Anyone use MSG? My local supermarket started carrying it and

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>>8661038
What is it like knowing you eat chemicals?

>>8661044
>chemicals
Most foods are.

You can get it dirt cheap at any asian store. I use it sometimes, but it's way overrated. Sprinkle lightly. I found it works decently on pizza.

>>8661049
All foods are. All physical matter is made of these so-called "chemicals".
MSG is best on meats, definitely pork and chicken. Go ahead and buy it to experiment, that bag pictured is probably only $3 and a better value than the Accent branded version which is the same thing with a higher price.

>>8661038
Don't overdo it, shit can give you killer headaches.

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>>8661038

MSG helps lazy and cheap cooks cut corners, as it enhances the flavor of other ingredients. It has no flavor of its own. Like this user said: >>8661044 , it's cheap poison and I'd rather prepare food the correct way with quality ingredients.

>>8661079
Why don't you get your rolling pin out of your ass there chief

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>>8661083

Not an argument.

>>8661079
>the sodium salt of an amino acid is poison

>>8661087

Yes. Sodium is poisonous, especially concentrated forms like MSG.

>>8661072
An equivalent amount of table salt is more likely to cause headaches.

>>8661089
Sodium is a volatile metal and is extremely poisonous, anon.

>>8661044
>mfw eating chemicals every day
>mfw wearing chemicals on my body, all parts of me touching chemicals
>mfw walking on a nature trail surrounded by chemicals
>mfw breathing in chemicals
>mfw blowing a steamy load of chemicals over ur mums chin
>mfw my keyboard is chemicals
>mfw I am chemicals

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>>8661044
>>8661079

>he fell for the "MSG is dangerous" meme

how does it feel to know the position you've taken is so retarded that it's literally based only on one guy writing one article in the NEJM back in 1968 which vaguely described symptoms he got after eating at a Chinese food place this one time, which could have been attributed to just about anything

no credible/empirically valid double-blind study has ever EVER established a causal link between msg and whatever you think it is responsible for

>>8661095
Hydrogen and oxygen are both extremely flammable gases, which is why I cut water out of my diet.

>>8661113

>yessss whye man, food safe here, we no have peegeen instead of dukk.

I said it's cheap synthetic flavor. It's used by lazy/cheap cooks. Gooks and slants are more frugal than Jews. Especially restaurants.

>>8661116
>flammable and poisonous are the same concept.

>>8661124
>missing the point entirely
>being this new

>>8661095

Diamonds are the hardest metal, most toxic too.

>>8661038
use it where applicable
If you're not adding anything that adds much glutamic acid it's a cheap and easy way to. Add more umami through better selection of your recipe and ingredients.

>>8661129
>glutamic acid
>umami

Talk like a normal person you manbun having cunt

I understand the headache and rapid heartbeat thing. I've felt these effects before after using way too much. And some people are especially sensitive. Some people can also taste the presence of obvious MSG and its an unpleasant "fake" taste they do not like. That's just personal preference in taste and that's fine, I wouldn't force MSG on your guests, especially if they have spoken out against it. But fuck them, I mostly cook for myself, and I use it often.
Now with that said, it certainly isn't toxic, and I quite love the taste when its used in the right place at the right time. The thing that's a lot harder to nail down is the quantity, and in what situations does it provide benefits. I've used it regularly for years, and I'm still unsure about how much to use. I hate those plastic bags as in OP's picture, because I usually just clip the corner off and use it to pour from, and that often allows a large unmeasured quantity to dump in. I have yet to see good guidelines about how much to use, since very few recipes posted will admit to using it. You really are on your own here.

>>8661044
So if you're too pretentious to eat chemicals, what do you eat instead? Photons?

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>>8661141
No, I just think it's the lazy man's shortcut to good umami. I wont deny it works well under the right cases but some fools still use it blindly in every case as an "automatic flavor enhancer"

>>8661128
Diamonds are hard but less dense than you, anon.

