>move to california >literally no good pizza places

>>9237176
>expecting to find pizza in the USA.
Dumb weeb.

>implying

papa johns is open everywhere

>>9237182
Italy may have invented it but we perfected it.

>>9237184
kys

>>9237176
who is this cute and mature anime

>>9237176
Where in california?

>>9237176
I don't remember the name, but there's some world renown pizza place in the north bay area.

>>9237193
Italy didn't invent the pizza.

>>9237176
But anon, are you saying you don't like California Pizza Kitchen?

>>9237224
South bay.

>>9237248
Yeah not too great options, you can try Pizza Antica in San Jose, as far as south bay goes it's not that bad and the wine list, though completely incoherent, at least has some items other than shitty calishart butter bomb chardonnay and vanilla smuckers "pinot noir" that costs as much as 1st growth burgundy

>>9237264
>pizza
>wine list
u fukin wot

>>9237264
What about San Francisco?

>>9237264
>wine list
>menu doesn't list prices
uh-oh

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>>9237286
>he doesn't pick a pizza place based on the wine list
Pic related from one of my favorite spots, this is like page 2 of 8
>>9237305
A16
>>9237316
It's a backwoods "gourmet" pizza place, the fact that they even have a handful of drinkable wines is already a major accomplishment

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>>9237328
>he picks pizza place based on wine list
It's pizza bro. Grab a slice.

>>9237332
Actual slice joints only exist in NYC and any alcohol at all is not normal. You want a wine you are going to a whole pie joint, you want a good wine you are going to a neapolitan style joint

We are talking about California, which is a far cry from NYC. I suggest you read the thread

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>>9237328
>A16
>website is more about wine than pizza
STOP IT CALIFORNIA

>>9237232
Italians did though, on their way to Ellis Island.

>>9237343
Wine is life. If a restaurant doesn't care about wine that means they don't care about food

>>9237176
Bullshit. America is one giant mini mall and California has NY style pizza places everywhere.

>"california has great food you stupid flyover"
>overpriced mediocre poo/chink/jap/gook place every block
Impressive.

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>>9237328
>Drinking wine that is now vinegar from 1996

I love California and their residents, they're hilarious.

>>9237361
I went to one such place with good reviews and the pizza was shit.
Almost every customer was Indian.

Someones never been to pizza port

>>9237368
>California has NY style pizza places everywhere
No, what they have is "NY style pizza" places everywhere, emphasis on the scare quotes. Just like they have "NY style bagel joints", also in scare quotes.

I mean to be fair, I haven't been to all of California, just most of the SF Bay Area, some of the central coast, and some of LA and San Diego. Who knows maybe there is a thriving NY Slice culture in Visalia or Eureka or something? But I doubt it.

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>>9237361
>wine fags

>>9237370
That is a wine list from a place in NYC though
>>9237372
I suspect those were actually dosas, I guess they must be calling them "spicy pizzas" to market them to flyovers?

>>9237389
No it was clearly pizza and marketed as pizza.
There's like a million Indians here so not surprising they eat it up.

>>9237404
I have literally never seen an Indian place that gives a shit about wine. The midrange places are full of terrible australian wines and moscato, and even the michelin starred joints fall into the "it's non-european food so the only options should be gewurtz and riesling lmao xd xd" meme.

>>9237378
Where exactly? In Orange county they had some places, even in Carlsbad.

I can get it in Oshkosh Wisconsin. It's literally a family who opened a pizzarea who is from New Jersey. They get the meats and stuff delivered from over there and make it the same way. Ive heard NY Jews before "it's not da same because day authentic NY tap water..." Give me a fucking break.

>>9237413
I hate moscato and riesling equally. They both taste like spiked gatorade.

>>9237420
>where exactly
I don't understand the question, do you want me to list every CDP I've set foot in?

The "tap water" thing is overblown just like the soil thing for wine. It's about ingredients and preparation, and I'm sorry but when the crust is literally fried in canola oil and the pizza is topped with green bean casserole, tater tots, and chicken wings, it's not a NY style pizza, I don't care how much you "feel" it is.

