Is it possible to be carnivorous and healthy, solely by supplementing and eating only meat?
Only if you're going to eat the stomachs and intestines of your freshly killed prey to get the plant nutrition from them.
>>8518685
Yes but youre gonba have to eat plenty of offal and blood too and not just the best bits.
>>8518685
Organs
>>8518685
Enjoy never shitting again.
A lot of Mexican "cuisine" implements organ meat, like Buche and tripe. Also liver and onions I guess, if you're not against adding vegetables to your meat.
For the record, are you talking straight meat only, or can you sauce it/ garnish it?
>>8519541
>this guy needs fiber to poo
WEAK
>>8519554
Actually dairy is much more efficient at making me shit than fibre.
>>8519554
How do I become strong?
>>8518685
>Is it possible to be carnivorous and healthy, solely by supplementing and eating only meat?
Bears eat blueberries, tubers, grasses, insects....not just fish and meat. In fact that carnivores diet in estimated to be less than 20% meat.
>>8518690
And drink their blood too. Blood is an important source of vitamin C.
>>8518685
If you are a cat or an eagle, sure.
>>8519582
bears are omnivores
>>8519582
Bears aren't carnivores. They're omnivores. Like humans, boars, and dogs and the like.
Obligate carnivores exist. Felines. Sharks. Birds of prey. They eat the contents of their preys bowels though. Some chew on grass.
Humans are adapted to eating fruits and veg, seeing as our brains run on carbohydrates. Eat the bowels of your enemies OP.
>>8518685
Sure, you'll just be an unhealthy fuck who smells terrible and suffers from all kinds of health problems. Kinda like the average person on /ck/
>>8519547
sauce/garnish is fine.
Can I eat only meats and breads and get all my other nutrition from fruit and vegetable juices?
>>8518685
Do you not like vegetables?
>>8519851
humans are actually herbivores. like rabbits,chimps and so on. most of these animals have evolved to be able to metabolise proteins from meats in order to give them a better chance in times of starvation. the downside is herbivores develop atherosclerosis and other diseases as a result. and should thus be minimised. omnivores like bears and carnivores cats/dogs (however dogs are extremely adaptable on what they can survive on, they are carnivores) do not develop these diseases.
Some Eskimos live off of nothing but animals. They also don't cook there shit and they eat blubber. If they cooked their shit they would all get sick and die if they didn't change their diet.
>>8519899
Human's are omnivores anon. If you don't eat meat you have to do a good bit of supplements in order to stay healthy.
>>8519851
>Like humans
>2017
>thinks humans are born carnivores
back 2 school 4 u
>>8518685
Totally ignoring the rest of this thread, yes, it is easy to be carnivorous and healthy if you are willing to take supplements for a couple of micronutrients, or to include things like tea, coffee, eggs, milk, butter and herbs/seasonings.
The important things to consider are that you will need to eat organ meats. At the least, you will want to eat marrow, liver and sweetbreads.
Consider making sauces from red berries, too. These will help plug a couple of potential gaps
>>8519900
Never have I seen a post so full of shit.
>>8519574
T.non white
>>8519920
wrong.
what supplements do you need to replace what you dont get from meat?
B12? food animals are supplemented it with it.
come at me.
>>8519963
its kinda true
but they die so much younger than every other population because their diet is horrible for their arteries and general health
>>8519963
From wikipedia. Both sentences carry 2 footnotes pointing to reference texts.
Because Inuit frequently eat their meat raw and fresh, or freshly frozen, they can obtain more carbohydrates from their meat, as dietary glycogen, than Westerners can.
Traditional Inuit diets derive approximately 50% of their calories from fat, 30–35% from protein and 15–20% of their calories from carbohydrates, largely in the form of glycogen from the raw meat they consumed.
>>8520034
You speaketh the engrish goodly
chronic constipation that ends with anemia from shitting blood every day awaits you
>>8519851
>Our brains run on carbohydrates
They can run on ketones just fine, anon.
>>8519899
Fuck off vegan shill
The only reason we exist today is because we consumed animal proteins
>>8520039
They used to live long but now days they drive snowmobiles around and sit inside all day and eat processed food. It's a lot different than walking around and hunting in -60 and living in a Igloo.
