>doesn't eat raw chicken >doesn't eat raw pork

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There is literally nothing wrong with chicken tartare

>>8628401
>raw beef
Tartare.
>raw pork
The fuck do you know, I've been eating raw bacon since I was a child. Worms are almost nonexistent in this day and age, and I also buy smoked bacon, as it's been smoked and is thus not completely raw.
>raw chicken
If nothing else, the taste and texture are just gross. Hilarious coming from someone that likes raw bacon though, right?

raw fish tastes good raw

>>8628401
Fish eaten raw as in sashimi is served freshly killed or flash-frozen to prevent bacterial contamination

You can eat raw chicken and beef provided they're fresh and not something you bought from the supermarket, both raw beef and chicken are thinly sliced and served as sashimi

Pork isn't usually eaten without some form of curing because it's traditionally more susceptible to zoonotic parasites like trichnella and many countries have laws against serving it raw. .

>>8628407
salmonella

>>8628416
>tartare
Prion disease
>raw pork
Trichniosis. Worms need to be killed by heat.
>raw chicken
salmonella poisoning

>>8628439
If salmonella tastes """good""" to you. I'll stick to my chicken tenders thanks.

>>8628532
If it's frozen it was never fresh to begin with, yuck. You can't eat either unless you want mad cow disease, salmonella, trichnosis, or other parasites and diseases. What kind of subhuman doesn't take advantage of fire? The most basic human innovation.

>>8628579
Everything else aside (because I don't have a major complaint with it), prions are not killed by cooking. They're proteins. You would need to incinerate a food to kill prions.

The ocean is constantly moving and self filtering.

The Earth is kind of just a big pile of shit.

Also, who the fuck doesn't eat raw beef?

Please correct me if im wrong, but doesn't the salmonella bacteria only live in the gastrointestinal tract and cooking the outside kills all bacteria. So the risk of getting salmonella poisoning by undercooked chicken should be quite low.

>>8629226
Wouldn't the heat denaturate them and make them lose their function/effect?

>>8629311
No. The function of proteins is to...protein, and prions are just slightly different proteins. Anything that would not destroy a normal protein will not destroy a prion.

>>8629400
>>8629311
Proteins can neither be created or destroyed

>>8628579
I read that as Prison Disease.

>>8628579
>breathing
Inhale cancerous fumes

I bet OP eats raw dicks.

>>8628401
>raw chicken
Salmonella. Slimy texture.

>raw pork
Doesn't taste good. Fat needs to be rendered. Disease.

>raw beef
Tastes best medium rare.

>>8628407
>It doesn't taste very good
>It always has a very high chance of giving you unpleasant diseases
I honestly don't understand why chicken is so dirty

>>8629400
Hope this is bait but heating a protein denatures it and deactivates any sort of function it has other than exisiting. You'd still eat the prion but it will have no effect.

>>8628401
>not eating raw horse meat
get on my level

>>8629845
>Prions can be destroyed through incineration providing the incinerator can maintain a temperature of 900 F for four hours. In an autoclave, prions can be deactivated by using a temperature of 270 F at 21 psi for 90 minutes. If the infectious material is in a solution of sodium hydroxide, deactivation will occur after one hour at 250 F and 21 psi.

Your shit would get burned or way overcooked

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>>8628401

I can explain raw pork. Pork tapeworm travels throughout your body and can make cysts in your brain and kill you. So freeze that shit or whatever. ib4 1st world doesn't have pork tapeworms.

>>8629948
That doesn't make sense to me. Why can the temp to sterilize be so much lower with such an insignificant pressure increase in the autoclave. Normal pressure is like 15 psi

>>8629953
>1st world doesn't have pork tapeworms.
it doesn't

>>8629978
Pressure cookers and shit don't count our natural 1atm, they use it as a zero point.

>>8630007
and prediction complete

Anyone have the x-ray pics from that Chinese person that's been eating raw pork for years?

>>8628579
Heat does not get rid of mad cow eating raw beef is safe just not ground beef

>>8630074
I see. Thanks.

>>8628579
>What kind of subhuman doesn't take advantage of fire?
Americans who eat tartare beef?

>>8630172
Jesus Christ

>>8630309
>>8630172
Google it. It was a Chinese woman, she's still younger than 30 I believe but since the age of 10 all the way to 23 she ate raw pork, it was the tribe's tradition to.
X-rays showed that her muscles, organs, brain, hell even her tongue is infected.

>>8630360
Infected with what?

>>8630414
prions

youtube.com/watch?v=9aoTr9CbHew

>>8630414
Oh. From a pork tapeworm Taenia solium
>>8630415
?????

>>8630426
This video is reddit incarnate.

>>8629411
>>>/sci/

>>8630426
this dude should kill himself 2bhonest

>>8630079
not an argument

>>8631289
>>8631264
not an argument

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>>8628401
>doesn't eat raw pork
I ate a shit ton of Nem Chua when I lived by my parents, anyone familiar with this ?

