Why do you eat so much meat?

plants are gay

>>8497521
>Have you ever thought about cutting down?

Nope

Honestly, after eating a vegetarian meal, I just don't feel as satisfied as I do if I had meat.

I go through five pounds of brisket or pork shoulder every four days. Cutting down? No.

>>8497563
I noticed this after some meals.
Foods with a lot of fiber make me feel full just fine though.

>>8497521
Because all the vegetables are wilted or I have to go 1 hour out to the farmers market where I can choose from 10 different stalls of potatoes because it's too fucking cold for good produce. I god damn hate living this fucking town. Can't wait to graduate and move back to a civilized city.

How far from the civilization do you live?

yeah me too. im only in the beginnin. tried to make vege bolognese. failed and it was bad. i like that you can eat like half a kg of salad and its like zero carbs. need to get some good recipes first

Although I have no moral or real health objections to it, I could easily stop eating meat. Carbs on the other hand I would fight you for.

>>8497630
There is a vegan/vegetarian version of pretty much every mean you can think of.
The problem with looking for vegan recipes online is that a lot of people who write them don't understand how to cook so what you end up is a pile of mushed vegetables but if you have basic understanding of how to cook it's not that difficult.

>>8497521
nigger the majority of the shit I cook is mostly vegetables
>make gumbo
it's all vegetable with some meat
>make jambalaya
see above

if you don't like meat in your food you're doing it wrong

>>8497666
yeah im thinkin of looking into asian/indian cuisine cos they must have great vege shit. should ask my mom for grannys vegecurry recipe. im only lessenin my meat eating abit. i love meat. only reason for lessenin is cos its healthier. i dont care about animal right faggotry

>>8497521
I find myself eating less and less meat recently, as well. It now seems strange how much meat I ate growing up. For some reason it was normal for meat to be the main ingredient, with other things like vegetables and spices basically being an afterthought.

>>8497521
Because its healthy.

>>8497521
I would get fat eating plant sources of protein, so I eat meat instead.

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>tfw veganaryanmasterrace toobeeonnest

>>8497521
you have to eat a mountain of veggies to get the calories of a burger. I still like veggies and fruit. I don't eat nuts because they taste kinda bad unless you put a heap of salt on em.

Lack of protein.
Unlike you fat fucks, I'm actually /fit/, and lift. If I only ate meat on special occasions, I would make no gains.

>>8497521
what do you do to get filling meals though? What replaces meat? I would love to step away from meat but often most of what makes a dish not literally just some form of bread with flavored fat is the meat you add that makes it fill you properly.

>>8497521
who else /hobovegan/ here?
down to 500-800 calories per day, orthorexic & feeling more spiritually pure than ever.

Beans and lentils are delicious but if that's all you have then it'd be pretty dull.

>>8498017
This
Can't reach and maintain 1/2/3/4 plates lifts natty without eating meat.

>>8498460

preach. /fit/izens also fall for the 1g protein/lbm meme and then wonder why they can't cardio. Get your carbs up.

>>8497521
same boat, except i was one of the above mentioned /fit/fags and thought that it was the only way to get in shape. Now I basically only eat meat on special occassions and it's definitely improved my wellness/cooking ability/enjoyment of meat when i do partake.

>>8498017
>who is Clarence
Granted the guy is on gear, but he still gets all his protein from plant based sources. Even my friend is vegetarian and has a 1372 total. Being /fit/ without eating meat really isn't too difficult anymore

I pretty much only eat meat when I visit my parents, or when I have a BBQ with friends. Not because I don't like it (I love it), but because I'm poor as shit. I've almost completely replaced meat with beans and lentils. Sometimes I'll treat myself to a couple of cheap burgers but that's about it

>>8497521

I don't eat meat but I do eat fish. Pescatarian master race

>>8498520
>Granted the guy is on gear, but...
you could eat nothing but potatoes and coke and still make gains on gear

