Keto

Stale bait right out the gate.
You'll get replies though.

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I make this shit sometimes, tortilla pizza/quesodilla. Mission low-carb tortillas are real fluffy, fry well in a lot of butter.

>>8870358
How do you poop?

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>>8870361
sorry anon I haven't posted on /ck/ since keto got popular.

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>>8870367
Pretty well until I cheat. I can have a big cheat meal once a week and maintain weight, and don't really get the temptation to go off the rails.

(bake this shit 500 degrees for 5-8 minutes)

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Here's my typical lunch. 4x4 animal style protein style. I'll usually have a cup of coffee with heavy cream in the morning, and eat lunch between 11am-1pm, whenever I feel like it. Occasionally I won't get hungry and will just wait until 5pm or later to eat.

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Sometimes I just don't eat all day. Hunger just feels different. Sometimes I'll just fast until evening and eat some bacon before bed.

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El Pollo Loco is another quick and easy place to get food. I'm a lazy fuck, and even though I love cooking I was addicted to how easy and tasty fast food is. I knew I couldn't do low-carb if I had to pack a fucking lunch every day.

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I'm not posting this to stroke my ego (I mean maybe a little bit). I just know there's at least one fat fuck reading this that doesn't think they have the willpower to change, or doesn't know how badly they want to change.

I dropped 60 pounds in less than six months, from 245 to 185. My blood pressure dropped from 139/92 to 116/80, my bad cholesterol has gone down, and my good cholesterol has gone up. I have done zero exercise. I don't count calories. All I eat is delicious fatty foods. I cheat all the fucking time. It's easy. This shit is idiot proof.

back in my day we called this the atkins diet

>>8870475
Heard that keto can causes baby brained-ness and people think it's bad for your brain. Opinions?

Also are you using this as a short term weight loss or long term diet? Again lots of debate on if this is healthy or not.

Keep up the posts. Nice refresher from the cringe and fast food threads.

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>>8870487
Atkins tells you to not worry about the carb restriction after a few weeks and just hoped people would eat less. It worked okay.

>>8870531
>Heard that keto can causes baby brained-ness

If you have any source for that claim, I'd like to look into it. I haven't heard anything like this. Most of the research on low-carb diets are shitty science or not keto, using lab rats or feeding people 20-30% carbs. I imagine we'll be seeing a lot more research on this in the next couple years.

>Also are you using this as a short term weight loss or long term diet?

At first I just planned on doing it for a month to see how it worked. Within the first two weeks I was sold. When I ate carbs, I was tired constantly. I drank a ton of coffee, and needed a caffeinated drink just to get me through the next 2-3 hours before I could have another one. I never stopped being hungry, I could eat thousands and thousands of calories and still go to bed hungry, it was infuriating. Now, I could go days on 500-1000 calories and never be that hungry, or that tired.

Keto is AMAZING.
I lost 14 pounds in my first week.

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>>8870690
Nice, anon! Most of that is water weight, so don't expect to keep up that pace. Just don't quit when you hit a plateau! Sometimes I'll stay at the same weight for weeks, and then suddenly drop 5-10 pounds at once.

>>8870683
Research?
The human brain needs sugar to function.
Eliminating sugar turns you into a retarded mess. This is not cause for a rat study, it's common knowledge.

They don't need to kill rats to tell you that you're being asinine and I really hope they don't.

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>>8870700
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluconeogenesis

The body can make sugar for the brain without eating sugar or carbs. Pretty sure I'd be dead if this wasn't a thing. How do you think apes survive on meat and vegetables? You think they're out there in the jungle baking fuckin brownies?

2nd day of keto
throat is dry as a motherfucker
will this last forever?

>>8871102
Eat a little more salt, your body dropped water weight and its eaiser to get dehydrated.

>>8870719
vegetables are full of sugar and carbs

you ass

>>8870719
>Fruits didn't exist in the wild

>>8870367
I do intermittent fasting which makes it easy to avoid carbs. I poop once a day after taking fiber pills. Sometimes I have to take double the dose or else I can't.

It always comes out well.