>>8628401
By now I have eaten everything on that list due to fucking up while cooking

I ate some pork sausage tonight that was still a bit pink inside/slightly undercooked. Am I okay?

>>8628401
Chicken: I dunno
Pork: Mett
Beef: Steak Tartar. Also Mett.

>>8631454
Plenty of sausages are uncooked, but not "raw"

>>8631454
Vietfag here.

It's cured, my man.

>>8631296
>>8631315
not an argument

>>8628416
Your bacon is never "raw."
It's always cured. Sugar cured, salt cured, smoke cured.
Unless you're buying your bacon from a butcher... then, SOMETIMES, it's truly Raw.

>>8632739
>hurr curing means cooking!
Read a fucking book dude.

>>8632739
cooking literally means to use heat

>>8629275
>Please correct me if im wrong, but doesn't the salmonella bacteria only live in the gastrointestinal tract and cooking the outside kills all bacteria.
You're wrong. That's their preferred environment, but they can live for weeks outside a body. That's why salmonella risk from eggs is a thing, for example. And while most infections are from salmonella on the shell, one in 20,000 or so are infected inside the egg. (I think that was US stats...google if you want to know more).

>>8628401
All carry various risks, and ways of mitigating them, but one obvious difference is that poultry, swine, and cattle are warmblooded, so bacteria harbored by their corpses are adapted to a similar body temperature to humans, and are more likely to survive and cause illness in humans as well.

>>8633919
>fish are cold-blooded even though they'd freeze to death in the cold water if they weren't warm-blooded
Do you think before you just shitpost?

>>8633890
>you're wrong because of these extremely uncommon examples why
kys pedantic faggot

>>8633924
Not him but fish are cold-blooded and your stupid reasoning won't change that.

1) Water isn't freezing temperature
2) Insulation.

I believe there's only one warm-blooded fish.

>>8633930
>Not him but
Okay Captain Reddit.

>1) Water isn't freezing temperature
Ice is you fucking idiot. Water in its liquid state is a loose wet form but when it gets sub-0 Celsius or sub-32F it freezes into a solider form (ice)>

>2) Insulation
Fish move around to much to live in one place retard and most fish dwellings aren't insulation

If you cut a fish open it'd be warm not cold to the touch. Fucking idiot wanna be "scientists..."

>>8633953
>ice is
Ice is not water.

>insulation
I'm talking about the insulation they have on their body.

You can meme all you want because you're embarrassed, but fish are cold-blooded save one species (to the extent of our scientific knowledge).

http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/cold-blooded.html
>n 2015, researchers with the NOAA Southwest Fisheries Science Center revealed the opah, or moonfish, as the first fully warm-blooded fish

>>8633967
>Ice is not water.
If ice melts what does it turn into you fucking retard?

And FYI WARM-BLOODED AQUATIC MAMMALS aren't cold-blooded either you fucking moron. Whales, dolphins, porpoises, manatees, seals, sea lions, walruses, etc. all not cold-blooded.

>>8633971
>If ice melts what does it turn into you fucking retard?

Exactly. It was Ice. Then if you melt it it becomes water. But ice itself is not water. It's ice. And likewise if you boil water it becomes steam. Ice, steam, and water are three different things. Ice is a solid. Steam is a gas. Water is a liquid.

>>8633983
Wow you sure did pass fucking kindergarten science today. I hope you go chug some bleach to properly award your dumb ass parents (whom'st I hope have cancer)

>>8633971
The definition of water demands it to be liquid. The definition of ice demands it to be frozen. Ice is not water. Gas is not liquid and liquid is not solid. If you're going to appeal to science, you should understand states of matter.

>And FYI WARM-BLOODED AQUATIC MAMMALS aren't cold-blooded either you fucking moron. Whales, dolphins, porpoises, manatees, seals, sea lions, walruses, etc. all not cold-blooded.
I agree. But fish are not mammals so that is irrelevant.

You should stop replying, you're just making yourself look even stupider.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fish
>any of numerous cold-blooded strictly aquatic craniate vertebrates that include the bony fishes and usually the cartilaginous and jawless fishes and that have typically an elongated somewhat spindle-shaped body terminating in a broad caudal (see caudal 2) fin, limbs in the form of fins when present at all, and a 2-chambered heart by which blood is sent through thoracic gills to be oxygenated freshwater fish tropical fish

>>8634022
>inb4 hurr durr merriam webster not a real dictionary

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fish
>A limbless cold-blooded vertebrate animal with gills and fins living wholly in water.

>>8634034
>>8634022
samefag

>>8633846
>>8633854

I read plenty. I believe it's your reading comprehension that needs work. Could you kindly point out the word "cooked" for me in my post?

>>8634081
yes i thought i made that obvious

>>8634277
You implied the word you dipshit now go back to being a line cook at McDonalds little boy I make $20,000 a YEAR.