>Being /fit/ without eating meat really isn't too difficult anymore
it's still stupidly inefficient. Your goto protein sources are tempeh and tofu, both of which are estrogenic in the amounts you'd need to eat to get /fit/, not to mention not nearly as bioavailable as whey or meat

past that, you have legumes. Beans are a horrendous source of protein despite what vegans swear (1/2 cup has barely 20g as opposed to 85g of carbs), and you need to eat them with rice to get a full bevy of amino acids

I'd say it's easiER to get /fit/ while vegetarian - milk, eggs, whey, cheese, etc. are all pretty good protein sources, but the most efficient diet for trying to build muscle remains one quite high in protein, which is extremely difficult on a vegan/vegetarian diet

>>8498833
1/2 cup of beans has 43g carbs* not 85

>>8498856
> Protein is not for energy.
you're right, it's for building muscle

which is what /fit/fags try to do

> Just shoot for 70-80g
http://www.jmaxfitness.com/blog/protein-intake/

unless you weigh literally 100lbs that's not nearly enough

>>8498858
It should be around .7 grams of protein per lbs. of bodyweight. Anything more and you're just wasting money

>>8498833
Yes but the guy is an Olympic level lifter while being vegan. There are only a handful of people who can accomplish that even on gear.

>red peppers on the far left and not next to orange

OCD triggered would not shop

>>8497521
>After being on my own for a few years I started to change my eating habits and cutting down on meat.

I did too but only because of living expenses.

Meat and fish is quite expensive for weight and I find if I include it in my weekly shopping would take a significant amount of budget.

>>8497521
I started reducing my meat intake last september. Started out with eating meat only on weekends then I preferred to be more flexible and now eat meat twice a week. Just like you I lost weight, saved money, got to afford duck/rabbit/lamb on the days I eat meat and learned a lot about vegetarian/vegan cuisine.

I find myself depending on eggs/beans/chickpeas too often though. Spinach, broccoli, green beans are my go to greens. I eat bell peppers, aubergine, zucchini since they're the most common veggies in store here but they get bland out of season. I've branched out to squash, sweet potatoes and kale.
Any more tips for diversifying my menu? Ideally stuff that fills me up as much as beans do.

>>8499054
Mushrooms

I went through the same process OP

However, it all started when I met my gf who was a vegetarian at the time. In the past years we've moved in each others direction foodwise: I eat less meat and try more veggies, she had started eating meat again in moderation.

>>8499064
True I should use them more often, but unfortunately i'm a poor student yet i've developed a taste for expensive mushrooms. Bland massproduced shrooms don't taste that good to me ever since i've made a wild mushroom duxelle.

My bf's ED was fixed by a vegan diet

>>8497521
>>8497521
I agree with everything you said and think everyone should be eating more plan-based foods.

2/3s of all americans are obese
1/3 of american kids are obese
98% (!!) of the population is deficient in essential minerals and vitamins you get from fruits and vegetables

>>8499054

Learn how to make seitan. I bake mine in cutlets instead of simmering it http://www.isachandra.com/2009/11/homemade-seitan/

>>8497521
Have you actually tracked the amount of meat you eat? It's probably not much

>>8497521
I just eat more fish/chicken and less red meat. Red meat isn't healthy to eat daily.

>>8499098
Chicken is pretty bad for your colon.

>>8499091
Meh i'm not a fan of meat substitutes. I only even eat tofu when i'm making mapo tofu. Quorn and the rest are just uninteresting, if I want meat i'll get meat.

>>8499106
http://www.webmd.com/colorectal-cancer/news/20051227/chicken-may-cut-colon-cancer-risk

>>8499110

I like it more than your average meat substitute. It's a rather nice addition to a salad (the saltiness plays off well with a tart vinegarette). It's also good to bulk up sandwiches a bit (where most of the flavor is coming from a spread or veggies).

>>8499110
What makes it a meat substitute?

>>8499129
Ok i'll try it out, never tasted before desu.

>>8499214
not that guy, but anything i'd put in a recipe that would otherwise call for meat i consider a meat substitute

>>8499227
Beans in chilli? Lentils in bolognese? Mushroom Burger?