>>8870358
>keto
What is keto?

>>8871436
Listen to an episode of Joe Rogan Experience. Just about any will do. You'll be a primal blueprint expert in no time!

Also dieting myself, not keto but essentially just cutting out all fast food and junk food. The grill is a godsend, and it's perfect this time of year. Living off every goddamn vegetable they make. Grilled asparagus, mushroom, squash, zucchini.

>>8871149
Where did Eskimos get their corn and potatoes? Kayak trade with the Aztecs?

>>8871436
A shitty diet for fatties who makes you sick as a fucking dog but it's "part of the experience".

>>8870358
If beer and fruity pebbles didn't exist I'd be there without trying.

>>8870358
Try making broccoli cream cheese soup, it's easy and amazing.

>>8870358
Have some cookbooks:
https://filescdn.com/fkx7mg7hh58v
http://novafile.com/0jd9ed4jy8j7
http://novafile.com/yt2603jxozf0
http://novafile.com/jmkxna2bbf05

>>8870475
Wow nice.
Your bait while stinky is still shit.

Hustle harder.>>8870487

>>8871532
google eskimo potato

>>8871541
>Hustle harder.>>8870487
Atkins is high protein, keto is moderate protein, high fat.

>>8871102
You really need to up your electrolytes intake to avoid feeling like shit for the first few days after cutting carbs. Drink some broth whenever you're getting foggy or a dry throat or anything.

>>8870700
Even in a Keto diet you can and still will eat a small amount of carbs. Your body burns the most calories and your body will synthesize the needed energy from fats instead of carbs to run your body. In the keto state you feel less hungry and more energetic overall. Your mind becomes clearer too as your body isn't gunked up by carbs. The brain does need sugars though and I believe it is wise to eat some carbs with a mostly keto diet if you decide to do keto.
Personally I think intermittent fasting is better, because you have less restriction on what you can eat.
Ultimately though I liked Keto, I now eat 2 meals a day instead of like 1, and I eat some carbs and I think it's better this way, I'll admit sometimes you just get "hungry" and need a cheat day and that's probably from over cutting during the week.

>>8871621
>Personally I think intermittent fasting is better
I do both.

>>8871626
nice. are you going thin or do you workout?
My bmi is 18.8, trying to get to 17.5
I'm 6 foot

>>8871638
5'10, 85kg. Just some moderate weight lifting and judo. Never was fat, I'm doing it to test the long term effects and so far I'm pretty happy with the changes in my life thanks to keto + IF. No mental fog, more energy that doesn't fluctuate over the day, never hungry.

>>8871643
holy shit I'm an inch taller than you and 67 kilos at the moment and feel fat as fuck.

>>8871651
Start lifting, you really want a strong musculoskeletal system once you get older.

Is keto something for me? Went from 75 kg to 55 kg over 2 months finally got diagnosed with morbus crohn and prescribed 50 mg prednisolone now i cant fucking stop eating carbs and am affraid im gonna get diabetus

>>8871665
There's this case report on treating Crohn's disease with a keto diet if you're interested: http://www.ijcasereportsandimages.com/archive/early_view_articles/early-view-pdfs/773_Z01_2016040099_CR_EV.pdf

>>8871665
>finally got diagnosed with crohn

Colonoscopy ?

>>8871638
>>8871651
you have an actual eating disorder

>>8871665
Diabetes type 2 is promoted by (1) obesity, (2) genetics, (3) environmental toxins, (4) dietary fat, (5) animal protein, (6) lack of exercise.

High-fat diets and diets high in animal protein promote insulin resistance and diabetes.

Carbohydrates and plant foods are protective against diabetes. Diabetes is very rare in populations following a high-carbohydrate diet.

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>>8871691
Here's your shekel.

>>8871665
Can confirm: Prednisolone gives you the appetite of a fucking gorilla.

>>8871695
Fuck off kike

Gary Taubes - Jew
Robert Lustig - Jew
David Ludwig - Jew
Dariush Mozaffarian - Jew

Ancel Keys - Aryan hero who discovered that dietary fat kills you
John Yudkin (Keys' enemy and early promoter of the big lie that fat is healthy an sugar is unhealthy) - J E W I S H

Anti-sugar/anti-carb is a Jewish operation.

