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Welcome to coffee general. Where the roasts are rich and paired perfectly with shitposts.
>Topics for the thread:
what's better, the grinder or the filter?

Do you make espresso? Manual or automatic? Preference?

I'm still waiting to be redpilled on moka pot. What makes it different from other immersion styles?
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>>9017616
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>>9008864
Beans from Fresh Roasted Memes LLC on Amazon came today. If they're not lying about using the Julian calendar as their roast date, they were roasted the day they shipped out (June 2nd). Haven't tried them yet because I still have 150g of local beans to finish. Soon™
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>>9017669
Fug that looks good anon
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I've been making my normal cup with just a spoon of sweetened condensed milk, so good
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>>9017669
Chiapanecan coffee is the best coffee in the world.

Rest are bad memes
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>>9017674
I figured I'd try something between the usually-stale grocery store brands for $6-8/bag and $17/lb local roasted stuff.

>>9017722
That's what I'm hoping as I've never had it. I love everything else from Central America, though. Haven't really seen this mentioned a whole lot, to be honest. Everyone currently loves to fucking jizz all over African stuff.
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>>9017734
That's some bad luck. I can usually find locally roasted at $12-15 a pound.

So kind of a coffee newbie - how big a difference does the grinder make? I just run my beans in a spice grinder before I make it.
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>>9017616
500
0
0
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I'd like to buy a Hario v60 but I can't decide between the original style or decanter. Has anyone here used the latter?
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>>9017616
>coffee
it's called survival juice
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You know, I used to be one of those faggots that made fun of people that were super autistic about craft beer. Then I got into craft beer and understood what they were talking about.

Same with bourbon. Same with cigars.

But coffee....I am sorry...you're just a fucking loser if you pretend to actually nitpick the nuances of a burned jungle bean.
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>>9017744
>how big a difference does the grinder make?
Huge. I started out with a Skerton and just got a LIDO 3. The difference, using my same brew methods/techniques, is fantastic. I couldn't imagine using a whirly blade.

If you're using an immersion method like french press, you're still probably getting decent coffee, but if you upgraded to a burr grinder, you would definitely have a marked improvement.
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>>9017734
Listen to me and listen to me very well

African and Asian coffee is good, but there is no comparison.

The only thing that might pose a challenge to AUTHENTIC Chiapanecan coffee is kopi luwak and that's only if you can tolerate the fact that it is literally shit coffee

i'll never forget my first cup of coffee in Tuxtla Gutierrez, it was a little, hidden coffee joint

i wanna go back someday
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>>9017767
You've never had good coffee, m8.
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>>9017744
>how big a difference does the grinder make?
Get anything above $500. Otherwise you are poor pleb that should not even look at the coffee beans or use some cheap (under $500) coffee grinder.
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>>9017767
i'm at a loss of words...
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>>9017771
I went from a burr grinder to a blade grinder, and the blade isn't appreciably different if you just pause midgrind and shake up the beans a bit.
>inb4 you defend your excessively expensive grinder
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>>9017722
Disagree, it's terrible saw dust, WALMART level.
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>>9017774
>literally shit
your post is
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>>9018118
Are you doing pourover
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>tfw my mini mill broke
>tfw living with instant coffee for probably a couple of days

It's the first morning and I already want to die. I also just bought a nice Brazilian bean that I want to try.
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>>9018118
>he doesn't think grind matters
o I am laffin
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I've been drinking coffee for most of my life but I think it's causing problems with my blood pressure, I've been cutting back a bit and might consider cutting it out entirely.

No point drinking decaf, may as well drink hot chocolate.
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>>9018118
I got a blade grinder by mistake and every time I use it half the grind is dust and the other half is huge chunks, even if you pause and shake
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>>9018118
I regret getting a blade grinder over a burr grinder every day. No matter how much I try to pause and shake, there's always giant rocks in my grind
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>>9019096
>I think

Don't go visit a doctor or anything.
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>>9019111
This
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>>9019148
I did go visit a doctor.
I was just after a certificate for work and when he did the blood pressure test it was pretty high reading, he did the test a few times to make sure and it kept coming up the same.
I had just had a couple of cups of coffee so I think it might have thrown the reading off a bit.
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>>9019163
>he did the test a few times to make sure and it kept coming up the same.
It usually does especially if they don't switch arms or wait for you to recover from your anxiety of getting to the office, sitting down and then quickly walking in, getting questioned, getting weighed etc. Walk into CVS and get it done again, or buy a cheapie home monitor. It could have been a bag of pretzels the night before, etc.
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>>9019170
They made me laugh down on a bed for a while and relax before trying the last time.
I had pretty bad back pain at the time so you're right it could be any number of things stressing me out while in the doctors office.

I should probably book in for a proper checkup, I only go to the doctor when I need certificates for work.
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>>9019191
*Lay down on a bed
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Fuck, I got some shitty beans from a colleague which bought to me because I like coffee.

What should I do with them? They are burnt as fuck. Will cold brew make them drinkable?
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>>9020113
Cold brew is too strong you'll taste all the badly roasted parts of it. Just toss it i would say. If you really want to drink it because it was a gift, I would recommend making whatever you want with it but masking it with sugar and cream. Not really much you can do unfortunately
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>>9020145

I don't give a single shit about it, I rather die than drink this shit again. I was just wondering if there was any alternative other than throwing it away.

I'll try to use it to make cappuccino and other stuff that I can mask it.
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>>9020167
>I rather die than drink this shit again
Fuckin trash it
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Someone recommend me a blueberry-y coffee. Brewing using an aeropress.
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>tfw stopped drinking coffee because i'm too lazy to maintain an addiction

Same reason I stopped smoking. It's just another job at some point.
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>>9017616
link to some cheap good bulk coffee on amazon or something?
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>>9020468
Order some and tell us
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I was reading through my old notebooks and found a conversation from my classmates I transcribed a few years ago and had a question:

>Classmate was at coffeeshop getting an iced coffee
>Barista asks if they want their ice on the top or the bottom
>What.
>Do you want your ice on the top or the bottom?
>Classmate says it doesn't matter since if you put the ice on the bottom, it'll just float up to the top.
>Receives iced coffee
>Goes back in a week later, talks to different barista about the previous barista
>Hahah, that's so dumb. If you put the ice on the bottom, it won't even cool the coffee.

