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I realize that there is an alcohol thread, but I haven't seen a good beer thread lately. I bought a couple of image fagmiliar. Recommend/post some stouts that might be available in the southern part of the US, please. Also, what's your favorite beer? I know IPA, but after that...
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>>9256330
And no... I don't have a fancy tulip glass to drink from, sorry. Maybe I'll buy one eventually.
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>>9256330
Holy shit that beer fucking sucks.
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I choose to ignore your instruction, and instead I'll tell you that I'm currently drinking blackrocks grand rabbits "dry hopped cream ale". It's pretty good
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>>9256341
Sounds good. I wish I'd picked up several different stouts instead of two of these. I like it, but it's got a tad too much alcohol content for it's flavor.
That being my opinion, I can see how people enjoy stouts with higher abv. This one just ain't my bag. It's not terrible, though.
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>>9256341
it's relatively low scoring on a couple of websites compared to the stout i got. do you think that's due to there being beer trends or something else going on with the ratings yours received?
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>>9256330
ayyyyyy Mississippi on the glass
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>>9256330
>I just luuuuuuv IPAs
>Let me tell you all about this beer you've probably never heard of

Nah, you're alright OP
I'll just have a normal beer thanks
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>>9256365
I accidentally walked off with it from a bar.
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>>9256364
No idea, I bought it in the city it was brewed in, and I don't rely on websites to tell me what to drink. Imo there are unquestionably better beers available (including many from the UP), but it is extremely drinkable and has a good if mellow flavor. If you had a friend who drinks macros and wants to get into craft/micro it would be a good option to share. You're not looking at something as hoppy as say an IPA, or heavy as a stout. I guess you could call it a session beer
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>>9256399
It sounds good to me. Ive never made a purchase based on a website. Only recommendations from here or friends. I'm going to ask the guy at the beer store next time to recommend me a good range of different styles and have a friend or three do a tasting with me. I'll make another beer thread then, or post on one of yours.
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>>9256383
ayyyy stack of cash
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>>9256429
it's a notepad. one side is blank.
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>>9256420
Honestly if you're interested in that brewery imo their best is honey lav, it's a good "drink ice cold at the beach" summer beer. I thought I'd hate drinking lavender flavor but I'll be fucked if it isn't great. Anyhow I could gush about UP beers lots but piss on that idea. I will say upper Michigan is worth it if you're into beer tourism. I've always liked bell's Oberon/Two Hearted/other Kalamazoo options but damn their new upper hand lineup is phenomenal.. like two years old or so. If you find yourself in escanaba, do yourself a favor and get a pint at Hereford & Hops. I've not met a beer of theirs I didn't love but their crown jewel/popular offering is whitetail ale (it's pretty good but not their best). I recommend Cleary Red
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>>9256487
Outstanding. Thank you very much, anon.
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>>9256487
There is more good beer in the areas bordering Lake Michigan than there is near either salty coast
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Had a few of Summit's Oktoberfest tonight. Good shit
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>>9256330
>>9252219
What's your guilty pleasure, /ck/?
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Happy bachelor party niggers
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>>9256341
Yupper what
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>>9258660
I really wish I could have one. Anything that's even remotely cheap here in Finland isn't very pleasant compared to the more expensive stuff. And what you Americans consider cheap is always expensive here.
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drinking this

>>9258660
blue moon with a slice of orange

>>9256330
>Also, what's your favorite beer?
probably at the moment tripel karmeliGOAT
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australia has no good beer and it makes me sad. What can i drink in australia that doesn't taste like piss ladds
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>>9259498
there's loads bro
what do you like?
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>>9259502
typically i drift towards stouts and brown ales. I like wheatbeers as well.

I had a few good pale ales back in california but i've yet to find a decent one here
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>>9259562
there's been loads of good dark ales released recently.

maybe find a decent bottle shop. you won't find much good stuff in liquorland or bws. what state are you in?
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>>9256330
Did some light beer shopping today
Extremely glad that I found a few bottles of Double Jack now that they stopped making it.
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>>9259871
Jever Pils good shit
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>>9259871
Nice burn stains on that poverty carpet
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This was the last beer I had. Good stuff.

Also anything from Bell's brewery is good. I don't drink dark beer. Makes me feel like shit.
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>>9260193
It's some fluff from one of our cats on the lino kitchen floor. Nice projection though. I'm in a big country house full of beer and weed, which is presumably better than your current life circumstances.
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>>9260252
>cats
Sure kid, just admit it's weed residue. I've lived in enough "luxury apartments" to know the classic ratty rug and generic floor-length blinds leading to the balcony combo
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>>9260288
Epic my man
Here's some more in the fridge.
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>>9260315
Beer room in the cellar.
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>>9260328
Belgian/Trappist shelf
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only the best for me friend.
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Summit just released their fall seasonal. Seems early as fuck but I don't mind bc it's one of my favorite beers from them. Drank three last night.

>>9256330
>drinking stouts in the dead of summer
I can't believe people actually do this. Brown ales I can understand a bit, but stouts? Goddamn
>>9258660
Hamm's. It's the best shitbeer
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I've noticed that in the last month, Timothy Taylor have changed their label designs. What's with all these companies having these established labels and such and changing them now to try and fit in with the craft beer crap?
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>>9258660
Steel Reserve. Cheap and does its job well.
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Cheers motherfuckers
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>>9258744
Meh. I can get Pliny the Elder on draft any time I want.
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>>9261564
Looks like communist propaganda
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>>9261598
Exactly. This is what it used to look like.
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>>9261602
And Boltmaker for good measure.
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>>9260992
Hey I did the same. I like schells oktoberfest better, but at 7.1% summit will get you there while still being decent
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>>9260348
anon it's beautiful
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>>9260427
2.5/6 through a 6 pack of that right now.
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>>9256330

Drinking this for the first time right now. First IPA I've ever had. I like it.
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>>9256330

can anyone suggest a beer that is high ABV but goes down really easily?
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>>9262056
Pic related (9%) if you like wheats (or lagers), or Brother Thelonious (10%) if you like dark beers
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>>9261564
It's not exclusive to beer.
They're adapting to the slick minimalism style that is everywhere.
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>>9258744
this place is in my hometown
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>>9262056
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IPA fag here. All things being equal, my brew of choice is Commodore Perry IPA from Great Lakes brewery. If I had unlimited funds and unlimited liver capacity, I would go for Harpoon Leviathan IPA, but as it stands, I save that one for a special occasion.