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>>8871708
>Ancel Keys - Aryan hero who
got paid off by the sugar industry. He also looks like a beady Anglo rat, the worst kind of creature crawling around on this planet.

>>8871643
Fellow Judo bro reporting in, where are you training at?

are you shitposting on asp too?

is that you tanner?

Greg? I feel like I should know you the judo 4chan community crossover is slim

>>8871722
>I feel like I should know you the judo 4chan community crossover is slim
I'm not really a part of that community, I usually don't talk about it unless asked.

>>8871740
Well I'm asking

>>8871740
if you cut to 78kg and compete, chances are we've fought homie

>>8871691
>Psst. Hey guys! Type 2 diabetes has nothing to do with fructose. Fat makes you fat! Asian genetics has nothing to do with type 2 resistance!

Lol. Every thread, grain merchant.

>>8871749
Not really comfortable with telling you the dojo considering there are team pics on the website. It's nothing fancy anyway.
>>8871751
I'm from Europe and I only did state competitions so far, so chances are we didn't.

>>8871752
>Results: In a univariate analysis, a significant correlation with diabetes prevalence was observed for dietary fat (r = 0.84, P < 0.001), carbohydrate (r = 0.55, P < 0.001), protein (r = 0.71, P < 0.001), fiber (r = 0.16, P = 0.03), corn syrup (r = 0.83, P < 0.001), and total energy (r = 0.75, P < 0.001) intakes. In a multivariate nutrient-density model, in which total energy intake was accounted for, corn syrup was positively associated with the prevalence of type 2 diabetes (β = 0.0132, P = 0.038). Fiber (β = −13.86, P < 0.01) was negatively associated with the prevalence of type 2 diabetes. In contrast, protein (P = 0.084) and fat (P = 0.79) were not associated with the prevalence of type 2 diabetes when total energy was controlled for.

>Conclusions: Increasing intakes of refined carbohydrate (corn syrup) concomitant with decreasing intakes of fiber paralleled the upward trend in the prevalence of type 2 diabetes observed in the United States during the 20th century.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/79/5/774.full

>>8871755
>In contrast, protein (P = 0.084) and fat (P = 0.79) were not associated with the prevalence of type 2 diabetes
What does this sentence mean, anon?

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>>8871533
>implying high carb diet is so healthy

>>8871755
"Increased consumption of refined carbohydrates and the epidemic of type 2 diabetes in the United States: an ecologic assessment1,2,3"

Source–1From the Inter-Medic Medical Group, North Port, FL (LSG); the Department of Family Medicine, University Hospitals of Cleveland, Case Western Reserve University (LL); the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta (ESF); the Division of Preventive Medicine, Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston (SL); and the Department of Epidemiology, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston (SL).

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>>8870367
with my asshole. Its a keto diet. Not a complete species change

>>8871757
He's a nigger from the gay part of Switzerland, don't expect him to understand English.

>>8871757
Those are the science-speak statistical numbers for the study on correlation between dietary macronutrient content and type 2 diabetes. I gave you the link for the full paper.

These people >>8871760 think high refined carbohydrate diets cause type 2 diabetes.

>>8871754
Good luck on your training friend, lift hard and tuck your chin,

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Im getting my first blood tests after a year of doing paleo next week.

I have felt healthier on this diet, and my reason for originally doing the diet, thrush/candida, has mostly been managed, apart from the odd reoccurance.

>>8871751
>chances are we've fought
You mean pulled each other's bath robes off while wrestling on the floor to score domination points.

You don't fight in Judo, it's a game. The name is "gentle way".

Who is the boss of your gym?

>>8871755
>>8871760
>>8871775
>muh correlations
A classic case of "top kek"

>>8871752
>Asian genetics has nothing to do with type 2 resistance!
I never said that though

>>8871775
>These people >>8871760 think high refined carbohydrate diets cause type 2 diabetes.
Well, so do the people from your own study >>8871755
>In a multivariate nutrient-density model, in which total energy intake was accounted for, corn syrup was positively associated with the prevalence of type 2 diabetes (β = 0.0132, P = 0.038).