Does this shit make any sense to coffeefags? The second one is obviously full retard, but I think I can understand why the first barista may have asked that—if they add ice first (at the bottom) they may bias the ice:coffee ratio in favour of the ice, meaning a more watery coffee; if they do it last (at the top) they may bias it in favour of coffee and you'll get more actual coffee. Is that an accurate assessment or am I missing something?
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>>9020938
Ice on the top or bottom is just a buffer baristas use sometimes to make sure the drunk is made right. Like if you order a chocolate latte they ask if you want whip cream or not. It's just to make sure you are both on the same page about what you've ordered. It's a coffee shop thing. In a way it is either saying you want the ice or the coffee first. Why it matters is beyond me but some people are picky about it. It's the same with ice coffee again and cream. Some times people want the cream on bottom, some want it on top. It makes virtually no difference but it is what it is.
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>>9017767

> I used to be one of those faggots that made fun of people that were super autistic about craft beer.

It sounds like you are actually the autistic one. The friends I have that talk like you don't have any other friends besides me(I have a high social retardation tolerance), because they are poorly socialized and immediately insult and simplify what they don't understand while thinking they're smarter than the other person that does understand.
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>>9020938
it makes a difference in a homesetting
>pourover onto ice, comes out clean,crisp,and icecold
>ice into the pourover once it is brewed, more bitterness/stale taste

thats probably true for all coffeebrewing, not sure if it matters for shitty coffeeshop stuff though
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>>9021012
>>9021055
Alright, I see where you're coming from. Enjoy good sips and smooth grinds.
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>>9020468
>link to some cheap good bulk coffee on amazon or something?
>or something?
How about bag of dicks
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Robusta is perfect to sip on while shitposting
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Survival juice
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>Meant to adjust grinder to finer
>Turned in wrong direction
>Espresso is watery and sour
>Wet grounded beans all over brewing head
I need a cup of good coffee now.
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Is it worth moding my Mini Mill?
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>>9022879
Are you talking about the tape or rubber band? It costs nothing, why wouldn't you just try it
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>>9022846
why wouldn't you just fix the grinder and run the grounds through again, do you take pride in committing to your mistakes or something
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>>9023438
He brewed the coffee before realizing his mistake, ya goober
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>>9023438
No, I just only realized my error when the water ran through way too fast, so it was already too late.
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>>9023541
fair play, my b
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So I was at an Asian market getting some Indonesian sauces when I found some Mr. Brown coffee. I mean I mostly ever just drank shit from k-cups and switched to drinking black coffee concentrate because it was faster, so I don't know shit about coffee. But holy fuck this combination is the best thing I've ever tasted and it has inspired me to learn more about coffee. What's baby's first cappuccino? I mean if I liked this combo so much then it could be a nice investment to learn how to make cappuccinos and ice them myself.
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>>9023588
>Sometimes I drink the Mr. Brown macadamia nut coffee, tastes pretty good if I'm in the mood for something sweet. Mr. Brown was part of the whole Chinese tainted milk shit though lol so enjoy ur melamine I guess.

10/10 can aesthetics too
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>>9023621
I guess that gives me even more reason to learn how to make my own cappuccino.
Anyone know a good bean to use specifically, or does anything work?
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>>9023588
Espresso is going to start at around $800. $400 for a gaggia machine and $400 for an espresso capable grinder
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>>9023625
you won't get a proper cappuccino without an espresso machine

your best bet for a ghetto cappuccino is using an aeropress and steaming your own milk
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>>9023628
yikes
>>9023633
This doesn't look too bad or hard from a video I saw and I'm sure my plebeian tongue won't tell a difference, so thank you.
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>>9023641
the steamed milk is essential though, so make sure you've got the means for it
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>>9023644
I haven't looked anything up yet, but wouldn't I just put a cup or so of whole fat milk into a frothing pitcher and boil?
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>>9023645
that'd do the job, sure
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You can make espresso drinks with instant coffee just by adding less water, it tastes practically the same as any sub $1000 home espresso machine anyway.
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>>9023674
Jesus Christ
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>>9017616
jesus... ok...

>grinder vs. filter
I don't know if I understand this question. Are you talking espresso/turkish vs. drip? Depends on what's going on. Paper filters -being absorbent- are detrimental to coffee, but copper, stainless, and even plastic mesh is perfectly fine for drip. I prefer to do my coffee as a shot or small drink, so I prefer espresso, but on days where I want a coffee to last me until noon, a moderately sized carafe is really the only way to do it.

>Espresso, manual/auto
I have a semi-auto espresso machine right now. It's kind of neat - the boiler pressure when built up will eventually drop the lever on its own, but it's a very strong brew at that point. A properly calibrated automatic is every bit as good as a well executed manual shot, just not as tactile. No real preference.

>Moka pot
Like a heat activated aeropress... water boils through the coffee. The end result is milder than espresso but stronger than auto drip. If you want to be able to do stovetop coffee to the nth degree of strength, I recommend a proper percolator - very similar idea to the moka pot, but it allows the water to cycle back and forth.
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>>9023674
High concentration instant coffee is vile stuff that only a hardened late-stage caffeine addict can tolerate.
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>>9023737
You're watering it down with milk anyway.
Don't tell me you're one of those fedoralords who actually drinks 3 shots of espresso by itself.
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>>9023770
Have you ever even had plain espresso? It's pretty nice.
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Just got my MoccaMaster, bretty good. Hopefully it does the pre-infusion thing as advertised.

$200 for the KBTS741

Any decent mass-market filter coffee i should go for? was just thinking Folgers will work.
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>>9023847
This looks like an overengineered drip machine, which is itself a mechanical pourover.