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>>8634081
>samefag
No shit, mong-child.

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>>8634344
>>8634321
>hurrrrrrr its okay to admit to shitposting
fuck off

>>8634326
No, he wrote:

>Your bacon is never "raw."
>It's always cured. Sugar cured, salt cured, smoke cured.

Cured meat isn't raw. Nobody considers cold-smoked salmon to be 'raw'. Ceviche isn't raw.

>>8634375
Then by that logic neither is tartare which is usually smoke blended (flash fried to you noobs). The thing is that my bacon IS raw. I get it smoked from a buddy of mine but the smoke cure doesn't make heat just cus it comes from the heat. I have a water cooled billow I use to heatlessly smoke my meats.

Also kill yourself for bringing up ceviche into the argument when we were talking about bacon. Typical goal-post shifting conservaturd. Literally stay in your flyover containment state please. We (CA) don't want or need your culinary advice, you have NO experience!

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Am I reading this thread wrong or did someone claim fish were warm-blooded and then try to defend his stupidity by trying to lump marine mammals in with fish?

>>8634386
Flash frying anything cooks it. Literally.

>>8634388
Literally no one did that, are you illiterate? Read the thread instead of shitposting, brainlet.

>>8634386
>Then by that logic neither is tartare which is usually smoke blended (flash fried to you noobs). The thing is that my bacon IS raw. I get it smoked from a buddy of mine but the smoke cure doesn't make heat just cus it comes from the heat. I have a water cooled billow I use to heatlessly smoke my meats.
True but I think the real problem is when you bring up the word cure into the discussion and people twist your words around. It fucking sucks and it's happened to me already ITT by an idiot misrepresenting my posts.

>>8634386
So your bacon is cold-smoked like cold-smoked (not raw) salmon. And so it's been cured, just like bacon in supermarkets, which also isn't raw.

ITT; people who think prosciutto is raw meat

>>8629837 ask the degenerate farmers who slave for Tyson or Goldn'plump.

>>8634396
You're pretty dumb lol

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>>8629640

>>8634386
Youre wrong accept it

>>8634362
It wasnt shitposting it was refuting someones stupid argument.

>>8634326
No, I didn't imply the word. Stop being such a whiny faggot.

>$20,000 a year

Try harder, fag. I make $23.84 an hour, which is about $47,840 a year, minus my benefit payout of $4000 a year, and any overtime I may accumulate... and I'm a cook. Suck me sideways.

Everyone itt is getting taken for a ride by an anon pretending to be more retarded than someone could possibly be irl

>>8629845

Prions are a problem because they form very resilient chains of misfolded protein that can fragment and recruit other proteins into them. Prion diseases like CJD affect brain proteins; the chains destroy your brain cells and turn the brain into Swiss cheese. Heat denaturing is not only more difficult to do to prions, they can also refold. Heat doesn't permanently denature most proteins, and the only way to be sure they're gone is to torch every last molecule. Even a few prion molecules will be able to start the disease on a new person, so there's not a lot of room for error.

>>8634396
>Literally no one did that, are you illiterate? Read the thread instead of shitposting, brainlet.
Kek you did

>>8633971

You also said ice is water. Confirmed moron.

>>8633924
>>8633953
You do know that an animal being cold or warm blooded doesn't mean its blood is literally cold or warm, right?

Fish are warm blooded. That's why their blood is warm.

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>>8628401
It's very simple, anon. I enjoy the taste of cooked chicken, beef and pork. I don't enjoy the taste of cooked fish. However, when you eat fish raw, You don't get that fishy taste, and it becomes more of a textural experience, which is a win win for me, as I am enjoying said health benefits from eating fish in moderation.

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>>8635186
Agreed.

>>8634396
kek just stop posting anytime, you embarrassed yourself already

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raw beef tastes great actually, pic related. the only reason why we don't eat more raw meat is because the way its handled promotes bacterial contamination.

>>8636695
>raw beef
Enjoy your mad cow disease

>>8638360
MCD is not affected by cooking temperatures. It is a prion.

>>8638397
A prion is a misfolded protein you fucking idiot. Heating it doesn't do shit, enjoy your Swiss cheese girl brain faggot.

>>8636695
I get this "seasoned steak" from a package that is about 7 inch long strips of "taco meat". It's pure fucking steak but with seasonings. Eat it raw, all the time, god damn raw meat is good, I don't understand why we built fire

>>8638405
Did you reply to the wrong person?

>>8638406
>be dumb protohuman
>don't use fire to cook meat
>as consequence meat and other food takes longer to digest
>always stay dumb protohuman because no calorie surplus

>>8638416
if "calorie surplus" automatically makes you smarter, why aren't fatasses acing all the IQ tests?

>>8638410
Do you already have prion disease you raw meat loving cuck?

>>8638428
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. So I'll repeat:

MCD is caused by prions. Prions do not get affected by heat. If you eat meat contaminated with MCD you will be infected regardless if it is raw or well-done.