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>>8499093
Let's just say that I used to buy my meat at costco and it didn't take me long to have to go back and buy more.

>>8499110
For me that depends on what you mean by "meat substitute". Most substitutes that try to imitate the taste of meat are pretty bad and I stay away from them. There are a lot of good meat substitutes that only imitate meat in function and try to get the best flavor out the ingredients they are made out of. I had some really good veggie burgers in the past that I would easily choose over some shittier meat burgers I've ate.

Pic related, my homemade beetroot and quinoa burger

>>8498959
>>8498871
Not that anon but the correct value is .6-1g/lb of lean mass. It's a pretty wide margin and only lean mass matters.

Definitely possible to hit without meat but it is more difficult.

Meat tastes good and is a good source of protein

>>8499077
Go mushroom hunting dude. I go for morels every year. It's awesome.

>>8499649
Heheh. Good post

I eat meat only exclusively when I'm invited over for something, if it's christmas and such.

It's really cheap, I got used to it after just some weeks, meat doesn't ever pass my mind and I lift weighs among some things so I need protein, but it's no issue since it's just as easy as to make some omelette with losts of stuff in it.

potatoes, rice, beans, tomatoes, onions, spinnach and broccoli is what I eat. I go cheap.

>>8497955
Greetings comrade

>>8497955
I have the bf doing that. His penis works now.

>>8499991
Faggot

>>8497521
Meat is food. Everything else is trimmings for the food.

i don't eat very much meat

i like to buy high quality meat (and food in general) so i balance out the cost by eating cheaper plants foods more often

>>8497521
>Why do you eat so much meat?
Because it tastes so good and life is too short to give up on good taste.

I only work during the summer and the rest of the year I am a depressed miser. I'll buy a fryer chicken now and then and make it last about two weeks.

I don't have any problem eating meat and I think the big reason vegans claim to feel better is because they totally overhaul their diet, not just because they stop eating meat once in a while.

>>8497521
I used to be pretty underweight when I was vegetarian, even when I downed as many plant protein smoothies I could but I was still 6'0 and 130lbs.

When I started working out, it became impossible to keep up unless I ate more and vegetables and smoothies weren't cutting it. So I gave meat a try after being vegetarian for 20 years and never even eating a cheeseburger before, went all out and started eating meat with almost everything. I'm now up to 160lbs and look and feel so much better. I used to buy into the vegan/vegetarian garbage and now I know better.

>>8500107
Retardiot

>>8500460
pls no ableism pls k thx :-)

>>8500107
It's kinda funny that you say that because I had the exact opposite problem, I could not manage to lose weight and keep it off until I practically stopped eating meat.

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>>8497521
because
im not
a goddamn
SHEEEP
you motherfucker

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You know what you guys don't seem to get? You don't need to pop in some vegetarian dishes into your daily meat diet.
You just have to make a few dishes that simply contain no meat. Think of asian food like vegetable curries or even Indonesian food.

Saying that it doesn't give you the same 'fill' is just between your ears.

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>>8499214
>Most substitutes that try to imitate the taste of meat are pretty bad and I stay away from them.
This is what I meant. I make black bean burgers often and they are awesome.

>>8497767
divide protein/calories of an steak and of some beans or even a broccoli

tl;dr: you wouldn't

>>8497521
>How much meat do you eat?
I'm too lazy to pull up numbers, but I'd say less than average.
I eat the occosional fast food sandwhich (for me, its the Döner, the best fast food sandwhich) when I have to grab some quick lunch at work and dont have anything with me, and when I eat out "proper", I also often go for something with meat, but my normal, during the week, daily cooking is mostly meat free, or meat poor.
>Have you ever thought about cutting down?
I was raised in a way where we always had some kind of meat, but always good stuff, and never as the main ingredient (i.e. you always get most of your calories from your sides, or bread with some ham or cold cuts on top) and since living on my own I cut it down a bit further.
Meat is fantastic, and I could never become a vegetarian (or vegan even), but the current situation where meat is shitty, overly available and cheap as dirt is just bad.
It's not as nature intended it too (you gotta work for you meat), it's disrespectful against the animal and the old trade of butchering and its really bad for the environment.
So I just try to get good, local and "green" stuff, but not too often.