What makes it worth $200?
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>>9021012
What happens if you order whip cream I don't get it?
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>>9023854
You go back and complain.
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>>9023852
I don't know the better taste over other drip machines?
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>>9023852
Batch brew if anon has friends or wants to drink more than one cup of coffee at a time without varying the grind size too much. If anon can afford good beans by the pot then more power to him

Supposedly it keeps boiler temperature better than other machines and is more precise in its pour pattern? I'm not sure because i've never used it.
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>>9023863
What gives it a better taste?

>>9023874
>hay anon do you have any cream and sugar?
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>>9023880
SCAA certification

do you have a better drip machine?
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>>9023886
>we gave some literal who $2000 so we could use their logo
ok
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>>9023852
http://www.scaa.org/?page=cert2

Scroll down to minimum certification requirements

>>9023847
Why would you buy a moccamaster and then use folgers
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>>9023891
Recommend me some coffee faggot this is why I asked
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>>9023893
Do you have a grinder?
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>>9023893
Go find a local roaster.
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>>9023896
no
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>>9023905
Get one
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>>9023674
how can anyone have this opinion
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>>9023628
>grinder
>$400
Are you actually retarded
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>>9023991
If your grinder doesn't cost at least $500 you might as well just drink instant hot sludge like this poorfag >>9023674
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>>9023904
Ignore this retard, local roasters are actually surprisingly bad. Costco and Sam's Club brands are pretty good but whatever you buy you actually want it from a giant roaster
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>>9024000
Ignoring everything else retarded about this post, at least $200 of that should have went into the machine instead
>I spend far too much money on things that make a negligible difference over things half its price so you're all poorfags
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>>9024004
Adding to this, local roasters tend to have far inferior practices, techniques, control, equipment etc.
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>>9023991
No. That is basically the minimum for espresso, unless you want to hand grind
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>>9024004
Enjoy your stale beans, moron
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>>9024033
Local roasters are far more likely to be leaving beans sitting out since quality is heavily scrutinized and regulated among larger ones
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>>9024036
Christ, you're retarded.
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>>9024023
Any tips for finding a good one?
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>>9024031
Different anon here, what's the minimum if I'm happy to hand grind? I enjoy manually grinding my beans, I find it therapeutic.
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>triple espresso latte
>microwave milk + half & half
>throw milk in blender to froth it
>3 tbsp instant coffee and fill half the mug with boiling water
>pour frothy milk to fill the rest of the mug
>draw cute heart shape with the milk

I've come to the conclusion that "real" espresso is a scam.
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>>9024058
$180 LIDO-E
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>>9024013
He's still upset about a post the other week, where ONE anon post said you'd have to spend $500 on an automatic grinder to match the quality and consistency of a LIDO. He replied to that one post in the thread like 5 separate times and has been shitposting ever since.
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>>9024061
God your life sounds pathetic
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>>9024039
So you still have no argument, okay.
>>9024052
Really just find big brand names and of course always buy whole bean.
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>>9020468
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s?k=fuck+off
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was it kinu?
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>>9024149
at least i didn't buy a $500 grinder
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>>9023674
Shut the fuck up.
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did somebody say cowfee
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>>9025083
We didn't need you here
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>>9025083
kys
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about to get some Indian Monsoon Malabar from a local roaster can anyone tell me what I'm in for
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How should I store my whole beans? I like to grind my own coffee but I don't drink it often enough to get through a whole bag of beans quickly.
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>>9025242
Opaque, air-tight container
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>>9024091
Not him but I think
>$500
has achieved meme status.
Oh I've been fiveposting as well so that's at least two of us. I believe that a $500 grinder would be better than a $50 one but the closer they get to one another the quality difference exponentially diminishes. I'd go five hundo but since I'm living alone I don't think my jewish senses would allow that
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>>9025292
How long will they keep like that and still be decent quality?
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I've drank coffee for years six years now. I've never been a coffee connoisseur. Since I'm already this far down the rabbit hole, can anyone give me some
"entry" level coffee recommendations to buy instead of my $20 Mr. Coffee machine and Pete's Coffee that I buy at Target?
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>>9023770
No, straight concentrated instant coffee. No milk, no sugar, final destination.
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>>9025508
Sure anon! I recommend for newbies the hario skerton. It's fifty dollars at bed bath and beyond, but you can find it cheaper online. But it may come broken so I recommend bbb for the customer service. There is also an upgrade you can buy for it which makes it even better.
Then you'll have to find how you want your coffee brewed. Whether you have a lot of disposable income you may one to buy a couple different ones to see what you like. There is
>immersion brewing (French press, clever dripper)
>pour over (Chemex, hario V60)
>cold brew
>drip (standard mr.coffee and normie machines)
Kettle is recommended but I'm sure you have a way to heat up water.Take a look at these methods to start off with. Different methods need a different grind, but it is easy to look up which needs what.
As for what beans to use, anything while bean! Light roasts dark roasts all have a variety of flavors to offer you, and each different brew style also changes the subtlety of flavor.
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>>9025649
Btw forget to mention but the skerton is an entry level grinder.
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For me, it's instant coffee with 3 tbsp of sugar and half a cup of 2% milk. The most delicious way to start my day
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>>9025446
> I think
Gee, no shit, I couldn't tell by the way you're trying to force it.
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>>9026199
>unironic 500-er detected
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>>9026721
I have a lido. You seem to be forgetting that anything >$300 is really for espresso where every little bit of improvement DOES matter
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Bought some water with pH = 7,5. Let's see if i notice any difference. BTW don't know the pH of my tap water.
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>>9026882
You can get a testing kit from the aquarium aisle in Walmart.
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>>9026889
Or from anywhere that has supplies for swimming pools/spas.
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>>9026795
there should be a meme chart for this
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Breville BES920 and Kompac K3 masterrace reporting in. 1000 coffees per day
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Latte~
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>>9027230
Why didn't you draw a dick
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>>9027268
I'm not sure if making 100 lattes consecutively so I can practice making shapes is a good idea.
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>>9027277
It's not a good idea. It's a great idea.
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>>9027277
The highest attainable skill level of any artform is being able to make a dick with it. Get your shit together.
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>>9026795
>I have a lido
dildo, like coffee dildo?
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>>9027695
Lido, like pedo
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>>9025130
They burnt the fucking shit out of the god damn beans. Fucking hell.
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>>9027710
What a waste. I suggest you write a strongly worded google review
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>>9025446
>>$500
>has achieved meme status.
>Oh I've been fiveposting as well so that's at least two of us.
Make it three.I was confronting this faggot snob who was putting anon down for going to buy $180 coffee grinder.