>>9237413
>it's non-european food so the only options should be gewurtz and riesling lmao xd xd" meme.
Are you making this shit up or are just a troll?

>>9237430
Because you're drinking shitty cheap risling.

As for moscato, it can't be redeemed.

>>9237433
What aspect of it do you think I'm making up?

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>drinking wine

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>>9237176
>>9237224
>>9237243
>>9237248
>>9237264
>>9237305
>>9237343
>>9237370
>>9237372
>>9237378
>>9237420
Only good pizza here, CA is all about the cracker crust and low carb trends. No breadstick dense crust.

>>9237210
Jim from Va-11 Hall-A

>>9237479
>phoneposting
*Jil

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Lol, nothing beats Little Caesars.

>>9237456
This is some of the worst frozen pizza I've had , which is saying a lot considering the competition

>>9237622
Go to store and get the fresh baked pizza, why would you go for frozen?

>>9237176
>moving to California
This was your first mistake.

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>>9237176
I would almost have to know what your idea of a good pizza is. People raised on Domino's, incredibly, might think that's a good pizza. It's like a meatloaf or pot roast that your mother made. Pizza is childhood comfort food to Americans, and a lot depends on early experiences.

For my taste, you could do a lot worse than Costco pizza, but the "best" is probably going to be some place that's not well-known as a big chain.

>>9237757
Somebody has to support the red states, the biggest drain on federal dollars, lol ;)

>>9237757
It's where the jobs are.

>>9237824
I heard Trump is going to ban Apple and other useless companies and real American jobs like digging and hammering will finally come back so our children don't have to go to liberal indoctrination camp aka "schools"

>>9237193
On a serious note: do people actually believe this?

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>>9237947
Yes.

>>9237758
I like Joe's Pizza in NY and neapolitan style pizza.

>>9237947
>>9237959
Italian and American pizza are two different experiences for me.
When I eat Italian Pizza I want something different out of it.

I don't know exactly how to describe it but Italian Pizza places taste very different to American.
There's usually such a sharpness and freshness to the marinara sauce. Part of it tastes like there's wine in it.

I don't know how to describe it but when I want a really refreshing pizza where I savor all the ingredients and it melts in my mouth I go for italian.

if I want a pizza that is satisfying and comforting, and something I can pig out on. I'll go for American.

I think the Italian thin crust is what makes the biggest difference. IDK

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>>9238015
I get you bro.

I love a good margherita but there's something so satisfying about pigging out on a big fat greasy flyover style pie.

>>9238037
I would say Italian Pizza is better tasting, but the irony is I'd crave American Pizza more.
Italian Pizza is like once in a blue moon, kind of meal.

>california
>expecting coastie roasties to actually have good anything

>>9237803
>commiefornians actually believe this when they themselves are barely being kept afloat with government money because of their huge welfare problems
Most of the huge Silicon Valley corporations store their profits overseas anyways.

>>9238054
That's just factually wrong, California generates more revenue than it receives from the government.

>>9238049
Is coastie only west coast?

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Got this from a new place up here in la crescenta

Pretty delicious

>>9237940
Sweetie, if you're going to troll, at least put some effort in. This is just lazy.

>>9238087
Yeah, but everyone gets butthurt when we present them with that fact. They just can't comprehend that we're subsidizing them.

>>9238087
Nice opinion commie

>>9238094
dude that looks like ameci's

>>9238110
http://www.politifact.com/california/article/2017/feb/14/does-california-give-more-it-gets-dc/

>>9238133
Give a real source not (((Politifact)))

>Go to California for a week
>decide to get two pizzas from papa johns one night while we're staying in
>find a 30% off, normally I can get 40 or 50 but whatever
>use it
>pizzas come to 40 dollars WITH 30% off

what the fuck

>>9238094
Why do cali-cucks insist on putting so many toppings?

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>>9238144
Ah, and now the mask comes off for all to see. It's like you missed the part where they cited their sources, so you don't have to believe Politifact itself.

