Annoying food related myths

"Dietary cholesterol doesn't raise serum cholesterol!"

Myth perpetuated by fad diet book salesmen and egg councilmen. Little to non-existent substantial literature that proves the statement. Mostly just population studies and cross sectional designs funded by those creeps

>>8802841
This but the other way around

>>8802845
This but the other way around

"Wisconsin is competent at making cheese"

>>8802841
Yeah, the entire scientific community acknowledges that dietary cholesterol increases risk of heart disease, but people on the internet love to say it doesn't. Of course they never offer proof.

And plant based diets reverse heart disease which is a hoax according to the same people, even though it's been thoroughly documented.

>>8802855
Yeah except replace the entire scientific community with absolutely none of the scientific community

That consuming more than a teaspoon of sugar a days is healthy.

A 12oz coke has 9.33 teaspoons.

"Fruit is just as bad for you as candy because fructose".

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>>8802825
>I can't stand run down Chinese shop #1 they use MSG! That stuff is terrible for you. Let's go to the cheap Chinese buffet that totally doesn't!

You stupid moron, the Chinese buffet is PUMPING that shit into food, you just don't notice because you think buffet food is suppose to taste different.

>>8802861
This except the other way around

Vegan shill detected.

>>8802866
>Carbs are bad for you, they MAKE YOU FAT

no you idiot, you're just not realizing how much you eat

>>8802875
Dairy shill detected

>>8802868
The myth here is that msg is bad for you

>>8802855
My sources, by the way:

Vegetarians have significantly lower heart disease mortality and cancer incidence: http://www.karger.com/Article/Pdf/337301

Low intake of dietary cholesterol can prevent heart disease: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3052353, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16596800

Vegetarians have lower risk of ischemic heart disease: ajcn.nutrition.org/content/97/3/597.full.pdf

Beneficial association between vegetarian diet and cardiovascular risk factors:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25343719

Physicians should recommend plant-based diets to their patients: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23704846
(Also discusses heart disease.)

Plant-based diets can reduce risk of heart disease and stroke: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12936948, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25431999

Vegetarians have better antioxidant and heart disease profiles than healthy omnivores: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15474873
Plant-based diets can reverse cardiovascular disease: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25198208

Another interesting read:
Study Points to New Culprit in Heart Disease
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/health/study-points-to-new-culprit-in-heart-disease.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

>>8802890
correlation =/= causation

a vegetarian cares about what he eats, that immediately has an impact on so many things compared to someone who literally doesn't give a fuck

compare healthy diet vegetarians and healthy diet non vegetarians instead of EVERYONE ELSE

fucking hate studies that go full autism on one thing and forget the world is a complex place

>>8802903
>correlation =/= causation

Wow! Thrilling analysis! You sure disproved all those studies!

>>8802903
>Pretending you so much as skimmed through the titles of the studies.
>Thinking no one will notice.

>>8802890
You might outlive me but at least I won't die a faggot.

>>8803189
Kay, babe. Rip in piece.

>>8802890
>vegetarian
>vegetarian
>m-muh plants

You were supposed to prove shit about dietary cholesterol you fucking retard. Maybe eat less carrots and more dietary cholesterol because your brains seems to be dying.

>>8802866

OP said myths, not comments made by fucking retards
no one, of proper education level of age, has said this unironically

>>8802883
This except the other way around

>>8802950
you read all 9 articles?

>>8803236
I did. Some of them a long time ago, but yes. I read studies as a hobby.

>>8802825
This SORT of qualifies.

I've seen multiple people attempt to dispel the myth that you should salt pasta water so that the water gets hot faster. They come to the conclusion that to significantly speed up that process you would need to add so much salt you would ruin the pasta.

Which is, obviously, completely fucking missing the point. You're just seasoning the pasta when you salt the water. Who the fuck told these people that it was to make the water boil faster?

>>8803228
you'd be surprised

>>8802825
Don't know about the cancer, but Mark Messina who did the singular study you listed about the "feminizing effects" is a member of the "United Soybean Board", a group of soybean farmers.

>>8803262
That 70's Show told me that to stop water from boiling over, you add salt to it, if I'm remembering correctly. But that doesn't sound right. Maybe it was part of a joke I was too young to get.

>>8803314
now that you say that I seem to remember my grandmother saying something similar. so it may be some kind of home remedy/old wives tale type shit. maybe it works I don't know. usually I just use a fucking SPOON to keep shit from boiling over.

>>8803311
Interesting. But it actually references multiple studies.

Here's a better one. Still has that guy, but a lot of other people and a lot more studies involved.

http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(09)00966-2/abstract?cc=y=

Find me a meta-analysis that shows soy causes feminizing effects in men and I'll be extremely surprised. (Know a ton of men who eat a ton of soy, and they're actually some of the manliest looking men I know, honestly.)

>>8802825
>follow David Wolfe
What does this mean?

>>8803329
nothing grandpa. say, weren't you supposed to be in bed an hour ago? come on big guy lets get some night-night.

>>8803319
I am from the year 2397.
We humans now eat wheat products without poisons added to prevent the water from boiling over.
The only shocking thing is that it took over 300 years for people to realize that pasta without chemicals in it does not cause the water to boil over and quite literally light on fire.

>>8803311
He's not a soybean farmer though. He's a member because he's an expert on soy, not because he profits from the industry.

>>8803333
nice quads. but I'm not going to make homemade pasta every time I want some spag or penne just so I know my water won't boil over.

>>8803381
They sell unenriched pasta. BARELY.
healthy harvest, though squelched as fuck, is available.
You can skip the middleman of making your own poisoned spaghetti because the flour is already 10% powder form chemicals anyways.

>>8802868
What a shitty strawman. Where do you live that there are retards stupid enough to believe in the MSG is bad meme and then go and eat at a shitty Chinese buffet?

>>8803401
okay thanks

>>8803262
When you get water to near boiling point but not quite that rolling boil, throwing salt into it usually speeds it up from my experience.

>>8802825
only thing i find more annoying than food myths is this facebook tier meme

'Vodka is bad for you'.

You just need to drink in moderation, like one-two bottles a day. You will outlive evey non-drinkers, I'm 80 and I drink vodka everyday.

>>8803324
See, this is the problem with vegans. They assume that any study they read is true (as long as the study supports veganism, of course). You never think to analyse the studies critically. Every study that shows soy doesn't increase estrogen levels has been sponsored by the soy industry.

>Know a ton of men who eat a ton of soy, and they're actually some of the manliest looking men I know, honestly
Yeah, we all know how manly vegans are :^)

Just testing if I'm still getting "upload error". Please disregard.

>>8803481
>Every study that shows soy doesn't increase estrogen levels has been sponsored by the soy industry.

that doesn't mean anything though. maybe if the study was funded by someone in the soy industry it might point to something fishy, but that's not always (if ever) the case.

it's weird, you're urging someone to be overly objective and critical by insisting on some sort of vegan agenda/soy industry conspiracy. and yes, some people might immediately think if they read a study that it's the be all end all for that subject, and that's silly, but it's perfectly okay to cite the evidence shown in the study, especially if the evidence and results are repeated over time.

so like, shut up, man.

p.s. not a vegan, just think you should suck my balls

>>8802841
>>8802855

>>8803418
It's most likely just your expectation, unless you're actually timing the difference. I suppose it's possible that undissolved salt crystals would seed a boil, but I don't think it's likely.

I've timed boils with 4L of cold tap water, unsalted, and salted with 1 tbsp of salt, same pot, burner... negligible difference.