Lately times have been tough (sigh) and I am stuck drinking swill. Steel Reserve tall boys. It's basically carbonated bourbon in a can, but it *will* get you drunk.
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>>9260427
You'll find a better beer.
You'll find a cheaper beer.
But you'll never find a better cheap-beer, than Yuengling.
Cheers!
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>>9259742
know any of the brewers?

I'm down in melbourne, supposedly tons of micro brews here but i've found that they all taste the same so far, a new bottleshop opened up near my work so i may wander into there soon to see what they got
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>>9260315
God tier tastes anon
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This is objectively the best IPA
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Which should I try tonight? Never had any Sam Smith's or the other two.
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Glad you asked, OP.

I am currently enjoying the GOLD© Standard of "Beers"!!
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>>9262929
hahah fuck off.
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>>9260348
oh I have some of that Westmalle also. same one.
seems to have a whole lot of sediment. how does it taste?
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>>9262909

hef then chocolate
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>>9263092
i actually put a couple in the freezer to chill em a bit before i try, and that's the two i chose.
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>>9262294
>i may wander into there soon to see what they got
that's the best way to find new stuff
i also keep an eye on https://craftypint.com/beers to see if there's anything that sounds interesting coming out

in VIC i like 3 ravens, mornington peninsula, boatrocker, bridge road
moon dog make a lot of experimental stuff, they're hit or miss though
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>>9263092
the chocolate is actually not too bad. i like it. it goes well with my monte.
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>>9258744
The one beer I cannot get around here. Makes me sad.
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The Midwest staple for me
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>>9262428
I liked it, but it wouldn't be in my top 5 list.
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>>9256330
This is great if you can find it, it's expensive but worth it.
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I hate IPAs and really like Stella and Yeungling, any of you guys got any craft beer recommendations?
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>>9263255
You could always try German or Brit beer. It isn't stupid hoppy, but still flavorful
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>>9260992
I shall try this.
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>>9263252
i agree
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>>9258660
Clean your glass you disgusting animal
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I work at two breweries local to me. I brew a beer at one, an oatmeal Baltic Porter that is my pride and joy. Look it up on untappd, it's called Jormangundr.

Currently drinking a gose from my other brewery, as I am also a huge fan of sours.
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>>9263059
If you pour it carefully it's lovely. You absolutely need a clean glass though, otherwise the head won't form properly and it will taste tart. It's up to you whether to pour in the sediment or not. If not, leave about 1cm of beer in the bottle.
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>>9263526
>you
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>>9263252
I always found it a little lacking compared to something like St. Bernardus Wit. Then again I'm not a huge Witbier fan in general, I much prefer German Hefeweizen. Still quite pleasant though. I wish my supermarket stocked more Japanese beers than just Hitachino Nest and the standard macros.
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>>9263255
Here are a few to get you started, you should be able to find most of them at beer shops or supermarkets unless you live in the desert or something.

Belgium
>Duvel
>Chimay White
>Delirium Tremens

Germany
>Jever
>Franziskaner
>Weihenstephaner

Czech Republic
>Pilsner Urquell
>Budweiser (original Budvar, not the piss from Burgerland)

UK
>Fuller's ESB
>Greene King Strong Suffolk
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>>9263533

Nah it was from an ATF thread on /k/ I posted in a ways back
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>>9263112
I swear if you put the Rochefort anywhere near a freezer I will find and kill you
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>>9263569
you're missing out man
>pour rochefort into a bowl
>put it in freezer until almost frozen solid
>must that shit up
>eat it like ice cream
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>>9263569
it's room temp. when im ready to drink it i will. ill let it get down to about 50 or what ever the suggested serving temp is. i dont remember.
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This is the best
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Has anyone tried Troegs Troegenator? It smells like wet dog for whatever reason, but it tastes okay.
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These guys just started distributing shit to my area. The artwork is gimmicky, but kind of cool. The names are fucked, but the beer is pretty great. Their saison is made with rye so it has that spice to it and it works really well.
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>>9261637
I'm not sure why, but I've actually never had anything from Schell's. I'll grab their oktoberfest next time I see it.
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Why do people hype up IPA's so much? Every single IPA that I've tried tasted horrible to me.
In contrast, the best beer I've had so far was a Scotch Ale out of a brewery in Indy. I've only recently got into beer, but I just don't understand why there's such a contrast between IPA hype and my personal experiences...
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Picked up a couple 4 packs of this
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>>9264446
No one hypes them up, they're just common. Avoid west coast style ipas and you'll probably find one you might enjoy. If not then go try other beer instead. No one cares.
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>>9262056
Pretty much anything Belgian or Belgian-style. Delirium Tremens, Duvel, various Trappist beers, etc.
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>>9264446
i wish Americans had become obsessed over Bitters and not IPAs.
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>>9264551
traditional bitters are super bland and boring though
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>>9264446
It's possible that you just don't like IPAs while other people do. I know it's a bit shocking to find out that different people like different things, but it's the truth.
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>>9261564
>>9262076

Slick minimalism is great and all, but it doesn't work when you get rid of a well-designed or iconic emblem in favor of something that you hope will attract hipsters who've "never heard of" the product.

>>9262272
I've had Eliot Ness and the Christmas Ale, maybe Fitzgerald porter too, but I don't recall. Aside from Perry IPA, anything else you'd recommend from Great Lakes? I'd like to go there next time I'm in Cleveland.

>>9260427
>>9262276

Just, why?
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>>9264446
You're at the other end of the spectrum is all. IPAs are super hoppy, Scotch ales are super malty. I can appreciate both but some people have tastes firmly in one camp or the other.

>>9264476
Any good? I can get Central Waters around me but I haven't really loved anything I've had from them yet.

