*blocks your arteries*

*blocks you*

>>8587938
*triple bypasses behind you*

Yes, good goy! Avoid "unhealthy" fats that facilitate brain and muscle growth so you can stay weak and stupid.

>>8587938
*steals my thread*

>>8587938
Am I in the 90s?
>le fats are bad

>>8587938
Butter is good for you.

>felling for margarine

guys it's cheese

>>8588063
nah

>>8588030
>>8587973
>>8587957

t. dairy industry shills.

How cardiovascular health works in America:

>Eat an average American diet of 5000 calories a day.
>Diet consists mainly of of PUFAs, refined carbohydrates, and grains.
>Heart disease happens.
>Doctor puts you on statins (which do nothing to help and may actually worsen condition), tells you to eat a low fat high carb diet (which will fuck you up even worse, especially if it has a lot of grains and soy), and sends you on your way.
>You die of cancer or heart disease within five years. Whichever kills you first.

My father was a cardiologist for 30 years. He saw it hundreds of times from his colleagues' patients. They all would just shrug their shoulders and say "Well, can't repair the damage from a lifetime of bad eating!" Putting people on a diet of healthy fats, high protein, and tons of leafy green vegetables can cure most of the chronic illness in America today. Cancer, diabetes, and heart disease all react amazingly well to ketogentic-based diets.

Dietary fat does not cause heart disease. Nor does dietary cholesterol. The greatest correlation between diet and heart disease has been seen in grains. It's like every single time, people who get heart disease eat shittons of grains.

>>8587973
dude fat is fucking terrible for you. get a grip americans are fatter than ever.

Stop eating fat

>>8588446
>grains kill

Since every civilization, western and eastern was built on grains and high heart disease, diabetes and cancer rates rates are only a recent phenomenon, you're going to have to find your boogeyman somewhere else. I'm not saying it's fats or protein, but it certainly isn't grain itself. It's probably more a combination of the sedentary lifestyle and the way our foods are saturated in a vast array of toxic industrial chemicals.

>>8588470
sugar is worse than fat

>>8588446
>>8588484
yeah it's not the grains. it's the highly processed and refined grains, that become devoid of all their beneficiary vitamins/minerals and whatnot. also all the corn and soy products which are practically in everything nowadays

>>8588470
>fat makes you fat

Bitch please. Calories and sugar are the enemy here. Hatred for fat is just outdated food science.

>>8588446
Please don't use "grains" to refer to sugar and refined flour. It makes it sound like you think rice and oatmeal are causing heart disease, which is retarded.

>>8587938
tofu is good 4 u tho

>>8588498
hatred of fat is hatred of flavour.

>>8588507
Brother please may I partake of the grains

>>8589176
This a fucking 1000 times, I try to tell my family but no one listens, they act like im talking shit, condescending fucks.

>huuuur fat makes you fat anon, my doctor said so
>my doctor told me my cholesterol is high
>i need to buy the low fat stuff my doctor told me
>are you a doctor anon?

Fucking mom science

>>8590229
Brothaaa you want have some rice?

>>8588470
Fat makes you feel full

>>8587938
Well, I guess my arteries must be tight as ticks.

ITT: children who don't exercise. Do 30 minutes of exercise a day and you literally don't have to worry about this shit.

>>8591257
>Fat makes you feel full
it does the opposite, fool. Trust me, I've studied this extensively. I hardly eat any fat nowadays. 90% of my calories come from carbs.

>>8590269
You're not a doctor though and it looks like none of their objections had to do with flavor. Way to also reveal you live at home

>>8587938
fuck off monsanto shill. take your fucking maize and shove it up your ass.

>>8591273
ugh it must be so EASY to be born without the fat genes!

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>>8591291
We're all born with the fat genes. Some of us transcend out genes and become /fit/izens

>>8591273
not true at all. exercise does nothing. 1 cookie = 30 minutes of exercise.

>>8591303
I mean worrying about blocked arteries and diabetes is what plebs who don't exercise worry about. If you want to be less fat, eat less calories is pretty simple.

>>8591307
eating less fat is key to weight loss. This will get more apparent as you get older and your metabolism slows down.

>>8591334
Fat is 7 calories a gram and carbs are 3 calories a gram, so you're not wrong. Being fat isn't a health problem like clogged arteries are though. Daily cardio will prevent clogged arteries even if you're 30 pounds overweight.

>>8587946
Lel

>>8591340
>Being fat isn't a health problem like clogged arteries are though. Daily cardio will prevent clogged arteries even if you're 30 pounds overweight.

very wrong. if you are fat, you're eating too much. Easiest thing you can do is cut out the fat. For example, stop eating cheese.

>>8591340
>Fat is 7 calories a gram and carbs are 3 calories a gram

9 and 4.

>>8591343
Fine, justify your lack of exercise. Blood pumping through your veins doesn't prevent clogged arteries.

>>8591353
I do exercise. But not to lose weight.