>>8871782
Thanks, you too.

>>8871832
>>8871760
Oh, and
>(β = 0.0132, P = 0.038).
Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill

I last fasted for 30 days and I was constantly feeling like death. My blood sugar is low by default and blood pressure is low too.

I theory I could do keto but I love muh carbs. What can I have for breakfast for example? I also way on the run every single day.

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>>8871843
>I last fasted for 30 days and I was constantly feeling like death.

>>8871856
It also destroyed my social life.
I got gout halfway and was taking allopurinol everyday. Only dropped 10kg.

How do I keto?

>>8871866
My bet would be that probably didn't drink enough water, didn't eat your veggies like you're supposed to and ate too much meat.

>>8871880
This was fasting

>>8871926
Then you did that wrong. What has that to do with keto?

>>8871935
Want to try keto

>>8871938
Check out https://authoritynutrition.com/ketogenic-diet-101/ and https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb (2. What to eat) and like I said, make sure to get enough electrolytes to avoid feeling like shit in the first few days, since you'll be losing a lot of water weight.

What kind of fasting did you do?

>>8871950
Thanks anon

I did water fasting. I was taking allopurinol everyday to take away the pangs and the gout I got 2 weeks in or so. I was pretty sharp and alert but was physically weak. Had absolutely no interest in food at all and felt good. I heard about it from a friend who wrote a blog about it, he had great results but me, not so much.

>>8871974
>I did water fasting.
Did you supplement vitamins and minerals? How much excess bodyfat do you have?

>>8871950
Authoritynutrition is fake news
DietDoctor is funded by the meat industry

>>8871988
>Authoritynutrition is fake news
I'm not going to take some grain kike's baseless claim over their plenty of sources and my personal experience.

>DietDoctor is funded by the meat industry
Does that change anything about the concise overview of net carbs in foods on their site?

>>8871988
All nutritional science is bullshit aimed to increase sales of waste chemicals, which Americans avidly claim that they need to eat to survive.
It's too sad to be a humorous situation.

>>8872004
>increase sales of waste chemicals
Like what?

>>8872015
Use google. Bye.

>>8871984
Supplements yes but not enough apparently
My BMI is 33.7

>>8872018
Google doesn't answer my question.

>>8872028
"I can't google the ingredients that are in my food"
Try again.

>>8872024
>Supplements yes but not enough apparently
You really need to get your daily dosage of that stuff to function properly. There was a fat guy that went over a year without eating, just water and vitamins.

Good luck on your weight loss though, it's good that you're trying.

>>8872031
>"I can't google the ingredients that are in my food"
Those don't show "waste chemicals" though, which is why I asked.

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Keto works great, once you start steadily losing and regularly track your progress the motivation to see the number drop even by a small decimal the next morning overcomes any desire to eat junk. Also, always weigh yourself at the same time that you wake up each morning, but expect to fluctuate and don't get discouraged if you think you did well but gained a pound or two instead of losing, it happens. Plateaus also happen which can be discouraging, but are easy to power through.

>>8871841
You didn't read the article. It's pretty unbiased. It brings up a lot of points about the changes in carbohydrate quality over 100 years. Dietary fat, protein and whole grain carbohydrates with intact fiber appear to have nothing to do with obesity, diabetes and heart disease, yet increased consumption of refined carbohydrates (fructose in particular) appear to have a damning correlation to the diseases.

I'm always wondering what you are. Do you work for General Mills or something, or are you just a regular person with an ordinary case of confirmation bias that can't absorb new information if it doesn't fit in with your worldview. I mean, I don't really care, nor do I care about "winning" on the internet. I guess I'm saying you impress me somehow. Well have a nice day.

