists happy.

>>63512594
Exactly. Feminists are afraid of real strong female characters who use their sexiness because they are all envious landwhales
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>>63513313
>SJWs were all like "we want a practical realistic costume"
[citation needed]
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>>63512958
>Also, what the hell is the Hawkeye initiative?

A funny website about how a lot of comic book artists have no fucking clue about anatomy.
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>>63513313
Narrative practicality anon.

a story that goes out of its way to throw tits at you doesn't respect you as a reader.

What actual service to the armature is onde by having magical form fitting boobsocks?


Sebastian is acrab that can talk because the premise requires Ariel being from a kingdom of fish

Batman's tires are pumped so he can use the batmobile.

In what way do latex tittays service the narrative?
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>>63512048
>Now I ask you to defend it somehow on that basis.

Making girls sexy is oppression!
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>>63513287
Her movement and flexibility are restricted, her footsteps are more audible, she'll have less stability on small leges and any other place requiring her to be nimble of foot; which, this being a Batgirl design is kind of fucking important.

I mean, are you trying to be a retarded asshole?
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>>63512958
>Also, what the hell is the Hawkeye initiative?

Artist redraw cheesecake covers with hawkeye instead of the female on display.
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>>63513312
>implying Diana the virgin can compare to the Four Post Fury that is Barda
Get a load of this guy, anons.
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Is this what will replace "DC is so edgy and grimderp what happened to fun" shitposting?
Because if so, I already miss the Squirrel Girl wanker.
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>>63512189
If the SJWs have there way, we'll also have an all minority Justice League that fights evil corporations and saves us from global warming and hobby lobby.
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>>63513312
>implying Barda isn't strictly superior to Wonder Woman

Better origin, more interesting background, taller, more sci-fi, better outfits, more easily adapted into other media effectively.

Barda > Diana
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>>63513294
But the purpose wasn't to redesign a costume; the idea is to shame to shame fans and artists into self-censoring their interest in sex appeal.
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>>63513357
So, are you one of these guys who opposed Superman's and Batman's shorts-and-leggings classic look?
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>>63513357
It's not about narrative, it's about sales, and tits and ass=sales.

You want lower profits for no discernable reason except "I don't like tits". Which makes you a fucking Muslim psychotic or something.
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>>63513357
>In what way do latex tittays service the narrative?

Latex titties totally service the narrative. And by narrative, I er-ah mean my dick.
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This costume isn't even significantly less sexy than her old one. Big deal, they got rid of the body paint top. That jacket is still form-fit, you could still trace the outline of her hourglass with your tongue if you were so inclined. Plus nice tights on the legs. This costume falls just shy of classy.
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>>63513368

There are far more fucking retarded costume designs which /co/ never even mentions.
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>>63513311
>he has at least 47 Barda pics
>both so far are totally based

Would it be dishonorable to make this a Barda thread?
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>>63513368
If we're going full autist here, then:

>Her movement and flexibility are restricted
Not that much. There was fuckin' metal or whatever was all over her costume before. That couldn't have contributed to her mobility in any meaningful capacity. Leather's really not that flexibility-restricting if it's loose, either.

>her footsteps are more audible
What the fuck how

These boots are the same kinds of combat boots as before

>she'll have less stability on small leges and any other place requiring her to be nimble of foot
Her old boots were bulky too.
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>>63513399
>lol this is 4chan so i have to act like a retard right
No, you don't. Please, try not to be a faggot.
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>dem piercings

Mmm, I hope those stay
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So, how is turning a competent intellectual disabled heroine into a trendy partygirl socialite, a victory for feminism again?
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>>63513417
Listen, tripshit, I'm not comparing this with some arbitrary design you want to stack it up against, I'm comparing it against the ideal.

So shut the fuck up.

Stupid goddamn nigger.
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>>63513413

Yes, as we're not allowed to enjoy titties.
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>>63513394
Holy crap, could you keep your projections to yourself? You just spilled some on my shoe.
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>>63513465
I mean, look at this pic. The top looks identical except there's a zipper on the front now. How could anyone get this asspained over something so dumb? Taking away Zatanna's fishnets and PG's boob window, those were battles worth fighting.
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>>63513494
Feminists either want female characters who are crippled/battling cancer/dealing with being minorities, or ones that cover themselves up like Muslims.

They don't want sexy empowered ones, though. Just weak ones.
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>>63513368
No I just don't think things like that are really applicable in a comic book
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>>63513533
Aw, dang
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>>63513494
/thread
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>>63513494
SJWs are threatened by competent people who actually work their ass off to be good at what they do

Womanchildren are easier to relate for them
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>>63513516
You said
>more audible
>less mobility
Words that denote comparison. So, naturally, I figured that you were comparing it to the design that came before.

>So shut the fuck up.
>Stupid goddamn nigger.
W-why are you so angry, anon
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>>63513382
Yes, in October with stuff like Batgirl and Gotham Academy I expect more "feminists ruining muh DC why can't everything be gritty and sexy again??" shitposting
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>>63512048
>Lets give Batgirl a little boy body in a hijab drawn by an affirmative action chick artist! that'll show men!
--SJWs
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>>63513494
>socialite!!!
You again?
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>>63513413
Never. As someone who loves new Babs, I decree that there is nothing wrong with enjoying a less objectified costume, while also enjoying a solid pair of tits. Share away, based anon.
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There is only one rule to character designs: "does it look good?"

That's it. Everything else is secondary.
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>>63513494
>thinking someone smart can't be a trendy partygirl socialite
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>>63513494
Because you icky boys can't ogle her tits now! Neener-neener! Girls rule boys drool!
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>>63513599
Good thing they didn't do any of those things then huh
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/Co/ isn't what it used to be. This thread is proof that SJWs have conquered it.

>We Tumblr now
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>>63513494
this fucking guy
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Was this design formulated to make her more attractive to pederasts?
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>>63513634
You are somehow actively making this thread even worse than it already is

Stop
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>>63513621
>can't ogle her tits now
But you can.
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>>63512567

Usually new comic runs start off with "here's what you need to know, now let's get on to the new shit"
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>>63513647
No, don't be stupid.
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>>63513631
She's virtually indistinguishable from a Robin.

Where is anything that indicates she's even a girl in this design?
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>>63513613
Thanks. I mostly just want to provoke Judge Anon into sharing his stash
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>>63513617
She was a great example of a hero using their wits to fight crime

Now she's a great example of a 20-something wanting to be a teenager by immersing herself in "youth culture", while not caring about justice
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>>63513494
Yeah, at least when we had Oracle, she was still allowed to be sexy.

Pic related. Based Guillem March. He actually knows how to draw a female body in a nice and proper way, rather than making them look like little boys.
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>>63513647
She doesn't look particularly childlike so probably not

The artist looks pretty good with fine adult women at least
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Gooks and kikes look good on spikes.
Head of a spic belongs on a stick.
Sic Doberman Pinschers on penny-pinchers.
Shoot tar babies like dogs with rabies
14/88
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>>63513621
Modern feminism in a nutshell.
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>>63513673
Ahh, that was your plan all along! And now you post a picture of her with an eyepatch!
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>>63513677
>She was a great example of a hero using their wits to fight crime
Gail Simone's Batgirl? No.
>Now she's a great example of a 20-something wanting to be a teenager by immersing herself in "youth culture", while not caring about justice
Young adults do young adult things, grandpa.
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>>63513641
>>63513611
Yeah, me! Another anon who doesn't automatically agree with your circlejerk
Shocking, right?
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>>63513677
You have not read the comic. It's not even out yet.

