al/ck/

>>8862503
12 days sober and all i can think about is booze. I keep thinking i should just go buy a beer. One beer can't hurt.

Gotta stay strong.

I got really drunk last night and broke down. I called in to work. I think it's time for me to stop

>>8862503
don't do it
It'll be more fun with other people after that long break and you don't want to get back into the habit of drinking alone

>>8862577
i went into work hungover today. wasnt fun. i dont binge drink during the week, but i got sad and just kept drinking.

I lost my last job from drinking and I have an interview. The job is related to my field and I'm not sure I can get a reference. Any advice? Not sure if I should keep quiet..? I wasn't fired but I quit without notice to go on a bender... It lasted a month..

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Question.

Are you al/ck/os regular /ck/ posters outside of these threads? Or do you all come from other boards and just convene here to discuss alcoholism? What boards do you come from? I'm not mad since the 4chan AA meetings have been here since forever, just curious.

>>8862612
post on /ck/ out of this thread and I only come to this board

>>8862612
Poster above. I go on b, x, his, pol mostly. I don't even like anime

>>8862612
lurk on /ck/ and only post on this thread. i regular /x/ /his/ /fit/ and /pol/. if i have an obscure feel i will post in on /r9k/ for the other sadbois

I ran out of weed and can't stop drinking beer when I get home from work. Friday I'll balance out again.

I post on other threads and enjoy cooking, but I'm mainly here for al/ck/. I can't stand the right wing know-it-all kids on most other boards, /pol/'s influence is too toe-curling, but I'll occasionally use /wsg/, /x/ or /biz/.

>>8862612

OP here. I post on /ck/ but I don't really cook much for myself, so I try to lurk and not post shitty fast food threads. I actually don't use al/ck/ a lot, but have been while sober, ironically.

But my home boards are /adv/ and /co/. I try to post on /biz/ whenever I can find a decent topic that isn't involving cryptocurrency.

>>8862612
/ck/ and /x/
I go to the two most retarded boards to ensure they're not getting too stupid to think straight.
4410 Days on 4chan and I want off the ride. /b/ Is dead to me, I don't want to look at cocks all fucking day.

>>8862517
Please do stay strong. Ive been trying to stop for a while. Its so hard. I just want a buzz

>>8862602
Come up with some excuse. Like you had personal issues and felt the need to deal with them or some shit

>>8862647
Ikr. There's SO MUCH gay shit on all nsfw boards nowadays, I don't bother with any of them any more, it just pisses me off being hit with an avalanche of faggotry.

Literal faggotry. Dick rate, incest, traps..
Iike fuck give it a rest for 10 seconds

>>8862666
The one guy has been posting the 'waifu claiming thread' religiously every day since 2010 or 2011 on /b/.
That's what pushed me over the edge. The fact that he has never suffered a single ban or had a single thread moved. It wasn't even the dicks I saw all day, which I calculated to be 44.3 miles over 10 years. 44.3 Miles of dick I saw and waifu claiming guy pissed me off so bad that I left. Really makes you think.

The calculation was accurate to 6.5 inches per dick and 75 dicks per day, roughly.

>>8862721
7 inches per dick at 11 years*
I'm having trouble remembering all the miles of dick I've seen apparently but this should be more accurate.

>>8862612
/fit/, /g/ and /porn/ here although I'll lurk in /ck/ for the lol/webm threads.

>>8862612
/fit/ /b/ /gif/ /wsg/ and here now. Fell in love with /ck/ when I first discovered the al/ck/ threads. Stopped feeling like I was alone in my situation

>>8862751
I got it!
100 Dicks per day at 7 inches per day, 10 years, 2 leap years, this equals 40.3 miles of dick.
Quite an achievement to witness this.

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>>8862721

Why, did he claim your waifu?

>>8862612
i lurk and post on a lot of different boards, but mostly /v/ /tv/ and /g/. used to mainly browse /b/ years ago, but after taking a break during chanology shit and coming back a few years ago, /b/ somehow seems way shittier. been so long that i don't have any of my old /b/ shit to tell if that's actually true or not.

>>8862809
40.3 MILES OF DICK

>>8862647
you're 30 years old on 4chan? jesus christ man get a life

>>8863422
I am 25. I grew up ddosing, raiding habbo and sending shit to people's houses. It was fun. I managed to avoid millennial retardation by staying productive here.
I will be here when I'm 30 just soi can say I've been here longer than you've lived, newfag. Eat shit.

>>8863422
Its the kids who need to leave, it's not the adults shitting the place up. I'm not far off 40 and I love /ck/.
In other news, I had a whole entire 25 minutes sleep last night, before those fucking horrific, vivid as hell withdrawal nightmares had me sat bolt upright, drenched in sweat. The lack of sleep is near unbearable.

>>8862612
/tg/, /b/, /v/ as a SFW /b/, /ck/, /co/, /g/, and most other ones that allow a fun but not unpleasant degree of shitposting.

I'm no stranger to drinking; in fact I'm drunk right now, but...I MUST KNOW THIS. What is the connection between /ck/ and alcoholism? I get around on other boards, but nobody does this like /ck/...is it the industry? I would think bar peeps would be more in that rut...Most chefs I know are either drunks or totally sober...so why the massive fluctuation?

Sloppy guys who break shit and have a firearm coming out at some point, or massively tattooed coffee snorting, bearded chain smokers...I'm not that deep in the game and confused...can someone break it down? I like to drink and cook...but I'm always on time to work and never fuck off like a degenerate prick fuck and hurt business and/or the establishment or the general image...

Help me understand the struggle

>>8863517
i dont know, a lot of my co-workers are drunks and we're all cooks as well. im the baker actually, and we all do well too
actually i know plenty of bar-tenders who are not, in fact, drunks
it's weird, i can pass out the night before and work just fine in the morning

Gave a presentation I've been preparing for weeks at work today, fuck it, even if I have to go in tomorrow. Icehouse because I'm cheap as fuck

>internet goes out, probably for 24 hours
>as introvert neet first urge is to climb into bottle out of boredom
>pop some ritalin and have an engaging history discussion with friends on phone data instead

somebody post a happy wojak i have no reaction images on mobile

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>>8863541

>>8863552
close enough thank you anon

as a sidenote lurking this thread for a few months it seems like everybody is middle class or wealthy, older than most of 4chan, and generally in more prestigious lines of work. are there any blue collar anons or does alcoholism these days mostly attract people taking the load off from the daily boardroom meeting or what have you?

>>8862721
Why would it get moved/banned? It's /b/, the point is that anything goes.

>>8863566
eh im 25 so i dont know if working as a baker in a small place is too lame, im fine with it, i love what i do
i made the mistake of falling for the culinary school meme, so here i am

>>8862612
I post on /ck/ and to a lesser degree, /a/, /fit/, /int/, /sci/ and /lit/

But I mostly just come to this website for the al/ck/ threads now.

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>>8863457
Felt that last week. 3 days straight. Drank and haven't stopped. They're gone. Quitting is hard as fuck

>>8863568
>same thread for over 2700 days
>why would it get moved

Would you move a McChicken thread to /trash/ after 7 years of the same thing?

The /div/ faggots on /x/ are getting up to the same shit. It's fucking sickening, that's why it needs a ban.

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>tfw still sober

First sober night in awhile. I still had a couple beers though. Hopefully I can sleep and don't have nightmares. I really wanna cut down but it's hard... especially when you start getting the anxiety/paranoia the day after.

>>8863583
You seem to miss my point, the difference between /b/ and other boards. /b/ is the random board. Basically anything is allowed, that's the point.