>>8872088
The ketofags seem like reactionary retards from a certain perspective until you consider that it's nearly impossible to find very many high quality, intact sources of carbohydrates in the Western world at this time. Then they suddenly seem very sensible. Protein, fat, vegetables, some fruit. There's nothing weird or freaky about that kind of diet. There's always a guy on the internet that spergs about people eating less-processed foods.

>>8872088
>You didn't read the article.
You neither read the study, nor my response.

>yet increased consumption of refined carbohydrates (fructose in particular) appear to have a damning correlation to the diseases.
The beta coefficient for corn syrup was 0.013 with a very borderline significance. The beta coefficient for fiber was -14 with huge significance. 0.013 is NOTHING. Literally 1000 times smaller than the value for fiber. If you call that a "damning correlation" you are scientifically illiterate and should stop attempting to be a PubMed warrior.

The study didn't analyze "refined carbohydrates", it only looked at corn syrup - which is stupid in itself because a proper study would look at all nutritive sweetners (i.e. sucrose)

The main takeaway of the study is what we already know - diabetes is almost entirely explained by obesity.

And there's no such thing as a "damning correlation".

>Dietary fat, protein and whole grain carbohydrates with intact fiber appear to have nothing to do with obesity
>hurr
Dietary fat had the greatest positive correlation with obesity and the resulting diabetes among everything studied in the whole paper.

>>8870358
>eating 1600 calories a day and being full all the fucking time.

I don't feel full all the time but I am definitely not feeling the ravenous hunger I usually get when I am consuming carbs. Tbh, I mostly feel some weird combination of indigestion and stomach discomfort. Hard to explain. It's not bad though. M

>>8872124
>diabetes is almost entirely explained by obesity.
And the best diet to stop being obese is keto and therefore your whole """argument""" is retarded, grain jew.

>>8872124
If the rise in obesity coincides with an increase of calories (from refined carbohydrates), as well as a decrease in the percentage of fat and protein, how do you arrive at the conclusion that dietary fat is the cause of the increase in obesity? Unlike you, I actually have the desire to change my mind when presented with information. I would appreciate if you read the article and explained it to me without being a dick.

>>8872161
Well if you look at graphs in that study with the really old data points from 1900ish, people were eating high carb diets, yet not fatter. Sure they had more physical jobs and shit, but they also didn't have our super-processed refined wheat flours which completely jank up your insulin levels from lack of fiber.

>>8871533
>I didn't do the diet right because I'm retarded, so it's shit

>>8872181
>>8872161
you are both retards. obesity isn't even the issue. you are underestimating just how fucking sedentary these people are. you probably aren't even capable of conceptualizing how little effort these people exert. remember, these are the same people that have atrophied their muscles so much and gained so much weight that they can not walk. they can't bend over to pick something up. these people aren't human. diabetes has more to do with glucose metabolism which is a function of muscle mass and overall activity

>>8872181
Meaning the obesity issue probably isn't so simple as fat-bad or carb-bad. There's the whole dietary fiber, glycemic load, exercise, changing ethnic makeup of populations. Yet, I do agree with you on the shilling thing. If people are finding a method to lose weight and have better health stats, why would you fucking care? What other motive can be at play besides wanting people to be fat?

>>8871866
It's simple don't eat more then 30 carbs a day. And get most of your cals from fat. Also supplement salt magnesium and potassium for the first few weeks.

>>8872204
What qualifies as fat and can I have any kind of sugars?

>>8872197
Wait, so are you the person saying above that the obesity thing isn't the strongest correlative factor with type 2 diabetes? Who are you talking about being fat and lazy? I eat very low carb and I am very fit and active. It looks like several other posters are similar. Are you complaining that obese people are successfully losing weight by changing their diets? I'm confused here about why you're calling people retarded.

>>8872181
>Sure they had more physical jobs and shit
huh wow

>>8872204
>magnesium
This is important. I've done ket o a few times over theyears and never got the 'keto flu' in the first week. I'm doing it now and started last week and felt like absolute shit on day three, headaches and drowsiness and just feeling like shit. I took 3 magnesium tablets and almost instantly felt better for the rest of the day.