>>9238165
We do have a problem about that, and people keep enabling us. I'll admit that I like some of the places that do it.
For examples, you can't talk me out of liking this. I know it isn't pizza, but I don't care:
http://www.zantepizza.com/menu.htm (half and half from the specialties menu)

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>>9238167
From The Atlantic:

If you look only at the first measure—how much the federal government spends per person in each state compared with the amount its citizens pay in federal income taxes—other states stand out, particularly South Carolina: The Palmetto State receives $7.87 back from Washington for every $1 its citizens pay in federal tax. This bar chart, made from WalletHub's data, reveals the sharp discrepancies among states on that measure.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/361668/

Cuckservative red states BTFO!

>>9238220
It's because of all the nigs in those states retard

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>>9238236
>but the escaped slaves
And how do you suppose they got there?

You have no one to blame but yourselves

>>9238280
I don't know mate both my parents immigrated from Poland, I didn't bring em here

Batali's Pizzeria Mozza on Highland Blvd in LA is totally legit.

>>9237995
Joe's in NY, from what I can see on the web, is a basic NY style. Sbarro and Costco pizza probably come close. For anything better, you'd have to hunt around. Gotta ask people in your town.

>>9238145
They have to redistribute the wealth, bro.

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>I went to the beach
>there was sand everywhere
t.OP

>>9238236
>the fact the blue states keep my state solvent is the fault of muh nignogs

LMAO, what a fuckin' cuck you are! Don't you have one of your feet still left to shoot off with your popgun or has it been amputated by the 'beetus?

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>All these posts and nobody suggests Me n Eds
Best chain in California

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>>9237176
Maybe you should look a bit harder. I live in the asshole of Texas and there's a place near me that makes New York style pizza thats better than most of the pizza places I've eaten at in New York.

>>9238094

those peppers look raw as fuck

pass

We got mudsharks.

>>9238576
What's it called?

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>find a passable pizza place in bay area
>$50 a pizza

>>9238798
Where the hell did you find a $50 pizza? I want a name.

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>>9237176
>no good pizza in California
You what, nigga?

(Oh, I have much more, just you wait.)

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>>9238839
breakfast pizza! Fucking delicious. Fuck you haters.

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>>9238844
yaaasss

>>9237176
Go eat some fresh fruit and nuts you fucking ding dong. Pizza is shit tier food.

>>9237176
>>move to california
>>literally no good pizza places
Who would by that story

>>9238091
NYC has shit pizza too

>>9238839
>>9238844
>>9238857
Stop embarrassing yourself california.

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>>9238857
This place does sourdough crust, delicious.

>>9238798
>find a passable pizza place in bay area
>>$50 a pizza
Welcome to real life cities where cheap shit is abound and quality isnt cheap

>>9238108
>>9238087
>I don't understand how GDP is calculated or what import tariffs are
The only reason, literally the sole reason, that GDP "generates" more money than it sucks in (hint: it doesnt in reality) is because of an accounting trick. It's 2/3rd of the west coast, which means pretty much every shitty chink product going to the rest of the country gets sent through it.
Which means most of your money comes from people trying to get shit out of your awful state, not from anything meaningful you actually produce.
Also GDP includes consumed value, not just created, so you dipshits having to import EVERYTHING into your state makes you have a larger value than you actually have.

>>9238864
Quite literally any human being who has lived in california and didn't develop stockholm syndrome

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>>9238875
We even got your deep dish, if you so desire.

>>9238874
Marguerita pizza is so very good here and perfectly well known still fad diet followers from iowa idaho and wherever else want to prove how californian they are now eating apricot goat, cheese pesto pizza

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>>9238888
Get NY style by the slice, if you like.

>>9238892
>still fad diet followers from iowa idaho and wherever else want to prove how californian they are
I live in one of those states and the people who eat that trash here are califaggot transplants.
they're also the reason my city is getting gentrified to shit and why my rent has almost double over the last 4 years.
You fucks are a goddamn disease.

>>9238882
>stockholm
California holds stockton as a city not stockholm my guess it didnt cut muster

>>9238894
Nice cardboard with cheese and oregano

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>>9238894
Another by the slice place

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>>9238901

>>9237176
Rochester NY to LAfag here and Domino's has been my bastion for pizza. It's not terribly shit, it's cheap, and it's the only fucking place that delivers food promptly and not lukewarm. Get the Brooklyn style crust and enjoy.