>$180
I could get a decent automatic burr for that but thanks bby >>8981139

>>8981139
no you can't. you'd need to spend $500+ for a grinder that can match the precision and consistency. $180 will buy you a piece of shit. >>8981147

>>8981147
>no you can't. you'd need to spend $500+ for a grinder that can match the precision and consistency. $180 will buy you a piece of shit.
Here we go again.Nonsense based on nano particles size differences.
>>8980583 (You)
>This senseless search for an ideal coffee grinder is in my opinion so very misguided by the false perception that there is a such a thing as possibility of having every single crumb of grounded coffee of the same perfect exact size.
>WHEN YOU PEOPLE WILL REALIZE THAT THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE
>because you are grinding an oval object, so there always will be different size particles, and that stupid nonsense that this nano size difference spoils your fucking coffee is absolutely false and fucking insane. >>8981661

Yes the $500 club.
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>>9027701
>Lido, like pedo
lido pedo ass torpedo
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>>9027772
>dat filename

lmao someone's mad
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What is the best way to prepare coffee that costs under $20?
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>>9027816
im sorry this is a really fucking stupid question
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>>9027841

no its not, $20 to make the best coffee how do it?
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>>9027816
Melitta Ready Set Jew or a Bodum Brazil

like $5 and $20 respectively. Doesn't include a grinder, but you can buy beans and have them ground right then instead of buying pre-ground
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>>9027855

awesome thank you
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>>9027862
reddit.com/r/Coffee/wiki/index
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>>9027772
make an image to solidify meme status you faggot
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>>9027772
You're STILL taking this out of context and throwing a fit? Take a breather, man
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>>9017744

Fairly large difference. I use this one:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000VAWXOU/ref=twister_B001GCTT6M?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

You can sometimes get them on sale for less than $100.
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>>9027816
anon can you increase your budget to like $500 please,
if you do I'm sure few rich snobs anons here can help you, but you see $20 is a pleb level so maybe just stick to drinking instant coffee in mean time
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>>9027882
>make an image to solidify meme status you faggot
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smaller size
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>>9017669
Here they are, boyos. I was really worried about them being overroasted because A LOT of people do that shit and I'm glad to say they're not. Just a slight darker than what I consider a medium roast. Definitely fresh as I suspected as the bloom was huge.

They weren't lying with their notes either. I did a melitta pourover and there is definitely pear and cashew in there.

Would recommend
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>Notice I get depressed if I don't have coffee
>Quit for 2 months
>Depressed anyways
Coffee I'll never leave you again. Caffeine turns me into a functional human being.
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>>9028036
Bonus bloom shot. That's 25g of coffee and 35g of water nearly filling up a Melitta one cup cone
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>>9027895
>You're STILL taking this out of context
Yes Mr. $500 CGF, Coffee Grinder Faggot, out of context, let's see $500 - $180 = $320 difference that is out of context.
How many pounds of coffee is that faggot. (we are talking 100%Arabica beans)
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>>9028058
>bloom
looks like toxic mold to me
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>>9028036
>I was really worried about them being overroasted
Very nice roast.
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>>9028069
He said you'd have to spend $500 on an automatic to match a Lido, not that everyone has to spend that
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>>9028081
>He said you'd have to spend $500 on an automatic to match a Lido, not that everyone has to spend that
No he/you said this,
>$180 will buy you a piece of shit.
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>>9028099
I hope he comes back this Saturday and gets to laugh at you for still being mad a week later.
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>>9028107
>I hope he comes back this Saturday
who is he, and why on Sat?
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>>9026889
I'm the brazilian guy. It is expensive here.
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>>9028117
That's when it started and a lot of people only post on the weekends
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>>9028154
A H A, OK, THANKZ ANONOMOSOMUS
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>>9028024
>>9028024
>>9028029
I meant like an info chart of sorts
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>>9028424
christ, it's been two weeks. you have issues
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Considering the turn the thread has taken, it might not be a good idea to ask but as a beginner coffer fag i've got a ~$200 machine and a super shitty grinder, my question is, why not buy coffee already grounded? Can't you keep the container air tight if you're worried about freshness?
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>>9028435
>christ, it's been two weeks.
Anonymous 05/27/17(Sat)07:37:39 No.8981147
>>8981139
>no you can't. you'd need to spend $500+ for a grinder that can match the precision and consistency. $180 will buy you a piece of shit.

your insult will live very long time in hearts and in minds of those anons who were insulted by your comment, reducing them to the pleb status because they can not afford a $500 coffee grinder
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>>9028453
>Can't you keep the container air tight if you're worried about freshness?
Even an air tight container isn't going to keep ground coffee fresh. It loses its freshness in minutes, which is why everyone recommends grinding right before you brew. It's not like it's going to go bad or anything, it just isn't going to taste anywhere near as good as it could.