>>8498032
>what do you do to get filling meals though? What replaces meat?
Carbs.
Pasta to be specific.
Or good, european bread.
Or stuff like lentils and beans are also really filling, plus you get them protons too.

>>8501672
>black bean burgers
That sounds interesting.
More info please!

>>8500669
the irony

>>8501649
>asian food

Like cumin beef, duck buns, braised eel in bamboo, phoenix claw, curried whole fishes, pork blood soup...

>>8501762
http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2014/03/the-best-black-bean-burger-recipe.html
Feel free to adjust the recipe, no need to go overboard with what you put in the patty. I personally don't add mayo and chipotle chillies but keep the feta and cashews.
The oven cooking of the beans really helps to avoid the usual mushy texture of black bean burgers.

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>Out for dinner for my mates gf's birthday
>Her pet lamb just died a few days ago
>She's a vegan and doesn't eat any meat or dairy products
>Her mother whispers to us to try order something more subtle with no obvious meat as she's still upset
>Rightio I get it, I was pretty upset too when my 15 year old dog died
>Looking at the menu
>Lamb shank stew, rich with vegetable stock, potatoes, carrots etc.
>$15
>God this sounds fucking good and for a solid price too
>Order it
>We all get our dinner
>Mate and her mother look over at my plate
>Half of the lamb shank is hanging out the top of the bowl
>Her mother shakes her head at me
>I pick the shank up and sit it on my plate so I can pick it out
>"Oh my god why would you get that?" his gf screams
>What? I responded
>I pick the shank up and imitate a sheep "Baaa, baaaaaaaa, baaaaa" while pretending to walk it
>She storms out
>Her mother storms out too
>Mate is holding in his laughter
>Her father is in tears smacking the table with his hand out of laughter

It was pretty good, the stock with the vegetables was to die for. Shank was pretty good too, I left a $10 tip

>>8497521
I'm trying to switch to a vegan diet. Wish me luck.

I have some trouble avoiding diary products, but I'll get the hang of it

>>8502017
Removing dairy can be tricky. I recommend exploring asian recipes that often don't have dairy in them in the first place.

Having some nutritional yeast for cheesy flavor and some kind of neutral flavor flower that doesn't have gluten (rice, oat etc.) in your pantry is a good idea.

>>8502193
Rice flour is like pure sugar. Someone without real gluten issues is better off with whole wheat flour. I usually have none, because the stuff made with is more energy dense than any other whole starchy foods I regularly eat, and it takes so much more time to prepare than just steaming some sweet potatoes or whole grains.

>>8502017
Almond milk isn't nutritionally a good substitute but it tastes the best. Helpful if you need to bake or something.

>>8502220
Almond milk is probably the best milk substitute to use for cooking but I prefer soy milk or cashew milk for cereal.

>>8501880
what a horrible mate you are

There's a reason humans adapted to eat meat and dairy. It's good for you. Lots of calories and nutrition. Much better than plant stuff. It even tastes better.

plants are nutritionally dense but caloric lacking. no thanks vegans.

>>8497521
this image made me hungry

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>>8499893
Greetings to you, too, brother in arms.
>Tfw you'll never know any other veganfaggots in real life and will only ever have any interaction with them somewhat anonymously (because nsafags and other douchenozzles from other unconstitutional "intelligence" agencies can see everything) on the 4chainz
It's a strange feel to be felt, tobeyawnnest, Anon.

Any Minnesota vegans want to have an awkward encounter with me and the bf at Reverie tomorrow?

I don't really buy it because I'm cheap and lazy with my cooking, and for that reason only. Only get it if there's a specific recipe I want to try that requires it. I'll get it at restaurants though.

