Best

I'd have to go by region, but the one thing I do know is that California wins overall for beer.

>>8514458
On what basis? California wine is expensive and is mostly single varietal stuff. Chilean wine I'm not super familiar with but again mostly single varietal stuff, never really sounds super interesting to me. Why are we putting them ahead of France and Italy?

>>8514458
>Local or homemade>Californian > Chilean > French > Italian

Wine from the Washington Columbia Valley is pretty good.

If I was going to be a farmer that is where I would do it. Plenty of water and sunshine. I had 7 foot plus tomato plants without with no problem. Just got to make sure your plants get water or they will be gone in a few days it is so dry there.

>>8514458
Is that why Australians win all the awards?

Willamette Valley > California

>wine snobs

gtfo. yellowtail beats all your expensive, overpriced bitter shit

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>>8514809
>yellowtail

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I find baby duck red wine is a great bang for my buck

>>8514573
Yeah, Californian wine isn't really in my radar for the most part due to cost and availability but remembered hearing about Pinot Noir that's actually largely Syrah after posting that. Anyways making a blend and labeling it as a single varietal is definitely pretty gay

>>8514809
Yellowtail shill pls go and stay go

>>8514961
>hearing about Pinot Noir that's actually largely Syrah after posting that. Anyways making a blend and labeling it as a single varietal
is this legal!!??!!

>>8514458
>retard doesn't just buy grape juice and some rubbing alcohol

winefags still pay 10$+

get on that real cheap ship
$2.50 a bottle

>>8515130
I know you're meming but there people who think rubbing alcohol is the same as beer/wine/etc alchohol.

>>8514458
Argentinian > Italian > French > Californian > Chilean.

Not that Chilean wine is bad... on the contrary. But I feel like it's a bit too acid for my tastes.

>>8514458
Whats the best tasting box wine that is still a good value?

>>8516270
Hopefully they don't confuse the two when drinking
that could be dangerous!

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>>8514458

Yes need info for research.

Australian wine is literally and unironically the best.

For just a late night beverage,

Spanish Rioja > All.

Don't @ me.

>>8514479
Well yeah. It's not like Chile, France or Italy are known as beer countries.

>>8516369
>Australian
Good banter

>>8516274
>Argentinian
hahahahahaha
Chilean is Best, fucking based wine, then France, then Italian, then Californian

Wine is gay and pretentious as fuck. I only ever use it for deglazing shit or making sangria. I'm basically forced to drink the shit every now and then when the gf and I visit a fancy restaurant but the whole time I'd much rather be drinking water

>>8514795

This guy knows what the fuck he's talking about

Oregon Pinot Noir > Everything

>>8517685
Oregon actually makes really good pinot noir and merlot.

>>8517681
It's quite subjective, but I like Argie wine. It's the perfect middle ground between too sweet and too sour for me.

>>8516372
Love Rioja! Such great tasting wines, the one I have currently is just a rich explosion of blackberry, quite amazing.

Really want to try PNW wines generally. Any reccs are welcomed.

For me, France is still top-tier... can't beat classic Bordeaux reds, Burgundian Chardonnay, and value Rhônes (which are my favourite). Other than that Argentinian wines are my favourite value wines. New Zealand is super great is you're looking for tropical fruit whites, same with South Africa if you want cheaper and underrated.

I opened this thread planning to do a this > this > this, but ended up rambling. To me, regions have their differences in flavours that I can't really rank, depends on what you're looking for.

>>8514458
Chilean? are you fucking retarded? You opinion is obviously not very popular given current pricing and consumption trends but it certainly is interesting. Chilean wine can be good but making a blanket statement like it is better than Italian and french wine seems rather shortsighted.

>Born and raised in Sonoma, Napa and Mendocino counties
>Everyone around me grows up to become a wine snob
>It's alright, I enjoy cooking with it more than drinking it. I prefer bourbon.
>I'm treated as a fucking pariah because I'm not a wino.

Best wine I ever had was from Moldova. Cheat as shit, because Moldova, but very tasty. I miss Chisinau.

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>>8517682
I cant find a wine that taste good to me..? am i broke? Im like fuck this back to beer.

Seriously, sombody recomend a style of wine that a noob would enjoy.. and dont say mascotto . yuk

>>8517789
Merlot

>>8517794
why is this..?