>>9264551
I love a good ESB

>>9264586
if you don't recall if you've had the Edmund Fitz porter, you owe it to yourself to get it again. One of my favorite easily available porters.
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>>9264820
Any barrel aged central waters beer rules. Also their coffee stout is great
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>>9264827
I'll keep an eye out. Definitely interested in the barrel aged quad if I can get it
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Best beer reporting in
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Wait, are you from Vancouver and got a beer from Texas? Or the other way round?
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>>9265074
Meant to reply to
>>9263526
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>>9264586
Honestly, I have not tried a beer from Great Lakes brewery that I did not thoroughly enjoy. It's really going to come down to individual preference, and personally, I prefer the Perry IPA over the rest.
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Pleasantly surprised by my first Cloud water, looks like dishwater but very drinkable, nice mix of a biscuity sweetness, citrus notes, and tartness.
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Recently tried this brew from Ohio. Remarkably strong dark toffee, cocoa, and sour cherry flavours, would definitely recommend for stout aficionados.
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What's your favourite sorachi ace beer?
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>>9265384
Grisette is pretty dope usually. One of the nicest ''new'' styles these days imo.
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Pretty good adjunct ipa.
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>>9260427
Nice. I'm just drinking black and tan for the first time. Not as good as the original but considering I got 12 for $10 here in PA it's a great value.
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>>9265035
yep
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>>9262909
I had a rochefort 8 last night, I found it to be way too sweet.
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>>9262929
/goldsip/
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>>9263225
It's all over in ND.
>>9263595
You're disgusting
>>9265035
Those are amazing but it hurts paying 6-8 dollars for one bottle
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My buddy aged a 120 for 3 years and 2 years.. Taste like syrup.

We had a few won't stouts and he has some bourbon counties we gotta drink. Or he does.

Craft is awesome... To bad most of those bars are full of liberals and shit.
Every time I go I hear some bullshit Marxist propaganda. I laugh but fuuuck
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>>9258660
I'm a sucker for cheap gas station Mexican beer and lime
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>>9266157
awe, dont say that. i'm looking forward to it. i hope it's as good as the hype.
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>>9266672

I'm not sure how I feel about aged IPAs

My ex gf got us an 8 year aged DIPA from Keegan Ales in Poughkeepsie (the bottle cost $40 l m a o) and it tastes like carbonated sugar syrup. Absolutely overpowering and nothing like an IPA.

I'm a firm believer in the fresher the better for IPAs.
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>>9265437
Brooklyn (Saison)
Kees Export Porter 1750
Mornington (Kolsh)
Had one called Sorachi Face Plant yesterday which is a DIPA from England, it was alright but was almost a year old. I think it would have been excellent if it was fresh.
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>>9264827
Their barrel aged barleywine is also very good.

Central Waters' barrel aged game is on point.
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>>9265725
Evil Twin has always struck me as a brewery of extremes. Their stuff is always either 100/100 or absolute trash. Their stouts tend to be consistently great, though a few can be a bit sweet.
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>>9266672
>To bad most of those bars are full of liberals and shit.
That's why you just go to a store and buy it to drink in the comfort of your own home. Going to a "craft beer bar" is asking for a rustling.
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Sober tonight

If anyone is South Florida is down to go to a bar or something (or chill with some 32ozs of Colt 45) reply to me and I'm probably down

Heading back to Massachusetts soon, I'd like to go out a bit before leaving
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>>9267193
okay cya soon btw im a grill
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>>9267390

Who
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>>9267161
Why are racists so funny lool
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>>9267529
he disagrees with liberals and marxist propaganda and he's a racist? get the fuck out of here. no one actually hates people based on their race. people hate others based on that we are racists, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic and what ever else simply because we don't want to submit to socialism. i for one fucking despise that attidute from leftists and it makes me hate your fucking guts no matter what color your skin is. cuntbag.
Also, i really enjoyed the Imperial Stout from Samuel Smith's. I'm trying Hefe next.
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>>9267548
so how bout that beer
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>>9267555
i dont do the descriptors and all, but i like the way it feels in my mouth. and it doesn't leave an overbearing aftertaste. it's really nice and i cant taste the alcohol as much as i thought i would with a 7.0 abv.
i really enjoy the richness of it.
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so i decided to buy a few more rochefort 8 and another 2 westmalle tripel and age them a couple of years. i'll buy a new one when i open the aged ones and make a thread if /ck/ still exists.
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>>9267562
Samuel Smith Imperial Stout is my go-to when I want a dark beer but I'm not sure which one I want. And to think, my go-to used to be Guinness Extra Stout lol

Anyone had pic related? Never heard of it until I saw it at the liquor store about 2 weeks ago. Blows all the other Guinness flavors I've had totally out of the water. Nice high ABV too.
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>>9268126
i was watching reviews on jewtube earlier and saw one for that. i would very much like to try it.
what's your run-down on it? it's almost bed time for me, so i'm just having a few cold IPAs and sitting on the porch listening to music.
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>>9268144
It's toasty, much more so than Extra Stout. Rather creamy as well.

Another good one I tried recently is pic related. It has a smoky flavor, which took me totally off guard. Still enjoyed it overall, but I certainly prefer the Antwerpen.
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>>9267529
What did I say that was racist? I'm not going as far as >>9267548 and just said it's better to drink where you're comfortable, rather than around snobby, pretentious people.