Stop being stupid.
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>>63513672
>Where is anything that indicates she's even a girl in this design?
The visible curvy bust line, the hips that are accentuated by the jacket and the belt, the eyelashes, the full lips, the long hair are all pretty good indicators that there's a girl wearing that jacket
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>>63513494
Why can't she be both?

>>63513672
Indistinguishable from Tim, maybe...

>>63513689
>Guillem March
>Nice and proper way
Please stop trolling. March's anatomy is horrible and his women look freaky and deformed. And I actually like his art otherwise.
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>>63513690
Jesus fucking christ dude this is disgusting.

A gap-toothed whore with messy hair is somehow a "fine adult woman" to you?
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>>63513719
Your posts just stick out because they're fucking stupid and deliberately obtuse, is all
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>>63513397
It hides there dicks.

We've been over this anon
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>>63513677
>Simone Batgirl
>Wits
Simone's Batgirl made Hal Jordan and Sam Alexander look like geniuses, anon
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>>63513647
Only if they thought pederasts are unfamiliar with how well a jacket can contain the beasts that are beefy bosoms.
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I don't understand what people are mad about. Her tits don't look as big? Who gives a shit?
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>>63513695
I can be pretty dastardly when I'm feeling up to it

SHIVASAURUS!
SHIVASAURUS!
SHIVASAURUS!
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>>63513716
>Gail Simone's Batgirl? No.
Oracle. Simone's Batgirl was shit.
>Young adults do young adult things, grandpa.
She's a womanchild in her 20s who acts like a teenager.

>>63513721
I'm discussing the pitch. Why would you pitch your hero as somehting different from what you've planned for her?
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>>63513673
>does Darkseid knee pads
I wasn't ready.
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>>63513736
Uh, yeah? Gap teeth are cute dude
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>>63513399
That was me speaking as a creator, from an economic standpoint you can justify anything; doesnt make it okay.

For example illegal oligopsony. very profitable. Totally fucking evil.

But then thats really a question f what you care more about. good comics, or DC's pocketbook.
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>>63512874
That reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Lisa created a new Malibu Stacy doll and it didn't sell because the market (children) just wanted dolls to play with, not a soapbox.

I see this trend happening in games and comics and I think the end result will be poor sales.
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>>63513764
because this is more disgusting Muslim shit.

I like women who aren't afraid to show off their bodies; they have nothing to be ashamed of; but this design sends the exact opposite message.

it's Islamic-friendly cultural war and I'm fucking disgusted by it.
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>>63513764
Read the thread instead of generalizing. Different people are mad about different things here.
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>>63513799
>cultural war
OReilly pls
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>>63513754
Oracle.
Simone's Batgirl is shit.
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>>63513806
Yeah, they're all differently mad over equally stupid things.
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>>63513799
>Islamic-friendly cultural war
My sides
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>>63513799
*tips fedora*
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>>63513774
Just for that, you fucker, you're getting a new thread: >>63513844
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>>63513829
Welcome to /co/.
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>>63513827
I do really miss Oracle, but when written properly Babsgirl can still use her wits. IE Year One.

Also, she's clearly still going to care about justice. This is a damn cape book.
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>>63513776
>Oracle. Simone's Batgirl was shit.
That ship sailed over three years ago. It's not coming back.
>She's a womanchild in her 20s who acts like a teenager.
At least DC's finally trying to be contemporary. This is what millennials living in the city are like.
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>>63513799
>Islamic-friendly cultural war
HAHAHAHAHOLY SHIT
>>>/pol/
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>>63513764
It's mostly one (three at best) samefag from the previous threads and a bunch of gullible idiots who will respond to him no matter what.
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>>63513647
They're a huge market.

>>63513672
>Where is anything that indicates she's even a girl in this design?

No, because, as Anita Sarkeesian says, making girls look feminine is bad. They should look exactly like men. That's why Mrs. Pac Man is evil. She has a pink bow.
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>>63513799
she still looks good. and due to this picture >>63513465 we can probably expect so see some skin where the jacket meets the pants during acrobatics
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>>63513821
>>63513834
>>63513877
Who else goes out of their way to cover up women in this fashion?

Don't you fags love "slutwalks" and shit like that?
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>>63513854
Bless you dear Judge
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>>63513872
>I do really miss Oracle, but when written properly Babsgirl can still use her wits. IE Year One.
Okay, maybe. We can hope, I guess...
>Also, she's clearly still going to care about justice. This is a damn cape book.
The pitch literally says she doesn't. There are some mysteries, and sometimes she's forced to fight crime, but she doesn't really want to. She just wanna have fun

>>63513873
>This is what millennials living in the city are like.
Some of them, sure. But I find it hard to believe that a 20-something intellectual accomplished competent female crimefighters would act like that.
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>>63512960

If you have direct evidence prove that DC used your intensely unique copyrighted design that in no way looks nothing like some stupid hybrid of Bane wearing a purple Robin costume... which they then used for Batgirl, a character of the opposite sex whose designs have often featured these colors since 1967...

...No.
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>>63513896
>everyone should agree with our circlejerk, or else we'll brand them as "samefag"
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>>63513399
>tits and ass=sales

On the micro-scale.

What these companies are slowly realizing is that they've alienated almost all the normal people that MIGHT get into comics nowadays due to it being more acceptable to get into nerd stuff. Their audiences are dwindling because they've been composed primarily of the same bunch of aging dudes for the last few decades, and those people can't sustain the industry forever. Cape comics have to change to survive - they can't rely on the movies to tug people in, because the moment normal people read stuff with heavy T&A fanservice, they frown and put the book down, deciding - quite rationally - that what they are reading is not meant for a person with taste.

There is a REASON why comics are often thought of as materials fit primarily for the lowest of nerds, and the excessive fanservice crap is it. It shits all over any narrative you might be trying to construct, ruining tension and atmosphere with imagery that may draw in the same sphere of aging losers in the short term, but is actively damaging the longevity of cape comics in the long term. Marvel and DC cannot survive - at least, their comics can't survive - forever with their current modus operandi in place. They have to change or they are going to die. Or just turn into film studios.
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>>63513799
This.

Don't be surprised if Supergirl gets a hijab.

Because the prude feminist muslims don't want men to find girls sexy
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>>63513952
>But I find it hard to believe that a 20-something intellectual accomplished competent female crimefighters would act like that.
All of New 52 Batgirl's accomplishments are from Simone and they were awful. This is an upgrade.
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>>63513854
Judge, you've done God's work this day. Many thanks.
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>>63513896
>a lot of anons agreeing with each others
not samefag
>some anons disagree
samefag!

I like your logic
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>>63512048
>A leather jacket is no more protective than a skin-tight fabric made of fictional high-strength materials; if anything it's lesser protection.