>>8862721
>/b/
>moderation
>not expecting an ocean of dicks
you played yourself, my man

>>8863572
Almost fell for the culinary achool meme till i learned about the 14 hour workdays and the substance abuse people do to cope. Bad news is whole family knows I wanna learn to cook and is linking me schools for it when I just wanna make a nice pan sauce at home, learn the basics to cook for myself. Being a baker sounds great, is it more chill than other food work?

>>8863589
I left because "anything goes" can obviously go too far. And all the threads are the exact same, day after day, kind of like this board.

There's just no miles of dick to look at here so it's tolerable.

>>8863596
i guess it is, i dont come out looking as miserable as the cook, but you need presicion if you want to get shit done right
still, le cordon bleu makes me fucking tired, all my classmates are fresh-off-school snobby dumb cunts and i hate depending on them,i feel alienated. i used to be an extremely social person, but now i reeeeee at the idea of seeing my classmates and prefer to come to 4chan and talk to anons in my drunken nights
whereas at work i feel like im with my people, even though we're not really close friends, i dont know.
i cant even leave school because i'm in last semester and there has been a lot of money wasted on it already

>>8863517
i'm not too sure honestly. i'm just an alcoholic who loves food. most of the times i don't eat, but i still love to look at pictures of it, read about it, etc. i have also always enjoyed cooking. one of the happiest most enjoyable things i do in life is grilling while drunk. theres just something about it. also.. the only time i really eat or get hungry is while drunk, so i just love to black out, shit post, and read all the funny things anons say on here.

>>8863606
I just don't see why you think the mods should do anything when the point of the board is the lack of heavy moderation.

Got really drunk last night and texted a bunch of people just before blacking out.
>asked one girl to date
>asked one to fuck
>told one friend I'm depressed
>told another my distrust for women

I've gotta sort my shit out.

>>8862612
I used to go on /b/, /sci/, /soc/, now mainly go to /news/, /diy/, and porn boards.
/ck/ has been home board the longest, and where is I post the most, in al/ck/ threads or not.

>>8863606
/b/ is literally filled with newfags, as every oldfag left /b/

>>8863895
Did you try to enact this "fuck one, marry one, kill one" meme?

>>8863951
>Did you try to enact this "fuck one, marry one, kill one" meme?
No, but I can see why it looks that way lol. Either way I struck out on both so maybe I'll just kill both and be 1/3 successful.

>>8862612
I post on /ck/ outside of here, other boards are /pol/ /fit/ /o/ and very occasionally /r9k/

>>8862612
/ck/ mostly. /pol/ and /fit/ once in awhile. Been a co/ck/ since 2010? Idk whenever that guy posted about slaughtering the deer in his tub

when will I finally be drunk enough to kill myself

>>8862612
These days it's mostly /ck/, /r9k/, and /pol/.

Ask me this question 5 or 10 years ago and you would get vastly different answers.

I took a few hydrocodones that I was prescribed for pain on top of drinking pretty heavily, every time I stretch it really hurts my kidneys and im worried I've done some irreversible damage.

I don't understand how you chubby drinkers deal with nausea and vomitting.

Each time i feel like i potentially COULD vomit i pop two Motiliums. I fucking despise vomiting to the point of instinctive fear. It's the way the body express that you fucked up.

sober 3 days

have a good 24 anons

>Blacked out drunk yesterday
>Wake up
>Apparently I had emailed a signed copy to the uni saying I'm dropping out
>They accepted it

what the hell have i done

>>8864259
Damn anon, that's fucked. Probably.
Use your spare time to get into Alan watts. Maybe it's the best thing you ever did.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OX0OARBqBp0

>>8864142
Drink water you'll be fine

>>8862612
My main is /tv/. I go to ck, pol, r9k, x, lit, g, v, mu as well as /porn/.

>>8864259
welcome to neet niqqa

If i drink enough to actually be drunk i also have go sleep for almost the entire next day cause ofnthe hangover. Just not worth it anymore. Drank 12 beers Tuesday night and spent all day sleeping Wednesday. I just like waking up feeling good lately so been cutting down.

If you occasionally get drunk it sucks, you have to be drunk every night and then hangover goes away, def a losing situation.

>>8864382
I can't sleep for more than 4-5 hours these days whether I'm drunk or sober, and sometimes I don't think I sleep at all.
I can go to sleep if I get wasted, but I avoid that because the backlash of so much alcohol will have me drinking in the morning to stave it off.

Six months sober

Had a couple year long sober streaks before this time, always relapsed and eventually wound up in ER then psych ward

Hope it sticks this time

I don't miss the hangovers or shakes or panic or bloating and weight gain

Unfortunately the life problems and depression are still around, they don't go away...even after a year sobriety I was still dealing with that shit

>>8864465
>Tfw I have brain problems
>I either take my medication (Seroquel), sleep for 10-12 hours, and wake up feeling tired
>Or I don't take my medication, get hella manic, sleep for maybe 4 hours a night and wake up feeling fucking amazing

Seroquel is nice when I'm feeling extremely depressed though.
>Get wasted
>Decide that the next day is just a write off
>Take a couple extra pills
>Sleep for 18 hours

>>8864514
Back in my teen years before I started drinking and then later taking an ssri, I used to be able to sleep for 12 hours straight and I loved it every single time. I miss the ability to do that, but I guess I'm better off now naturally sleeping less because of work.

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>>8863895
Happens to the best of us. Last weekend I went on a weekend binge. Forgot almost every conversation I had with someone. No one has mentioned anything so I feel like I passed out fine or people feel bad for me and choose not to mention it.

>>8864642
>people feel bad for me and choose not to mention it.

tfw it's so normal for you to get drunk and make an ass of yourself that your friends just stop bringing it up.

>>8864656
Just got to stop caring, anon. I make a complete penis out of myself several times a week, up to and including to the point of having members of the public leave their houses/come out of shops/restaurants to watch the crazy drunk guy, before waking up in a cell. Again. After all these years of this nightmare i refuse to let myself care what alcohol makes me do. I just get drunk again and forget.

>>8864726

Are you the guy who got the 30 people crowd watching you?
Story time pl0x

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>>8864763
It's too depressing to think about while sober, only just avoided prison last time, and too hard to type it all once I'm wrecked. I'll post a few one day.

>>8863596
>Being a baker sounds great, is it more chill than other food work
Depends where you work but at lot of bakers have to come in to work at like 4 am

>>8863566
I sit in an office alone all day with barely any work to do and the work I do need to do I just procrastinate with. I usually drink at work out of boredom or drink at home after work to cope with all the existential bullshit I think about at work.

>>8864259
Any recollection of why you did it? I do all sorts of stupid shit while drunk. Last fuck up was spending 2 grand on weed grow op equipment, never using it and selling it at a loss of 1.4k, still unopened.

>>8865351

Absolutely no clue whatsoever
I don't even know what to do, just drinking right now and trying to keep my mind occupied
There's no way I can get back in for another few years since it's their rules, once you're out, you have to wait some years to get back in
I'm basically screwed, guess I'll have to start looking for a job soon

how do people live with blackouts
I think I've only had maybe one of those zap-awake-holy-shit-where-am-I-what-have-I-done blackouts in my young life, and I came to on the bathroom floor of this chick's apartment curled around the toilet and wearing her roommate's clothes.

That shit TERRIFIES me.

>>8865397
Back in uni I used to get wasted out of my mind where I'd be throwing glass bottles into the wall in the basement and screaming and destroying old furniture down there, but I never blacked out.
All these other kids were talking about how they blacked out and couldn't remember shit from last night but that never happened to me and I drank more than everyone except my 2 friends who could match me.

>>8865397
>how?
Pretty much just drink more and cling on for dear life.

>>8862612
/cgl/, /co/, /ck/, boards like that.

Is it true that alcohol will only make you do things you wanted to do but restrained yourself from while sober?