>>8638432
lol only idiots dont understand this. mad cow woudlnt have been such a big scare if normal levels of heat was all you needed to prevent it. the problem was that people were buying hamburgers at mcdonalds and dying of irreversible brain damage months later.

>>8628416
>wow dude look at me big american tough boy here who like RAAAW bacon, just eat it raw dude, so good

You are not eating raw bacon you retard. You are eating smoked bacon, or cured in some other way. Literally everybody eats that

But why not. Go to a butcher and ask for raw bacon. Tell him to slice you a piece and eat it in front of him. Fucking hick

>>8638480
>not eating raw bacon

If he's eating traditionally cured and cold smoked bacon, he's eating raw bacon. The curing with salt and sodium nitrite does not "cook" the meat nor does it kill trichonosis parasites. Neither does cold smoking since the temperature never exceeds 70F.

t. Make my own cold smoked bacon from pork bellys.

>>8638557
Aren't you a real talented fella?

Making your own bacon and that. Do you also have a mustache and some sailor tats. Brewing your own beer?

You Americans really think you are some high shit just because you stray a little bit out of ordinary

It's not raw bacon you are eating. I have a shed for curing kielbasas, goat cheese and bacon in the backyard. Try eating raw bacon and then smoked one and come back to me. Sure it doesn't fucking cook it but it does cure it.

t. Been making meat products out of hogs ever since I was four

>>8638590
>Sure it doesn't fucking cook it but it does cure it

Did you even read my post, ya googad? I said curing is not equal to cooking. The assertion, scheisskopff, was that the bacon was "cooked" because it was cold smoked and cured. This is patently false. And yes, I do brew my own beer as well as make my own kielbasa. Now, you may shove your thumb directly up your ass and apologize since you have been /rekt/.

>>8638426
To busy frickin' ur mom lmao

>>8638612
Oh fuck off hipster

>>8638590
Holy shit what a fucking loser you must be haha

>>8638620
>Waaahhh
I lmao at ur life my dude

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>>8638621
>>8638628
Doesn't make you any less hipster, American

>>8638590
>>8638480

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/raw
>(of food) not cooked.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/raw
>not cooked

While bacon is indeed cured, it is still raw.


I understand being wrong on 4chan sucks but it happens to the best of us. Just man up and take the loss.

>>8638643
Wow you are a fucking idiot, it's COOKED smoking means its cooked and don't bring a fucking dictionary into a real debate it makes you look sarcastic and retarded.

If you cured bacon its already basically COOKED from the heat from the smoke. Only a fucking retarded TODDLER can't understand this.

>>8628401
Ever eaten pussy?

>>8638650
He specifically said cold-smoked.

>>8638667
>fire is cold!
There is literally L I T E R A L L Y no way to create "cold smoke", the source is always a fire which involves heat.

If it says "cold smoked" you are buying into a meme.

>>8638638
You American are all the same.

>>8638681
http://www.theblackpeppercorn.com/2014/06/how-to-make-bacon-homemade-and-smoked/

>Cold smoking bacon is a much longer process and more closely resembles the bacon you would buy in the store. The smoking temperature for cold smoked bacon is obviously on the lower side, under 100F. Popular temperatures for cold smoking is around 75F.

>inb4 75F is cooking

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i have my pork medium

>>8638689
>-100F
>cooking
PICK 1
Thank you for defeating your own "argument" fucking IQlet lmao

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>>8638638
Listen here you piece of garbage. If I ever catch you stinking up my cooking board on my favorite japanese pedophile website there WILL be consequences and you WILL suffer the wrath of a thousand burning swords. My army of NEET soldiers are currently triangulation your position with advanced spoofs that goofs like yourself could never dream of.

You already stepped on the landmine kiddo. Any move you make from now on is the wrong one.

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>>8638681
>cold smoke is a meme

My fire box is separated from my meat chamber by a pipe (pic related). The smoke travels through the pipe and cools before reaching the meat chamber. I've placed an instant read thermometer in the meat chamber and the temperature does not exceed ambient air temperature. In fact when cold smoking salmon, you want to make sure the temp doesn't exceed 70F and since I usually do that in July when I can get fresh wildcaught sockeye and ambient temperature can be over 90F, I put a tray of ice in the meat chamber to keep it cool.

You're fucking wrong, nutsack, and too stubborn to admit it.

>>8638716
100F is not cooking. No harmful bacteria dies at 100F. 100F is about the temperature of a hot summer day where I live.

At this point you are just embarrassing yourself. Feel free to stop replying anytime.

>>8638737
>cooking is defined as the elimination of bacteria
nope

>>8638737
>if I leave my meat at room temperature and blow some smoke on it I'm cooking!
American education system ladies and gents.
How about if you wanted to actually kill the harmful bacteria you, I don't know, fucking cook the meat lmao.

>>8638729
Aint nobody gonna wanna eat out of your nasty ass ash tray, get real faggot.