Anyways, if it tastes good to you, then fucking whatever, that's all that matters. Just if you post about it, prepare to get some flak
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>>9028453
anon PLEASE don't pollute this thread with $200 questions.
isn't clear to you that the minimum is $500.
you pleb will never learn

please refer to this picture, >>9028069
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>>9028069
>$500 CGF
>$500
>Coffee
>Grinder
>Faggot
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>>9028471
Ah that makes a lot of sense, well until I get some more money I'll just use my shitty grinder then, thanks for the reasonable response anon, I appreciate it!
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>>9028038
I'm the same anon. Every time I have a shitty day it traces back to a day I didn't have coffee. I actually don't think it's addiction, but just doing the routine sets you up for a better day, if that makes any sense
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>>9028511
>Ah that makes a lot of sense, well until I get some more money
not some money! you faggot
get solid $500
otherwise drink your coffee that has no freshness in it, PLEASE set the budged according to this faggot the famous $500CGF >>9028496
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>>9028517
Yeah, I think the push at the start of the day snowballs as I keep getting things done, rather than feeling flat all day.
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>>9028528
Ugh, please stop. You realise there's an entire internet that's full of people that disagree with you? Just let it go man.
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>>9028561
>You realise there's an entire internet that's full of people that disagree with you?
give me their names and I will set them straight.

>>9028561
>Just let it go man.
easy for you to let go $500 for a coffee grinder because you are a rich coffee snob the 1%ter, but most anons here are plebs in your opinion because $180 is plebs level, yes?
sure try your pressure tactics to divert the topic but I think it is too late for that now, now the coffee culture is changed with your so obvious snobbism being filthy rich
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>>9028561
You know anon really you should do something for that anon that you insulted with your $500 comment, that was not necessary you know
maybe you should buy him that $500 coffee grinder to redeem your reputation here.
otherwise shame on you
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>>9017616
i drink instant coffee With skim milk and Splenda
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>>9028680
agreed.only 1% ters could be so mean and cold blooded making fun of those who have less money to invest in their coffee making gear.
>what a shame
>even coffee culture is dominated by rich and powerful
>what a shame
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I drink McDonald's Keurig coffee
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>>9017780
But an industrial grinder costs more than $500. So therefore Folgers > boutique hand-ground shit.
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>>9028790
If you don't grind within five minutes of brewing, you are poor pleb that should not even look at the coffee beans and stick to Folgers instead.
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>>9028069
>>9028424
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>>9029527
I can't tell if you're being ironic or not.
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>>9029539
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Until very recently we was tired of the "muh facts and scientific data" guy constantly spouting autistic shit like dark roasted coffee is cancerous, and now we have this 500$-ism cult member?
LOL shitstorm never ends.
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>>9029616
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>>9022057
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feels good man. been using a hario mini mill for almost four years but one of the parts broke this morning.
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Lads, whenever I drink coffee at home I get the shits.
I can stomach coffee and espresso in restaurants/cafés, but at home I just feel like puking and then my anus erupts.
Also it tastes sour. Are my beans shit?
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>>9029941
>but one of the parts broke this morning.
maybe because it was a piece of shit under $500
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>>9029947
>Lads, whenever I drink coffee at home I get the shits.
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>>9029941
>been using a hario mini mill for almost four years but one of the parts broke this morning.
you'd need to spend $500+ for a grinder that can match the precision and consistency. $180 will buy you a piece of shit.
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>>9029953
>>9029994
great meme lads
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>>9029941
>>9029994
please be joking, ceramic grinders are garbage after the first few grinds
>but muh bushing, muh custom 3d printer makerbot makerbot hackspace adafruit
nope. still shit, enjoy your delusoins
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>not owning a $500+ grinder
>not quadruple sifting the grinds down to 3um for the perfect cup of espresso

Y'all are plebs for sure
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FUCK YOU french press.
FUCK YOU AeroPress.
MOVE OVER you FUCKERS

AMERICAN PRESS is moving to Town
American Press Coffee Brewer
https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/its-american-press/american-press

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmMJ17JOC_c
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>>9018852
>Brazilian

Which brand?
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>>9030052
>yet another plastic penis pump
when will these shit heads learn that I want glass, not hormones?
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>>9030052
The only down side to AmericanPress is the price, $79.95
way fucking below $500
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>>9030073
did I miss something? why is every comment lately le $500 meme, did you defend poverty shit and get BTFO? let it go, and get a job, fuck
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>>9030072
Agree with you on plastic.Let's hope they will make glass model.
Looks like a good device, but the price is turning me Off.
I'm not touching shit under $500 (US) I'M NOT SOME POOR PLEB.
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>>9030081
man, whoever made you this booty blasted deserves some reddit gold
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anons do you know where can I buy $500/lb coffee
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>>9030084
>whoever made you this booty blasted deserves some reddit gold
>>9029592
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>>9030090
jesus christ, what a sore loser

I wish there was a shitposting site that had a minimum income requirement
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>>9030086
I'm looking to buy $500 coffee mug, but all the shit in stores is around $180
Fuck those poor plebs saturating market with this cheap stuff.
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>>9030095
>minimum income requirement
I make $500/day. Fuck Off you poor pleb, go and make your $180/day and be happy. I have much higher aspirations.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XOlBFTDWn1U
I just tryed this vapor wave drink idiots
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DAE Happy Mug™? Happy Mug™ is the best bang for your buck. I was sceptical but after one shipment I totally understand why everyone agrees Happy Mug™ is the best shilling job AmazonBux can buy

Don't buy from your local roaster or anyone you've heard of (Intelligentsia, Counter Culture, Blue Bottle, Colombe, etc). Those are all for people who aren't underground coffee insiders. They don't know the One Cool Trick that Big Coffee doesn't want you to know!

Buy Happy Mug™ today, fellow kids

Sincerely, totally not a college student getting paid to write reviews on every website
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>>9030102
faggot detected
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Fiji water is pure aesthetic it is so aesthetic
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Why do reddit neckbeards complain that Starbucks is burnt as if they offer only one roast? Even their default Pike is lighter than what you'd get in most European cafes. How did this meme start?
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>>9030121
how old are you? the light roast stuff is fairly new, it was introduced in response to widespread griping about burned beans, and "what you'd get in most european cafes" is not a standard of quality anyone who gives a shit about coffee should be going for
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Coffee gives me the poops. I know some people get them and others dont (I think I read a study where 60% of people get them) any way to remedy this? Can't drink coffee in the morning because I know I'll get the poops during my 2hr bus ride and the office bathrooms are disgusting.
Also, I haven't been able to get a caffeine buzz since I first drank coffee, when I drank 2 mugs of it. I dont drink coffee everyday or even frequently so its not that my body has adapted to caffeine. What can I do to get that buzz back?
Last question, I only drink pre ground beans with a French press, but if I run out I have an emergency instant coffee can, does that have the same caffeine as normal ground bean coffee?
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Moka is the definitive way. No match. The ritual of filling it, the smell, the sound, the delicious taste.
It's almost religious.
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>>9030432
Well yeah the sound of a moka pot is nice.
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>>9017669
FUCK ANON DON'T DRINK THAT!