>>8862612
I spend most of my time on /a/, /k/ and /v/. /ck/ and /tv/ are my go to for lurking and I use /gif/ when I can't think of any porn to watch.

I also occasionally get drunk and robo post on/r9k/. That's what I'm most ashamed about.

>>8865595
I'd say absolutely. I usually do all my house cleaning when I'm drunk because I feel motivated to do it.

Also when I was drunk the other night I signed up for a cooking class, asked a girl out over text, tried learning some Japanese and invited my 75 year old coworker to go to a bar next week. The next day when I sobered up I cancelled all of that, even the date.

i am a stay at home neet so blackouts arent dangerous or risky for me, but knowing about them after the fact is gross and unsettling. like i got taken over by a pod person. i blacked out last week and apparently just alternated between crying and saying pure gibberish for 3 hours, then went to sleep. did it in a froup call with some internet friends and it was pretty fucking embarrassing to learn about after the fact.

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Just started detoxing at home yesterday. Gf doesn't more I started drinking again (more like never stopped) I'm hopeful this time is for real, but I did this 2 months ago and fell off within 7 days.

I've slept about 16 hours in the past day. My bones are killing me, I already went thru DTs and my liver feels sore. But I think I'm gonna make it, these worse my detox is, the less I feel like relapsing.

I've been sober over a year 2 different times. In 2016 I was sober 3 months.

My 4th major relapse was in July after I got out of rehab. If I ever drink again, I honestly deserve death.

Luckily I just quit this time because I'm tired. One time was because of jail, one because gf threatened to leave, one for rehab. This one honestly feels like I'm fucking tired.


The shitty thing is I'm probably going to have to return to AA in some capacity, I'm really dreading that.

Anyway, I know it's a long boring post, but I have to tell someone. Wish me luck, /ck/

>>8865386
Community college nukka

>>8865653
how many people find escaping alcoholism harder than it should be simply because AA sucks as hard as it does. especially with that higher power garbage.

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>>8864656
Thing is, ive been binge drinking on and off since September with a few days here or there and not once has anyone mentioned anything I've said or done. So I may be over thinking it and just talk when I'm drunk

>>8865664
Me. I dont believe I'm an alcoholic but I am starting to see early signs of it. I drink for the same reasons everyday.
>>me and baby momma fight
>>I get sad about all the friends ive lost cause of her
>>realize my life is getting wasted away

>>8865650
>i am a stay at home neet
hey me too brother

>>8865664

I've been told about refuge recovery and SMART recovery, but haven't tried it because the only meetings are 2 cities away. One's agnostic and the other is Buddhist. I really dislike AA even tho it kept me sober.

>>8865664

yeah id just go to AA drunk as fuck. id just sit there and keep quiet and walk out as soon as it was over

I hated it

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>>8865664
My brother wanted my family to go to one of his meetings a few years ago and I found the whole thing very cringy. It felt like this one Christian version of boy scouts I got invited to once.

They try to do shit like pic related and it comes off as melodramatic and unproductive.

>>8862503
Never ever drink on your own. It's a great rule of thumb.

You'll have your fun another day, do something like read a good book, have a cup of tea with it if that's your thing.

>>8865397
i can only sleep if i drink until i pass out

What's your all's favorite cheap/broke drink

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>>8865902

I make my own booze.

>>8865902
all i drink nowadays is 5 dollar local vodka

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>>8862503

for me...

Anyone want to go cold turkey with me? I'm going to start the day after tomorrow (Saturday). Always in these threads. Hands up if you feel like you're in a stable enough place to give it a go.

>>8865902
steel reserve, but i have to watch out because a beer that tastes like beer but with wine ABV is risky as fuck. im the stay at home neet who mentioned blacking out earlier and what did it was 3 steel reserve tallboys in an hour and a half. may not sound like much to the smirnoff buttchuggers in here but im 5'4" and weigh 140 so thats my excuse.

>>8862612
/ck/ is my main board, I post pretty regularly outside these threads. I also mostly browse /a/, /s4s/, /vp/, and /x/.

>>8865922
im on day 3. im fucking miserable.

18-20 shots a day to nothing. it sucks.

>>8865935
In my experience, you're nearly passed the worst of it. Typically all have two absolutely horrific days filled with too many symptoms to list, then around a week of waking up soaked in sweat, having absurdly vivid nightmares and generally feeling frantically panicked. After that, the boredom and depression begins to hit, but I'll be past the worst. Good luck mang. Hope to be at the 3 day mark myself by Monday.

>>8865922
>>8865935
can't you die from this

>>8865954
>passed
*past.
>typically all
*typically I'll
>Siri isn't a cunt
*is

>>8865957
Yeah, but you are more likely to die from alcoholism if you don't stop, and tapering simply doesn't work for me.

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>>8862503
stay strong, i had 3 months sober, thought i was in a good space and could enjoy some casual drinks with friends, well 1 month later i'm back at the beginning, sinking, spinning.

>>8865909
Have you done it before? What's it like?
I tried to make my own vodka once. It came out as a gritty, pure-black sludge. Tasted like DEATH, but got me properly slaughtered.

>>8865957

yeah you can. I was going to go to the hospital but they'd just give me benzos and I don't want that because I was really addicted to valium a few years back

I was scratching my body like crazy, head to toe, ice cold then hot, sweating, couldn't sleep, mouth drier than the desert, piss brown

it was hell. hopefully I stay sober this time.. but I already want to drink. Not tonight, man.

>>8865980
jesus dude
you didn't even distill it?

>>8865990
Can't remember, this was like 20 years ago. I think I did what the instructions told me to, but I stuck to triple filtered pro stuff after that rather harrowing experience. I practically had to eat it with a spoon.

>>8865998
>tfw you'll never be so hardcore you eat black vodka sludge with a spoon

>>8865664
I found AA repulsive and useless.

>>8865980

115L of water
30Kg Sugar
1326ml tomato paste (8.5cans)
5tsp Citric Acid
380g Yeast
1 tsp Epsom salt
2 campden tablets in water

Is the final Birdwatchers Sugar Wash recipe. It ferments to dry in 5 days. It sits around 13% alcohol and from that you distill it in your still.

>>8866048
Thanks anon, if I wasn't so determined to try quitting very soon, I'd be buying the relevant bits on eBay right now to give it a try myself.
What's it like? I mean don't get me wrong, I will drink basically anything, I've drunk prison booze, which is tomato ketchup mixed in a plastic bag with water, a piece of bread and some fruit juice, which is pissed on routinely to keep it warm. Now that, is not a classy or especially delicious tipple.

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>>8865664

>>8865664
>with that higher power garbage

People get too wrapped up in that. Use the group as your higher power, ffs. As an atheist I understand the repugnance of declaring a "god" but it isn't a requirement. Bill W., the founder, said use a fucking doorknob if it floats your boat.

Generally, the refusal to accept that condition comes from the all to familiar alcoholic method of looking for a reason not to change. Having pointed that out, you're responsible for your actions, not the perceived failure of a methodology which you don't even understand. You choose what relationship you want to have with alcohol, period.

>>8864886
I'm the same way. In an office alone with normally nothing to do. I meet with a few clients and do about 3 hours of work a day, sometimes I don't do any work and take a nap on the floor. It's easy to turn to drinking when you're just sitting in an office alone listening to the radio.

>>8866118
My friend had to do court ordered n.a. for awhile, and he said one of the dudes he was in there with chose "a big fat ass," as his higher power.

And that just strikes me as sensible.

drinking second bottle of wine right now

>>8866126

lmao

when I was in detox AA meetings, a group of dudes from meetings would come in and the guy talking was like

''use a fucking bird on a fence if it helps''

Drinking to the point of shitting blood about a dozen times a day again. I'm getting depressed. Last week, I went to a get together and got too fucking drunk for public. It's embarrassing. There's a girl I wanted to talk to there, but I was too sloppy to say much. I have to do better, but I'm not sure what to do. I only make it about a week sober before it goes right back to shit again.

