What's the best scotch? It your favourite at least.

They all taste shit. Drink American.

>>9108874
Everybody in this board and in real life makes fun of me for drinking Chivas Regal....I don't care, it's cheap and I enjoy it...

Black Bottle is good.

>>9108874
My brother brought me some Talisker back from Scotland that I really enjoyed.

for me, any single malt sherry oak.

GOAT: Macallan 18, but breaks the bank.
Usual go-to: Macallan 12.
Honourable mentions: Glenmorangie

Can enjoy a lot of others like Glenfiddich and Glenlevit

Only decent blended I've had is Dimple Pinch.

Red and Black label a shit

>>9108874
I really enjoyed the 18 year Laphroaig, it's by and far the best I've had. Worth having around for special occasions, imo.

>>9108961
Good for you, man. You drink what ever the fuck you want.

I enjoy black label with Canada dry.

>>9109034
Glenmorangie is possibly the easiest/smoothest widely available scotch and cannot hurt even if you buy it as a gift for a non-whisky drinker.

>>9108874
I'll tell you my experience with the few I've tried:

>Macallan 10 yr
Smoky, balanced, probably a good place to start if a little hot.
>Laphroaig 10 yr
A lot of the memers on this website will recommend this one but I don't think you should start here. It's very strongly flavored of wood and peat moss. I've given it to people and they've described it as like burning tires, even some of the official tasting notes say things like "a new box of band-aids" That said sometimes it's just exactly what you want, if you decide you like scotch pick up a bottle.
>Lagavulin 16 yr
Expensive and well the fuck worth it. Similar earthy and woody flavors to the above two, but miles more smooth.

If you want to get into Irish whiskeys they're also great
>Redbreast 12
Shockingly drinkable and mellow
>The Quiet Man 8
Pony up the extra couple of bucks for the single malt and you'll have a pleasant smoky drink, a little hotter than the Redbreast but still great straight.

Hope this helped.

Not blends

I've been in Islay recently on a holiday. My new favourite distillery might be Bunnahabhain. They're great.

My overall favourite as if right now is the Lagavulin 16 though. It's Diageo, but it's fucking good.

>>9109234
>Irish """""whisky"""""
>Good

>>9108874
I almost always go for Laphroaig 10 or Laphroaig QC

I like them more than everything else I've tried, even some much older whiskys

>>9108961
The older ones are pretty good.

I like glenfiddich 12 year for something nice but not too nice that I don't want to drink the shit.

>>9111150
Go to 15 and its not to much more but its really good for price

>>9110925
I find Laphroaig is too obvious. It doesn't have the subtlety of other Islays.

>>9109425
What do you consider good?

For me, it's Bushmills

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>>9108874
is this good?

>>9111203
Its not scotch but in all seriousness, for like 12 bucks its actually not that bad. Its actually drinkable straight but you should probably just mix it with something.

>>9111232
There are some subtle and great Islays. Really it's only Ardbeg, Laphroaig, and the Bruichladdich Octomore which I feel are overpowered by peat.

Lagavulin and Kilchoman have great notes to go along with the peat, as does the Bunnahabhain peated.

I think my least favourite from that area is Jura though. It's smooth but it has no flavour.

>>9111232
>Implying all Islays are pleb tier

The only pleb here is you.

American>Irish>Scotch

The only one worse than scotch is Canadian.

>>9108961
You know what, regular old Chivas is pretty good. It has a certain oceany character that's hard to find in a lot of single malts. Old Pulteney and Oban 14 comes close, but Chivas has something in its flavor profile that I haven't found in any other whisky so far.

Also IMO it's a bit better than its rival JW Black, which IMO is very one-dimensional in its sweetness/smokiness.

>>9112466
Old Pulteney is probably my least favourite sing!e malt.

Islay taste like swamp water and burning ghettos and I love it. But I also hate myself so that's probably a factor.

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My Aunt bought me a bottle of 1999 Distiller's Edition. I will never taste anything better on this planet.

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Longmorn 16 yr

>>9111285
Not the anon you replied to but thanks for the suggestions. Laphroig is my favorite Islay and I've wanted to branch out for a little while.

>>9114736
I'd say try the Lagavulin first. There's a reason people say it's great.

Really though try as many as you can. The only one I really don't recommend is the Ardbeg. It's way too peaty, and the rest of the flavours are too light.

Scotch tastes like smoky shit

American is sweet at least and doesn't make me want to kill myself when I drink it.

>>911120
It's pretty good! It's cheap, any place carries it, and you can get it in any size.