Those mexican jumping beans were grown using MEXICAN WATER. That means you're going to get second hand dysentery, friendo.
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>>9030787
>dat filename
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>>9030792
Mexican coffees are the worst. Complete tasteless fraud.
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>>9030792
I don't even buy and eat veggies grown in fucking Mexico never mind coffee.
Mexican workers are known to piss in the fields on them just because they are so bitter and resentful of Americans.
Mexican coffee is full of toxic chemicals, fuck that poisonous crap.
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>>9030867
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>>9030939
Mexican shithead detected protecting shitty coffee and veggies grown in shitty Mexico.
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>>9030944
>i don't mind drinking coffee grown in 3rd world shitholes
>except mexico because only mexicans resent americans
>no other country is resentful of americans
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>>9030946
There is plenty of stories about Mexican field workers pissing and shitting on veggies grown for shipment to America.
There is no need to buy and eat veggies grown in fucking shithole Mexico. America grows its own, let's eat American grown veggies.
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>>9030960
I do check labels and if fruits or veggies are from Mexico I don't buy them, period.
Had Mexican coffee twice and both times was the worst shit ever.
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>>9030960
>let's eat American grown veggies.
Also picked by mexicans.
Also since trump's new policies are scaring them away, entire fields of cash crops are now rotting away because farmers cannot find enough mexicans to work the fields, and americans don't want to step in and fill the void.

So no, there won't be "american grown veggies" for much longer.
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>>9030972
Americans are actually stepping in and willing to do the work. Where has this myth come from where Americans are "too good" to pick things? The only reason they hire those Mexicans is because they work for cheap and under the table.
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>>9030972
That will be solved by very simple solution, farmers need to pay the workers descent wages.
The reason it got that way it was because the cockroaches swarmed US and accepted very low pay, same shit is happening in the construction and gardening industries.
So there will be time of adjustment and farmers will need to pay normal wages to American workers and everything will be just fine and as a bonus America will be cleansed from illegal Mexican workers.
Win Win.
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>>9030990
>Americans are actually stepping in and willing to do the work.
proof?

Americans do think they're too good to pick things, many of them are college educated and won't settle for nothing less than their dream job and so they end up unemployed.
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>>9031000
It also "got that way" because most customers demand the cheapest possible produce.
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>>9031000
Here's an example of that world famous "american work ethic"
mexicans work harder than you and don't complain or take breaks every 10 minutes and for that you call them cockroaches
amazing
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>>9031000
>The reason it got that way it was because the cockroaches swarmed US and accepted very low pay,
BTW, with all the respect to descent Mexicans I do not blame them for accepting lower wages for working in America, many of them are very descent honest hard workers.
The American businessman the American farmers and governments are at fault here for exploring this situation and therefore eventually eliminating American workers from taking those jobs for extremely low pay.

Same shit as with American businessmen moving factories to China (and now more and more to Mexico) and depriving American workers from getting employment, it's a vicious circle of greed by the businessmen.
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>>9031006
>because most customers demand the cheapest possible produce.
You are full of shit.
Show me one picture of consumers standing in front of stores demanding cheaper products. NON EXIST.
THE FUCKING GREEDY BUSINESSMEN come up with this concept and if consumers presented with cheaper goods of course they will buy it.
Stop this fake news bullshit that its the consumer's fault.
That's how you ruin your own economy by exporting jobs to a low wage countries.
Use your brain next time you post.
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>>9031014
I'm not sure why you place all the blame on "businessmen" and not the consumer.

If you had any experience operating a business you'd know that the business is the slave to the customer. The business succeeds or fails based on how well they can address the customer's needs. In this case, it's people demanding ever-cheaper produce that results in cost-cutting measures, like hiring undocumented migrant works.

Nothing is going to change unless the customers are willing to pay more money for the product.
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>>>/pol/
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>>9031034
>it's people demanding ever-cheaper produce
post proof of people demanding cheaper goods, pictures videos of street protests
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>>9031040
Agreed.

going back to topic, MEXICAN coffee is total shit.
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>>9031034
Government(s) are to blame for that, for allowing this to be practiced by business owners.
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>>9031031
Demanding cheaper products doesn't mean engaging in full-on protest with picket signs. It simply means they choose to buy whatever's cheaper.

You see this in every supermarket in the whole damn country. Do they have locally grown high-quality produce? Rarely. But they're got plenty of factory-farmed cheap stuff, often imported from Mexico.

Wal-mart is another great example. It's one of the biggest businesses in the country, if not the world. The whole business is built on the principle of low prices.

The reason I blame the customer is because they are the ones who enable this shit. If some businessman were to offer cheap crap built on cheating people out of wages then why don't the customers refuse to buy said product? Because most of them don't care. Even if they think they care they usually don't.

There was a fantastic article about this published fairly recently. They surveyed a bunch of people about whether or not they preferred to "buy American" or if they preferred cheap imports. The overwhelming majority--I think it was around 80%--said that they preferred to buy American. Yet, when those same customers spending habits were tracked, only about 10% of them actually put their money where their mouth is and actually chose to buy American. Most of them, despite their lip-flapping, chose to buy cheap import shit from Wal-Mart.
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>>9031041
How are you this disconnected from reality?
Have you never bought vegetables before?
Vegetables are a commodity, there's no brand loyalty and stores will pick the cheapest supplier and set one price for all of the same vegetable for simplicity and convenience, it's all the same product after all.
You bring people into your store selling a few things at cost and hope they buy other more expensive things, this is how a grocery store stays afloat.
Vegetables would become much more expensive if you suddenly had to start paying minimum wage to every shit-eating american kid picking vegetables, and I'm sure they'd want benefits too.
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>>9031050
Coffee sucks in general, Mexican coffee sucks the most amongst all the coffees grown all over the World. Period.
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>>9031063
>>9031060
>Government(s) are to blame for that, for allowing this to be practiced by business owners.