Oh and by the way that's still not "cooking" the meat, if it doesn't reach cooking temperatures.
I hope you stick your useless ugly head in that fucking meat chamber and see how not-cooked your faggot a la AIDS self will turn out.

>>8638745
100F is not cooking.

>>8638747
There's multiple ways to kill bacteria. Heat is not the only way.

Both non-Americans in this thread(that have outed themselves) have really shown to be total morons.

>>8638753
>Aint nobody
kys

>Oh and by the way that's still not "cooking" the meat,
That's entirely the point. It is not cooked. It is raw.

>>8638754
>accidentally undercook nasty salmon
>t-that's the point!
You can't make this shit up holy fuck I'm laughing so hard.

Literally, kill yourself.

>>8638760
not an argument

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>>8638765
>be europoor
>say something stupid
>get btfo by multiple different people
>start samefag shitposting left and right to cover up

>>8628579
Prions

>Prions are simply proteins, not living organisms, and they can survive almost anything, even hundreds of degrees of heat.

If your food has prions in it you're fucked.

>>8638747
>How about if you wanted to actually kill the harmful bacteria
Why would there be harmful bacteria on a piece of meat intended for consumption, anon? If your food is so trash that you have to sterilize it before consumption - perhaps, you know, stop buying trash. We in the rest of the world can make mayonnaise with unpasteurised egg, eat unpasteurised cheese, dried sausages and charcuteries, rare meats and even ground beef all day long and not get """salmunelluh""".

Just saying.

>>8638783
>Prions are alive!
>only living things create them
Dumbest post ITT by kilometres.

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>>8638823
His post implied neither of those things. Stop shitposting because you said something stupid and got called out on it.

Prions are not alive and prions do not get killed in cooking temperatures. These are facts, throwing a loud hissy fit ad shitposting loudly will not change your status from BTFO.

>>8638784
>Why would there be harmful bacteria on a piece of meat intended for consumption, anon

Because there is harmful bacteria literally everywhere. Your skin is covered in it. So is every object around you. Unless you're talking about surgical instruments that just came out of an autoclave or the interior of a blast furnace, it contains potentally harmful pathogens.

People can and do eat "risky" foods all the time. They do contain harmful bacteria, just not in enough quantity to matter.

>>8638840
>Because there is harmful bacteria literally everywhere. Your skin is covered in it.
>tfw licked my own skin and didn't die or get sick
kek imagine being this much of a germaphobe though.


not all bacteria is harmful faggot.

>>8638834
>Prions are not alive and prions do not get killed in cooking temperatures.
Objectively wrong. Prions are misfolded proteins that animals make. Your bones aren't "alive" but incineratering them will destroy them completely. I'm a arts major but even I know that.

>ad
I think you meant and* sweetie oh but keep loudly shitposting and namecalling it definitely makes your argument legit (sarcasm) *rolls eyes*

>>8638840
If you live in a toilet maybe but if I were to test my meats for bacteria they'd have zero on them because meat is suppposed to be clean when you buy it.

>>8638847

I never said anything about being afraid of them, I simply said that the bacteria are present.

Of course you don't (usually) get sick when you lick your skin, that's what your immune system is for. You only get sick when you are exposed to a large amount of bacteria AND your immune system fails to fight them off.

>>8638852
>they'd have zero on them because meat is suppposed to be clean when you buy it.

You are out of touch with reality. Nothing in this world outside of a literal autoclave is sterile. Literally nothing. Bacteria are all around us, on everything. We don't get sick because of our immune system.

>>8638852
>Objectively wrong
Just because animals make protein doesn't make them alive. Prions are not alive.I repeat: Prions are not a form of life, much like viruses.

http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=2648
>As for prions, prions are not at all considered alive.

Prions are not alive.

>incineratering them will destroy them completely
Incinerating is not cooking temperatures.

>I'm a arts major
It shows.

>>8638860
Again, not all bacteria is harmful. There's plenty of good bacteria.

>>8638872
>not all bacteria is harmful
You're a fucking idiot dude. Go rub your nasty ass hands in a dumpster and lick them all day long but leave civilized, healthy people out of it. There is literally no such thing as a "good bacteria" all the ones that are bad are bad because they evolved to kill humans and the "good" ones can do that too.
My house is spotless, I sanitize it daily with bleach, 409, ammonia and CLR I have never gotten a cold since 3 years ago and my kitchen is so clean you could eat off of the surfaces.

>>8638888
>There is literally no such thing as a "good bacteria"
How many times do you want to get BTFO in this thread? I'm going to have to pass the luxury off to someone else because I'm getting tired of doing it, actually.

http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/list-good-bacteria-7771.html
>inb4 blog

>http://microbemagic.ucc.ie/about_microbes/good_bacteria.html
>Bacteria aren’t all bad, in fact you couldn’t survive without some bacteria!
>inb4 pfft o-one source..