True. That's why you always see Hell's Angels wearing leotards when they pass you on the road.
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>>63513850
I'm not even an atheist you illiterate cocksucker, I'm just against Islamic cultural takeover because it in no way serves the interests of any free people.
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>>63514001
Try not writing

in exactly the same style

samefag
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>>63514023
Hell's Angels are men. They're not who we're talking about when we're talking about covering up WOMEN
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>>63513872
>>63513873
>>63513827
Personally I don't even want the wheelchair back. An experienced Babs acting as operator/leader for Cass (the muscle) and Steph (the wildcard) would be so fucking neat.
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>>63513494
The furor over Barbara's un-disabling got lost in Nu52's white noise of shit. It was so long ago that people don't really give a fuck about it.
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>>63514036
>Islamic cultural takeover
>Islam being given the same cultural prominance offered to Christianity
FTFY
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>>63512048
Just because it tries to go for a more practical look, why do we have to hold it to a higher standard than your typical hero costume, which at times boggle the mind more than the feats of the hero themselves.
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>>63513799
>Islamic

Her hair is visible you retard.

Also,
>>63514001
My little fag can't be this same.
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>>63514001
>>63513799
No, it's just women wanting to have more leverage over men
Nowadays all they have is sex. Soon it'll be just showing a tiny bit of skin
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>>63514044
>>63514093
He's not a samefag. I didn't say that.
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>>63514044
>>63514093
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>>63514126
>Implying Muslim Supergirl wouldn't be adorbs as fuck.
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>>63513799
Sorry you've been jaded by oversexualized heroines, they might be great to look at, but I like my women respectable.
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>>63513317
That's silly. Why would I like something less sexy when I can have the same thing, but more sexy.

>>63513475
> body - paint
even the way you frame it is meant to ridicule

>>63513541
I'm not ashamed, but i don't want to be ostracized by the community for my interests
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>bait thread
>300 replies

cmon /co/
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>>63514071
I don't get what you're saying.
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>>63514152
Get in the fucking oven, kike. Your war on western civilization is not going to succeed.
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Just noting.

This costume, in real life, would be considered pretty high on the form-fitting table and pretty sexy in general. It's only desexed or whatever by the kinda insane standards of cape comics, where female costumes stop a fraction of an inch before showing off some serious cameltoe.

This is what a sexy yet covering outfit looks like in reality. It not being bodypaint doesn't mean it isn't sexual.
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>>63514153
Why do you Puritan amerifats always think that a woman wearing sexy clothes is "shameful" and "disrespectful"?
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>>63514153
You like them to resemble flat-chested underage boys?
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>>63514176
>Jews advocating Muslims
Okayyy.
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>>63514153
Cassandra was respectable.
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>>63514218
They advocate for destroying European culture whenever possible.
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Skimpy clothes were a-okay when they contradicted Christian morals

Now skimpy clothes are bad and shameful because they contradict Muslim morals

Do the math
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>>63514126
>actually using Photon
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>>63514199
You ever seen a woman wearing a jacket, anon?

Normal clothes don't stick to you like clingfilm. A woman is hardly flat-chested when you can't see the entire silhouette of her breasts.
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What's the point of the cape, anyway? Wouldn't it just be a completely impractical weak point of the costume?

At least Batman has the excuse that his cape lends to the whole strike-fear-into-criminals shtick, but Barbara isn't scary.
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>>63514036

Christfag pls go. Being scared that you're no longer going to be the dominant religion is no reason to be a whiny cunt.

If you want to be a whiny cunt then you can go to tumblr where you belong.
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>>63514238
>Jews support destroying Western culture

Who the fuck would sell them weapons to kill Muslims?
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>>63514282
Rejoice!
Christianity that forced women to wear slightly restrictive clothes, gave them slightly less rights, and lectured sinners is gone!
Hail Islam that forces women to wear hijabs, gives them even less rights, and stones sinners to death!
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>>63514170
That's nothing, there were four obvious bait threads about the exact same topic that hit autosage yesterday
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>>63514238

France pls go.
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>>63514335
non.
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>>63514267
>You ever seen a woman wearing a jacket, anon?
Well not in real life
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>>63514294
They're more interested in creating more Muslims and using them to destroy Europe.
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>>63514320
Feminists usually act like spoiled teenage girls.
They'll settle with the most abusive boyfriend, as long as daddy hates him
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>wearing a leather jacket into combat scenarios where you need to be flexible and acrobatic in order to be effective

Leather padding inside a flexible suit is one thing, but a fully leather jacket seems like a bad idea. Jason only got away with it because he at least left his unzipped all the time so it was less restrictive.
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>>63514320
Christian fundies want the same things for women as Islamic fundies, you're only lying to yourself
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>>63513952
>The pitch literally says she doesn't. There are some mysteries, and sometimes she's forced to fight crime, but she doesn't really want to. She just wanna have fun
It says that she wants to try to have a normal life, get something to ground her, alongside her cape stuff. It makes sense. Clark has his reporter work, so it makes sense that Babs would want to immerse herself in this culture while she's in college.

>>63514055
Oh God, yeah.

>Batgirl: Leader, tactician and organizer
>Black Bat: Muscle, "negotiator", all-round badass
>Spoiler: Wild card, newbie crimefighter, nimble acrobat
>Bluebird: Infiltrator and technician

>>63514180
This.

Plus, this artist has frequently done softcore porn, so...
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>>63514248
>Skimpy clothes were a-okay when they contradicted Christian morals
No they weren't. For years people have called superhero books overly-objectifying.
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>>63514385
When did any Christian fundie advocate:
>forcing women to cover their whole body
>stoning sinners to death
>forbidding unwed men and women to even touch each other
etc?
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>>63514071
KLK kamui designs were a triumph despite the initial outrage. They became iconic and ultimately well-liked. The amount of fanart they generated from all kinds of fanarts, from grils to otaku perverts, was huge.
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>>63514320

>wanting women to have more rights
>wanting women to be allowed to dress like whores

And people say tumblr isn't invading. You feminist cunts need to fuck off back to your whiny little blogs.
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>>63514431
>fanartists*
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>>63514445
Tumblr, you're not fooling anyone.
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>>63514157
>I'm not ashamed, but i don't want to be ostracized by the community for my interests
Get on my fucking level then. I'm all about female empowerment, could easily be described as a SJW, and love New Babs. Do I love seeing a sexy as fuck drawing of a comic girl? Absolutely! Will I check out bikini babes at the beach? Of course! If my bros invite me to join them at a strip club, am I going to bitch about the objectification of woman? Never! I take umbrage with things I feel are wrong, but know what I like, and like it. I'm sure complainers feel they are being deprived of what they like, but I just think you guys are blowing this shit SO out of proportion! A leaf falls in Autumn, and you guys are talking like the sky is coming down with it! The book has been mediocre at best since issue #1, and the costume, while a solid base, was one of the worse sufferers of Lee lines of all New 52 redesigns. This new one looks new, and fresh, and fun, as does everything else about this new direction of the book, but all you guys can complain about is that you can't see the detailed outline of her tits, and how this is feminism coming after you, trying to shame you. Do I enjoy seeing a great shot of based Barbara's based tits? Of course! They were some of the first I ever cherished. Do I feel deprived that I won't get to see them as detailed anymore, or ashamed for liking them? What a stupid fuckig question! I'm too busy imagining how hot and sweaty they're going to get in that thick leather jacket, and how dirty Babs is going to feel after a night of crime fighting, and how she's going to want to take a shower when she gets home, and...
Jeez, anon. Get on my fucking level.
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>>63514320
Leftists are all spoiled children, didn't you know?

What they are doing is like kid calling social services because their parents won't buy them candy. If they get their way, they'll go to cramped, poor foster home, but they are too stupid to see one step ahead.
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>>63514428
Fundamentalist Christians regularly advocate all of that today.