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>>8661139
>Talk like a normal person
>manbun having cunt

>>8661121

that's not all you said, buddy

since it's still unclear which of the two people I quoted you are, let's run through both possible scenarios

Option 1 -- you're the guy who invoked the "muh chemicals" boogeyman, accompanied by a skull and crossbones

Option 2 -- you're the guy who quoted the guy from Option 1 and explicitly agreed with what he was implying:

>Like this user said: >>8661044, it's cheap poison

Which one are you, and when should I expect the triumphant revelation that you were merely feigning gross ignorance?

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>25 posts
>10 IPs
>half the replies in this thread are one guy using mental gymnastics to prove MSG is bad

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>>8661154

>>8661151

This. MSG certainly isn't toxic or dangerous, it's simply that there are many sources of the umami taste which are a lot more flavorful than using straight MSG.

Examples: miso, tienmenjiang, doubanjiang, worcestershire, fish sauce, shrimp paste, hard aged cheeses like parmagiano-reggiano, marmite/vegemite, dark stocks, soy sauce, etc...

Why use MSG when you can use one of those that tastes a lot better?

I use it all the time, sprinkling MSG on roasted vegetables is a whole new level of flavortown

>>8661170
>Why use MSG when you can use one of those that tastes a lot better?
Because this board is fucking infested by weebs.
Fuck know what the attraction is, it's food and cooking not animu and CP.

>>8661170
>Why use MSG when you can use one of those that tastes a lot better?
It makes food more savory without altering the flavor profile or adding more calories.

>>8661038
Use only a tiny bit at a time
A 1 lb bag will last me almost 8 months usually and I use a little sprinkle most days
It really brings out savory, meaty flavors. Don't use too much though because then it tastes weird.
I usually do like 80% salt +20% msg when I intend to use it, which is mostly for the chinese and japanese style foods I cook

>>8661079
>Salt helps lazy and cheap cooks cut corners, as it enhances the flavor of other ingredients.

>>8661170
That's like asking why I don't use things like soy sauce, anchovy paste, sea water, and bacon in place of salt

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>>8661113
>mfw I tried to explain this to my mom dozens of times
>mfw I even showed her article after article debunking the myth of "lel msg is bad for you", showing her where the myth came from, and why it's horseshit, and how there is no evidence at all that it's bad for you
>mfw immediately after she was like "hmm i didn't know that"
>mfw next time we were going to make some chinese style food she overlooked so many sauces/ingredients because "muh msg"
Why do people do this, cu/ck/s?

>>8661128
senpai you're mixing up dragon force with diamonds

>>8661340

Exactly. and it's a very valid question.

Wait so it doesn't tenderize the meat? That's what I'd been told and the primary reason I wanted to use it. I want that really soft texture that Chinese restaurants have with their beef

>>8661454
that for sure is not the primary purpose. As far as i know MSG holds no tenderizing properties, but I might be wrong. It's entirely a flavor enhancer, like salt, but which seems to trigger the protein receptors in the tongue.

>>8661515
Wow, guess it's just a wives tale or something then

>>8661454
I believe the secret is thin beef, a dusting of corn starch and fast cooking at high heat.

>>8661044
https://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/FoodAdditivesIngredients/ucm328728.htm

Read this and then judge. Its fucking extracted from veggies. Do you know how long asian people is eating this stuff? more than 50 years. thats for sure. Do you see any article people dying from it? Fuck no.We eat this shit regularly you just don't know. Sometimes MSG can be hidden as a E number. Its just a stupid flavor enhancer, that makes you thirsty. that's all. Every Ramen/japanese joint and dim sum restaurant is using it.

>>8661530
really, the thin and fast part is the most important

>>8661038
MSG is the salt of umami. It came from asians instead of white people so it is looked down on but white people.

It's pretty great tho.