>>9111203
Good shit. Still better than the much of the 30-50$ stuff in my opinion.

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>>9111203
Get this, it's much better

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My new collection.

>Thread about Scotch
>Yanks start posting their trash tier cheap corn based drain cleaner

>>9112466
>Also IMO it's a bit better than its rival JW Black, which IMO is very one-dimensional in its sweetness/smokiness.Anonymous

Yeah, I've always that JW Red and Black were garbage tier as far as quality. Platinum and Blue are actually good as far as quality, but wayyyyyyyy over priced. Much better scothes for 1/4th the price

>>9115649
I personally don't see why you'd drink a blend over a single malt. The cost of a good blend is about as much as a single malt, so why not just buy one of those? They've got much more character.

>>9114803

Ardbeg is peaty, but I think it's the peppery flavour that makes people think its too peaty. It's like any pepper, it enhances whatever is there.

>>9115623

Never seen a Talisker bottle like that. Nice collection btw. Lagavulin is aged in old sherry casks.

>>9108874
>What's the best scotch?
butterscotch

>>9115658
Because I only drink scotch that cost less than 25 bucks a bottle and haven't been able to find a cheap single malt that I like...

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>>9109234
>macallan
>smoky
cmon kiddd
>laga
>expensive

The nicest ones I've had recently have the fino sherry Arran, a single sherry cask caol isla, and the black art from bruichladdich. The last of these has me completely dumbstruck and blows pretty much any malt I've had out of the water w/r/t depth of taste.
>>9110925
the quarter cask and triple wood Laph are gr8
Had a wee dram of an ancient port ellen whisky a few years back; was what caused me to fall in love with scotch and I realised I'd never have anything quite as pleasing in my glass again

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>>9115665
The talisker is one that I found in my Dad's house. He doesn't really drink whisky, so it's been around for ages apparently. It's a distillers edition bottled in 2007 (14 year).

Also, I love sherry cask whisky. All of the ones I like the most are full sherry, or at least use a lot of sherry in the marriage.

I just got back from a trip to Islay, which is where I bought most of the bottles. I also did six distillery tours, which is pretty good because you develop more of an understanding of why different brands can taste so different.

>>9115775
Drink half as fast and buy a bottle that's double the price.

>>9116365
I drink to get drunk you faggot nu-male

>>9116381
>Nu-male
>For appreciating the experience of getting drunk instead of just the result

If you want to get wasted drink cheap vodka. There's no point in drinking Scotch for the sake of getting drunk.

>>9108961
Chivas Regal is one of the better cheap scotchs.

I really like Oban and BenRiach. I recently bought three Talisker and a Yamazaki. I look forward to those two.

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Quite a nice cheap one.

>>9116644
What's a good Speyside then?

Can't go wrong with Laphroaig. Try to get their Cask Strength bottlings.

>>9117329
I don't like the Laphroaig cask strength. It's too strong, you can't enjoy it properly because of the alcohol.

I actually think Laphroaig is one of the worst Islays.

>>9115828
>>laga
>>expensive
It's significantly more expensive than everything else in my post and definitely more expensive than normies are used to buying bottles. But I know you're an internet cool kid that doesn't touch a bottle less than 500 bucks so I'll let you on your way.
Another tripfag into the filter.

>>9117346
It's not expensive

Hakushu 12

>>9117346

Lagavulin is the cheapest best booze you'll ever buy in your life. Compared to johnnie walker blue, it's free. People don't have a fucking clue how to price shit.

>>9108874
What's a "good," bottle of scotch that can be had for around twenty-five doll hairs? I know bourbon to have a few answers to that question, but scotch just seems a little pricier. Anything good at that price point?

>>9118900

Bourbon is dogfood. Don't talk about bourbon in a scotch thread.

>>9118905
Dogs can drink bourbon? I guess that poker picture was pretty accurate.

On an actual note, your pretentiousness impresses no one. All alcohols have their own nuances.

>>9118915

Bourbon tastes like corn swill and everything else relies on barley being baked in an old stone house. It's up to you what you drink.

Sorry, I meant malted barley

>>9118915

It's not pretentious to have a tongue.

>>9118924
You're entitled to your opinion. No matter how stupid it may be.

Cheers!

>>9118931

Go do some reading, after that you'll be fine.

>>9118935
About putting on airs?

Scotch is good. Bourbon is good. Rum, brandy, gin, tequila and all other numbers of alcohol are good.