>>9238879
>importing everything
https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/statistics/
>California's agricultural abundance includes more than 400 commodities. Over a third of the country's vegetables and two-thirds of the country's fruits and nuts are grown in California.
Really makes you think.

>>9238911
With water from your neighbors...

>>9238911
That's like saying I didn't have to import my TV because my state produces more silver than the rest of the country and Canada combined.

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>>9238908
You don't even fucking know......

>>9238896
You sound mad
Plus the pleb overtone is quite appearent
Please leave this board
By prefference id say leave the site as a whole as global whining is a clear shame

>>9238129
It is, good eye

>>9238758
They were fine, pizza was great

>>9238547
They're decent too

>>9238913
Indeed. Thankfully, many counties are getting smarter about water recycling and processing. Sure beats dealing with water rights. Source: I work in a public works department where we're doing this.

>>9237248
Doppio Zero in Mountain View has great Neapolitan style pizza
Patxi in Palo Alto has great Chicago style pizza

>>9237248
I'm in Palo Alto and noticed the same shit pizza. Patxi's is a decent Chicago-style chain, but I don't like Chicago-style pizza. Try Delfina if you're ever up here though--it's decent.

>>9237184
I'm willing to sound like the faggot I am here.

I make pizza dough just about every week because I like making the stuff at home.

Papa Johns has the SHITTIEST dough on earth. Don't know if its overfloured or what but its a pasty dry mess.

The toppings and sauces are okay though.

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>>9238922
Just stay in your own state you piece of shit
New yorkers are just as annoying as you cunts but at least they stay in their rathole, you faggots have to infect everything around you

>move to california
>literally everyone is from somewhere else
Are native Californians just getting cucked out of their state?

>>9238917
I'm sorry that our agriculture ruins your worldview, but it is what it is. We ALSO do plenty of import/export.

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>>9238920
another Chicago style place

>>9238929
>>9238931
I'm in Santa Clara but I'll try those sometime.
>deep dish "pizza"

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>>9238937
Fuck you I travle the states, continent, and globe as such you should stay in your basement instead
FAGGOT

>>9238953
>REEEEEEEEEEE

>>9238943
Delicious gyro pizza

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>>9238967
AUUUUUUUGH I FORGOT THE PIC!!!!!!!!!!

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>>9238947
Being in santa clara try a slice of new york near santanas row on santa clara or jakes pizza near the american kickboxing academy in sunnyvale

>>9238981
Its on san carlos not santa clara /mistake

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>>9238976
and, beside NY style, Chicago style, Indian pizza, Gyro pizza, and everything in between, we also have more traditional pizza places.

People who love to hate on California pizza are just assholes who are biased against California in general.

>>9237176
>move to california

There's your problem right there.

>>9238941
>our agriculture ruins your worldview
I'm saying the fact you make a lot of veggies (while having to import both the labor and water to do so, kek) doesn't make all that other importing vanish.
California has practically no fabrication industry of its own to speak of, and certainly no natural resource mining.

Has anyone made a Chicago Style Hawaiian pizza? Taste would be money.

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>>9239016
Who's importing water, nigger? We get our water for crops from our alpine reservoirs and rivers.
We got flumes, bitch.

>>9239048
>In average water years like 2000, California receives about 200 million acre-feet of water from precipitation and imports from Colorado, Oregon and Mexico
> and imports from Colorado, Oregon and Mexico
http://www.water.ca.gov/swp/watersupply.cfm
California is largely a desert. Your state would collapse in on itself if you weren't importing huge quantities from surrounding areas.

>>9239016
>no fabrication industry of its own to speak of, and certainly no natural resource mining.
You what now? I work in aerospace in NorCal, and there's quite a bit of fabrication industry going on out here. Do you think all of California only makes movies, tech products, and vegetables? You don't know shit. Also, just FYI:
"California is rich in natural resources. The mining industry contributes several billion dollars per year to the state’s economy. In addition, California is the third largest producer of gas and oil in the country. The most important mining industry in California is the cement and sand/gravel industry, which generates over one billion dollars of revenue per year. Many countries and other states do not have the rich sand and gravel deposits that California does, so the state exports these materials as far away as Japan and Australia. Another large mining industry in California are boron-bearing mineral mines in the southern part of the state. Other important resources include gold, tungsten, gypsum, pumice, silver, quartz, diatomite, lime, and talc."

