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>>8632183
Coffee

coffee and coffee

I went to the starbucks drivethru and got a coffee and I felt like a basic bitch after they handed me the venti blonde roast i asked for along with the little green thing they stick in the mouth hole.

>>8632265
did you ask for a BBC for them to stick in your mouth hole?

>>8632265
>I went to the starbucks drivethru and got a coffee and I felt like a basic bitch after they handed me the venti blonde roast i asked for along with the little green thing they stick in the mouth hole.
You mean a straw? I'm not sure what you mean.

My wife Syaro is so cute!

>>8632278
>blonde roast i asked for along with the little green thing they stick in the mouth hole.
>You mean a straw? I'm not sure what you mean.
They have a plug so you don't spill it on yourself like a six year old and sue them.

>>8632314
lol wow

>>8632167
who's this character

also what's the blue stuff?

>drinking the caffeinated jew

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>>8632320
Pic related

Flat or Conical burrs?
Steel or ceramic?

>>8632167
OMG I am just so useless without my coffee in the morning. Like don't even talk to me until I've had my first cup!!!!!!!!!

>>8632455
makes a fairly decent sounding rod in a pinch

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>>8632167
Is Starbucks any good, or is it just an instagram meme?

>>8633076
Starbucks being good is a meme for normies.
Starbucks being terrible is a meme for coffee autists.

Anyone used both a skerton and a capresso? Is the capresso at least as good as a skerton? I'd like to get an electric for the office but I don't want anything too expensive (people might break it).

>>8633076
You just pay way too much for normal coffee.
It doesn't taste like shit, nor like gods tears.
like >>8633078 said.

>go to newly opened coffee shop
>order American espresso
>watch them make it
>they literally put only a tiny amount in the cup and then fill the rest of it up with hot water
>confront the manager about it and he tells me that's how they always make it

Fucking hell, no wonder most people just go to Starbucks

>>8633391
>order shit
>get shit
>complain

???

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Gween tea!

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>>8633487
I'd-a rike-a some-a moah Cawfee.

>>8633391
What were you hoping for, espresso and a little flag in it served by a statue of liberty shaped drone?
Because you got exactly what you ordered.

>>8633525
I can dilute my own coffee at home instead of paying $5 for it.

>>8632455
I thought these were so that you didnt get coffee splashing all over the place when you hit a bump in the road
Theyre actually helpful for that

>>8632455
These are a great invention though and I hope whoever came up with it is a millionaire.

Who else /givingupcoffeeforlent/ here?
12 hours down.

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GWEEN TEA

>Move into an older flat
>Pipes absolutely cannot handle coffee grounds worth a damn
>Start switching to pour over coffee

What is the different between a chemex and just a filter and a pot? It seems like a huge scam.

is GochiUsa the official /ck/ anime?

>>8633584
Are you that fag who makes the thread where he complains about ordering a mcchicken with no meat and still gets charged the full amount?

>>8633391
>ask for watered down coffee
>OMG WHY DID I GET WATERED DOWN COFFEE

>>8633783
Anon they literally put a splash in a cup and then filled it up using the hot water tap that they use for tea. They weren't even trying to hide it.

>>8633861
Why would you order americano?

>>8633868
because I try to support local when I can

>>8633872
What a stupid mindset.
You just got fucked over by "local".

>>8633868
Americano is the only way to drink coffee without looking like a homosexual.

>>8633891
if your coffee came out of a $2000 chrome plated machine, it's homosexual

>>8633861
So do you not know the difference between drip coffee and what you ordered, or..

>>8633891
Just drink straight espresso

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>>8634056

>>8633891
>take espresso
>dilute it because it's too strong for you
Tell me again about not being a fag?

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>>8634063
Please, giant vapes like that are for lesser minded plebs more concerned with ripping "fat" clouds than exploring the myriad of possible flavors waiting to be inhaled. I bet that fag still has nic in his vapes.

Pic related is my mod.

>>8634115
Why do you have a calculator.

>>8634130
Because I'm at work and regularly use it.

Also that "vape" is actually just a pen.

I'd like some more kafuu chino.

>>8633391
This has to be bait

>>8634855
Not him, but I've experienced that once before.

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>>8633200
pls respond

>>8635301
I have no idea how a capresso is, but it takes about $150 invested into an electric burr grinder for it to be better than a skerton. Unless you grind extremely coarsely.

>>8634115
>exploring the myriad of possible flavors waiting to be inhaled
This is fedora-tier delusion.

No different from fags talking about how deep and rich the "flavour" in their marijuana or hookah is.

>>8633660
Yes, and it's unironically the reason why I decided to pursue opening up a cafe.

>>8635350
its just you

>>8635329
> Unless you grind extremely coarsely.
isn't that backwards though? I can get a fairly consistent grind with my skerton on fine, but at coarse there are a ton of fines along with boulders

>>8635412
That's exactly what I just said.

>it takes an expensive electric to be better than a skerton, unless you grind coarse. (because cheap electric grinders will potentially grind coarse as well as if not better than an unmodded skerton)

That all being said and seemingly understood, you can just get a cheap upgrade for a skerton for great coarse grind. Why you'd grind so coarse is beyond me, not even presses should be made that coarse.

>>8635343
Mate, it's a fucking ink pen. TWSBI Eco.

I've never even vaped in my life, I'm just bein an ass.

>>8635488
>>it takes an expensive electric to be better than a skerton, unless you grind coarse. (because cheap electric grinders will potentially grind coarse as well as if not better than an unmodded skerton)
What? You're contradicting yourself. I'm saying in my experience, a skerton (in my case it happens to be modded, but I tried it without the mod) gives a tolerably consistent fine grind, but an intolerably inconsistent coarse grind. Are you trying to say a cheap electric would somehow excel at coarse grinds? In other words a coarse grind would be perfectly consistent particle size?
>>8635575
>TWSBI
reddit: the pen

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>oolahlah voole boo I drink le hot cofeiu to be fanceiu

Is there a bigger sign of a tryhad daddypalette than people who drink this liquid bilge? Every fucking time I go out someone inevitably demands I take a few refined sips of their potting soil juice because it's what the big boys do.

>>8635597
I don't get how you don't understand when I spelled it out for you.

We have both agreed a skerton's weak point is its coarse grind. What I'm saying is that a cheap electric grinder will grind coarse as well or better than a skerton, but to grind a fine grind as well as a skerton, you need to spend ~$150+ on an electric.

>>8635665
you said:
>it takes about $150 invested into an electric burr grinder for it to be better than a skerton. Unless you grind extremely coarsely.
which implies that a cheaper electro will grind coarsely well and finely poorly

so what you're saying is, a cheap burr electro burr grind is no good unless I dirnk french press, which I don't

>>8635675
Actually the only implication there is that a cheap electric grinder will perform better than a skerton for coarse. Nowhere does it imply that a cheap grinder is -good- for coarse.

But yeah, a grind that coarse is negligible in most regards. Skerton is great, hard to beat on a budget.

>>8635343
YOU USE MYRIAD VERY, VERY INCORRECTLY

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>8635597
This really isn't the place, but I have MUCH nicer pens. I don't carry them to work.

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>>8632455
I used to work in Starbucks and I would take one of these things and sound my penis with it when I'm on break in the washroom. It was pretty good.

>this fucking thread

you all know absolutely nothing about coffee holy shit

>>8632309
SHE IS MEGA UGLY LOOKING WHORE

>>8632597
GET JAR OF INSTANT COFFEE AND YOU DON'T NEED ANY OF THIS CRAP GRINDERS

>>8632602
wimp

>>8633755
so what faggot

>>8634056
straight expresso is for homos

If you spent more than $50 on your whole coffee setup, you're autistic.

>>8632167
I don't drink coffee anymore, I'm done with that crappy useless expensive addiction.
Drinking coffee I realized is just for fake posers faggots.

I like my coffee with a splash of milk so the quality of coffee doesn't really matter.

Pretty good strategy I think.

>>8636703
if you add sugar to it you can even enjoy shitty coffee made using dark roast Robusta beans

>>8636476
>expresso
I want to hurt you. Like, not hospitalize, just a small bruise or two.
It's espresso. Literally meaning pressed coffee. It has nothing to do with speed or power relating to express. You can make a weak espresso or strong drip/press.