People like you are delusional.
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>>9268168
Snobby and pretentious are both very loaded words that carry a lot of prejudice. I would feel equally uncomfortable drinking with somebody who used those terms so freely, regardless of the setting.
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>>9268171
i am going as far as >>9267548. especially after your shitty "loaded words" explanation.
if you ever hear an argument that makes sense to you hear this; being offended by words to the point of taking peoples' freedom to speak their mind is making it okay for considerations to lobby for politicians that will take your internet freedoms away. if you loooooove having a shithole website to spread your hate on, then you're working against yourself by destroying free speech and the people who defend it.
i cant fucking wait for net neutrality to be over. i'd really pay not to listen to your shit any more.
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>>9268184
considerations = corporations
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>>9268184
he thinks money is the solution to everything kek
captcha: autumn colbert
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perpetually offended = useful idiots. socialism wont care that you were a leftist. you'll be in the same shithole rut, except complaining will get you shot or hanged.
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>>9268188
>he thinks money
failure to realize that you're working toward your own defeat. simple concept, marxist.
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>>9268208
Keep chasing the unattainable carrot, my friend. Watching the hamster in his wheel never gets old.
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>>9264820
>Any good?
Yeah, its pretty good. I pretty much like any of the barrel aged stuff though (especially that barleywine)
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Just been drinking this for awhile. It's so damn easy and refreshing. I expected an overhopped mess, but it ended up reminding me of an off the wall helles lager.
That being said, my favorite beer from dfh is their Palo santo brown ale
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>>9268283
Crowd Control is the same way for me.
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>>9265384
>>9265386
>>9265725
good lads
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Had a fresh Orval, a cellared Orval, a Rochefort 10 and a cellared Westy 12 today for lunch. Overall it was a thoroughly rewarding experience, especially if you pair the quads with some strong blue stilton or Trappist cheese. Would definitely recommend if given the opportunity.
Pic related is a honey mustard marinated steak that went excellently with the Orval.
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>>9268419
where do you get those heirloom tomatoes?
i grow mine. what cheese maker did you get the stilton from?
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>>9268427
Tomatoes are home grown, Stilton was from the local market, I forgot the name but it was definitely German made lol
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>>9268440
right on. thanks.
nothing like home grown tomatoes.
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>>9268440
they are heirloom, or are they just some variety that i'm not familiar with? we don't have many yellow tomatoes that don't have a heritage designation.
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>>9268171
>Snobby and pretentious are both very loaded words that carry a lot of prejudice.
This has got to be satire, right?

Going "REE RACIST!" from what >>9267161 said is just plain stupid. Doubling down is just plain autism.

I'd rather drink with someone who calls a snob a snob, than with someone who labels inoffensive words as bigotry.


Pic related was a really nice quad. Boulevard puts out a lot of good stuff in general.
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haze showdown
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>>9268283
>Palo santo brown ale
I tried this a little while ago, it was great. Try their 90 Minute IPA too.
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>>9268642
90 minute still holds up as one of the best dipas around imo. The only other dfh beer I really want to try is their world wide stout. 120 minute was disgusting, but I'm glad I got to try it.
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>>9268683
>The only other dfh beer I really want to try is their world wide stout.
It's very good. I found it very drinkable and pleasant compared to other super high ABV stouts, like Avery's Mephistopheles - which I found cloyingly sweet.
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>>9268633
Only a snob deals in absolutes. Reality is analogue, and should be treated as such linguistically.
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>>9268780
you fuckers keep doing that and i'm going to have to get some to drink nowish. like... not comparatively, but for a baseline test. i've not had it yet. it's making me itch.
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>>9268780
>I have no real point to make, so here's some philosophical gibberish and a picture of a great beer.
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>>9269112
>I dropped out of 4th grade and can't understand big fancy words or context.
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>>9262056
Oddly enough this stuff is easy drinking.

It fucks you up though
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>>9266672
Too bad 120 sucks dick
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>>9264820
The bba stuff from central waters is surprisingly good
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>>9269324
>dank star wars meme
>iamverysmart
Still waiting for you to make a point, rather than falling back on tired attempts to be witty.

You and the /pol/ wackjob should both fuck off.
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>>9268641
43 is pretty tough to beat although it isn't the same as Lawson or Alchemist stuff.
The other stuff in the series is alot closer to some of the new england stuff ive had. Slum lord is kinda meh, maybe heineken can step Joe's game back up. Hoping cat grass is the shit when it comes out on weds.
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I've come to find that I don't like pic related as much as Old Rasputin or Ten Fidy. Anyone have any RIS recommendations?

>>9268780
>Only a snob deals in absolutes. Reality is analogue, and should be treated as such linguistically.
I'm not sure how to respond to this to be honest. I really don't get what you're trying to say, but it seems pretty snobby. Stringing together common phrases in an attempt to sound educated when it doesn't really fit the context doesn't work too well. You're not the type of person any sane individual would want to have a beer with.
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>>9269436
As a New Englander trying to explore more local breweries, do you have any recommendations?

I'm familiar with/like Allagash, NEBCo, Jack's Abby, Two Roads, and Lawson's.
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I bought Nut Brown Ale by Sam Smith. It's 5.0 and very drinkable. What's the word on this english swill? Why is it not as acclaimed as other beers on these threads?
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>>9269477
Honestly I'm in Michigan and it is a pain. In the ass getting your stuff here. Other than the big ones im sure you already know about I can't help much other than what gets thrown into trades. Getting shit out of small regional brewers takes work even if the stuff wasnt wildly popular. Thank God Michigan has good trade bait.
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Imo as long as you're not like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJVTV6c8P8 you're not being too pretentious about beer. Can we stop with all the sjw pol stuff please.

>>9269461
you might like Storm King, though it's a bit hoppy like Yeti. Founders' imperial stout is good too.

>>9269477
Try Maine brewing co. if you can, they're pretty good

>>9269483
>Sam Smith
Their stouts get a lot of love in these threads. As a whole, the brewery is generally accepted as solid/consistent/good, but nothing crazy/amazing.
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>>9269483
Try St Pete's and be ready for another very good traditional brewery. It's not talked about because it's readily availible and well known, so it can't play well in the dick waving contest that is ck.
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>>9269502
I could say the same about some stuff from Michigan! Though the big ones around you have way more export power than ours. Out of the ones I listed, Allagash probably gets around the most. Sip of Sunshine is great - a local gastropub gets it on draft once in a while, I've yet to get my hands of the Topper though.
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Unironically best beer.

>aesthetic
>not so carbonated as to hide actual taste
>simultaneously dark and creamy but also light in the stomach
>called the "breakfast beer" because people want to start their day with it
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>>9269525
Truth on alot of our stuff hitting good distribution. As long as i can get what i need and not have it shipped halfway across the country im ok
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>>9269535
A guiness and a grilled cheese got me through the 5 year long hangover that was my college career
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>>9269535
its the Bud Light of stouts
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>>9269538
Which oddly enough, some how works
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>>9269536
>BBA Expedition Stout
It makes me sad that I'll probably never get this. I only ever really see KBS, SMS, and Dragon's Milk around here, aside from the occasional overpriced bomber from some random brewery.