The question was asking about enjoyable scotch at around the $25 price point, because bourbon can be found nicely for around that, albeit as everyone should infer, not the pique example of their class.

>>9118931

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xXo_la8nbM

>>9118950

I can't buy a good single malt for less than $160. Honestly I don't give a shit at all. but keep on keeping on with your shit.

>>9118958
Will do, lord of the 4chan.

>>9118961

Do you know what fores, heads, hearts and tails are? Do you know what a continuous still is? Do you know a fucking thing about booze?

>>9118967
I've distilled my own booze, know that the start is full of methanol shouldn't be drank, and know that the booze concentration tends to fade the longer into the batch.

The fuck does this have to do with a steeped traditional process of barrel-aged whisky? Are you just jerking off over your supposed superiority to the unwashed masses?

>>9118982

Actually methanol is very rare in any wash. It requires fruit pectin to develop, so unless your entire wine is made from fruit you're being suckered by propaganda. The first 8% can be tossed if you're a paranoid dipshit. The rest is ethanol, ether acetate and flavour esters.

>>9118982

115L of water
30Kg Sugar
1326ml tomato paste (8.5cans)
5tsp Citric Acid
380g Yeast
1 tsp Epsom salt
2 campden tablets in water

I make two of those per session. No fucking methanol but I do toss the first 150ml per.

>>9118986
That's actually pretty interesting to know some of the disputed science about stilling. Usually just went by rule of thumb due to advice of letting the first runoffs be throw-away. Thanks.

>>9118993
Tomato paste? Does it still retain the raw flavor esters?

Leads me also to ask about the citric acid, epsom salt, and campden, because my main mashes have been water and different kinds of sugar.

>>9118996

most people were poisoned by denatured alcohol in the 20s. Not methanol. You need a lot of sweet sugary garbage to create enough methanol to blind you. Think about wine. It has more methanol than any booze at its concentration.

>>9119002

not at all. Yeast attenuation is the factor you need to watch. You want your yeast to eat your sugar and create ethanol. Yeast dies in alcohol, that's yeast attenuation. You build a soup that makes your yeast happy and it dies when your sugar is used. That is what that ratio creates. 13%ish low wines in 5 days.

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>>9119002

This is the shit you end up with and it matters how much you stress your yeast. Those turbo yeasts taste like human filth.

Sorry, I keep forgetting you aren't distillers.

>>9119002

pH is key. You need your yeast not to shock out and die. Theres a few things that matter greatly to yeast. Osmotic stress is the worst. You need food, a livable environment(pH) and water up the ass.

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>>9119002

This is what my mash ends up looking like 1 hour into pitching it. It finishes to .990 in 5 days.

>>9118915
>Nuances

Not really nuances when it's just corn.

>>9118900
None at that price point. You're looking at at least £35 for a bottle of single malt that's half decent.

>>9119051

Do you know what an enzyme is? And that it's required before corn can be used in anything at all?

>>9118958
There are plenty of good single malts for way less than that. Non age statement bottlings can be nicer than age statement ones, and cheaper.

>>9119054
That's fine, even with your squiggly dollar symbols, any suggestions?

You guys really don't know anything or talk about anything real. Why are you here?

>>9108874
Whiskey is disgusting

>>9108874
>They all taste shit. Drink American.
Nah

>>9119064
https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/2544/glen-moray-12-year-old

The glen moray 12 was my first whisky. I think it tastes really good, and it's not too harsh like some can be. It's also cheaper than I thought at £29.

Not sure about getting it in burger land though.

>>9119119
You haven't had good whisky then.

Are there any good whisky websites?

>>9119128
You think that isn't the exact response everyone gives when I tell them that? I've had about a dozen brands of whiskey that whoever at the time recommends to me, and it's always disgusting

>>9119170
Have you had single malt scotch or just American swill?

Lagavulin

>>9119170

Bourbon is a mouth rapist, but scotch is a specific type of god. Don't drink feces.

>>9119338
I don't even understand what you're saying here

>>9119386

Hoboken chiclet nipples.

I prefer bourbon 2bh

Love Dalwhinnie 15, but its probably not the best. Just one I really like.
But enjoy most good whiskies.

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>>9112439
Excuse me, have you not tried any west african whiskey?

>>9119790
Looks great

damn you alchoholics, get off my board

>>9119790
How aged is it?

>>9118865
Yama 12 is better

>>9118865
>>9120640
What are Jap whiskies like?

Pete based scotches, or normal stuff?

pls anon, this is an important specification.