Not arguing with the retards in this thread, here are facts that are overwhelmingly accepted by reputable scientific organizations (ie; not nautral news)
>There are five tastes, this triggers the "savory" one
>It's not any less healthy than salt
>"Headaches" and so on have been proven to be complete bullshit
>It's not any more "cheating" than salt is
>Yelling "chemicals" just proves you have no business in any sort of rational discussion/argument

>>8661552

>here are facts
>not one citation in entire thread

http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/food-nutrition/facts/the-dangers-of-monosodium-glutamate.htm

>>8661552
If I eat MSG I get headaches.
Fact.
Get fucked weeaboo.

>>8661585
you also get headaches from sucking cock but that hasn't stopped you

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>>8661580
>howstuffworks.com

>>8661580
>howstuffworks
>reputable scientific organization
Good one
>>8661585
>I don't know what causation is

>>8661597
even worse, that article is written by "the editors of PureHealthMD" which is notoriously bad.
Further the citations are misleading and counterevidence is not given.

>>8661580
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16999713
https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/8846733/Sing05.pdf?sequence=1
https://www.fda.gov/Food/IngredientsPackagingLabeling/FoodAdditivesIngredients/ucm328728.htm

Educate yourself. MSG is fine.

>>8661606
Yeah it cites a double-blind study by Yang as negative for MSG:

>In fact, a double blind study (where both researchers and test subjects were not aware who was getting a real test or a fake test) found that MSG exposure caused muscle tightness, fatigue, numbness or tingling, and flushing [Source: Yang].

But when we go to the actual study:

>Sixty-one subjects entered the study. On initial challenge, 18 (29.5%) responded to neither MSG nor placebo, 6 (9.8%) to both, 15 (24.6%) to placebo, and 22 (36.1%) to MSG (p = 0.324). Total and average severity of symptoms after ingestion of MSG (374 and 80) were greater than respective values after placebo ingestion (232 and 56; p = 0.026 and 0.018, respectively). Rechallenge revealed an apparent threshold dose for reactivity of 2.5 gm MSG. Headache (p < 0.023), muscle tightness (p < 0.004), numbness/tingling (p < 0.007), general weakness (p < 0.040), and flushing (p < 0.016) occurred more frequently after MSG than placebo ingestion.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9215242

>small sample size
>placebo is almost the same as MSG

>>8661597
>>8661602
>>8661606

This also explains an awful lot...disgusting.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3785512

>>8661609
See
>>8661621

No u

>>8661621
>>8661625
>mice

I guess we should stop watching chocolate since it kills dogs, right? lmao @ your life

>>8661632
eating chocolate* kek

>>8661621
>inject mice with high doses of MSG
>same thing as humans eating MSG
How do you even manage to breathe without fucking that up

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>>8661632
>>8661636

>MSG doesn't cause fat manbaby syndrome in humans
>90% of the posts are about ananas, mcchickens, tendies and mummies cummies

This board alone proves this study true. Shining example factually speaking.

>>8661652
>mcdonalds has msg
kek

>>8661652
If you actually believe anything you typed, I strongly urge you to get your head professionally examined or move to Florida

>>8661621
https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search2/r?dbs+hsdb:@term+@rn+142-47-2

>human studies failed to confirm an involvement of MSG in "Chinese Restaurant Syndrome" or other idiosyncratic intolerance

>toxicity studies using dietary administration of MSG in several species did not reveal any specific toxic or carcinogenic effects nor were there any adverse outcomes in reproduction and teratology studies

>results indicate that monosodium glutamate provoked flushing, if it exists at all, must be rare

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>>8661658

(ThePost):

>DONT INSULT MY MCCHICKEN

Dig yourselves deeper manbabies.

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>>8661665
here add this to your collection

>>8661662
>>8661664

Struck a nerve with the balding, lazy manbaby demographic.

>Major features of the MSG syndrome including hypophagia, obesity, hypoactivity, reduced pituitary protein content, decreased ovarian weight, delayed puberty and elevated plasma corticosterone levels were obtained at the highest dose

>>8661089
>concentrated forms
MSG contains less sodium than the equivalent amount of table salt.