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>>8865902
5€ per crate of 20 x 0,5L

Best cheap beer there is

>>8866148
Shift your addictions. Instead of alc, try opiates.

>>8866154
I've been there before. 240 mg of oxycodone for maintenance. I don't want to go down that road again.

>>8866077

The Low Wines are kinda gross. 65% alcohol in the first handle, 55% in the second, 1/3rd of a 60 at 40%.

They're sickening sweet and gross, but they get you really drunk really fast. Look up the esters created by distillation and you'll get what I'm saying.

>>8866154
Fuck that, opiates are a death sentence. Do uppers, you'll get that manic happiness and you'll be more productive.

>>8866167
Better to be a methhead than a drunkie 2bh

>>8866150
To all non-Germans, that is called "Paderborner Pennerbier", Paderborner (city of origin) bum-beer.
Are you drinking that right now fellow countryman? I didn't want to drink tonight, then took the bottle of cooking wine we had left and emptied it in 30min... now pondering if I should walk to the 24h store or not. Or drink the nasty limoncello my girl made.

>>8864514
Bro, you gotta pay back that sleep debt that's all. Also, lay awake in bed for a bit while thinking about a tasty breakfast then get up.

>>8865902
Easily this. £1.09 per 500ml @ 8.4%, doesn't taste anywhere near as bad as frosty jack's and it's a fairly pleasant buzz once you've got a few cans down.

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>>8866407
Forgot me deez pic.

>>8866181
> t. someone who knows nothing about meth

>>8866164
How much do you end up paying, all things considered? Do you do this as a hobby or just to save money?

>>8864149
>Motiliums
Puking is great. You've enjoyed the alcohol now you get to purge and have a lesser hangover or drink more
When I was younger it worked that way. Now my tolerance to alcohol is so high I rarely vomit and spend the next day sick instead

I need to stop drinking for a while.
These fucking alcoshits are killing me

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>>8866407
>frosty jack's
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FgSOzxzkwEs

Long time gaming friend died in a motorcycle crash. Given that I met him over ther internet, and only met him irl twice to grab some White Castle I don'lt feel like super shit. But I know when those late nights come and he isn't on I'll probably be unable to play without my boy there. And my grandmother had surgery, along with one of her brothers dying today also. Bad day boys

Drinking some Rum in m boy's honor. Gonna grab some white castle tomorrow as dumb as it sounds.

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Over the last 3 months my drinking has been limited to a healthy level, I've lost 20 pounds, I'm going to get engaged to a beautiful woman soon, and my career is flourishing. I thought I was going to kill myself 5 months ago. There's hope, my anon friends.

>>8866662
Don't think I've ever heard of moderation working before. Well done you. How much were you drinking before and for how long?

>>8866666
It was daily, maybe 8 or 9 drinks worth. Enough to make me a dullard at work and fucking diarrhea every morning. This was the case for about 5 years.

>>8863445
this is next level cringe. ten years from now people will brag about their dad being here in 2003.

>>8865397
the worst is waking up in the hospital

one second you're talking to some dude about doom metal and then BAM suddenly you're in a hospital bed with an iv up your arm and a cop sitting outside the door

would not recommend/10

>>8866666
Actually people seem to be able to moderate pretty well when they're treated with naltrexone.

>>8866716
>>8866666

Acamprosate had a significantly larger effect size than naltrexone on the maintenance of abstinence, and naltrexone had a larger effect size than acamprosate on the reduction of heavy drinking and craving. For naltrexone, requiring abstinence before the trial was associated with larger effect sizes for abstinence maintenance and reduced heavy drinking compared with placebo. For acamprosate, detoxification before medication administration was associated with better abstinence outcomes compared with placebo.

>>8866700
You are actually posting about how it's cool for some but not for others to be in a place like this

Grow up

>>8866145
See that does nothing but turn people off from the program. Its all ridiculous.

>>8866700
Kids pls go.

>>8865386
Go to the uni. Whoever is in charge. In person. Explain the situation. Tell them 100% the truth that you've got a drinking problem and you need help. And you really need to be on the course (make the case well for yourself, demonstrate your grades etc if possible) or it could send you into a lifelong dangerous spiral. They are humans and will appreciate the honesty.

It's worth a shot. Just make it clear from the off that you completely understand, with something like this, that there's no second chances

>>8866729

The thing is, it actually works though.

What you're doing is saying 'the idea behind this recovery method is dumb and that's why I'm still an alcoholic'

>>8866673
Im glad to hear the diarrhea never goes, i've started to enjoy the act so much i bring a book with me

try another day without etoh. just for today. and save tomorrow for tomorrow. if you have a long history of drinking, you now no longer know what its likke to be, say, 6 months sober. why not see how that feels? it does change as you progress. you may hate it. but you have nothing to lose, you can always pick up again. and dont go to fucking 12 step, its a cult. find a support group like rational recovery, or through a mental health clinic. get talking with others. ps aa does work for some, but no one should be sugesting it. if yuou are drawn to it, fine, i loved it for codependents anonymous.

>>8863588
if you ride out the anxiety and paranoia, then you know you can conquer pretty bad ass anxiety and paranoia. wouldnt that feel great? seriously, its worth a shot.

Guys, i;ve been drinking half a liter at night and half in the morning for the past 3 months. I dont see myself drinking more than these limits ive set myself but everynow and again ill top off with a few ipa s. Is this an unhealthyt lifestyle? during the dayu i worry about this

>>8867003
i drink a little bit less than that, been at it for years
yeah of course it's unhealthy, i get the shakes when i'm sober so i try to avoid so as much as possible
i cant sleep without passing out

>>8867003
a liter every day is an extremely unhealthy lifestyle. i strongly suggest you stop now, but since you'll probably go through withdrawal from the amount you are drinking.. you should taper off. people like you can't drink at all if you want to have a normal life. if you are drinking that amount throughout the day, every day, you are and always will be an alcoholic.

I'm seeing this girl and I'm growing more and more infatuated with her as she seems to be getting less and less attached to me
It's not growing love, I just really want to see her more often and I miss her a lot
I haven't felt this way in years, it's miserable
I don't think she's gonna stop seeing me any time soon but I get the feeling she's in it 90% for the sex. We have great sex. And I guess if it was only that I wouldn't be super bummed, I'd at least see her often enough to get over this infatuation. But we don't see each other much at all. I hate this. I haven't felt like this since high school. I hate it so much.

>>8867207
not him but i stopped drinking for three days after years of heavy drinking and i didnt die
i felt pretty anxious and went back to it quickly but didnt get any major symptoms

>>8867226
define heavy drinking, how many years?

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>>8862620
>>8862627
>>8862643
>>8864027
>>8864138
>>8864346
r9k babbies are not welcome on /pol/.

Hey guys I'm going to make a suggestion for my current alcky sufferers. Last drink was August 5th.

Take benzos. Xanax preferred. Up to 3-6mg a day after tolerance builds up with about 1.75L per day.

The benzo will allow you to continue to drink and get super fucked up. (. 4 back but still standing up right and being able to talk. At the same time the benzo won't allow you to remember a thing. Yeah you have great chances of death but hey, at least don't have almost any memories to worry about all the stupid shit you did, if I wanted to know what I really did I would need to go read all the police reports and incidents since I can't remember almost a single thing for 9 months of my life. And spotted for up to 2 years

And hey if you're super depressed it's a sure fire way to kill yourself faster.

Good luck guys!!