>>8503047
I feel bad. Coming from commiefornia it's relatively easy to meet other vegans. The only downside is when you meet militant ones I can't stand those people who don't let others order what they want when you go out with them.

Because in order to meet my daily calorie needs I would need to eat truck tons of vegetables. I eat meat and cheese for the calories, vegetables for the vitamins and minerals. Works pretty well.

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>>8503657
Have you ever heard of those little things called seeds and nuts?

I picked cashews because I could snack on those things all day, I think 100g of sunflower seeds would come at almost 600kcal

>>8497521
>- plants are cheap

Only cabbages and bananas are

Non peasant cuts are even more expensive though

>Spend $4
>Buy steak
>Salt
>Cook
>Delicious, full of protein, good caloric value

>Spend $8
>Buy shitload of vegetables
>Have to fry and spice all of them heavily to get any decent taste
>Stomach hurts with how much I have to eat to get the same calories and protein

>>8498460
>but you can get those elsewhere if you aren't a complete retard

Only if you have the discipline to eat from those sources EVERY SINGLE DAY, THREE TIMES A DAY.

Most vegans don't. They fall into habits. They end up succumbing to zinc or b12 or selenium deficiency even after supplementing because they simply aren't getting enough (usually beans, nuts, and whole grains). They fall for memes.

Face it, meat products are a convenient nutritional powerhouse for the majority of people's needs and they always will be.

Moderation > following lifestyles

>>8504415
Nice strawmen. Can you actually attack my argument, or are you just going to rely on shitposting to fill that gap for you?

>>8504395
Where can you get a good cut of meat for $4? That doesn't even get me a piece of top round.

>>8504399
You might be trolling but you got dubs so I'll bite anyway.

So first of all let's point out the obvious that vegans are not the only people who suffer for malnutrition. People on shitty diets suffer from malnutrition, it doesn't really matter if they eat meat and dairy or not.

You can get enough of zinc from beans, nuts and seeds. You can get selenium from brocolli, cabbage and other green vegetables, maybe not in large amounts but if you top it off with a serving of brown rice and maybe some sunflower seeds you'll be fine. I could go on and on with plant sources of zinc and selenium but the point is that it's not difficult to get enough of them in your diet and the sources are varied enough so that you don't have to eat the same thing every day.

That leaves us with B12 and in this case you are right. Meat is the most convenient food source of B12. But since it's such a well known problem most vegans either just buy B12 in pill form (arguably a more convenient source than meat albeit far less tasty) or buy enough fortified foods so that it's not an issue.

There are stupid vegans who think that if their pet rabbit can survive on a diet of lettuce and carrots so can they but let's not pretend that an average omnivore has any better understanding of nutrition and is getting his RDA of every nutrient in his diet. People just like to talk about nutrients because they hope it will shut up preachy vegans.

>>8504379
Most of those are high in omega-6. But it's not at all difficult to eat enough of other stuff that isn't.

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Does anyone else like to eat a pound of plain steamed Brussels sprouts or broccoli? I do that most days.

>>8503047
move to portland, every other person is a fucking vegan

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d-d-d-did someone say m-m-m-eattttttttOOOHHHAAWWWWDDDDDD!~~~~

Honestly, because Im lazy.

I want to get into meal prep because I love cooking, but not after nine and a half hours of dealing with bullshit. If I could ever get my shit together I'd probably do two parts veg to one part starch to one part meat.

>>8504941

>every other person is a fucking vegan

Dumbest post of the year.

There are just as many Fred Flinstone dinosaur sized bbq meat on the bone hipster restaurants as there are strictly vegan places.

Fuck. It seems like every anti-hipster/coastie poster on /ck/ is such a butthurt flyover that their taco bell and corn field tears are literally leaching out of my computer screen.

As annoying as hipster dense cities can be, they are also where all the best and most diverse food comes from. Deal with it. PDX is one of the best and most diverse food cities in the country. Even if you watch Portlandia - which is a parody of it - they still show how absurd the culture clash is. And guess what? 20 minutes East of downtown you can get all your standard fast food on 82nd. And 2 hours outside of downtown in pretty much any direction it's almost backwoods/innawoods drumpf rednecks.