You realize that head coverings for women were common throughout much of Christendom, right? The whole headscarf thing began pretty much divorced from religious connotation, but was incorporated into various religions much in the way that popular traditions often are. Christians in the Middle East still regularly enforce that particular custom.
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>>63514320

>m-muh women's rights

Tumblr pls go.
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>>63514294
The mixed multitude that is in Europe.
The Muslims won't stay Muslim, they'll go Atheist eventually. It just won't be European
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>>63514474

>I-I'm not tumblr, YOU are

Haha oh wow. Fuck off tumblrcunt.
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Stay gold, /co/.
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>>63514393
>including Bluebird

I like you, Anon
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>>63514524
[citations needed]

As for the headscarf, does any fundie Christian actually advocate for women to cover their entire body today?
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>>63514485
Shut the fuck up asshole this isn't your blog.
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>>63514487
I'm pretty goddamn left and I know damn good and well that any child of mine who called social services, will need them for doing it. I'm not raising any pussies. If I can manage to do anything, it would be to teach them to be like Commander Badass, only I won't expect them to be physical exemplars.
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>>63514627
You seem upset.
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>>63514626

No because they've been brainwashed by feminists. Muslims are about the only people who aren't under the control of the SJWs at this point.
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>>63514180
>This costume, in real life, would be considered pretty high on the form-fitting table and pretty sexy in general.
>This is what a sexy yet covering outfit looks like in reality.
How is it sexy? Jsut because a human with a vagina is wearing it? It doesn't make the outfit sexy, you know
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>>63514627

>being this mad

Tumblr pls go.
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>>63514626
1 Corinthians 11:2-16

If you want examples of head coverings in Christendom, just do an image search. Note that Christian women as late as the Hundred Years War period are commonly depicted with their hair covered.
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>>63514611
>Bluebird
>New Batgirl

What is this, Bonerkill League? Neither of them even look like chicks.
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>>63514702

>skin tight pants with slim-fitting bomber jacket and doc martins

Nah that's pretty sexy.
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>>63514721
Whatever, queer
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>>63514704
You fail at pretending, tumblrcunt.
Attacking a self-proclaimed SJW is not what Tumblr would do, so it makes no sense to accuse that anon of being Tumblr.
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>>63512048

You say the design of the costume is confined by practicality (even though there is no evidence states that is what they are going for), and then you go on to say nothing about the costume is practical
So which is it?
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>>63514734
>slim-fitting
>skinhead boots
>"skin-tight" pants that somehow make her ass rectangular and boxy
>sexy

Get the fuck out.
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>>63514626
No, but many insist that women should cover their hair, primarily due to certain lines found in Corinthians and most classical Christian imagery depicting women with their heads covered.

Christianity has never dictated that there should be full coverage because it was never concentrated in an area where that was practical.
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>>63514720
>1 Corinthians 11:2-16
Only when praying or prophesizing
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>>63514721
Kids these days. You entitled little fucks just want everything handed to you. In my day we imagined what was under the clothes, and 9/10 times it was hotter than the real thing. Don't know what I mean? See January Jones.
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>>63512048
>Why is it at all necessary that the ouftiting of low-fantasy characters be confined by practicality?
Because you get lots of faggots with no imagination who want superhero comics to be about MUH REALISM and other gay shit.
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>>63514721
shame on you for being attracted to women, goy. that's SEXIST.
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>>63514759
They've claimed this design is supposed to be "more practical".

That is an obvious lie.

The only available conclusion is that they wanted to get rid of everything men could possibly like about Batgirl's design.
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>>63514768
Tight pants aren't spats, anon. They don't flesh out the entire ass IRL.
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I like it. I wouldn't feel weird buying a comic with this Batgirl on the cover for my niece.
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>>63513169
And when I screech in premature ejaculation, it is with six billion voices.
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>>63514822
Batgirl's ass became a literal box.
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>>63514822
This conversation is getting pretty fucking /fa/ guys.
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>>63514847
>Comics should be for kids!
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>>63514788
Matter of interpretation. Many have taken it as demanding a basic standard of decency.

It was certainly very common for Christian women to cover their heads throughout roughly 500+ years of the religion's history, especially in the Middle East, where Christians generally still do it today.

A lot of the traits we associate with Islam are more Middle Eastern things, really. For example, Arabic Christians generally call God Allah.
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I'm stoked to check out the new direction

http://www.tencentticker.com/projectrooftop/2014/07/11/fan-art-friday-the-new-batgirl/
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>>63514847
>Think of the children!
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>>63514847
Then buy a kid's book. Barbara Gordon will never be for children, due to being fapbait.
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>>63514847
is your niece a Muslim who hates any woman who looks identifiably female?
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>>63514861
Those aren't tight pants, dude. That's not something people wear on the street, or in any situation that doesn't involve them performing a very specific sport.
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>>63514866
>Comics are for grown-ups now!
>>
Seriously, I think /co/ is more mad with the pitch, than it will be mad with the actual character.
Because pitches are usually really fucking obnoxious.

The same thing happened with Kamala.
Obnoxious pitch, cute character.
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>>63514917
>Obnoxious pitch, even more obnoxious character.
Fixed.
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>>63514906
Um, yes, sorry if you missed the last 30 years or so
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>>63514904
>Pants can't be shaped like an ass!
Look at the fucking angles on Babs' ass you monogoloid idiot.

It became a rectilinear object.
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>>63514817
Going by this thread, past threads, and my opinion on the costume, I'd say there are plenty of men who support this redesign, and it's definitely not because of the practicality of it all.
Dare I say people actually like a costume that isn't equivalent to black bodypaint?
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>>63514931
>>63514935
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>>63514611
I know /co/ has some problems with her, but I think she's a damn good character with a temperament unique within the Batfamily.

also imagine the banter between her and Steph, with Steph's more lively, angry sarcasm and Harper's colder, more cynical, more detatched wit
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>>63514937
I-is that a tear in the crotch in the pants covering dat ass?
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>>63514937
Totally different type of legwear there. Not even remotely the same kind of material the writer is going for.

Also, yeah, there are limits. This is tight to the point that it's form fitting but you can still believably run and perform acrobatics in it, which isn't the case in your picture. It's also pretty clearly more durable and warmer than your previous image.

It's pretty much in the perfect spot.
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>>63514966
What?
Comics for adults means less restriction because of "think of the children" fags like >>63514847
Basically, more fun that way
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>>63514954
what a qt
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>>63514954
That would be to suggest that someone else's tastes are just as valid as your own, which is anathema to most /co/mrades' way of thinking.
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>>63514966
>Kamala
>fun
Hellcat was fun, because she was balanced enough to have enough quirk to be fun and not be bloody irritating. Something Kamala isn't.
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>>63514758

>trying this hard to pretend you're not tumblr

That's literally all tumblr does is bitch at each other for not being enough of a SJW. Try again tumblrcunt, I've been on 4chan long enough to spot your kind xir.
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>>63515007
They've completely smoothed over every secondary sexual characteristic she has.

She looks like a bony teenage boy.

This is not only Muslim shit, it's pederastic Muslim shit.