>>8867234

little less little more a liter of spirit a day for nine years
i dont know if that counts as heavy, but i think it's a little too much for my height and weight

>>8867226
ya i was just going off of my own personal experience. i was drinking a fifth a day for a few years, and when i tried to quit cold turkey i had horrible withdrawal, so i tapered off which lessened the symptoms, but they were still extremely unpleasant. i mainly just wanted to warn him of what could happen since it seemed that he was asking advice and hasn't ever drank like this in the past.

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I'm glad I am completely broke and can't afford booze. I feel great and less depressed. Been sober for two weeks and all I have been doing is excercising and I made some changes to my diet, so I can lose my beer belly. Hopefully, I do not relaspe this weekend because my sis is giving me 20 bucks for babysitting

>>8867248
good luck anon

>>8867248
i suggest you plan on something that you would like to buy with that money before you are paid (not alcohol, of course). if you have a plan in mind you'll hopefully be less impulsive which would lead to just going to the liquor store and blowing it all. btw... you look good! good luck

>>8867256
Yeah, I will probably just use it for gas. Poverty sucks anon

>>8867275
you just said it was great

>>8867238
You should probably try to quit soon anon or you're going to die :(

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>>8867286
this is anon right now

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>>8862503
>Devil on your shoulder edition

Who would be your devil?

>>8867248
congrats on being clean because of poverty and also JUST

>>8867290
eh, who wants to be old and uglier anyway? i cant do shit if i'm not at least tipsy, i work and put money on the table, if i die at least i did something with my life instead of being a whiny cunt like i was before

>>8865406

yeah, i think some people just dont get blackouts. ive never had one, even when i was abusing both benzos and alcohol

>>8867003

a liter of what? thats kind of important

>>8867317
I black out fairly easily, I think. But I'm aware at the time -- I just don't remember it later, if that makes sense.

>>8867328
Browning out

I think I have finally found the solution. I was drinking in the evenings mostly out of boredom, usually around a bottle of gin every 2 days. On a weekend or a day when I had nothing on I could easily drink a whole bottle. No withdrawals yet, but very close to going down the rabbit hole never to return.

Started going to the gym in the evenings for a couple of hours as of last Saturday and I haven't had a drink since. Get home around 10pm, have dinner, and by the time I have washed up etc I am ready for bed. Full sleep until about 7 - 8am and then up to face the day. Too tired to think about drinking when I get back. I think I am finally off this fucking ride

>Go to the nearest liquor store at 11am like every day
>Cashier says "Every day huh"

Fucking hell, I've read some of you saying this has happened to them but I thought it was just some meme
Welp, my daily walking distance just got longer
Why the fuck do they do that

>>8867629
They stopped saying anything to me after they realized I was going to buy 3-5 shitty 40s every day of my life until I die.
So about 5 years. Never gave a fuck, but it was embarrassing here and there. Maybe they're not allowed to say anything after I got an employee fired for mouthing off to my relatives about me buying beer.

Do not consider this a recommendation, as I wouldn't say I'm an alcoholic. It was only on LSD when I realised how easy it would be to become an alcohol addict (especially as I'm quite introverted). I have heard anecdotal evidence of it helping people to quit booze/smoking etc...

>>8867641
what
so LSD made you become an alcoholic or it scared you away from becoming one?

dude tjhrowimg up everywhere...

>>8867651
LSD makes alcohol extremely intolerable for quite a few days after consumption. You won't make it past two drinks and you'll end up smoking all your weed and cigarettes up.
It's a wasteful drug that turns you into a fiend on one end and intolerant of alcohol on the other end. Use very sparingly. And do not fucking listen to pink Floyd and dude woods lmao and waste such a rare substance on teenager level shit.

>>8867651
The latter (I hope), as I still do drink, but can moderate to a healthy point (being in uni makes it obvious how much other people drink [and they don't consider themselves alcoholics])

Basically I had a trip where I looked at all the spirits on my shelf and there was this insane dichotomy between them and the light outside my window (not in the religious sense, but most definitely good/bad ).

Also I formulated an idea that as an introvert, alcohol can be an escape from loneliness. However, simultaneously, if you are quite extroverted, you will likely end up in the same place, being the last one at the bar, or the person still ordering drinks after everyone else has had enough.

>>8867655
Are you speaking from experience?
>waste such a rare substance
It is not rare online.

Also I wouldn't say it gives intolerance of alcohol.

It's Friday night here and I was excited to drink with my buddies instead of myself. I called one of them up and I could hear one of my mates in the background but then he went quiet and the guy I called was all "I've got plans for tonight, sorry". I dunno what I've done wrong but I feel really fucking down.

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I feel your pain addict friends. I was a heroin addict for years. I'm on methadone now but I still feel the urge to do dope even after years clean.

I've always been told that addiction never really goes away, even after significant clean time. I think that's bullshit. I hate addicts thinking that they'll always be an addict and that it defines them. I hate that shit.

Group therapy is essential to alot of people, so it's really no wonder alcoholics of 4chan flock to these threads. You need peer support. While group therapy never really helped me, i understand its importance and encourage all of you to continue seeking help in your own ways.

What i do what you to be aware of though is that alcohol withdrawals CAN KILL. If you are a serious alcoholic and are planning on quitting, please seek a reputable detox center to help you. Alcohol withdrawals can and WILL kill you if you don't detox properly.

>>8867659
Yeah, my last batch was 1980s grateful dead LSD. It made me not want alcohol so I just played WoW, twitched, bothered the living shit out of rpers and smoked all my weed. Fun as fuck, even though I say not to waste it, we're all going to be on our puters anyways.

>>8867659
Wow, that sounds p cool

>>8867671
>>8867672
It is a substance that needs to be respected in its ability to alter your perceptions.

Everything in moderation is a phrase which I find can be applied to all food, drugs, social actions, etc etc.

>>8867670
Thanks Uther.

>>8867677
It put me in a dark mood the first round. The second through fifth times I lightened up, but round one was heavily mind altering. You have to be actively inebriated for years to have any idea what's coming or going on the first two you swallow.
I would never give it to someone that can't drink 20 beers and remain level headed. No inexperienced drug user deserves to be near the shit. I have witnessed at least one mind lost on hit 1 and nearly had to severely injure a man removing him from the house after a relative made the decision to give him one.
He went outside and started chucking massive rocks at the house, stripping and screaming, before running off into the dark. Not sure what happened to him. Must've been a good batch.

>>8867692
(a) It's important to be sure that it is indeed Lysergic Acid, not something else which might be applied to a blotter
(b) Set and setting are the most important variables, and bad trips happen because of uncomfortable/unfamiliar locations/people or preceding mental illness.
(c) It really should not be used by someone under the age of majority, probably even later (25)

As to
>I would never give it to someone that can't drink 20 beers and remain level headed.

I don't think that's a good way of putting it. Handling your shit is not just the amount of ethanol you can ingest. No way could I drink a whole six pack, lat alone 20 beers. I have handled LSD fine.

just started out. have been drunk every day for 2 months now. Feels good man

>>8867709
It was quite legit. We were explicitly told when we were getting nbomes. This was 35 year old grateful dead print LSD.
As to what dude took before he ran into the darkness, must've been the nbomes, I didn't ask or give him anything, just chased him out of the house.

>>8867207
Did you even read that post cmon

>>8867629
Call the owner and describe that person. He doesnt want employees hastling customers.

>>8867709
Not that guy but "real" LSD is a millennial concern, it was pretty easy to come by when I was growing up.

I tried it once and it was not for me. It helped me understand some truths that I would have been better off not understanding.

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Bought this for the first time and it ain't bad.
>>8862612
I come from time to time to /ck/ and I do post beyond al/ck/os threads. Along with /ck/, I'm mainly on /adv/, /his/, /int/, /tv/, /mu/, /lit/ and /v/.