>>8661652
>>8661665
>can't prove that MSG is bad
>tries to derail the thread
Nice pivot.

>>8661673
it's a pity that the Lorden study you quote is thirty years old, holds some unrepeatable data and has been falsified by more recent research.

>>8661685
NO U MANBABY
REEEEEEEEEEE

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>>8661678

Proven science derailed it, now you manbabies are scrambling and it's funny to ser you frenzied. You've been injured by this chemical yet stil defend it. My wifes sister is a disgusting junkie too. Here's a pic from when we told her to rehab and leave her kids in foster care or we'd kick them all out into the snowy winter night.

Your day is coming soon too...

>WAHHHH STOP PROVING ME WRONG WITH FACTS LEAVE ME ALONE WITH MY DORITOS AND HOTPOCKETS REEEEE!!!

Pathetic drug addicts.

>>8661685

Hasn't been debunked, just ignored to keep you fat manbabies impotent, lazy and eating your poison... cite it.

>>8661695
Do you have a more recent study than the flawed Lorden study?

No you fucking don't.
So sit down, shut up and let us adults talk.

>>8661677

Only good salt is true salt, naturally taken from the sea or mined. Sodium Chloride is also responsible for MANY negative illnesses, most notably Americas explosive obesity rate and culture spreading across the planet.

>>8661585
some people eat cilantro and taste soap

that's not a problem with cilantro

it's a problem with them

just accept that you're damaged and move on

>>8661704
>"True" salt
>Not sodium chloride
Anon, I...

>>8661702

>hurrr we adults damnit we'z not manbabies REEEEEE

Pick a citation, and read it.

http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/food-nutrition/facts/the-dangers-of-monosodium-glutamate1.htm

I've yet to see you post anything other than shill citations. Remember when the Chinese government got caught using Melamine to trick protein tests in 2008 and literally executed their coconspirators so they wouldn't get lynched? I do...

>>8661710

Sodium chloride is synthetic salt. It's detrimental to anything eating it. There's a reason they use it to thaw frozen roads. The fact it strips paint off your car or damages pavement beyond repair shouldn't be concerning, not in the sightest...

>>8661713
>post fear-mongering bullshit that misrepresents its citations
>shits on actual reputable sources
Honestly will you just kill yourself

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>>8661723

>FACTS THAT SCARE ME AREN'T REAL FACTS, LALALALALALA

Drumpftard confirmed.

Not giving that dumbass a (you), all salt is sodium chloride and is safe to the point that it sometimes gets injected straight into your body
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saline_%28medicine%29

>>8661718
All salt is sodium chloride, even sea salt.

>>8661718
I remember when trolling was clever and can cause divisiveness through benefit of the doubt. But this post is plain awful.

>>8661713
>howstuffworks.com

None of the cited studies truly support the argument of the article.

Metcalfe proves that there are probably MSG allergies. Big woop. Hold the fucking phone.

Izikson isn't even about MSG. This is classic misrepresented citation.

Gladstein's article is about headaches, and is an interesting study on headaches, their causes and their treatment. MSG is only mentioned once in the section about future research.

The Simon article proves that MSG can exacerbate urticaria, this is good science. BUT IN LESS THAN 3% OF PEOPLE WITH CHRONIC URTICARIA. That's a very small percentage of the population.

The Fernstrom article is about how endocrinology changes after extremely high doses of MSG. The only thing it proves is that blood serum levels of MSG rise after having huge doses. It doesn't prove that this rising blood serum level is bad, and it doesn't prove that MSG gives you headaches or whatever you're trying to prove.

>>8661754
>manbaby drumpftard reeeeeee

>>8661044
>chemicals

Sodium chloride, potassium chloride, citric acid, alpha tocopherol, hydrogen, oxygen...