>>8518685
Theoretically it is possible if you also consume fats. If you eat too much lean protein for your body weight, and to consume no dietary fat, you may overload your body's ability to filter out amino acids through urine. Your organs would start shutting down. This is protein poisoning, aka rabbit starvation. A diet of 50/50 protein to fats by calories can be sustained in perfect health for at least a few years. You'll still get vitamins from the meat, and the liver will produce enough glycogen for the organs which require it. Fats will supply energy for the rest. Lifelong carnivorism? I don't know. Good question. It may never have been actually done since most people eat a piece of fruit or a vegetable once in a while. But that's ok. The complex carbs in vegetables are generally thought to be good for your colon and gut flora.
>>8518685
>Supplementing
>All meat diet
With what? But yeah, you can live completely on animal products and be healthy. See Inuits and various native tribes.
>>8519899
>Humans are herbivores
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Let's do a basic check list
>Can the animal consume animal products?
>Yes
>Can the animal consume plant products?
>Yes
That is literally the definition of what an omnivore is.
Omni-All
Vore-Consume
>>8518685
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGVdYiM5IXw
I want to try this t b h
>>8521389
Cows can and do eat animals but that doesn't make them omnivores.
>>8518685
Possibly.
Read about the Inuits who lived entirely on different seafood (fish, whales, shark, seal etc.).
Or the Maasai tribe from Kenya who lived entirely on milk, blood and meat.
Both these groups have/had SIGNIFICANTLY lower heat problems, diabetes was non-existent etc.
The trick is to consume the entire part of meat and fish - the brains, eyes, organs and so on. These have a lot of nutrients and minerals.
>>8521660
Inuits only develop that by eating processed food. They're pretty healthy when they eat their traditional diet since they've adapted to eat just that.
>>8521673
Inuits are not a separate evolution of the homo sapiens.
>>8521677
Any distinct ethnic group has adapted to better live in their environment.
>>8521673
That's simply not true.
>>8521643
Actually, that DOES make them omnivores t. websters/oxford.
Many animals are opportunistic omnivores and their diets are determined more by what is available. Cows are shitty hunters.
>>8521660
>Have a rate of heart disease equivalent to a first world nation with a varied diet
What is your definition of healthy? Where are your goal posts?
>>8518685
>tfw have been on a strict carnivore diet for 22 years
protein, carbs and glucose is all i need
not one fucking vegetable or fruit in 8030 days
and i assure you im healthy as fuck
>>8521729
How do you shit?
>>8521732
i shit every day and it comes out without low to no effort
drink a glass of milk every day and buy some fiber powder if your stomach is really that weak
I deleted a vegan friend on Facebook because she kept posting stupid images like pic related
>>8521716
The Standard American Diet is not healthy. Objectively. When a diet that has mutated the genes of people to process better puts them on the se pedestal as an unhealthy diet makes it unhealthy. I have not once moved any goalposts
When you say they are healthy or have significantly lower rates of heart disease. That is false.
I'll be waiting for your inevitable backtracking. Fuckhead
>>8521745
kill her
>>8521716
>actually that does
Actually it doesnt.
>>8521745
This image is at least a strong rebuttal against the retarded, "hurrr if we aren't supposed to eat meat why do we have canine teeth?" teleological bullshit.
>>8521716
>Many animals are opportunistic omnivores and their diets are determined more by what is available. Cows are shitty hunters.
full tard
>>8521772
>When you say they are healthy or have significantly lower rates of heart disease. That is false.
Where did I say this?
>I have not once moved any goal posts
>Where are your goal posts?
Where are your goal posts? What is your point? What is your definition of healthy?
People have and do still live on carnivorous diets. Generations have lived and died on animal product focused diets for untold millennia. It is a viable way of life.
>>8521777
>This is definition A
>B meets definition A
>Therefore, B is an A
I'm sorry that definitions are hard.
>>8521789
no pics, no kikebook
body fat % is 19 in case you're wondering if im a lardass
>>8521782
Nope. Chimpanzees eat meat (insects, deer, and smaller monkeys). They even cannibalise each other sometimes.
