Egg Thread

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>>8745536
Gentle reminder that an 88 old man on the UK was studied eating 30 eggs per day. He had low cholesterol and was healthy as a bull.

>>8745539
I was gonna call that out as bullshit until I found a scientific paper discussing it

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199103283241306

>>8745536
36, but only hardboiled whites.

>>8745569
Just dont forget your multivits

>>8745536
That's up to you, sweetheart.

more than a half and you'll get lung infections

>>8745539
>>8745551
>142 mg/dL LDL-C
>low cholesterol

>Alzheimer's disease and depression
>healthy as a bull

>>8745606
The Alzheimer's was probably caused by using aluminium pans or worse, non-stick.

>>8745614
>>8745614
suuuuure it was

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0197458014003480
>However, because of the limited number of relevant studies, most experts regard current evidence as insufficient to indict aluminum as a contributor to Alzheimer's disease risk.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1471491403000078
>The first experimental evidence for a strong interplay between cholesterol and β-amyloid metabolism was published by Sparks and colleagues in 1994 [26]. They showed that feeding rabbits a cholesterol-enriched diet for eight weeks led to an accumulation of intracellular β-amyloid immunoreactivity in neurons of the hippocampal area. This observation has since been replicated in African green monkeys receiving a saturated-fat- and cholesterol-rich diet over the course of five years [27]. Transgenic mice expressing the human APP Swedish mutation also show accelerated amyloid deposition in the brain in response to high cholesterol diets [28,29]. Furthermore, cholesterol diet manipulations in humanized-APP-transgenic mice have been used to increase apoE production in the brain and to reduce indirectly the steady-state concentrations of β-amyloid 1–40 and 1–42 in the hippocampal and cortical areas [30].

>>8745640
>evidence is insufficient = aluminum has no connection


this isn't how science works you fucking one-study conclusion monkey

>>8745644
>a connection=causality and primary contributing factor

the point is that evidence implicating cholesterol is much stronger and definitely more relevant for someone with hypercholesterolemia and angina on a 20-30 egg a day diet

>>8745657
>I regurgitate info from Google Scholar'd meta analyses and call it knowledge

You are the worst type of pseudointellectual.

>>8745663
>projecting this hard

eat eggbeaters.

do not eat eggs. the yolk is pure fat. and packed with cholesterol.

>>8745684
>the cholesterol meme
off yourself

>>8745663
I think the worst type of pseudointelectuals are the ones that call people pseudointelectuals.

>>8745614
>pack smoker has lung cancer
>probably caused by the sulfur volatile he inhales chopping up an onion once a month, or worse, pollen from the tree outside

>>8745684
Dietary cholesterol and your lipid profile are two very different things, and only one has a direct effect on your health.
At this point that should be well-known to anyone with an interest in healthy eating, so I declare you to be a troll.

>>8745536
My supermarket stops stocking free-range orange-yolk eggs.
Most likely because of Easters.
fml.

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Eggs are the healthiest, protein-packed, cheapest food available.
The great majority of fit weightlifters eat a pack of eggs daily.
The yolk has cholesterol, but also has anti-cholesterol substances that are present if you eat the yolk soft. Do NOT hard-boil the yolk, always stop the cooking while the yolk is creamy.

>>8745657
Good thing cholesterol is synthesized in the body and not absorbed the way you think it is

Should I eat fewer eggs if I have high blood pressure?

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>>8746541
herp de doo

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2123481/pdf/brmedj02487-0043.pdf

>>8746591
What does that supposed to mean?

>>8746610
>1963
Gee whiz, buddy. Can't you find something more recent?

Apparently Americans are so fat and unhealthy they think a cholesterol level of 140-200 is something to be admired and to be written a "case study" in a journal about. What a riot

>>8746616
Metabolic ward studies are pretty expensive but feel free to waste your funding on yet another one for eggs

>>8746616
look at the methods

only a complete retard would post this reserach as an argument that eggs are bad

>>8746641
Dunning-Kruger strikes again

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>>8746610
>University of Capetown, SOUTH AFRICA
>1963
Holy mother of shit, the derping is strong.
Next you´ll find me papers from University of Zimbabwe, 1945.

>>8746665
yeah sure thing dr.
where are all your published researches, waht name do i search for on pubmed?