>>8661749
>>8661752

Salt and sodium are not the same thing.
"Salt" is the term commonly used for sodium chloride (NaCl) which is table salt. Sodium chloride is just 40% sodium and 60% chloride. One teaspoon of table salt contains 2,325 mg of sodium.
It's important to note that in addition to sodium chloride, sodium shows up in food in other forms including monosodium glutamate (MSG), sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) and sodium nitrate (a preservative).

Fat manbaby retards are swan diving off the overpass into oncoming traffic, it's funny how stupid you are.

>i don't know ANYTHING about food or cooking
>im going to post their anyway

Thanks for your input.

>>8661072
If you are susceptible to migraine, you can handle a lot more salt than you can MSG.

>>8661754

It's all published scientific fact that hasn't been debunked. The source of the facts doesn't invalidate them. Stop crying.

>>8661764
All salt is sodium chloride.

>>8661710
Table salt, or pure sodium chloride is is the worst, chemically tasting stuff you can ever put in food.
Unless you're living on welfare there is absolutely no reason to use table salt.

>>8661773

Sodium and chloride are 2 different highly toxic chemicals when mixed together become "inert" and "safe" It's not true salt. That comes from the land and sea.

>>8661734
>assuming one's political affiliation based on a discussion about MSG

>>8661788
Sodium is found in many foods naturally and is an essential mineral for our body. We would die without sodium.

Sea salt is sodium chloride.

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>>8661791

You're not denying it, most people that voted for him are fat retarded flyover trash. Shucks, you've been exposed manbaby. Boohoo.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2005/jul/10/foodanddrink.features3
MSG is fine to consume but I don't like too much of it.

>>8661772
That's the problem. The cited references don't support the argument. In fact, half of them are non sequiturs.
So while they are published scientific facts, they don't support the argument that MSG is bad for you.

You fucking scientifically illiterate retard.

>>8661796

Sea salt is not sodium chloride. The seas are not laboratories with industrial grade purified chemicals. Nor scientists to control said mixture of highly lethal poisons to become "inert". Stop posting now, it's embarrassing.

>>8661796
Stop using science to support your argument you fat manbaby drumpftard flyover

>>8661808
>Sea salt is not sodium chloride
Yes it is.

>>8661803

They all focus exclusively on illnesses triggered or causef by MSG consumption. Even if God himself told you it was killing you, you'd still sit there...day after day...eating your garbage and being happu about it. Ignorance is bliss they say...

>>8661817
>>8661808
samefag

>>8661811

Lolno.

>>8661818

Yup. I'm not talking to myself there, just 2 posts of mine talking to your drumphytards.

>>8661817
>doesn't read the citations

>tells me what's in them

lmao

8661822
Just wanted to show everyone that the same troll who says MSG is bad says table salt is chemically different from sea salt and everyone should stop giving him (You)s.

>>8661823

If you read them you'd have stopped posting by now, must be the injured pituitary and frontal lobe damage holding you back, as cited in one of the referenced studies.

>>8661038
try it on scrambled eggs. it's by doing so how i started identifying the "umami" flavor

>>8661773
Table salt is to sea salt as distilled water is to spring water.

>>8661832

>muh alternative facts guy herrrr

I am none of those scientists and dieticians who published peer reviewed studies on this subject, just a messenger.

>>8661852
Yes, and all water is h2o.

>>8661038
It's great on popcorn, with or without salt.

>>8661860
Yes but you try switching to only distilled water and tell me they're the same.

>>8661860

Not all consumed salts are sodium though, but an inert mixture of chemicals rendering the poison "safe".

>>8661871
Irrelevant to my point.

>>8661873
All food items called "salt" of some sort are mostly made of sodium chloride however they have mineral impurities that give them their different flavors depending on the source.

Table salt is chemically refined to pure sodium chloride and tastes like Satan's salty bleached asshole.

>>8661890

Sodium and chloride are different things...

>>8661890
>responding to b8

>>8661897
See
>>8661734

So sad...

>>8661305
That's more than a gram per day. Is that fine?