>>8632268
Starbucks offers that?

>>8636934
it's a meme, you dip

>>8636934
Except that isn't true, that's a fantasy etymology invented by americans trying to distance themselves from fast food, an unrelated cancer of their own creation. Espresso was literally invented for speed. I bet you say "habañero" too.

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>>8636540
>expensive

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>>8636540
yeah I agree, I only use Turbo Snort now

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>>8636934
anon you are such a uneducated sheep.
>"expresso"
expresso is the proper definition of the technique used to brew coffee, in a very fast way. That's why the espresso machine was constructed for,
to brew coffee fast, in express way.

I always thought that the term was espresso (as in ES), but it turns out I’m wrong.
The correct terminology for ordering my intense caffeine fix is not Espresso, but rather EXpresso (like expressway).

"expresso" is the French form, "espresso" is the Italian one.

"espresso" is from the Italian verb esprimere, which is a corruption of the Latin verb "exprimere".
So, if anything, "expresso" is more correct because that's more close to the word's Latin origin.

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>>8637628
>400 hours of ENERGY

jesus christ

>>8637264
>>expensive
sorry for my spelling mistake, I know it should be; esspensive

>>8637628
I like this idea. I'm going to look for it in health food stores.

>>8637824
I thought Expresso was the ostrich that you ride in Donkey Kong Country

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>>8636934
you are so stupid it hurts. you were programmed to think that way.
it's the same shit like saying tomatos or tomatoes or color and colour
same shit with expresso or espresso, the origin of that word is naming machine that will make coffee in a fast way,in a express way.
\
And both spellings are describing exactly the same thing, coffee made in a fast way.
One way is italian pronunciation the other is french and anglo.
Get a brain check done you sheep following what you are told without doing some thinking and researching the whole topic.

expresso or espresso are both proper ways to say it, people stop being stupid and brain washed idiots
And turds like this poster >>8636934 threatening physical violence are example that abortion should be legal and his
mother should be charged with neglecting to abort him and by doing so she would protect society
from his stupidity and aggressive attitudes.
I hacked his computer and found picture of this dumb ass

>>8637884
shut the fuck up faggot

>>8637985
I GUESS YOU HAVE NO SMART ARGUMENT AND NOW YOU ARE FUMING WITH RAGE. LOL

>>8636934
READ THIS YOU DOOR KNOB
>>8636834

>>8637995
I'm not even him lmao I just think you're an annoying faggot

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>>8638062
OR MAYBE YOU JUAST NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND SIMPLE THINGS IN LIFE
and now you are triggered lol

>>8638082
lmao keep entertaining me faggot I'm loving it

>>8638091
if by demonstrating that you are stupid is entertaining to you, sure we don't mind doing that

>>8638103
>we
>samefagging this hard
>still thinking I'm the guy you initially replied to

Top kek family keep it coming
I'm about to die from laughter

>>8638126
anon you must be huge retard if this is making you laugh. fuck we have retard in this thread
here is your picture I found on your hard drive

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>>8638147
>anon you must be huge retard if this is making you laugh. fuck we have retard in this thread
>here is your picture I found on your hard drive
your picture retard

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>>8636451
Why does everyone always bully me

>>8632431
>who is this character

Beat girl from Gochiusa

Any recommended coffee related reads?

I like coffee a lot but I hate coffee people and coffee culture so much.

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>>8638306
Same here. Especially the whiny babies that won't stop crying about "coffee culture"

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>>8638297
>Any recommended coffee related reads?
YES I WILL PROVIDE YOU SOME

dark roasted beans have no flavor at all, except flavor of burned charred asphalt

There is a very good reason why roasting houses roast coffee beans to a dark roast level.
Lowest quality beans are roasted to dark roast level, because they taste like shit if roasted to medium roast level.
So to deal with it and still sell the low quality coffee beans at the same price as the much better quality beans that are roasted to blond or medium roast level,
the "coffee geniuses" come up with this cleaver trick to roast the hell out of the beans (making them poisonous at the same time, giving you cancer)
but that dark roast level gives the "uniformity" in taste, because at that dark roast level all coffee beans taste the same - they all taste like tar.
And the nice complexity of flavors and all the oils and the sugars all that is good in coffee is burned is charred in dark roasts.

Coffee is the only product that you can take lowest quality of it that normally should be sold at much lower price per pound
and by dark roasting process you trick customers to pay the same price per pound as the higher quality product.
And as a bonus you are getting charred coffee beans that were proven by scientist to cause cancer.

So there you go next time when you forking out your money on dark roast coffee beans think about what you just read.
It's a little dirty secret that coffee industry hates to talk about.

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>>8638297
just so you know drinking coffee first thing in the morning on a empty stomach is VERY VERY fucking unhealthy
coffee is very acidic, so without any food in your stomach first when you get coffee in your stomach
you will be destroying your stomach lining and as a first symptom you will get ulcers and next stage will be cancer.
I would definitely eat something first or at least drink coffee while eating breakfast.

Don't be stupid man.Many people ruined their health but they were not made aware about it before, nobody told them.
Now you know. Do as you please.
If you don't trust me google it, "health issues-drinking coffee on a empty stomach"

here are just couple of articles, if you care to read.

A Reason NOT To Drink Coffee On An Empty Stomach.
http://naturalsociety.com/why-not-to-drink-coffee-on-an-empty-stomach/

This Is What Happens When You Drink a Coffee on an Empty Stomach.
http://positivemed.com/2015/04/07/this-is-what-happens-when-you-drink-a-coffee-on-an-empty-stomach/

you can google and find more info on this topic if you wish

>>8638297
One Hundred Years of Solitude

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Most of us tend to instantly look for a coffee and drink it first thing in the morning.
In fact, most people often drink coffee in the morning before eating breakfast despite big health risk of getting ulcers and cancer
by drinking coffee on an empty stomach.

>>8638341
>coffee is very acidic, so without any food in your stomach first when you get coffee in your stomach you will be destroying your stomach lining and as a first symptom you will get ulcers and next stage will be cancer.
I doubt that has much to do with the acidity of coffee. Your stomach acid is orders of magnitude more acidic than coffee. Coffee has a pH of around 5 (though there's great variance depending on roast level) while orange juice for example has a pH of about 3 and your stomach acid ranks at about pH 1. There does seem to be evidence that something about coffee stimulates the secretion of stomach acid and leads to increased acitidy this way, which can lead to symptoms like heartburn and possibly gastric damage. Having some food in your stomach likely alleviates the symptoms of increased stomach acid production.

>>8638362
Your stomach acids would literally melt your insides and kill you if they weren't contained by the mucus in your stomach lining.
Coffee doesn't do shit.

>>8638341

ulcers are a bacterial infection, you idiot.

>>8638369
>Coffee has a pH of around 5 (though there's great variance depending on roast level) while orange juice for example has a pH of about 3 and your stomach acid ranks at about pH 1.
So you see you are contradicting your own words.
Coffee has 5 and stomach is only 1. Coffee is much stronger.

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>>8638381

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>>8638377
not exactly that simple grasshopper,if your stomach lining is destroyed (by coffee in this case) that will start ulcers.
read this before you start your hysterical opposition to medical science:
Gastritis.
http://www.healthline.com/health/gastritis#Overview1

Gastritis is inflammation of the protective lining of the stomach.
Acute gastritis involves sudden, severe inflammation, while chronic gastritis involves long-term inflammation that can last for years if it’s left untreated.
A less common form of the condition, erosive gastritis, typically doesn’t cause much inflammation but can lead to bleeding and ulcers in the lining of the stomach.

What Causes Gastritis?
Weakness in your stomach lining allows digestive juices to damage and inflame it, causing gastritis.
Having a thin or damaged stomach lining raises your risk for gastritis. Also, certain conditions and activities increase your risk for developing gastritis.

A gastrointestinal bacterial infection can cause gastritis.
The most common is infection with Helicobacter pylori, a bacterium that infects the lining of the stomach.
It’s usually passed from person-to-person, but it can also be transmitted through contaminated food or water.