>>8746668
Enjoy your ban you stupid faggot :^)

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>>8746674
Have a cake ( ͡0 ʖ ͡0)

>>8746673
I'm et al come at me faggot

>>8746615
Dietary cholesterol has little effect on blood cholesterol

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SO CAN I SAFELY CONTINUE EATING 4 EGGS A DAY OR NOT

CAN SOME1 ANSWER THIS STRAIGHT PLS

>>8746674

you need to go back.

>>8746791
Yes

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>>8746839
THNX

>>8746734
The paper shows the egg man absorbed ~901mg of cholesterol which would account for ~15mg/dL plasma increase given his body weight. That's on top of the ~50g of saturated fat consumed. Both downregulate hepatic LDLRs and precipitate hypercholesterolemia.

>>8745673
>damage controlling this hard.

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>>8745614
High blood cholesterol clogs your arteries and the man had very high LDL-c aka the shittiest cholesterol there is and alzheimers is a umbrella term for a multitude of cognitive diseases. Now what do you suspect when the veins in your brain get clogged from eating tons of animal fat and cholesterol which raise your serum cholesterol and build up in your veins? Pro tip: your brain gets literally clogged.
Ischemia in the brain is not a joke. You are literally causing brain damage in the long run if you have high cholesterol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_atherosclerosis

>>8746734
Well actually most of the studies have people who already eat some cholesterol (literally all other people but vegans eat cholesterol) and theres a logarithmic curve how dietary cholesterol affects your serum cholesterol. If you already consume a few hunded mg's per day, then any added cholesterol isn't going to do much. However, if you cut out all dietary cholesterol, we see a reduction in serum cholesterol.

>>8745536
If i'm bulking i'm eaying 2 for breakfast, 3 before workout and 4/5 eggwhites in the evening + about 4 chicken breasts, veggies and rice throughout the day with no problem.

>>8745728
eggs raise and lower cholesterol like a light-switch.

>>8747051
>4 chicken breasts
do you just not like food or what
why are you on a cooking board?

>>8746791
You still have to steer, faggot.

>>8747137

/fit/fags have an irrational fear of fat. They think that if they consume even the tiniest bit it will "mess with their gains"; therefore they will choose only the leanest possible meats regardless.

I wonder if all the exercise has caused some kind of brain damage? OFC you don't want to go around eating super-fatty meals. But eating, say, chicken thighs instead of chicken breast isn't going to affect anyone's gains.

>gains

If I heard someone using this irl I would laugh in their face.

>>8747078
False

>>8747321

I think the same way about silly internet slang like "irl".

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>>8746610

>egg yolk fed to the same individual
>the same individual

gee thanks god all humans are like exhibit A

>>8745692
>>8745728
>le fat earther meme

You will thankfully off yourselves

>>8746616
>>8746668
>Isaac Newton is wrong because he's from over two hundred years ago!!!!

Kill yourselves

>>8747346
>False
true. there is an enormous amount of propaganda out there with regards to eggs and cholesterol.

it has been proven time and time again that eating eggs regularly will dramatically raise your cholesterol.

Just eat however many you want and kill yourself before you get alzheimers and forget to do it.

When I was young, I ate three dozen eggs every day to get large.
Now that I'm grown I eat four dozen eggs, so I'm roughly the size of a barge.

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>Nutritionist here
I would recommend eating one yolk and as many egg whites as you want cooked either without fat, or in healthy fats as long as you have enough calories left over to eat leafy greens as well as other vegetables. However I wouldn't recommend eating egg whites as your only source of protein (every day). You need some fatty fish and red meats in your diet as well.

>>8747857
You're a dogshit nutritionist

>>8747857
>nutritionist
don't listen to anything this fucking retard has to say
>>8748067
WRONG, _nutritionists_ are dogshit!

If you want a real answer op talk to a dietitian, theyre the only people who actually have to get a real degree to have the title.

>>8748067
rude

>>8747857
>Nutritionist
>Not a Dietician

I'll ignore your opinion then, thanks

>>8748097
Qualified or not, his advice boils down to 'eat a balanced diet', which is good advice every single dietitian worth their salt repeats ad nauseam.

It's the shills you want to look out for, because they've decided your health plays second fiddle to selling their 'product'. Qualifications are only worth as much as their holder's integrity; Dr Oz is a prime example of this.