>>8872228
no, this was my first post in this thread. i am calling you guys retards because you are arguing over completely pointless studies. the composition of the diet doesn't matter. what matters is these people are killing themselves by being sedentary and obese. being obese in itself isn't inherently a bad thing

>>8872173
I'm not referring to the discussion segment of the paper, just the study itself, which found the strongest correlation between dietary fat and diabetes - a correlation which is accounted for by the correlation between dietary fat and energy intake. High energy intake = obesity = diabetes.

The correlation between HFCS and diabetes was TINY after accounting for energy intake (obesity), basically irrelevant. So obesity = diabetes is the main thing that matters, and obesity results from excess calorie intake.

The cause of the increase in obesity is not the primary subject of the study, but I never said that it's due to "dietary fat". The rise in obesity coincides with lots of things and it's not due to any one macronutrient or any one cause. Americans have been consuming a high-fat diet for well over half a century and they didn't stop when the government told them to.

>>8872238
So readily available, extremely calorie dense food that spikes insulin levels, increases lethargy and hunger has nothing to do with being overweight in the modern world of long office job hours and suburban isolation from work and errands?

>>8872260
I believe it does indicate that the difference in overall caloric intake and macronutrient proportions was accounted for. Again, if for whatever reason, people are finding it much easier to not overeat on a high fat diet and pull themselves out of the obesity range, why does it matter so much to you? They really did stop eating high fat diets in the 90's though, just like the government told them to. All the calories were replaced with highly refined carbs, and look at us now. It's all snack cakes, soda and french fries. And wouldn't you know, people are fat sugar junkies.

>>8872283
The only thin Americans I know who eat high carb, low fat diets are exercise anorexics who do 3 or more hours of intense cardio daily.

>>8872264
yeah that has nothing to do with it. people are just lazy retards which is why im saying this argument is pointless

>>8872283
>for whatever reason, people are finding it much easier to not overeat on a high fat diet
Americans are on a high-fat diet and are overeating so this does not really check out. Americans eat a lot of high-fat junk food that is easy to overeat. This leads to obesity.

>They really did stop eating high fat diets in the 90's though
No, most Americans have a higher fat intake than what guidelines recommend. They also consume too much fat on average, and too much saturated fat.

>All the calories were replaced with highly refined carbs
No, additional junk food was added to an already unhealthy diet. Fat was never replaced because fat consumption never went down. However, Americans did start consuming ungodly amounts of refined added fat (oil), which is the opposite of what the government recommended. They also increased their sugar consumption by 30%, which is also the opposite of what the government recommended. Sugar consumption is now almost back down to 1960s levels and people haven't magically stopped being obese. Surprise.

>snack cakes, soda and french fries.
Cakes and fries are high-fat, low-carbohydrate foods. Just FYI. Soda is a high-carbohydrate food, but not actually a major contributor to the American calorie balance.

>And wouldn't you know, people are fat sugar junkies.
Americans are junk food and restaurant food junkies with a low carbohydrate intake and a high intake of sugar and fat.

>>8872319
>Americans are on a high-fat diet
High-fat, high-carbs. Cut one out, done.

>>8872321
Well Americans do eat too much food because they are obese or on the way there. Compared to most of humanity, Americans have a low intake of carbohydrates as a proportion of their total diet, and a significant portion of that is just refined sugar. If you were to subtract the sugar from the total carbs, you could probably find school girls in Vietnam who eat more carbs than the average adult American fatty.

>>8871558
>Atkins is high protein
No Atkin is high fat with 60 - 70% or more of calories coming from good fats.

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>>8871832
>>8872124
>>8872319

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>>8872366
Notice how the guy is lean living off grains, unlike Americans living off of cheeseburgers and fried chicken?

>>8871436
Ketosis is a normal metabolic process, something your body does to keep working. When it doesn't have enough carbohydrates from food for your cells to burn for energy, it burns fat instead. As part of this process, it makes ketones.

If you're healthy and eating a balanced diet, your body controls how much fat it burns, and you don't normally make or use ketones. But when you cut way back on your calories or carbs, your body will switch to ketosis for energy. This is a great way to lose weight because you're eating enough calories and other nutrients to keep on living normally, you use your stored fat for energy, as your body is deprived of its normal ready-made fuel - carbs and sugars.