>http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/probiotics-17/slideshow-probiotics
>inb4 pfft american doctors..

>http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/4s0XkHq0HxZhjd5V2lQ2LRm/do-probiotics-do-any-good
>My house is spotless, I sanitize it daily with bleach, 409, ammonia and CLR I have never gotten a cold since 3 years ago and my kitchen is so clean you could eat off of the surfaces.
If you went outside you'd probably be hospitalized.

>>8638612
>googad

lmao what

>>8638840
>They do contain harmful bacteria, just not in enough quantity to matter.
Good, good. The point is sinking in.
>There is literally no such thing as a "good bacteria"
Eh, I see the great American Education System is out in full force again. Please reeducate yourself. There are not only ood bacteria, but there are essential bacteria. You have more bacterial cells living in and on you than human cells. Without them you'd ... not be very well. Likely not even alive.

>>8638968
He's actually a European believe it or not. Unless he's being ironic earlier with his america bashing.

>>8638968
The clean freak guy who says there are no good bacteria also claimed that america is not civilized because wherever he's from you can buy meat that he thinks is clean of all bacteria in the store.

>>8628401
people say eating raw chicken is bad for you but Ive been doing it for years and I only got salmonella a handful of times.

>>8638432

It's called Mad Cow DISEASE, take the fucking hint.

>Disease
>"prions aren't alive!"
Bill Nye is rolling in his grave right now. Literally kill yourself right now

>>8640771
not an argument

>>8640771
come on now bud this is just weak

>>8628401
Sushi is disgusting and you get parasites from it

This thread makes me feel sorry for the human race. So many god damn idiots.

>prions are alive!
>cold-smoked bacon is cooked!
>all bacteria are bad!

What the fuck is going on with European education? And I notice that "sweetie" is constantly used in this board some autist who consistently gets BTFO.

Speaking about prions, aren't they close to non-existent by now ? I thought they were only present in animal spinal cord, brain and shit like that.

>>8642481
Well MCD is considered one of the rarest diseases on the planet so that's gone. There's some concerns in wild game, deers and bears etc, as prions have been going up in their population but it's still such an infinitesimal amount.

As long as prions continue to stay in the nervous system the risk from them should be gone.

>>8636035
I agree with this, actually.

I don't like cooked salmon at all, but I enjoy salmon sashimi. I don't like most cooked fish I find and the fish I do like is usually served fried or blended with so many other things that I can't taste it at all. But I've liked just about every raw fish I've eaten. I've never thought about this before.

I do like non-fish sea creatures, though, like scallops and crustaceans and eel and whatnot.

>>8628579
salmonella is pretty much extinct if you don't live in a shithole such as america

>>8638888
>no such thing as "good bacteria"
do you eat cheese or digest food? good bacteria.

>>8643410
>salmonella is pretty much extinct if you don't live in a shithole such as america

https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/topic/salmonella
>Salmonella is a bacterium that can cause an illness called salmonellosis in humans. In the European Union (EU), over 100,000 human cases are reported each year. EFSA has estimated that the overall economic burden of human salmonellosis could be as high as EUR 3 billion a year.


>inb4 n-not e-european

>>8643421
Yurocucks on suicide watch.

Inb4
>hurr salmonella isn't alive

>>8628407
See
>>8643421

>>8628401
i dont even eat fish but i assume its easier to eat fresh because its easier to bring a live fish into the kitchen and have a prepared meal in 10 minutes

>>8646824
Because people feel land animals are dirtier than sealife.

Land animals live next to humans so we have this subconscious awareness that those land animals will be in contact with pesticides and other shit.

Also, the fact some human diseases originated from land animals and not sea life.

I have never heard of a fish giving something like "Fishpox" to Humans.

That is why we think raw fish is much more tolerable to eat than raw land animals.

Also, the childish imagination that the Ocean is one Big Brine so we kinda think the Fish are already being Cured.

Not only that but I guess it is easier to sterilize fresh fish so later you can eat it raw.

No one flash freezes entire cow bodies like how they flash freeze freshly caught fish bodies in massive quantities.

So yeah, just my thoughts on this. I'm no expert.

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>>8643417
>"""""""""""good""""""""""'""" bacteria
>dey gud bois dey dindu nuffin!
Tell that to the TRILLIONS that bacterial diseases have killed you piece of shit. Literally kill yourself if you think bacteria is a good thing. Ever,

>>8647287
low quality bait

>>8647356
low IQ poster

>>8647377
not an argument

>>8647390
But it's true. Go wallow in your own filth little boy. Adults wash their hands and take precautions against bacteria. Just sayin'

>>8647413
not an argument

>>8647413
As a different adult, i will say that i wallow in filth and wait for the various bacteria in our world to take me to my grave. I take no such precautions.

>>8647445
You're dismissed since you have nothing else to say sweetie.

>>8647458
Awwww why don't you just kill yourself, honey?

>>8647468
I'm a coward.