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>EGGS RAISE CHOLESTEROL LDL
NO, you pieces of shit.
What raises Cholesterol are crap like bacon and fat sweets. If the person being studied actually eated ONLY the eggs, he´d be healthy.
ONLY. THE. EGGS.
Mix your butter, bacon, stake and cheese with the fucking egg and you WILL DIE WITH YOUR FUCKING ARTERIES CLOGGED.

>>8746791
Yes but that's a lot of fat to burn off

>>8747638

I went keto to lower my high cholesterol and blood pressure, and that includes eating a ton of eggs. My blood work came back and it's the lowest it's ever been. Strange.

>>8748567
>Mix your butter, bacon, stake and cheese with the fucking egg and you WILL DIE WITH YOUR FUCKING ARTERIES CLOGGED.
Keto proves otherwise.

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>>8748685
>>8748678
>keto
1/10, made me Google.
Another bullshit magic diet crap.
Going to sell the snake oil that reinforce the Keto too?

>>8745684
even if the cholesterol is bad for you, just separate your eggs and eat the whites. that's literally all egg beaters is. prices may vary where you are, but where I live, you can buy a dozen eggs, throw out the yolks, and the amount of egg white you have left is still cheaper than an equal volume of egg beaters or even store brand egg beaters.

>>8748685
I can confirm eating stakes will destroy your heart

>>8747698
Nobody's quite like Gaston.

Ive been eating 4 eggs average a day for the past 2 years and get bloodwork and lipid profile checked every year for 5 years now and all my levels have been in the healthy range every time.

The only problem with eggs are the egg farts, other then that they are harmless.

>check bloodwork printout
>no units on cholesterol, LDL, HDL, etc
>doctor never indicated anything was wrong or concerning

>>8748891
If you're eating a ton of carbs in addition to steak, sure. But keto itself will actually help your heart.

I eat 2 a day, more on rare occasion when I feel like having an egg salad sandwich as a midnight snack or something

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>>8745536

When I was a lad...

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>>8749165

When I was a young warthog...

>>8745640
>intracellular β-amyloid immunoreactivity in neurons of the hippocampal area.

does this mean the nutrients in egg yolks can help create the fatty outer covering of neurons?

>>8749173
Rapeseed oil is the way to go apparently.

I can easily gobble up eggs all day with every meal, but I usually cap it at two sunny side up almost daily.

>>8748678
Losing weight and eating less calories tends to do that.

>>8747582
>Two other healthy make volunteers were used later for confirmation of the observed trends
It's in a metabolic ward as well and sure as fuck better than the completely unsubstantiated assertion that undercooked eggs have "anti-cholesterol substances"

Have any better data?

>>8745536
As much as you want. Cholesterol from egg is a myth as it's been debunked but I recommend free range if you want.

>>8749533
>Cholesterol from egg is a myth
Also a myth

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27739004/

>>8749564
Plenty of people have done this, in particular a guy who ate a dozen eggs a day for 20 years. His medical report came back, cholesterol is normal.

>>8749568
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

>>8749576
Don't be mad you're a sheep.

>>8749585
>toddler level critical thinking is for sheeple

wew lad we idiocracy now

>>8749500
I didn't do either. Calories stayed the same so that I could maintain. I'm not trying to lose mass.

>M-y cholesterol is h-healthy
Hey you obese fuckwits, a cholesterol of 190 is not normal or healthy. If you look at the actual science, a healthy zero-risk cholesterol level is more around 70

And it isn't exactly surprising that none of you diabetic dicknuggets actually posted the values on your results because, without fail, they will be fucking garbage.

I can't wait for all of these keto clowns to have their heart explode while they get ass cancer, it's already happened to a bunch of em like Seth Roberts and his "a stick of butter a day" meme diet. Retarded cunts

>>8749150
I was joking about stakes used to kill vampires senpai

>>8748305
He recommends eating red meats. There is literally nothing beneficial about eating red meats. Nothing. All of the nutrients can be found more healthily other places, without the fat and massively increased risk of colon cancer.

don't go overboard with the eggs mate. protein can cause serious damage to the body if consumed in excess.

>>8748067
>>8748097
>>8748111
I'm a fucking dietician you retards. In my country nutritionist and dietician mean the same thing.

>>8749171
wew