Wtf man. For 3 days now, every sip of alcohol I drink makes me sneeze non-stop for like 15 minutes. Anyone else had this?

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Have any on you tried smoking alcohol? Would you recommend it? What are the pros/cons?

>>8868080
Does nothing for me, think it's for people with a low/normie tolerance.

>>8868081
Well how much does it take for you to get drunk?

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>that one drink that makes you feel nauseous just thinking about it

What's its name, al/ck/?

>>8868096

Dark and stormy.

>>8862503
drink up ya faggot

>>8868096
Whatever I drank the night before

>>8868096
Erdinger

>>8862612

This is literally the first time I've been on /ck/

>>8868094
60-90 units depending on whether I'm eating and sleeping throughout the day. Takes maybe 20 units to feel a distinct tipsyness.

>>8868096
>one
There are loads. MD2020, frosty jack's, all whiskeys, sambuca, sherry, cheap wine, etc etc.

>>8862612
I browse /ck/ a little bit but I mostly post on /a/. Been posting in al/ck/ for about a year.

>>8865397

Yeah I don't get it either, I always pass out before I black out.

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Trying to stop because I may or may not get a girlfriend, and wouldn't want her to know I have an alcohol problem.
Been drinking a 6 pack and 3/4 of a rum bottle everyday for almost 6 month straight. I need to stop ffs I'm only 21.
For the first time I didn't went to bed wasted yesterday, still drank some rum and some beer . I think I'll gradually decrease my consumption.
Perhaps in some time i'll be able to casually drink without getting drunk

>>8868152
Good luck anon, enjoy shitting solid again

>>8868096
Whiskey poured into an unfinished beer because of my brother's faggot frat bro coworkers who exploited 17 year old me by getting me half tanked and then giving me a 'bottomless beer' they would refill with whiskey whenever I went to take a piss which was a lot given my tiny bladder. Keep in mind, already drunk enough that I didn't know my beer was bottomless and turning into straight whiskey and let me tell you I got a sick satisfaction from horfing into that faggot Austin's awful toilet and his yard and into one of the ugly walmart statues on his porch and lemme tell you they probably wouldn't have been laughing if torturing a vulnerable minor had turned into manslaughter by alcohol poisoning but that implies they think far forward enough to stop working at a car wash and drinking while they drive. Anyway that's the only time I've ever drank enough to vomit and my second worst drink ever was the v8 the next morning which I also vomited up anyway Austin I hope you're enough of an alchy lowlife to be reading this thread this one's on you cheers

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Guys, I've been drinking 3 liters of 5% beer everyday for the past 6 years, how fucked am I? If I try to quit will I die?

>>8865664
>>8866118
My dad quit drinking by going to AA, his "higher power" was just his family. When you think about it "higher power" is just relative so anything more powerful than you qualifies. It basically just means "I can't do this by myself so I need someone else to pull me out of it."

i have no idea what day it is, i'm still drinking. jesus crist. playing tower unite. help me boys

>>8865711
Thankfully the AA meetings I went to, and it was a lot of them, never made me cringe. If it was that bad I probably would have just walked out.
The program still didn't do anything for me though, but that's because of how I am. I think it's a pretty good system that's basically the best they can do, and it really works for some people, it just wasn't my thing.

>>8868173
Everyone is different, nobody knows. Try it and see how ill you get, just make sure you have a stash of booze handy incase shit gets too real.

>>8862503
DON'T drink alone. NEVER do any kind of drug alone. You're simply guaranteed to be addicted in the worst way. While you're alone, you'll get all your dopamine and shit from the booze or weed or whatever. You'll subconsciously feel like you can only be happy when alone if you're on drugs.

Seriously, stay away from it. Best way to keep yourself from doing it is imagining what you would think of yourself if you were able to see yourself from the outside. Instead, do something you enjoy, why not go see a movie alone for once?

>>8867629
Teach that bitch a lesson and keep buying your shit there everyday and just stare them down while they ring it up. If you stop going to your place then they win. Don't do that to yourself.

>>8868246
>If they lose business then they win
Lol?

I realized I had been caught when my cashier started to call me by my first name. I dropped my spaghetti because she's pretty hot, but I managed to regain my composure and act normal and make the usual stupid small talk the next time

Being a cashier is an extremely boring job, they're just trying to make the day pass quicker

>>8867638
>got somebody fired
Fucking awesome. Fuck that faggot.

>>8868107
>60-90
Considering there are 26 units in a 70cl bottle of vodka, are you sure?

hey alc bros, dont know if anyone remembers.
I posted a couple days ago complaining about a job fair

got drunk entir time / passed out until now. woo

>>8868096
Tequila. I don't know how anyone can drink that stuff, it is fucking terrible

>>8868263
are you proud of yourself?

>>8868245
I always go to the movies alone since I graduated uni and my friends moved to different places. I used to bring a mickey of vodka in the theater every time, but then they literally built a bar in the theater so everyone can buy drinks and take them wherever they want.
Still it would be cheaper to sneak it in, but I just don't hassle with it anymore. It's pretty clutch.

>>8868249
>if they lose business then they win
I know what I said wasn't logical from that standpoint lol, but I was just saying a guy should just go wherever he wants and the people should just get used to it. That's their job.

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>>8868260
26.8 iirc, and yeah I'm sure.

>>8868286
Jesus man, how long have you sustained drinking on that level? I thought I was going to die when I made it to a litre bottle a day

>>8868286
Smirnoff bro? Is that you?

>>8868291
I don't really know desu, a few years, haven't been sober for nearly 1/4 century, my tolerance just goes up and up.
>>8868292
Hey anon

>>8868293
Glad to see you are still with us, gave us a scare a while back. How are things?

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>>8868301
Ah y'know, hell on earth, the norm. I was legit suicidal for a while, I wish I could stop drinking, but I really don't think I ever will. I don't know that I'll even bother trying any more, it's just too hellish. Got a nice buzz going on now, been drinking since 5am.
How about you anon? Still on this ride?

>>8868286
It's smirnoff guy he's back.

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>>8864259
you chose freedom

now sort yourself out

>>8868318
Man if you aren't suicidal any more then I suppose that is a plus. Hope it works out for you

Yeah I'm still here, being self employed and working from home means I can get away with being semi productive in the morning and then spend the rest of the day drinking. Sitting on a bottle of bourbon a day and a few beers, although I can feel my tolerance getting higher and higher.

Daily reminder that if you even get out of bed to get drunk you've graduated to alpha normie mode.

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>>8868338
> tfw you find a bottle you didn't know you had hidden down the side of your bed

>>8868286
Fuck sake recycle that. Maybe go to the bottle bank under cover of darkness, though.

>>8868286
Do you drink that shit straight or do you mix it?

>>8868367
I wonder how much water he drinks and what his meals are like.

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>>8863586
Stay strong brother. Still sober, no smoking or fapping here. I have eaten a little red meat though. Just keep remembering that alcohol is degenerate and that the Jews want you to be drunk.

>>8866007
Why live at all?

>>8868373
>implying the nazis didn't drink or smoke
lmaoing @ ur lyfe bro

>>8868371
Also curious

Smirnoff bro, please tell us more. What awaits us?

>>8868337
Tolerance is a bitch. I miss being a teen and being able to get utterly shitfaced on 10 units.
>>8868367
Nah I just chug from the bottle.
>>8868371
I drink a lot of water but only eat every 3-4 days. When I do eat though it's always quality meats, fresh veg and fresh fruits.
I should probably eat today. Ugh.

>>8868173
It would be extremely painful

>>8868373
facepalm.png

Just had surgery a couple weeks ago, nearly lost my kidney. I've been sober since I've developed complications over a year ago. I kinda regret drinking as much

>>8868393
I'm not even that guy but seriously get the fuck out of here right now.