>>9116644
i had this on offer in tescos for 20 quid...............was damn good for the price and no age cert

>>9120783
>Pete

Ah yes, the known master distiller Pete Smoke.

I like Johnnie walker

>>9120756
Very similar to high quality Scotch, from my limited experience.

>>9120756
>>9121204
I recently tried Nikka Coffey Malt Whisky and honestly found it very overpriced. It wasn't bad, but the hype and dollar tag was a lie.

>>9121204
I just don't see how the japs would have any real quality given that they're new to it all

>>9122853
lol

>>9122857
They've no heritage.

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Anyone tried Indian whisky?

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when I can afford it

>>9122944
Glenfiddich isn't that expensive

>>9122868
too much fecal matter

>>9122868
Label should have more poorunes to get that
>E X O T I C A E S T H E T I C

>>9123224
I actually agree. I don't know why they don't emphasise that they're unique with the bottle style.

Put it in old colonial style bottles or something.

>>9123185
Kek

On a different note, what's the worst whisky?

>>9122868
I had the Fusion one, now I can't find it and am sadly disappointed, it was fucking delicious

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>>9123394
They are apparently trying to go the opposite way and show that they are actually similar to scotch whiskys and signal familiarity. Not sure which would be the most efficient marketing move, but playing the exotic card would be the most entertaining. Like that one japanese whisky that has a samurai helmet covering its bottleneck.
Funnily enough, that's what cheap indian whiskys do in the opposite direction.
They try to overplay their "britishness" despite being made in India and mostly just sold in India because they are not up to quality and sanitary standards for export into Europe or North America.

>>9123730
I personally think that marketing would better show origins 2bh

Whisky tastes horrible

>>9123536
black booster obviously.

seriously speaking I personally disliked Dewar's out of all the whiskeys I've tried, but I'm no expert

>>9125499
Go back to the /sip/ thread, douchebag.

>>9125681
Sip is objectively better

>>9108874
If I had to pick one forever: Glenfiddich 18


Runner up: Talisker

>>9125833
Talisker tastes cheap

>>9119790
I wonder what it tastes like

>>9115623
Nice, but put them in boxes or a closed cupboard or something. UV is a powerful thing

>>9128590
I'm pretty safe actually. There's no direct sunlight in my room, and they're shaded all the time.

I like having them on show anyway.

>>9123163
18 is like 70 quid. While not ridiculous it's a little more than I'd think most would want to spend regularly on a bottle

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>22
>Figure I should "refine" my pallet to stomach stuff besides vsop brandy and gin and tonic at this point
>Hey, single malt scotch is pretty good from what I've been told
>Just grab whatever bottle I find at my local ABC
>Laphroaig, 10 yr.
>It's like someone rubbed their asshole against a car battery and forced you to lick it
>Read the outside of the box
>"Haha yeah, woah dude, it's like french kissing a mermaid that has BBQ on her lips"

Judging by all the posts in this thread, I made a very wrong choice starting off with this kind of Scotch. What would you guys recommend instead?

>>9129550
>light beer
>ipas
>mixed drinks
>bourbon on the rocks
>gin on the rocks
>scotch with a tea spoon of cold water
that was my order

>>9115828
caol Isla was fucking lovely.
quarter cask is probably the best readily available scotch.

>>9129550
yeah, you jumped into the deep end one that one. Laphroaig is a peated Islay (region) scotch. That style is pretty polarizing. Either you love it or you describe it as licking anus battery.You'd do better to start off with something sweet. You'll find any of these much more approachable:

Monkey Shoulder (blended malt)
Balvenie 12 Doublewood
Glenfiddich 12
Glenlivet 12
Johnnie Walker Black (blend)
Macallan 10 or 12

>>9129550
Look for whiskies that are unpeated and smooth. As you build up your palate you'll start to appreciate the stronger flavours,

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>>9108874
Fuck scotch, give me a good rum over it any day

>>9122944
I was given a bottle of this exact whiskey as a gift....

I don't know much about whisky desu

Is it really a premium whisky worth breaking out on big occasions or is it actually pretty pleb and only pretending to be top shelf, kinda like grey goose vodka pretending to be elite.....?

>>9131016
I've always found rum too sickly.

>>9131032
An 18 year old is good. Anything over 15 years is pretty high end.

https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/2093/glenfiddich-18-year-old

If you want to know how premium a whisky is just find out what places are charging for it. It's a cynical way to work it out but it's a good indication.

>>9109234
Cask strength redbreast is pretty good too.