>>8521803
>where did i say this
So youre either lying or admitting youre a stupid fuck just butting into a conversation with zero contextual understanding aka not reading a single thing previously posted in the thread chain.
>where are your goal posts
What are you talking about you autist? Where have I changed anything I said?
>what is your point
That the claims of the Inuits and Masai being healthy is false. Do you have this much trouble reading when youre not sperging out?
>durrr hurr what is healthy mean but these people are healthy!!!
Nice goalposts you fucking faggot
>>8521803
A dictionary definition is not a scientifically verifiable definition.
>>8518685
>Is it possible to be carnivorous and healthy, solely by supplementing and eating only meat?
Only if you eat the nasty bits like said here>>8518690
In nature we would eat literally everything and use what we can't eat as tools, the stomachs and intestines have been used for stuffing with ground meat to make sausages and hagins, the glandular urgans such as kidneys, liver, heart, brain and other such things have been considered a delicacy.
But why would you want to eat only meat anyway? Our digestive system is capable of digesting a wide array of foods, you can eat anything from an apple to meat, why limit yourself to one food source?
>>8521821
>So youre either lying or admitting youre a stupid fuck just butting into a conversation with zero contextual understanding aka not reading a single thing previously posted in the thread chain.
No, I respond to you, because you give me (you)'s.
>What are you talking about you autist? Where have I changed anything I said?
Okay, I'm going to make this as blunt as possible.
What would be the point at which you would say
>Okay, that is healthy. That makes sense because I actually think about things instead of just knee jerk shitposting
I can't prove that the diet is healthy or unhealthy because you haven't given a definition or a category of what healthy is.
If you asked me
>Is it possible to be carnivorous and healthy, solely by supplementing and eating only meat?
The answer is yes because there are people and societies that thrive on eating carnivorous diets.
>>8519851
>Obligate carnivores exist. Felines.
I am not sure about that, actually.
Have you never seen cats munching on plants in your backyard? I see them going specifically for the little grains growing on some wild grasses.
Like, im sure they are used to eat mostly meat, but I am not sure they can't eat vegetables.
Sharks and birds of prey on the other hand really eat nothing but meat.
>>8521824
Then offer a definition.
I am going to give you a dictionary definition because it is the laziest way to get people to work with the same logic.
>>8519899
>humans are actually herbivores. like rabbits,chimps
Neither humans nor chimps are herbivores, you dingus:
https://youtu.be/Zbs0Zg-0jrw
>>8521831
>i cant prove a diet is healthy or unhealthy because you didnt give a definition
Utterly pathetic strawgrasping lol. By all means use your fairyland definition of healthy as much as it suits you. It will not hold up to any actual scrutiny
>>8521843
Animals anatomicallly adapted for plant based diets
Behavior does not indicate nature
>>8521846
Wow drumpf btfo!!!
Sorry
Youtube videos arent reality, sweetie.
>>8521852
>Is it possible to be carnivorous and healthy, solely by supplementing and eating only meat?
Is it possible?
>>8521866
>Youtube videos arent reality, sweetie.
>Sees chimps literally hunting and eating a monkey
>nope, it is not reality!
Seriously?
https://youtu.be/eDJC_gPNge0
Do you honestly need more proof to understand that chimps eat monkeys?
>>8521872
No. And no matter how many 3rd grade argument techniques youre going to use you can find objectivity within subjectivity you mentally ill fuck.
>>8521865
Yeah, I would say cows aren't viable predators. So, not carnivores. I'm not quite sure where the line gets drawn, though.
Like, I don't think a tiger could be fed on a completely plant based diet and live for a long period of time, but a cow might be able to live on a meat based diet.
>>8521885
Are you actually arguing anything with anybody or just trying to put your high school philosophy class contradictory logic learning to use?
>>8521882
But autist-san, you can find people that have lived their entire lives on meat based diets and they are as comparably healthy as people eating varied diets.
>Is it possible to be carnivorous and healthy, solely by supplementing and eating only meat?
So, is it possible?
If you can find ONE exception then it is possible.