>>8868419
/pol/ is embarrassingly bad. Running around screaming how awesome hitler was makes you look like an angry virgin brat. Shhh.
Also, no.

>>8862612
Maining /w/, /vg/, /sp/, I've only been on /ck/ for a handful of times but I kinda like it here

>>8868427
I don't even support Hitler or naziism, just stop being a bitch about it.

>>8866554
sorry for your loss, anon

raising a glass to you in your friend's honor

>>8868263
I 'member.

>>8868373
Again, Hitler was NOT a vegan hippie.
How can you possibly get that wrong? Are you confusing with Gandhi?

>>8868264
I hope you aren't drinking silver.

>>8868441
No. If someone is going to come and pollute these threads with toe-curling brat babble like 'the Jews want you to be drunk', they're gonna get called out on it. Keep it in /pol/ and in the playground.

>>8868373
I only came here to point out that Hitler was an avid coke user.

>>8868638
Are you jewish?

>>8868673
No. I just loathe /pol/. I'm gonna stop talking about it now, not letting their bullshit derail.

>stop drinking and start exercising for a month and some change
>now back to drinking every day and not moving
shidd

>>8868680
Ok, sorry I offended you.
Going to grab my 3rd tallboy of the day so far.

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>>8863895
>got blackout drunk at party with acquaintances
>tomorrow people are asking me if im ok since i was talking about killing myself
shit

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been working as a custodian for 9 months, big step down from any expectations I ever had. Stayed drunk before during and after work almost everyday the whole time.

get sober for a few days, start having a panic attack about my life. back in bed drinking

>>8868702
I worked in a store for a while and the drinking got so bad that I just had to quit before I got fired. Drinking on the job really sucks.

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>>8868096
fireball

>>8868729
store wouldn't be great. vacuuming and shit is doable though. I'm just scared one day I'll lay down beside the vacuum on the floor and not wake up until other people find me, possible with my pants pissed

>>8868096
Jack Daniels or pretty much any cheap tequila like Pancho Villa

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>>8868096

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>>8868680

>>8868560
No idea what it was, pretty cheap either way. Tasted absolutely terrible, I would rather drink vodka straight and that's saying something

>>8868813
maybe it was
VODQUILA

Seen some Jack Daniels distillers edition in my local shop for £20, is it significantly different / better than the normal stuff? Noticed it is 43% as opposed to 40%. Not a massive fan of the normal stuff but if this is good I might give it a go

>>8868817
Whatever the fuck it was it made me throw up all over the bathroom 5 minutes later. Hate it when that happens and I'm not even that drunk. Still, empty stomach made it easier to get drunk for the rest of the night so it's not all bad

>>8868096
Anything honey flavored, it was the last thing I drank the only time I was ever in fear for my life from drinking, I met my gf that night though so it's not all bad.

>>8868813
Was it clear?

>>8868638
>called out
Hi there, Tumblr. Are you a little lost?

>>8863895
Apparently when I got drunk on a trip with some friends, I was shouting loudly about wanting to try cocaine. My friends thought it was funny though.

>>8869057

its ok, I like booze and coke together but its dangerous

>>8868680
fuck jews you stupid little baby

Also, go back to r*ddit

>/pol/ turns up
>thread immediately shit for first time in months
Cool.

>Wake up
>Large white blotches on front teeth
uh oh
>Immediately drink water
>Chew some xylotil gum
>put a snus (swedish one) in (pH level ~8 so alkaline)
>In a few hours the white spots are gone

Thank god, major trouble avoided

>>8869206

>tfw always end up going on stupid rants about jews and niggers when I'm getting really drunk and I'm in company

>>8869206
>little babbys complaining about the content on a Malaysian puppet forum

Super cool.

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>>8869214
kek
someone I knew showed up at a party with some friends of mine and immediatly started calling this urkel oreo black guy a nigger
everyone starting freaking out and he defended himself with more racial slurs
he got kicked out and another friend of mine who invited him had to apologize to everyone
shit was hilarious, I kind of liked the guy

>>8869250

My county has very few nigs overall so everyone pretty much agrees with me anyway
I'd imagine it's different in the states though

>>8869258
im in texas but the group I was with were a bunch of fags, honestly
some literally
but when I was drunk I didn't really give a shit

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Who /functioning/ here?

Friday means the weekend is almost here, which means being permanently smashed until Monday. I think I'm going to make Caesars tonight, I haven't had those in a while.

>>8865902
40 oz of Colt 45. It tastes like fucking shit but it gets me drunk.

>>8865909

>Tfw made 50L of redberry (dno how it is in english) and 40L of apple wine

Both came out pretty nice, pressing the apples to get the juice was shit tons of work though

>>8865664
I grew up in AA. My parents have been in AA for longer ten years longer than I've been alive. I grew up with exposure to self-deprecation, self-pity, self-righteousness, and religious dogma, all through the program, associating it with health, because everyone I knew through my parents as a kid talked about it like it saved their lives. This was all infused and tangled up with the Protestant dogma of the Bible Belt. I was sexually assaulted in AA. I've seen physical assaults in AA. I've seen men prey sexually upon vulnerable women who want to get their lives back on track (i'm a boy btw :)

I've also seen the 12 steps save people's lives. But I've far too often heard it said that the 12 steps are the only possible way to prevent an alcoholic/drug addicted death. My experience has proven to me that it is not the case. Not even 100% puritan abstinence for the rest of your life is necessary to escape the downward spiral.

If it weren't for AA I never would have been conceived, and AA has been there for me and been invaluable in pulling me out of a suicidal madness. But it's not for everyone. It's not for me. May it work for those who choose it.

>>8869354
doug stanhope?

>>8869354
>invaluable
>some dude assfucked me while I was there
>I love it

Maybe you're gay. Also Christian programs do not accept gays so keep it a secret.
Homo.

>>8869385
>he thinks this is 1991

Tons of churches take gays nowadays. Also, your attempt at being edgy is weak and I would try harder.

>>8869399
I have never been to a church that allowed dudes who like getting assfucked.

Never.

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Is this legit? I don't consider myself a heavy drinker but I easily go through about 24 drinks a week.

>>8869408
There's a church in Louisiana with a (((transgender))) preacher :^)

>>8869412
You're a faggot.

>>8869409
That's like one 40 per day. Nutritional science is complete bullshut aimed to get you to buy and eat government produced waste chemicals. Drink all you fucking want as long as it's under 10% alcohol. 40% Will ruin your life and liver when combined with the government chemicals. Absorption of poisonous b vitamins skyrockets when you drink a beer.

>>8869430
Piss off

>>8869409
It's near the top of the slippery slope, where it can start going down easily.
Someone posted the repartition of drinkers in the population (US I think) a while back, it's ridiculous how many people don't drink or almost don't. The top bracket was drinking the equivalent of a bottle of vodka a week, that was my daily consumption...
But in the end it makes sense to have a limit this low, because our point of view is distorted.

>>8869502
Thanks for the good answer anon. I guess I'm going to start keeping an eye on things.

I started by having a drink with dinner. That turned into two drinks, one during and one after. Then some days I'd come home stressed from work and drink right away. I also started drinking pretty much all day on the weekends, starting as early as first thing in the morning, but spacing out my drinking so it wouldn't really get me drunk.

I don't get drunk really, the most I get is a little tipsy, and at that point I always stop. But I just drink a lot because I drink so often. If that makes sense?

Guess I really am embarking on a slippery slope but it's easy to convince myself it's no big deal since I'm not getting DRUNK drunk, just a little giddy and lightheaded.