>>8647468
>honey
sweetiefag detected

When did you recover from the previous thread you got BTFO in?

https://warosu.org/ck/thread/S8610133

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Fucking hell how long have you been trolling this board with sweetie crap? At least 2014? What a sad, sad life.

filtered btw

>>8628401
Sushi/sashimi grade stuff usually goes through a flash-freezing process that kills the parasites. The other things you listed aren't usually eaten raw because they are associated more with other contaminations like bacteria, but they probably could be eaten raw if prepared properly.

>Explain this /ck/.
Different animals have different diseases, some of which our immune systems can handle, some of which it cannot. Each needs different amounts of cooking to make safe to eat.

>>8647555
^This.
Also, the prep has a lot to do with it. Do you know that most countries don't refrigerate eggs because of how they're prepared?

>>8647579
The only thing you prep is your wife's bull.

>>8647579
It's because of how we prepare them that makes it so we have to refrigerate them. We wash them in soap and water just in case they have muh salmonella and this strips a protective barrier the egg naturally has that would keep bacteria out. So what did lovely America decide to? Spray it with oil and refrigerate them. Why we can't just wash our own eggs at home baffles me.

Also Europe vaccinates egg-laying hens which US would never do because muh profits.

>>8647608
>>>/tv/

>>8647635
Board, kid? Nothing to do on a Saturday night but troll /ck/? Try masturbating, you seem a little tense.

>>8647628

Well the nice thing about refrigerating them is that they have a longer shelf life. If we would just vaccinate them, we'd have double the advantages of keeping diseases out.

>>8634386
>tartare which is usually smoke blended (flash fried to you noobs)
In Murica maybe, but it's way more often entirely raw and uncooked. There's been a trend some years ago, but nowadays almost no restaurant offer to cook their tartare.

Try some raw chicken and see if you want to continue. The texture is pretty unpleasant.

>>8648476
I don't want salmonella, this is retarded advice. Kill yourself if you want to but leave me out of it

>>8633926
a little wrong is still wrong.

>>8649788
this is why no one likes you

>>8635140
This is objectively false. Wrong again you fucking idiot. Guess what? Cold blooded animals usually bask in heat or are insulated from the cold in some fashion. Learn how to fucking read...

>>8649824
Would you consider a glass of water sitting in a warm room to be cold? Contemporary biologists use the terms ectotherm and endotherm because warm-blooded and cold-blooded are misleading.

>>8650103
Is 70 degrees cold compared to 98? Yes.

>>8628401
I know its hard to understand, but just because something has the same context doesn't mean they ARE the same.

like
>doesn't fuck a horse
>doesn't fuck a corpse
>doesn't fuck a grapefruit

>will fuck a 20 year blond girl with double C's and a thicc ass

Are you understanding any of this?

>>8650111
Nobody said the room is 70 degrees. Apart from warm and cold being subjective, temperature isn't an inherent property of ectotherm blood any more than it is of water.

>>8650162
Double C's isn't a thing, retard.

>>8650250
>Would you consider a glass of water sitting in a warm room

I consider a warm room about 70 degrees. Sorry you live in a hell hole where that's either cold or hot.

>>8643410
>>8643421
I worked at a chicken farm as a teenager. That was more than 10 years ago. Every month a vet came and took blood tests from the animals. If there would have been salmonella then every single animal had been killed and cremated.

>>8650258
I'm sorry to hear that your girlfriend had breast cancer. I hope she's recovering from the mamectomy well.

>>8650273
>muh anecdotal evidence
no one cares

>>8650162
>>8650277
>double c's
what a virgin

>>8650283
It's not anecdotal. It's the law where I live.

>>8650286
no one cares about your small village

>>8650277
>>8650162
t. perpetual virgin

>>8650292
Ok

>>8650262
I actually live in California where 70 degrees is usually about room temperature.

>I consider
But thanks for illustrating my point.

>>8650364
>Would you consider a glass of water sitting in a warm room to be cold
>Nobody said the room is 70 degrees
>70 degrees is usually about room temperature.
autism

>>8628416
if it's not smoked it's not bacon it's side pork

>>8650620
If it's not smoked it's not cooked retard. KYS

is raw insects bad?

>>8650532
Dude that's not cool just because you're too fucking stupid to understand basic shit like termperature doesn't mean you can slur a fraction of the population. My cousin, my little brother, my step brother, my adoptive step brother and my nephew all have autism. It is NOT a thing to fucking joke about and you wouldn't be if you had an autistic relative or friend.
>>8651639
And this goes to you too, fuck off with the R word dude...

>>8652212
kys autistic retard

>>8628416
>>8632739
Raw ground pork prepared the German way (Mett) is glorious.

>>8652259
1) you're
2) >lonely neckbeard blah blah
projecting

a) no neckeard
b) no basement
c) not a virgin
d) not a loser

i am lonely and sad tho desu

>>8628407
I assume you don't live in America. In America our chickens wallow in their filth (literally) so this isn't a wise decision.