I'll never understand people who get upset by having more options. It's like people who are triggered by craft beer; most places will pull out a coors lite and serve it to you in the bottle if you ask for it. You're not going to impress the girl you took out to that place you heard was supposed to be a panty dropper, but at least it will make you feel a little more comfortable while you spend the next 4 minutes choking down your $4 bottle of dog piss while everyone momentarily feels bad for you and then goes on with their lives.

>>8504965
Because they've got huge inadequacy issues so they're obsessed with drinking, eating, talking, and dressing the "right" way.

The more options there are and the more people do what they like and its much harder to tell what the "right" way to be is. When they have to actually try things, make choices, and do the things they like vs what they're told they lose their fucking minds scared shitless that someone thinks their gay or Jewish

>>8497521
>plants are cheap
Nope, vegetables and fruits are more expensive than meat.
>easier to control my weight
Fatty. Meat contains more than just fat you know.
Eating meat doesn't necessarily mean eating meat everyday.

>>8504989

Once again: complete projection.

>>8497521
I don't eat a lot because I live like a cheap fuck.
I just really like the taste.

>>8504996
You know conversations aren't like pokemon right? you have to actually talk to people.

You can't deny that in more rural and conservative areas the power of tradition has a lot more sway. Theres a right kind of truck (ford or chevy) a right kind of cigarette (marlboro or Paul Malls) a right kind of beer (coors or miller). Theres about two big options for everything and the combinations you chose tell other people in your area exactly where you're from and what you mean.

When you more to more populated areas everyone starts to do their own thing and your options explode. There's no longer an easy right choice and they find it overwhelming and scary so they make fun of anyone with even slightly more complicated taste than them.

They're scared of people with culture because they're A) Scared the things they've been told to love actually aren't that much better than anything else B) Scared their neighbors will mock them

>>8505021

Weird, I was actually just saying almost this exact same thing earlier today as a way to explain (my take) on the mindset of Trump voters.

They basically like that like is simple and that things are a simple way. Their parents did things a certain way, all their friends do things a certain way, their church tells them that the way they do things is right and if they keep doing those things those ways they don't have to worry about any of the big scary questions in life...

And then liberals out on the coast start messing everything up and questioning all their simple beliefs and introducing all these different options, and they find it very, very threatening to their comfortable way of life. Hence the simplicity of "make America great again" - it speaks to everyone who's threatened by the encroachment of any outside influence that's in anyway different than how daddy or grandpappy lived, and they were the best of them.

The only difference is that people in places like Portland aren't A) scared or B) scared. They are overjoyed and happy about all the new possibilities and freedoms. It's called moving forward and not living in the 19th century. The only people scared or bothered by all the options are the people who aren't actually participating or living it, which is generally encompassed by the derivatives "flyover", "redneck", "South".

So, once again: complete projection.

>>8497682

This right here. Also, it's better for the environment and I masturbate in the environment so yeah.

>>8505066

What an epic amount of faggotry in one post

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>>8505132

>>8505066

What's your tumlbr

>>8505066
Hi Hillary how's it going

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Scientists have to create a meat alternative that actually tastes good, then i'll stop eating real meat.
And Soylent has to do the same and make it's product actually taste good.

https://youtu.be/jJrSdKk3YVY

>>8497521

Because it's good and good for you.

>>8505588
Kek. I'm surprised Drumpf's first act as president wasn't destroying Michelle's organic garden and putting up an oil derrick on the spot.

>tfw you eat pretty much everything
I have some problem with cooked white shroom though, I can't handle the texture and taste.

>>8505021
>>8505066

I've been calling them knee jerk voters because all they seem capable of comprehending is the simplest knee jerk solution.

A country does something we don't like? Bomb them. (nevermind that sanctions could be a much better route - they don't understand complex things like sanctions)

A set of people keep bombing the shit out of each other and its scary to americans - ban a whole religion from entering the US - even if you can't tell what religion a person is... even if its literally more likely that an american will be struck by lightning or die from having poor healthcare payment options.