Other risk factors include:
-extreme alcohol consumption
-routine use of nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) like ibuprofen and aspirin
-cocaine use
-age, because the stomach lining thins naturally with age

Other, less common, risk factors are:
-stress caused by severe injury, illness, or surgery
-autoimmune disorders
-digestive disorders like Crohn’s disease
-viral infections

Symptoms
Gastritis doesn’t cause noticeable symptoms in everyone, but the most common symptoms are:
-nausea and vomiting
-a feeling of fullness in your upper abdomen, particularly after eating
-indigestion
-If you have erosive gastritis, you might experience different symptoms, including:
-black, tarry stool
-vomiting of blood or material that looks like coffee grounds

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>>8638369
>>8638372
Stomach (Gastric) Ulcer
http://patient.info/health/stomach-gastric-ulcer

Understanding your gut and digestion
Food passes down the gullet (oesophagus) into the stomach.
The stomach makes acid which is not essential, but helps to digest food. After being mixed in the stomach, food passes into the first part of the small intestine (the duodenum).
In the duodenum and the rest of the small intestine, food mixes with chemicals called enzymes.
The enzymes come from the pancreas and from cells lining the intestine.
The enzymes break down (digest) the food which is taken up (absorbed) into the body.

Some terms explained
Peptic inflammation is inflammation caused by stomach acid. Inflammation may be in the stomach; in the first part of the small intestine (the duodenum),
as acid flows in with food; or in the lower gullet (oesophagus), if acid splashes up to cause 'reflux oesophagitis'.
A peptic ulcer is an ulcer caused by stomach acid. An ulcer occurs where the lining of the gut is damaged and the underlying tissue is exposed.
If you could see inside your gut, an ulcer looks like a small, red crater on the inside lining of the gut.
A stomach ulcer is one type of peptic ulcer. A stomach ulcer is sometimes called a gastric ulcer. (The most common type of peptic ulcer is a duodenal ulcer.)
The rest of this leaflet deals only with stomach ulcers.

What causes stomach ulcers?
Your stomach normally produces acid to help with the digestion of food and to kill germs (bacteria).
This acid is corrosive, so some cells on the inside lining of the stomach and the first part of the small intestine (the duodenum) produce a natural mucous barrier.
This protects the lining of the stomach and duodenum. There is normally a balance between the amount of acid that you make and the mucous defense barrier.
An ulcer may develop if there is an alteration in this balance, allowing the acid to damage the lining of the stomach or duodenum.

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>>8638369
>>8638372

This Is What Happens When You Drink a Coffee on an Empty Stomach.
http://positivemed.com/2015/04/07/this-is-what-happens-when-you-drink-a-coffee-on-an-empty-stomach/

The first thing most Americans do in the morning is start the dripper to get in that first cup of joe before heading off to work.
Some people don’t even eat breakfast and just go straight for the mug as they run out of the house.
Sometimes during crunch-times and busy days where lunch or a snack aren’t an option, a person will go for a cup of coffee instead to try to curb hunger and increase energy.
Drinking coffee on an empty stomach, however, can have negative detriments to one’s health.

1. Stomach Acid Increases
Coffee on an empty stomach increases acidity.
This higher level of stomach acid creates problems for heartburn and indigestion throughout the day.
High acidity can eventually lead to severe abdominal issues such as Stomach Ulcers, Heartburn, Irritable bowel syndrome and Acid reflux disease.
Cheaper coffee usually has higher acidity, which can further exacerbate issues.
This is one of the reasons why coffee should be bought for quality over quantity.

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>>8638369
>>8638372
>>8638377

A Reason NOT To Drink Coffee On An Empty Stomach
http://naturalsociety.com/why-not-to-drink-coffee-on-an-empty-stomach/

When coffee hits an empty stomach, it’s a big shock to our systems.
While the antioxidant properties, derived primarily from chlorogenic acid, are great for overall health and even treating some diseases like colon cancer, they aren’t so wonderful on an empty stomach.
When ‘black gold,’ as some call pure black coffee, hits an empty stomach, it stimulates the secretion of hydrochloric acid in the digestive system.
This causes gastritis in some, and for those who are completely healthy, the coffee is still not without harm.
Hydrochloric acid is used to break down the food, and if you run out during the day, there will be a digestive disturbances during major meals, causing a particular difficulty for the body to dissolve proteins.

The Other Side: Coffee Health Benefits
Proteins that get ‘stuck’ in the digestive system, and are unable to be eliminated properly can cause a host of health issues – ranging from a little bloating and irritable bowels, to a full blown case of colon carcinoma.
Furthermore, when we drink coffee first thing in the morning, it causes a dump of cortisol (otherwise known as the stress hormone) right into our blood stream.
This stress hormone can cause you to crave sugar, think with less clarity, disturb sleep cycles, and over time, even cause other debilitating diseases.

If you want to enjoy the antioxidants of coffee, without the damage of ‘stuck’ proteins and excess cortisol,
simply make sure to eat a healthy breakfast with your cup of Joe, and never imbibe on an empty stomach.

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>>8638500
>>8638470
>>8638453
>>8638419

>>8633076
Starbucks supports terrorists. Do you support terrorists anon?

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>>8638503
anon it shows how uneducated dumb ass retard you are not being able to understand medical science.
anon, I just hacked your computer and found your selfie on it (picture related)

>>8638516
nice ink faggot lol

>>8638500
>naturalsociety.com
into the trash

>>8632309
I fucked your waifu in the ass.

>>8638571
>into the trash
to join you.
because your thinking about coffee and how innocent coffee and coffee business is is worst than trash.
anon,stop competing with apes,please

>>8638571
the sources go a blog that goes to another blog and one ends up at medecinenet. seems like a reliable place i guess.

Just so you all know that I'm reading this thread sitting naked wearing only a gown

>>8638593
>wearing only a gown

are you a girl or something, or do you live in the 19th century?

>>8638593
>Naked
>Wearing a gown

What did he mean by this?

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>>8638603
I wonder is she was a cup of coffee what coffee would she be

maybe cappuccino?
but the next is french press for sure

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>>8638631
>but the next is french press for sure

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Aeropress

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is this the famous espresso or is her name expresso

>>8638593
>writing that
you are pumped chock-full of benzos, I can smell it

I make coffee threads to be the best the most sophisticated and fun threads on the whole /ck/
Most of you faggots suck hydrant hose by your constant whining

Honestly, I've been on 4chinz for a very long time and these coffee threads are quite possibly the worst, most shitpost ridden, least productive threads I've ever seen in 10+ years. It's awe inspiring how bad these threads are.

>>8638924
I came to the exact same conclusion 2 threads ago. It really is fucking ridiculous.

Does anyone here actually like coffee?

>>8639027
Yeah. I love cold brew. Flavors are so nutty/chocolaty, YUM.

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>>8638924
>>8638958
yes you snowflakes are being disturbed, and you are whining now like little girls.

but think of it this way, how many people (including you you dumb assess) learned the dark nasty secrets
that coffee industry is hiding from average uninformed coffee drinker therefore exposing billions of people
to get ill or prematurely die in pain because they were drinking coffee that is toxic to human body
and can cause illnesses including nasty forms of cancers.

We know that this truth about coffee industry might hurt your profits but we don't give a fuck about it,
because we think that honest presentation of scientific facts and medical studies about possible very dangerous
side effects drinking coffee might have on particular human is very important to share.
And you can take your greedy dishonest attitude and twisted into a rope and very tightly wrap around your necks

We are not telling people to stop drinking coffee. We are giving them info and facts to know that there is a very dark toxic
way to drink coffee and that they can make informed choices what type of coffee they will drink.

You are acting exactly like Big Tobacco executives many years ago denouncing scientific studies showing that smoking cigarettes
is very toxic and harmful to humans. And Big Tobacco was acting the same way you are acting and reacting now when comes to dark
dirty secrets about coffee industry.

>>8638592
Just like anti-climate change blogs, snake oil health blogs will constantly misquote or even make up data or conclusions that weren't in the original study. I've decided never to even bother fact checking them anymore because it's been a 100% failure rate so far.

>>8639027
yeah its good

>tfw can't drink coffee anymore because of GERD
kill me

>>8639130
How does it feel to get cucked by the Jews my man?