>>8872437
The body always uses stored fat for energy, but especially so in a calorie deficit. Ketosis has absolutely no advantages.
You also make it sound like the body does not use eaten fat for energy during ketosis. This is of course false. It is perfectly possible to gain weight in ketosis.

>>8872437
>This is a great way to lose weight because you're eating enough calories and other nutrients to keep on living normally

i don't think you understand how weight loss works. lol

>>8870700
Cutting out carbs doesn't mean your brain just starves. Your body can generate sugar from fats.

Keto is named after ketogenesis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenesis

>>8872456
Of course it's possible to gain weight in ketosis. It's not magic. Many people do find it easier to cut calories on a high fat diet though because it curbs their hunger by not using as much insulin to metabolize. Insulin production does make you hungry. Losing a lot of weight on a high carb diet often causes gallstones.

>>8872604
Insulin does not make you hungry, and the primary reason people lose weight on keto short-term is because they stop eating processed junk food and typically they start consuming more vegetables than was previously the case. The reason some people lose their appetite in ketosis is that ketosis is a state of illness that evolved to deal with starvation.

Any diet that totally removes processed junk food and adds vegetables will almost inevitably succeed at least temporarily.

It's true that weight loss on a low-fat low-calorie diet can cause gallstones, but this is easily preventable under medical supervision. But then again, a high-fat diet causes atherosclerosis and insulin resistance.

>>8872604
Blood sugar crashes several hours after eating refined carbohydrates as the insulin spike to metabolize it kicks in is part of the reason obese people get hungry so often. Over years of overeating franken-carbs with massive insulin spikes, they become insulin resistant. Tough cycle to break out of. Physiological-psychological death spiral.

>>8872627
correction: weight loss on low fat, high carb diet can cause gallstones

>>8872627
>But then again, a high-fat diet causes atherosclerosis
What's the weather like in the 70s, buddy?

>>8871691

shit bait

>>8872639
>dietary fat bad! fat causes arterial inflammation!
Wait now, who's in the 70's?
I'll give you trans fats.
Low fat diets do cause gallstones though.

>>8872702
>>dietary fat bad! fat causes arterial inflammation!
Where did I say that?

>>8872711
Where you sarcastically greentexted that a high-fat diet causes atherosclerosis.

>>8870366
isnt that just a friggin pancake?

flour, egg & milk or water??

>>8872729
I just cited the other guy

>>8871533
I'm not fat, but I did keto for hormonal issues. I'm finally menstruating naturally and my cholesterol is down. I also completely skipped the keto flu because I keep my electrolytes in check since I'm active. If you tried it and felt like crap, that's poor planning on your part.

>>8871843
>What can I have for breakfast for example?
Bacon and eggs are my go-to, but you can also do omlettes, keto cakes (pancakes made with eggs and cream cheese), waffles, french toast, etc. Essentially, stick to something simple if you're on the run. If you have time, you can pretty much make a keto version of anything.

>>8872219
Ideally, get your sugars from vegetables. If you'd like to make your own desserts, use sugar alcohols from fruit, like erythritol. It's not absorbed by the body and passes through your system. Eat high quality butter, heavy cream, etc. Just stay away from nut oils and margarine.

OP I have also been doing keto (started off with a limit of 40 g, after the first week I had no problem dropping it to 20 g) since January. I am down now from 291 to 234. It's crazy how many different things you can actually make and eat.

At first I tried to maintain a calorie deficit as well as macros, however, past the first week, I found I had trouble getting to 500 calories most days without feeling too full, let alone 1600.

OP do you have a recipe for those low carb tortillas you took a pic of? I've tried some coconut flour recipes, but mine never turn out great.

Basically the best way I've found how to explain it to colleagues and friends is that it's a low carb no additional sugar diet. They usually understand what that means.

Keep up the good work.

>>8872762
>>8872762

Does it really work? I have PCOS (I'm thin though). I really am tired of getting depo shots every 3 months.