>>8661928
if it's 20% MSG and 80% salt then that's like 4 grams of salt a day on top of the msg.
Can't be good for your arteries

>>8661928
I had lab work done last month, and I have some kidney stones, but heart is just fine. I'm 22, exercise frequently, and I cook for 5 other people most days. I'd say it's probably pretty normal. Maybe I just have good genes or something.

>>8661948
Aren't kidney stones at 22 abnormal? Also, did you pass them yet? Jesus.

>>8661955
Probably, my doc said it was from drinking too much diet soda
Yeah it hurt as fuck. That's what I get for having such an insatiable sweet tooth while trying to lose weight :/

>>8661948
>kidney stones at 22
>have good genes
kek

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I just use ingredients that already have the msg.

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>>8661038
every supermarket sells msg

>>8661713
You realise that the same site that you insist on using as a source also has two podcasts episodes dispelling the myths on MSG.

>>8662685

[Citation needed]

>>8662693
http://www.stufftoblowyourmind.com/podcasts/msg-xenophobia.htm

CBF with the other one, poofta

>>8661140
How does it feel that you put all that thought and effort into a post and over 100 replies later no one has even acknowledged it? Are you still here lurking in the desperate hope of a response? Or did you post a few other replies to mask your failure, knowing no one would ever possibly call you out. Which posts are those anon?

But Russell Blaylock-senpai said msg is bad for you

MSG is poison. Glutamic acid is a neurotrasnmitter and there is quite a bit of in the human body, however we can detoxify only L-Glutamate, which is naturally occurring in fish, eggs, meat, seaweed, etc.

MSG on the other hand, contains "free" glutamate since it is freed from the proteins that it is normally bound to in natural sources. MSG also contains D-Glutamate in addition to natural L-glutamate, which the body CANNOT detoxify itself of:

"D-glutamate is not oxidized by the D-amino acid oxidases, and therefore this detoxification pathway is not available for handling D-glutamate. Likewise, D-glutamic acid, when ingested, largely escapes most deamination reactions (unlike the L-counterpart). "

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/D-glutamic_acid#section=Top

" In brain injury or disease, they can work in reverse and excess glutamate can accumulate outside cells. This process causes calcium ions to enter cells via NMDA receptor channels, leading to neuronal damage and eventual cell death, and is called excitotoxicity. The mechanisms of cell death include: * Damage to mitochondria from excessively high intracellular Ca2+. * Glu/Ca2+-mediated promotion of transcription factors for pro-apoptotic genes, or downregulation of transcription factors for anti-apoptotic genes. Excitotoxicity due to glutamate occurs as part of the ischemic cascade and is associated with stroke and diseases like amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, lathyrism, and Alzheimer's disease. glutamic acid has been implicated in epileptic seizures."

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/L-glutamic_acid#section=Top

Read the book Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills

"The harmful effects of glutamate on the central nervous system (CNS) were first observed in 1954 by T. Hayashi, a Japanese scientist who noted that direct application of glutamate to the CNS caused seizure activity, though this report went unnoticed for several years. The toxicity of glutamate was then observed by D. R. Lucas and J. P. Newhouse in 1957, when the subcutaneous injection of monosodium glutamate into newborn mice destroyed the neurons in the inner layers of the retina.[7] Later, in 1969, John Olney discovered that the phenomenon was not restricted to the retina, but occurred throughout the brain, and coined the term excitotoxicity. He also assessed that cell death was restricted to postsynaptic neurons, that glutamate agonists were as neurotoxic as their efficiency to activate glutamate receptors, and that glutamate antagonists could stop the neurotoxicity.[8] Subsequent research by Mark Mattson provided evidence for the involvement of excitotoxicity in Alzheimer's disease, and other age-related neurodegenerative conditions that involve oxidative stress and cellular energy deficits."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excitotoxicity

>>8662821
>>8662826
Interesting. Any longitudinal studies examining MSG use and negative side effects between populations?

>>8662856
No, because he's full of shit.