>>9239016
>natural resource mining
>thinks coal can compete in any manner with oil.

The humorous irony is the approval of the Alaska pipeline sounded the death toll of anachronistic coal.

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>>9237176
Go to Topper's Pizza Place. Big tomato for an icon. They're the only pizza joint I miss from my time in California.

>move to a ghetto in one of the largest and most culturally diverse states
>m-muh village only has a couple mexican restaurants and a dominoes

Yeah, California sucks when you're poor.

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LMAO at all these southern hillbilly cucks who are jealous California is the best state. Suck my balls.

>>9239270
y-yummy

>>9238879
>I don't know how GDP is calculated: the post

You realize that goods brought into the port of Los Angeles etc. and passed on to different states aren't counted in CA's GDP right? Imports are subtracted in the classical computation of GDP. Regardless the post you are quoting has little to do with GDP: relative to the federal tax revenue generated by CA, California receives comparatively low federal funding. That's it. Your port theory makes no sense when you consider that South Carolina gets the most federal funding per tax receipts and is on the coast (before you bring up that CA is bigger, it is a normalized figure so state size is irrelevant).

Your other posts just demonstrate your ignorance. For instance there are more people employed in manufacturing in Los Angeles than any other city in the US. There are large automotive, aerospace, tech, etc. plants in California. Even if that wasn't true, manufacturing fetishism isn't grounded in any real economic theory.

>>9237339
I don't know what you're saying. There's ssive joints all over.

>>9237339
There are several slice joints in Berkeley

>>9237479
>>9237484
Thanks anon
I have a weakness for classy ladies.

>>9239016
You couldn't posslibly be more wrong, with each statement you make.

>>9238910
There may be a very clear regional difference in taste. No one in the LA area orders Domino's except as a very last resort.

>>9237438
Ok then, what else should they have?

>>9237176
Isn't there a Wolfgang puck place in Cali?

>>9238094
>Salad dumped on cheesy bread
#JustCaliforniaThings but seriously anywhere that isn't New England is nearly devoid of quality pizza. Just look at all the garbage this dude posted >>9238999 besides the chicago pies. The average quality of a pizza joint is just better in the northeast. The further away you get the more the vision is lost and then all you have left are hacks who serve bar food pizza that you have to be starving drunk to enjoy.

>>9237176
must be tough to have to go this long without deepdish

>>9237210
>>9237479
Nope it's Utako from Hinamatsuri

>>9237176
That's what you get for moving to commiefornia, faggot. Stay cucked whilst I enjoy my easy access to the plethora of good pizza all along the east coast.

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>>9242182

>>9241422
How about a selection of wines that go with the food? You know there are hundreds of varietals vinified in infinite styles? It's like they skimmed a winefolly infographic and took it too literally. Gewurtz + riesling only is as bad as those flyover eye-talian joints that only have PG and chianti. I won't judge if it's some inexpensive joint in Indiatown but if it's got pretensions of fine dining I expect more

Then again that's what's wrong with the michelin guide, they indiscriminately hand out stars to random nonwhite spots without really trying, because they won't hire judges that aren't the boss's nephew and they got a mandate from above to "diversify" even though they don't have a clue how to go about it in the right way

>>9242353
I want to disagree with you because you come off as a fucking faggot, but you're not necessarily wrong.

>>9237176
Honestly over here, especially in the mega cities, most pizza places will be mom and pops or slightly bigger places between the familiar chain places. Some decent stuff was Rusty's parlor, Boss pizza, and Cubbies.

>>9240825
>I don't like knowing my states industry is meaningless entertainment

>>9238913
Not really, the last rain fall help buff us up again, thankfully Jerry isn't backing down from his stand on water and usage.