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>>8639240

>>8638033
Thank you. While the others are certainly fine for educating me on the matter, that one actually makes simple sense and reasoning. Without aggression despite mine.
Sorry for >>8636934 that, dudes.

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>>8639091
>Just like anti-climate change blogs
DID YOU EVER THOUGHT HOW GROWING SUCH INSANE AMOUNTS OF COFFEE
AND DESTROYING TROPICAL FORESTS in order to gain land for new coffee plantations
is contributing to climate change, is contributing to loss of native animals loss of song birds
loss of trees and vegetation to keep the climatic balance.

But you don't care about that because you are busy pushing the idea of drinking coffee on people,
just so you can promote your businesses selling roasted coffee or associated coffee making merchandise

Give your head a shake faggot.
Take a look at this picture and soon you will see more coffee plantations there just to satisfy this stupid addiction,
coffee is not a food necessity, and clear cutting any more of the rainforest to start new coffee plantations should be
absolutely STOPPED right now.

We can do without coffee but the Planet needs rain forests.

anons, QUIT DRINKING COFFEE SO WE CAN SAVE RAIN FORESTS!

DRINKING COFFEE IS AN ADDICTIVE LUXURY but RAIN FORESTS ARE THE LUNGS OF OUR PLANET
IN ORDER TO CONTROL CLIMATE CHANGE STOP ESTABLISHING NEW COFFEE PLANTATIONS

>>8638720
But the best thing about benzos is that they actually don't smell the hell out of everything like alcohol does.

But don't worry! Coffee will sober you up anyway!

>>8639436
You're doing god's work anon

>>8639436
Adderall or ritalin? Ritalin was found to be extremely neurotoxic, you should ask your doctor to switch you over.

>>8639443
They're both pretty damn neurotoxic in high doses. Personally I'd switch over because phenidates are just much more anxiogenic in comparison.
But it could just be a ton of caffeine though. I mean, it's like the thread topic.

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>>8639440
you posting with irony or not but if you really think about it there is enough rain forests being clearcut for growing food
and we don't need to clearcut even more in order to grow coffee.
It should be forbidden to use new clearcut land to establish new coffee plantations.
Cultivate what is now used to grow coffee and deal with it.
Coffee is not essential for human survival every day, food is.
Coffee is quite useless addiction that human body can perfectly exist without it.

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>>8639470
>It should be forbidden to use new clearcut land to establish new coffee plantations.
>Cultivate what is now used to grow coffee and deal with it.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME BIG TIME ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATION INTRODUCING
THIS IDEA TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN ALL THE COUNTRIES GROWING COFFEE

AND NOT ONLY SAVING THE NEW LAND BUT ALSO SAVING WATER THAT IS USED ON COFFEE PLANTATIONS
WATER THAT COULD BE USED TO GROW REAL FOOD NOT FOR THIS UNNECESSARY LUXURY

302. The Water Footprint Of Your Coffee
http://coffeelands.crs.org/2012/09/302-the-water-footprint-of-your-coffee/

"Since early August, I have published at least one post per week on the relationship between coffee and water resources.
In several of those posts I have made mention of coffee’s “water footprint” without much exploration of the concept.
According to this excellent study, coffee’s water footprint is 140 liters (or 37 gallons) per cup."
The study suggests that in terms of the overall water footprint of coffee, it doesn’t matter very much whether farmers are wet-processing their coffee —
a sequence that involves depulping, fermenting and washing or processing it naturally drying the coffee bean inside the cherry and eliminating altogether the need for water use in the coffee process.

For the overall water need in coffee production, it makes hardly any difference whether the dry or wet production process is applied, because the water used
in the wet production process is a very small fraction (0.34%) of the water used to grow the coffee plant.
Picking up where the previous quote leaves off, the authors explain that the small amount of water used in coffee processing is disproportionately important:
However, the impact of this relatively small amount of water is often significant.
First, it is blue water (abstracted from surface and ground water), which is sometimes scarcely available. Second, the wastewater generated in the wet production process is often heavily polluted.

>>8638579
Lies!

>>8639783
I have coffee beans to prove it

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Anyone here with GERD/gastritis find it possible to drink coffee if it's cold brewed? I can't drink coffee at all cause I'll basically die, but I hear cold brewing removes a lot of the acidity. I wonder if it's worth it?

pic related, it's me looking for cute bois that are into cowfee

>>8639915
that's a girl you degenerate

>>8639915
STOP POSTING PICTURES OF UNDERAGED GIRLS YOU FUCKING PEDO

WHAT, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR NETWORKING WITH OTHER PEDOS HERE

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>>8639958
>>8640041
Stop right there! I said that it is a picture of me!

>>8640042
Global rule 13: Do not use avatars or attach signatures to your posts.

>>>/soc/

[spoiler]we all know you aren't anzu[/spoiler]

>>8640042
it's a fucking lie you pedo perverted maniac you
this is picture of a child you fuck
you are reported,and I hope others will report you also.
I'm sure your computer is infested with child porn you fuck head

>>8639915
>>8639958
>>8640041
>>8640054
>>8640055
this pedo poster is a mikuthing01 from Bellgab

>>8639827
Aha! But she works at the herbal tea shop! You must have fucked one of the dirty coffee whores, probably that slut Chino!

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>>8632603
Be sure to pinch your base while you're sounding.

>>8638297
this article is very informative,
Can Coffee Drinkers Save the Rain Forest?
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1999/08/can-coffee-drinkers-save-the-rain-forest/377733/

Much of the coffee you drink is "technified"; "sustainable" coffee often tastes better, besides being a lot better for the environment.

Storing coffee beans.

Air tight containers or containers with one way air holes? What have you noticed keeps the beans fresher for longer (1-2 weeks)? Or maybe that AirScape combining the two?

>>8640869
>Trying to talk about coffee seriously
>In a coffee thread on /ck/
>When your post is preceded by 161 shitposts of the highest order

You failed the autism test, senpai.

>>8640869
I store mine in one of those coffee tins with the one way valves from sweet marias

>>8633200
Skerton is OK for travel but grind size is inconsistent even with OE stabilizer installed. Too many fines, too many big chunks. Makes v60 brewing super inconsistent, so I feel like I'm wasting money until I can afford a virtuoso or one of OE's hand grinders.

>>8641226
You telling me that its better then air tight container? I don't trust those one way valves.
I feel like the coffee smells stale after a week+ in those.

>>8640869
I've been using Mason jars and a dark pantry for a while and find that it works ok...Usually go through 12 oz of beans in 2 weeks so I haven't noticed any drastic changes in flavor.

Just don't freeze or store cold condensation etc

>>8632167
Scott Rao's books on extraction and roasting are industry standards

>>8641636
My favorite roaster gets consulted by him and their coffee is one of the best in the city so I don't see any issue with that.

>>8641150
how about you
did you pass the test faggot

>>8641793
Good to see another person who enjoys coffee enough to spend some money on it.

I've been finding more and more with this place that you just have to ignore all the shit and shitposting and just have the conversations you want to have within the shit.

What roaster are you referring to?

Whenever I make coffee, I make 20oz and put it all in my stainless steel mug. Is this a normal amount to drink every day

>>8641818
Coffero.
I'm from Bulgaria, Sofia. They and Dabov specialty coffee are the biggest 3rd wave coffee roasters here.
I had a conversation with the owner of Coffero last time I picked up my beans and we talked roasting and he mentioned how much he respects Scott Rao's opinion and that he often gets consulted by him for their roasts.
Their and Dabov's beans are the real deal when it comes to single origins in the city so in my book Scott is an all right dude.

>>8641829
How much grams of beans are you using for that 20oz?

>>8641830
Nice man!

I own the Barista's handbook and I'll probably get the roasting book when I inevitably get into roasting...More money into coffee but at this point it's a hobby and not just something I drink for caffeine

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>>8641818
>all the shit and shitposting
by the shitposting do you mean all the scientific facts that are exposing dirty secrets about unhealthy
aspects of coffee and very unethical business practices that many roasters are guilty of,
is that you main concern that people finally waking up and discovering all those issues and that it might
affect your profits because coffee drinkers getting smarter and knowledgeable that for example dark roast coffee
is a huge rip off selling low quality coffee beans at the same price as the high quality coffee beans
and that burned charred dark roasted coffee is very unhealthy compared to light or medium roasted coffee beans.