>>8521892
>comparably as healthy
As healthy as an objectively unhealthy diet
>so is it possible
Im going to let you figure out my answer to this out on your own. Its going to be far more beneficial to your stunted mental development than what I had just spoonfed you.
>>8521900
So, you see autist-san, this entire thread is about this question
>>8518685
>Is it possible to be carnivorous and healthy, solely by supplementing and eating only meat?
And the answer is yes, you can eat a carnivorous diet and be <ARGUABLY> healthy.
And then the thread would have died. Also, maybe a few links to GREASE AND GUTS and studies on it.
But instead, it became an argument about veganism or vegetarianism being optimal or whatever your retarded bullshit is about and now we have another one of these threads shitting up the place that is 90% bullshitty politics and poor definitions.
So, you have no worthwhile argument because you have no point at which it could be satiated. Your arguments are fucking stupid, and I hope that you actually consider
>What do I actually think this conversation is about?
>When does it end?
>How do I win or lose or am I just filling the internet with more useless text?
>>8521910
>the answer is yes
That answer is obviously incorrect and based off your schizophrenic delusions. You seemed to have moved the goalposts from firm yes to "ARGUABLY". That is INARGUABLY false
>durrr hurrr veganism
Hmmm no, didnt mention or imply that once. But your schizophrenic delusions are again noted
I had funcrushing the ego of a retarded teenager though. I'll be sure to see you on /ck/ again and again until you inevitably crumble under your noted schizophrenic delusions.
Here's (You)r last (You). Aspie
>>8521660
Modern Inuits have around a 75% smoking rate. Smoking increases rates of heart disease by 200%.
zerocarbzen.com will interest you.
>>8521745
>herbivore
>picture of a horse
>mouth opening: small
This is a new level of retardation.
>>8521745
I deleted a carnist friend on Facebook because he kept posting stupid images like pic related
>>8519942
Learn to read, redneck
>>8521680
Ethnic groups adapt behaviorally/ culturally. They are not evolutions of the homo sapiens.
>>8521805
The answer is yes.
>>8521805
>body fat % is 19
literally a bag of lard dying from his childish belief.
>>8518685
The Inuit are pretty much carnivorous due to the fact not much grows where they live, so yes.
>>8523074
yep and they're all 5'4, moon-faced, chunky retards.
dunno if they got that way before or after the trip from mongolia but do you want to take your chances?
>>8523179
That's because the environment favored those characteristics, not because of the diet.
>>8518685
i guess you'd fuck up your kidneys from too much protein
>>8523179
They also had endurance capabilities that would have left you in a snowdrift pissing and shitting your designer snowsuit and blubbering for your mammy.
>>8518685
Why would you want to? That's just as dumb as living solely off of plants.
I say unto thee as I say unto them: eat both.
>>8519942
>Bears aren't carnivores. They're omnivores. Like humans
Moron.
>>8522303
Different melanin levels in the skin/eyes, Epicanthic fold an adaptation to protect the eyes from the cold, innate resistance to certain diseases, alcohol flush reaction, these traits and more are all caused by evolutionary pressure
>>8524298
You are retarded. Japs have the same epicanthic folds yet they live in warm climates.
>>8521842
Do not give your cat plant matter anon. They cannot digest it and it provides them no nutrition. They sometimes eat plants to clean their teeth or to get high, but that's all.
>>8524318
Japan is not so warm.. it was half covered in glaciers at the height of the last ice age and now has a cool temperate climate
And Japanese did not just spawn from their soil, their ancestors traveled far to get there across siberia in prehistory like their chinese and mongol cousins
>>8521842
Cats have a very specialized digestive system and metabolism that's design to draw and use energy and nutrients from meat and only meat. If a cat is eating plant matter they're either trying to induce vomiting or found something that gives them narcotic effects (a LOT of grasses do this to them)
>>8521745
>Chimpanzee
>Frugivorous
>>8524378
I thought they derived from the sun god. Thanks for dispelling that illusion.
Although to be fair, the japs have resisted christianity much better than any other asian nations. Compare the percentage of japanese christians to, for example, korean or taiwanese. Japs have at least had only 5% of their populace sucked into that quagmire of hypocrisy.
>>8519554
*laughing Cavemen*