>>9242465
Creative industries are about $300 billion worth of the CA economy. Given CA's GDP is $2.5 trillion, I don't think that's a fair statement

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>>9237176
What you don't like the kale, pineapple, and wheat grass pizza? You need to be more progressive in your eating habits.

>>9242385
This.
>>9242353
I thought you were going to throw a fit about how they all should stock Lipovina or Muscat Ottonel but turns out youre not a varietal shill.

>>9237456
CPK is so ahh-mazing omg, and Applebee's has the best barbecue too

>>9237248
Lomellis

>>9237193
South American countries with Italians immigrants make better pizzas that the shit you sell there

>>9242385
I want to disagree about me being a huge faggot but you aren't wrong about that

when I go to dinner with a stranger it's a struggle to contain the 'tism so I'm grateful for 4chan where I can be a twat without destroying relationships

>>9239095
Can confirm. I just moved out of SoCal after 26 years and that is the only restaurant I miss.

>>9241486
I've been to new york and boston, they have some great pizza but the top end joints in cali are easily comparable

Average pizza in new york is probably better though

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>>9237176
>Going to california for pizza
That's like going to san francisco for Italian food, or going to New Mexico for Korean food

>>9238933
Can you give me a "simple yet amazing" pizza dough recipe?
I've tried a few random ones from the internet, but they never ended up perfect. Some were too dense, some too airy, some grew too much...
Thanks for any help Mr. Pizza Dough.

>>9243751
>someone's never been to San Francisco

You do realize San Francisco was partially founded by vast groups of Italian immigrants who moved there because of the fishing industry, right. One of the most visited areas in the city is Little Italy.

>>9241486
East coast fathead detected.

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>>9237226
fat slice on Haight? it's gone.

>>9238875
>Old Town Pizza
Holy shit are you in auburn, Anon?
I literally walked past that place two days ago!

>>9243737
Yeah thats what I meant, you can still find good spots they're just fewer and far between than in the northeast.
>>9243783
>tfw from vancouver and currently living in vancouver
I lived near boston for a few years and had plenty of time to visit other states. The average place over there really is just better.

>>9238280
That's the South Carolina flag

>>9244044
go to berkely they still have one I think
isnt there a blondies in SF too? its pretty much the same thing

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>>9238037
>flyover
i love myself some st. louis style

>>9245125
>That's the joke
The picture even explains it.

>>9237343
Treating wine like a commodity is in no way a California thing fucktard.

>>9245340
Where is the crust?

I need to find a good burger and a good pizza place in virginia beach

>>9245340
st louis style is the most disgusting kind of pizza i have ever eaten. provel "cheese" is a crime against humanity

>>9237176
If it should be any condolence, for some weird reason italian pizza seems to stay in Italy even in Europe (The ingredients are available).
You have italian run pizzerias everywhere, but not one of them makes pizzas like in Italy.

>>9237248
escape from new york pizza
zachary's

these might j be in sf/oakland but they're the best

>>9238865
how's your tomato and cheese casserole treating you?

>>9238781
Stefanos in Harlingen Texas. From what I've heard theres an even better place in town but never ate there and don't know the name. I think the place is run by Mexicans and shit but they are good at what they do. Don't know if the quality is still the same because I haven't eaten there in like a year.

>>9237305
I always loved Bravo's. They have alright meatball subs.

Is Pizza My Heart still around? I moved away when I was, like, 14, but I remember that place as having some of the best pizza I've ever had.g

>>9237305
Senore's at 19th&taravel makes a great slice

>>9237360
Um, Greece

>>9237176
>move to japan
>no pizza

>>9247327
the crust is cracker-like but also soft
>>9247340
i grew up around it so i never thought twice about it, much like everyone else who eats it. provel cheese really is delicious if youre not a stuck-up food elitist.

>>9237176

Just order pizza hut, a large two topping pizza with parmesan crust you dumbass

>>9238947
I live in sunnyvale and there's this pizza place called giovanni's pizza off of Lawrence expressway that's really good.

Go there. Like. Now.

>>9237176
>>move to california
well theres your problem

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>>9247318
People from the western parts of flyover land have weird ideas about wine because of California

California in general has a lot of weird ideas about wine

Pizza 900: shit or good?