I know you guys have no scientific facts to oppose all those dirty coffee industry secrets
so your only response is to whine about it and call it shitposting, but you know very well that those are scientific medical facts.

>>8641861
Or you know, maybe the actual shitposting?

>>8641940
Nah man, just ignore it.

Really not worth getting into arguments with someone who's only in it to shitpost.

>>8641940
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that.
Can you quote few posts here that you consider shitposting and untrue.

>>8641833
~37

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hide it like an ostrich
>>8641944
no need to argue, just post solid scientific medical facts data that will cancel what we are posting about few
nasty secrets coffee industry like to hide from coffee drinkers.
don't argue with medical scientific facts just post your solid scientific medical facts that will prove that we are wrong and you are pure and honest and right.

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>>8641944
here I give you some material to go over and see if you can destroy it's scientific medical facts.

Many people do like the dark roast but they are not aware that dark roast coffee presents very serious health issues.
Roasts like Italian and French (picture related) should be avoided in order to avoid getting cancer.
Here is why, this is very serious issue but not many coffee drinkers are aware of it.

CARCINOGENS in Burnt Coffee,
(and for those who are not aware carcinogens are cancer causing elements) you can read about it in this article:

http://camanoislandcoffee.com/the-5-dangers-to-avoid-when-purchasing-coffee-5/

Research has shown that if food is burnt or heated excessively then a certain group of carcinogenic substances are released which are known
as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs).
Once these substances have been consumed by the individual via the burnt food then they also travel into the intestines
and other organs of the human body via the process of blood circulation.
In such cases, these polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons not only cause cancer but also tend to increase toxicity of bone marrow,
suppression of the immune system, reproductive toxicity, liver toxicity as well as cardiovascular toxicity.

COFFEE is known AS ONE OF THE HIGHEST SOURCES OF CARCINOGENS AROUND,
yet something as simple as NOT purchasing burnt coffee beans can drastically reduce this factor.

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CARCINOGENS in DARK Burnt Coffee are the same as carcinogens (cancer causing particles) found on burned meat/steaks.

With horror I watch people grilling their meat to achieve those burned charred "grill marks", but those burned grill marks are nothing less than cancer powerhouse.
Funny thing is that those people would never feed those burned charred meat parts to their precious dogs or cats, but they gladly eat themselves.
So with dark roasted coffee there is a very serious WARNING that if we do care not to get cancer we should definitely avoid drinking any coffee brewed with dark roast beans.

The 5 Ways Your Coffee Kills You.
All in all, you can drink coffee and significantly hurt your body or you can drink coffee and actually enjoy a beverage that adds healthful antioxidants and tastes amazing.
I choose healthy coffee.

Coffee is one of the most heavily pesticide sprayed crops.
Much of our coffee comes from South America, and specifically Colombia, and uses pesticides such as heptachlor, chlordane and deiedrin. These pesticides are toxic to our body!

Also toxic molds Mycotoxins growing on coffee beans present health issue, so taking all those hazardous things into consideration don't add to damaging your health
by purchasing & consuming dark roasted coffee beans.

Coffee is one of those things that we don't really need to consume to stay alive.
We need to eat food, we need to drink water but we don't need to drink coffee in order to live.
Coffee is a treat, so educate yourselves & don't unknowingly add this tempting addictive treat to the already abounded number of cancer & other health problems causing products in our diets.
Coffee has some health benefits, but it needs to be consumed with wise approach to it because if you consume coffee grown with tons of toxic chemicals
or coffee infested with toxic molds or dark roasted coffee watch out.

The world of coffee is HUGE. Make sure you’re educated before you make your next coffee purchase.

>>8642034

COOL

FUCKING

BLOG

BRO

>>8642026
>>8642034

>posting all of this pseudoscientific bullshit without providing peer-reviewed sources

Leave.

>>8642056
>>8642079
Acrylamide in Starbucks Columbian
http://wickedcoffees.com/acrylamide-in-starbucks-columbian/

Acrylamide is a subject of ongoing investigations with the FDA. Why? It is a suspected carcinogen.
It tends to form in foods that are overheated when cooked. Most notorious are heavily cooked (as in burned) or fried meats.
But acrylamide is also found in toasted breads and fried potatoes, such as french fries and potato chips, according to Science News.
The FDA study sampled many common products and found acrylamides in roasted almonds, fish fillets, Starbucks Columbian roast, Wasa Crisp bread and Hershey’s Cocoa.
The State of California also has required Starbucks to post a warning in their stores that their coffee contains chemicals (acrylamide) known to cause cancer.
This is not something Starbucks adds the the coffee beans. It is a result of coffee roasting.

Then there is the problem of benzopyrene. According to an article in Wikipedia, benzopyrene is a component of pitch and can be found in coal tar after a forest fire,
in the air after a volcanic eruption, in wood and cigarette smoke and “in burnt foods such as coffee.
Evidence exists to link benzo[a]pyrene to the formation of lung cancer.”
Due to the common practice of burning a dark roast coffee, it behooves those of us that want to enjoy many more years of the brew, to drink roasts that have not been burned.
(BTW, the FDA found more acrylamide in instant coffees than in typical brewed coffees.)

Coffee is a daily routine and ingesting anything possibly carcinogenic several times a day is cause for concern.
Take cigarette smoking, for example. Recurring and consistent exposure leads to increased risk of cancer.

How do you tell if a coffee roast is burned? One way is to drag one of the beans over a white coffee filter.
If it leaves a brown trail, it is burned. Another way is appearance of the bean.
A burned bean is dark brown and very dry, looking much like a cinder.

>>8642101

Seriously, just stop.

You don't have any reputable sources for this horseshit you're slinging and it's contributing to the overall dumbing-down of /ck/.

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>>8642116
Coffee can really lower your body pH -- especially if you drink several cups per day -- and disease, especially cancer, thrives in an acid environment.
Caffeine consumption has been linked to breast cancer, and breast lumps have often regressed in women who adopt the caffeine-restricted Minton Diet.
When coffee is roasted, the carcinogen 3,4 benzopyrene is formed. There have also been identified two other possible carcinogens found in coffee.

Many years ago, Professor Brian MacMahon of the Harvard School of Public Health found that the drinking of three cups of coffee a day increased the risk of pancreatic cancer by a factor of nearly three.
He felt that coffee drinking was the cause of 50% of all pancreatic cancers.
In 1981, Dr. Tim Spencer of the St. Bartholomew's Hospital in London validated MacMahon's research. Prior to 1948, the British people drank tea and very little coffee,
whereas after 1948 there was a vast increase in coffee drinking in England. Dr. Spencer plotted the importation of coffee into England between 1948 and 1973.
During that time, the importation of coffee increased by 120%.
Also during that time the death rate from pancreatic cancer in England increased by 50%.

Cancer is not the only issue.
The caffeine in coffee is also a major stimulant of the sympathetic nerve system, and as such can stress your heart to the point of tachycardia.
Moreover, caffeine is an addictive drug from which many severe withdrawal symptoms are proof of physical dependence;
these symptoms include headache, fatigue, drowsiness, poor concentration, irritability, and brain fog.

>>8642140
What's the end goal, anon?

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You guys are really that dumb that you need science to convince you that consuming burned charred foods
is not good for you.
You need science to convince you that burned charred dark roasted coffee should be avoided if you like
to avoid getting cancer from it.

Can't you see the obvious reason why majority of coffee is roasted to dark roast level, it's not because dark roast produces better tasting coffee
than medium roast (or lighter roasts), it's because low quality coffee beans when roasted to medium or lower levels will taste like shit.
So the tricks roasters use is to burn to charr coffee beans to dark roast level and to create this uniformed harsh taste and that way they can sell
low quality coffee beans at normal prices that otherwise they would have to sell at very discounted price.

See if baker can pull this scam, trying to sell burned charred blackened bread at the same price as the properly baked bread.
Baker could not even give that type of bread away for FREE never mind selling it, but coffee roasters can sell burned charred blackened coffee at regular prices.
Or see if restaurant can convince you to eat and pay for burned charred blackened meat.