Has a healthcare law in the US been renamed by the republicans to that of the first nigger president? REPEAL it even if it is insuring 20 million more americans and providing for better healthcare options for women and children and doesn't allow for preexisting conditions - even if we don't have a replacement - even if the republicans are against a single payer option

It's all about the knee jerk reaction. These simpletons can't get past the initial gut reaction they have and they get stuck on it... they don't think it through and once they've settled on the knee jerk reaction - any other course of action is too complicated for them to even understand.

It's really sad... because stupid simpletons like that, more than any other type of person, need things like social safety nets and minimum wages and collective bargaining... and better funding for public schools... and they just keep getting republicucked by voting against their own interests...

>>8504991
>Nope, vegetables and fruits are more expensive than meat.

This is only true if you compare the prices of some of the fruits and vegetables that are more exotic to your area with the prices of the absolute shittiest cuts of meat.

A good t-bone costs about $8-$10 per pound. Most common vegetables (potatoes, onions, carrots etc.) go for less than a dollar per pound, Most fruits you can get for get for less than two dollars a pound.

So when you are saying that vegetables and fruits cost more than meat I have to assume that you are either retarded or a troll, probably both.

>Eating meat doesn't necessarily mean eating meat everyday.

If you would actually read my original post you would notice that I didn't go vegan or anything, I just cut down on how much meat I eat.

>>8497521
I've been only eating plants for a few months because I don't trust meat quality in these parts, and I can safely say this : PLANTS SUCK ASS HOLY SHIT.

I like meat.

>>8499078
Maybe he started finding you attractive again?

>>8505601

>destroying Michelle's organic garden

Fuck, I completely forgot about that.

I'm sure it's long gone, but there's so many bigger things happening that it's not even in the news.

On the other hand, I doubt drumpf has even gone outside - ever.

Tried tofu instead of chicken tonight. Never again.

>>8505641

>Has a healthcare law in the US been renamed by the republicans to that of the first nigger president? REPEAL it even if it is insuring 20 million more americans

The most fucked up thing about the left is that they aren't using anywhere near the strong rhetoric needed to match what's happening. If the ACA is actually repealed Ryan and everyone else pushing it through for purely political reasons should be called murderers, and prosecuted as such, because that's the reality of the situation.

>getting republicucked by voting against their own interests

That's always been the case, but before now the candidates at least kind of sort of lied about it; Trump straight up said he's going to fuck everyone over and those same people still voted for him, and are still backing him while he's blatantly lying and going back on all his campaign promises.

>>8505733

and in this post we learn the OP has actually never been shopping....

but I digress, I eat because it tastes good and I like it. The cost isn't a factor for me. The caloric density may eventually become a factor, but it's not for me right now.

Also veggies are not they food, they are what food eats.

>>8505066

I wondered what Bernie and Hillary would do to spread their communist filth now that the election is over.

Don't mind me, I'm just here to make america great again.

The thing that irks me is the left tries to say they're for freedom when really they want to regulate and control every aspect of your life. Healthcare Transportation, environmental regulations, climate change, guns, foreign policy it's all about tax and control, not freedom, not helping people, not saving the world, its about control. The list goes on and on. fuck commies.

>>8506739

Poor bait/10

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>>8504947
>>8505782

Please stop eating meat.

>>8504379
>70/30 ground beef

Pig fucking disgusting. Leave this place

>>8507650
I used is as an example not because it's good but because it's calorie dense.

>tfw you spend less money on eating good cuts of meat like 1-2 times a week and just eating veggies, rice and fermented foods
>now that Orange Creamsicle has signed a gag order for USDA and EPA I'm considering just eating even less meat until I can raise my own chickens

rip beef eating americans

but also
>rip white avocado consumers enjoy your overpriced, tiny californian avocados

The hardest part about being vegan or vegetarian is ruining whatever social life you have.

