I like boy being boyish and trapping just for seduction
not the "draw a girl, call it a boy" shit that's going on in cm
I like em. I think they're cute. I like when it's just a boyish boy who can or chooses to look like a girly girl.
I wish I was a trap, sometimes.
I'm pretty sure people on /cm/ are probably the most secure with their sexuality out of all the possible boards on might run into this sort of discussion on, haha.
Traps are gay and that's a-okay.
we used to have a trap thread but i guess it died or something. havent seen it around
they remind me of how /cm/ used to be fun, but it's now filled with edgy kids and sjws yapping all the time
In the past trap threads theres always the people very insecure about themselves that come crawling out of the wood work to yell at trap thread
fucking boku no piko saga. Especially the third, go to /b/ or /d/ and ask over there since were going straight into shota territory.
I personally find them to be really amazing! That said, it can be done poorly by strictly drawing a girl and saying it's a boy. The best traps need to have boy features.
Otokonoko Delivery just came out not too long ago. I haven't seen it yet, but it's an adaptation of NemuNemu's works which are all amazing.
as cute or cuter than a girl without any of the inner darkness.
Trap are pedophilic to me. They have no male secondary characteristics so what's the point? "This character looks like a stupid generic moe girl and acts like a stupid generic moe girl and probably even sound like a stupid generic moe girl....but if I drew her--uh I mean HIM naked, which I probably won't unless this is a hentai, you will see prepubescent male genitals"
Who has time for that when there are actually attractive 2d men around who look like men?
>Trap are pedophilic to me.
We're reaching tumblr levels that shouldn't be possible
Nah look at any pic of trap like in OP. Where are all the secondary sex characteristics that distinguish a full grown man from a literal child?
They aren't there. You get obviously prepubescent hairless genitals IF its a hentai.
This stuff is what separates hot 2D Men from disgusting pedoshit 2d girls/boys (indistinguishable unless its a hentai in which case you do get the prepubescent hairless male genitals pedos crave).
So if a character has no hair on his chest, crotch, legs and/or arms, the only explanation for you is that they are underage? I don't know dude, you either are unfamiliar with simplistic art styles that emphasize attractive looking characteristics, like shaved bodies and big eyes, because it's easier to draw that way, or you are a biased tumblrina who thinks liking 2D boys = potential pedophile; playing shooters = potential homicidal maniac; etc.
I mean, if this was a board for 30+ year olds and we were talking about toddler- or shotacon here, I'd say your pedophile accusation could be discussed, but your interpretation of a
>hot 2D man
is just as a subjective opinion as any other here. Some prefer them to look more feminine, some prefer them to look more young, and the latter mainly because age can be distinguished rather hard in these simplistic styles.
In the end I can only talk for myself. I'm 19, I appreciate traps in 2D just as much as in 3D, and I never had any affection to children. Maybe because I can separate fiction from reality, or because liking 2D boys doesn't make me a pedophile in the first place, I dunno.
>So if a character has no hair on his chest, crotch, legs and/or arms, the only explanation for you is that they are underage?
Not if he has all the other secondary sexual characteristics, then he's just shaven/manscaped or whatever.
If he is missing EVERY secondary sex characteristic (square jaw, broad shoulder, deep voice, denser muscle mass) to the point where its indistinguishable from a 2d girl then yeah he's pedo garbage.
>In the end I can only talk for myself. I'm 19, I appreciate traps in 2D just as much as in 3D, and I never had any affection to children. Maybe because I can separate fiction from reality, or because liking 2D boys doesn't make me a pedophile in the first place, I dunno.
Don't worry I wasn't planning on putting you onto a watchlist or whatever this part of your post is for.
It's art. It's not supposed to be realistic, and it's far from it. Everyone's got their taste and since you can stylize anything into perfection when you draw it, it's easy to make characters look attractive in a way that simply is not realistic.
>or whatever this part of your post is for
Your fucking pedo accusation triggers me.
Obviously crossdressers aren't pedophilic, since they are just people of one gender wearing another genders clothing. Diaper play might be a little pedo, if thats what you mean. The pedophilia bit comes in with the lack of ANY secondary sexual characteristics. A man in a dress is a man, and I wouldn't even bother classifying him as a "trap" at all. At best, some crossdressers can pull off looking like women, often with the help of cosmetics, padding, etc. Not little girls like in OP and most other generic "traps".
A man without a square jaw, the big hands/feet, the height, the broad shoulders/narrow hips, adams apple, enlarged penis, deep voice, body hair etc. is no longer a man at all anymore. It's a boy. Put a dress on a little boy with zero post-pubescent characteristics and he'll look like a little girl of course, that's sort of how puberty works. All little boys are "traps" given a change of clothes and a wig.