On a side note, I've always found normal Expedition Stout much less bitter than most other Russian Imperials.

Ale Smith is another super solid brewery. Speedway Stout is a golden standard for imperial stouts IMO. Haven't seen Private Stock around yet though.
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>>9269558
Private stock is a ticket buy deal on evntbrite. Join the mailing list and if you know a good mule in San Diego you can get it.

The bba expedition is fantastic. I'm obsessed with black note, which took me forever to get because of its weird production and me being to lazy to put any kind of effort into it. Black note is incredibly smooth but still has great body. It's awesome. Apparently it is a blend of bba expedition and bba double cream, and the double cream, being the low and smooth part of the equation some times doesnt bba well so the expedition is supposedly twice as rare as the black note and pretty big. It rocks my socks.
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I'm drinking lagunitas imperial stout
their 22 oz bottles are only 5 bucks each
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\I've been drinking this beer tonight. It was pretty nice. haven't drunk a beer in months, It's pretty nice. I don't really keep beer in my fridge since I moved to Belgium the supermarket is close and has more choice in beer there then a beer shop in my homecountry
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>>9256330
Nothing beats Guinness imo
Had a chocolate and coffee flavoured stout recently, tasted like shit
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>>9270051
A better pic of the label
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>>9270066
almost every random American stout is better than Guinness
Guinness is good in the realm of cheap international beer though
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>>9270066
Guinness draught is objectively bad. Their extra stout is mediocre at best.
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>>9265725
Evil Twin is my absolute favorite brewery I think.
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>>9269483
Tbh I think Samuel Smith is the most pimped English brewery in these threads.
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>>9270150
you can remove the word "american" senpai
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>>9259871
I wish I could get some arrogant bastard. They sold them here for 2.50 a can which actually is cheaper than they sell them in california. But now it seems they ran out.
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>>9270066
>I'm intimidated by good flavours: the post

Perhaps dark lagers are more your speed?
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>>9272292
Your post makes me that bit more grateful I've got decent craft-beer shops where I live in the southwest of England. Produce from the local breweries is adequate at best, so I'm fortunate that I can buy all the Belgian and American classics I want.
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Had a long day and will have pic related. Never had it before so I'm excited.
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>>9256383
how? at my old restaurant we get fined if people are drinking outside. Hostess/Manager always run out the restaurant to stop that shit.
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>>9271940

kek'd

t. ayinger fanboy
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>>9256330
Some good Stouts:

Marooned on Hog Island (hard to find but amazing)
Ass Clown's Sea Salt Stout wasn't bad
Burial also has some good ones
and the best for last - On Fleek ( it's a stupid name in a stupid can, but shit it's god tier)
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>>9258660
Corona with a lemon or lime wedge
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>>9261964
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww sweetwater?! lol jk, we all gotta start somewhere. try some wicked weed IPA's
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>>9256330
>tfw aftewtioweiot
I wanna go buy some beer but I know it's not good for me. Both phisically and mentally. SHOULD I DO IT I WANNA DO IT. I WOULD BUY CHIPS TOO
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Do yourselves a favor and try to get your hans on this one. Then it's /thred.
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>>9273062

sierra nevada, oskar blues, and highland brewing are also my favorites
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>>9261602
Excellent beer
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What's everybody drinking tonight? Gose master race reporting in
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>>9274555
>things and stuff
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>>9274555
oh fuck me I got trips and the picture is sideways

>>9270066
weak as hell dude

whereabouts are you? There should be some solid non-chocolate-y stouts or porters no matter where you are. Or you could find a schwarzbier, which is honestly the best kind of dark beer

>>9274568
what's the unopened unlabeled bottle tho
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>>9274555
Hey how is that? I've been meaning to try it but just haven't wanted a gose in awhile
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>>9272967
Literally no idea what you're trying to say here.
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>>9275970
I liked it! Not a fan of much of anything from Fulton but this is pretty good.
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>>9273162
I bought a sixer of Oktoberfest from Sierra Nevada this morning. I'm trying my first one now, and I like it.
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>>9270051
Looks interesting. I've never seen that. What's your home country?
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>>9269537
hahah i'm imagining 5 years of boozed fueled shenanigans and a wild graduation party, waking up early on a tuesday morning, staggering down to the kitchen with weak knees and yellow skin, firing up the stove and getting out bread, butter, cheese and guinness... eating and then going on about life as if you weren't in the throws of alcoholism for 5.5 years.
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>>9272658
It's still expensive tho. 2 to 3 Euro for a 0.33 bottle. But the taste makes up for it. Also found a local store that has a ton of craft beer and other more rare beer in general. Hope that fixes my issue from bow on.
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Bow to the king
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>>9278707
And for when I feel like spending unnecessary amounts of money (alcohol is retardedly expensive here)
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>>9276870
Really? Their pils is solid and I love lonely blonde. All their special releases are good too. Libertine is just okay
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Finally tried this, did not disappoint
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it was alright, pretty much what I expected
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Live in Austin. So many options. Currently enjoying this.
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>>9256330
>tfw pbr used to be hoppy to me
>now it tastes like water
Is it growing up or alcoholism?
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>>9265035
Thanks, best beer
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>>9278727
i love that shit.
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>work in the industry
>NBB Ranger was always pretty much watery shit
>NBB rebrands it as "Voodoo Ranger" IPA and allegedly tweaks the recipe
>tons of customers who never liked IPAs before start coming through my shop buying it up and ranting about how amazing it is
>I don't believe it's actually good now, but I'm selling more beer so I can't complain
>months later, just tonight, at a friends and drink a couple of them
>it's just a slightly different hue of shitty watered down, sub-par IPA
I shouldn't complain since money is being made selling it, but I get irrationally irritated when marketing convinces people that mediocre old shit is suddenly an outstanding brew.
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>>9278727

It's a shame AB/Inbev own that now.
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>>9278727
>>9279798
Enjoy your Budweiser® DIPA.