A nice farm chicken/cow/pig would probably be safe to eat raw if you had/wanted to.

Keep in mind there is "raw fish" and there is "sushi quality" raw fish. Consider American animals as "not sushi quality". I have a friend who lived in Japan for awhile and raw chicken was normal and acceptable there too. Not here unless it is fresh off some farm. Probably a certified organic farm at that.

>>8628532
>pork
>and many countries have laws against serving it raw

many countries have laws against serving it period

these countries also find fucking goats as a common recreational activity.

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>>8652834
>>8652834
>these countries also find fucking goats as a common recreational activity.
new zealan?

Why are there such tremendous amounts of misinformation and shitposting in this thread? Are you all too stupid or proud to admit when you're wrong?

>>8653480
Does LeBearface.jpeg poop in the woods?

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>whats the matter /ck/? Don't you want to get brain cysts from eating raw pork?

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>>8653576
>Or maybe you prefer your body being riddled with parasitic tape-worms? Does that sound better?

>>8653314
middle east

>>8629411
What is life? What are metabolic pathways? What is biology?
Each passing day it gets clearer and cleared /ck/ haven't finished school

>>8631474
Yes. This is the 21st century, medicine exists

>>8628401
Sashami is a meme food for hipsters and nips who are so blinded by rampant traditionalism and absurd nationalistic pride that they can genuinely convince themselves that it is worthwhile as a culinary pursuit.

>>8628407
Chicken Tartare is garbage that is only popular because of it's edge factor. Oh, you eat near-raw chicken like a retard instead of something that both tastes better and is less likely to make you shit yourself into a coma, congratulations.

Cuisine was a mistake

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>>8640283

>>8628401
Yea mother fucker While the CDC and FDA recommend cooking all foods to a certain temperature to ensure safety because foods like chicken, pork, and beef, have a higher chance of possessing dangerous or deadly bacteria fish is "less likely" to have hazardous bacteria

>>8629632
The correlation between stomach cancer and red meat is actually just because mother fuckers put 200 plus degree meat in there stomach and burn the shit out of it. Its not like meat fumes themselves cause cancer. If that were the case then inhaling itself would cause cancer.

If meat fumes caused cancer then why aren't cooks just getting lung cancer.

Eating raw meat is evolution in reverse and there is no correlation between hamburger and lung cancer bruh

>>8629948
>>8629978
>>8630074

thanks for teaching me about prions. fuck yea smart people

>>8629837
I think its just that selmonella the bacteria itself does well on chicken flesh and is significantly more dangerous than other bacteria.

>>8653582
like what even happens at that point? do the worms completely take control over your body or something? is your skin just a sack that holds worms?

>>8654836
They just eat your organs and the parasites inside your body. Just imagine fishing bait inside your stomach eating it and breeding. They get big too like the size of nightcrawlers sometimes

>>8654857
like i mean from the x-ray it seems like the worms have replaced the meat in the person's legs. like can you even move at that point when you're missing that much muscle?

True patricians eat raw hamburger.

>>8628407
I live in the UK and I've eaten "rare" chicken. It honestly isn't as bad as people make out (we have food safety ffs) I've never been sick by it. It just has a tough texture and even less flavour. (Think suchi with no flavour)

I've eaten raw everything else and again, its fine. I dropped some food onto the street and picked it back up and ate it. Shit cost me money yo.

Only time I've ever had diarrhoea is from shitty halal chicken that's not been prepared properly or past its sell by date before cooking.

Muslims really need to get with the times or fuck off.

>>8656009
if you want prion disease

>>8656061
I thought English people were naturally immune to salmonella cus they ate raw chicken in the middle ages instead of cooking it because they couldn't afford fire.

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GIVE IT TO US
RAW
AND
WRRRRRIGGLING

>>8628401
Why do people brag about eating raw meat? It's like bragging about eating flour and eggs instead of cake.

>>8628401
I like raw pork and raw beef
Raw chicken seems like a terrible idea tho

>>8628401
>smoked
>raw

>reading this thread yesterday
>see again so come back
>so many posts have been deleted its hard to even understand whats happened

why?

i know specifically one kid posted something about cats/dogs having the same diet as humans? seemed like a valid point i was literally curious what peoples response were.

>>8660387
>what is an archive
lurk more

>>8660397

>checked
>posts are still deleted

>>8652428
So do you really think that Japanese chicken all comes from idyllic little homestead farms? do you have any idea how many people live in Japan?

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>>8654836
>tfw you become one with the worms

>>8660442

OFC not. But the stuff that's served raw? That probably is.

I remember seeing a documentary about a Yakitori place in Japan which has a michelin star, and they serve various raw and "rare" chicken dishes. The owner raises his own chickens to ensure their quality.

>>8660450
>tfw kyuss summons you into his worm dimension

What about raw shrimp /ck/? I accidentally ate one last week and I thought it was good, a bit chewy.