Gets really old explaining to people and being a bummer when I decline their meat lovers pizza.

White meat every day ( fish & poultry mainly)
Red meats once a week or so

>>8497521
I'm with you OP. I'm still an omnivore and eat meat, but I just don't eat as much. And my diet is based around fresh foods, nothing premade. I still buy things like pickled and fermented foods premade, but I just bought a book on fermented foods, so that will change soon too.
Anyway, I agree. I can afford to eat better cuts of meat and fish now, since I don't eat it every day. I also cure and smoke my own meats like bacon and make my own stocks. And I eat more game than I used to, particularly elk and venison. But I eat mainly vegetables, some fruits, fish or seafood a couple times a week, and meat occasionally. I'm not so much about vegan or vegetarian shit, as much as I am about eating quality and whole foods and being healthy. I also eat very, very little wheat or corn. Not because there's anything wrong with those plants themselves, or that GMO is necessarily bad, but those two crops have been engineered to death with results that aren't great for our bodies. I still buy fresh corn in summer from local farms, though, because that's a treat.

I might start a thread tomorrow about healthy and delicious recipes made from whole foods (some that don't contain meat at all, and some that do).

>>8497521
because it tastes really good and every single time i eat a vegetarian dish, i feel like something is missing, both on the plate and in my stomach after i've eaten

>>8505066
>Their parents did things a certain way

What their parents had was a higher standard of living. People are angry that they and their children can't expect a decent job or for shit jobs to have any security. But it's easier to blame fagbashers for the failure of liberal policies - it doesn't demand introspection.

>>8508619
If enough people in this country had fucking introspection, we wouldn't have Moron - Russia 2.0 and his insane clown posse of juggalos in the White House.

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>>8508629
Even as an SJVVegan, (because simply being vegan probably makes you an SJW in lots of people's eyes) he was the objectively superior candidate, unless you wanted the U.S. to go to war against Russia, and possibly a nuclear one, too.

Going off of their campaign rhetoric alone, at least he didn't want to instigate the only other major nuclear superpower in the world into an all-out conflict like madame secretary obviously did.

All the people I know of who had voted for him ultimately did so because they didn't want WWIII.

You won't find me excusing or defending anything and everything that he says, does, doesn't say, or doesn't do, but you can't deny that he was preferable as president in that way, if no other.

Picture related. Your reaction if/after reading my post.

>>8508767

>All the people I know of who had voted for him ultimately did so because they didn't want WWIII.

They must feel pretty stupid now that he's doing everything possible to make WWIII happen.

>>8508767
This >>8509189
If anyone is going to cause WWIII, it's him. People all over the world are protesting against him. Not just democrats here in the US. No one fucking likes him, and the people who voted for him are idiots who live in the past, and didn't learn from history, and can't wrap their minds around the fact that nothing can stop change and progress, and when people try to stop it, it NEVER works out. ALL life on earth progresses and evolves, including humans.

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>>8509112
>posting a unsexualized image of a cartoon animal makes you a zoophile
Silly (you), Anon.
>saying that you preferred one presidential candidate's stance on an issue over the other's means you love them
Silly (you), Anon.
>just world of warcraft
I don't know what you meant with this, but I've never even played that game.

>>8510004

>that you preferred one presidential candidate's stance on an issue over the other's means you love them

Different anon, but yeah, pretty much anyone who's supporting Trump at this point is a blind fanatic - or just really, really stupid.

>>8510019
Even the mouthbreathers that formed his base are probably going to change their tune when they realize all their food, electronics, appliances, cars, essentially everything has suddenly skyrocketed in price, if it can even be found. But maybe not since the welfare subsidies to big agra will increase which will reduce the price of HFCS, the primary component of the Drumpf supporter diet.

cuz im anemic and also trying to get buff
also when im on my period i turn into this, iron craving monster

>y not beans tho
they get me sick

>>8497638
Carbs are not that prevalent in meat.

>>8510004
>a unsexualized
an*
idiot
post invalid

>>8510058
There is more iron in tofu than there is in meat.