But coffee roasters are very lucky in this regard because they brainwashed gullible consumers that dark roast burned charred coffee is as good
and as desirable as properly roasted coffee to medium or lower levels and that you should pay for this very sub-standard product the same
price as you are paying for the quality properly roasted coffee beans.
GREATEST MARKETING SCAM KNOWN TO MAN.

>>8642190
very simple
EXPOSURE OF SCUM AND EXPOSURE OF SCAM AND LIES AND EDUCATION OF MASSES

does this moron realize nobody is actually reading his posts

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Tell me people why baker can not sell this burned charred bread but coffee roasters can sell burned charred coffee beans (charging normal prices for it).
WHAT'S THE SECRET WHAT'S THE TRICK?, my baker friend likes to know.

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Asking for honest business advice.
Do you guys think if I open Cafe and only sell dark roast burned charred coffee beans with selection of burned charred bread can I make good profit on both of them.
Or is there a chance that customers will refuse to buy the burned charred bread but will pay premium price for the burned charred coffee.

>>8642215
k but nobody cares, if you want to rally morons for a cause as stupid as this go to tumblr.

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>>8642237
>>8642256

>>8642237
Because burned bread doesn't taste good.

>>8642256
Yes, because dark roast coffee tastes good, burned bread does not.

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>>8642292
>cause as stupid
Exact same words BIG TOBACCO evil Executives were telling people few years ago that smoking cigarettes is just pure innocent pleasure.
But the smart people finally won.
Same faith is awaiting BIG COFFEE evil Executives.

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>>8642256
>>8642237

Charred bread doesn't taste good because the flour ingredient in the crust takes on an acrid taste.

Coffee beans takes on unique flavor while roasting though.. it's very different and only retards need this explained to them.

other blackened foods that you might like would be charred steaks and smoked bbq.. for instance brisket.

These items take on a blackened/burned appearance but are considered delicious by many because of the complex organic compounds that are created by high temperatures in the case of charred steak and smoke in the case of brisket.

If you were going to open a restaurant that was themed around dark colored food items, I would stay away from bread unless you are serving something like classic german pumpernickel.

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>>8642237
>>8642256
>>8642336

Suggeted bread for a dark colored food establishment.

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>>8642305
Aha, EUREKA !!!!
BURNED CHARRED DARK ROAST COFFEE tastes so delicious that World leading baristas
are proposing that all coffee beans be burned charred to the dark roast level, no more this disgusting
awful testing medium or blond or city roasts.

>>8642336
this poster went FULL RETARD with his stupid explanation lol

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>>8642140
>In 1981, Dr. Tim Spencer of the St. Bartholomew's Hospital in London validated MacMahon's research. Prior to 1948, the British people drank tea and very little coffee,
>whereas after 1948 there was a vast increase in coffee drinking in England. Dr. Spencer plotted the importation of coffee into England between 1948 and 1973.
>During that time, the importation of coffee increased by 120%.
>Also during that time the death rate from pancreatic cancer in England increased by 50%

The US and Russia also tested hundred of nuclear bombs during this time period and the rates of all types of cancer everywhere in the world went through the roof.

>>8642344
I like my Eureka Mignon, thinking of upgrading to a Rocket Fausto in the future for the less clumping tho.

>>8642344
>saying dark roast coffee tastes good is the same as saying it's the only good tasting coffee

Yep, you're a moron.

>>8642349
Moron.

>>8642336
>I would stay away from bread unless you are serving something like classic german pumpernickel.
we are talking about food items like bread or coffee beans that were burned charred,
not the german style pumpernickel bread that is just dark on the inside from the ingredients not from burning in the oven.

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I roast my own sumatran beans to full city + second crack.

>master race reporting in

>>8642379

Classic german pumpernickel is dark like that because it is left in the oven for a very long time and it attains that color because the entire loaf reaches high temperatures and dries out.

You clearly don't know jack shit about what you are talking.

Its not burning. only children like you would call that burning. its reaching a high state of carmelization through out the loaf by reaching high temperatures at which delicious organic compounds are formed.

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>>8642349
>this poster went FULL RETARD with his stupid explanation lol
here is why
>>8642336
>Charred bread doesn't taste good because the flour ingredient in the crust takes on an acrid taste.
>Coffee beans takes on unique flavor while roasting though.. it's very different and only retards need this explained to them.
So the charred coffee beans they don't take on an acrid taste.
Only flour in the bread does. But coffee beans do not, they are immune to very high temperatures.

>>8642396
Great job Master Race.
Smart choice.

>>8642408
>Its not burning.

>>8642379
>not from burning in the oven.
do you read English m-fker

>>8642379
>not the german style pumpernickel bread that is just dark on the inside from the ingredients not from burning in the oven.
>>8642442

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>>8642410
>But coffee beans do not, they are immune to very high temperatures.

This is very true. Bread will blacken at much lower temperatures. Most bread is baked at about 350 degrees F and will turn into a briquette over a long period of time.

Coffee beans on the other hand are roasted to at least 450 degrees in roasters that get much hotter than a standard oven.

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>>8642452
>>8642410
>Only flour in the bread does. But coffee beans do not, they are immune to very high temperatures.
my point was made in a very sarcastic tone, of course coffee is not immune to very high temperatures.
that retard poster was suggesting that charred bread will taste acrid but charred roasted coffee beans will take on unique flavor
>>8642336
>Charred bread doesn't taste good because the flour ingredient in the crust takes on an acrid taste.
>Coffee beans takes on unique flavor while roasting though.. it's very different

the different temperature level for bread and for coffee is irrelevant in this example,
on top of it bread charred on outside can still have good eatable stuff left inside because of it size,
but small coffee bean is burned charred all the way through because is so small, there is nothing good
nothing that is alive left in burned charred small coffee bean.

>>8642531
dark roast coffee tastes good

>>8642531
>charred bread will taste acrid but charred roasted coffee beans will take on unique flavor

This is true though.

>>8642531
>the different temperature level for bread and for coffee is irrelevant in this example

No it isn't. The organic material that coffee beans are made from can be roasted up to 480 degrees without tasting acrid. Furthermore, the internal temperature of the bean is still quite different from the outside temperature of the bean because the bean is more dense and the roast is a much shorter time span than baking bread.

On top of that, the internal temperature of a loaf of bread is moderated and buffered by a high amount of liquid which will only get as high as 212 F before boiling off, which buffers the internal temperature of a loaf to 212 until i starts to dry out. This is why german pumpernickel is cooked for so long. The dough has to dry out in the oven internally for the temperature to get high enough to brown the inside of the loaf. Special pans are often utilized that help transfer the oven heat into the loaf as well.


Coffee beans and bread loaves are made of entirely different components that react to high temperatures entirely differently. While a loaf of bread can be burnt at 350, coffee can be safely roasted to well about 450 and still not even be burnt.

There is a huge difference between browning, roasting, and burning. Coffee that is drinkable is never burnt.

>>8642575
>There is a huge difference between browning, roasting, and burning. Coffee that is drinkable is never burnt.
That's what I'm talking about in here >>8642026 and here >>8642034
I'm talking about burnt charred dark roasted coffee beans, not medium or lower roasted coffee beans.

>>8642593
dark roast coffee is not "bunt charred"
it is drinkable and it tastes good

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>>8642616
EXAMPLE OF DARK ROAST COFFEE BEANS
burned charred dark roast coffee in the middle

>>8642616
>dark roast coffee is not "bunt charred"
>it is drinkable and it tastes good
If it tastes so good tell me why not all coffee is roasted to that dark burned charred level?.
It would simplify things for the roasters and provide coffee drinkers with superior tasting cup of java.
Or maybe your argument is simply stupid and not true.

>>8642664
all "burned charred" coffee is dark roasted coffee however not all dark roasted coffee is "burned charred" coffee (you should really expand you vocabulary, you sound like a child)

>If it tastes so good tell me why not all coffee is roasted to that dark burned charred level?.
>if swiss cheese tastes so good, then why even bother making other cheeses??
nice retard logic

simply because light roast tastes different from medium roast tastes different from dark roast, and there are people who perfer one over the others
I never claimed dark roast is superior to other roasts, just that it tastes good
I can't believe I just had to explain that to you

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I drink this.