>>8872629
>Blood sugar crashes several hours after eating refined carbohydrates as the insulin spike to metabolize it kicks in is part of the reason obese people get hungry so often
lol
How's the weather down there in the 90s, son? Still ignoring basic facts, it must be quite relaxing to be able to shape your own reality like that. Americans eat less carbohydrates than the vast majority of humanity? Who cares! They eat a lot of carbohydrates if I believe it to be so!

>>8872639
>falling for fake news

>>8872776
>high quality butter
lol

>>8872912
>unironically calling something fake news

>>8872891
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcT4K5KkTDE

>>8872891
It worked for me, and if you hang around the soulcysters forums, many have similar results. I have PCOS and hypothyroidism, diagnosed in my teens. My periods were nonexistent and there was build up in my uterine lining. I was very lucky if I had one period a year. I'm in my late 20s now and I'm finally menstruating without medication. I also ovulated for the first time two months ago. I've been doing keto for about 6 months now.

>>8872292
>>8872627
You both are absolutely fucking retarded and/or shills. KYS.

>>8872947

Thanks for this video. I pretty much already stick to a strict diet like this. So I'm not sure what else I can do. I was vegan for many many years... no improvement.

>>8872958

I'll see if it works out. I'm the same as you (no hypothyroid though) and it's just been such hell. Thanks for the tip.

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>>8870366
Those mission carb balance tortillas are a godsend. Just grilled these chicken thighs for fajitas.

I did keto for about 8 months, lost like 70 lbs. It works and is best for those who like to cook and experiment and can afford to do so. I've since transitioned into a low carb (about 50 grams per day) diet and its going very well

>>8873034
The insulin thing is honestly the most retarded thing in the world of nutrition. It's the career gimmick of David Ludwig, a Jewish clown who works at Harvard and thinks that potatoes are unhealthy. He wrote a shitty blog post masquerading as a book called "Always Hungry". Of course it got torn apart by people who actually know what the fuck they're talking about, like Stephan Guyenet who is certainly not a vegan or carb shill

>>8873040

>>8872958 again. I was also vegetarian (and then vegan) for many years. It just made me feel run down and I didn't see any progress. One big thing about PCOS is that you can develop insulin resistance and even a small amount of carbs will make you feel terrible, which will make your symptoms worse. There's a woman called Healthful Pursuit on Youtube that talks at length about such issues.

All I know is lots of meat will make your neck muscles salty. Do preventative massages, salt humps are REALLY painful.

>>8873047
What can you order out? I can barely cook, have no kitchen

>>8873744
You can always buy a burger and get rid of the bun. Even better if you can top it with bacon.

>>8873744
Not a lot, to be honest. Keto would be very difficult for someone in your situation. Hot wings are one of the main items I order out while on keto

>WOA BRAH CHECK OUT THIS TOTALLY NEW RADICALLY DIFFERENT LOW CARB DIET!!!

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>>8870358
How did you decide not to go paleo localvore? Makes more sense to me. Eliminate the grain jew and focus on meats, vegetables, fruits and fungi growing in your area at the correct season. That's the way we have lived for all but a tiny percent of our time. Keto always strikes me as a pale image of paleo.

>>8874231
>paleo localvore

memed hard

>>8874252
>memed, whatever the fuck that means.

No, just sensible my keto friend. The region you live in and the environment you interact with, are far more important than the books and mass produced food baring your god's name. Paleo eliminates the grain jew too.

>>8870358
I just decided I want to try doing the Keto diet myself on my next grocery run. The only problem is that I'm having a really difficult time coming up with different meals I could eat.. I know about cauliflower rice, so I can make that into stir-fry, I can makes soups, salads, eggs.... And well that's about all I can think of. I guess I could do like, lettuce wraps or something like that. Idk, man. I'm not really even over-weight, I'm only 174 so should I even be doing this at all? I guess I'd like to get down to 160ish is my goal. Can anyone suggest some good keto meals to me?

>>8870699

This looks amazing actually. What kind of meat was it?