Fuck you.
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>>63514954
5 years later:

>Going by this thread, past threads, and my opinion on the costume, I'd say there are plenty of men who support this redesign, and it's definitely not because of the practicality of it all.
>Dare I say people actually like a costume that isn't indecently hinting at the shape of her body?
>>
>>63514758

Tumblr pls go.
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>>63515015
>redhead
>cutie
I bet you also think blondes are anything but scum of the Earth.
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>>63514982
Nah just some loose strings.
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>>63514758

You tumblrfags are so fucking pathetic. That anon found you out. Instead of doubling down why don't you just fuck off.
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>>63515053
Please no bully Captain Britain
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>>63512048
there's nothing 'practical' about this costume in the first place.

if anything she'd have to go for a more riot police outfit to be more 'practical'.
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>>63515061
I do like blonde girls
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>>63515034
>>63515059
Still trying to turn "gb2tumblr" into a meaningless meme by using it against tumblr-haters?
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>>63514954
>Dare I say people actually like a costume that isn't equivalent to black bodypaint?
Do you only like it because you can't tell she's a girl?
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>>63514758
This would make sense if not for the fact that the self described SJW also admitted to holding opinions and preferences that make Tumblr fatties go full A BLOO BLOO BLOO
Tumblr wouldn't attack a SJW, but it sure as shit would attack a guy who enjoys the tit as an institution.
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>>63512048

For a newbie, it's very practical.

For a person that has been fighting for years, it is not. And for somebody that has been shot in the spine, leaving her middle exposed (every time she lifts her arms the jacket goes up) is pretty stupid.
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>>63515038
Her tits are quite clearly there, anon. As is her ass.

You can't see the entire outline of these things, because this is more like actual clothing than the bodypaint superheroines generally wear, but if that's little boy tier then I guess this is too.
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>>63515013
>>63515030
>To be individuals, we must all wear black.
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>>63515079
>>63515059
>>63515034
I see a sameopinion spam, attacking a tumblr-hater. This is a tumblr tactic, just saiyan
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>>63512224
>after all these decades.

Didn't she spend two decades as Oracle?
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>>63515063
Oh...well it's not like I was looking forward to my bunk or anything...
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>>63515122
It is. Nothing about this is attractive. It's plain and flavorless and inspires no eyeballing whatsoever, which is antithetical to a visual medium.

You people are so fucking stupid.
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>>63515125
How is this relevant to anything?
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>>63515125
Why the fuck are you even quoting me?
I said nothing of the sort.
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>>63515122
>responding seriously to /pol/ bait
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>>63513494

cause it's cute
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>>63514969
>dat Spoilertext

I agree
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>>63515013
Less restriction has largely meant more angst and graphic violence and not much else. At least this book doesn't look like yet another example of grimderp pandering.
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>>63513401
I totally want to er-ah invade that bay of pigs
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>>63515122
>Her tits are quite clearly there, anon. As is her ass.

>You can't see the entire outline of these things, because this is more like actual clothing than the bodypaint superheroines generally wear, but if that's little boy tier then I guess this is too.
>>
Is Barbara still supposed to be an adult? I don't think the costume is bad, it just looks like something a teen girl would wear, not an adult.

So, Steph would probably rock the look. Babs should stick to something a little different, I think.
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>>63515181
>Angry long-haired teenage boy poses for trading card photo
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>>63515194
>grimderp
And here I thought this shit thread couldn't get any worse.
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>>63514954
I want to cum in her mouth
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>>63515132

So is generalizing everyone that disagrees with you as a means of deflecting the argument, tumblrfag. Keep trying though, maybe you'll be able to convince all these anons that you're not a whiny cunt from tumblr by acting like an even whinier cunt.

But seriously, tumblr go.
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>>63515194
Hey, a time traveller from 1987!
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>>63515030
Where on the bear did the Muslims touch you, Anon?
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>>63515205
Fuck, I would tame Sooraya's booty something fierce, goddamn.
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>>63515206
>Is Barbara still supposed to be an adult?
I don't think so. She's only been active a couple of years thanks to the reboot.
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>>63515225
>deflecting the argument
What argument? The "argument" was you spamming "gb2tumblr" a lot without understanding the meaning of this phrase.

I understand you are desperate to rectify the mislabeling your site suffers at the hands of us awful 4channers, but at least diversify your tactics next time
>>
>>63514055
>An experienced Babs acting as operator/leader for Cass (the muscle) and Steph (the wildcard) would be so fucking neat.

This Babs looks like she's the one that should be mentored by Steph.

Let that sink in.
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>>63515132

>attacking a tumblr-hater

But they're not attacking a tumblr-hater, they're attacking you. The tumblrcunt.
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>>63515218
>Pro-grimderp on /co/.

>>63515227
Hey, a time-traveller from 1992!
>>
Lol the most hilarious thing about this bagtril costume is the shoddy-ass boots.

Those chinese docs wouldn't last half a gotham city night.

Nice choice artist. You really got your disposable and flimsy fashions right and all.

Because chinese docs are totally reliable and milspec.

Idiot.
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>>63515271
She's 20-something

>>63515206
Didn't you hear? All millennials supposedly act like teenagers now!
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>>63515247
Wing never got to unveil that brown booty.
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>>63515284
That wasn't me. That was another anon who hated some self-proclaimed SJW. Thus, attacking him is what Tumblr would do, not 4chan.
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>>63515165
>thinking that something has to be extremely overtly sexual to be striking

You truly are retarded.

Also, if you wouldn't hit that shit in the image you responded to, then damn, you also probably not as straight as you think.

>>63515205
Ironically, Dust's costume clung a lot. The two aren't really comparable, though.
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>>63515275

The meaning of the phrase is that bitches from tumblr need to go the fuck back to where they belong. You being from tumblr, that's where you belong.
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>>63515285
>a shitpile of a human being who uses "grimderp" unironically on /co/
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>>63515285
>Hey, a time-traveller from 1992!
This doesn't even make sense.
You're from 1987 because you think "adult" means "grimdark". What the hell does "from 1992" even mean in this context?
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>>63515053
>>63515205

oh man this is a really slippery slope we're going down

Consider me convinced by your compelling argument, anon
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>>63515293
Go back to /k/.
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>>63515295
Fuck, don't remind me. They were super cute together, too.

Fuck purifiers, and fuck Nimrod.


Wait, you mean Icarus, right? Wing was the suicidefag, not the Guthrie.
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>>63515314

>4chan wouldn't attack someone for having a shit opinion

You could at least try and know what the fuck you're talking about, tumblrfag. This isn't your little circle jerk hugbox.
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>>63515271

Well, she lives on her own now, roomie aside, so she has to be at least 18 unless she was emancipated.

So, yeah. I think it's a fine costume for a teen hero, but it's not something that screams "grown woman". Then again, she still calls herself Bat"girl". I know Batwoman is taken, but shouldn't she take a page from Dick and branch out on her own? Again, I mean.
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>>63515315
>thinking any shit costume is "sexy" just because a vagina-owner is wearing it
So desperate
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>>63515254
So don't read Ms. Marvel or the new Batgirl. If they bother you that much, don't even think about them. It'll save you unnecessary time and stress.

Problem solved. Move on.
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>>63515293
>implying they aren't manufactured by a Wayne Tech sister company
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>>63515334

>ad hominem! I win!

Tumblr pls go.
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>>63515357
Sexy =/= extremely ridiculously revealing.
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>>63515318
I didn't do anything tumblr-like. You did (attacked a SJW hater).
Guess who's from tumblr.