Since AB InBev failed at competing with actual craft breweries, they just started throwing insane amounts of money at the ownership of craft breweries and buying them out. So far they haven't fucked up Elysian much, but I'll point to Goose Island as a reference to what eventually happens.
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>>9279867
Self disclaimer: To my knowledge, all the GI "Vintage" and "Bourbon County" brews are still done by the old hands in Chicago. All their year-round and normal seasonal releases are mass-produced in an AB facility.
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>>9256330
Sierra Nevada's Tropical Torpedo IPA
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>>9279916
"Torpedo 2.0"
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>>9279867
Goose Island IPA is still as good as ever. Evidently AB InBev isn't tampering with the brew's recipe, mass production or not.

On that note, is mass-production really such a bad thing for craft-beer? I don't see people complaining about Stone or Brooklyn when they produce enough to ship internationally.
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>>9280205
>is mass-production really such a bad thing for craft-beer?
According to beer neckbeards anything popular is bad.

The entire "craft beer" culture in America was built by edgy malcontents whose entire lives revolved around the avoidance of the mainstream. Through sheer force of will they managed to convince several generations of youngsters that edgy X-TREEM is good. Their own success was their undoing. Good beer became "normal beer", reactionaries began to embrace balance instead of extremes, and these hardened embittered "craft beer" neckbeards roam around aimlessly like a war veteran with PTSD, screeching about PISSWATER and whining about how terrible it is that companies like Goose Island received capital injections to make good beer even MORE widely available than before.

>I don't see people complaining about Stone or Brooklyn

That's because those beers are beneath contempt, so why even mention them. If a beer is known by more than three people it's PISSWATER.
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coors banquet here
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>>9280236
I for one am happy that I can get beer I only was able to drink in california before now in Germany too. It should be about the taste and not some pretentious hipster culture.
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>>9280236
>Good beer became "normal beer"

You hit the nail on the head! Consumer standards for beer worldwide have soared to the point that previously niche breweries are now the big dogs on the market, with more and more microbreweries flooding in to saturate it. Beer hipsterism has become mainstream, and it's easy to see how the iconoclast feels even more alienated than before now Chad McNormie's sipping from his glass.

Still, what matters at the end of the day is quality, and I would rather have good beer shipped from the other side of the Atlantic than subsist on mediocre product from the small local breweries in my town. The notion that esotericism can cover incompetence is the pinnacle of wishful thought.
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>>9280205
>Goose Island IPA is still as good as ever.
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>>9280351
Then what, pray tell, is it supposed to 'really' taste like? I'm drinking one right now, and it's pretty strongly hopped, a touch harsh even when compared to IPAs from other independent breweries.
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>>9280363
it's supposed to taste very obscure. you've probably never tasted it.
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>>9280321
You post like you're role playing as Fraiser or some shit and it's so very very sad.
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>>9280236
>while companies like Goose Island receive capital injections to outsource production of their core portfolio to InBev factories in order to ship a gimped version to MORE markets while setting up preferential allocation systems to ensure that their remaining worthwhile brews only go to bigbox accounts that return the financial reach around
ftfy
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>>9280363
Less pronounced 2-row malt profile, more ester. Not to mention that in the local area it went from being a month or less from DOB, to being 3-7 months old when hitting shelves after the production shift to InBev.
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>>9280389
So it tasted something more like this? I'm aware it's a double IPA, but this was what came to mind with your description.
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>>9280401
RIP Resin. Sixpoint reformulated it and re-released it with a new package and logo" a few months ago. If you're a fan and see any of the old package around I'd grab it now 'cause original Resin is indefinitely retired. The new stuff is solid, and has a bit more of a NE style juicy hop profile, bit I preferred the sharper punch of the original Resin.
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>>9269538
Yeah you've probably been drinking it straight from the can or gotten it out of shit bar from a shit bartender
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Enjoying a cold one
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>>9280473
NO! what the fuck? why?
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>>9280373
spot the triggered craft beer neckbeard
why don't you move to mexico or brazil? somewhere that you can still be special because you don't drink macro adjuncts
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>>9280473
Wait, when exactly did this 'reformulation' happen? The only news I can find regarding recipe changes are back in 2012, and I can't find any images of cans different to what I posted.
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>>9280750
Calm down, it's not as scary as it seems. Here's Resin's announcement about recipe changes:

http://sixpoint.com/blog/all-fresh-formulations/

As a matter of fact, I don't think they changed the Sixpoint recipe this year, other than leaving it unfiltered. Thus, I really don't get what >>9280473 is trying to get at, and where they got their news.
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>>9279829
yeah it's still bad
the DIPA is even worse
>>9278720
I guess now that I think about it I like Ringer too. Need to try the pils, but I really didn't like Lonely Blonde. I haven't gotten my hands on the special releases but I'm hoping too
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>>9268283
60 min is great. 90 min is shat.
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>>9274616
Probably homebrew. If you look at the bottle with the blue hello name tag it looks like a homemade label.

I brew, and keg, my own beer but when I take some to a friends house i'll bottle some up in Firestone bottles (same style as unlabeled beer in pic). I also use the same gold bottle caps.
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>>9278847
I'm not sure if I have ever tried a saison. What do they taste like? for some reason I have the belief they are sour/tart
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>>9281195

I was going to write something up for you, but this is a good summary. Most important is the dry finish and almost fruity estery flavor from the Belgian yeast, IMO.

Just brewed my first saison and am excited to try it, especially now that I have a kegerator and don't need to bottle. Will post results when it's done (in like, two weeks).
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>>9281300
Congrats on building your kegerator. I bottled my first batch of beer and then decided I never wanted to do it again and built my setup. My only regret is thinking 2 beers on tap was enough and buying a small freezer.

I want to rebuild it coffin style so it's a bit more presentable and can go inside the house instead of the garage.
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Who is going? What beers u guys pumped to try? Can't wait to try some of the firkins desu.
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>>9264476
Wew where did u get it
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>>9281570
(((Berg)))
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anyone know anything like this but perhaps without the fucking edgelord memery
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>>9281611

Welcome to german names, mein Freund.
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>>9281042
Worthy adversary is pretty hoppy at first. I keep mine for around a year before drinking. Patience is just all around good
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>>9281784
My local store has BA Libertine and one of the Culture series, what would you recommend?