They aren't attractive to non-pedos though.
not sure if agender robots count, but given hes presented as male 90% of the time
Your doing a really good impression of a gay westerner going full tumblrette. The better argument is that traps are 'too straight' for yourself. The traps you speak of are all designed to be moe because thats what straight dudes a bi-sexuals relate to with any female anime character. The claims you are making would put both straight female moe as well as most of the Boy's Love genres Bishys that women fantasize about to into the same spotlight, as traps are almost always BL like character designs presenting themselves as women.
If you aren't interested in anything other then muscles then everything but like 1-2% characters associated with traps would be a turn-off, but moe characters are basically common everywhere BUT in the type of stuff that would appeal to old gay westerners ngl
I'd agree i wouldn't mind more older anime characters in general, but im not going to split hairs about it or start pretending popularized 2d art is responsible for RL sex crimes.
its still there but its broken or something, all the images went *poof*
I don't like yaoi w/traps because they're literally girls but with weird shrunken dicks and balls the size of pennies.
Cute boys will always be 10/10 though, feminine or not.
i live traps.
serious question here: what do you call a dude who draws the line at traps? the people who know I'm dating one assume I'm gay but I work with a lotta ignant folk. I'd say queer is a fair label tho.
Nah I am 110% hetero. I like women in terms of personality sometimes, but mens bodies more than anything. I am a Westerner though one who almost exclusively consumes Eastern media and is centrist on the whole political scale (not really tumblerina or /pol/)
>both straight female moe as well as most of the Boy's Love genres Bishys
What is "straight female moe"? BL Bishies tend to have the builds of full grown men: broad shoulders/narrow hips, big hands/feet etc. They do not look like the OP. They do tend to have effeminate faces, with more pointed jaws, but not childish rounded faces that we see with traps. Often have decent musculature/low body fat % too (not the same as "big muscles"--rather musculature is emphasized over fat/curves, since men deposit fat beneath the muscle layer). If shown naked, they certainly have adult dicks etc.
Traps have none of these. The are childlike prepubescent boys/girls with the genitals of children. No broad shoulders or any other indicator that these boys have gone through puberty.
>start pretending popularized 2d art is responsible for RL sex crimes.
I never said 2D art inspires 3D crimes. I enjoy and consume a lot of """rapey""" material. (Diabolik Lovers, HYD, Black Wolves Saga whatever). But it doesn't mean I am about to go out and rape or be raped or whatever. Similarly, I am sure pedos might enjoy 2d pedophilia without crossing over to 3d. But I won't shy away from why I don't personally enjoy 2d pedoshit. Men are sexy. Prepubescent boys in skirts, not so much.
You guys are confusing traps with shota. Not every trap is a little boy.
why would you need a name? All you need to know is that you are attracted to a certain degree of femininity, even if it manifests in a "male" person.
I think this anon had really good points even though I like traps.
I wouldn't openly admit to finding stuff like OPs pic hot, or indulge in it too much as part of a community, because I do agree it goes in the direction of pedophilia.
Self-control is key, both on an individual and community basis.
Learn to take criticism.
It's called gynandromorphophilia (GAMP), and it's a subtype of heterosexuality.
It correlates with autogynephilia (AGP) meaning that men who lust after traps also have a higher chance of desiring to be a trap themselves.
For some, this reaches the point of sexual submission fantasies which make them "pseudobisexual" in the end, i.e. they have a pure sex-based lust after masculine bodies even though they're normally only attracted to women in terms of real relationships.
Also, GAMP AGP pseudobisexual heterosexual here. Leaving aside my mental health issues that kept me a kissless virgin so far: I desire normal relationships with women and love them in all kinds of ways (personality and body), and this has always been this way. But in late teen age, after beginning to browse /a/, I began developing GAMP and AGP in combination (or discovered that I had it, whatever). This slowly intensified to the point that today I have the hots for gay sex even though it still never happens to me that I find any man attractive in daily life, ever. At most I watch some gay porn occasionally, with a fixation on the anal penetration aspect and not much more. (The thought of both giving and receiving it excites me.)
It's all about how comfortable you are in the delivery
Yeah, also the accuracy and thought put into it. You cannot just say "fart" and expect a laugh, and you cannot just say something insulting and expect it to be comedy.
"Inner darkness" isn't exclusive to women, specially not in animu. PMS and feminist bs are. Imo using one of those two as the punchline would have been funnier.
Not that much into traps but this is the exception.
Does he count as a trap given he was presented as such in-canon?
The best traps are
Also who's that?
>"Anyone can fuck up, lol!"
>Forgets to include pic like a jackass
See what I mean
Traps are the epitome of existence
>misogyny is always funny
fixed that for you.