>>63515350
>hating SJWs is a "shit opinion"
Careful! You're blowing your disguise!
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This is what happens when normalfags get in on what were once niche interests.
20 years ago, they're the same sort that would've ostracized the slightly brighter kid that played video games and read comic books.
Now they've realized they've been missing out, video games and comics are awesome, and suddenly it's cool to be geeky.
But because this niche in the entertainment industry has been crafted over decades by loyal fans (the same 'nerds' they would have ostracized in an earlier time), they realize it's just not normalfag enough for them.
They act like 'nerds' have been holding out on them, when they were the ones who saw comics and games as 'beneath' them.
How many of these feminists would have considered dating the school 'comic book geek' back in the day?
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So, why are we still responding?
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>>63515353

Simone confirmed she's 21.
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>>63515384
sexy = emphasizing some sexual traits (not necessary revealing them)

Just some formless jacket and pants that don't emphasize anything =/= sexy
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>>63515342
/fa/, actually

any idiot that buys doc martens deserves nothing but constant assfucking, no lube
because that's what they promote

bad products at the same price pre-outsourcing to shit land.

Absolutely disgusting and an affront to fashion and quality.

Good god babs has just become another bandwagon tween - them and fake skins are the only idiots that buy DM these days.

I'm so mad.
About fucking cheapo boots.

That's how bad this board is for me.

Fuck.
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>>63512451
>princess wears a dress
is not the same thing as
>person going out to fight thugs wearing a dress

I've literally seen this design linked all around by my female friends saying that it's finally a female superhero design that they like.
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>Comic should pander to me, not girls
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>>63515165
there's nothing that's supposed to be attractive about it, you dingdong.

Batgirl is out on the street wreckin' niggas who wanna step to her. The last thing she's thinking about is whether she'd look good twerkin in her outfit.

Do you get outraged when you don't get a boner watching Worldstar fight comps?
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>>63515366
>implying they would make something so hideous, impractical and dumb
besides, IP infringement
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You know I look at OP's image and the pose, expression...none of it says "I can beat up 200lb criminals"
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>>63515343
Oh I'm a fake nigga, I just wanted to talk about Dust.
Babe is way cute. Veiled unveiled all that jazz.
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>>63515360

>implying I read comics
Kek. I'm not a faggot, anon. Comics are all terrible. The problem. Is that what's on comics effects the mindsets of the youth. Even Obama was influenced by superman and spider-man. What happens when the people who read these tumblr pandering pro-muslim propoganda gain power in the world one day?

Allowing shit like this is just asking for trouble down the road. Try actually thinking ahead, faggot.
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>>63515465
Then stop reading about female superheroes, problem fucking solved.
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>>63515429
>nothing but constant assfucking, no lube
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>>63515394
That is some hard core projection.
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>>63515394
You're acting like this is a bad thing when it isn't.

Comics are an incestuous mess and a a new audience that doesn't tolerate the general level of writing is a good thing. It means cape stuff can maybe stop retreading the same tired shit, maybe drop the terrible mutations that arose due to being a closed circle of nerds, and maybe get back to being designed to be about wonder and adventure rather than convoluted continuity, powerlevels, and nerdboners.
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>>63515473
It's cool, nigga. She's easily my favorite qt from her generation of X-friends.

Much better than that impure harlot Laura.
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>>63515360
Sorry for being an optimist, I still hope she and Miles Morales will improve.

>or the new Batgirl
Where the fuck did you read that in my post? She has a potential to be a well-balanced enough to not be irritating for all I know.
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>>63515392

>guess whose from tumblr
The one trying to pretend she's not from tumblr. And that anon wasn't attacking sjw haters he was attack a nigger from tumblr. Try actually reading the thread, tumblrcunt.
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>>63515513
I don't hate the costume either but....you're reading way too much into a costume change.
Not to mention all the fill in artists who are going to draw it like Spandex anyways.
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>>63515381
so not basing an argument on flawed logic is a tumblr thing now?
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>>63515496
What am I projecting?
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>>63515398

Eh. I'm just enjoying watching the two tumblrcunts try and convince the other that they're not from tumblr.
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>>63515524
D'aww Rockslide.
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>>63515489
You butthurt for no reason?

I just think they should have gone with an action pose for the promotional shot
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>>63515329
>An Anon this sensitive to the use of "grimderp".

>>63515331
>You're from 1987 because you think "adult" means "grimdark".
Grimdark wasn't an 80s phenomenon. Pic related.

>What the hell does "from 1992" even mean in this context?
That'd be the year Image Comics was founded: grimdark incarnate. And yes, you do seem to be describing grimdark comics rather than "adult" comics.

>>63515350
>This isn't your little circle jerk hugbox. It's MY circlejerk hugbox!
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>>63515487
>What happens when the people who read these tumblr pandering pro-muslim propoganda gain power in the world one day?
You drown in your own tears?
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>>63515513
Thanks for dictating to me why my interests are illegitimate.
I can only imagine the people most likely to applaud this are normalfags that have hardly finished a comic book.
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>>63515429
what boots would you give her, /fa/?
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>>63515544
I'm not really talking about the costume. I'm talking about the retarded aversion to new fans.

The industry needs these new people. It's going to fucking die without them. I'd rather cape comics get a new audience - and, in return, are allowed to be diverse and to drop the flab that has accumulated over their existence - than just withering away in favour of movies about related properties.
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>>63512690
>anyone who doesn't agree with my opinion is a shitposter.
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>>63515538
>The one trying to pretend she's not from tumblr.
So, you.
>he was attack a nigger from tumblr
That nigger did nothing tumblr-like. Instead, he attacked a SJW. You do the math.
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>>63515576
Again, fuck off. Only morons use that idiotic word and ALWAYS to describe ANYTHING more or less dark. The sooner it dies, the better it would be for everyone.
Same can be said about any other idiotic buzzword you use or you.
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>>63515545
No, tumblr users just want to make "gb2tumblr" lose any meaning, by spouting it without any logic or context. Ignore them, anon.
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Look at what we are. Look at yourself, /co/.
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>>63515570
Santo and Julian are tied for my favorite dudebros from the same generation
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>>63515704
Fuck off yourself, mister.
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>>63515576
The phenomenon was started by Miller's DKR in 1986. A 4chan post is not valid citation.

>And yes, you do seem to be describing grimdark comics rather than "adult" comics.
Where exactly?
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>>63515686

You're the one who keeps bringing up SJWs, tumblrfag. Why do you care so much that you've been found out.
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>>63515619
And you'd be stoned, sinner
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>>63515652
I didn't say your interests were illegitimate.

I said that cape comics have closed themselves into a rut and an audience that excuses bad writing. Would you really object to the core themes of superhero stuff if it had less T&A? Would that really devalue what you're interested in? Would you really hate it if it no longer became the norm for shit to be retconned at the drop of a hat, for paper thin executive writing to become something no longer tolerated by the majority? If obvious porn tracing in Land's vein just couldn't be sold to the audience anymore?

Look, if you really are in this primarily for tits, then your interests are certainly not illegitimate, but they'd be better serviced by just downloading some porn.
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>>63515748
You first, cunt. People like you are the reason this board is shit.
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>>63515706

>wanting tumblrfags to fuck off back to tumblr is now somehow tumblr

The only person devaluing the phrase is you anon.