>>9281186
Makes sense. My uncle homebrews, I probably should have recognized that
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>>9281042
Lonely Blonde is their their top seller, but it's pretty boring beer. If you're into happy brews definitely check out Fulton 300 (mosaic single hop) and sometime in September they'll be releasing another (hopefully larger) batch of Hopstar if you missed it back in June. That was some outstanding, hazy, juicy citrus-bomb session IPA bzns.
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Beer is significantly cheaper than hard liquor here because of pointless tax reasons, so what's the best beer I can buy to get hammered?
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>>9282329
I wanted to try Hopstar! I liked 300, but Sweet Child of Vine is one of the worst IPAs I've had.

>>9282334
Where is "here"
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Does beer keep without refrigeration in a growler (short term)? If so, for how long?

There's a lot of conflicting and conjectural information on the internet.
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>>9282496
Fridge or not, I try to finish my growlers within two weeks. Had to store a growler at room temp a couple times in college and it was always fine within that time period.

I mean of course that's anecdotal but whaddya gonna do
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>>9282346
Yeah, Fulton's first run of Hopstar was really small and sold out within a week. The next run is supposed to be a lot more substantial and there are whispers on the grape vine that it might go into year-round production if this second batch is as well received as the first.
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>>9282308
I'm not a huge fan of red ales. Just get 300 or the pils instead and wait around for more worthy adversary and patience
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>>9282308
>>9282629
Yeah, don't bother with Libertine. It's a dud from their 4pk series of brews. If you want a good red, Founders released reDANKulous in 4pk/12oz this year instead of 22oz bombers like previous releases. It's a damned well done imperial red IPA clocking in at 9.5% for $11-12/4pk.
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>>9280851
Correct. The cans still look identical (aside from dating the bottoms) and only the box changed.

>>9280862
I got the rundown regarding the Resin reformulation from Sixpoint's regional brand manager in the midwest. After a side-by-side tasting with the original Resin I commented on the more acidic, overly ripe pineapple note that reminded me of Hi-Res, upon which he admitted they had tweaked the hops for Resin 2.0 but would not disclose the specific changes. It's still a great beer, but they made more changes than just skipping filtration.
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>>9259498
Mate, have you tried matzo's mango beer?
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>>9259498
Moa is a NZ brand but their russian imperial stout makes it over to Australia and it's pretty solid. One of the driest stouts I've had
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>>9263252
Holy shit this stuff is incredible. Too bad the only place near me that sells the stuff sells it for 5 bucks a bottle.
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>tfw developed a taste for Asian beers
>tfw love Asahi, Tiger, Chang and Singha
>tfw the only Asian beer that is sold around me is Kirin and Sapporo

I guess I should consider myself lucky that I'm best buds with the liquor manager at the grocery store I work at, he gets me in a case of whatever Asian stuff he can get a hold of
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>>9283204
My gf drinks Asahi as her go-to, gotta say it ain't that bad. Definitely prefer Tiger but I never see it here
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>>9262428

Deschutes is God tier
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>>9256330
My normal go-to is Nama beer, Moretti, Sapporo Premium, Corona with a lime, or one of the sam adam's lagers.
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>>9258660
Amaretto Sour, with or without gingerale. The bittersweet is just so good.
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>>9283473
Picked up 6-pack of Obsidian on a whim tonight, gotta agree my man. One of the best stouts I've ever had
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>>9269976
I love this stuff. It goes so good with dark chocolate.
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>>9282496
If you properly (and I mean PROPERLY) sterilised the growler before filling it and seal it airtight, the beer should keep for about as long as bottled beer does (i.e. 6-9 months).

While beer won't 'spoil' in these conditions, it will inevitably go flat as carbon dioxide escapes, and oxidise, both of which are going to ruin the taste. Thus, I'd advise you to prolong freshness by buying growlers that are opaque or made of brown glass, and finish drinking as fast as possible.
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>>9282858
Thanks, anon, that's good to know. I wish I could contact craft brewers as easily as you.
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>>9284255
As an addendum; I neglected to mention that cask beers are usually unpasteurised in contrast to bottle beers, so shelf life is actually going to be a lot less (closer to 2 months, even in cold storage). There's a reason why kegerators exist.

Again, the alcohol in beer should keep bacteria from building up to harmful levels, but freshness doesn't last long.
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>>9284255
>>9284309
thanks nerd
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>>9283743
I don't get stout, it's absolutely gross to me.

My friend bought me a growler of extra dark coffee chocolate stout and I just found it fucking undrinkable.

So what to do? Ordered the GF to make brownies with it.

The result? The greatest brownies I have ever eaten.
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>>9284826
It's definitely not for everyone. I just love a cold glass of it. But fuck those brownies sound good
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>>9279829
I go for the Imperial every chance I get. 9% and under $10. Great bang for your buck although it takes some time to shake off the Imperial taste.
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>>9256330
so my grandmother buys schafer
do you think its a good beer?
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>>9284909
http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/chocolate-stout-brownies
Check it out, there's tons of recipes out there, but chocolate stout brownies are unbelievably good
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Anyone have any mixed drink recipes involving beer? I've had the standard "stout and Bailey's and Kahlua" variations, wondering if there's any others
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>>9260992
I named my dog after Hamms
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>day-old ipa
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>>9256330

>live in the best beer state
>cutting carbs so no beer

life is fucking suffering
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>>9286679
eat less bread famalam, I've been having a veggie-heavy diet this summer and working out three times a week, two beers a night typically and I'm feeling great
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>>9286665
Shit, that's hoppy.
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>>9286665
>D&W

Oh shit, which one? I used to work in the store on Breton near EGR

Also, wanted to try some of that at HopCat in Kzoo but it was already sold out. Insane.
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fratty Natty
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>>9287090
Tip of the mitt. I think it is pretty cool they wheel the shit out of the cooler as it sells down even for the middle of the aisle. My 6ers were cooooooold.
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>>9287165
>Not the daddy

Pussy
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>>9272798
I think this is the best beer from Kees.
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>>9287185

Yeah, every D&W store is very nice. A little bit pricier on the grocery side but you get what you pay for. And great beer selection obviously.
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>>9288273
Their porter is the only one I've tried, it's flipping dope.
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>>9260315

>Flensburger Pilsner

I'll never forget popping open one of those bad boys in Berlin... wish I could get it in Canada
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Just had a founders kbs. Awesome beer. Probably the best stout I've had. Any recomendations stout wise?