>>8661141
I kekked

>>8662826
>direct application of glutamate to the CNS caused seizure activity
Im sure theres a number of safe to eat things that'll kill you when injected to the brain in a high enough dosage.

Did you know if you inject pure oxygen into your bloodstream you can have a heart attack or stroke? We should really try to stop people from consuming that poison.

>>8662826
>>8662821
Did you know if you ingest too much dihydrogen oxide you will die?

>>8662871
Oh god, how do I stop breathing?

>>8662860
I know, because if we had these studies from the 60s about how bad MSG was someone would have run that type of study. I'm just having a laugh.

>>8661038
Google this: msg testosterone

>>8663309
everything on the face of the earth lowers test and causes cancer

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>>8661044

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>>8663739

You know there's a search function build right into 4chan...right?

Nice nigger meme though.

Why is it that whenever I eat something that contains msg i feel ill? When i feel ill that's my body telling me that whatever i ingested was bad for me. It's pretty simple really. Msg might make food taste good but it definitely wasn't meant to be consumed by humans.

>>8661044
this
just try shooting you're sex partner full of heroine and shit, will be the best sex you're partner ever had

>>8663899
>but it definitely wasn't meant to be consumed by humans.

....yet it occurs naturally in many different foods

>>8663910
sand is also naturally found
usually spinach leaves have some sand
enjoy sand as god intended and praise jesus for having sandy leaves for dinner

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>>8663394

>>8663918
my g-d that is funny
end women suffrage, women have suffraged enuff!

>>8661454
Absorbic acid is most likely what your thinking of looks very similar to msg be carefull when you use it one teaspoon can make a whole lot of soup taste sour
The flavor is sour like a lemon but it helps alot in tenderizing

>>8663899
It's your brain desperately looking for feelings to complain about because it's easier to just tell you you're sick than to actually rewire your beliefs about what you're eating.

>>8663918
The anti-MSG morons in this thread won't understand half of the words in that comic.

>>8661454

No it doesn't tenderize meat. Whomever told you that is a moron.

>>I want that really soft texture that Chinese restaurants have with their beef

The procedure is called "Velveting". Google it.

>>8661044
Dihydrogen monoxide is the worst chemical in existence

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>>8661121
I am compelled to chuckle, the retarded old wives tale spouting msg is bad steeple turned out to be a racist as well. Truly us whomst expand our minds and pallets should feel blessed for our awareness and if not all but cast their gaze on this fool.

>>8664474
Sheeple*

>>8661621

He's getting desperate lads

>>8661124
Well yes, hydrogen and ozone are also poisonous.

>>8661619
It's just too easy to be disingenuous.

>>8663899
It definitely isn't caused by greasy, salty Chinese food. Definitely.

>>8661113
>MEME

It can launch a nuke from anywhere on the planet, how is this not dangerous?

>>8661808
this terrible bait

>>8661835
>ad hominem I must ad hominem him to death
lel but seriously scientific illiteracy is a problem man you should get checked out for brain problems

Genuinely think either msg or aspartame triggered my aunts multiple sclerosis. She was huge into diet coke right when it came out and was diagnosed a year or two later.

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>nonessential amino acid that your body produces normally + sodium atom is poison
keep it ignorant, everyone

>>8661808
OK, this bait actually made me laugh

>>8661038
You can use it in the same way you use salt, and on pretty much anything savory.

>>8665794
>what are precursor molecules

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>>8661038
ya lil sprinkle in my food get job done

>>8661044
It's monosodium glutamate

sodium ---> salt
glutamate ---> umami flavour (mostly from meats)

But I wouldn't trust what the Chinese put in it.

>>8662821
Just take enough DXM to block all your NMDA recepter channels.ww

>>8661038
>MSG

I mix a lot of it in (about 1:4) with Frank's Red Hot and then I just put THAT SHIT ON EVERYTHING.

>>866114
>2000+17
>not eating though photosynthesis

>>8668422
lrn2quote