>>>/tumblr/
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have you considered crocs for combat footwear
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>>63515762
Yeah, I'm bringing up SJWs in the context that I fucking approve of people attacking them

>you've been found out.
Post it 20 more times, maybe it'll come true
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>>63515749
>Not dating the Dark Age back to the influence of DKR.
Are you trolling?

>Where exactly?
The whole "If it isn't deadly serious, it's for kids" attitude is pretty telling.
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>>63515778

>implying an anon sticking up for his values is making the board go to shit
>implying it isn't tumblr that's making the board go to shit

Tumblr pls go.
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>>63515802
Using "gb2tumblr" against anons who do nothing tumblr-like is nonsensical. It devalues the accusation.

Thus, who would want to do that? Only those who are butthurt about this accusation having any weight.
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>>63515808

Post about how you're totally not from tumblr despite not being able to read a thread properly and see you're defending a SJW 20 more times and maybe you'll magically stop being a tumblrcunt.
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>>63515826
>Not dating the Dark Age back to the influence of DKR.
What? I specifically cited DKR as an example of that trend.

>The whole "If it isn't deadly serious, it's for kids" attitude
Again, where exactly?
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>>63515836
Attacking fags who use the word "grimderp" non-ironically is an ages-old /co/ tradition that's older than tumblr.
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>>63515808

Holy shit dude. You're getting awfully defensive for someone thats "totally not from tumblr."
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>>63515778
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>>63515777
good writing and fanservice shouldn't be mutually exclusive!
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>>63514431
>initial outrage

From whom? Ameripigs? I doubt the Japs gave much of a shit
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I feel like tumblr as destroyed our capacity to have a conversation around here.
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>>63515864
>you're defending a SJW
I defend an anon who attacked a SJW
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>>63515842

The fact that you can't tell what about those posts makes it obvious that they're from tumblr just proves you're a tumblrfag.
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>>63515706
>The enemy is trying to degrade the usefulness of our most cherished weapon against them
They are sneaky, but we shall do our duty to exterminate them wherever the stir!
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Only thing I really dislike about the design is the purplish color. Doesn't look good with the black from her mask. Should just stick with dark grey. Also the boots.
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>fucking normalfags
>they'll watch any shit if it has [insert current sex icon]'s ass in it
>god look at this shit plot, all this terrible narrative, so tired and overdone, forced ass and shit
>wait did you just fucking say there should be less ass in comics?
>what are you a normalfag? are you gay?
>fuck that ass is an important part of comics and you're a fag if you think otherwise
>why's is bad for there to be ass?
>sure it breaks atmosphere and tension and shit but you gotta accept it as part of comics
>now be quiet Wolverine's gonna die again and I wanna read that thrilling shit

The level of hypocrisy is reaching radioactive levels on both fucking sides here.
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It looks great. If you are getting butthurt about Babs NOT being over sexualized, then you're truly as pathetic as the rest of the world thinks comic book readers are.
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>>63514485
stfu
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>>63515902

>being this paranoid
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>>63515917
No, it doesn't.

The only thing that proves someone's from tumblr is if they're:
a) a SJW
b) defending a SJW
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>>63515865
>What? I specifically cited DKR as an example of that trend.
It isn't an example of the trend, it was the beginning of the trend. The trend itself took off in the 90s. Pay attention.

>>63515889
>an ages-old /co/ tradition
That you just happened to pull out of your ass today.
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>>63515925
>Purplish
1. That's clearly blue
2. There's enough black to offset it
3. What's wrong with the combat boots
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>>63515914

Last I checked SJWs don't aren't anti-women's rights, cunt.
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>>63515930
if you don't read comic books why are you here?
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>>63515902
No, I'm pretty sure Anons insisting that /co/ should remember it's "part of 4chan" (translation: "hosted on the same website as /b/") did that ... around five years ago.
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>>63515951
>The trend itself took off in the 90s. Pay attention.
To what? Some 4chan anon's uneducated opinion you quoted?
DKR was the first example of this trend. It took off in the late 80s and was active to the mid-90s.
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>>63515900
They don't have to be, but often are, especially in a visual medium. When you go out of your way to squeeze some T&A into something that is otherwise written as serious or, y'know, has a tone totally averse to that sort of thing, you end up with something called dissonance.

You, the reader, are exposed to the artificial nature of the narrative, the sweaty hand of the artist/writer reaching out and poking holes in your engagement with the story. Readers shouldn't be in situations where they have to think "well that wasn't appropriate, but hey, guess dem thirteen-year-olds gotta fap to something!"
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Thank you for a wonderful thread, /co/

I wasn't from tumblr, btw, I'm from /frz/
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>>63515990
so we should blame /b/ and not tumblr for changing this board, is what you are saying?
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>>63515964
If it says it's a SJW, it's a SJW. No other ways about it.
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>>63515945

And 3. Being a whiny bitch when her feelings get hurt.

Kinda like you.

HMMM.
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>>63514052
Women don't confuse motorcycle riding with trapeze acts either, I know my mom didn't.
Though Batman and related are influenced by the latter as much as the former anyway.
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>>63516004
>I wasn't from tumblr, btw, I'm from /frz/
And the difference being?
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>>63516016
>And 3. Being a whiny bitch when her feelings get hurt.
You just described half of 4chan.
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>>63516016
>HMMM.
Get the fuck out Linkara
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>>63515994
It beats your uneducated opinion by virtue of being correct.
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>>63516016
Disproving bullshit with logic is like the antithesis of "whining"
Learn what words mean before you use them
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>>63515994
>DKR was the first example of this trend.
You are just

So adorable
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>>63516014

Says the SJW trying and failing to hide the fact that she's from tumblr.
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>>63516009
Blaming it on tumblr started out as a joke. The fact that people now treat it seriously shows that many of the Anons posting in this thread weren't even around back when.
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You are all why /co/ is shit.
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>>63516038

At least half of /co/ and /tg/ are from tumblr so that makes sense. /r9k/, /pol/, and /o/ are pretty much the only boards free of them.
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>>63516073
Are you saying it's not grimdark?

>>63516041
>tfw no argument
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>>63516128
/a/ and /tv/ as well.

...Not exactly the best boards on your side, are there
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>>63516079

>pretending to be retarded only attracts actual retards

Nothing new. Most of 4chans current problems can be attributed to pretending to be retarded and tumblr.
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>>63516078
I did nothing SJW-like.

While you attacked an anon who attacked a SJW.
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>>63515899
>am I smug and hip yet?
You are adorable.
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>>63516177

>implying you're not the one defending a SJW

Again. Try actually reading the thread cunt.
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>>63515660
>>63515513
I personally think something that might help this is if comic book shops would just adopt the use of category signs to denote distinct sub-genres, the way regular book stores group books, instead of expecting new people to immediately have a feel for what kind of stories are put where.
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>>63516148
Why bother? You aren't interested in an argument OR informing yourself about comics history.
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>>63516195
>Being this new.
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>>63516240
Are you contributing to a constructive argument?
Are you informing about comics history?
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>>63516272
I thought I was doing both till you happened.
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>>63514001
Feminist Muslims?
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>>63516267
>being this much of a cancer
Two can play this game. Now what?
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>>63516344
Now you are crowned the King of Shit Mountain.
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>>63516307
The only info you posted was some anon's opinion from 4chan
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>>63516343
Gay feminist Muslims. They're coming to burn our fedoras and put us all in FEMA camps. Didn't you know?
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>>63516026
Where's this from? Looks familiar
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>>63516416
And your mom is still a dumb and worthless whore who constantly whines about your daddy's two-incher. See?