>Have to use multiple paper towels to open the 2L beer bottles every time

fucking cancer

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>>8869554
I suppose you dont have time to put them in the fridge and must open them as soon as you get them home from the shops (or in the car even)? Cold beer foams much less when opened.

>>8869554
>>8869790
The fuck are you guys talking about? You can't open a beer without spazzing all over yourself?

>>8869531
Imagine getting a promotion. A raise, but more stress. And that's your downfall. Not getting fired and losing your gf the same day or something "typical", because we don't live in a movie script.

>>8869825
Withdrawal gives uncontrollable shakes, the tremens in TD.

>>8869825

2L plastic bottles of beer, you can fucking open them slowly and still they spill shit loads everywhere, it's why I have to use paper towels to open them, it's not about being spastics you fucking retard

>>8868286
howareyoualive.jpg

>Got food poisoning from burger joint (hadn't eaten anything in the past 24 hours when I got the burgs)
>Want to go back today
>Scared the burgs will taste shit again and I'll throw up because of poisoning again

So I love this thread, ive only found it a week or so ago but stalk it everyday. It gives me a great insight..
Is it dead on the weekends on fri night?

also one of u guys need to make a new one.

>hey anon, you ok?
>anon, alright?
>nice chatting anon, say hello next time your in

i dont want to talk to you or get to know you in the because then ill stay till closing and drink more
just let me watch the football and shitpost in peace and go home after a reasonable amount of drinks

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>>8868245
this this this

drinking alone is what got me, and hey wouldja look at that, I'm drinking alone in my room right now, even though my roommate is in the living room having a drink.. I feel t he need to hide it, which is also a problem.


man fuck this life

>>8870331
you go to bars by yourself?

>>8870351

if friends arent available or i just want to drink a few yeah

>>8870351
I read at my local bar, if I'm there before like six or seven. It's quiet and chill and nobody bothers you

>>8870370
>>8870383
Don't you feel weird sitting at the bar by yourself? While other people are being social and having fun n such

>>8870269

I don't know, it seems to be alive constantly, considering there are many alcoholics here throughout the world

>>8870400

no
and im drinking, watching sports and shitposting
its fun and social (in todays web connected world)

>quit drinking for a few months
>first week really sucks
>then not so bad , keep smoking weed
>quit weed.
>depressed non stop for months

i guess i underestimated how good of a natural antidepressant weed is

>Going to a bar
>Paying for overpriced drinks

For what reason? Just buy a bottle at your liquor store and drink at home

>>8870424
i guess that would all depend on how where they are mentally. If their depressed in a real self deprecating mode drinking at home would prolly only make it worse..

Question, who are trips on this thread worth keeping an eye out for?

>>8870438

>trips in al/ck/

>>8870269
>It gives me a great insight..
So true.al/ck/ must give some of the best insight into the minds of alcoholics (or addicts in general). There is detailed posting on all major aspects of the addiction: the amount of consumption, physical/health problems, emotional/mental problems, and social issues. Provided you're up on current memes, al/ck/ is a great (if not the best) way to get to understand the desperate mind of an addict.

>>8870486

You could basically publish a research paper on alcoholism and addiction based solely on what is posted here

>>8870400
I mean there's lots of different kinds of bars. but most bars are just there for people who want to have a drink, right? why would you feel weird about going to a bar for a drink?

>>8870486
>>8870490
for sure, an observation i've made here is the people are from all different levels of social standings. Rich, poor, old, young.. It's fascinating..

Those pics of the wounds people have developed. Their living situation.
We are watching the death in real time of smirnoffbro..
It's a great thread that's hidden.on /ck/
I've struggled with drugs, but alch seems to be a beast in its own right.

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Is anyone here married? How does your wife deal with it?
>pic related

>>8862503
>Get a new job
>Intend on turning life around
>Celebrate after my first day
>Wake up so hungover that I decide I literally cant move
>Lose job

what the fuck is wrong with me

>>8870567

Nope, never even had a gf, or talked to a single female in the past decade that wasn't strictly academic or greeting a cashier

>>8870653
why? did you never try? How old are you

>>8870670

24 now, and no, never tried, stopped caring when I was ~13-14, stopped even wanting to interact with people irl when I was was around ~15-17
I self diagnosed myself with schizoid personality disorder, which fits almost all of the symptoms, but even if it's not the correct diagnosis, I simply want to be alone, I don't want to interact with anyone irl, that doesn't mean I can, because I can, if I need to, it's not like autism where you are troubles with it, I interact fine, I just don't want to.

>>8870674
>that doesn't mean I can't*

I'm a bit drunk and some or letters just go missing when I'm writing something, I literally have no idea why that happens, fucking some words that I think to write just never appears in my posts

>>8870680
>Some words*

Fuck's sake

>>8870567
im engaged
they dont like it but cant do anything about it either
eventually he'll leave im sure

>>8870653
I'm 25 now. I started dating this girl who was just barely 18. Gorgeous blonde (dyed but whatever) I fell deeply in love with her. She was as dumb as a box of rocks but she was the definition of kind and funny as well. You could tell that she was a truly lovely soul. Now I never had much of a family, my dad died when I turned thirteen and my mom was in and out of rehab my whole life. I raised myself, poorly. I refuse to meet her family for almost 6 months simply because it was such a foreign concept to me (You associate with your parents? Why?). I eventually do, her parents loved me. Once she went to florida with her sister and they took me out camping with them for the weekend. They had an RV and a yearly membership. They trusted me to watch their nieces and nephews. Her father took me on his yearly hunting trip, loaned me a rifle and I took home a 10 point buck. Truly nothing but good people. Me on the otherhand not so much. I'm literally about to cry typing this. We got in an argument once. Im no going to go in to details but I destroyed any semblance of trust they ever had for me. Or thats what I thought until they forgave me but it was never the same. I went to a party one night and was hitting on this girl. I dont cheat period. I always figure its so much easier to break up with someone than force the both of you through the betrayal. So I call her and tell her Im not happy. fast forward and hour and the girl leaves with her boyfriend who came to pick her up. Fuck. I try to make amends with the girl that I actually love but she would have none of it. It was over. this happened a year and a half ago.

I've been drunk ever since. Can't remember the last day I went without shoving alcohol down my throat.

If evil truly exists in this world I'm willing to bet its hidden in me.

>>8870674
so what is your plan? What are your goals?

>>8870687
If he left would you stop drinking? Are you at the instant wd phase where you need to drink to function?

>>8870705
What im trying to say is that you are missing out on nothing but heartache. I would give anything to have never dated. I know you think that its easy for me to say that having had it. But trust me. Love, ironically, is the source of all pain.

>>8870709
I don't have any, I just want to live in a small apartment, making enough so I could buy food and alcohol and upgrades for my PC and just play vidya or watch movies or tv shows, or just play sudoku all day like I do now (I only do that on my laptop at uni though)

>>8870713

I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, I simply don't want relationships, any relationship would be negative for me since i wouldn't want it in the first place, you're probably confused by what I say since you desire them biologically.
I don't.

>>8870705
yea you fucked up, that's pretty stupid. But you will love again. Sometimes it takes a few years. But it always happens as long as you keep yourself desirable..
Don't lose your shit and things will work out..

>>8870709
id probably drink more
i do work and study, but i also down about a fifth of spirit a day. i cant work if i dont drink though, i even drink a bit at school and nobody notices. most of my co-workers are drunk degenerates as well

the most ive gone without drinking has been three days and i was surprised i didnt feel any really bad symptom beside the anxiety and the shakes

>>8870745
They notice.

>>8870750
the teachers dont, my friends obviously do
if the teachers do then they give me a pass for some reason

>>8870753
That happens. Most of the time its just because your problems arent their problems and they have papers to grade or some shit. But I assure you that they notice.

are any of u nasty drunks

>>8870846
nasty as in what