OK, let's talk coffee before we get banned.
I think Jan is already itching >>9031040
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>>9031070
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>>9031079
I don't visit that thing called Redit.
I never posted on Redit.
I have no clue what your are talking about.
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>>9031079
Mexican coffee is usually pretty dire to be fair but a lot of that is down to the decimation coffee rust caused.
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Who here /buttercoffee/?
or ghee coffee
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>>9031106
anything but Mexican saw dust coffee shit.
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>>9031070
>>9031098
I hate to rain on your little parade, but I already tried it. It was quite good. I didn't die.
>>9028036
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>>9031041
>>9031031
>demanding
Take econ 101 kiddo.
It will help you understand big words when the adults are talking.
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>>9023880
a better taste than what?

the point is that it's basically as good as a cheap manual pour, which can't be surpassed on cheap auto drip machines
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I fucking lost with the $500 grinder meme. Thanks, anon who did it.
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Post beans
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$500 coffee grinder drama continues. KEK
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>>9032734
>Post beans
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>>9028024
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>>9028424
thanks for taking the time to take my quote and create an image meme out of it senpai
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>>9032839
>>9028725

>thanks for taking the time to take my quote and create an image meme out of it senpai
Yes, yes yes
>>9028680
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>>9032839
you must feel proud of yourself for putting others down for not having money to buy $500 coffee grinders,anon
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>>9032839
>thanks for taking the time to take my quote and create an image meme out of it senpai
middle ground
>>9028680
>You know anon really you should do something for that anon that you insulted with your $500 comment, that was not necessary you know
>maybe you should buy him that $500 coffee grinder to redeem your reputation here.
>otherwise shame on you
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I feel so ashamed to ask coffee questions here because I don't have expensive coffee making gear.
I feel like an outsider, poor fucker that nobody loves,fucking pleb trying to fit in.
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>>9032942
at least that fucker likes to make turkish coffee
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coffee usually doesn't give me the runs, just makes me poop, does different coffee make you poop differently?
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>>9032942
anon I will have mercy on you and will give two options,
1. buy $500 coffee grinder,or
2. picture related

I don't see any other option for you at this time anon.
Maybe that anon who thinks that having $500 coffee grinder is the only way to have happy life, maybe he will chime in and suggest that you will be OK with buying $180 coffee grinder, but who knows he is a very rich snob
so he might just pour his freshly made coffee in his $4500 espresso machine on your head and laugh at your misery.
In that case you have Option-2.
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>>9032942
Don't feel that way anon. What's your question? I promise not to fivepost
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>>9033029
OK. I trust you.

My question is can I make great cup of turkish coffee on my stove if I buy $180 coffee grinder?
I just can't use my monthly cheque of $500 to buy very fancy coffee grinder, but if I eat KraftDinners all month I can save money and but the $180 grinder.
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I proudly use a pod espresso machine for my morning coffee during the week

I don't give a shit what you guys say, I can roll out of bed and pull a 7/10 double espresso in like 45 seconds flat with no cleanup, you cannot beat it for wageslaving if you can afford it
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>>9033005
>does different coffee make you poop differently?
ask this cat, he shits coffee all day long
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>>9033005
tinned pre ground coffee gives me the shits like crazy, bagged beans don't

it's magic
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>>9025083
gween tee
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just buy a french press you fucking autists
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>>9033071
do you guys practice Environmental Friendly Shitting and shit in your empty coffee bags and mix it with used coffee grounds and put in your composter
or you just shit like all normies do and flash it down the toilet with several gallons of water.
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>>9033089
>just buy a french press you fucking autists
french press is useless overrated garbage.

American press is the newest gadget, check this out
>>9030052
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>>9033005
I only get shit runs if I drink coffee that my friend grinds in her $180 grinder, when I grind coffee with my $500 grinder no problems with sudden shit ejections from my ass.

it's magic
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anons please can someone explain to me why $500 grinder is so much better than $180 grinder. I don't understand all that controversy
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That anon who was shaming the other anon for not buying 500 dollars coffee grinder got me so depressed and drove me to switch to instant coffee now.
I'm scared now that I will do something very bad grinding my coffee with cheaper grinder so instant coffee sounds very safe to use.
Why this coffee thing have to be so expensive and complicated.
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>>9033090
honestly I've thought about doing it a few times, I probably would if I lived out in the country

free shit for the pile to feed my okra and tomatos with
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Light roast is the superior drink. Not bitter, more caffeine, and a good metric for determining if a company knows shot about their roasting grades.

8 o'clock, amazingly enough is still about the best readily available coffee I have found. Gevalia is pretty dam nice too.
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I travel to the US often and these fuckers cannot make a decent cup of coffee.

America makes a cappuccino with fucking whipped cream and other bullshit.
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>>9033351
But at least they don't use cheap $180 coffee grinders that are used in your country,so stop being jealous because they use $500 grinders.
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>>9033351
t.stays in howard johnson on his ''''business''''' trips

how's the sex trafficking business lately, chang?
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Good morning coffee. Had a productive week even tough I'm still having exams.

Checked water temperature and the temperature during infusion. Was starting with water too hot (> 98ÂşC) a pan and after 3 minutes it dropped bellow 80 ÂşC. Now I'm using a stainless steel pan with compost bottom and the lid to keep warmer for longer.

Found one book about volatile compounds at uni so now I'm able to start writing my first pages about coffee. I'm gonna start with chemical details then write a bit about biological details like varieties. I still need to find something about history/economy and more about industrial processing.

Bought alkaline water to see what happens. Really seems to improve foam formation (read a paper saying it helps foaming espresso). Somehow this water makes acid notes more apparent. Maybe this is caused by my new infusion temperature that keeps higher for longer.