Calm down its just a drawing
I sometimes wish I was smaller so I could play smol animu bois and lolis
As if 2cm would make a significant difference anyway...
Sometimes it sucks, if you something is on a high shelf, you have to climb that thing.
If you want to ride on a motorcycle, you can´t find one small enough.
If I buy something you need to be 16 for, like alcohol, or videogames, I always have to show my ID if that answers your question.
it depends more on the how gentle your face is + how good your technique is then strictly how tall you are desu. Know a very passable none-HRT (bad life situation) trans who is like 6'3 but since (s)he ended up with a gentler face it still somehow works rather then being all hon mode.
If your just doing it for the fun of it then the best thing you can do is practice and fail until you get it right. Its not too hard to find impressive cosplayers in their mid or even late 20s (not saying most are ofc) on account of what they lost from being more andro when aging they made up for in technique.
What the fuck, how did my life end up on /cm/ posting in a trap thread?
a series of good decisions
I think traps are like a schrodinger's problem where they exist in a state of gay and not gay simultaneously
I did the math and research. According to Wikipedia, the average length of a penis varies from 5.1 to 5.9 inches. I went for a safe 5.5 inches for an average. The average radius from the core center of the penis to the skin on the outside is .75 inches. From this we can roughly find the volume with pi times radius squared times height. This comes out as the average penis being around 9.72 cubic inches. Next, I found the volume of the average human adult male. I had to first find the weight, which according to Alex Schlessingerman's "The Physics Factbook" is 70kg or 154 pounds. Weight is found by multiplying an objects mass by the force of gravity, 9.81 meters per second. After taking gravity out of the equation, the average mass of an adult human male is 7.14 kg. I then found the volume by dividing this number by the average density if a human, according to Wikipedia, 985 kg per meter cubed. The volume of the adult male was then found to be .0072516316 cubic meters. Utilizing the volume of the average penis I found earlier, 9.72 in cubed, and converting it to meters cubed, I get .0001592828 meters cubed. This means the penis is 2.19% of an adult males volume. Assuming a lack of testosterone or female hormones makes the person a female, balls ignored for ease, fucking a trap is only 2.19% homosexual.
I wish I could be a trap and seduce men for money, no sex obviously tho
They are great. Also gay.
If you think liking traps doesn't make you gay, you're wrong. Stop kidding yourself.
However, I think you can believe they are cute but not find them sexually attractive and still be straight.
I know that feel anon. Maybe in another life we can be shortfags
>After taking gravity out of the equation, the average mass of an adult human male is 7.14 kg.
No, my friend. When you "weigh" yourself on a weighing scale gravity IS taken out of the equation by the scale. You are weighing yourself in order to find your mass.
If you actually believed that a 10kg bag of potatoes somehow contained more mass than the average man then I'm not sure what to tell you.. Traps are gay. Only a little bit though.
traps are ugly, crossdressers are the real deal
it's only good when you can see that they don't pass as female
and when the man is already pretty feminine
I like traps, but not in a gay way. I more admire them because I want to be a trap myself, instead of being sexually attracted.
Fucking a trap is still gay. Only slightly but still gay.
Could you people stop with the whole "traps are gay/not gay" BS? Fuck what you want and don't fuck what you don't want. Being straight/bi/gay/whatever doesn't fucking matter. Christ on a fucking crutch.
I am the same. I like to self insert as the trap.
I'll second this. It doesn't really matter what they are.
I used to not be into men and then I decided that it would be more fashionable to be bi so I started a rigorous positive reinforcement routine when looking at gay porn. I feel I've made significant progress. I have a boyfriend right now and I'm pretty sure he's convinced.
> my reality is mirrored on tv
I can only wonder what kind of shit you watch.
> tumblr is not a country, anon
It's pathetic that you dismiss people who disagree with you as tumblrfags.
There is a jlist add for otokonoko. So I clicked it. Maybe I''ll find some CGse-
>Triangle Silicone Ring for Penis Training
I'm afraid if I clock it, future ads will tell me weirder things.
In anime, yeah, the simplistic style means traps end up looking really young, canot deny that.
Irl traps however- for those on HRT especially, they have feminine physiques, save for the dick. Yet they dont look prepubescent, their faces look their age, but dont look that masculine either. I know not all traps manage it, but there are 20+ year olds who look like 20+ year old chicks with dicks
Just not sure how one would go about drawing that in anime. (Pic related: ringo is a trap)
>Traps have none of these. The are childlike prepubescent boys/girls with the genitals of children. No broad shoulders or any other indicator that these boys have gone through puberty.
have you seen the way naga ichi draws traps?