Also commercially Guinness Antwerpen stout is good.
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>>9289964
Pic related
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>>9290060
Any Evil Twin stout is delicious, but pic related is especially so
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>>9290065
Pic related also makes terrific ice cream floats
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>>9289964
You might also want to consider trying barleywines.
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>>9262066
my man
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>>9290074
Aw yeah, barleywines! I'm currently trying to locate bottles of Bigfoot.

By the way, I'd like some consensus on the definition of the term; if a beer reaches a certain ABV, can it qualify as a barleywine regardless of brewing method/style?
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>>9290060
>>9290065

Cheers

>>9290074

I'll broaden my horizons. What's the average alcohol percentage of a barleywine. Don't usually stray above the 10 percent mark. Even thought the KBS was smooth even at 12
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>>9290117
I live across the street from a Sierra Nevada tasting room. I'd definitely recommend trying the barrel-aged Bigfoot with ginger.

I don't believe so. Barleywines get their name from their barley content. There are beers called "wheatwines" so I expect the same premise to apply
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>>9290149
Barleywines usually come in around 10% ABV. I've seen some that are higher (up to ~14%) and some that are lower (~8%) in ABV.
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>>9289964
Kbs sucks dick this year. No bourbon character. Chocolate and malt for days. Lots of other people are making better stouts and kbs is fantastic trade bait. Glad you like it, sorry it is the worst in years
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>>9290182
Not going to lie, I'm pretty damn envious of you. There definitely seem to be a few experimental flavours being market-tested on that board.

By the way, since a lot of beer styles are made exclusively with barley malt anyway, what's stopping a big porter, stout, or Belgian ale being labeled 'barleywine'?
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>>9290117
>barley wines

7 days till this fucking hardys meets its end
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>>9290414
Then could you list these stouts you think are better than KBS this year? That's a bold claim, considering it's a perennial high-ranking brew on critics' lists.
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>>9290414
>If you ever see it

The best for years In michigan production
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>>9290439
>what they make when they fuck that up


Uuuuuuuge beer. Checks all the boxes of the note but not as smooth
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>>9290419
Yeah, there are some great experimental beers that come through the tasting room.

From The Oxford Companion to Beer: "barley wine is the strongest of beers and while not always literally approaching the alcohol content of whine, usually surmounts the strength of ales referred to as "strong" and "old", to which they are related. The first beers we now think of as barley wines sprang from the British farmhouse tradition, often as beers brewed from the first runnings (strong worts) of multiple-brew single mashes, which were infused a number of times to yield worts of diminishing strength. This system is know as paratigyle and is still employed in some British breweries. Barley wines are often brewed to alcoholic strengths of 10% ABV, and sometimes more" There's a lot more to this entry.

Porters, stout, or Belgian ales don't use as much barley, at least in my brewing experience. You use some barley to get the reddish tones in darker ales, but you're relying much more heavily on the roasted malts to give color.
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>>9290437
>>9290437
>See: below you


Also: everyone makes better than this years kbs... fuck dkml is better than kbs this year. It is weak swill to pay for a brewery expansion and a line expansion (the ba series no less) based off that notoriety. It is swill and pales in comparison to what they once made. Whores in GR
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just had rochefort 6 for the first time today.

i think i have a new favorite beer
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>>9290461
Thanks for the info; repeated mash brewing might partly explain stronger/darker beers having a reputation for higher quality (with exceptions in extreme cases), since they would logically be much fresher.

And of all the beers you've tried at the tasting room (including those on the board in your pick), which did you like best? Which do you think have a chance of entering their portfolio?
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>>9290611
That'll be it then. I'm going to get some more that I can try now. I can't wait to see how it ages.
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>>9288273
Was pretty good and a worthy beer for ending a shitty day.
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>>9290657
I really enjoy their barrel aged offerings. I've had BA Bigfoot, a BA wheatwine, and a BA Madeira Quad that was spectacular. Hoptimum, a triple IPA, is also surprisingly drinkable. They also made a red IPA in collaboration with Karl Strauss Brewing that was fantastic. I'd be happy if any of those enter their regular lineup.
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>>9290611
what temp was it when you drank it?
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>>9290675

it was in my 30 degree fridge for 5 days
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>>9269502

I'm in NYC and I've noticed Sip of Sunshine is becoming easier and easier to get so I guess it's becoming mainstream. A place by me has it on tap and I was at a random gas station a couple weeks ago and noticed they had a 4 pack sitting in the fridge....

I think Sip of Sunshine is the most over rated of the popular craft beers

Pic related: best beer I've ever had. Was impossible to get when the delicate fags on the left made them change the name so they didn't feel so triggered, pretty sure it was out of production for a while.
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>>9290841
so, it's okay to drink them as cold as you want? i wouldn't want to destroy the flavor by over chilling it, but i don't like warm beer either.
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>>9291095
what about the name made the left upset?
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>>9291263

I just copy pastad this from an nbc article but basically the Indian community got a hard on once they noticed Gandhi in the name


> After weeks of outcry from the Indian-American community, the New England Brewing Company, makers of a best-selling craft beer named “Gandhi-bot,” has agreed to change the brew's name, a Connecticut state legislator told NBC News.

“They’ve given us a timeline of two to three months by which time everything will be complete,” said Prasad Srinivasan, after a meeting with the company last week. “They’ve already apologized and now they will change the name. That sounds reasonable to me.”

New England Brewing Company’s issued a statement on Thursday about the meeting. “After careful consideration we feel that renaming Gandhi-Bot is the right move (the beer will remain the same),” the release stated. “We have begun the process of renaming and rebranding this beer which may take up to three months. Taking these steps will allow us to express our support for the Indian-American community while also limiting any economic losses.”
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>>9291301
holy shit. that's disheartening.
thanks.
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Thank you all for contributing. I learned a lot and appreciate it. If I don't see a beer thread next time I'm bored on the internets, I'll make it.
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>>9291163

i have nothing to compare it to, as i haven't had it warm before, but it's almost like drinking chilled, slightly carbonated whiskey.
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>>9291481
i like it slightly chilled. barely cold enough to get the glass sweaty.
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