Found ABIC (brazilian coffee association) journal and that's very nice since until now I've been reading only research papers. This journal is more industry oriented. I discovered a lot of brands that I never heard before in 5 minutes. Just need to wait for money and then buy some new coffees to try.
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>>9033785

In my city there's a college and they have agronomy course. I'm gonna check if any professor has any tip about some coffee problem that I could help researching in my conclusion paper. If negative then I'm gonna do something about water or volatile compounds. I would like to focus on cultivation of coffee but unluckly my college don't have support for this.

A question for you -- what your area of interests? Mine are food, sports, and botany. In my free time I either focus on practicing and learning about food or plants. I've been cooking for my family during colleges break and also planning and design I pot garden for home. See pic related? if you don't live in the ice or in the desert then it is just dumb to not have plants, they are cheap and improves 100% the city. Got pic is from Stephen Ellcock on facebook. Highly recommend following this account if you use facebook.
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MotoGP and Formula 1 this weekend. Get your brewers ready
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>>9033090
Yes but I let the worms shit on it instead.
>>9033177
It's a meme.
t. guy who asked whether a better manual grinder will grind faster and started the whole spergoff
>>9033275
Put it in a composting bin
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>>9034156
>meme=falsehood
Retard.
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>>9034158
there's some truth to it especially for finer grinds but $500 sounds pretty arbitrary
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>>9033817
is driving a car a sport?
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>>9034166
No. Racing one is, though.
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I drink
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>>9034303

It was a nice cheap coffee for when I couldn't get anything better while I lived in Europe.

I also miss Illy, it was quite good.
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>>9033042
You should be able too. If you get a hand crank one it will take forever, or something that might be an option are two step grinders, they are
Much cheaper than burrs
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>>9034163
Okay there is some truth but there is no excuse for all the nano particles business
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>>9034416
>but there is no excuse for all the nano particles business
hey easy easy there anon,
few different sizes of nano particles of grounded coffee and your cup is ruined because they will extract differently.
or you get very precise coffee grinder (in $500 price range and above) or you manually remove those nano coffee particles before brewing.
Just take a look at instant coffee how uniformed all the particles are, and that's why instant coffee delivers constant reliable high quality brew every single time.
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>>9034566
>Just take a look at instant coffee how uniformed all the particles are, and that's why instant coffee delivers constant reliable high quality brew every single time.

Process for preparing instant coffee.
Patents US 3493388 A.
https://www.google.com/patents/US3493388

This invention relates to instant coffee. It deals with a unique agglomerated instant coffee product which has an appearance resembling that of roast and ground coffee.
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>>9034566
That sounds like a bunch of baloney that you would say to me on a late night infomercial so I'll spend five affordable payments of 100 on your product
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>>9034741
this faggot has different opinion
>>9029660
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>>9030052
Any of you faggots has this American Press already or you still using those shitty french press.
>>
I hate drinkin coffee
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do you have any espresso for my depresso?
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>>9035728
how about french presso in your ass'o
or Aeropresso in your anus'esso
>>
>tfw quit coffee because i'm too lazy to maintain an addiction

feels kind of free desu. now i only have the occasional recreational cup.
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>>9030052
looks like a less efficient aeropress
>>
what's your clever dripper technique /coffee/?
I get inconsistent coarser grinds, so today I tried an ancient hb post's suggestion of fine grind, a bit under a minute of immersion, then a drain, with no agitation except a small swirl of the dripper itself at the end
came out ok, a lot less muddled/syrupy than my usual (slightly coarser grind, 2.5 minutes immersion, then faster drawdown), but I think my grind was too fine as the drain took like 2 minutes
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>>9035997
I do a 1:16, medium-coarse grind, draw down at 3-3:15, which takes about another a minute. Never could get it right with my Hario Skerton as it produced too many fines and the draw down took forever (>two minutes). That could also be your problem
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>>9036038
yeah, I've got a skerton, and everything I was making (even with really nice beans) just doesn't have much definition. forgot to mention I was using a bit over 1:16 too
you think it's viable to go really fine and do quick-extraction to get something tea-like but clear, or will it just clog and overextract?
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>>9036069
I wouldn't go really fine. I would just try to use whatever grind gives you a ~1 minute drawdown and then play with the other variables e.g. immersion time, water temp, agitation, filters
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>>9035997
I use the except same setup but usually just do a medium to course grind and a 3 minute steep.

Works fine for me but I'm not too serious about my coffee, just want it to taste fresh and decent.
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>>9035969
or maybe way more efficient Aeropress actually.
I'm not that impressed with my Aeropress,it's OK, much better than french piss-press but I prefer coffee from my moka pot.
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https://www.amazon.com/JavaPresse-Manual-Coffee-Grinder-Precision/dp/B013R3Q7B2/ref=sr_1_7?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1497151215&sr=1-7&keywords=coffee+grinder+burr

is there anything wrong with this

plz dont meme me
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>>9036649
>is there anything wrong with this
>plz dont meme me

JavaPresse Manual Coffee Grinder | Conical Burr Mill for Precision Brewing | Brushed Stainless Steel
Price: $59.99
Sale: $23.99

>no you can't. you'd need to spend $500+ for a grinder that can match the precision and consistency. $180 will buy you a piece of shit.
>no you can't. you'd need to spend $500+ for a grinder that can match the precision and consistency. $180 will buy you a piece of shit.
>no you can't. you'd need to spend $500+ for a grinder that can match the precision and consistency. $180 will buy you a piece of shit.

>plz dont meme me
TOO FUCKING LATE
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>>9036649
>is there anything wrong with this
>plz dont meme me
>>9036715
>TOO FUCKING LATE
TOO FUCKING LATE
>TOO FUCKING LATE
TOO FUCKING LATE
>>
NEW THREAD NOW!!

>>9036990
>>9036990
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>>9036991
>NEW THREAD NOW!!
NEW thread is shits. this one is much better
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