>>8587946
kek

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>>8591358
YOU DO IT TO PREVENT HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE FROM CLOGGED ARTERIES FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEE

>>8591368
Exercise causes inflammation so it probably causes clogged arteries, actually.
people drop dead jogging all the time.
Drinking coffee, and eating a low fat diet, is key to preventing clogged arteries.

>>8591409
Cardio momentarily increases blood pressure. People who drop dead are long distance olympian joggers, they also shit their pants because they can't control their bowels. That much is unhealthy, like most things that aren't taken in moderation. It doesn't cause "inflammation" long term. Drinking coffee will give you cancer, btw. Have fun with that instead of a simple heart attack.

>>8591420
>People who drop dead are long distance olympian joggers
No people who drop dead jogging are unhealthy people trying to lose weight by exercising, or long term exercisers who have terrible diets because they think their exercise protects from from heart disease (it doesn't)

moderate coffee consumption reduces inflammation so this helps protect against heart disease AND cancer.

>>8587946
Nothing cholesterol kid

>>8587973
it does increase your chance of heart disease.

low fat diets nothing for weight loss which it was marketed as though.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26586275

>>8591462
>low fat diets nothing for weight loss which it was marketed as though.
They must not be low fat enough. I try and eat as little fat as possible. It makes a huge difference. fat melts off me gradually... since most fat is burned by the organs in a steady manner.

>>8591420
>being this butthurt on 4chan
sad

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*blocks your androgen receptors*

*is good for you*

I had serious angina for a while back in October. Laid off dairy and meats and surprised how much of a difference it makes. Never going back

>>8593247
Stop bumping old threads you penis wrinkle

>>8593259
what's wrong, did your go za thread get bumped off the front page?

>>8587946
>>8591440
underrated

How can so much conflicting science that is supposed to be objective by now be so ever present in this thread?

>>8593274
No, my McChicken thread had 404'd

>>8588484
>Since every civilization, western and eastern was built on grains and high heart disease, diabetes and cancer rates rates are only a recent phenomenon, you're going to have to find your boogeyman somewhere else.
Sitting on our fat asses all day erryday might have something to do with it.
I mean realistically the average american would get about as much exercise as normal if you locked them up in a cage just big enough to house them.

>>8593420
>I mean realistically the average american would get about as much exercise as normal if you locked them up in a cage just big enough to house them.
So yeah you get a bunch of people who are functionally just as active as if they were locked in a tiny cage 24/7 and feed them 3500+kcal a day and big fucking surprise their cardiovascular system is just fucked

>>8592187
>implying that's a bad thing

>>8591437
inflammation is every disease

>>8588498
You know fat is calories right?

>>8593259
Bump

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*teleports behind you*
*gives you diabetes*

>>8591473
> I try and eat as little fat as possible.
Enjoy your testosterone goals of 2017

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what did he mean by this?

>>8593627
He took what he considered a funny image of a thread with a joke that OP in turn supposedly stole from another anon. All to make another slide thread on /pol/.

Actually, fat is good for health because it lubricates arteries and makes blood flow better

>>8588470
Fat isn't addictive, unlike sugar.

Also muh polyunsaturated fats.

>>8591273
I probably exercise more than you do and I still worry about this shit. It's also worth mentioning that sitting on your ass for 6+ hours a day is going to counteract that 30 minutes of exercise you're proposing.

>>8593776
>Fat isn't addictive,
fat is extremely additive.

>>8593845
Everything pleasurable can be addictive.

Overeating is addictive as shit, and it's a natural thing too because our brains are set up to think Food is limited in abundance and we better eat up whatever is in front of us. If I need to I could easily consume 4000 Calories of food, and that's not cheating like just eating straight butter & ice cream I mean eating bread, meat, and cheese. And if I eat like that every day i'll be a fatass again.

As a person who dropped 60 pounds I do feel a Ketogenic diet was the way for me at least to go. Because eggs, butter, and low carb veggies fill me up and satisfy me for a longer period of time. Keep in mind I kept within -300 Calories (at least) minimally of my intended diet.

I think you're bound to lose weight as long as you don't overeat, my opinion is I could have probably lost the weight by eating good carbs as well. But the beauty of Keto was that I really didn't feel like I was starving despite only eating 1400 Calories on a slow day, because I had eating Cheese and Roast Beef.

The best diet is the one you can stick to. If you can stay healthy while still having a serving of candy then that's fine.

>>8593845
4u

Does anyone have the webm of the girl deepthroating the butter?

>>8591279
>2017
>thinking its shameful to live at home at 19

>>8593892
The best diet is no diet friendo. Diets just promotes insecurity and increases anxiety, any psychologist will tell you. Eat what you want, and just count calories.

>>8591303
so don't eat the cookie you fat fucking piece of shit i hope you die you human waste of space fucking END YOUR LIFE STUPID FAT FUCKING COW

>>8593627
He appreciates this thread.

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>>8587938