16 grams per cup.

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>>8642748

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>>8642726
>all "burned charred" coffee is dark roasted coffee however not all dark roasted coffee is "burned charred" coffee
nice retard logic

>>8642726
>simply because light roast tastes different from medium roast tastes different from dark roast, and there are people who perfer one over the others
>I never claimed dark roast is superior to other roasts, just that it tastes good
>I can't believe I just had to explain that to you
LET ME EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU IN THIS CASE
I explained that very well in this post
>>8642207
and here
>>8642237
and here
>>8642256
and here
>>8642317

this is the main true reason why roasters roast burn charr some coffee beans to dark roast level.
\/
>Can't you see the obvious reason why majority of coffee is roasted to dark roast level, it's not because dark roast produces better tasting coffee
than medium roast (or lighter roasts), it's because low quality coffee beans when roasted to medium or lower levels will taste like shit.
So the tricks roasters use is to burn to charr coffee beans to dark roast level and to create this uniformed harsh taste and that way they can sell
low quality coffee beans at normal prices that otherwise they would have to sell at very discounted price.

Stop twisting and turning like BIG TOBACCO Evil Executives were doing few years ago, but we finally exposed them and their lies
same as we now exposing BIG COFFEE lies.

Had my first cup of coffee when I went to jail, was some of that cheap nasty freeze dried stuff. Didn't have a kettle so just used the hot water from the tap, and powdered milk sometimes if we had any. Shit was cash, felt like I had a line of cocaine afterwards

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>>8642781
>Shit was cash, felt like I had a line of cocaine afterwards
try line of instant coffee, it's very popular now

>>8642789
dont talk to me until i've had my afternoon pick me up

>>8642771
>nice retard logic
it's not though, it's pretty sound
all burned coffee can be considered extra dark roasted
but coffee doesn't have to be burned to be dark roasted
if it's "burned charred" it's totally blackened, by definition. most dark roasts are just a darker shade of brown

I'm not going to read your posts on burnt bread because the second you equated selling dark roast coffee to burnt bread, you invalidated any other point you might have made in thoes posts

burnt bread tastes good to nobody
dark roast coffee tastes good to many
that's why burnt bread doesn't sell and dark roast coffee does, period.

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>>8642817
>dark roast coffee tastes good to many
because of brainwashing especially in the espresso or expresso coffee circles.
Dark roast has a heavy bitter taste.
As espresso usually is served pretty strong, people expect the bitter taste.
Most bars serve 70/30 or 80/20 (natural/dark roast) blends. If the roast is made of the cheaper robusta bean, the coffee shop can save money.
But, you can make an excellent espresso from 100% natural roast arabica beans.
People will notice the difference, even though they're not conscious what it is.

When I talk about a light roast, I'm thinking of what is called a City roast in roaster's terminology.
This is the lightest you can roast a bean to keep maximum origin flavor (you taste more of the bean's taste & less of the flavors from roasting).
Any lighter, and the coffee mostly tastes grassy and sour. Sour flavors diminish as beans roast.

In my mind, a dark roast (for me) is what is called Full City in roaster talk.
There are darker roasts above Full City but before the beans ignite in the roaster (French and Vienna).
To me, these don't exist. I find them acrid, bitter, and lacking any of the interesting flavors I source good coffee beans to experience.

French Roast:
At French Roast level sugars are heavily caramelized (burned) and degraded. This occurs roughly around 460-470 degrees F.
At this stage, the woody bean structure is carbonizing as the seed continues to expand and loose mass.
The body of the resulting cup will be thinner and lighter as the aromatic compounds,
oils, and soluble solids are burned out of the coffee and rise up to fill your house with smoke. Second crack is well finished at this point.

Burnt:
By this point, roughly 470-480 degrees F, it’s too late. You’ve roasted the coffee too dark and will only end up with a bitter cup of charcoal water.
Heat being applied for too long has obliterated all of the volatile compounds that might have added flavor and sweetness.

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>>8642878
>because of brainwashing especially in the espresso or expresso coffee circles.
no. this is absurd

>In my mind, a dark roast (for me) is what is called Full City in roaster talk.
If you think full city is burnt, you're colorblind. Pic related.
If you argued that anything past Vienna is burnt, then I'd agree with you, but saying anything before Vienna is burnt is complete hyperbole and simply ridiculous

Does anyone use a stainless steel press? I used to make coffee upon waking, drink some, then keep it in a stainless tumbler until after I'd showered, but I noticed that the tumbler quickly built up a residue and all my coffee tasted the same and I;m afraid the press will have the same problem.

I don't care so much about the heat retention properties of double-walled steel, but I'd rather get something with no plastic bits.

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>>8642878
>because of brainwashing especially in the espresso or expresso coffee circles.
I noticed that after that line that was mine I did'n include link to the site where I was quoting the info from,
because starting from here
>>8642878
>Dark roast has a heavy bitter taste.
all text is a quote from this site,Seasoned Advice:
Seasoned Advice is a question and answer site for professional and amateur chefs.
Why are dark roast beans usually used for espresso?
http://cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/24176/why-are-dark-roast-beans-usually-used-for-espresso

But I personally don't consider Full City (or even Vienna-Light French) as burned charred dark roast.
Starting from Full French and up,all that is burned charred dark roast.
In this (picture related) everything from number 5 is dark roast.

>>8643409
P.S.
My apology for not including that link in this post, my mistake >>8642878
usually I always include article titles and links when I'm quoting to make it clear,but this time I was in the rush and I skipped this step
(and believe me I did had in my mind that split second feeling that I'm making mistake by not taking the time and posting the title of Seasoned Advice page and the link)
I knew it that by not providing the sauce I'm pretending that those are mine conclusions my own words, but I was in a big rush and wanted to post my response.
This is the honest truth. You can believe it or not.I know my truth.

Extreme lesson not to skip established proper ways of doing things.

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>>8642951
>>8643409
>>8643457
might as well I post the whole thing to make it more transparent
http://cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/24176/why-are-dark-roast-beans-usually-used-for-espresso

"First let's be sure we are on the same page in terms of light and dark.

When I talk about a light roast, I'm thinking of what is called a City roast in roaster's terminology.
This is the lightest you can roast a bean to keep maximum origin flavor (you taste more of the bean's taste and less of the flavors from roasting).
Any lighter, and the coffee mostly tastes grassy and sour. Sour flavors diminish as beans roast.

In my mind, a dark roast (for me) is what is called Full City in roaster talk.
There are darker roasts above Full City but before the beans ignite in the roaster (French and Vienna). To me, these don't exist.
I find them acrid, bitter, and lacking any of the interesting flavors I source good coffee beans to experience.

Here is more detail on degree of roast from a home roasting site / green coffee bean purveyor: http://www.sweetmarias.com/library/content/use-all-five-senses-determine-degree-roast-0
If that link is broken in the future, a quick search for degree of coffee roast should yield a good explanation.
This is all important, because one person's dark roast could be another's light. Moving to use this more standardized language described in the link, empirically,
I find most City to City+ roasts still fairly sour as espresso shots.
That said, sourness varies with bean age, bean origin, and growing season to growing season.
We are talking about a crop here, similar to wine vintages."

>>8643623
P.S. click the gif faggots.and watch

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Oh my, I gassed all the snowflakes faggots here just by lifting my armpit.

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Ok you fucking assholes, you won.
OK. I'm going to the store to buy bread with a very well baked on skin to chew on it.
and you faggots can suck cock in full rage of jealousy

>>8632167
really faggot

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>>8632183
N-NANI

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>>8632183
damn nigger

so you low life nigass got destroyed by few good sentences from CityBoy who golden shower you with facts
and now you suck your ancestors annals just to stay alive begging for crumb of bread or drip of coffee you are so useless.

The so called coffee warriors are known to shit their panties at every occasion that they are asked their name because
they think they are super strong.

>>8644537
they are dark roasting their panties. lol

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Is it safe for me to come back out?

>>8644599
you are the known pedo here
and we with the agencies are monitoring you

>>8641546
Any container for storage should always be airtight. Even if it has valves.
The idea of adding valves is that it releases CO2 in one direction, outward. To release pressure and clean the air of degrading stuff, so to speak.
If it's not airtight then the valve would serve no purpose whatsoever.