Do people actually legitimately like cask strength?

I don't think I've ever had one which I've actually enjoyed, they're usually too strong to get the real favours.

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I'm a scotch pleb because I live in Canuckistan and can't find a bottle of upper shelf scotch for under 80 dollars but I like to drink this neat or with ice

>>9131131
He did say good rum, he should have said aged rum, it loses that disgusting sickly sweetness and starts getting some quite nice flavours.

>>9131131
That's because you're buying the cheap(er) stuff that's really meant for mixing drinks

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Father in law got me this, haven't had a good opportunity to open it yet

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>>9131131
My dude, you just haven't had a good rhum.
Which is understandable since rhum is so often just seen as a cocktail drink to make your mojito or cuba libre and proper rhum isn't found everywhere.

>>9115828
Nice to have someone mention Caol Isla. I feel like no one has ever heard of it. Everytime I bring it up I just a blank face from people. It's fuckin great whisky.

>>9131211
>look guys I spell rum with an h in regular use
Why don't you go ahead and capitalise it too you monumental bellend

>>9131220
wat
rhum doesn't have an "h" in english?
or is it like colour and color?

>>9131213
My only problem with Caol Ila is that the distillery itself is a blend behemoth. They make 6.5m litres a year, compare that to somewhere like Laphroaig who make 2.6m.

Caol Ila is nice, yes, but the sheer quantity they make cheapens it for me. I know it's maybe silly to like a drink for it being a smaller scale enterprise, but Caol Ila just feels like it's lacking something special.

>>9131227
Rum is rum. There's isn't some whisky/whiskey thing. It's just rum.

>>9131132
Ok thank you

>>9131132
Oh, and seeing as you know so much about this....how long can I age this bottle for? (unopened of course)

Seeing as I don't really drink whisky I reckon I could leave it another 30 years until it's 50 years old then crack it open.... or is it not supposed to be aged like that?

>>9131418
Whisky doesn't age in the bottle. Whisky ages in the cask. As soon as it is bottled the value barely changes. You'll get more for a thirty year old bottle, but the value of the whisky doesn't change.

>>9131418
Doing a bit of research I've found this as an example of price changing:

Bowmore 12 (£38): https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/5747/bowmore-12-year-old

Bowmore 12 bottled in 1990 (£175): https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/34099/bowmore-12-year-old-bot1990s

Bowmore 25 year old (£299): https://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/p/6297/bowmore-25-year-old

So in other words, the value will increase due to age and rarity, but the actual value of the whisky itself doesn't change once it's out of the cask.

Glengoyne 21 y/o or go home

>>9120756
I've only tried the yamazaki nas and it was so very smooth, a bit fruity, maybe it was just that one in particular but it didn't remind me of scotch that much, it wasn't nearly as salty as the decent scotches I've tried (chivas regal, oban, a couple more I can't remember) and it was less complex, it only seemed to had one taste and one light aftertaste, while the oban was stronger and smokey and seawater-like salty (not that salty but the taste reminds me of seawater)
overall very good but not that much high quality I'd say
I'd like to try out the yamazaki 12y/o but I'm finding it hard to justify the price considering what can be had for half

>>9108874
I really like Islay whisky, my go to is normally Lagavulin 16 (£40 in Costco thank fuck) or Ardbeg 10.

Best I have ever had was Ardbeg Corryvreckan which I impulsively bought in a bar once. It was incredible, but to be fair I was a few pints in at this point so my judgement may have been clouded. Been meaning to buy a bottle for a while now actually.

>>9120756
Perfectly good, quite similar to Scottish whisky unlike bourbon which is very obviously a different drink. However it is way, way overpriced for what it is. We can thank that prick Jim Murray for that after he was fawning over it, prices practically doubled overnight.

>>9122944
Try the 15, it is a lot cheaper and quite a few people actually prefer it to the 18

>>9108874
one that you like drinking and can afford to keep drinking.

>>9131662
I didn't like the ardbeg 10 at all. It felt like it was full peat without anything to back it up, the rest of the whisky flavour was so light it might as well not have been there.

I like the Lagavulin 16 as well, because I find that it has a decent bit of backing to it to go along with the peat, the whisky flavour is very rich and isn't overpowered by peat smoke.

Sweet>peat

Come at me

>>9132032
It's ok to have poor taste

>>9132032

Just drink brandy, bro. They have all the same flavours of Macallan. VSOP for the win. I have an Asbach Uralt that will taste more like a scotch than a shitty Macallan.

>>9132336
What about cognac?