>Umami

It's the best option available. Using "savory" as a noun is stupid, and "savoriness" is kinda clumsy to say.

>>9185738
SAGE.

>>9185744
why

you can use "sweet" as a noun and it works just the same

you can noun anything you want to really

>>9185744
No

how else to describe gyokuro
checkmate faggot

savoury: having a taste that is salty not sweet

umami: a taste found in some foods that is neither sweet, sour, bitter nor

>>9185836
>nor
salty

>>9185836
Nor what

>>9185807
NO YOU CANT

THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF RULES THAT DICTATE EVERY STEP IN OUR LIVES

oooh mommy!

>>9185842
see
>>9185839

>>9185836
So air is umami?

>>9185738
I use "MSG flavor" myself.
It's practically the same thing.

>>9185836
i never really understood umami desu

i can create umami in any dish with the right amount of salt and pepper

>>9185847
No, it is still a distinct flavorful component, generally found in seafood.

>Generally, umami taste is common to foods that contain high levels of L-glutamate, IMP and GMP, most notably in fish, shellfish, cured meats, mushrooms, vegetables (e.g., ripe tomatoes, Chinese cabbage, spinach, celery, etc.) or green tea, and fermented and aged products involving bacterial or yeast cultures, such as cheeses, shrimp pastes, fish sauce, soy sauce, nutritional yeast, and yeast extracts such as Vegemite and Marmite.

>>9185807
Sweetness and Umami are two completely different things.

>Why call it Umami?
Because the Japanese named it first.

>>9185858

that's not true

>>9185855
That's even more fedoracore than umami

>>9185836
Savory isn't the same thing as salty.

>A loanword from the Japanese (うま味), umami can be translated as "pleasant savory taste".[6] This neologism was coined in 1908 by Japanese chemist Kikunae Ikeda from a nominalization of umai (うまい) "delicious". The compound 旨味 (with mi (味) "taste") is used for a more general sense of a food as delicious.

So umami basically means delicious and savory. Most people already take savory to mean pleasant-tasting.

Umami as a word was created in 1908. Savory was used as early as 1200. They both basically mean the same thing. I think people started using "umami" to describe their food because it made it sound more interesting and exotic.

>>9185744
Why would you use it as a noun? We don't use sour as a noun.

>>9186013
would you like a whiskey sour?

>>9186023
wouldn't sour be an adjective there though

it's basically the same thing as saying a sour whiskey

>>9186023
A sour that has the attributes of a whiske?