None of it changes the fact that you're a moronic piece of shit who ruins this board by using shit buzzwords, you dumb cuntwipe.
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>>63516419
>some anon's opinion
Have you only been here since the New 52 launched or something?
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Jesus Christ, what happened to this thread?
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>>63516464
Paranatural.
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>>63516343
>Feminist Muslims?
G. Willow Wilson, for example
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>>63516466
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>>63516467
What, is it not some anon's opinion from 4chan?
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>>63516501
>dumb cunt and a terrible writer is both a feminist and a muslim
Who would've thought?
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>>63516128
I don't think you can be from tumblr, Anon. Isn't that like being from bulletin board or something?
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>>63516148
I'm saying that there were shitloads of superhero comics that were "grimdark" (god I hate that word) before then.

If anything, the trend of dark, violent, emotion-driven stories in cape comics started during the Bronze age in the early 70s. O'Neil/Adam Batman (they "gave Batman his balls back", not Miller) and the Death of Gwen Stacy kicked off the trend. This continued into the early 80s, with Claremont X-Men, Claremont/Miller Wolverine, Wolfman/Perez NTT, Moore's Miracleman and Swamp Thing, Thomas's All-Star Squadron, and the real starter of the whole "dark leatherbound anti-hero badass" trend: Frank Miller's Daredevil.

With TDKR, Miller just took the tone that he pioneered with his Daredevil and put it on one of DC's most popular characters. Anyone who says it started the trend hasn't read any comics from that era. The trend had been going on for years, it's just that TDKR was the only one with mainstream relevance.

If you were talking about the trend in terms of mainstream relevance and perception of Bats, then yeah, I'd understand. But you're talking about it in terms of COMICS, so no, you're dead wrong.
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>>63516485
Tumblr happened, Titfriend.
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>>63516533
It's about as big as your father's dick which is why your mum is such an insatiable slut. Got it.
Sorry to hear it, mate. I feel for ya.
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>>63516485
This is what you have when he does it for free.
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>>63516485
I'd say summer happened, but /co/ has been this way for years now. It's become impossible to have a non-cheesecake discussion about a superheroine without the thread being swarmed by batshit insane types who see a feminist-Muslim conspiracy behind every change in modern comics.

>>63516538
It's been the opinion of /co/ since the board's inception. It's an opinion that's been informed by actually having read a sizeable number of comics from the 80s and 90s rather than just titles off the Best Hits list.
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>>63516590
I appear to have caused you some inconvenience, Anon.
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/co/ has become /cgl/ v2.0
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>>63516776
We are /v/ at this point.
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>>63516656
Every change in modern comics principally serves the interests of Muslims and Feminists.
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I actually find her more attractive now.
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>>63514272
She's Batgirl. She wears a yellow cape. She kick bad guys and good guys like her.
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>>63514377
Maybe she's that good.
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>>63514721
You want to get a boner? Porn is just one click away
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>>63517069
>You should only get a boner from what I approve of.

Shut the fuck up, Nazi.
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>>63515053
I actually like that costume. She looks badass as fuck
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>>63517095
That's ... not what Anon said.
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>>63515111
>For a person that has been fighting for years
Maybe she can wear whatever the fuck she likes because she's that good and want the enemies to know she's that good.
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>>63517147
It's exactly what he said

>>63517069
>You want to get a boner? Porn is just one click away

What am I to take from this other than that he's principally opposed to mens' sexual interests being served by anything other than graphic porn?

Shooting him in the back of the head like a common fascist would be too kind.
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>>63517173
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>>63515465
You must hate Rocket Racoon
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>>63517173
>I want to get a boner from something that is not made to make me a boner
>>
I guess kripples aren't kool anymore.
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>>63517366
If this shit is supposed to be for girls why are you sending them the message that they need to hide all of their sexually identifying characteristics?

Do you hate girls?
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>>63517379
Yeah, guess disabled readers will have to find someone else to project their personal misery onto.
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>>63517508
Muh progressive society.
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>>63517485
>You can't be sexually liberated unless I can see your tits.
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>>63517554
>You can't be a self-respecting woman unless no one can see your tits.
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>>63517554
Establish that girls are interested in sexless, androgynous, ciphers whom do not look womanly in any way.

That actuallty seems like more of a faggot thing.
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>>63517485
>if I don't get a boner from her, it's a bad example for girls

Yeah no
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>>63517587
>implying women need to dress so you can see her tits every time
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>>63517590
It looks virtually indistinguishable from a man.

I don't think girls should be persuaded in any way to try to look like men because that's incredibly mentally abusive.
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>>63517554
If you're sexually liberated, why do you hide your curves?
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>>63517632
>implying women need to dress so that every feminine curve is well-hidden
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>>63517590
>teaching girls to dress in a way that gets no boner from anyone is good
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>>63517248

You mean New Deadpool? No I don't.
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>>63517635
>long hair
>eyelashes
>femenine lips
>soft feaures
>curves in the waist

>"it looks like a man, guys"
pic related, your average comic book man
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>>63517671
>implying her curves are hidden

>>63517710
>teaching girls to dress always with the objetive of provoquing boners everytime is good
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>>63517584
>>63517587
>>63517638
>If women's bare flesh isn't always available to be ogled at, how can women regard themselves as liberated?
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>>63517747
Bluebird you dumb fuck, not the Batgirl
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>>63517747
>long hair
a lot of guys have
>eyelashes
a lot of guys have
>femenine lips
well, maybe
>soft feaures
of the face, you mean? nothing else is shown
>curves in the waist
where?

>>63517800
I said nothing about _bare_ flesh
I said about accentuating your curves vs. hiding them
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>>63517800
Who likes women to look like men?

Not men.

Not women.

Faggots.
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>>63517866
You are describing a guy that looks like a woman. Bravo
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>>63517899
Long-haired guys look like women now?
>>
>>63517942
Sometimes.

It can be quite delicious.
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>>63517942
>men with long hair and femenine features
So, men that look like women?
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>>63517870
>Implying this >>63512048 looks like a man.
You need to spend less time watching Baywatch reruns.
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>>63517999
I was talking about this
>>63514611

Pay attention.
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>>63517981
>>63517951
Exactly
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>>63517951
Prove it
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>>63518032
Okay
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>>63518032
see>>63518020
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>>63518032
Pure androginous Spanish sexual power
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>long-haired guys look like women
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>>63518092
>long haired guys with eyelashes, femenine lips and sof features don't look like women
Those men only have long hair
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>>63517485
>not made to give men boners
>must be for girls

Is your brain just a load of afterbirth?
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>>63517635
She has a feminine jaw, feminine legs, and visible breasts. Her features aren't exaggerated, they're realistic. They're most certainly not exaggerated in any notably male way - she doesn't have a squareish jaw, she doesn't have large pectorals or broad shoulders, etc. Real boobs don't generate a perfect outline from under a leather jacket. Maybe if you read something that wasn't oversexed as fuck you'd find that women are often drawn this way.

It'd take a lot to turn this image into one of a man. If you just took the tits away and added cock you'd have a trap, basically - a man that looks in every way like a woman but has a dick.
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