Personally I just go with airtight jars for long term. While just tightly sealing bags that the beans come in for short term daily brew that empties quickly from use.

What do you call a double shot cappuccino with a regular amount of milk (~150ml)?

doppio cappuccino?

>>8644902
As I said I felt that the one way valve makes it stale faster or at least my container. At the moment I'm using an air tight jar.
I order a AirScape, even tho they are stupid expensive, IMO. We'll see how it goes.

Anyone using a VST basket? Thinking of getting one but not sure if I should go 18g or 20g.
I have a IMS 18/22g at the moment with convex bottom which is very nice for my bottomless portafilter I feel.

>>8637628
>that first snort of the day

>>8637628
The amount of caffeine in those things is crazy low. That's why it's labelled homeopathic.
And there's a good reason for it. Caffeine is rather insoluble in anything you'd want in your nose.
I know for personal experience making my own up that only around 2mg/ml actually mixes in tops. Any more than that will be loose and clog up the sprayer.
Seeing as it's around 0.1ml per spray usually, that's like

The waking jolt from it is nice, but not powerful. More from the flavor/smell feeling and slight burn than any actual stimulation.

That's caffeine anyway. I don't know why in the HELL you'd want to snort amino acids and whatever 'herb' remains that shit has.
You're better off just mixing up coke in a nasal spray bottle like a real man.

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>>8637628
>>8645599

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Just ordered this 58.55mm beast from TORR.

Gear hype

>>8645758
Yeah. I bought a kilo of the shit for like $15 years ago. Rarely use it any more, but it would never run out anyway.

>>8645777
does it have any taste or smell
how to you use it, snorting or in water
what type of buzz do you get from it and how long does it last

>>8645803
Bitter. Moreso than coffee by power, but not by volume. Like potently bitter, but vague.
It's easy to ignore the flavor when diluted or in large amounts.
That has lead to many people mixing up powders with others. Like supplement users accidentally downing 3g caffeine instead of creatine. Very dangerous. Always label these things well.

I'd go sublingual usually. ~100mg straight powder under the tongue. Swallow remains after saliva builds up for a few minutes. Pretty fast onset, just a few minutes, several hours (4-8?) duration just like oral.

Weighing into capsules works well for portability. Ton cheaper than premade pills. Most valid use.

Snorting is weird. It feels stronger but is not very effective. Like there's actual euphoria, however weak. But most of it just clumps quickly and drips down the throat instead. It's the only real recreational route, but not worth it anyway.

If I were to add it to a drink like water, I'd just drink coffee instead. But I suppose it could be used where water is required, like fiber supplements or whatever.

Vaporizing it is just plain fucktarded, but SCIENCE must happen. So yeah. Heavy on the heart, tastes terrible, largely insoluble in pg/vg for standard ecigs, difficult to work with for dry vaping, clumps up and burns easy which makes it taste worse.

Overall it doesn't have much value. Decent for staving off caffeine dependence. Certainly easier to taper.

>>8645877
Oh yeah, snorting only lasts like 30-60 minutes tops, throat drip aside.
Vaporizing lasts too damn long by feeling, but I never timed and only did it twice.

And back on coffee as a proper cooking topic. I only ever brew coffee as french pressed fine grounds. That powder in the dregs is the best. Like really.

>>8645877
>>8645898
Thanks anon, interesting stuff

>>8645915
It's my hobby.

>>8645959
did you ever tried this
>>8642789

>>8646024
Question: how do I hit on my barista in a way that won't get her in trouble?

Scenario: Currently in grad school and before my late Tuesday class I go to the campus coffee shop to get a peach tea and an espresso shot. The 6/10 barista that works at that time is very flirty with me for the hour that I'm there before class. She's basically my favorite part of the work week. She knows my name and my major and such.

Anyway, It's halfway through the semester at this point and I wanna make sure I get her number or Snapchat or whatever. How can I do this in a way that isn't crass or obscenely unprofessional for her?

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>>8647278
ask her if she ever snorted coffee and invite her to your place to do it togheter
take screen shot of this post and show it to her and tell het that I suggested so it's not your fault
and screen shot this picture >>8642789
actually ask her is she reads /ck/ coffee threads, introduce her to it
just use this thread as your motive

keep us posted faggot

>>8647340
why do you think your autistic forced meme is funny is any way?

>>8647380
I never claimed that is funny, intelligent yes but funny. No.

Also I'm not sure what you referring to as my meme.
point to or STFU

>>8647394
your stupid fucking obsession with snorting coffee

it's neither intelligent nor funny

>>8647394
>point to or STFU
*point to it or STFU

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>>8647400
LOT'S OF PEOPLE ARE DOING IT YOU IDIOT
IT'S NOT FAKE YOU MORON

SAME AS SNORTING COCA POWDER
Chocolate Shooter: Device for snorting cocoa powder gives a new meaning to 'nose candy' (pic related)

Clubbers ditch cocaine for cocoa: Snorting lines of CHOCOLATE is the latest way to get high in Europe's clubs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3617575/Clubbers-ditch-cocaine-cocoa-Snorting-lines-CHOCOLATE-latest-way-high-Europe-s-clubs.html

WHY SNORTING CACAO COULD BE THE NEXT BIG PARTY DRUG
http://www.maxim.com/news/cacao-party-drug-2016-5

Can You Really Get High From Snorting Chocolate?
http://herb.co/2016/06/06/high-snorting-chocolate/

here faggot get familiar because it sounds that you are living under the rock and know shit

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>>8647441
oh, you're the same moron spamming the dark roast coffee shit

>>8647450
no i'm not fuck off

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I Tried Smoking Coffee, and It Made Me Feel Like Shit
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/smoking-coffee-is-stupid

Stupid idea of the week: smoking coffee grounds
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/m3dwi/stupid_idea_of_the_week_smoking_coffee_grounds/

Smoking Coffee: A Dumb New Trend?
http://www.livescience.com/44483-smoking-coffee-trend.html


Enrich your coffee experiences faggots and get familiar with new trends (you don't have to do it)
but be at least aware of them so you don't sound stupid reacting to those who post pictures of people snorting coffee.
Or smoking coffee or snorting coca powder

>>8647514
I knew an old fat neckbeard that claimed to get high from smoking store bought poppy seeds, he'd pack a homemade bong full of seeds and start smoking up, smelled terrible.

He's probably reading this right now.

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>>8647540
>smoking store bought poppy seeds,
very interesting. I'm going to try that in next few days with cup of cappuccino

shut it down

>>8647570
chicken

>>8647560
>that pic

I was talking about the poppy seeds in the bottle, they wash those a few times...really stupid to smoke. If you can get full dried pods like your pic it still wouldn't work, brewing it in a tea is the only option with the pods.

>>8647624
>If you can get full dried pods like your pic it still wouldn't work,
why wouldn't work?

>>8647514
Dude, you have to try VAPING caffeine.

>>8647681
is it really good?
i don't have vaping apparatus but maybe this will motivate me to buy it
i was thinking about buying it for last few months to vape mj
just have to do some research for good vaper
any suggestions

>>8647696
i'm looking for desk top vapor, not portable.

>>8632167
Just got my first Keurig. What varieties are best? I'm really digging Tully Hawaiian Blend, and Green Mountain Dark Magic.

any fellow Moka Express patricians here?

I just want to date my barista...

I love coffee but it gives me serious jitters and shits ;_;

>>8649223
I had that too and just kept drinking and even a bit more until I got over it physically. I went back to the amount I want to drink a day and I don't have jitters now.

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>>8649190

I get that increasing your caffeine intake can cause this, but will the heart palpitations go if I keep drinking coffee and get my body used to it? Because it's scary as shit dude, but caffeine is so useful

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Can you make any nice dishes with coffee? No, not desserts.

>>8632167
are these coffee anime things real?

>>8635977
>sound my penis with it

explain

>>8649805
sounding means inserting a rod into your penis

>>8649910
that's honestly hot as fuck

>>8649802
Are your eyes real?

>>8650017
no

>>8649799
wrong message inside of that cup, it should be;
Coffee is Shit, Enjoy your Life