How I discovered traps
>Saw hentai thumbnail with cute girl
>Action starts getting good and I'm starting to get into my grove
>Protagonist pulls down girls pants
>Girl is not a girl but a guy
>Getting hotter and hotter
>Bust the fattest nut in my whole fapping career
>Feels good man
>Come down from climax ecstasy
>Traps have dicks
>Busted a nut to a guy
>But it was so good
>Proceed to best my dick raw all night to traps
And that is how I discovered traps
Hastur or Hasuta from Haiyore Nyarko san. Non-threatening form of a Lovecraft entity. Commonly mistaken for a girl even in boy's clothes, wants to be cute for Yahiro-kun. WARNING: Possible to be impregnated and may cause abject insanity from constant exposure.
>may cause abject insanity from constant exposure.
the only thing going insane here is my raging boner
I believe you forgot about who the best trap when he was a student at the DWMA.
you should ask shrodie's quantum cat that
Not sure if this is a trap but it's definitely the first male character I found I was into. Wanted to see if I found any characters similar to him.
The seemingly unending torrent of new Astolfo fan art is pure bliss.
They've struck a gold mine with that school uniform.
anyone have more pics of og american trap for 4th
thought I had more then just this saved
im also curious
even the parts of my social media I wouldnt expect femboys astolfo shows up
Apocrypha anime is out and in the newest pv for fgo, gudao is walking with a trio of trap servants
Yeah, a lot of people accept that Gudao likes to fuck Astolfo daily
is it out? because the thing its telling me is its not going to be out till november?
>goes out of his way to to to /cm/
>goes out of his way to enter a thread
>goes out of his way to post this
Really gets my noggin joggin'
Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong door, the leather club's two blocks down
>people still arguing about traps instead of posting traps
I'm 156cm, 100 lbs and have English genes, with blue eyes and dark brown hair down to the nape of my neck already
I desperately want to be a trap, but in irl there are so many more things to it then just growing your hair out. I'm also 25 and life is not going so well for me in a lot of ways, especially financially. Does anyone have any advice for someone who needs literally everything, from products to a wardrobe, to tuition. Is it still worth trying you think?
You are never going to be a perfectly cute girly trap. You're gonna have to accept that.
Get a girl to help you with makeup and styling your hair. There are arcane secrets passed down to them by their mothers that you will never figure out on your own. At the very least, youtube tutorials.
hair is, however, a major part of it. I have long girly hair, and got mistaken for a girl all the time when I was your age. Growing a bears only stopped people doing it to my face, but it seems to have stopped now I've bulked up a little.
Totally forgot about that site, I can afford that at least. Thx
I understand but Im taking estrogen too to hopefully bridge the gap. I know a super girly girl that is into beauty stuff that can help, Ill ask her to train me. My hair must be pretty good, multiple people ma'amed me today.
You could straighten your hair. There are even hair products that are nice to straightened hair
>a girl who happens to have a dick
So a trap
i know i'm a little late to this conversation, but i feel >>3117391 has a point: are you just hoping to become very feminine, or full on transgender minus the vag and tits? anime has a way of creating unusual expectations that are by no means realistic. the proportions on your typical anime trap are impossible to obtain. the hair and the skin and all that other shit can be altered by a slim margin, but what you're talking about is a complete and total rearrangement of your body, which will not happen easily, if at all.
if you honestly feel this strongly towards looking like a girl, and not just feminine-ish, that's a multiple-year tens of thousands of dollar process, and likely you still won't be entirely happy with your appearance.
i think the roots of your mental struggle lie a lot deeper than just wanting to look like an anime character.
Only until my face changes then Ill stop. I have a few more months then Ill switch to bica. Im already 8 months in and I only have A size. When I switch, they will recede.
>My hair must be pretty good, multiple people ma'amed me today.
That's not hard. I have long curly hair, and I get mistaken for female from the back occasionally. Despite being 6'2".
It stopped the last year or so, though. I changed jobs and put on a bunch of upper-body muscle.
Not gay but find them very lovely.
While she is on her way to be a chilled full time girl, the rest of us work iur asses off each time we want to be cute girks for a couple if hours and then return to a manly public life. There's the difference.
Traps are pure beauty (Most of people don't consider Kenshin as a trap because of eng dub but Fuck.... look at the girly faces that he make)
I wish to be a trap.
Someone guide me on my quest
Alternatively there's a cute boy one as well. As far as I can tell they're pretty much the same though.
I wouldn't say they're useless. It's more of sticking your foot in the water and seeing if you want to really commit to something like this. It's just a workout routine to lose fat and gain minimal muscle cause traps are skinny.
Just jumping right into getting hormones and tits is definitely not the way to go about something that is most likely just a fetish anyways.